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Speaker 3: They're Jack and Kyler, and we are on the mission

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Speaker 3: to finding the greatest game of all time. On today's episode,

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Speaker 3: we are covering the nineteen ninety eight AFC Divisional round

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Speaker 3: we get into talking being a pro athlete in New York.

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Speaker 1: lived in and we lived in. So back in this

431
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: day you could manage an apartment building and get free

432
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: rent and you just managed. That's my best when did

433
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: and and so now all of a sudden you meet

434
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: these guys and you're going to the games and you

435
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: being a part of their culture and their whole deal. Yeah,

436
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: I pitched BP to him, warmed them up, did the

437
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: whole Shit's crazy story to people all the time. How's

438
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 1: your VP throw? I was fine, he was knocking them

439
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: out the park. I'm sure it was like probably big

440
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: ass little toes that weren't you, uh, skinny but tall, tall,

441
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: skinny kid. Yeah, but you know, VP, normal people, I know,

442
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: but still you COMPI Raddy Johnson, Randy Johnson, Yeah, the

443
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: big unit, the big he's a photographer for the NFL sidelines.

444
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: Now, oh I didn't know that.

445
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeahs and warmed up and warmed up Jack del Rio.

446
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

447
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just say, Oh, what.

448
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: Was Keishawan Johnson like in nineteen ninety nine rookie year, No,

449
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: not ninety nine, rookie year, third year, ninety six six?

450
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: What was I like? He first playoff game?

451
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: I was him? I mean what you mean, mam?

452
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: Ninety nine? Shit, I was living in New York. I

453
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: was coming off well, it depends on what ninety eight

454
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: ninety so, I was coming off my first Pro Bowl,

455
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: my second Pro Bowl. I was coming off my second

456
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Shit, I was toasted the town. Where in

457
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: New York are you living? So I was living in

458
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Long Island because we were in Long Island practicing. So

459
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: I was living in Long Island. But I also had

460
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: a apartment on Park Avenue as well. So hey, when

461
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: you're a number one pick, you know you got two

462
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: home Park Avenue, baby, Yeah, and I had just that's

463
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: just that's just I was kind of married.

464
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: But you know I was married at the time.

465
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: I was kind of married. I hate to say it,

466
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: but you know, probably probably probably loved my kids, great kids,

467
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: the whole deal. Got a good deal out of that.

468
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: Probably should have been married. Probably got married a little

469
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: too early, you.

470
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: Know, twenty two with a lot of money.

471
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, living in New York, probably a little too early.

472
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: Little that's what I was doing.

473
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of pop culture, like you said,

474
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: middle of everything that was going on, the East coast,

475
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: West coast rap wars. I was in, you know, seeing

476
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: people that was out there not to be named, but

477
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: having some fun New York and that time had to

478
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: be really fun. That sceneed had to be crazy sane.

479
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: I love New York, New York's fun city. But see,

480
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: we was good through then, good to the point where

481
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: they have been so bad that everything was a plus

482
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: from there anyway, right, I mean, like you think about it,

483
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: I was one and fifteen as a rookie. Prior to that,

484
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: they were two and fourteen. That's how they got me.

485
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: Then we went one in fifteen, Bill came and the

486
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: next year it was an AFC championship game. So it's

487
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of like same t Yeah, one year, what was

488
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: the difference coaching. Dude, if you if you knew the

489
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: fucking coaches Richie Cole tight I had like it was

490
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: you'd you'd literally jump off a building. I mean it

491
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: was the worst because I was coming from USC and

492
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: so coming from USC toast of the town program Rose B.

493
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Cotton like we was the.

494
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: Ship winning, like we was winning.

495
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: And I go to a program.

496
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: Our head coach was a guy named Richie koe type.

497
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: How he got the job, I have no idea because

498
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: he just got fired from Philadelphia because he was bad.

499
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: You get fired because you're back, just like to do

500
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: that so that they hire a fire coaches literally literally

501
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: and they hires Richie co type. The funniest thing ever, though,

502
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: is I'm just watching the culture of the building. So

503
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: we had practice one day and our head coach, you

504
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: know how, they have a couple of fields, a field

505
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: over here, field over here, over here. He's off to

506
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: one of the far fields while we're practicing. He's got

507
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: the brick cell phone. He's just chilling while we're practicing

508
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: on his phone, smoking his cigar. There's no I don't

509
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: know who the hell he's talking to. But this was

510
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: an everyday occurrence this was something that was going on crazy, right,

511
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: that was crazy. It was the wildest thing I've ever seen.

512
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Man.

513
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I was just like, this ain't my rookie year. Literally,

514
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: we did whatever we wanted to do, when we wanted

515
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: to do it, how we wanted to do it, you

516
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And we wanted fifteen and so

517
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: at that point, for me, I really didn't care at

518
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: one fit. I was like, these dudes gonna get fired anyway.

519
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: So we're actually playing the New England Patriots. What one

520
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: game and it's T and T at night and uh I,

521
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: along with a couple of other veteran players, we go

522
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: to the Foxy Lady in uh Providence Road, isan legendary

523
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: spot Providence right for that establishment, but we're staying there.

524
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: We go there on a on a Saturday, I think

525
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: it was it was a Saturday, because we're playing on

526
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Saturday. We go there and we leave after bedcheck,

527
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: but we walk right out the front fucking door.

528
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

529
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: We don't go the side doors. We don't do anything.

530
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: So now we are sitting at the Foxy Lady. Obviously

531
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: there's no class like Vegas, and we're just being young

532
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: kids that don't know any better or whatever. We go back.

533
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: The bus is getting ready to get ready for the game.

534
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: We get back to the hotel. We done missed. We

535
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: done missed a pregame meal, the early meeting. We done

536
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: missed all that, right, So we go back in. They

537
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: cubed my room. I'm trying to get dressed. They come

538
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: to my room, like what I was like when I

539
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: was near sleep and I ain't y'all you know I overslept?

540
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: You overslept this long? I said, yeah, mass shit, I

541
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: was tired whatever, you know, the whole deal.

542
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: And they're like, no.

543
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: The security said, he's seen y'all leave and da d

544
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: and so it was like a whole They was getting

545
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: ready to send me back. But then I'm like, if

546
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: y'all send me back, and it didn't go the way

547
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: y'all say it, when y'all gonna be in trouble, not me,

548
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: and they and then they said, hey, okay, he can stay, and.

549
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: That I played. I wounded up playing the New England

550
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: game that night.

551
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: I did, okay. It was in ninety six check it

552
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: out that coach Perso's first game. Because I knew they

553
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: would get ready to fire the other coach already knew that.

554
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're about to fire coach Parcels comes in

555
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: day one. Is it just completely different?

556
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

557
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: He fired the dude at the front gate that was

558
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: a security guard named Harry. Harry had been like the

559
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: security guard for like however many years older. Guy Bill

560
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: got rid of him immediately. And so one of our

561
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: linebackers named Bobby Houston was a starting linebacker, started for

562
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: the Jet Tunnel Noo four or five years in a row,

563
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: solid linebacker, like really good. He told him if he

564
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: wasn't at offseason conditioning, he was gonna get rid of him.

565
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Dude didn't come offseason condition never played again in the

566
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: National Football League. Cutting never played again the Nation Football League.

567
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: So those coaches he started, he started the OTAs it

568
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: used to be, getting you had to get forty days

569
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: over like a I want to say maybe a two

570
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: and a half month period of time. You had to

571
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: get forty days in, and it was like you go

572
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: a week, maybe two weeks, you're off, then you come

573
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: back a week, maybe off a week, you know that

574
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: sort of deal. And so when he came, obviously I

575
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: was one of the targets, right, oh, he call was

576
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: one of the targets. So he called my agent, d

577
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: do this that. And so I'm like, well, it's paying

578
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: on the fucking with all that shit, man, you know.

579
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: And so now my agent go, well, he say, if

580
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: you don't come, da da da, I said, man, what

581
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: shit man. I want to be at home my family.

582
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: I can do the same thing here. He goes, you

583
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: tell him it's how he talks. He goes, you tell

584
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: him if he's not here on this such and such

585
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: a date, it'd be the worst mistake he ever made.

586
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: So I go.

587
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: I go, right, So now at this point, I'm probably

588
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: a little overweight. You know, I'm probably a little overweight,

589
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and I'm probably two twenty five ish somewhere in there.

590
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: He goes, I sit down in his room.

591
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: I go in there. I'm in his room.

592
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: He's got a dark room. He's got one little light on.

593
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Like my feel like like you just said. He's sitting

594
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: there and we're talking. He goes, how much did you weigh?

595
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I said, shit, I think I'm about two twenty five ish.

596
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: He goes, what was that guy in the rose bowl?

597
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: So I think I was probably two ten maybe. He goes,

598
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: that's the guy I want, I said, Okay, cool, no problem.

599
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: So now I go home, I come back, go through

600
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: the whole offseason condition and I'm two o eight, right,

601
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: so I'm looking crazy to him. I'm fucking you know.

602
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, that's all I needed.

603
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm made man now for the rest of my life.

604
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: He got me for the rest of my life because

605
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: I did everything he asked me to do. You see

606
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, he asked me to do something

607
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: for him. I did it like that. And now you

608
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: could say, you couldn't say one bad word about me

609
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: in front of him. You're gonna You're gonna catch hell. Yeah,

610
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's how I

611
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: changed like that, and he's a he After my second year,

612
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: after my first year with him in ninety seven, although

613
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm on a rookie contract, he tried to rip my

614
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: contract up, but uh but the management council with the

615
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: NFL wouldn't allow it.

616
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: They we did the deal. We did.

617
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: He was getting ready to make me at that time

618
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: in ninety seven, I hadn't even done shit. I hadn

619
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: fucking sixty five catches up. He was gonna make me

620
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: the highest one of the highest paid receivers in the

621
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: NFL at the time. We did the deal and everything,

622
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: they sent it to management council. The management council didn't

623
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: want to set a president, so they didn't approve it.

624
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: That's how our trust and our loyalty became a bomb

625
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: like it is now.

626
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

627
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you gained parcels trust through cutting your weight. Yeah,

628
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: and then from that day on because you did it.

629
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Even to this day. I just talked to him the

630
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: other day. He goes, what's the number. I said, shit, man,

631
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm probably two thirty five or something.

632
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, I just slipping down a little baby. He goes, yeah,

633
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: you look good, but I don't know if you're two

634
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: thirty five, look like you got walnuts in your cheeks.

635
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm good.

636
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good, Coach, I really, you know.

637
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: He said, well, you're doing good, son. You just keep

638
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Man, I'm proud of you because

639
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: that's my guy.

640
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of you know when I said all the time.

642
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, when you're around a guy for a long time,

643
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: that changes you. Like I was around Belichick. It becomes

644
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: like a fatherly figure even though like we didn't have

645
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: that kind of relationship. See, I had a crazy relationship

646
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: with Parce Hills. I was the teacher's pet. Now I

647
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: was Bill when Belchi when you were there, he was cool,

648
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: but he wasn't the boss.

649
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: He wasn't the boss. But he was the boss.

650
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: But he wasn't the boss. He was the boss on

651
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: one side of the ball. He was a boss on

652
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. And so I used

653
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: to take reps on both the ball, right, so because

654
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: of the scout team, and I would go on defense

655
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: and play safety and do some stuff there. As you notice,

656
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: I got an interception in the games, right, so you know.

657
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: But he was cool, like I went to I used

658
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: to go to the met games with Belichick.

659
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Do chick was cool.

660
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: He was he just was Belichick. It wasn't the boss yet,

661
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't the boss. But the crazy shit is this

662
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: is how I knew, like when y'all really start getting

663
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: down and winning and doing the whole world. Even before

664
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: you that I knew him as a head coach was

665
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: good uncle fucking Nobody say whether he cheated, didn't cheat,

666
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: airb Gate, no gate, whatever, I knew he was good

667
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: based on preparation. So I was part. I was a

668
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: safety of the two minute drill, which on the back end,

669
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: so let's call it the one minute. We would go

670
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: every Friday to Friday. Every Friday after we do our

671
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: walks or whatever, since you know I used to walk through,

672
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I would have to meet with him, just me and him,

673
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: one on one. I'm probably watching cut ups from twenty

674
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: years ago, that offensive coordinator. I don't care that these

675
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: dudes are dead now, you know, but you got me

676
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: literally watching the same thing. Look, it's a three point

677
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: one and here's what they're gonna do. This is like

678
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: six year old video. This isn't four game videos. Six.

679
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Then we get and I'm with him literally probably an

680
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: hour and a half watching four plays because it was

681
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: so attention to detail. But I wind up getting interceptions

682
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: and because of them, so knowing where I should be

683
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: with all that sort of stuff. That's how I knew

684
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: he was good as a coach.

685
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: And what another thing that he does, well, I think

686
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 3: he can take complex shit and simplify it for an athlete.

687
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, he can give you a key. Hey, just

688
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: worry about these three things. Yeah, if you burnt on

689
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: something else, it's my fault. You're not good. What he

690
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: used to tell you said, I don't give a shit.

691
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: What where you go?

692
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: Whatever? If I ever play against you, You're never gonna

693
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: catch a pass. We're gonna double nineteen. That's it. I

694
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: don't care.

695
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Did he get it when he left.

696
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: No, because I only played in New England one time

697
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: in the preseason and I might have had one catch

698
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: and it was whatever, and I got out the game.

699
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: We never got a chance to play against New England.

700
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: And when I was playing, Brian Flores used to say

701
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: that to me when he was our DC. Then he

702
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: went to Miami. He literally doubled me every fucking play

703
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: had I had one catch that whole game. But when

704
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: I did play against the Jets, which is a carryover

705
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: with al Gronim and that Belichick had left, but Al

706
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: grow was still there and that was all part of

707
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: the same team, he won catch one yard. When we

708
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: played in Tampa game four or five of that season,

709
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: I had one catch, one yard. It was a fucking

710
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: shovel pass. Everywhere I went, Brian Cox lined up over me,

711
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn was over the top of him, or or

712
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Coleman was on me Or and Aaron Glen was

713
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: over the top of him with Victor Green over it

714
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: was like, dude, seriously, like come on, let me breathe. Yeah,

715
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I had one catch, one yard. That might not be

716
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: the worst game I ever had, because I had the

717
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: one in Buffalo where I had nine attempts one catch.

718
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: The bass stuck in my face my rookie year because

719
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: it was so cold.

720
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: Dude.

721
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that exact same thing too. And ours

722
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: was a week seventeen game. I wasn't even supposed to

723
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: play because I was a little banged up and we

724
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: were already thinking we were gonna.

725
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: Win this game and clinch the playoff spot and whatever.

726
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: Halfway through the second quarter, like I don't gonna get

727
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: it in Oh fuck, you know, everybody said, getting gloved

728
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: up and shit hit by everyone.

729
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Contact every play guy over here. Guy, it's the same.

730
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: But Parcels was a guy man, He just he just

731
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: got it. He knew what time it was, you know

732
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was the reason I actually a

733
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: real reason, one of the main reasons I retired when

734
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: I did, because I left probably five years on the table.

735
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: But like he told me, you look at the assembly

736
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: line the guys that you came in the league with

737
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: they're getting off and there's new guys like, for instance,

738
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Julian Lleman, that's getting.

739
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Off young ones. What do you what are you doing?

740
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: Are you know one Championshi, You've made tons of months

741
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: like what are you chasing? And that told me says, Okay,

742
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense.

743
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: What am I chasing?

744
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and go into TV. That's why

745
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: I went to ESPN because him and I went to

746
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: ESPN together. Then he left the next year, he left

747
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: and went to Miami to become the president of the team,

748
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and him and I talked about me becoming the general manager,

749
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: but it would be economic suicide based on TV, and

750
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been the first black general manager. So

751
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: it was kind of like I said, man, you know what,

752
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm stay in TV.

753
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm good.

754
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: He wanted me to come back and play and play

755
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: along with Ted Gin Junior and all these dudes and

756
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: also be part of the front office. And I was like,

757
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: I went down, did the visit, did the whole thing,

758
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: and I just said, Nah, you know what, I'm good.

759
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on TV. I think I'm gonna be

760
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: all right. It's it's nice when you wake up after

761
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: work and you're not hurt, you're not sore. Yeah, because

762
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: the older you get, regardless of everyone would anyone wants

763
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: to say, how freak about when you're thirty three years old,

764
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: thirty four years old?

765
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: They hurt?

766
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: But see, I was a I get bored fast, right.

767
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: It ain't even wasn't even the injuries because I've never

768
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: really been injured, right, it was just being bored sitting

769
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: there listening to him talk to him about bunch ride

770
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: two hundred jets smoke.

771
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking hear that. Show what that is?

772
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Same shit.

773
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to look there, and I don't need

774
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: that talk to him, but you're talking to me. I

775
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: gotta sit in the room.

776
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.

777
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Let me just rest.

778
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: That's what Randy Moss used to say. I don't say

779
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: chatty l. These fucking meetings are gonna retire me. It's

780
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 3: like the widest thing when you played in the league

781
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: a long time. There's only so much shit you can learn.

782
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: How much am I gonna see? Oh he's got inside leverage,

783
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: here's what he gonna do. I know what he's gonna do.

784
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: How many times offensive line coach gonna yell inside out,

785
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: inside out? Yep?

786
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: How many times you can hear that inside out hip

787
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: to hip on a fucking double team. I'm not even alignment.

788
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: I know that because I heard it so much.

789
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Hip the hip, hip the hip inside, get up on

790
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the second level, scraping over the top. Make sure you

791
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: stay inside out. Don't let him force you like man,

792
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't look talk to him.

793
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: It's a lot, though, it is, It really is. People

794
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: don't realize that about pro sport, pro football. It's it's

795
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: like you're in school. You only practice two hours. You're

796
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: only outside for two hours. Everything else is fucking preparation.

797
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: There's all the eggs in one basket. You only have

798
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: seventeen games. So these coaches, they're fucking crazy and they

799
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: prepare for everything.

800
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: I used to tell Bill because we we lit. Y'all

801
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: may have did it in uh New England. I don't know,

802
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: but we would practice on fucking Christmas or practice on Thanksgiving.

803
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: It we wouldn't have meetings after that was the nice thing.

804
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: But dude, we want to go home. We have families.

805
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Just because you don't want to tell us said, just

806
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be home with your wife.

807
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: Don't mean I don't want to be home with my family.

808
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Like seriously, what does say to you, Well, you just

809
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: worry about Ty lowd you know some shit like that.

810
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: You know something like do you just worry about Ty Law?

811
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: You got the tie law flew this week. I know

812
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: because at one time I did play this New Dan.

813
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: I had like one hundred and it's probably like one

814
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: hundred and four hundred and five was fucked up. I

815
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: was toe up and uh, you know the media blah

816
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: blah blah. He shining in practice, he got the tie

817
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: law flew.

818
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: The fuck I'm getting me to die talking about.

819
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: How is thy line playing against him? He's physical?

820
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Huh, he was physical, but I was.

821
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: A physical receiver. You're a big It was great. New

822
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: England fans hated me because I didn't do nothing to

823
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: talk shit and I just murdered New England. I used

824
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: to murder them. That was the worst thing they could

825
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: ever seen coming through the building. No real talk google it.

826
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: Ty was like one of my one of my good

827
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: friends that probably shouldn't have been a good friend being

828
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: an opponent. So one time I run a jab one

829
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: forty four x post play action boom. So I sell

830
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the all the out yeah to back to the post

831
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: the ball and he hits me. He tackles me, but

832
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: he helps me up in the fucking new ingid you know,

833
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: fucking I said something about you plug and playing your

834
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: dad and everybody went crazy's going on the fuck? I

835
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. I just said, these a nice receiver,

836
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: the best one that they've had, plug and play. But anyway,

837
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: the whole whatever, that radio station is up there. They

838
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: went crazy. So yeah, ty Law helps me and the

839
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: people went crazy, Oh, he's kicking your ass. And because

840
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: we beat him in whatever, he's like, he's kicking your

841
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: ass and you're helping him up off the fucking ground.

842
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: This is not you know, New England football.

843
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Like, dude, what are you talking about?

844
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: Like I helped him up. He's a friend of mine.

845
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Were playing in Pro Bowls together. We were Pro Bowl

846
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: MVPs together, like stop. But it's just a crazy thing.

847
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: But he was real, you know, he was physical and

848
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: good though he was a good He was one of

849
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: the better. Obviously he's a Hall of Famer, but he

850
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: was one of different when y'all played than when we

851
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: played even though you called us on the back end,

852
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: tail end of our careers. The cornerbacks, in my opinion,

853
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: were way better when I was playing than they are

854
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: like now, because it was true travel man the man corners. Yeah,

855
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: it was just nowadays it's zone. He's got one guy

856
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: who's really good at the corner, but he's got a

857
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: and you got three receives. I got to pick a receiver,

858
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: where then it was three corners. It was I mean

859
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: three receivers. It was three corners that could just go

860
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: no matter what I mean, you know what I'm saying. No,

861
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I I agree a little bit with that. There was

862
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: a lot more man.

863
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: It's way more man.

864
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: So like there's only in my generation. The only really

865
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: guy that did it was Reeves probably did it. Revs

866
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: is the only guy that would follow that travel. Yeah,

867
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: he would followed guys because see you called tie at

868
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: the end, but that was you know, that's old tie.

869
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, baby was older. He

870
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: was older.

871
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the game also changed because the rules won two,

872
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: A lot of these people went to this we call

873
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: it the ceat six, which is like a match zone

874
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: where these corners they had like the Sherman, the Sherman defense, Yeah,

875
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: where they had these long ass corners where they play

876
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: off and they play with their eyes in the back

877
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: of the can break because they have helper and they

878
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: really but it's it's like a man match. Yeah, so

879
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: the game kind of changed. You know, no one's hitting

880
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: anyone anymore.

881
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: It's it's I would.

882
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Agree with Tyde with Field though, yeah, Chap with all

883
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: them dudes with Field. But then back in them days though,

884
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: and I hate to say back in the day because

885
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's like fifty five years ago, but

886
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I remember we're playing Kansas City. Kansas City was one

887
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: of my worst outputs to uh. They got three corners.

888
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: They had this guy named Dale Carter who was could

889
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: have been the best corner ever in the history, but

890
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: he just was dell. Uh. And then they had James

891
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: Hasty's Hastys was as big as me. And they had

892
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: a guy named Mighty Mouse that was probably half your size.

893
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: The physical quick, No, he just was quick. So when

894
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I broke the huddle, so all week long, we're game

895
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: planning for me to get deal Carter because Dale Carter

896
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: was long. He was six' two and he was you,

897
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: know a freaking nature and athletic and the whole. Deal

898
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: all week, long were thinking we getting Del. Carter so

899
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: we go To Kansas. City we break the huddle first

900
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: AND i looked And hastys is going with my, fuck

901
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: let's see now the fuck it's just getting ready to

902
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: be ugly because he was so big and, strong physical and.

903
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: Good he was.

904
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Good Brandon, brown it was so. GOOD i was over,

905
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: there chicken, fight. MAN i got so frustrated in the

906
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: game THAT i called. IT i caused a pick. Six

907
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: the damn the cost us the game BECAUSE i couldn't get.

908
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: OPEN i just.

909
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: Could it was.

910
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: RAINING i couldn't get. Open so we in a three

911
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: BY i think it was. It it was an empty empty.

912
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Left that's, right it was empty left seventy four shout

913
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: tosser a seventy five. YEARS i was in the three by.

914
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: TWO i was the middle. Guy so we went one.

915
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: TWO i was the middle. GUY i don't remember who's

916
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: on the out out that chills versus, Two SO i

917
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: BUT i, did you're in the. Shout, No i'm on

918
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: The tosster's, slant so slant boom. Shout so Now corebet

919
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: was the Was corbett the third guy a three slot

920
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: running the ten yard shout. Route he was over there

921
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: with us on. It he was on the he was

922
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: on the slat. Side but WHAT i did IS i

923
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: crossed face in front instead of, going, no you went.

924
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: BEHIND i went behind instead of in, front always go in.

925
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: FRONT i went. Behind because that's the first time and

926
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: the last time that's ever. Happened the first time and

927
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: the last. Time vine tests already dark custom pick six

928
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: going the other. Way we damned to lose the, game

929
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: BUT i was SO i couldn't get. OPEN i fucking go.

930
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Behind Donnie edward was, jumped falls off Of, couebette and

931
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: THEN i fell off Of. Corbett picked six the other,

932
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Way and when it, HAPPENED i just was, like holy,

933
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: FUCK i just lost the. Game dog cuss me.

934
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: Out you, know you fucked, up.

935
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: DUDE i never did it, again never had that issue.

936
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: Again but It's football's, fun you. Know did you always

937
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: remember your first dog custs on the tosser and that

938
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: getting across the face BECAUSE i NEVER i was always

939
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: the outside. Guy the last guy was the third. Guy,

940
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: well they're probably trying to get, you and then we're

941
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: trying your. Decors many Times i've been. Decoyed so, yeah

942
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: because if you're crossing face and trying to open up

943
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: that every cross cross behind AND i FUCKING i don't

944
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: know what made me go.

945
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: Behind you know how many times we? RAN i, mean

946
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: it's so funny to hear shout. Tosster that's our offense.

947
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Too it's coming from seventy five shot tosser empty, right,

948
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: uh semis eighty, Two semi eighty, Three semi called it

949
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: seam thirty, five ride thirty, five base thirty, four base

950
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: thirty four and then one thirty four would be the

951
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: action one thirty four protect max protect one thirty four x.

952
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: Curl you'd have a two man route concept maybe one

953
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: if it's the same offense two act or double TIGHT.

954
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: X we used called number New.

955
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: York it was like our thirteen personnel were to be

956
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: only be one receiver everyone Else New york. Personnel, Yeah New,

957
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: york and that.

958
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Would be like a key.

959
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: Shot that was what was what was the other? One?

960
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Was New york was?

961
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: One but what was the one with THE?

962
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Z New york was The New york was the ex and,

963
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: uh it was the other one was gonna kill. Me

964
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: it was the other one though it was the same.

965
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Thing it, was was? It but it was a z

966
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: tight z we used to call. It it might have

967
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: been too TIGHT. Z BUT i did. BOTH i did, both.

968
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: YEA i was basically, YEAH i was the big. Dude

969
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: SO i had to put the hand in the, ground

970
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: come in like a fake tied.

971
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: IN i Caught.

972
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: TEDDY i Called Teddy bruski one, time Old ship right

973
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: at the goal, line down on the, ground slammed. Down

974
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: he fucking shot pop out touchdown freebie against The. Patriots thank,

975
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: you old, ship Old. Ship and SO i go to

976
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: the stands AND i give the throat. Slash they outlawed

977
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: that BECAUSE i gave the throat. Slash but this was

978
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: at the, time but that probably wasn't. GOOD i did

979
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: to Do why what was going? ON i think we

980
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: were coming off we were coming out of the whole OLD. J,

981
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: simmons the whole.

982
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Deal, Yeah So.

983
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: Brett farv had did it that same. Week farv did

984
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: it that same, week AND i did it that same.

985
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Week in the league was, like no more throw slashes, Please,

986
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: yeah too many throw Fashion we'll cut it. Man nineteen ninety,

987
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: Nine Ricky williams of The Heisman, trophy what a. Monster

988
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: he was should have gone TO sc though he's From San. Diego,

989
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: yeah that's. True he almost, came BUT i Guess texas paid.

990
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: MORE i heard he took a pay cut to get

991
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: to the league for his first few. Years probably you

992
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: KNOW TD. Mvp he was a monster for that like

993
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: a six year. Span it was Just Treel. Davis we

994
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: played against them THE Afc championship. Game Randy moss Was

995
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: rookie of The year this. Year what a STUD i

996
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: played With randon he, Was he was a. Monster what

997
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: do you think Of randy? Freak Freak Just i've never

998
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: seen somebody so tall be able to run so fluid. Fluid,

999
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: yeah it doesn't even look like he's.

1000
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: Running ALMOST sc.

1001
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Two, well, yeah that. Close he went to the he

1002
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: had a crazy. Story, yeah but he but when he

1003
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: got bounced out of Either Florida state or know the,

1004
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: name he was gonna come TO. Sc BUT i don't

1005
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: THINK i think we just said, NAH i never mind

1006
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: because he was gonna. Come it played with, me but

1007
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: they were just, LIKE i think it was the whole

1008
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even that, horrible, Right it's just not to,

1009
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: me it's Not it's nothing Near, okay you get into a.

1010
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: Fight, YEAH i mean it's not that big of a.

1011
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Deal n Il are you staying all and if you

1012
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: were in nil, Life, yeah are you staying at sc all?

1013
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Year you going to Heightst.

1014
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: Bidder i'm staying at sea all? Year all.

1015
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: Clear the reason is is because we could, pay AND i.

1016
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: Wouldn't i'm a loyal. Person i'm not a bouncing around.

1017
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Guy like you know What i'm, Saying, Like i'm not

1018
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: gonna leave just because somebody offering, me you, know four

1019
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: million versus two and a. Half i'm not gonna jump

1020
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: and run Because i'm a loyal. Guy, PLUS i value.

1021
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: EDUCATION usc is. Educator we run the state Of. California

1022
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: luma lums were all over the so you.

1023
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: Know What i'm.

1024
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: Saying so it's a little bit different, dynamic and they

1025
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: we we will, pay but it would have been very.

1026
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: EXPENSIVE i probably would have been we were, TALKING i

1027
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: was having this conversation not too long. AGO i probably

1028
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: was based on with all these arch mannings and ship like,

1029
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: that GETTING i probably was a.

1030
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: Ten million dollar guy a.

1031
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: Year.

1032
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah IF i.

1033
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Had to equate that what number? Receiver you, know it's

1034
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: a different got a certain Look i'm from L. A

1035
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: you know What i'm, saying kind of got a nice

1036
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: look to me and SH i probably would HAVE i

1037
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: would BECAUSE i bawled out my sophomore year at. College

1038
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: but you went to a smaller, school SO i would

1039
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: have went To. Oregon that's What i'm. Saying you would have,

1040
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: left you'd have. LAUGHED i would have went to the pack.

1041
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: Town of, course would have. Left but it will be

1042
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: smart for you to, leave leave in usc to go?

1043
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Where well where AM i going To? Alabama going to

1044
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: all of Fuck? Obama me going To? Alabama brother from

1045
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: The west. Coast hell, no the bag was way. Bigger

1046
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be. Much oh that's Your that's that's.

1047
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: True we can pay what we want to pay when

1048
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: we want to pay, It so who we want to pay?

1049
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: It two IN I l wasn't IN I. L BUT

1050
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: i still got WHAT i needed even though it wasn't

1051
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: INN I. L you see What i'm, saying wing.

1052
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Wing and then ALSO i mean as, see, hey they

1053
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: have some of the.

1054
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: Most they have like the most, heismans, RIGHT i think

1055
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: we do by like one by, one like Maybe Ohio

1056
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: state or. Something what's The mount rushmore OF usc football. Players,

1057
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: man it's it'd be tough to build one because we

1058
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: so deep. Deep, yeah we don't even Celebrate All american

1059
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: status unless your number, one unless you're first team and

1060
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: you have to be Like Walter camp or ap or

1061
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: one of those. Type it can't be Like Julian Elleman's

1062
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: All american First team he. Voted they wouldn't even did

1063
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: give you a plaque because we got too many for,

1064
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: years like we don't even Have we don't even retire

1065
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: jerseys unless you win The.

1066
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: Heisman it's a real estate problem.

1067
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: There it's just it's crazy, Though like you couldn't be

1068
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: When Tom brady And Julia adam Is All American. Team,

1069
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: okay that's, cool but they're not going to honor you for.

1070
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: That you.

1071
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Know that's just how The that's how university. Is it's

1072
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: just a weird. Deal off the top top four right, now,

1073
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: though who do you think immediately you can put yourself

1074
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: In I'm.

1075
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm ian automatically, though that's.

1076
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: Easy got Unanimous all pac twelve one hundred anniversary, team

1077
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: like only dude to get. It only only one out of,

1078
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: everybody only one out of all the great. Players you're

1079
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: the top three that are sitting up on That man

1080
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: mountain with. You but, no, Boss i'm, serious it's hard

1081
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: because of the history and the day there Who Mark's,

1082
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: Allen that's.

1083
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: What i'm just. HARD i just gonna go by era because.

1084
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Think about this, Though, Julian Ronnie, Lot, okay so let's just,

1085
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: say let's just Say Ronnie, Lott anthony Munjos Lin, Swan Marcus,

1086
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: allen what About Troy? Polamolo what About Keshawn? Johnson what

1087
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: About Carson? Palmer what about you, know, like it's just, Hard,

1088
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: reggie but like it's can't even you could do. IT

1089
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: i think we do it more by position than we

1090
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: do by The mount. Rushmot we do ours more by

1091
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: position in the theme. Park there's No mount rushmore sighting for.

1092
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: Us see They so when you start saying best running,

1093
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: back now that's. Easier Marcus, allen what About Reggie? Bush,

1094
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Okay Reggie bush?

1095
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: Too you know you Just Charles.

1096
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: White you, know it's just, like but then when you

1097
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: get the receivers hands, down we all know who that.

1098
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Is so it didn't even.

1099
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: Question it's mus not even close him. Close let's go not.

1100
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Close i'm you, Know i'm an air. Game but still not.

1101
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Close it's not it's not. Close so let's jump into this, Game.

1102
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Jackie let's do. It let's do.

1103
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: It should hit These.

1104
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Jags first hit these These jags eleven and five and.

1105
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 4: Went they're fourth year in. Existence they came in in

1106
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 4: ninety five with The. PANTHERS i remember that as an expansion.

1107
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: Team Tom coughlin Shawl uh from the beginning to NOW

1108
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: gm as well.

1109
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: Drafted Fred taylor ninth over all this, year Rookie. Fred

1110
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: this year he had played With Freddy Beast REGGIE. B.

1111
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 4: Barlow this was back when they were in THE Afc

1112
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 4: Central for all you conference heads out, there uh when

1113
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: six and two individual games started the year hot five

1114
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 4: and zero and just leading up to, this they had

1115
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 4: quite a bit of, success made the playoffs in their

1116
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: first two out of their first three, seasons and they

1117
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: were in THE Afc championship in ninety.

1118
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Six which Is keenan mccardill letting the team sixty four,

1119
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: CATCHES i mean receive, it but oh, no it's just,

1120
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: okay you just got sixty four. SEPTIONSS i thought that

1121
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: was the. Leaders now they just got two, Leaders jimmy and.

1122
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Him Well, jimmy he Had, jimmy he had eleven hundred,

1123
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: yards eight. Tugs we gotta put some show on these.

1124
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Guys mark crazy, though seventy eight catches and sixty four

1125
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: catches back, then be like one hundred and twenty five. Today, yeah, crazy,

1126
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: right you know it's crazy that what what Did Fred

1127
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: taylor didn't really fred too. Much freda was a. Rookie,

1128
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: yeah this is rookie. Year, yeah everybody for twelve hundred. Yards,

1129
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean he had a hell of a rookie.

1130
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: Year but you could. Tell probably In belichick's meeting he

1131
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: said Of, eland this guy beat.

1132
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: Us, yeah, Sure i'm. Sure i'm sure he.

1133
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: Did what do you think about when you think of

1134
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: This jaguars?

1135
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: Team they was. GOOD i mean they were they were right.

1136
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: There he just could never get over the hump when

1137
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: you look at the. SECONDARY i Remember Aaron beasley came

1138
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: out with me From, Virginia West. Virginia, Uh Donovan darius

1139
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: With Syracuse Donovan Darius damn that broke my sternum on

1140
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: a on a on a turkey hole shot on the

1141
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: on the, right on the right, side line out up

1142
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: and he hit Me bawn and, AGAIN i still feel

1143
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: it to this. DAY i held onto the, ball you.

1144
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: Know and it's so.

1145
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Funny his, DAUGHTER i believe his daughter what did was

1146
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: his daughter works At. Fox she had put him on

1147
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: the phone on me a couple of months. Ago, yeah

1148
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: and he we were talking about that hit and then

1149
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: he hit me late on the reverse for the. Touchdown oh,

1150
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: yeah you were like two steps into the intil he

1151
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: hit me. Late but whatever this and you're a Tall

1152
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: yeah he's been. Down, Yeah Dion, figures but he got

1153
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: the worst on the turkey hole. Shot he the one

1154
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: who got the worst sometimes because you're a big ass moe.

1155
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Fucker AND i knew how to absorb the. Hit Dion.

1156
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: FIGURES i. REMEMBER i remember all these, dudes LIKE i

1157
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: played With Tony biselli in. College, Tony butceelli taught me

1158
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: how to. Block what did he, Say just drive my

1159
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: feet locking in and just drive my feet. DUMP i

1160
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: just did a VOICE myil episode before, this AND i,

1161
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: said you don't block with your, hands you block with your.

1162
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: Feet.

1163
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's hand battled to get in. Position AND

1164
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: i Tell Mark brunell all the, TIME i picked you be.

1165
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: Quiet that's. True Reggie bowler is one of my good.

1166
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: Friends now that you did Did parcells say anything About

1167
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: coughlin when you remember preparing about this because he just

1168
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: because they were all under. Him, yeah he coached with,

1169
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: him and here's what they're gonna. Do And Chris palmer

1170
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: is a friend of, mine and you know.

1171
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: He gave it a whole.

1172
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: Spiel, YEAH i can see. It let's break down These.

1173
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Jets get into these twelve and Four New york Four. Jets,

1174
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: man it's weird to, say, right that's.

1175
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: Crazy twelve and.

1176
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: FOUR i did Get we got our ass beat by

1177
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: The jets in the. Playoffs, oh San, Chito, yeah San,

1178
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: chito go keep. Going, no, man these guys.

1179
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: WERE Afc east. Champs this Was Bill parcell's second. Season

1180
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: turn that thing around. Quick you remember two years before

1181
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: This keishawn's rick year one in. FIFTEEN i mean brutal.

1182
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Stuff that's a.

1183
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: Turnaround brought In Curtis martin in the, offseason Signed vinnie Test.

1184
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: Verty he'd been let go By BALTIMORE U seven regular

1185
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 4: season wins over eventual playoff, teams which is pretty, Cool,

1186
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: like you beat some good competition this.

1187
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: Year, uh some dudes on this. Team this was a

1188
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: team with some.

1189
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: Dudes you Got Wayne, crebbett you Got Keisha, On Kyle,

1190
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 4: brady the tight, End Vinnie, Testa, VERDI i, Mean Pepper.

1191
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: Johnson, lewis and then the star.

1192
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: Started otis my Man, smith you got like a star

1193
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: started coaching staff as you, know you Got Romeo, crenell

1194
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: you Got Charlie, weiss you Got Bill, belichick he got

1195
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: Al groho he talked about. Earlier the big tune is

1196
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: your head coach hadn't been to hadn't won a playoff

1197
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: game in twelve, years hadn't made the playoffs in Nine

1198
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: so this was.

1199
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: Big, no this was this was a big. Deal this

1200
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: is a big.

1201
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: Game we'll be right back after this quick. Break how

1202
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: Was Aaron glenn as a? Teammate do you know he's

1203
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a head? Coach current head coach on the.

1204
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: TEAM i didn't know he would be a head coach

1205
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: until later on in his coaching. Career great, TEAMMATE i,

1206
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: mean it's like one of my. Boys but didn't not

1207
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: really looked at. HIM i thought maybe oldest would have

1208
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: been a head, Coach Jerome henderson would have been a head,

1209
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: coach those type of dudes who've been head, coaches NOT.

1210
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: AG i didn't THINK ag was gonna be a head. Coach,

1211
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: HEY i just didn't SEE i just did see him.

1212
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Coaching he just. Didn't he never used. To he never

1213
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: used to. COACH i Knew Brian cox would be a

1214
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: coach because he was always fucking, coaching especially like.

1215
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: Me he would coach me and to go cuts out the.

1216
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: Coaches he would literally be, like not tell, them, motherfucker

1217
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: to get your ball man, on fucking you, know key,

1218
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: man tell them.

1219
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Off and he was cussing the coaches out. Too it was.

1220
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: It this was, like out of all the teams THAT

1221
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: i played, on this was was WHERE i had my most.

1222
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: Fun was this this unit with these guys you're young

1223
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: girls show you're still, yeah but just the, personalities like the,

1224
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: camaraderie a lot of, dogs a lot of, dolls but

1225
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: there was a there was a there was literally like

1226
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: to work hard if you're with Personal, yeah this was

1227
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: A this was a serious, camaraderie team building type. Situation

1228
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: where other teams THAT i played, on it was it was,

1229
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: clickish but all of us would hang, together whether it Was,

1230
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: richie whether it Was Ray, lucas whether it was Even,

1231
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: quebec even even uh Dietrich. Ward Obviously Chris Vick Marcus,

1232
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: Coleman uh you, know uh Mole. FAERRY i just was

1233
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: with Ferri er not too long. Ago like we all

1234
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: would fucking go after the, games all go to the

1235
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: clubs and party and it was just a it was it.

1236
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: Was it was a just a crazy, thing. Man but

1237
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: the interesting thing Is bill would have me followed by,

1238
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: Security like the security team would follow me WHEREVER i.

1239
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Go AND i come back the next day and be,

1240
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: like how was that chicken prom? Palm how did that?

1241
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: Go fucking?

1242
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: Fuck so one DAY i was In New, jersey And

1243
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: New jersey from our practice, facilities probably in, traffic was

1244
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: probably three hour drive or whatever the case. Is SO

1245
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: i was messing with a gal at this time that

1246
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Was she's laughing THAT i probably.

1247
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: Wasn't.

1248
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: MARRIED i probably shouldn't have been messing with let's just

1249
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: say that probably should should have waited a little bit

1250
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: longer to deal with. That SO i get back to the.

1251
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: Facility he, goes what were you doing In? Jersey that's

1252
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: the way he, Talked what were you doing In? Jersey

1253
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: what do you?

1254
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Mean what WAS i? DOING i wasn't In.

1255
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: Jersey don't you lie to?

1256
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: ME i, said what you're talking.

1257
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: About, bill don't you drive a green navigated one of those.

1258
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: TRUCKS i, said, YEAH i. Drive he, says, well you

1259
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: stupid or you? Dumb said what the? FUCK i, said,

1260
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: coach what are you talking? About you were over That broad's.

1261
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: House i'm, Like, bill are you talking? About are you?

1262
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Stupid she's not even officially divorced. Yet i'm, like what the?

1263
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: Fuck you should port your car in the? Garage you

1264
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: got your parked. OUTSIDE i ain't know everything you this

1265
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Is i'm telling you the, Truth. Jules And i'm, like

1266
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: this motherfucker Really and So i'm, like SO i was

1267
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: mad basically the whole. Week SO i wouldn't even talk to. Him,

1268
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: SEE i played games with. HIM i literally like some

1269
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: of my ex, teammates if you ever get a chance.

1270
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: TO i used to play games with the. Coaches you,

1271
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: know coaches try to act you have a bad, game

1272
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: and they try to act like they wan't to talk to.

1273
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: You they you, know they don't say but two. Words

1274
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: that's HOW i used to treat. Them i'd go warm,

1275
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: up put my cliques. ON i won't talk to. HIM

1276
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: i go stand over, there stretched by. Myself what's wrong

1277
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: with him?

1278
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 2: Today nothing?

1279
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: Wrong, Man i'm good AND i walk. Away they try

1280
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: to bring ME i want to tell you something about this.

1281
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: ROUTE i, go, okay, cool, Go BUT i freeze them

1282
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: out like they would do. Us and so that whole

1283
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: WEEK i didn't say a word to him at. All

1284
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: and you can tell he knew. That he made me

1285
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: mad by Sending Steve, yarnell which was our security, guy

1286
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: sent some of their investigators to follow. Me they used

1287
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: to follow literally follow us all In New York city and.

1288
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: Everything but that's WHY i love.

1289
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: You though it, was it was some of the.

1290
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: Best it was some of the best those, times some

1291
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: of the. Best, man your a big investment. Dog, no

1292
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: but you intment you don't need to. Have i'm. NOT i.

1293
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: Don't first of, ALL i don't do. DRUGS i. BARELY

1294
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: i don't even THINK i was drinking at this. Time

1295
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: it's not about, that.

1296
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: Though you, know what if what if NO i did?

1297
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: It what if someone comes IN i, KNOW i get.

1298
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: IT i probably shouldn't be the green.

1299
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: Navigator, PROBABLY i don't. Know probably some parcels got two

1300
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: dudes out, there gotting them for.

1301
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: You.

1302
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: No, True, no it's, true it's. True it's. True it's.

1303
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: True i'm gonna say it's, true probably shouldn't have done,

1304
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: that but what are you gonna, say you? Young it

1305
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: was one of the. Things it's, like, oh what Was

1306
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Wayne kerbett like like a? Teammate wayne was cool. Man

1307
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: he was just a normal guy who worked his little tail, off,

1308
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: overachiever deserves literally everything that he. Got and we we

1309
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: played together and we it's a crazy thing because we

1310
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: used to go, out we, drove we went To Atlantic

1311
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: city in the limousine. Together and this was after my,

1312
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: Book this is like in ninety, eight and, shit.

1313
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: It just he.

1314
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: Was he was cool, man hard, worker you. Know he

1315
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: was a hard, working little little son of a. GUN

1316
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: i call him the original uh they call him slot.

1317
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: Father what's the fucking guy that played In New? England

1318
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Wes Wes. Welker, yeah he the Original Wes welker. Type

1319
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: he was a good little, dude, scrappy fight his ass,

1320
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: off you. Know and the thing with me and him

1321
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: is the media In New York West coast Versus east,

1322
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: coast white versus, black big personality versus little little. Hometown he,

1323
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: wrote they took that and ran with it and they created.

1324
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: IT i remember, That, yeah they created BECAUSE i but

1325
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: in all, FAIRNESS i probably shouldn't have called him a

1326
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: mascot in my, book but but it.

1327
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: WASN'T i didn't look at it as a as a

1328
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: Disc that's not WHAT i looked at.

1329
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: It they looked at like he's. Done he the path

1330
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: Of like he's the flag. Carrier he's the guy, that

1331
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: no matter what goes, wrong he's a. Jet he's a fucking,

1332
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: jet through and. Through that's the WAY i looked at.

1333
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: Carrier but they in the media didn't look at it that.

1334
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: Way they looked at it his Brash West coast flip

1335
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: flop Wearing bord shork t. Shirt guy comes in driving

1336
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: ferrari our guy who works, hard carries a lunch pail

1337
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: From New. JERSEY i dare, You that's the way they

1338
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: looked at, it you. KNOW i was, like WHATEVER i

1339
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: saw That cribs episode of way In. Corbett he has

1340
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: some cars now crib a couple and. Vets he had a.

1341
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: Bent but that was the.

1342
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: Difference so that right there is WHY i became the

1343
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: number one overall. Pick it wasn't just my football. Skills

1344
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: it was everything THAT i brought to the. Organization WHEN

1345
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: i first got to The, jets them, jokers was wearing

1346
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: jeans and boots and driving. Trucks all of a, SUDDEN i,

1347
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: Come i'm suited and. BOOTED i got the ear, RINGS

1348
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: i got the Diamond. Rolexis i'm living a certain. Life

1349
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Driving ferraris In New York, city it was just a

1350
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Different you see What i'm.

1351
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: Saying you know what the kids call?

1352
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: That, now what's that? Swag and they say you Got? Aura,

1353
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: WELL i had a plus swag right Plus, riz you

1354
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: Know riz. Baby and so all of a, sudden that,

1355
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: team all those dudes. Change they start Driving, Ferraris, Porschees,

1356
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: Mercedes being's. Trucks they just started doing all that. SHIT

1357
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: i mean they were also one in, fifteen two and.

1358
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Fourteen when you go eight and eight and you start

1359
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: making the, Playoffs jungers gonna put. Sate you never had

1360
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: this experience to be able to go into a city

1361
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: and you get ready to go in the restaurant and

1362
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: they close the window on. You, no it's closed and

1363
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: open because you. Suck they wouldn't even let you win

1364
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: In New. York i've had that experience.

1365
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: Before it's.

1366
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Brutal we, Go we're, like, oh how you? Go they're,

1367
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: like oh, no we. Closed we it's like couple being

1368
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: you serious right? NOW i just see all lady of five.

1369
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 1: People it's nine. O'clock, men It's New York. City because

1370
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even let a scene because we were so

1371
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: bad they didn't want our. Business, wow we were bad

1372
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: though at one, fifteen you're not. Here, no we're good.

1373
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: There let's jump into. It let's see JACK. U let's

1374
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: break this game. Down so The jets were coming in this.

1375
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Thing the two seed got to buy finished year in

1376
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: a six game win. Streak they were, hot The jags new,

1377
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: team but up and coming balling couldn't quite get over that.

1378
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: Hump As keishawan said, earlier first time they won their,

1379
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 4: division they were the three seed coming off a wild card,

1380
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: round went over The patriots twenty five to. Ten faltered

1381
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 4: a little bit down the, stretch lost two of their

1382
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: last three in the regular.

1383
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: Season oh and this Was Bill parcells's first.

1384
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: Game As jets head coach in the playoffs And kishon's

1385
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: first playoff.

1386
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: Game, SEE i didn't even know what the two seed

1387
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: meant back because so. Young, YEAH i didn't even the

1388
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: magnitude of getting the two. Seed, really it's, like, oh

1389
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: we're in the, playoffs he got the two. Seed, okay

1390
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: we got a home. GAME i didn't really ain't a

1391
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: buye yeah a. BYE i really didn't die later on

1392
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: in my, career how important that ship. Was, well when you're,

1393
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: older you need it more. Too, yeah because you need

1394
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: the health you know you, need you need that extra.

1395
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Time now what do you doing bye week with with?

1396
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: Parcels did you give you a tough bye? Week or

1397
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: you guys full blue and white game like we used

1398
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: to do full. Scrimmage now we didn't, scrimmage but we

1399
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 1: would have practice and a whole deal and in pads

1400
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: and run it back and do you know started back

1401
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: from the. Top you fucked? Up blah blah, blah same.

1402
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: Thing two days would be really. Hard give you a

1403
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: few days off then come. Back so we would we

1404
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: would try to figure out when we actually had off,

1405
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 1: EVERYONE i, mean but they wouldn't tell me never never.

1406
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: Never sneaky coaching Because bill used to do that ship with.

1407
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: Us BUT i Had But i've always had. Moles mold

1408
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: you gotta Have i've always had a. Mold you always

1409
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: have a mole always BECAUSE i was always cool to,

1410
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: Everybody like, Right i'm taking care of, DUDES i always got.

1411
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: It so they you, know, Like i'm not supposed to say,

1412
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: this BUT i think you guys are off On friday back,

1413
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: month you know that type of, thing and who's who's

1414
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: more like some of the coaching staff's your, staff but

1415
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: they could be a G. A i could be an assistant.

1416
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: COACH i was.

1417
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: CLOSE i was close With Todd, hayley my receiver coachure

1418
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: that's like my. Brother And bill knew, that so he

1419
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't even. Tell he wouldn't Tell todd certain ship trying

1420
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: to find out who the rast it's one. Time, UH

1421
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: i don't know If New england they ever did this.

1422
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: Before so we're actually getting ready to Play New. England

1423
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: this is the The Foxy lady. Game this is no

1424
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: this is this is Either Tuna bowl one Or Tuna bowl.

1425
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Two, Okay, bears yeah he did.

1426
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: You, know you, Know bears was my he was my. Guy,

1427
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: yeah and Then bill took him from. You, Yeah bill

1428
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: took him from.

1429
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: Me bears started with how was he back?

1430
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: Then he, Was, yeah he was my age, basically but

1431
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: he was he worked, hard but he was my. Guy

1432
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: IF i went, left he left went, right he went.

1433
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: Right you wanted to get me On julian. Show you

1434
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: have to talk to. Him you, know he was with

1435
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: me at the press. Conferences HE i was essentially training

1436
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: him For belichick the whole entire time on. You yeah,

1437
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: no but he BUT i Told bill to hire him

1438
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: when because we all left at the same. Time So i'm,

1439
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: like this is who you need because that press conference

1440
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: you had was harseship with that. Note you know you

1441
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: gotta hire my. Dude and, so oh, SHIT i forgot

1442
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: my tray to thought WHAT i was About Tula. Bowl

1443
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: so The Tuna. Bowl AND i don't know If belichick

1444
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: ever did. This so we're we're, practicing and now practice is.

1445
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: Sloppy he got so pissed he snatched the call sheets and.

1446
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: Everything he made all the, PLAYERS i mean all the

1447
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: coaches get off the. Field he made the fucking guy

1448
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: from the tower come, down stop. Taping practice is. Over

1449
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: if you motherfuckers want to win and you want to,

1450
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: practice say out, here do the ship your fucking. Self

1451
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: they started leaving the, coaches leaving he upstairs at this little.

1452
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: Window you could see him opening the curtain every now

1453
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: and trying to see. Us he want to see.

1454
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: Us we're.

1455
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: Practicing Because vinnie and Beat cox and they have The

1456
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: yeah we got, yeah, yeah the whole, deal the whole. Deal,

1457
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: yeah the whole, deal the whole. Deal and we made the.

1458
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: Film guys go back up and start the. Film so

1459
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: they watched the, tape you, know coaches with the, bullshit

1460
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: they watched the. TAPE i just was, like these motherfuckers

1461
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: and we went up The fox boll beat the ship

1462
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: out Of Pete.

1463
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: Carroll yeah we beat them. Bad oh, yeah we beat them.

1464
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: BAD i think The bowl, TWO i think, yeah, yeah

1465
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: the first close first. ONE i think like like a

1466
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: like a last minute. TOUCHDOWN i hit the.

1467
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: CORNER i hit The Max cafe X. Q i was

1468
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: THE x on The Max cafe at the deep deep

1469
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: corner in the back of the END z on the

1470
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: left hand.

1471
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: SIRE i know my ship with the overtime and there

1472
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: is some special team stuff. Here.

1473
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah John hall missed the field, goal the walk

1474
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: off field. GOAL i Love John hall smoked that. Weed

1475
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: that was my, kicker hey. Kicker, yeah he was. Cool

1476
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't a.

1477
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: Kicker he was a.

1478
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: Dude, well we had a we had a couple of those.

1479
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: Guys he was a guy like he was one of our.

1480
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: Boys you know What i'm, saying there's always. One there's

1481
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: always a kicker or punter that can hang with. Them

1482
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: back in that, day they hated. More, yeah but you

1483
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: gotta think back in that, day he was so cool

1484
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: and he liked the black. Girls and he's a white,

1485
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: kicker and he wanted to hang out with us because

1486
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: he liked the black. Chicks you know What i'm. Saying,

1487
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: no we don't. Care but back in that, day you,

1488
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: know but you, know times have changed a. Lot when he,

1489
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: said once you go, black you never go. Back man Oh, man.

1490
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: Shout Out John, all shout Out, jay.

1491
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: Heazy But bill Was bill's Benf this, team this brings back.

1492
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: Mebe this is a fun. Team all, right what a

1493
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: good group of. Dudes let's jump into the.

1494
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: Game all.

1495
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 4: Right we just got a little quote From keishan here

1496
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 4: to foreshadow of this. Thing week leading up to the,

1497
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: Game keishawan, SAID i want to be the guy on every, play, running, catching, blocking.

1498
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: Whatever and we saw that today in this literally From

1499
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: kishan with the stat line insane comes out. Hot vinnie

1500
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 4: finds Keish on in that twenty one yard see right

1501
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 4: down in the middle of, there. Touchdown John hall then

1502
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 4: as on a fifty two, yarder at the, time the

1503
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 4: longest field goal In jets playoff. History, wow a little

1504
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 4: fun fact for the special.

1505
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: Teamers, YAH i didn't know he had a fifty two

1506
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: yard got up ten.

1507
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: Nothing then we get to one of the wilder moments

1508
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 4: of the, game whereas Where kishaw's fumble recovery comes From

1509
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 4: Curtis martin fumble. Weird Chris hudson returns the, ball tries

1510
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 4: to do a lateral on the. Run boy play hustle

1511
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 4: played from kishon tracks other. Side gotta getting covered that,

1512
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: thing got?

1513
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: It? Yeah get mad the ball turn you gotta you

1514
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta chase in, in you. Know and in this situation

1515
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: that was just me in general, though RIGHT i. WAS

1516
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: i was on the other side of the, field AND

1517
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: i Saw curtis, fumble AND i just, said let me

1518
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: get on my. Horse if they just slowing, Down i'm

1519
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna catch. Him they just gotta make him slow it.

1520
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: Down that's what happened in and he wound up trying

1521
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: to ladder BECAUSE i was in the right place at

1522
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: the right time and doing my. Job this is what.

1523
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 4: Happened that's what happens when you hustle, amen right. Place

1524
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 4: it was one of the dumber Moves i've seen.

1525
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: That that.

1526
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: Lateral that was a bad. Lateral, no it.

1527
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: WAS i don't, know because he's not used to carrying the.

1528
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: Ball catchers, catch, throw us.

1529
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: Throw Did parcels ever have drills for the defensive. Guys,

1530
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: yeah they always had, to like on how to carry the.

1531
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: BALL i don't know if they we used to do.

1532
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,919
Speaker 1: That bill would show those plays and, say, look, asshole

1533
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: like you're. Nothold we're not doing this. Right, okay if

1534
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, this it better be the last play

1535
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: of the, game and we need you know WHAT i.

1536
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: Mean it's just Fucking oh my. GOSH i would hate

1537
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: to be in the film room With bill after IF

1538
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 2: i had done that. Latter oh my. God, no it

1539
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: was crazy.

1540
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: Though this is, crazy, man and this game was crazy.

1541
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: Too.

1542
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 4: Insane that set Up keshawn's other touchdown the end a.

1543
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 4: Round as we, mentioned reverse.

1544
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,959
Speaker 1: Was butch right toss thirty eight z reverse left.

1545
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: The same fucking, play so we would change.

1546
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: Formationally depend started getting all that zip zoom snug. Bullshit

1547
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: later on that. SHIP i had all that shit With

1548
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: grooten punk ass and zip is just, basically, yeah TAILOR

1549
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: z gotta come in to, block, yeah or come half

1550
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: zip down because we would do that. Too we would

1551
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: go butt, Right we would go butt, right zip toss

1552
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Gators SO i would come and zip down

1553
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: and then come back. Around, yeah it was grooding like

1554
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: as a.

1555
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 4: Coach we get through this, anyways before the, half we

1556
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 4: get up seventeen to. Nothing here there's a little, scuffle

1557
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 4: a little scuffle before The have you like to see

1558
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: that and play a? Football Jumbo elliott and Old Kevin,

1559
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 4: hardy they were getting into.

1560
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: It jumbo was.

1561
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: Big he WAS i don't know what type office in

1562
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: lineman you played, with but he might have been one

1563
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: of the Big he could walk to the door. Man

1564
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: he was one of them type of dudes.

1565
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: On time name too so. Big, yeah we Had we

1566
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: had a.

1567
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: Couple we didn't WE i had one really big Hoo Trent,

1568
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah Trump, Brown Trimp brown was a large. HUMAN i

1569
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: think he was like But jumbo was a large human

1570
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: but ripped. Up he had the little you know how

1571
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: we used to we had THE v back in the.

1572
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: Day that's what he had as a line and he

1573
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: had THE.

1574
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: V that's like.

1575
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: Crazy we had A Nate. Soldier, YEAH i. Know nate

1576
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: was really like he he was three hundred and fifteen

1577
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: pounds of a six. Pack, yeah this is How jumbo,

1578
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: was you know WHAT i. Mean so there's just Like

1579
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: jumbo was cool, too bone, Man jumbo was. Cool that

1580
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: was one of my coolest offensive line HOMIES i. Had,

1581
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: yes it's so funny. MAN i, uh before you mentioned the,

1582
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: Halftime before the, Half Jimmy smith. SCORED i believe that's

1583
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: fifty two.

1584
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: Yard bomb six seconds right as the half.

1585
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 1: WAS i was supposed to go in the, game, oh in,

1586
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: safety to be the.

1587
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: Safety.

1588
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: Wow barcels And belichick got into, it and it was

1589
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: the craziest ship we ever ever seen on the sideline

1590
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: between two coaches, ever because Bella check didn't want to

1591
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: put me, In parcels wanted to put me. In belichick said,

1592
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,879
Speaker 1: no and they went right up the rail bomb touchdown.

1593
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: Them parcelles just lit his, Ask oh my, gosh how

1594
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: was that? Relationship at that? TIME i thought it was,

1595
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: Fine and it's great now they like, Now but at

1596
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: that TIME i thought it was.

1597
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: FINE i DIDN'T i don't know the. Difference.

1598
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Right he came back the next, year but that, thing my.

1599
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: EYEBALLS i was, like Because i'm standing there ready to

1600
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: go inn you know the, situation you, Know and he's like,

1601
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: No And parcells told. Him at this, Time parcells said

1602
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: something to the effect, of you think you know every fucking.

1603
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: Thing that's your fucking. Genius, huh you think you know.

1604
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: Everything that's why you fucking got fired From. Cleveland, yeah

1605
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: that'll that'll get, it that'll get the fumes. Going shots.

1606
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: FIRED i was like, This oh, shit it's when the

1607
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: situation came up. AGAIN i went in and got the. Deception.

1608
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Yo that was the craziest.

1609
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: Gus But i've Seen bill do that to the coaches before.

1610
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: Ourselves the type of coach that goes for, neck he

1611
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: going for, Throat he's gonna go for. Kill shot, man

1612
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: try to light that fire in your huge. SHOT i

1613
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: watched THE i Watched bill get. IT i Watched bill get.

1614
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: It Charlie, weiss what? Time because you know how you

1615
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: do the, cards the cards wasn't in. Sync it was

1616
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: like all messed. Up and at this, Time Krispy Kreme

1617
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme donuts had just became a big, thing came

1618
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: to The east coast Of New. York so we used

1619
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: to make all the younger guys go pick him up or, Whatever,

1620
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: yeah pick him, up put him out at the And

1621
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: charlie would come to the players lounge and gets up.

1622
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: Donuts he had messed up the, cards what time And bill's.

1623
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: HID i bet you if those these fucking cards Charge

1624
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: Krispy kreme, donut you'd have got that Right. Jesus we was,

1625
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: like oh, shit but that's how he, was, though you,

1626
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: know that's HOW i. Was what's the worst thing he

1627
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: laid into? You WHEN i was with The jets though

1628
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: he trying to. Think one, time he just he was

1629
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: just saying, that AM i coming to? Play i'm coming

1630
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: to the. Game that wasn't smart like. That he wasn't

1631
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: really never you, know into me like. That but WHEN

1632
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: i got To dallas coming From. Tampa, Uh we're playing

1633
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: The Cleveland browns and Late Terry glenn gets hit. Late

1634
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: SO i see it from a distance AND i run

1635
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: over there AND i kicked the ship out of the

1636
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: dude from spearing kicked. Him SO i basically took four

1637
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: points off the, board kick in the field goal fifteen

1638
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: yard blah. Blah so he was, like you know that was.

1639
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: STUPID i don't know what's gotten into. You just you

1640
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: left the Fucking jets and that ship was stupid and,

1641
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: nah you, know just going off and off and, off

1642
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: And i'm barking back at, him cussing back at, him,

1643
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: cussing and that was pretty much.

1644
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: It then one time were up In.

1645
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: Seattle we're playing in The, seahawks AND i was. Playing,

1646
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: OKAY i had a good, game BUT i should HAVE

1647
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: i should have called a corner route for a, touchdown

1648
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: BUT i. DIDN'T i didn't jump enough aggressive. ENOUGH i

1649
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: kind of just put my hands, up BUT i didn't

1650
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna get. It and SO i go back to the.

1651
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: Sideline i'll kick a field. Goal he's talking shit. Whatever

1652
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: So i'm, LIKE i, said, WELL i don't have to

1653
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: play For you can fucking trade. ME i don't really

1654
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: give a. Fuck you can cut me whatever you want

1655
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: to and see how you see how this rest of

1656
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: the season.

1657
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 2: Go so you fight fire with for. Fire so now

1658
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: end of.

1659
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: The, Game i'll take the fucking ball off the dude's

1660
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: head on a. VINNIE i don't. Know it might have

1661
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: been like a forty yard throw, touchdown BUT i go

1662
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: AND i just lost the. Dudes so after the, game walked.

1663
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Through you could play with me.

1664
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: ANYTIME i, said of COURSE i. Can't you know that's

1665
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: the type BECAUSE i was a sit talker right we.

1666
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: Played he was just Getting he knew how to put

1667
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: people's buttons to get them to. WORK i told you

1668
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: so one time we Play indy and this is ninety,

1669
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: nine were planning In indy if we, win we're in.

1670
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Testa verdie's, Hurt Ray lucas is, in so we go

1671
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: time out. Sideline they, say what do you want to?

1672
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 1: Do they because they used to come to me for,

1673
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: all like a lot of. Players he come to, me

1674
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: go what do you want to? Do, so, Man i'm

1675
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: whatever y'all want to. DO i think we should go

1676
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: for a vert, here leave me, inside Put wayne outside of.

1677
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: Me and THEN i Think charlie was, like, no, no

1678
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: put key, outside Put wayne in. Four let's go half

1679
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: personnel the, bender make him the. Bender they'll all run

1680
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: the key. Shine everything was, perfect really. Was it was

1681
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: a perfect call. Play everything was good Except wayne couldn't

1682
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: get up to get it because it was just slightly

1683
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: above his. Hands so To paul Rick, a chet's off his.

1684
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: Hands we lose the.

1685
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: Game it's not his fault, whatever, right go into the locker.

1686
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Room bill's walking. In god damn, it mad there's a trash,

1687
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 1: can and the trash can is still it's not. Plastic

1688
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: he kicks the fucking trash. CAN i think he broke his.

1689
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: Tongue SO i, GO i go to.

1690
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: It that's what you get what he.

1691
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: Said he just looked at. Me he used to.

1692
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: Do, man somebody we have that's like a father to.

1693
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: ME i talked to him four or five times a.

1694
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: Month he kicks the. THING i, go that's what that's

1695
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: that's what you. Get you, know he just shakes his head,

1696
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: whatever you. Know but but the things THAT i would,

1697
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: do like you, said fight fire with, fire needle. Needle

1698
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: BUT i was the first one on the, BUS i would.

1699
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: Be he didn't know THAT i was like that till

1700
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: we Played buffalo AND i happened to be the first

1701
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: one on the bus taking his. Seat you see What

1702
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 1: i'm saying up In, buffalo and he was like he

1703
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: was shocked because he was on the first bus that

1704
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: leaves super. Early he couldn't believe it out because he

1705
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: ain't never had nobody like that. Before so he respect,

1706
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: that you know What i'm. Saying he could be an

1707
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: asshole if you put your work. In oh he was an.

1708
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: ASSHOLE i broke like. You yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah

1709
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: who could be if you put the work. In we In, dallas,

1710
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: THOUGH i break my. ANKLE i mean we're, yeah we

1711
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: planning the downska In New. YORK i break my ankle

1712
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: last game of the. Season BUT i ALWAYS i needed a.

1713
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: Scope this first TIME i ever been. Hurt had a

1714
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: half a million dollars. CENTER i needed twenty two yards

1715
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: MORE i. GOT i, know im going into the. GAME

1716
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: i needed forty. FOUR i got hurt in the first.

1717
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: QUARTER i hit a deep crosser on An apache route

1718
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: twenty two yards, clear get, caught snapped. Right i'm in

1719
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: the locker. Room i'm sitting on the. Thing. Fuck he comes.

1720
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: Over what's wrong with? Him he goes, Well, bill he

1721
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: broke his. Ankle he goes, good he can get surgery on. Both,

1722
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: Now i'm like this, motherfucker but just great though it,

1723
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: was he was, cool, though he was that's about.

1724
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 2: Guy, well so you guys go in.

1725
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Halftime there's kind of some mixed, emotions clearly a blow

1726
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: up between the coaching. Staff he just gave up a

1727
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: big ass. Touchdown what are the vibes in the locker.

1728
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Room we're just we're probably still feeling, confident, yeah but

1729
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: we just can't make. Mistakes that was a mistake to

1730
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: Let Jimmy smith up the rail right before the. Half

1731
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: that was a big mistake on our, Yeah jackie break

1732
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: down the second. Half second, half The jags just would

1733
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: not go.

1734
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 4: Away A Wayne crebet fumble of any interception in the end,

1735
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 4: zone big run, back eighty eight yard run back on a,

1736
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 4: kickoff like just would not go. Away this thing kept

1737
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: getting to like it would get seventeen, nothing then it

1738
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 4: was twenty four to, nothing then thirty one to.

1739
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: Fourteen then it's a one score.

1740
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 4: Game thirty one twenty four with two and a half,

1741
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 4: left When Donovan darius picked Off vinnie in the end

1742
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 4: zone LIKE i mentioned, earlier But Keith byers ran it

1743
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 4: out of the end, zone got stopped on the one

1744
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 4: one bad field, position Said jet stopped, him ended up

1745
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 4: tacking on a fe search thirty four to twenty.

1746
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: Four that takes us to the end.

1747
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 4: Where a last ditch Hail mary Try keishawn's interception in

1748
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 4: is this thing in the final score thirty four in the, Game.

1749
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: Well they ag wanted it BUT i stepped in front of. Him,

1750
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: right they're telling me the Bad i'm like my bad ship.

1751
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: Down if you can get, It i'm getting.

1752
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: It i'm kidding. It fuck.

1753
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: That and so the vibe was. Cool we. Celebrate you,

1754
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: know it was fun because most of the TIME i

1755
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: hang with the. DEFENSE i hang with the, defense and

1756
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: so you, know that was all my. Boys all the

1757
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 1: secondary was my. Guys we all hang, together and they

1758
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: KNEW i was Going, Ray, Ray mickens and all. Them

1759
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,640
Speaker 1: they KNEW i was going things like, this, ego, this

1760
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: what fucker get a?

1761
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Pin so you're in team meeting That.

1762
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: Monday, Yeah i'm that. Guy i'm, like, here tell the

1763
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: guy the. Best you make a play that you're not supposed, To,

1764
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: like that's not your because WHEN i threw a, TOUCHDOWN

1765
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: i came in and iceed up my arm and, it you,

1766
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: know do, something But belichick wanted me to knock it.

1767
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: Down yeah he knocking a ten point.

1768
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: Cushion come, on give me that fuck. Up you KNOW

1769
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: i was was. NOBODY i KNEW i was, fine almost

1770
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: gonna get my. Pick hell yeah you. Gotta and you

1771
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 2: guys go, out you finish out a.

1772
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: Game you get the First jets playoff win in twelve,

1773
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: years first playoff appearance in nine, Years your first game

1774
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: in the. Playoffs you fucking ball out one hundred and twenty,

1775
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: yards two, touchdowns one, rushing one, passing an, interception, recovery, tumble. Recovery.

1776
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 4: Insane what a game, game what a do it all.

1777
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: Day and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention at

1778
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 4: the time this was the larger. Shutdown oh, man it

1779
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 4: should have been.

1780
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: Three.

1781
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Uh we got to.

1782
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: Mention this would go down as the.

1783
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 4: Largest crowd in pro football history at that, point seventy

1784
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 4: eight and, seventeen.

1785
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Bigger than the Old Recres stadium at this. Time at this,

1786
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 1: time that was always the biggest stadium WHEN i was a, Kid,

1787
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: remember REMEMBER i, thought, YEAH i thought The redskins the.

1788
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: STADIUM i don't, know maybe it was seventy seven.

1789
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: Thousand this seems shocking to. Me that's.

1790
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: Crazy it was so loud, Though oh my, god even

1791
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: the watching, back oh so. Loud you can like, vibration you,

1792
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: know just the fireman at the fans was just. Amazing

1793
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: so you go from people your rookie Year, edelmans you

1794
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 1: never experienced. This what a guy wearing a bag over

1795
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: his head with drips of, sadness with his eyes poked,

1796
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: out crying as a grown. Man you never had to experience.

1797
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: THAT i experienced that as a rookie When i'm walking

1798
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: through the tunnel after the loss of THE Ki you,

1799
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: suck you. Suck takes it off because we wasted a

1800
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: number pick on. You you. Suck you, know grown ass.

1801
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Man sounds Like jets. Fans jet, fans sounds Like jet. Fan,

1802
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: yeah and then all of a sudden you go to

1803
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: this and you got fireman ned over. Here.

1804
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah oh that's something that you're for, now, man that

1805
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: that had to be so fucked you know.

1806
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: WHAT i helped The jets turn it around here. SOON

1807
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: i think it'd be good for the. League, YEAH i

1808
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: think they. WILL i think they'll be fine Under aaron

1809
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: klton a g's got he's a dude to do it.

1810
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: Too player for the team knows.

1811
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: It last time they've actually really won except when San

1812
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: chito was there and he beat us in which THE

1813
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: Afc championship.

1814
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: Twice. Key have you talked to him since he took

1815
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 2: over a couple of times a? Week oh heck, yeah that's.

1816
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Sick so what's the legacy of this, Game keishan really

1817
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 1: my first real experience in the. PLAYOFFS i, mean that's really.

1818
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: It that's that's how you are supposed to approach the.

1819
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: Postseason you're supposed to approach it that. Way that's the

1820
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: WAY i look at. It hell, yeah that's WHY i picked,

1821
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: it because you, know college is like, Whatever i'm a

1822
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: man of most boys in.

1823
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: College you know What i'm.

1824
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: Saying That Rose bull game these, DUDES i, know But

1825
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: i'm a man of most boys In college's too. Easy,

1826
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: dude just left the fucking problem a week, ago trying

1827
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: to cover. Me, Right i'll be, like come, Right i'll be,

1828
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: like think about. It different than the. Pros you got

1829
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: grown men with full beards with car seats the. Back in,

1830
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: college you got to do. That just, left literally left

1831
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: the Promin.

1832
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: May he st JOHN.

1833
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: A no, Chance, yeah it's totally. Different no chance you

1834
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: have four or fifth year. Senior this dude's a seventeen

1835
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: year old. Dude eyeballs as biggest. Saucers they're just gaves

1836
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: aren't even developed.

1837
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Yet oh.

1838
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: Still still trying to figure out how to get his first.

1839
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 4: Kiss and we got to mention also in the aftermath

1840
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 4: of this, uh in the years that followed the near

1841
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 4: history a pivotal moment In jets And patriots. History Bill

1842
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 4: parcells would step down As jets head coach in ninety.

1843
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: Nine Bill belichick would famously take over for a. Day

1844
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 4: we all know the napkin every time that went.

1845
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: DOWN i was. There how did go? Down what's the?

1846
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Inside SO i, came Looksh i'm not taking this fucking. Job, no, no, no.

1847
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: No SO i came back in the. TOWN i had

1848
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: went out of town for like, something AND i came

1849
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 1: back AND i went To. VACILLY i was working out

1850
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: or whatever her and they like press conference, upstairs like

1851
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: what's going? ON i, SAID i THINK i Think bill's

1852
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: getting ready to. Retire fuck you. Mean SO i go

1853
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: up To parcells' office and he's. There he's, like, oh you,

1854
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: know some more bullshit or. Whatever i'm, like, Oh, so

1855
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Now bears is taking me back down to the to

1856
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the big. Room And i'm standing at the top of

1857
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: the auditorium or, whatever you, know theory your team. Room

1858
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: so he's. There i'm at the top on the, wall

1859
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: just standing there looking and here it Comes belichick on

1860
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: the other. Side he had like a sweatshirt on or

1861
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: some ship he got the little napkin and he's reading

1862
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: and the media is, there And i'm, like what the

1863
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: fuck just? Happened and So i'm talking To John, lott

1864
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: the strength coach at the, time and he, LIKE i, Think,

1865
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: bill you know this? Shit is he ready be the head?

1866
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Coach i'm, Like, okay, Cool i'm fucking With belichick at this.

1867
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 1: Time So i'm, like oh, right, COOL i didn't.

1868
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Know so now.

1869
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: The process is We belichick doesn't want the? Job, now

1870
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: fuck you mean just took the? Job, no he didn't

1871
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: take the. Job you didn't want the? Job damn what

1872
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: we gonna? Do so now at this, point it's all,

1873
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: crack chaotic and, crazy, Right it's, like, damn we ain't

1874
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: have no coach this?

1875
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Week got that.

1876
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Job i'm trying to Get i'm trying to get. Check

1877
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: i'm getting to do you know What i'm. Saying how

1878
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: they came off back to back. Probos i'd bit to

1879
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 1: Pro BOW mvp when The Pro bowl was, real not

1880
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: t shirts Like i'm you know What i'm, Saying i'm

1881
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: trying to get shattered. Up and at this, Point i'm, like,

1882
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: damn what we gonna? Do so conversations being had And,

1883
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: uh they just start, shit just went chaotic and, crazy

1884
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 1: like literally like people are, like, no it was. Crazy

1885
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: BUT i felt like he was in good hands With.

1886
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Belichick yeah you know What i'm, saying Because belichick at

1887
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: the time when they traded, Me, belichick if he had

1888
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: stayed the head, coach he wasn't trading. Me he didn't understand.

1889
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Why he was like the fucking Way i'm Trading but

1890
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: they wind up trading me because Al grow felt like

1891
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: he didn't need, me he could just win with. Defense

1892
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: and but the crazy thing about it Is parcels became

1893
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: the president of the, team so he had full autonomy

1894
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and authority to do what they wanted. To so He

1895
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: parcels is actually the person who traded, me not Al,

1896
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: grow not the. Owner but he trades me To Tampa

1897
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: bay right away from the. Division he gets two number

1898
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: one picks the whole deal right because he originally pitched

1899
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: me to go To Green. Baby he KNEW i didn't

1900
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: want to go to Green he KNEW i wasn't going

1901
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: to Fucking Green. Bay he knew THAT i wasn't going

1902
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: to Fucking. Baltimore baltimore had the fourth pick And Green

1903
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: bay had somewhere in, there but, he, oh you can

1904
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: go play with. Fore i'm, like, man you, KNOW i

1905
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: ain't gonna Fucking Green. Bay i'm coming out Of New.

1906
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: York so he trades me To Tampa bay with the

1907
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: notion that he's getting ready to be The Tampa Bay buccaneers.

1908
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Coach ain't that a? Bitch he thought he was gonna

1909
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: be the.

1910
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: Coach he was going to be the.

1911
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Coach he turned it.

1912
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Down he accepted it and then turned it. DOWN i

1913
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: didn't hear about.

1914
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: That, Yeah so here's how the story. Went here's how it.

1915
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: WENT i arrived In. Tampa they trade me for two.

1916
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: MONTHS i go To. TAMPA i do the trade deal,

1917
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: whatever get the, bank get the, bag the whole. Shit right,

1918
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Now Tampa, bays we're struggling to. Win we're not. Winning

1919
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: we're not.

1920
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Winning whit.

1921
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Winning we get to the, playoffs we, lose get to the,

1922
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: playoffs we. Lose so now they get ready Fire. Dungee

1923
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: bill the whole time was eyeing The Tampa bay job

1924
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: when he. Retired good a place to, retire but he

1925
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: had already left him at The altar several years. Later

1926
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: before he took The New England patriot, job he had

1927
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: left the owners of The buccaneers at The altar. Already

1928
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: yeah it. Did he did the shit the second time

1929
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: after taking a. Job he hired the staff and every

1930
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: day it did, Decide, MAN i.

1931
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Don't want to do it.

1932
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: ANYMORE i. Don't i'm Just but the staff was already

1933
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: in place In. Tampa so now you move to The John.

1934
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,879
Speaker 1: Grutener that's how we wind up getting grouting is because

1935
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 1: we was left without a coach Because bill was supposed

1936
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: to take the job and didn't take the, job and

1937
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: they traded and then they had to find a. Coach

1938
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: they went and got. Grooped that's how we wound up With.

1939
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: Grooton but the staff was already in. Place the dudes

1940
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: that saying is a parcels staff Under. Gruden it was

1941
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: a parcels staff to a degree Under, grooton except the

1942
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: defense was All Tony dungee And mighty kiffing. Them the

1943
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: defense was it was gonna be. Kiffing it was gonna

1944
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 1: be The tampa too sou offensive Was Bill, merr officer

1945
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: line coach From. Jets Uh tannebom was gonna be the general,

1946
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: manager which was our guyet And jets receiver coach was Richer,

1947
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: man which was my receiver coach of The. Jets, right

1948
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: it was all like whatever didn't, go whatever didn't go

1949
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: To New england was In. Tampa and Then bill was,

1950
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: LIKE i ain't doing, it fucking. Parcels i'm not have

1951
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: to ask him about. That i'm gonna see him here. Soon,

1952
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: yeah you're both gonna get into The Patriot hall Of fame. Together.

1953
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Yea and when he was, driving he was supposed to

1954
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: BE i don't remember What dale was if he was

1955
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: driving To florida AND i was anticipating him being in

1956
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: there Because Tan obama had already came and you, know

1957
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: looked at everything and scoped it all out and did

1958
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: the whole. Deal he calls me and he, Goes i'm

1959
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: not doing. It what the fuck you mean you're not doing.

1960
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: It i'm not gonna take. IT i think something happened

1961
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: to his brother's brother got sick or. Something he just was,

1962
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't want to do it right. Now but

1963
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 1: then the next year he winds up going To. Dallas

1964
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Ain't that's why did he trades for me From tampa To.

1965
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Dallas he just loved. YOU i did everything he wanted

1966
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: me to. Do though you know how that, goes because

1967
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: you know you became the guy THAT i. Was parceles,

1968
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Guy you're A parceles. Guy two eight baby to twenty.

1969
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: FIVE i need you The Rose bowl guy two a.

1970
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Coach i'm, There, Yeah i'm.

1971
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: There i'm.

1972
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 5: Good let's start the teacher's pet park that car in the.

1973
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 5: Garage we'll be right back after this quick. Break let's

1974
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 5: score the game and name the. Game, uh let's name the.

1975
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Game we Have Keishawn's Big, Day welcome to And, why

1976
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: the Jack jets over The, jags The Keyshawn Johnson, game

1977
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 1: The madness in The, meadowlands The Key shawn does It all?

1978
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: Game which one do you want to? Pick, Kishan i'll

1979
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: probably Go madness in The Medal, Lands madness at the

1980
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: Meadow lands at The. Meddlelands, yeah score the. Game is

1981
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: this the greatest game of all? Time let's Score keyshawn

1982
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: stakes zero to ten of This Divisional round game. Decimals,

1983
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: okay you got.

1984
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 2: The greatest of all?

1985
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Time ten being the big the fucking most important thing,

1986
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: ever zero BEING i would, say at this, time the

1987
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:37,879
Speaker 1: most important team ever because of the. Chants, Honestly Divisional,

1988
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: Round i'm gonna go eight, Winner Go, Home Winner Go

1989
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: home and one star power of this game people that

1990
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: are at the, stadium, players coach, shit what was the

1991
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: star power of this? Game zero to ten? Decimals, OKAY

1992
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: i would probably say a nine. Nine.

1993
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah some of the coaching, staffs a lot of future head.

1994
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: Coaches we even talked About Scott. FROST a lot of

1995
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 2: head coaches in This Scott. Frost i'm gonna go with The.

1996
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Frosty we used to funk with him all the time

1997
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: because this is what he got in trouble With Lawrence

1998
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: phillips and. Stuff he used To teasey all the, time

1999
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: like you're scared of. Ship, Huh Lawrence, phips gonna kick your.

2000
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: Lass i'll give you eight point.

2001
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 2: Eight got a seven nine out of eight point.

2002
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: Four Game player of the. Game how the game, WENT

2003
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: i mean it was back and, forth a big, blows

2004
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: a lot of, turnovers exciting. FOOTBALL i would say a

2005
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: seven good. SCORE i like. That i'm gonna.

2006
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Go i'm gonna go seven to five out of six

2007
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: eight at six point seven point one in the same.

2008
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Area, yea and now or now we score the name

2009
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: of the, Game The madness at The Meadow lambs zero

2010
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 1: ten decimals a okays a ten ten madness is, crazy lamb.

2011
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Loud they ain't never seen nothing like, This some of

2012
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: them people in them fans and the stands ain't seen

2013
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 1: the just win a playoff game in one hundred. Years,

2014
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: yeah that's probably.

2015
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: True i'm go, Eight i'm right.

2016
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Mid where's this stack? Up?

2017
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: AHEAD a five point? ZERO i had a four point?

2018
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Nine where does his stack?

2019
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: Up that's, fine stay. Calculating it's a seven point eight

2020
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: to seven point eight.

2021
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: Two so that puts us uh the new forty fifth,

2022
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: slot just behind the two thousand and one twenty ONE

2023
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 2: sec championship Game georgia Versus, alabama and just above the

2024
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty Five week Thirteen bears Versus Dolphins monday night

2025
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 2: football Game bears versus the forty fifth. GAME i don't

2026
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 2: remember that.

2027
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Game that was the game that was the only defeat

2028
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: The bears had in nineteen eighty.

2029
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Five, YEAH i just don't remember the.

2030
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: Game, well you, know The dolphins guy's always taking the.

2031
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Ship game twenty twenty, ONE i remember that championship. Game

2032
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: that was a freaking crazy. Game nobody is. Boring people

2033
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 1: got tired of watching that. GAME i Know alabama And, Georgia,

2034
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia. Keyshaw we miss anything on this, GAME i

2035
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: don't think, so. Dude you gave us some great fabis aspic, insight.

2036
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Perspective fucking had a.

2037
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 3: Blast everyone go check them out on speak ON fs

2038
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 3: one weekdays at five. Pm follow them on all the

2039
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 3: social Platforms instagram and acts at key sean uh and

2040
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 3: thank you bro for coming. On, yeah it's, good, Right

2041
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 3: All Facts No breaks podcast check it out Fire are

2042
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 3: you gonna let me know What i'm?

2043
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: On?

2044
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: No, yeah speaking of, That All Facts No, Breaks we're

2045
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: actually doing a this. Summer we're going to release The

2046
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: legends Of. La so What i've done Is i've gone

2047
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: around the city Of, la whether it was, athletes, entertainment

2048
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: whatever the case, is anywhere from N wa uh you,

2049
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 1: know To Paul, Pierce Baron, davis To Shawn jackson's people

2050
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: that's from Southern california that really took it to the next.

2051
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Level i'm interviewing them in different sequences and we put

2052
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 1: it all together so we rolling out as like a

2053
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: seven part, series documentary.

2054
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: Style pretty it's a great. Idea what's what's it.

2055
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: Called it's gonna be all faction, breaks but it's all,

2056
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: facts no, breaks L a. Legends, okay, yeah, WOW i

2057
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: can't wait to see. That LIKE i interviewed like Ice,

2058
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: Cube hell, yeah we're looking to get him on the

2059
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 1: show real, soon just coming, soon Ice Cube. Cube we

2060
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 1: Got Barry davis on To. YEAD i went down over the.

2061
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: Compound you've been over.

2062
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: There we had The he's.

2063
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: EASY i grew up with ALL i grew up with

2064
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: all them, dudes like everybody from L. A, BASICALLY i

2065
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: grew up. With that's fucking great class to be out, MAN.

2066
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: La they show, out they show, out thank you for coming.

2067
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 2: On oh, yeah no problem. Man Key shank's pro that

2068
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 2: might have been. Sneaky one of my favorite episodes we've ever. Done,

2069
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: yeah just like knew the, assignment knew the. Thing picked

2070
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: a great fucking, game great, stories great. Era let it.

2071
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 3: Rip Key shan sees everything, too because after the, show

2072
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 3: came up to me and, says your dad's still mad at.

2073
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 3: ME i think my dad called into it a talk

2074
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 3: radio once About keishaw's opinion on something don't know for a,

2075
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: fact but really. Bad keyshaw's, like you're dead all. RIGHT

2076
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 3: i tried looking that. UP i couldn't find.

2077
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: ANYTHING i couldn't, either yea.

2078
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: Regardless like completely different. Person when you meet, him you

2079
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 3: understand him way more.

2080
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Seriously he's one of those guys where you look at

2081
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: media and he's like in that like that's he's that's

2082
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 2: his w, character even when he's playing like The diva Wide.

2083
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,480
Speaker 2: Receiver but then you just learn like how Much parcels

2084
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 2: respected him and they had the thing you know that

2085
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 2: he's a fucking.

2086
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 3: Grinder he's a, grinder a blocking he emphasized, that you,

2087
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 3: know the hustle play in the. Game it was A

2088
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 3: it was a fun and that was a fun interview

2089
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 3: to get to know key shonk because, yeah we all we,

2090
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 3: all we all know What kishon is ON.

2091
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Tv but he ain't really liked, THAT i, guess but he,

2092
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 1: is but he's, not but you understand.

2093
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 2: Why, yeah, Completely and it was really cool from me

2094
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 2: And jack's perspective to see like you guys like long lost,

2095
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 2: cousins like having played in the same, offense same.

2096
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 3: Offense, yeah going in talking about The Charlie weiss system

2097
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,560
Speaker 3: and how it evolved when you know McDaniel's got it To.

2098
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: Billy oh then you know when he, left like we

2099
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 3: were speaking the same. Languages it's, fun BUT i could

2100
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 3: we we we changed a lot of the. Language the

2101
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 3: OLDER i got. It you, know it's like the old

2102
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 3: like he was talking opec and, shit that was like

2103
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 3: WHEN i first got there in like Nine then we

2104
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 3: never used opec after like five years. Again, Yeah, well

2105
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,879
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2109
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2110
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2111
01:42:55,320 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 2: SEGMENT a couple episodes, ago you talked in depth recently

2112
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 2: about what it's like to just in the, weeds nitty,

2113
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: gritty beat by beat details of what it's like traveling

2114
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 2: for AN nfl away. Game so a lot of people

2115
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 2: have been in the. Comments they really like. THAT a

2116
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of positive freeedback about. That so we're trying to

2117
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 2: do a segment WHERE i just want you to go

2118
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: super deep into a SPECIFIC nfl inside our. Conversation so

2119
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the comments have been suggesting you talked

2120
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 2: about Brock perty just signed that big. Deal just people

2121
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: want to know a little bit more information in depth

2122
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: about what contracts are like in THE nfl and what

2123
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: contract negotiations going so high, level give us what contract

2124
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: negotiations are like in.

2125
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 1: THE, nfl well. Contracts, well contract negotiations in THE, nfl

2126
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: and contract NEGOTIATIONS i had with The New England patriots

2127
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: are completely different AS i look at, It and they've also,

2128
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: changed which rightfully they. Should you, know it's been way

2129
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 1: more player. Friendly i've never LIKE i can remember WHEN

2130
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,560
Speaker 1: i got hurt in twenty, twelve The patriots offered me

2131
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: a contract before the season to sign. THAT i thought,

2132
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 1: like that's not IF i AND i won the starting

2133
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: job going into that. Year they so they were trying

2134
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: to lock me in for like some league minimum deal

2135
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 1: with like a week signing, bonus WHICH i was, Like

2136
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 1: i'm GOING i would rather go to free. Agency so

2137
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 1: we played out the year AND i broke my foot

2138
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: and THEN i BROKE i broke my hand and missed

2139
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: a couple of. GAMES i bawled. OUT i had a

2140
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: THREE i had three games WHERE i was, bawling and

2141
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: THEN i broke my foot and so it got to

2142
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: a sudden. Holt SO i WENT i remember going back

2143
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: after that AND i was sitting there, THINKING i was, like, man,

2144
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: oh at Least i'm going to get that shitty little

2145
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: contract they offered, me you.

2146
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 2: Know which it'll still be a pay, raise you.

2147
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 3: Know you, KNOW i remember going back to the negotiations

2148
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 3: and they, said that's how we felt, then this is

2149
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 3: how we feel. Now and it was a completely different

2150
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 3: number with a lot less money BECAUSE i was, hurt

2151
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: WHICH i understood that now now nowadays guys tear their

2152
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 3: a cls and they're getting paid the biggest contract in

2153
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 3: the history of the, game which that was never like,

2154
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 3: that at least WHERE i was. At you, know they

2155
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 3: they always they would always say WE'RE i remember just,

2156
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 3: vividly you, know when you're negotiating with, them they're, saying

2157
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 3: we're not paying you for what you've, Done we're paying

2158
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 3: you for what we project you to, do you. Know

2159
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 3: and that's where the differences are in different. ORGANIZATIONS i

2160
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 3: wish it was. DIFFERENT i WISH i got it other

2161
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 3: way like other, guys but with the Brock purty.

2162
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 2: Contract when renegotiations, starts like if you start performing outside

2163
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 2: of your, content like what they're paying you, for the

2164
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: paying you to, project and you start performing outside of.

2165
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,480
Speaker 2: That what does that look like from negotiation? Standpoint renegotiation, Standpoint.

2166
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 3: Well it, usually, uh you, know every TIME i signed a,

2167
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 3: CONTRACT i like balled out the First LIKE i feel

2168
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 3: LIKE i outplayed that contract that, year But i'd have

2169
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 3: like three, years like we never went back to the

2170
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 3: table until the last year of your. Deal now it's

2171
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 3: changed a little bit because of you, know guys want

2172
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 3: to lock guys in before the market gets too, high,

2173
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 3: this that the, other and and they and guys try

2174
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 3: to you, know teams and guys want, security and so

2175
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 3: sometimes you see guys getting renegotiated with two three, years

2176
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 3: a rip up a contract like that wasn't really we.

2177
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 1: WEREN'T i wasn't a guy that ever dealt with.

2178
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 3: That With Brock purdy being a seventh round draft, pick you,

2179
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 3: know that's something also THAT i think is a key

2180
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 3: figure in this. DEAL i always felt IF i was

2181
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 3: a third or a second round draft pick AND i

2182
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 3: had the same production after my first or my second,

2183
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 3: contract THAT i would have got more.

2184
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 2: Money.

2185
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 3: UH i, think you, know brought kind of surpassed. That,

2186
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 3: yeah he took a little. Less what is it fifty?

2187
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Three what is?

2188
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: It what's is guaranteed.

2189
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 2: Guaranteed that's SOMETHING i wanted to ask you about, too

2190
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 2: is let's see the difference between guaranteed and. Total let's see.

2191
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Value so we'll see is guaranteed money one hundred and

2192
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 1: eighty it's six, years five years including your two sixty

2193
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: five contract. Extension how many years the deal?

2194
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: Still this? One so he has one year so this

2195
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 2: will go through twenty twenty or twenty, thirty and he's

2196
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: got one hundred and eighty one million in guaranteed with

2197
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 2: a full note trade clause has been, Reported so.

2198
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty one million over this six. Years

2199
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 1: so what's one hundred and eighty divided into? Four it's

2200
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: forty five point twenty. Five so that's what that. Is

2201
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: he's really of real. Money that's How that's HOW i

2202
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 1: used to look at. It it's one hundred and eighty

2203
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 1: one divided by either you know. Whatever that number is

2204
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years shorter than the contract because that's

2205
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: kind of like they're, out which that's pretty cheap if

2206
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: you think about. It you, know NOW i have opportunity

2207
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: to earn more. Money so what is that that's? Like

2208
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: that could be that could be built in, escalators meaning

2209
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: like he has to.

2210
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,520
Speaker 3: LIKE i had a built in escalator in my contract

2211
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 3: WHERE i would make like a million bucks more or

2212
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 3: five hundred grand more IF i had My at that,

2213
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 3: time my high was one hundred and five. Catches so

2214
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 3: IF i got to like ninety catches a thousand yards

2215
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 3: and either six, touchdowns LIKE i had to get three

2216
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 3: of that and then or we went to the Super

2217
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 3: bowl SO i could have three of, THOSE i would

2218
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 3: get that. Money there's, incentives so like. That that's also

2219
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 3: like incentives and escalators are kind of in the same.

2220
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 3: BOAT i don't know the actual. Differences i'm not a cap,

2221
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: guy but same thing like if you, have like For Brock,

2222
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 3: purdy if you if you play a certain amount of

2223
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 3: if you play a certain amount of percentage of the,

2224
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 3: year you'll get an extra two five million. Dollars but

2225
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 3: a lot of this what people don't realize these roster

2226
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 3: bonuses that are In they used to give us roster,

2227
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 3: bonus so what is? That so the roster bonus is

2228
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 3: actually in the guaranteed. Money so they'll, say here's your roster.

2229
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 3: Bonus of for, ME i think it was like a

2230
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 3: million five or. SOMETHING i don't.

2231
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Know my.

2232
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 3: Numbers you guys will probably be able to look that.

2233
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: Up BUT i had a roster bonus that goes into

2234
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 3: your guaranteed, money but it ain't. Guaranteed you have to

2235
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: be on the active day roster to get that. Money

2236
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 3: so whatever that, Was so say it's a million, bucks

2237
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 3: divide that by. Seventeen how many is?

2238
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: That let's just say it's one point, seven one point

2239
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: seven or one hundred. K you get one HUNDRED k a.

2240
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: Game but SAY i got hurt AND i didn't play

2241
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: in three, GAMES i WOULDN'T i wouldn't collect those those.

2242
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 2: Three checks that comes out of.

2243
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 3: Guaranteed now that comes out of your guaranteed. Money so

2244
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: you got to look into like what his guaranteed money.

2245
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 3: Is there's a lot of ways of you, know also

2246
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 3: the guaranteed money could be like you have to be

2247
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 3: uh workout bonuses and what's the workout workout? Bonuses you

2248
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 3: have to be a eighty percent of the off season

2249
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 3: program in order to collect that. Money it kind of

2250
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 3: incentivizes his guys to stay around the. Team so that's

2251
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 3: the non mandatory workout non mandatory you have to hit eighty.

2252
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 2: Percent, okay, Cool? Okay, Interesting so it is kind of

2253
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 2: mandatory if you want to hit a certain amount of

2254
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:21,759
Speaker 2: threshold for your, money.

2255
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: If you want to make your.

2256
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 3: Money, okay there's also like and then also like for

2257
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 3: for linemen or, big big, defensivelignement like that their weight

2258
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 3: could be you, know negotiated in as a incentive if

2259
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 3: this or you, know if he breaks over. This, uh you,

2260
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 3: know they could technically take that money. Away so there's

2261
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff in that guaranteed, money which isn't always.

2262
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 3: Guaranteed so Brock, Perdy i'm sure it went down where

2263
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 3: he outplayed his contract as a seventh, rounder you, know

2264
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 3: the first few. Years so it was a tough situation

2265
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 3: to be in because he still had a bunch of

2266
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: years on his deal and you still wanted to see

2267
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: if it would be, able you, know to continue doing.

2268
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: It, yeah.

2269
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 3: But, uh you, know he he got. PAID i, mean

2270
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 3: he didn't get the. Sixty he got a five. There

2271
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 3: that's what everyone. Thinks but, really if you think about,

2272
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 3: it it's like four year forty.

2273
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Five why only four versus five because you could divide,

2274
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: it it's more of like what is? That what is

2275
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty one divided by? Five it's thirty

2276
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 1: six point. TWO i don't know. Why i'd always just

2277
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: take off those two. Years and that's usually kind of

2278
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: HOW i thought about.

2279
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 2: It because the last year is some kind of. Bullshit

2280
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: dear either going to get, restructure structure going into the,

2281
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 2: cut depending on your.

2282
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Situation, yeah Depending AND i don't know all his his

2283
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 1: incentives for that extra or what is it two sixty

2284
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 1: the total? Contract, yeah two sixty, Five so two sixty,

2285
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Five so what's what's what's the difference between eighty four

2286
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: million eighty four?

2287
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: Million, yeah so that's all the.

2288
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: Incentives roster bonus is what have you that could be

2289
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: an incentives that could be roster. BONUS i haven't looked

2290
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: at the detail of the. CONTRACT i don't think they're

2291
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: fully out yet.

2292
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 3: Either that could be anything from, like, hey they could,

2293
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: negotiate then they if he GETS, mvp he could get

2294
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 3: a five million dollars.

2295
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: On Pro, BOWLS mvpl. Pros get, Atistical, yeah anything, statistical

2296
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 1: and those stats can go. Crazy it could be playing,

2297
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: time it could be completion, percentage it could be. TOUCHDOWNS i,

2298
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: mean whatever you want to negotiate or they want to.

2299
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Negotiate it's just a way for you to try to

2300
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: collect more of that.

2301
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: Money have you ever heard any like weird incentives something

2302
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: like stuck out, like, oh that was unusual or very

2303
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: specific to a certain.

2304
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: Player you, know the weight ones are always kind of

2305
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: weird to. Me but it's you, know these big boys

2306
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 1: during the.

2307
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,560
Speaker 2: Season, now would there be players that maybe are AND

2308
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 2: i know that you're not like A gm and you're

2309
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 2: not in the, cap but just from what you've seen

2310
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 2: and heard or, experienced players that maybe would have been

2311
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 2: injury prone or perceived to be injury prone having higher

2312
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,480
Speaker 2: like roster, Bonuses.

2313
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: Well that's what The patriots used to do a. Lot.

2314
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah and then also what they can do is they

2315
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 1: could put a split in your. Contract what is?

2316
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 2: That, uh it's.

2317
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: Usual it was always in all The patriots rookie deals

2318
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: where it was like non negotiable split is if you

2319
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: if you get, hurt you only make half your.

2320
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: Salary oh, wow, okay so separate from even roster, bonus

2321
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 2: separt from. Everything if you're like if you take YOUR

2322
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 2: acl in the first snap of, Preseason, no.

2323
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 3: Not your guarantee, money but like all your other money, Out,

2324
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 3: yeah you only get half is split.

2325
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: It that's and that's just non negotiable inside of every Single,

2326
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: well it's negotiable in the, contract but it was not

2327
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 1: negotiable for.

2328
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 3: Us.

2329
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 2: Gotcha and something THAT i think has a lot of

2330
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 2: people ask a lot of questions.

2331
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: About but how does signing bonus?

2332
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 3: Work so signing bonus whatever it could be divided so

2333
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 3: that say brought got of what it was, designing but

2334
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 3: maybe fifty million, dollars say.

2335
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,560
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy six million injur, guarantee.

2336
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy over his first four he.

2337
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Proceid sixty two percent of this money in the first three.

2338
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: Years so look at you see HOW i said four.

2339
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 3: Years, yeah so one hundred and seventy over first four

2340
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 3: that means there's only an additional what nine ten million

2341
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 3: dollars for that next so you could you would cut

2342
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 3: you know WHAT i?

2343
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah and part of that's playing games for THE cap.

2344
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: Two Probably i'm not A cap. Guy, yeah but, yeah

2345
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: usually they they divide the signing bonus By that's why

2346
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 1: they'll make big signing bonuses because they'll they can pro

2347
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 1: rate that and divide that over the length of year

2348
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: contract towards the. Cap, okay signing bonuses go against cap. Two,

2349
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: yeah it's it's. Less it's like. Less that's how they

2350
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: can make the money. Down that's why they'll they'll renegotiate

2351
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: and give guys a bunch of money in the signing

2352
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: bonus because then you can pro rate it throughout the

2353
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: duration of the. Contract, okay and then well let's go

2354
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 1: back to the way we were talking about signing. Bonus,

2355
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: yeah signing, bonus it's not like depending on. Team, okay

2356
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: say It's Rock parties fifty million dollars a sign they

2357
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: could divide that over three for the, owner you, know

2358
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: says so on signing day they'll give them twenty, million

2359
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 1: and then In october they can give them ten, million

2360
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: and then the next following year they can give them

2361
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: another Ten now you do that for tax, REASONINGS i don't.

2362
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: Know, yeah but they the owner can do that because

2363
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 3: sometimes they just don't want to give you all that

2364
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 3: money right.

2365
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 2: Away it's a lot of. Money it's a lot of

2366
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: money with and then so, functionally you sign a, contract

2367
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: you get your pro rated signing. Bonus maybe it's half

2368
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 2: or a third or. Whatever is that just a check

2369
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 2: or is that like going into your like Paces and

2370
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 2: how does that actually, do.

2371
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 1: So a lot of guys have direct. Deposit we didn't

2372
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 1: actually have that choice until like the third or fourth

2373
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 1: year of my, year really my second. Year we just

2374
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna check you out the. Cash you get a check

2375
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: that you'd have to, cash and if which is you,

2376
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: know if guys in cash a, check that means owners

2377
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: kept that money in that pot and they can earn

2378
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: interest on that.

2379
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 3: Bitch, Yeah so that's why you go to direct. Deposits

2380
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 3: you get that money right.

2381
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: Away so you're like rolling up your rookie, year rolling

2382
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: up with a. Check crazy thing is out of that

2383
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 1: twenty million that he's gonna, get you're gonna get that

2384
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: check and it's only going to be about twelve eleven

2385
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: taxes and. Taxes and then you got to pay the

2386
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: agent whatever his agent fee. Is usually three can be negotiated,

2387
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: down but it's usually three, percent so you, know it's

2388
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: a it's a.

2389
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Lot so that's how you get the signing. Bonus all

2390
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: this other, stuff roster bone is that's all.

2391
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Divides so then there could be other. Stuff you have

2392
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: a roster.

2393
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 3: Bonus that's another way of them to giving you a,

2394
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 3: million you, know during the, season or guaranteed two million five,

2395
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 3: million ten whatever that is they can give you through the.

2396
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 3: Season then they can give you the workout, bonus which

2397
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 3: is also guaranteed money in the guaranteed money, thing but

2398
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 3: that also you, know incentivizes you to be around the,

2399
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 3: facility going to be at the off.

2400
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: Season, uh you know all that.

2401
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Stuff so then what's in the game check game check

2402
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 1: is the additional salary that you have to be divided

2403
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 1: into set eighteen weeks and you get paid every first

2404
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: fifteenth and you don't get any additional money for, playoffs,

2405
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 1: right you do.

2406
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:56,879
Speaker 3: Get additional, money but it's it's it's technically of technically

2407
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 3: we're getting blown.

2408
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Out, yeah as, players because we're playing for.

2409
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,800
Speaker 3: Less everyone gets, say now you get an Additional so

2410
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 3: like WHEN i was playing you for the first, round

2411
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 3: you would get an additional like twenty, grand twenty five

2412
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 3: grand to the, winner twenty grand to the, loser and

2413
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 3: the next round you can get like an additional thirty.

2414
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 3: Grand but then like we would get the first round

2415
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 3: BY i have to do all the same amount of

2416
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 3: work and not get paid.

2417
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Because the buye you don't get. Paid you don't get.

2418
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 3: Paid during the buy you only get paid during the

2419
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: game and it was really twenty. Grand and at that

2420
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 3: TIME i was making like a hundred grand a game

2421
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 3: through my. Contract so you're putting the same amount of

2422
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 3: work for way less. Money and the league is benefiting

2423
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 3: crazy through the playoffs with the ratings and. Everything so

2424
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 3: how much like totally at the total you make if

2425
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,839
Speaker 3: you won The Super bowl be like one hundred and eighty, Grand.

2426
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: And that's if you don't have any of the, escalators

2427
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: any of The. Batman but that's just all new money

2428
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: coming from the.

2429
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 2: League the fifty third man on the roster makes that

2430
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 2: money if you go to the Super, bowl the fifty

2431
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 2: third and MAYBE i think even the practice, squad everyone

2432
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 2: and the everyone in the organization DOES i think so

2433
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 2: making a suit it's a big thing for it's.

2434
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 3: A big thing for like the trainers and the. Coaches it's.

2435
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 3: Huge it's. Great but like on on on the scale

2436
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 3: of like the.

2437
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Top dogs are taking huge pay cuts to.

2438
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 3: Play Tom brady usually gets two million dollars a fucking.

2439
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 3: Game yeah he's, working you, know wherever it, is you

2440
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 3: know WHAT i.

2441
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 2: Mean he's getting. Paid he get fifty million dollars a.

2442
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Year now he's gonna go play for twenty grand, thirty

2443
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 3: it's probably like fifty grand.

2444
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah but they're getting paid the same as the

2445
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 2: long snappers the, course the.

2446
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 3: Same as a long, snapper which it's additional. Money you

2447
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 3: never want to be you want to be. Thankful but

2448
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 3: you know the work you put. In if we're talking workplace,

2449
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 3: HERE i mean the stress levels are even, higher, right

2450
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 3: the work. Is you're putting in way more work during

2451
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 3: the playoffs because you're just that more much that much

2452
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:58,959
Speaker 3: more uh invested like, time everything, tightened motion.

2453
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 2: And the cost for commerce go way up to a

2454
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 2: lot more money being, generated a.

2455
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 1: Lot of money.

2456
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 3: Generated but you, know congratulations to Brock. Man that's cool

2457
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 3: seeing a seventh round guy get a big, payday regardless

2458
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 3: of what you think he deserves or. Doesn't as a former,

2459
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 3: player you always like seeing guys get, paid especially a

2460
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 3: guy that went his, route which you, KNOW i was

2461
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 3: a seventh round. Guy he's a seventh round. Guy now

2462
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 3: he's making fifty four million dollars.

2463
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: Year not, bad.

2464
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Not even a one, star not a zero star first pick.

2465
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: Overall you, Know.

2466
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm a story, guy like the story now is a

2467
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 3: team gonna be? Good don't, know don't. Know but if

2468
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 3: you think about. It for The, niners they'll have to

2469
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 3: eat a bunch of this for these next couple of,

2470
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 3: years which they're they're kind of rebuilding right. Now and

2471
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 3: if you look At brock's contract in two, years it's

2472
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 3: gonna be. Cheap it's kind of like The Daniel jones,

2473
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,959
Speaker 3: Shit like everyone's, Like daniel's making a thirty million, Dollars,

2474
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 3: well what the?

2475
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 2: Well all?

2476
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Right in two, years the next guy was making FIFTY.

2477
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 2: Yea the lessons. Learned if there's ever guy who needs

2478
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 2: to get paid real, money pay him as soon as you,

2479
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 2: can because it now instantly becomes.

2480
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: Value you, know he did take he didn't take the top,

2481
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: dog you know WHAT i? Mean, Yeah and you think

2482
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: About brock, party if you put yourself in his, position

2483
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, saying, like, Well Dak, prescott he's got

2484
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 1: one one playoff, win maybe. TWO i Think i'm taking

2485
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 1: a team to AN afc. Championship we've gone to a Super.

2486
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: Bowl we have playoff, wins you, Know and that's what

2487
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: you really judge on the. Quarterback how mean wins he?

2488
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 1: Got so you could see what he his side was

2489
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: arguing to get that, money and uh, two you got.

2490
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 3: Too you, know you could say the same thing for

2491
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 3: all the other big dog. Quarterbacks you, KNOW i think

2492
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 3: he's got more playoff wins In.

2493
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Burrow burrow did go to A Super, bowl so Did.

2494
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 2: Brock yeah, right you're.

2495
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Right you Know brock went to The Super, bowl right

2496
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: and He brock also went to A nfcam OR Nfc

2497
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 1: championship where he hurt his. Arm, Remember, yeah you, know

2498
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: so like, Bros brocks got Some So merritt when you

2499
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: when you're talking about winning games, now regardless of what

2500
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: you want to, say how the team's going to Be.

2501
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 2: Now do you think If purdy was a first round pick.

2502
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: Or you, know completely, different he gets that If party

2503
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 1: was a first round, pick he probably would have got

2504
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 1: sixty eight million.

2505
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 2: Dollars.

2506
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he's one of those contracts that sets the sets

2507
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 1: the new standard for.

2508
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:35,480
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah one last thing on, this BECAUSE i

2509
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 2: thought this was Great one time years. AGO i was

2510
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 2: at your house back In foxborough and you were like

2511
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 2: going through some like junk man and you just opened

2512
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 2: up like a check for like a couple hundred thousand

2513
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 2: dollars or. SOMETHING i think it was From. Jerseys what

2514
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 2: are some of the other ways that you get paid that.

2515
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Aren't Like dorsett, feels.

2516
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 3: There's player of, performance which is huge for guys that

2517
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 3: get like brought like set late round, guys undrafted, guys

2518
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 3: which they've changed it in this NEW cba collecting bargain.

2519
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Agreement but WHEN i was, there if you were a

2520
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 3: seventh round, guy you and you were getting more playing

2521
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 3: like there was like a formula on playing time and

2522
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 3: plays per game that you would make a lot more

2523
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 3: money than if you were a first round. Guy in

2524
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:24,080
Speaker 3: this pool of money.

2525
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 2: There's like coming from THE.

2526
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: Nfl, yeah coming from THE. NFL i forgot where it comes.

2527
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 3: From we got to probably hit Up Matthew slater on

2528
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 3: that because he's the former rep for THE, pa but, uh,

2529
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 3: yeah you get. Up there was a pool of money

2530
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 3: that they would have and it would it was a

2531
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 3: way to give guys, that you, know seventh round guy

2532
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 3: that was playing eighty percent of the snaps he could.

2533
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 3: TAKE i remember Like Devon bess when he was a,

2534
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 3: receiver he was making like two three million dollars off

2535
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 3: that player performance because he was undrafted and and he

2536
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 3: was bawling Out and it's.

2537
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 1: Upwards of a few million if you play a.

2538
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 3: Lot, yeah and, Yeah LIKE i don't know what it is,

2539
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 3: now but that's those were back WHEN i was. PLAYING

2540
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 3: i think it changed a.

2541
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: Little that was like a fund of something where they

2542
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 1: were pulling money in and they would distribute to the.

2543
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Players there's also other ways of earning money.

2544
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 2: Jersey.

2545
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 3: Sales like so when you sign up for THE, pa

2546
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 3: you're basically signing and giving away your your your name

2547
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 3: and likeness for the brand of.

2548
02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: Players so with that you get a. Check everyone gets

2549
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 1: a check for like ten grand for being In madden

2550
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: or whatever it was at that, time or five, grand

2551
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 1: and then anything that sold with your name on you

2552
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 1: get a percentage. Of so like that was after you,

2553
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 1: KNOW i had a huge jersey sale. Year they always

2554
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: give you like whatever it is the cents on the

2555
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: dollar that you get for. That it could be like

2556
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: a half a, cent but you, know you collect money,

2557
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 1: mugs whatever they, have pay your name, jerseys this, jersey

2558
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 1: any thing with your name that has, sold you do

2559
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: get to cut a baby sliver of. That and that's

2560
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: all through THE. Nflpa AND i still get. Checks, Really

2561
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 1: i'll get like eight cent checks because like so there

2562
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: was like a hundred something of mine or like something

2563
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: Sold i'll get like an eight cent chot from THE.

2564
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 2: Pa that's.

2565
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 1: Awesome it's like the actors getting residual. Checks that's. Awesome.

2566
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 2: Cool is there any any other things we missed from

2567
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 2: just like things the average fan wouldn't know where money

2568
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 2: is coming in from from a contract. PERSPECTIVE i mean.

2569
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: There's probably, More but why don't you guys ask us

2570
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: more questions detailed questions in the comments section and we

2571
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: can we can get into it. More hell, Yeah i'm

2572
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: not like just fucking brainy acts, smart BUT i just oh,

2573
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: yeah back in that, DAY i remember day is that,

2574
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 1: like you know who we should? Have we should Have

2575
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 1: we should bring In Matthew slater and do like a

2576
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 1: rules and regulation podcast for THE. NFL i love. That

2577
02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 1: let's let's do rules Because bill used to sit us

2578
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:04,000
Speaker 1: down like every year in training camp the first night

2579
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: of training get.

2580
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 2: But you go over all the. Rules nothing that you

2581
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 2: can light on fire in team.

2582
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 3: Hotels if anything lights on fire in the team hotel

2583
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 3: could be conduct. Detrimental it's basically explaining all the rules

2584
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 3: that could take away your. Money if you're fat and,

2585
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 3: overweight you, get you, get you.

2586
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 1: Get you, know you'd be like it's six hundred pounds per,

2587
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: day pound per day.

2588
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 3: Whatever it's probably like one thousand bucks. Now used to

2589
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 3: be WHEN i first got, it like four or three

2590
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 3: hundred and. Eighty then it got up to like six,

2591
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 3: hundred you. KNOW i the more money you, make the

2592
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 3: more they can. Take they could take your money through

2593
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 3: fines on you, know you, know uniform. INFRINGEMENT i used

2594
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 3: to get fined all the. Time if my my knee

2595
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 3: pads were higher and my skin was showing and my

2596
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 3: socks didn't go, up you would get fined for, that

2597
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 3: or certain pads you could get if you didn't have

2598
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 3: your thigh. PADS a certain WHEN i first, played you

2599
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 3: didn't have to have thighre knee, pads and they put

2600
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 3: that in where you get fined if you didn't have.

2601
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 3: THAT i didn't wear them for like my first two.

2602
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 3: Years you can get fined for the length of your

2603
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 3: Twel you can get fined for you, know other like

2604
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 3: NON nfl issued a tire on the.

2605
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Sideline technically you can get. Fined you.

2606
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 3: Know so if you're like promoting like your own brand

2607
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 3: that's not associated with THE, nfl you could get fined.

2608
02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 2: Like certain. Celebrations, fine, well we should save that for

2609
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 2: another one of these. Segments find me a fine one

2610
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 2: of these segments would be. GREAT i think it's a

2611
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 2: great segue, too to be, like, hey, fans audience, comment

2612
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 2: what detailed types of explanation of INSIDE nfl information would you'd?

2613
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 2: Like because this is a fun. SEGMENT i.

2614
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 3: Think so WHEN i WHEN i WHEN i scored that

2615
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 3: touchdown to break the record for The patriots over total punt,

2616
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 3: RETURNS i threw the ball into the, CROWD i hucked

2617
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 3: it up in, there AND i got fined like hell

2618
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 3: of money because you're not allowed to throw the ball

2619
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:58,920
Speaker 3: in the crowd because it could create a. Riot but

2620
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 3: if you hand the, ball it's, okay you can't but

2621
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 3: you can't hand the. Ball but you can't throw the.

2622
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: Ball but will they charge you for the cost of

2623
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: the duke if you hand them the? Ball? No oh

2624
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: yeah you Have, yeah you have to pay for the

2625
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 1: duke anytime you take the. DUKE i think that's that's

2626
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: con that's payroll a. Duct so like everything is payroll

2627
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 1: a duckt nothing is. Free by the, way did you

2628
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: have to pay for the those? Tickets payroll a? Duct

2629
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: if you broke something in the in the, gut if

2630
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 1: you broke the weight, room payroll a, duct if you

2631
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: broke some payroll the, duck they take that money as

2632
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: much as they give.

2633
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 2: It did you give him the jerseys the way you

2634
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 2: get paid for?

2635
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 3: That did you pay for the anytime you give jersey?

2636
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 3: Swap you're paying like four hundred, dollars three hundred fifty

2637
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 3: dollars for?

2638
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 2: That what about like a sentimental, ball like a touchdown

2639
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 2: that you keep they give me THAT i don't.

2640
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: PAY i don't, know but it wouldn't surprise me if

2641
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 1: it's payroll a. Duct, no is that just your organization

2642
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: or is THAT i don't. Know, YEAH i don't have

2643
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: to ask that when we have some other. People, yeah

2644
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: BUT i threw it up in the. CROWD i remember

2645
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: you used to have to go to these hearings and

2646
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 1: marsh And Merton hanks was always a fucking fine hearing

2647
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: AND i used to try to butter them up every

2648
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: single time came and talked to me in high. School

2649
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 1: loved his little neck thing he used to, do, right you,

2650
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: know he's a Fucking San francisco forty nine.

2651
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 3: Er i'd always butter him up every. Time he would

2652
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 3: never fucking reduce my. MONEY i think he reduced it.

2653
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 1: Once my, agent we got that one reduced because it

2654
02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:15,360
Speaker 1: was like military service day and my agent, dudes he's,

2655
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 1: like you, Know joy was really thrown it to A

2656
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 1: navy guy that he saw and it's like literally like

2657
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 1: two hundred yards.

2658
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 2: Up, well they saw your college, tape so they knew

2659
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't going.

2660
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: There but we did get that, reduced so thank.

2661
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 2: You oh, yeah all, right well that was that was

2662
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:33,960
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2663
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