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Speaker 6: And right and right now, I have to introduce one
Speaker 6: of the most phenomenon groups in history.
Speaker 1: Not in just hip hop hip hop, but in history.
Speaker 6: These guys made countless hits repeatedly, back to back. And
Speaker 6: when I heard DJ Hollot the other day say that
Speaker 6: he was the Anthem King, I had to test her. Sorry,
Speaker 6: but every record these brothers had that was a hit
Speaker 6: was an anthem, and I had to I had to say, like,
Speaker 6: you know, it wasn't no hate because you know, but
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, okay, you might be the second
Speaker 6: anthem King, But I had to I had to keep
Speaker 6: it real.
Speaker 1: I had to say, I think Naughty it was the
Speaker 1: first had them king.
Speaker 6: These brothers, just like me and Capone, went through problems,
Speaker 6: trials and tribulations, came back together and stuck it together
Speaker 6: through brothers. They out here right now on a New
Speaker 6: Year's Eve special. I'm sure they're doing something phenomena.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the time we dropped.
Speaker 4: This episode, they'll be already out.
Speaker 1: I think it's what's the nigga Clive Davis just took
Speaker 1: Pitt Bull's room in Prome one twelve. It was a
Speaker 1: little wild over there.
Speaker 6: But these brothers, these brothers have you know, stuck it
Speaker 6: out through time and they're still here. They're still relevant,
Speaker 6: they're still a part of what's going on, what's now.
Speaker 6: One of them was a phenomenal producer, produced R and B.
Speaker 6: The other two is phenomenal MC lyricists with a tribe
Speaker 6: coming back and doing their thing, and Daylight Soul coming
Speaker 6: back and doing they thing.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for a new Naughty, Naughty Naughty.
Speaker 6: Album, And right now, with no further ado, I would
Speaker 6: like to introduce some people that I look up to personally.
Speaker 7: Naughty, my motherfucking nature. Hold on before you make a car.
Speaker 7: It's not KG and Tresch. It's not Tretch and KG.
Speaker 7: It's not KG and Vinnie. It's not Vinnie and Tretch.
Speaker 5: It is all mother fucking three members, naughty fucking nature.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 6: I'm so much a fan of you guys. I had
Speaker 6: to go research, like a couple of interviews. I haven't
Speaker 6: seen interviews with all three of y'all in a minute,
Speaker 6: am I bugging?
Speaker 1: No, you're not. Okay, it's been a minute. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a moment.
Speaker 8: A lot of radio station don't have it. That's why
Speaker 8: we've been We ain't radio. We ain't radio, can't even
Speaker 8: come to New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get the station. So we wait outside the
Speaker 1: real here. Okay.
Speaker 6: So so so look, let me ask y'all because all
Speaker 6: of y'all from East Orange, correct.
Speaker 1: All three of y'all, But y'all are y'all from different
Speaker 1: parts of East Orange.
Speaker 9: Well, pretty much the same hood, the same hood as
Speaker 9: about the five block.
Speaker 1: Radius from each other.
Speaker 9: I'm from fifteenth Street, Kings from eighteenth Street, Trenches right
Speaker 9: across under the bridge, the Grove Street right there. But
Speaker 9: you can moon walk to each of my homes when
Speaker 9: we were.
Speaker 8: Three miles three square mile radius of the whole hood,
Speaker 8: different middle schools, everything else, but everybody was there. Funny story.
Speaker 8: I'm born in Nork, so a lot of my family's
Speaker 8: from Nork right there. Me and Redman, there was little
Speaker 8: homies that we hated each other just because I was
Speaker 8: from Eastrange and he was from a block over in Nork.
Speaker 8: No little we got cool. Me and red Man got
Speaker 8: cool because.
Speaker 1: We was a little ass in the hoods. The hoods, No,
Speaker 1: the hood was so close. Nork is the biggest city
Speaker 1: in Jersey.
Speaker 8: But after the riots and everything else in the sixties
Speaker 8: and anything else, a lot of people moved out of
Speaker 8: Nork so they either went to East Orange, westne Boom,
Speaker 8: everything else. But our old family is Jersey, the one
Speaker 8: of the smallest cities in there, but it was the
Speaker 8: most like ghetto city out of the smallest cities there
Speaker 8: at three block radius.
Speaker 1: So how did how so you guys knew each other
Speaker 1: growing up?
Speaker 8: High school and so yeah, like junior high school all
Speaker 8: that and anything, football, playing rams and then was in
Speaker 8: high school we met up.
Speaker 1: Venues the beat Box, so I knew then first we
Speaker 1: in high school, I would think he would be the
Speaker 1: one that.
Speaker 8: Used then and K grew up fifteenth Street and eighteenth
Speaker 8: Street keep we went to the same high school, but
Speaker 8: then I met him and then we used to just he's.
Speaker 9: We used to walk out in health class all the time.
Speaker 9: So and I used to break dance and the beatbox,
Speaker 9: so I would beat box. Actually our brother jabre Pepper's
Speaker 9: Michigan wolver Marines.
Speaker 1: They play in the night.
Speaker 9: But his father I used to break dance with his
Speaker 9: father's people to back breakdance. So after breakdance and I beatbox.
Speaker 9: But KG lived right across the street from I used
Speaker 9: to go beat.
Speaker 1: Box for K.
Speaker 9: And then in health class, Tretch he always had he
Speaker 9: was a fan of Freddy Krueger back in the.
Speaker 8: I guess I hand the long nails and every day
Speaker 8: Mad Long.
Speaker 1: Freddie. Every day this kid would.
Speaker 9: Come with new lyrics and health class. Instead of fucking
Speaker 9: around with health, he would spit new Barns to me
Speaker 9: every day. So I told K one day, like this
Speaker 9: kid in my health class is the truth? We all
Speaker 9: you know linked up did this talent show and that
Speaker 9: was it.
Speaker 1: It was the New State.
Speaker 6: Wait, so when y'all did this talent show that was
Speaker 6: as a group.
Speaker 1: All y'all was, yeah, well we did really a group
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we we just came together because I'm we were
Speaker 10: just coming together because I'm a year older than them.
Speaker 10: So it was my senior year in high school and
Speaker 10: they were having a talent show and like Vin said,
Speaker 10: I was DJing and I wanted to get in and
Speaker 10: do something.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, well.
Speaker 10: Dad, if you beatbox and I scratched, we're gonna need
Speaker 10: an m C. And then that's why he said he
Speaker 10: brought Tresh into it. So we just went in and
Speaker 10: we weren't even a group. I just scratched and we
Speaker 10: just we put together.
Speaker 6: We didn't have a name or nothing I need.
Speaker 1: With our new team.
Speaker 10: We were just practicing that we'd be up in like
Speaker 10: in my some porch up there, Like Vin said, I
Speaker 10: used to be across street so he would hear me
Speaker 10: practicing in the sun ports. So up there we were
Speaker 10: practiced for this talent show. And part of our routine
Speaker 10: scratched in the Beastie Boys, it's the news Style. So's
Speaker 10: my name.
Speaker 1: And he's like we needed it, like that day, what's
Speaker 1: his name? New Style, New Style.
Speaker 9: And that was after the Talent show a while. We
Speaker 9: killed the Talent Show and were like, yo, that whole
Speaker 9: ship kind of worked, and we started off with the
Speaker 9: new Style.
Speaker 1: Let's call ourselves a new Style. And let me tell
Speaker 1: you something else. This dude hip hop history.
Speaker 8: His family is from Queens, you know.
Speaker 1: Family.
Speaker 8: So we said we gotta go to the town show.
Speaker 8: We gotta we gotta have coordinating ship. Were the new
Speaker 8: style now? So he took us over shirt. We got
Speaker 8: the new Style jackets a classic, the shut Kings and
Speaker 8: boom so all without going on from I'm showing you
Speaker 8: to connect with anything?
Speaker 1: So who shut down New Style? Who said, let's we
Speaker 1: can't be new Style? Did you know what you know?
Speaker 1: We shut that? That was actually shot him and Chris
Speaker 1: lighty oh shot him flavoring Chris. Let's get in this story.
Speaker 8: We ended up being on sugar Hill Gang Records, which
Speaker 8: was Bone on Me with New Style.
Speaker 9: So y'all see that picture of us with the New
Speaker 9: Style k had the hot top fade that was signed.
Speaker 8: Sugar Hill Records, Bone on Me, So we actually on
Speaker 8: Bone on Me. After all, the sugar Hill artists sued
Speaker 8: him and got.
Speaker 1: Off the label. They had another label.
Speaker 8: To considered me So anyway, we signed a contract with
Speaker 8: our calling lawyers.
Speaker 1: We souped the sugar Hill game and sign and under age,
Speaker 1: got robber.
Speaker 8: So and a good thing that happened at my homie
Speaker 8: Move Brown, Big Move Brown.
Speaker 1: He had the.
Speaker 8: Quantum and anything else we had to get off the contract.
Speaker 8: So we was riding down Route four to t Nack
Speaker 8: Technos and everything up in there. We're gonna make these
Speaker 8: niggas sign us off on the knapin watch sugar Hill.
Speaker 1: You motherfucking right. We caught an accident.
Speaker 8: I had all the guns everything up in here, said
Speaker 8: he you tight, I ain't got no license. The police
Speaker 8: about to come. We got these bags and guns anything else.
Speaker 8: I said, well you go that way, I'll take these
Speaker 8: ships and I'll.
Speaker 1: Ran the fuck away and left.
Speaker 8: We was gonna get our ship released like that, and
Speaker 8: it was a god blessing that we didn't, because we
Speaker 8: was gonna do some real Nancy ship to get our release.
Speaker 8: But when we came, we was like, yo, how we
Speaker 8: got a flavor on the tried our boom boom patchy
Speaker 8: rest in.
Speaker 1: Peace that you got changed the name because no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no. See what happened is like when we were
Speaker 1: New Style we got.
Speaker 10: We got with Flavy Unit and they and we were
Speaker 10: actually we were doing talent shows and all that.
Speaker 1: So everybody around the hood.
Speaker 10: All through Jersey and all that, we had already started
Speaker 10: building a name. Everybody knew they were doing talent shows
Speaker 10: and we were coming there and they would have the crowd,
Speaker 10: they wouldn't let the crowds judge it, and we would
Speaker 10: win every time. So then they started feeling like we
Speaker 10: were coming with our own built in crowds, so they
Speaker 10: changed and started bringing celebrities and like bids and some
Speaker 10: different people, and we still kept winning. So we were
Speaker 10: just like, man, we got to start spreading this out
Speaker 10: and start.
Speaker 1: Getting real with it. Through that whole thing.
Speaker 10: Flavy Union forty five King Tretches already dabbing over there
Speaker 10: with them.
Speaker 1: They were like, yo, what's up with this group?
Speaker 10: New Style And at the time they had Flave Union MC's,
Speaker 10: but they didn't have the management company at the time,
Speaker 10: so they were just starting the management of Flavy Union management.
Speaker 10: Shat Kim and Latifah were starting that okay, and they
Speaker 10: wanted to get some some new groups to sign and
Speaker 10: we were one of the first Jersey, especially from Jersey
Speaker 10: and they bought a Patchy over to us, and Patchy
Speaker 10: Co signed us and then we do a We threw
Speaker 10: a party for ourselves at UPS the college out there
Speaker 10: in Jersey, and we invited them over and they came
Speaker 10: and saw us performed and they loved what they saw.
Speaker 10: So then they took us on from there and they
Speaker 10: we started, you know, working on stuff and doing stuff.
Speaker 10: They started shopping our demo. We had most of our
Speaker 10: records even recorded. We had opp.
Speaker 1: Already on there. Prior to shopping your demo, you already recorded.
Speaker 1: We went to before you got signed.
Speaker 9: Was out in the block, man, he was out years old.
Speaker 8: It ain't even come out after this.
Speaker 1: So but how did that name Naughty by Nature? That's
Speaker 1: what I'm didn't treat I'm saying.
Speaker 10: So so every all that all that were dabbling out,
Speaker 10: we were doing whatever we had to do. So we're
Speaker 10: in the studio, we recorded our demo, we had everything
Speaker 10: we was. We had like you said, go to Shirt Kings.
Speaker 10: We did all that stuff, were building it up, building
Speaker 10: it up, doing the ground, doing the grind. And we
Speaker 10: actually we even had shopped our demo with Tommy Boy
Speaker 10: before a flavor unit. And they turned us down the
Speaker 10: same exact demo now opp all that on. It went
Speaker 10: through Flavor un but once we got the politics behind us. Actually,
Speaker 10: Tommy Boy never even signed us. Warner Brother signed us.
Speaker 10: Benny Badena signed us to Warner Bro.
Speaker 8: Stories now how it went from Nordy by nature and
Speaker 8: because we didn't get to the yard, No, you went
Speaker 8: past when we won the brothers signed and ship and
Speaker 8: I tell how we went from new style, hot top
Speaker 8: phades and all of the we had the biggest drug
Speaker 8: blocking church. Because he's always the old man Dave resting
Speaker 8: peace up there.
Speaker 1: It's like, why you always talk to the old man
Speaker 1: over there? Man like you always talk.
Speaker 8: With the old I'm like, you don't know the jewels
Speaker 8: that they have you, nigga, I'm over here looking. Old
Speaker 8: man Day told me one time he got Lais out,
Speaker 8: he was in the water all that can.
Speaker 1: He said, let me tell you, little son same.
Speaker 8: I don't know who exactly, but there's somebody on this
Speaker 8: motherfucking block is probably want them old bitches over there.
Speaker 1: Just saying what coach y'all got on? And they ain't
Speaker 1: till me she went the fed.
Speaker 8: When the cops come to DTS come, you know, they
Speaker 8: go to y'all and roll.
Speaker 1: Right up in the alley. It's one of the mold bitches,
Speaker 1: and shut you up. The shit from New Style to Norse.
Speaker 1: Shut up.
Speaker 8: All the motherfucking the phase and trying to say how
Speaker 8: we was clean looking and we was fresh the late eighties.
Speaker 1: You know you had to be fresh.
Speaker 8: We had the valleys, the Swede suits, gold Nugget Nigga,
Speaker 8: the Gucci Lynx, the motherfucking real gold. Now from Canal Street,
Speaker 8: eighteenth Street. Old man sitting I said, Yo, ain'tbody having
Speaker 8: a meeting called them mind? He said, Yo, somebody ain't
Speaker 8: here saying what we got, knowing we are from.
Speaker 1: This fucking day on. Yo, you didn't get this chain off.
Speaker 1: You were taking a little yo.
Speaker 8: No, everybody all black, everybody dirtiest fuck fifteenth Street down there,
Speaker 8: all of them they had benses. They was looking like
Speaker 8: waiting full all the heat on them. Everything else. We
Speaker 8: was dirty. That's when the phase turned, the break. Everybody
Speaker 8: came in black, grandmama's kids, the DJ's roll around, what
Speaker 8: they got on, all black ac motherfuckers. And because you're
Speaker 8: putting strollers in the baby all black, like everybody all black.
Speaker 8: I go up to the College Dollar. They're like, oh,
Speaker 8: that's a foe block from they reading everybody else all
Speaker 8: the fuck around us. So that's when the Blake and
Speaker 8: we had a song from New Style and it was
Speaker 8: like I was just looking to titles.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, we need a name.
Speaker 8: Fuck now Style, I say eighties when we were and
Speaker 8: the name won our songs was Naughty by Nature. Nought
Speaker 8: by Nature was the name of a News Style that
Speaker 8: I didn't even know I was gonna be here, hand
Speaker 8: him that's what's.
Speaker 1: Up right now. It was the name of the song.
Speaker 1: That's when we were New Style, we had a song
Speaker 1: called Naughty by Nature.
Speaker 9: So when we got the Flavor Unit, Flavor Unit was like,
Speaker 9: all right, y'all the News Style and y'all signed to
Speaker 9: this whole sugar Hill label.
Speaker 1: We got dead all of that, so we clear, what's
Speaker 1: that name?
Speaker 8: Tommy Boy had to go because we ain't tell Tommy
Speaker 8: Boy that we was on contract over there.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it brought them up.
Speaker 9: Crazy thing about this back then, right, and this is
Speaker 9: what's crazy about the evolution of you know, the hip
Speaker 9: hop executive ship. We used to be on the block.
Speaker 9: So when it was time to change from New style
Speaker 9: of Naughty by Nature. When we was first picturing the
Speaker 9: name Naughty by Nature to shot him and they.
Speaker 1: Said it's too long. They was like it too long.
Speaker 1: It's whatever, it was too long.
Speaker 9: You know who is there with him, Chris like we
Speaker 9: had shot him from Flavor Unit, Chris Lighty and Jimmy Henchman.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys were on the in.
Speaker 10: That that in that truck and.
Speaker 1: Nobody on the block. He's like, man, it is just
Speaker 1: anybody all black, just come out on my mother. Everybody
Speaker 1: old the fuck up? Where's the group? They said, this
Speaker 1: is them.
Speaker 8: Three niggas were very nigga, seventy deep rolling the clubs.
Speaker 8: Nigga and we said we were from Jersey and motherfucker spots.
Speaker 1: We get motherfucking bood. We said we got bood.
Speaker 8: One time, nigga were going to New York seventy eighty
Speaker 8: fucking deep.
Speaker 1: Ever you had back then, you know you're talking to
Speaker 1: New y was they were so deep.
Speaker 8: There's robbin oone niggas nigga wee chelse God damn it.
Speaker 6: So you said that you did the actual O P
Speaker 6: P record Prime to the That was like them, like
Speaker 6: everything is going to be all right little song off
Speaker 6: the first album, like Romo Shine on.
Speaker 1: The songs fro this was it say something all right?
Speaker 1: Was done when we were working. That was done when
Speaker 1: we was seven.
Speaker 8: I was fucking this broad my first puzzy I had
Speaker 8: in the park and there was this other.
Speaker 1: Nigga bitch that I ain't like. It was just you know,
Speaker 1: I me and I was like a person. It ain't
Speaker 1: come like all of them fast.
Speaker 8: I got my first rally park in Balley Park, and
Speaker 8: Rally Park I.
Speaker 1: L e y. I was homeless. I was sleeping there
Speaker 1: hustling all night.
Speaker 8: A thing he's doing up to him and I got
Speaker 8: my first busy pussy up in there and it was
Speaker 8: this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I was never fun. It was like sisters.
Speaker 8: And then he was all night, little dirty ass nigga
Speaker 8: Bumbo Bo. You know the his fresh I had the
Speaker 8: braids on Laddy and he's sleeping the park nigga. This motherfucker,
Speaker 8: he just can't come by y'all. Fuck this bitch in
Speaker 8: the bar in the It was like O P P
Speaker 8: and Move Brown that were talking about before.
Speaker 1: He was always said Yo, I'm down with O PM.
Speaker 8: And then he made up with other people's money's money
Speaker 8: because he was like the big homy, Yeah, I'm down
Speaker 8: with over here.
Speaker 1: So we always laughed and then Ben's.
Speaker 8: Like back and we always back and we come back here.
Speaker 8: Ben's like, well, I'm down with O p P. He said,
Speaker 8: what's that? Other people pussy reality?
Speaker 11: And I.
Speaker 1: Heard, I said what you and Rial? You had to hook? No?
Speaker 1: He said that, he said song.
Speaker 8: But I had a vertue already about fucking this nigga
Speaker 8: bitch that was missing me and ship everything else that
Speaker 8: was And I said, oh, let make for the good yo.
Speaker 8: That song with like ten years. Motherfucker boy. They even
Speaker 8: knew what it mean because they would have never played it.
Speaker 8: It was babies is making making that record.
Speaker 10: Like we were sitting in on Eighteenth Street in my
Speaker 10: bedroom and I had there was bump beds in there,
Speaker 10: and I remember Track sitting there with his arm on
Speaker 10: the top of the bump bed with it and just
Speaker 10: with the notebook up there and saying it to me.
Speaker 1: And I just remember that day. I just like, dang,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. You knew it was gonna be a hit?
Speaker 12: I did.
Speaker 1: I just I just thought it.
Speaker 6: Because at that time you had never like you probably
Speaker 6: made hit records, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Talking about I didn't make his records.
Speaker 4: Record, but it wasn't came out yeah right.
Speaker 1: I just was like.
Speaker 2: I was like that because it wasn't that the first
Speaker 2: hip hop record that MTV broke, like really really broke.
Speaker 8: Well, it really got behind it be because.
Speaker 1: I'm a TV.
Speaker 8: I never I'll never tell old m t V bro
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give my mother fucking for five right alert
Speaker 8: runs the show run d m C rock Box walked
Speaker 8: this way and opened that fucking ship for hip hop.
Speaker 1: Dn't break the record even, man, fuck that what you
Speaker 1: said we opened the door and.
Speaker 8: Say that song that we got that to. Man, I
Speaker 8: know what you say over got song for the mask.
Speaker 8: You talking about a record that m t V did
Speaker 8: a real.
Speaker 1: Did you tell the.
Speaker 13: Real fucking story?
Speaker 1: Nigga? What made that ship land them round up?
Speaker 3: I ain't.
Speaker 1: These mother fucker got damn.
Speaker 8: I ain't got charges, nigga, Nigga, I'm gonna go d listen, man,
Speaker 8: what turned this ship around was video juke box. We
Speaker 8: changed the whole ship, like anytime you fall in the
Speaker 8: video play KPP played twenty.
Speaker 1: Four hours all day.
Speaker 8: They said we gotta change and that was based out
Speaker 8: here I'm like, damn man, every time you come.
Speaker 1: Man, Ralph is the o G. He played our ship
Speaker 1: before we played Noo style Ship. I mean, but the.
Speaker 8: Video juke box when you paid ninety nine cents or
Speaker 8: whatever to see the video all day, it was twenty
Speaker 8: four hours a fucking day, right, Yo, they had to
Speaker 8: change the format, Like wait a minute, man, these motherfuckers
Speaker 8: is getting every play we got. MTV jumped in Yo,
Speaker 8: MTV had to end Fab five Freddy Doctor Dray Love
Speaker 8: Yo on TV rep Down with MTV on TV red
Speaker 8: when You're TV raps came out that we got anybody
Speaker 8: were doing the spring breaks where they usually one try.
Speaker 1: Called quest buston you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: So with them opening the doors for us, it was
Speaker 8: like when we came in he was a genius where
Speaker 8: he just had the substitution tracking and put up a
Speaker 8: B C J. We was like, hell, are we gonna
Speaker 8: clear this? And it's Warner Butter. But then he was like, well,
Speaker 8: you probably just won't have no production. You have writers
Speaker 8: but one hundred percent publishing and gonna go to the
Speaker 8: Jackson FB And we.
Speaker 1: Said yes, yes, the Jackson always thought clear.
Speaker 14: That took a lot of you.
Speaker 1: Know how Premier Premier.
Speaker 8: At we will still be selling dope.
Speaker 1: We wasn't getting.
Speaker 8: Hip hop paray because Kate went on, everybody.
Speaker 1: Tell you let me your brothers.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of platforms out there where.
Speaker 1: The people interview new artists.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of platforms where artists can get broken
Speaker 6: off of these platforms.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I looked at me and my partner. I looked at
Speaker 6: inside the NBA, and we've seen you know, that's that's
Speaker 6: Elliott Wilson, Train.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. It's a hated guy train Lloyd
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 8: We looked at Jersey, we looked at that listen to
Speaker 8: worried about.
Speaker 1: Them all three listen.
Speaker 8: So we looked at We looked at inside the NBA
Speaker 8: thirty Boys, and we said, Charles Barkley.
Speaker 6: We seen Shaquille O'Neill, and we seen my my brother
Speaker 6: from Left Rock City, Kenny Smith, and we said, damn,
Speaker 6: they ain't a platform for hip hop to do that right.
Speaker 1: But not only that, even with them, they will.
Speaker 6: Interview new artists. This platform is to is to continue
Speaker 6: to salute our legends when they give them fly. We
Speaker 6: want to get in trees when they can't hell them exactly.
Speaker 8: Know what I'm saying, because because you know why, so
Speaker 8: many of.
Speaker 6: Us, when it comes to a certain time in our life,
Speaker 6: so many people want to write you off.
Speaker 1: We got five years in the game, ten years in
Speaker 1: the game. You can't do it again.
Speaker 6: You got fifteen, twenty years, and they just always want
Speaker 6: to write us off. I want this to be a
Speaker 6: platform that are artists, are legends can always come on
Speaker 6: and we can salute them and praise them exactly, and
Speaker 6: we don't ridicule people. And we don't talk about if
Speaker 6: you got caught with this chicken on thirteen.
Speaker 1: We don't do that. Got ship what we're doing, so you.
Speaker 6: Know that tonight we are saluting by day homegirl with
Speaker 6: the glasses please choll out.
Speaker 1: We hear you alive.
Speaker 8: I can't take you nowhere, I take you everywhere.
Speaker 1: So hip, that's right. I think.
Speaker 9: I think the thing is what you guys are doing here,
Speaker 9: and and you know, you create a platform where cats
Speaker 9: like us could come through. Man, people need to understand
Speaker 9: about longevity, you know, even DJs and cs longevity, creativity,
Speaker 9: brand management.
Speaker 6: But a lot of people don't make is disposable nowadays.
Speaker 6: And I want to be the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 6: Will continue what you said.
Speaker 9: Well, the thing is is like, look, we're just coming
Speaker 9: from rehearsals with a cat like Rob Base. It takes
Speaker 9: two shouting out New York. That record came out in
Speaker 9: the eighties.
Speaker 8: Man and Cats looking Rob Based, I mean, think, yo,
Speaker 8: he don't work, He not eating.
Speaker 1: Touring.
Speaker 9: He's grossing millions of dollars of years and just touring alone,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean? So the thing yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: but look, this is the thing about that rent artists.
Speaker 9: We out here, man, the plays of them out here
Speaker 9: were eating. We're on this package right now. It's called
Speaker 9: I Love the Nineties Tour. Right So Salt and Pepper
Speaker 9: and Vanilla Ice like cats said people, Vanilla Ice, you're
Speaker 9: not thinking about this cat. The reality is is that
Speaker 9: Salt and Pepper and Vanilla Ice just headlined a tour
Speaker 9: by themselves all arenas and amphitheaters, one hundred and ten dates,
Speaker 9: manout legends, they.
Speaker 1: Sold, they sold.
Speaker 9: There's six hundred thousand tickets, six hundred thousand tickets. Only
Speaker 9: six hundred thousand tickets sold in twenty seventeen. So this
Speaker 9: is what we about to re up on in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 9: It's two legs of this joint.
Speaker 1: And now.
Speaker 6: Let's also just big up other legends that drop music nowadays,
Speaker 6: because it seems like the music is coming back to
Speaker 6: the realness, and we have to salute people like Daylight
Speaker 6: Soul who hit number one right independent, and then you
Speaker 6: gotta also turn around and also salute trip Core Quest
Speaker 6: for doing not only a phenomenal album that sounds like
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety now exactly like it sounds like what's happening now,
Speaker 6: but it sounded like nineteen It's not like our ship
Speaker 6: because every time we describe real hip hop, people will say,
Speaker 6: that's that ninety shit, and I think.
Speaker 8: That's agism, the ages translations.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 8: We got these radio stations and program directors. Man, they'll
Speaker 8: let you after thirty in hip hop, like you retire,
Speaker 8: You gotta retire.
Speaker 1: Like you know the dads like you ain't got it
Speaker 1: no more.
Speaker 8: And it's the whole thing instead of a mixture and
Speaker 8: everything else.
Speaker 1: When you chop off the head of the eldest the
Speaker 1: young roue wow.
Speaker 6: Exactly like your cargo like that just in the music
Speaker 6: is opinion, and they locked up all of these these
Speaker 6: big so I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Sorry, trust you are exactly right. Because it's like the
Speaker 1: Animal and the Kingdom. When you see the elephants and
Speaker 1: anything else, or the or the big bulls, they kill
Speaker 1: them for the tusk. The bulls.
Speaker 8: The little ones run wild because they ain't got the mail.
Speaker 8: They don't listen to the moms. It's the same thing
Speaker 8: when you take the head off of hip hop, you
Speaker 8: kill the culture and then the young ones is running
Speaker 8: wild and they ain't talking about nothing because they just
Speaker 8: about the paper.
Speaker 1: Instead of the culture.
Speaker 8: So when the program directors don't have a mixture, used
Speaker 8: to be time when you go to West Coast, you're
Speaker 8: here seventy percent West Coast and music specting with everybody else.
Speaker 1: They you're here Liverpool, East.
Speaker 8: Coast, you're here seventy Yeah. Look you know where you're at.
Speaker 8: You turn on the radio. Now everywhere you're turning the radio,
Speaker 8: you think you down south and they game boom boom.
Speaker 8: Your cousins become corporate and all those radio stations on side.
Speaker 1: Of the translation all start and checks so they have more.
Speaker 1: They have one radio playlist, that one.
Speaker 10: Playlist that spread across the bars stations. So matter what
Speaker 10: city is the exact same form, exactly exact same format
Speaker 10: of cosations, gifts and ships started playing all the ship
Speaker 10: the same to sound, and.
Speaker 1: Then that's syndicated as well.
Speaker 10: Not only are they playing the same records, they sound
Speaker 10: the same.
Speaker 1: You don't have nobody that's homegrown truth.
Speaker 9: But listen, that's the beauty of the day's technology and tools.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 9: I'm not the guy that plays the old school game
Speaker 9: and say record to the labels and radio stations. You
Speaker 9: have the Internet, now, you have podcasts, you have social media,
Speaker 9: and the reality is is that.
Speaker 1: The labels they did the work for us. You know
Speaker 1: they they did the work alive, they did with.
Speaker 8: Us up in there with snakes and retch dropping them off,
Speaker 8: having releases on Napkins.
Speaker 1: Translation, so what do you you have now is what.
Speaker 9: You can do with you? You can do it all yourself,
Speaker 9: would lose a draw. They still play our catalog every day.
Speaker 9: So it's not about what's playing on today's nine to
Speaker 9: five radio.
Speaker 8: You got satellite radio, you got you gonna director.
Speaker 1: When you have this type of and you get y'all
Speaker 1: putting this.
Speaker 8: Message out is everything they go down and it's coming
Speaker 8: back to direct fans and everything.
Speaker 9: So it's do it yourself business. I like to play
Speaker 9: the sounds Pizteria joint. We built this drug with hand,
Speaker 9: and now the internet gives us a chance to just
Speaker 9: keep managing our brand by our hands, just fun and.
Speaker 1: Little my own do it yourself records.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, you could just post anything in the whole world.
Speaker 1: See so it's like it's so the labels you're like,
Speaker 1: fuck y'all.
Speaker 10: Now good, But the good thing gets too as well
Speaker 10: as that. We came before that whole three sixty times
Speaker 10: and all that other thing of all of that because
Speaker 10: exactly a lot a lot of us did, and that
Speaker 10: that allowed record companies to spend millions of dollars on
Speaker 10: our brand.
Speaker 1: Like you look at look.
Speaker 9: At out, can't ye.
Speaker 1: Than anything else you did your soul out, It stayed
Speaker 1: out there. It kept the whole hip hop like we're still.
Speaker 15: Here, Like look at like like they spend millions of
Speaker 15: dollars on on our on this that they don't they
Speaker 15: spend millions of dollars to help us build this and
Speaker 15: now we walked away with it.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't do that when you get that today.
Speaker 1: You can't do that today. And that's why you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna walk you in.
Speaker 9: If you want, I want to know what the podcasts,
Speaker 9: if you want your own liquor, if you want anything.
Speaker 1: You know what they called it translation gives them more.
Speaker 6: They call the three sixty deals no more. They call
Speaker 6: them the content deal. So it sounds a little bit
Speaker 6: more leanient like. But you know, Leo Combs was the
Speaker 6: person that invented the three exactly, and it stuck with
Speaker 6: him so so that but now other people are doing it,
Speaker 6: but they're doing it.
Speaker 1: You know. Still, you're gonna have one drink.
Speaker 9: They don't drinks for Unicateye that baby, We're good that
Speaker 9: you need one of those guys need a drop?
Speaker 1: Yeah, as mother.
Speaker 9: Like I d business manhatt and I'll understand because of
Speaker 9: the transition that happened in the record industry game, I
Speaker 9: could kind of understand the three sixty deal because you know,
Speaker 9: back in the day they got paid off of physical content.
Speaker 9: That was the albums, the CDs, the cassettes.
Speaker 6: That was tons of maazing tons of money.
Speaker 9: Tom Silberman told us, look, when I financed your album,
Speaker 9: I made y'all sold over two million copies of a cassette,
Speaker 9: A six dollar cassette. You sold over two million copies.
Speaker 9: That's twelve million dollars. I already recouped your album long
Speaker 9: before I even put it out.
Speaker 1: I was the rest of the money. That's why I
Speaker 1: had to go up in that translation month.
Speaker 9: So now, but that was because of you had albums,
Speaker 9: you had cassettes, you had CDs, you had physical content.
Speaker 1: Now with everything.
Speaker 9: Streaming and you know booth, once you go up on
Speaker 9: an Internet, it spreads like wildfire.
Speaker 1: So music is basically a lost leader.
Speaker 8: Right now, you're basically giving well back then, it's disposable
Speaker 8: back then. The way now this translation translation average one
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty shows for the past twenty five years,
Speaker 8: twenty five year anniversary for.
Speaker 1: By, Let's make some noise translation.
Speaker 8: He was saying, the hustle.
Speaker 6: Let me put it like this to you, because remember
Speaker 6: back in the days, a person would come out with
Speaker 6: an album and you would live with it. Like nobody
Speaker 6: really said ill Matic was a classic.
Speaker 1: When it came out that week. It was the.
Speaker 8: I don't know what you was that nowadays something something
Speaker 8: in linen and they threw us and left rack doers
Speaker 8: And he said, you hear it?
Speaker 1: I said, oh, ship, yeah, I was doing the first game. Motherfucker, let's.
Speaker 6: At But what I'm saying is, you know I'm saying
Speaker 6: this right now. People people don't do that. People don't
Speaker 6: analyze the album. People were just looked at it and
Speaker 6: people would be so much stands meaning there's so much
Speaker 6: fans these people that they just say the album is
Speaker 6: a classic and the album been out seventy two hours.
Speaker 9: Were even do that now because it's been more of
Speaker 9: a singles game the past decade. What the youngest about, right,
Speaker 9: The term you're talking about is back when we came up,
Speaker 9: when you created an album, it was called the Body
Speaker 9: of Work.
Speaker 1: And first it was an album.
Speaker 8: Every song out fastboarding, every song went on fast forward
Speaker 8: and the credit. You want to know.
Speaker 1: Hand.
Speaker 6: Now you get a digital album, mister Lee, welcome back.
Speaker 6: We missed you, my brother.
Speaker 9: You know, I gotta chose because when we talk about albums, right,
Speaker 9: we talk about the skits that everything and r P
Speaker 9: to our brother Ricky Harris, the comedian, Oh that's rights hit.
Speaker 9: You know, skits with depth row and all of those cats. Man,
Speaker 9: So you got to big up Ricky Harris.
Speaker 6: We've just had we just had TK conklet on here
Speaker 6: but see that that's the difference from our era. Like
Speaker 6: I remember about maybe four four or five years ago,
Speaker 6: I just wanted to shop an album because I always
Speaker 6: you know, you know, created our own music and we
Speaker 6: make it and then we shop it from the beginning.
Speaker 6: So I had went and this is like four four
Speaker 6: or five years ago, and I went to a company
Speaker 6: and they offered me a good deal.
Speaker 1: But when I sat down with them, they said play
Speaker 1: me this.
Speaker 6: And I played it, and they play play me this,
Speaker 6: and I played it and they was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 6: we'll make the deal.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't want to hear the
Speaker 1: b sides, right, you.
Speaker 6: Don't want to hear the belly, You don't want to
Speaker 6: hear the gum under the table.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear you know.
Speaker 3: My fingernails off of my big hoes, And like that's
Speaker 3: the whole what is it called a body.
Speaker 1: Translation? They only wanted to they heard.
Speaker 8: Me, no institutionalized right, they had you at hello, yeah,
Speaker 8: oh come on, said they gave me.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 9: I think right now, wagging, I think, tell you what
Speaker 9: you guys are doing, Norwy. Even back then four years ago,
Speaker 9: when you were shopping that demo, you may not have
Speaker 9: known the importance of your brand until you do the podcast.
Speaker 9: You may not have realized how many motherfuckers out there
Speaker 9: love you because you're still shopping the demo instead of
Speaker 9: told straight with the middle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6: Then what it was was, I had this so much
Speaker 6: project independent, and I'll start spending so much my mom
Speaker 6: my own money, fifteen thousand at a time, fifty thousand
Speaker 6: at a time, seventy five thousand.
Speaker 1: At a time.
Speaker 6: And what we just found out is that people this
Speaker 6: this Paola ship is being shut down in our city.
Speaker 6: And I got to applaud that. You understand I'm saying,
Speaker 6: But back then I didn't know that, and I'm independent,
Speaker 6: so I'm doing that. So I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 6: to spend my own money no more.
Speaker 1: Let me go back to A.
Speaker 6: I know this label don't exist an hour of st
Speaker 6: let me go back to an epic.
Speaker 1: Let me go back.
Speaker 6: And when I did that, but this wasn't that. This
Speaker 6: was one of them new labels, and they you know,
Speaker 6: I had a little Bulls at the time, not A.
Speaker 6: And then they said let me hear the single, and
Speaker 6: I played them and said, let me hear the number
Speaker 6: two and that was it.
Speaker 1: But I had a whole body of work. I want
Speaker 1: to play.
Speaker 6: I want to play I Love my Life for Carl Thomas,
Speaker 6: and you know that might not make the radio, but
Speaker 6: the streets is gonna fill that.
Speaker 8: The money, the money you hear what you said, the
Speaker 8: money you invested in there and motherfuckers don't know they
Speaker 8: invest in theyself. Anybody want to deal or big ship?
Speaker 8: When you did what it did all over? Yeah, I
Speaker 8: was known like you put it in the station boom,
Speaker 8: old work and then the radio station. Don't play us
Speaker 8: that when they call us for the motherfucking shows we
Speaker 8: charging triple.
Speaker 10: I mean, do you think them out? Even now you
Speaker 10: might have a day. You can't even go to a
Speaker 10: record label. Now, don't play charge and smalling.
Speaker 11: Just this no more like you got you have Tom yes,
Speaker 11: and you.
Speaker 16: Got to have following special You don't them because you
Speaker 16: don't need them to.
Speaker 6: So when when the artist does build his own following
Speaker 6: you now.
Speaker 10: Now now, no no, no, no, but if you if
Speaker 10: unless you want him and then they throwing something, they.
Speaker 1: Throw back of money at you and take you. Why
Speaker 1: not it's a vision. Hold on a bag. We're going ahead,
Speaker 1: these cousins.
Speaker 17: Crazy, anybody crazy you hey, nor My thing is le.
Speaker 9: Veteran artists. When you're creative with your brand once you're established.
Speaker 9: We're all musicians, we all have classic hip hop ship.
Speaker 9: Hip Hop is about the diverse hustle. It's not only
Speaker 9: the liquor. It's not only the podcast. Looking what fifty
Speaker 9: is doing with power with all of these guys went.
Speaker 9: It's about being creative with your brand. You create another lane.
Speaker 9: You don't need to go to a record label. You
Speaker 9: can come straight up the middle. Look at drink Champs
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 6: You can drop whatever the fu.
Speaker 1: So that e f N.
Speaker 9: I was down here with you. I love that documentary series.
Speaker 9: As a documentary series goes in search. And this is
Speaker 9: what people need to understand. Hip is a global culture.
Speaker 9: So what you're doing. I was here last time. I
Speaker 9: sat through it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: For you guys to travel the world and going in
Speaker 9: different pockets from Brazil to Vietnam and you was a
Speaker 9: war that was gonna die right just to see off
Speaker 9: hip hop cultures around the globe. Man, it's crazy, but
Speaker 9: it's being creative with your brand. It's being creative with
Speaker 9: your brand.
Speaker 6: Because the thing about this this thing about is this right.
Speaker 6: I can tell that everybody here at some point, if
Speaker 6: we wouldn't have got paid for what we love to do,
Speaker 6: we would have continued to do it.
Speaker 8: And right and if I would have continued like in
Speaker 8: the in the we would have been in some houses time.
Speaker 8: Motherfuckers up getting safe said at the time, Ship like
Speaker 8: some noise.
Speaker 1: Talking about him. Hit Bob says a whole lot of
Speaker 1: definitely say we had to do goddamn.
Speaker 6: Because and and that's and that's and that's what the
Speaker 6: love of hip hop is. Like the other day they
Speaker 6: had the Hottest m C lists. A lot of people
Speaker 6: were offended, and I understood why a lot of people
Speaker 6: were offended because but then when the way they break
Speaker 6: it down, they say the hottest m C list, well,
Speaker 6: we have to take em C out of it.
Speaker 18: You just got to say the artist, rappers, artists are
Speaker 18: the hottest.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: How they tricked the whole game. You can't have the
Speaker 8: top ten in hip hop. You gotta have like a
Speaker 8: top fifty. That's true, that's but you'll cut the whole
Speaker 8: lot of mothers channel side.
Speaker 1: You disrespected.
Speaker 19: I don't know, man lyrics.
Speaker 8: No one could take a love motherfuckers off the.
Speaker 1: Dome without him writing nothing down.
Speaker 8: They making bad like whats you talking about? And that
Speaker 8: I could bring to the motherfucker show. And and the
Speaker 8: thing is when you when you get.
Speaker 10: Into that is a never in the argument because it
Speaker 10: all depends on.
Speaker 1: How old you are, where you live at when you
Speaker 1: say hottest, just like your top five or.
Speaker 10: Top ten, when you get into any of that.
Speaker 1: Eighties went to where you grew you getting.
Speaker 10: Asked a guy from Cali, or expect a guy from
Speaker 10: Caleid to have the same list as a guy from
Speaker 10: New York.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something.
Speaker 6: Recently, a guy named Lil Yachty said he thought that
Speaker 6: Biggie Biggie was overrated. I absolutely didn't take no offense
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 1: I mean because I don't love big. Of course I
Speaker 1: love Big Bigy baby was even a little bit, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't RAI.
Speaker 6: It's like if you asked me, h if Joe Joe
Speaker 6: Joe Lewis was ill, And I'm gonna tell you yeah,
Speaker 6: from Joe Lewis's ill, from the replays I saw, I've
Speaker 6: never seen Joe Louis. I'm gonna tell you Floyd Mayweather
Speaker 6: is the greatest boxer I ever see period because it's
Speaker 6: the truth.
Speaker 1: But I doubt if you would have said he was overrated?
Speaker 1: Joe what.
Speaker 8: My big brother was the best I ever said, brother
Speaker 8: Mike Tyson.
Speaker 9: I think the problem if you're asking another current lyricists,
Speaker 9: he does his music, he does.
Speaker 1: Trick Lamar or or kidd you Lamar.
Speaker 8: Never said rapper or j Cole saying you know what,
Speaker 8: I think Biggie was overrated because now you looked at
Speaker 8: you know what, you're a lyricist and you know that
Speaker 8: you we said that part right there, that part bigger.
Speaker 1: What's my nigga laying the signal? Ship that bar? That's
Speaker 1: my nigga?
Speaker 8: Man, that's naricis have you got?
Speaker 1: Are you? You started following me on Twitter? I respect that, yo?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that, we know that. We know. Man.
Speaker 8: Listen, half of the hip and hip hop need a
Speaker 8: hit replacement.
Speaker 1: You know what you mean by luck the way you
Speaker 1: said it.
Speaker 8: Man, it was half of the hip and hip hop
Speaker 8: need a hip replacement because.
Speaker 1: Because we're trying to say that ship crippled. You understand.
Speaker 8: Fuck the world asked me for squad because I'm slack
Speaker 8: with them shots and to make your poplock the win
Speaker 8: at the moment the game and on top of the line.
Speaker 1: And tint that damn thing. Renny saying your video right
Speaker 1: from the getago, I want.
Speaker 8: To see a mini flow as t show Magga dirty
Speaker 8: city glow, can't stand the city show.
Speaker 1: Hark go that everything.
Speaker 8: Let your O commedion know we're smoking enemies like Chimney's
Speaker 8: Hallow Hennessy. The industry got four or five minimes the
Speaker 8: Homo stolen cars in new tags, boot bags and dow
Speaker 8: rash to trade one ring for two jags and if you.
Speaker 1: Ever hit him. Hip hop niggas like telling him that
Speaker 1: she throwing through the today through the sea to they
Speaker 1: just back. It's got that these niggas can't do this.
Speaker 1: Nigga said, can I ride for you? I was.
Speaker 8: I was with my mama, Baby, Mama's dropping off some
Speaker 8: money and ship in the Bronx, and he was.
Speaker 1: I was saying, do you know Mark, I said, if
Speaker 1: you can't say this, you can't.
Speaker 8: I don't even want that in the middle little bit.
Speaker 1: We know that men who didn't do that. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, I want mama. Yeah, you know what they
Speaker 1: want to say. They want to say already I'm on
Speaker 1: that lead. My jez means if you too out of battle,
Speaker 1: that's how they want to I'm more.
Speaker 9: Get tell them what this is what I caution, this
Speaker 9: is what I wish the nigga wore like a kits
Speaker 9: in cabinet.
Speaker 1: This was.
Speaker 8: Yo man, Yo, yo, Paul. They're gonna suck him up.
Speaker 8: He said, what we all, we all, we all must
Speaker 8: be careful. We all. I want you to hear this too.
Speaker 9: I think we all must be careful man, because one
Speaker 9: thing is for sure is things evolved. Music evolved, and
Speaker 9: we need to pay attention to hip hop music.
Speaker 1: What we know it asked of.
Speaker 8: People are complaining because they hear it sonically, lyrically evolving
Speaker 8: beyond what we grew up on. It's the same thing
Speaker 8: from bebop and Cap Callaway days.
Speaker 1: That was all young music saying hold on you.
Speaker 9: Fast forward to disco music or soul music, Teddy Pendograss
Speaker 9: and all of those disco music. Hip hop took out
Speaker 9: disco music to the whole genre. If you watch your
Speaker 9: unsung all of those guys that were hop back in
Speaker 9: the day and try to do it, by the time
Speaker 9: you try to redo it, it's evolved on to something else.
Speaker 9: That's why you feel like you don't have an ear
Speaker 9: well understand is that we need to cherish and really
Speaker 9: protect hip hop man because if it evolves off into
Speaker 9: something else.
Speaker 8: You're gonna be stucked like in the time War. And
Speaker 8: what he's saying in translation is, but if these motherfuckers
Speaker 8: would play a whole lot of different shit, because when
Speaker 8: you see it them out of that range, they got talent,
Speaker 8: but they think they gotta make it all and all
Speaker 8: of the ship you hear sound like one fucking song,
Speaker 8: all the seventies, eighty eight, nineties going all.
Speaker 1: That ship, any right ship sound different? Now they got
Speaker 1: them all sounding got to sound like that to be
Speaker 1: there doing sound like one fucking just guess what your new?
Speaker 9: Your next level of little yachty and those next guys
Speaker 9: are like, my music ain't even hip hop.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you were.
Speaker 2: Saying, johns Genres. The difference to hip hop is it's
Speaker 2: cannibalizing itself. Yeah, it's changing within its within the same John,
Speaker 2: And it's a lot of.
Speaker 9: Hot new music that don't But the thing is, well,
Speaker 9: like biology cancerself, he's definitely gonna get something different no
Speaker 9: matter what, even if it's cannibalizing itself.
Speaker 1: The eventuality is different. But that's why all of the
Speaker 1: ed M cats is, you know, blowing up.
Speaker 9: And a lot of hip hop DJs, y'all know that
Speaker 9: last five years, a lot of hip hop dj is
Speaker 9: just went straight edy IDM.
Speaker 1: But but they bailed.
Speaker 6: What Let me ask you a question or three of
Speaker 6: our question. But should hip hop be category garage like you.
Speaker 20: Know, subgenres within him like hip hop classic authentic? I mean,
Speaker 20: we do it to ourselves anyway. Some people backpack conscious.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 8: You cannot cage, you can't box in creativity.
Speaker 1: You can hip hop what it is and what it
Speaker 1: can't do. All you can do is walk to the bricks.
Speaker 1: It's like the payments. You're gonna have a little pairramid.
Speaker 9: Some of them fucking pyramids is so big, so many
Speaker 9: people worked on that pyramid that it's bigger than yours.
Speaker 9: It's bigger than yours. So now it's like easy creativity.
Speaker 9: You don't ever want to. You can put your own
Speaker 9: stuff out via humanity. It's yourself. You can be from
Speaker 9: Africa and go to Europe and combine cultures and come
Speaker 9: up with some fly ship to move global humanity. For
Speaker 9: stay over here because this culture is that, that's that, that's.
Speaker 1: What translations over here. That's why. This is why. Then
Speaker 1: you get into that is born from wherever it's born.
Speaker 9: So many people from so many different cultures, regions, ethnicities,
Speaker 9: they all participate love absorbed hip hop, and then when
Speaker 9: they try to regurgitate it age, your nigga shouldn't be rapping.
Speaker 8: White boys shouldn't be rapping. This guy shouldn't be rapping.
Speaker 1: That's not fly. I can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 8: It was a translation radio station translate for you. I mean,
Speaker 8: funck y'all. We do ourselves when we got shipped like
Speaker 8: out on what we gotta create. He must got got
Speaker 8: no gifts.
Speaker 1: We got gifts to you. It's this niggas translator. It
Speaker 1: ain't gifts, niggas translation nigga. I said, stiff, sorry ready,
Speaker 1: I'm just showing you how we bringing in the new year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you better be leaving somebody work. That's all jack. That
Speaker 1: is nigga, and that and that was besides you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm telling the your your side, give me whatever. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 6: If I got those, I'm framing those. I'm not wearing
Speaker 6: those I'm putting that ship, putting.
Speaker 1: In the kitchen before work. We bringing in the news.
Speaker 1: You know, she listens. I don't know.
Speaker 6: You know this only support rapper ship. So I look,
Speaker 6: look besides Ennessy, they're gonna cut it conventionally, but everybody
Speaker 6: else they either cut it check over their we wore around.
Speaker 6: We got I don't know why I didn't bring out
Speaker 6: the fin vodka.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about. We're gonna take another shot.
Speaker 1: It's not because security. You want security dress ready another
Speaker 1: ship got ok? This is why you pour it? Because
Speaker 1: I'm about to say drinking like.
Speaker 19: You want.
Speaker 1: Now some of us pour nigga get it. I'm getting
Speaker 1: me ship. Oh you're not taking a shot. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta take a shot of rock. You've been taking
Speaker 1: shout of rock. You've been on white. Don't switch it up.
Speaker 1: But that's that's a mix. That's a mixed drink. Here
Speaker 1: string blue. I gotta figure I got a big up
Speaker 1: Diddy did d rock in the sack? Yeah? By what
Speaker 1: you did a we did our.
Speaker 9: Twenty fifth verse th weet pool ship came through what
Speaker 9: you want to we doing, came to the.
Speaker 1: Cool like one of the Conkouns of course, like I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. One man, you know the brother pool. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's why you got some man. I used to live
Speaker 1: in West Yeah. Could you look at this mother? This
Speaker 1: looked like doing like a double shadow. Look at me
Speaker 1: talking me like you don't know what something?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: This ship you're the fun Let's go real quick. Told
Speaker 1: us how to be crazy. Fact that I told I
Speaker 1: told videos the last time.
Speaker 8: Y'all have to remember the craziest video remixers.
Speaker 1: A remix from the Miami the Miami Niggas. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: me and my crew, but it was Brownwick County.
Speaker 8: We showed on the license that ain't ain't that's your
Speaker 8: cargo that part.
Speaker 1: We are here, remember record. Remember that's the homie that
Speaker 1: used to roll a y'all back then, those reagions.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna tell you some funny ship. I'm in Japan, right,
Speaker 6: just like gotta be like.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine, two thousand, maybe two thousand and one in
Speaker 1: that area, though not anywhere above that. I meet this.
Speaker 1: I'm in Japan just randomly. Dude come up to me.
Speaker 1: I said, what you doing? He said, Michael Head, big bone.
Speaker 1: You definitely said big Bob. But he said what then
Speaker 1: what that man? Let me tell you what. You know
Speaker 1: what I said, I said that homie, like you seem
Speaker 1: like you from the town, like the way you talking
Speaker 1: your swag. He said, yeah, I came out with my
Speaker 1: nature a year ago and I never came back ever since.
Speaker 1: London's London.
Speaker 8: That was like that.
Speaker 1: I mean all over the world. When you trying to
Speaker 1: all over the world, you might not.
Speaker 11: He to me.
Speaker 1: That's how you know, yeah, you help lights can be that.
Speaker 9: One of my originals, one of our regional radio reps,
Speaker 9: she worked for Tommy Boy and she was the London regional.
Speaker 1: We took him out there. He bagged and knocked up
Speaker 1: and never think. Yes he came back. I know how
Speaker 1: that regional game. When I was out there, he ain't
Speaker 1: come back. He's to come, he said. He said that
Speaker 1: I want to spend a different type of money.
Speaker 8: Translation, this motherfucker would come back and get deported from
Speaker 8: the country he's come, which is the US, because this nigga,
Speaker 8: they like l p leave his ass in.
Speaker 1: London, but he's living in London over then he'll go back.
Speaker 1: I think. I think like you're talking like like nigga,
Speaker 1: you up from the hood, but you're not.
Speaker 6: But you know how you talking met somebody and somebody
Speaker 6: be like, yo, I'm down with these niggas, and then
Speaker 6: you don't want to call them or even call none
Speaker 6: of y'all know.
Speaker 1: I know he's the way he was holding. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you that you have ever called anyone of you.
Speaker 21: And you know what.
Speaker 6: I said, you know your relatives of my niggas was
Speaker 6: like yo, yo, I said, nah, he got I believe
Speaker 6: every word got niggas.
Speaker 1: Look, you know one of your relatives, relatives, every rage.
Speaker 8: But he touched yo. We all got that, Like I
Speaker 8: heard on this side. He got it on the wrong side.
Speaker 8: But he's like, yeah, I just wanted it over here
Speaker 8: like he like that, Like he just touched.
Speaker 1: Yeah he touched my man. Yeah man, big him up.
Speaker 1: LP l P. You a ready knew his story with
Speaker 1: the truth. I never asked. I've never seen y'all for
Speaker 1: ten years straight. I've never even brought it up because
Speaker 1: I just knew. When he said it to me, I
Speaker 1: was like, I believe you. You ain't got definitely, but listen, okay, KG,
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 6: Produced for the group, if you reduced for New Style,
Speaker 6: what was it called style style do you.
Speaker 1: Produce by Naughty by Nature?
Speaker 6: What makes you say, I'm gonna branch you out, start
Speaker 6: my own label and.
Speaker 1: Incorporate R and B because that's what it felt like
Speaker 1: your label was. It was a hustler, keep you group,
Speaker 1: I'm tired, He's gonna kick up. I Meanwiian see me
Speaker 1: listen man. Once we got on board, man, it was
Speaker 1: I was running. I was running. So what happened came
Speaker 1: to you and Arista because that's where your label was at.
Speaker 10: First, right, Yeah, Now Hotwn was the first group and
Speaker 10: I was.
Speaker 1: From there. That was on Motown, y'all.
Speaker 10: I mean I always loved R and B from the door,
Speaker 10: Like if even if you listen to like the first
Speaker 10: noughty My Nature album, like the way that it was
Speaker 10: done there was there was a lot of music, musical
Speaker 10: stuff on there. Even if you go back and listen
Speaker 10: to new style stuff. I mean I was sampling the Eagles,
Speaker 10: a bunch of different stuff like that. Like I always
Speaker 10: listened to a bunch of different records like that or
Speaker 10: off or.
Speaker 1: To the side. I mean, as a producer you have
Speaker 1: to anyway.
Speaker 10: But growing up especially a R and B and soul music,
Speaker 10: like my parents is originally from the South. And then
Speaker 10: that's what my whole Queens think came and they they
Speaker 10: got together and they grew up in Queens.
Speaker 1: So my family's from Jamaica. Had my father Jamaica Queens.
Speaker 1: Grew up in Jamaica Queens. Y'all. Yeah, southe and wos
Speaker 1: right there, Jamaica Queens. Man family face nobody like.
Speaker 10: Ya and Coach Shawn is out there y'all like and
Speaker 10: we you know we they like I said, they grew
Speaker 10: up in the South, So my grandparents was down there
Speaker 10: in some of my my father's like sisters, so we
Speaker 10: would go to the South always playing and my father
Speaker 10: always just played a bunch of soul mus that's my
Speaker 10: younger brother right there, Like he's saying, no, you know
Speaker 10: every record, every record, every movie, and that's all because
Speaker 10: I mean, because of growing up like with my father,
Speaker 10: Like that's all he did is the translation records a genius.
Speaker 1: Like that's why he about the fall Asleep. They beat
Speaker 1: us to the head growing up.
Speaker 10: So when I when I got the opportunity to do that, man,
Speaker 10: I just I wanted to do something different because I
Speaker 10: just said, you know what I want, I'm gonna switch
Speaker 10: I'm gonna flip the script and I'm gonna shock people
Speaker 10: because I'm gonna come left field. Everbody gonna expect me
Speaker 10: to do hip hop, but I'm gonna come and do
Speaker 10: something that's influence.
Speaker 1: Johnny Ground. What do you feel when you when you
Speaker 1: see next and then you see the guy? Why are
Speaker 1: you always lie? Did you want to see that guy?
Speaker 1: Keep it?
Speaker 12: You? Me?
Speaker 1: Me personally, man, I feel like it keeps it, keeps correct,
Speaker 1: you know, walk to the mail That's that I want
Speaker 1: to walk to the mailbody.
Speaker 10: And that's the thing, like like eventually my thing is
Speaker 10: just like man, we gotta put in the hard work
Speaker 10: now to just to put on our flip flops and
Speaker 10: walk in the mailbox.
Speaker 1: And I ain't gotta work no more.
Speaker 19: Like that.
Speaker 8: People like that, like people like White always and even
Speaker 8: these movies, like if.
Speaker 1: You look at a movie like Office, I'm like the
Speaker 1: Office Party.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna send you the check we got. We gotta
Speaker 9: flip walk to the man.
Speaker 1: Did I show y'all? Did I show y'all? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: Let's make some.
Speaker 6: Lightness because tres on my light up year gott you
Speaker 6: a limit.
Speaker 10: If you look at movies like Office Christmas party that
Speaker 10: just like basically took and remade. Like we was talking
Speaker 10: about earlier on OVP Office Christmas Party. We made that
Speaker 10: Icen's dad, like you're talking about like when they did
Speaker 10: down with m TV, they said, why you're always lying?
Speaker 10: Like that's what I say, Like, I'm not mad at
Speaker 10: stuff like that. That keeps it going, keeps your brand alive,
Speaker 10: It keeps your publishing flowing and going, and allows you
Speaker 10: to walk to that mailbox man.
Speaker 1: That's when his when his views, Like when that guy
Speaker 1: his views go up. What happens the publishing company call
Speaker 1: you or you.
Speaker 22: Are Like Recket spends the rigial record Internet, it makes him,
Speaker 22: it becomes on the car record everybody, Ye spend that
Speaker 22: money in the promotion.
Speaker 1: That's weird crazy about that, right?
Speaker 10: My daughter, my daughter, I have a daughter that's sixteen
Speaker 10: years old. So she was playing that record and viral
Speaker 10: video ray always lying.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I said, you know
Speaker 1: that record? I said, that's my record. She's like, she's
Speaker 1: like you out there. I say, yes, it is like
Speaker 1: that's NeXT's record, like the group Next. She was like really.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I played and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: give me, like like whatever.
Speaker 8: With that, but.
Speaker 10: About it, like you introduce, it introduces you to a
Speaker 10: whole different audience as well, so it allows you to
Speaker 10: bridge the gap like you said, and it becomes recurrent.
Speaker 1: So okay, So I'm gonna twist the turn even though
Speaker 1: I know Tretch you wasted.
Speaker 8: In a good was You know you're wasted, My brother,
Speaker 8: you know you're wasted. Well, I'm Obama Maram and he's
Speaker 8: giving your mama driver find Morano, Holy Toledo Jack in
Speaker 8: New City VIDs and Matters No throwing Seattle said, he
Speaker 8: knows we do be Damn dodey ash he kills Silo,
Speaker 8: crafty Pappy.
Speaker 1: That's how I trying to Who's back with the new cat?
Speaker 1: Who's tracked? Man? Who I got to? Jilli knocking down
Speaker 1: like Billy All got me.
Speaker 8: Sill If you feel me spilling, Phil really feel me
Speaker 8: spinning an infinity to Pine Flows, comedy and Coochies in
Speaker 8: the condom combos of prime problem, mind flow, mind flow,
Speaker 8: anything less to be.
Speaker 1: A test, anything more only than nine notes, Ta's still
Speaker 1: in less.
Speaker 8: In nine shows of Fine Foes mind fo bomb blow
Speaker 8: shows that time shows.
Speaker 1: This nigga bit like that did you have me? So
Speaker 1: I always say, you just just spit around for I
Speaker 1: told you, bobly come every day.
Speaker 8: I have better mommas in the brus nigga I had
Speaker 8: niggas was on when I had to come through it
Speaker 8: and they was like.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 1: Translation translations day my way through that. I know that.
Speaker 23: There's a record I need to do. The making up
Speaker 23: up tell yeah, I tell you. The making of Uptown
Speaker 23: came out. I'm not at at first.
Speaker 1: Record the skeleton beat. I didn't like the skeleton of
Speaker 1: the beat Juice Juice, Yeah, it was in the door.
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, this is that's what translation translation. I
Speaker 1: went to jail because we had to do. They came up.
Speaker 1: They translation down.
Speaker 10: You came down the block and the translation he came
Speaker 10: down the block. He said, Yo, Tommy boys on us.
Speaker 10: They want us to do a record for this Juice soundtrack.
Speaker 10: What are we gonna do? What do you want to do?
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know.
Speaker 10: Man, and I start playing the movie has already done.
Speaker 10: Though the movie was done, but he's already in it. Yeah,
Speaker 10: yeah that's what isn't It wasn't out. But Tommy Boy
Speaker 10: wanted us to do a record, and they said, we
Speaker 10: need to get a record for it.
Speaker 1: So they came up.
Speaker 10: There and I was just like, I got this one joint.
Speaker 10: I was like, but it's a skeleton, I don't really
Speaker 10: like it or whatever. And I played it and I
Speaker 10: was like, I don't.
Speaker 1: Really like it.
Speaker 10: I put it in real quick, took it out and
Speaker 10: start playing some other stuff, and he's just like, no, no,
Speaker 10: no no no, no, no no no, go back to
Speaker 10: the other one.
Speaker 1: Go back to the which one, now, go back to
Speaker 1: that other one. This, yeah, that's it. Boom boom. However,
Speaker 1: it was like winning clip, but it's you heavy black
Speaker 1: Man's God, look at more competition, Beat your break, your mother,
Speaker 1: your CD. You go on later with a dick and
Speaker 1: I want to bring your brother ships boy Norty ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the flames plays and then saying you do, brother, can't
Speaker 1: go fall no matter where you go. There you fighting
Speaker 1: something cool like ship, they said. And then we got South. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got s we go. We settled out ship. God
Speaker 1: damn you.
Speaker 8: Know very, I said, out of court with me, God
Speaker 8: damn Sugar said Lloyd bad so that God damn it. Mother,
Speaker 8: They said, aunt of court when they fuck with me
Speaker 8: my brother? Yeah, it wasn't me, ship, I think we
Speaker 8: want to drop this. It's a gang of little niggas
Speaker 8: and Hootie's outside to just keep following me and ship
Speaker 8: and everything. It's just saying Dredd tread tread, noughty, noughty noughty,
Speaker 8: love you, love you.
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, just let's drop this law. Who is
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers ain't so statue limitation. So I want to
Speaker 1: ask you some serious serious ask some serious ship translation,
Speaker 1: some serious ship. Who did you meet first, Big Pie Pop?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pa can introduce me the big when packing Big
Speaker 8: DoD nigga.
Speaker 1: I died with him. I'm just here haunting niggas with
Speaker 1: the truth, real deal. Them was my niggas. So now,
Speaker 1: when did you meet Pop? I'm at Pop.
Speaker 8: We were doing rolling flavory and anything and on the
Speaker 8: road it was Queen Lante for a heavy d publican
Speaker 8: and me and Digital Underground. So he was doing a
Speaker 8: humpty and anthing on the ground that no se that
Speaker 8: that that the park translation when they told him get
Speaker 8: this nigga crazy off the block, Like you.
Speaker 1: Start to take him out on the road, you would
Speaker 1: just be drifting around the hood. We were just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, stayble, you know what. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you about the hood.
Speaker 9: You know how you grow up in the hood and
Speaker 9: you got chick Wethers and you know you got cats. Yo,
Speaker 9: these niggas is some wow niggas. Right, Trench has always
Speaker 9: been that cat. I've been and deny you all these years.
Speaker 9: I'm like, Trench is a wild nigga, But Trench ain't
Speaker 9: really that wow.
Speaker 1: Wow fucking make it right here, man about this catch.
Speaker 10: Don't worry about yeah, yeah, yeah, like they are. When
Speaker 10: we were we stay down there, but then the stages
Speaker 10: up with Flavor Unit. We were naughty by nature of
Speaker 10: the town and we were starting to get everything together
Speaker 10: and Latifa and was going on tour and they was
Speaker 10: just like we were just like, yo, just take tracks,
Speaker 10: let them be a roadie, just take translation, just take her.
Speaker 1: We all we don't have anything, we brothers anything. Anybody
Speaker 1: played they position.
Speaker 8: Nobody never killed nobody from the homies and nothing. Nobody
Speaker 8: snitched on nobody, nothing. It was Cole's rules, anything else.
Speaker 8: Anybody played their position. I was the motherfucking we peaceful
Speaker 8: enforce it. If anybody fuck with my motherfucking brothers and
Speaker 8: our whole click you feel me.
Speaker 1: They did they part. They do They a body play
Speaker 1: they fucking position and the niggas come. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: no more. They said whole fuck.
Speaker 6: But you remember the first day I'm at POMP the
Speaker 6: first time, man, when I met this nigga.
Speaker 1: Yo, they had we was on the road. We was roadies.
Speaker 1: What roadies are people? We got a little per diem.
Speaker 1: Per diem is what you get paid a week or something,
Speaker 1: you know, and you carry him bags. If you happy,
Speaker 1: you happy? Yeah, we wasn't there. You happy to be
Speaker 1: because they yeah, they sent me out and that's our
Speaker 1: mad pockets.
Speaker 9: While he signed with Flavor Union Management, right, we were
Speaker 9: still on the block basically. But when we signed with
Speaker 9: Flavor Union Management, they took trips on the road so
Speaker 9: he could go. They freestyle in the middle of lot.
Speaker 8: They forced me these My brothers said, our way, we
Speaker 8: got business.
Speaker 1: He nigga looking for two years ago. Hey, easy, and
Speaker 1: we do something about this man.
Speaker 9: We used to be on the block, right, so everybody
Speaker 9: was shut down the block for the day, were going
Speaker 9: a great adventure. Order were going a great adventure for
Speaker 9: the day. This nigga would stayed back. Nobody's on the block.
Speaker 9: He's out there setting his own prices. Double the rate
Speaker 9: because nobody's out there. Everybody's in hold of that up.
Speaker 9: Hold the fuck up translation real nigga.
Speaker 8: I said, They said, Yo, you can't get these ships,
Speaker 8: the twenties and the just shad. I said, y'all I've
Speaker 8: been getting. He said, you ain't beenking. I said, he
Speaker 8: we up in the fucking price. He's like, mo fuck.
Speaker 8: I said, y'all take y'all vaca. Ain't niggas go taking him?
Speaker 8: They called me trigger I go serve ship with him.
Speaker 8: That wanted to go to great adventure.
Speaker 1: That nigga. Niggas going some lines for trust, never going
Speaker 1: to one of the he is somebody gonna say the
Speaker 1: hell got the ship. No niggas ain't gonna kill waiting
Speaker 1: right now to that nigga. They go there the block. Hell,
Speaker 1: come on, little bit like that. We was in anybody,
Speaker 1: old man down the block. So you remember we used
Speaker 1: to come from there. So you may never go nowhere.
Speaker 8: All the niggas used to come around go to fly events.
Speaker 8: We just anchored down on the block, just getting it.
Speaker 8: Translating my dagg I don't want to go to greater
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to go ship.
Speaker 24: Look, we were like beeping without he was he was
Speaker 24: beeping with We was beeping with our philips.
Speaker 1: Wasn't nobody out there all black? We see it, were
Speaker 1: beeping with our relatives. Where y'all we ain't c street
Speaker 1: visished it. They fresh as hell.
Speaker 8: They looking like these fresh out of motherfucker paying for
Speaker 8: alphole and ship they got the BMW change, were dirty
Speaker 8: ship on the block. When they get raided, they want't
Speaker 8: ill can we come on the end of the young
Speaker 8: or the old man from Friday said, no.
Speaker 24: Nigga, nigga, y'all niggas is hot nigga, we dirty, y'all
Speaker 24: ain't coming over here and bringing them business and all
Speaker 24: that shitting and gold chained niggas.
Speaker 1: See all these niggas and yeah, they be over there
Speaker 1: when we go out.
Speaker 8: We had our mix and shipping all our mother bit
Speaker 8: and nigg God damn Gucci suits and the balls.
Speaker 1: Now y'all not coming.
Speaker 8: So try everybody that tried to go through the block
Speaker 8: from the O G Ski and and all of us,
Speaker 8: everybody will have motherfucker got damned to that. Even from
Speaker 8: somebody's feeling their grandmama. Yeah, like you are nigga trying
Speaker 8: to to block over there.
Speaker 1: Even yeah, I got a question. You can't control this.
Speaker 8: Hold on, hold on, hold on legslationship translationship, let's get
Speaker 8: this drink.
Speaker 19: Just just.
Speaker 1: Was laying king. Well guess what got kick back was gone?
Speaker 1: I was not. I was a fucking They said I
Speaker 1: was from Washington. We are yeah fit translation. You know
Speaker 1: hip hop, you represent every race.
Speaker 6: He's on the real You know, I watched, like I say,
Speaker 6: Drink Champs is this type of podcast?
Speaker 1: It really isn't. Drink Champions just for every culture, and
Speaker 1: it's hip hop. That's why I feel like hip hop
Speaker 1: should be his own race. Like I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't know. I know this is a tardy, but it
Speaker 1: might be genius.
Speaker 6: I think that the next presidential race people should run
Speaker 6: as hip hop candidate.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we need somebody else. I was talking
Speaker 1: you things, but but there's people like David Banner killing people,
Speaker 1: killing Mike.
Speaker 6: There's people are what's my other brother that was on
Speaker 6: death Jam, Young Brother on Depth Jam, Big Qut on
Speaker 6: Death Jam.
Speaker 1: There's people that we can listen that's maybe maybe we
Speaker 1: not got to rush them to the presidency. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: we take them to mayors. Why not? Maybe maybe with
Speaker 1: David Banner, like David Banner. I suggested that, you know
Speaker 1: he did it in Mississippi.
Speaker 6: I suggested that when Tyler quat here, you went for
Speaker 6: Brooklyn Council.
Speaker 1: And the thing is a lot of us because I remember.
Speaker 6: I was told to Russell liv strategy about to Russell was,
Speaker 6: I was, I was, and uh, hip Hop Summit. So
Speaker 6: I remember back in the days the hip Hop Summit,
Speaker 6: So Russell Simmons and I did like seventeen And at
Speaker 6: just one point, I was just like, Russ, you're getting
Speaker 6: me out here, because because wherever I'm at, he's pulling
Speaker 6: over my whole bus.
Speaker 1: Niggas just like here death MP at the time. So
Speaker 1: wherever we're like your show was canceling the night, you
Speaker 1: gotta do a hip hop summing Jesus right, It's like Russ,
Speaker 1: at some point what we're doing? Can you give us
Speaker 1: back there? Right? And Rush is like, he's like, so
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I said, why don't you run
Speaker 1: for president?
Speaker 6: And I know I said this story on the on
Speaker 6: the podcast a couple of times, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 6: it again.
Speaker 1: He said, no, I mean I smoke dope. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: body smoke. Wait Russ, right, he said, nah, I smoke
Speaker 1: terror bushed your coke.
Speaker 6: But back then I understood. I was like, you know, Russ,
Speaker 6: all right, cool, smoked heroin cool.
Speaker 1: Right now, what if Donald gave us anything? He gave
Speaker 1: us the hope that they don't give a fuck as
Speaker 1: long as you create your following, right, It's just like Kanye.
Speaker 6: I mean, whether you agree with Kanye, you don't agree
Speaker 6: with Kanye, his followers still follow him.
Speaker 1: That's what happened with Trump. He used social media, social
Speaker 1: media President. I said it from this podcast from the beginning.
Speaker 1: What did I say? Trump turned on politics into a
Speaker 1: smack DVD. They didn't care about what he.
Speaker 8: Was saying was factual or what it was the better line,
Speaker 8: you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: You could tell this factual. We can hit him with
Speaker 1: facts on a smack DVD. What if you got the.
Speaker 8: Better line translation, Donald Trump's motherfucker, I'm gonna built that.
Speaker 8: You happy you were saying what the majority of the
Speaker 8: voters was going to say. Trump, Yeah, we gotta protect this,
Speaker 8: we gotta go this, we gotta have this, we gotta
Speaker 8: be for us, we gotta move on, we gotta bill
Speaker 8: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The separation and a president and everybody was going.
Speaker 9: But here here's another thing though normally, and Bill not
Speaker 9: only do I think the better play is for all
Speaker 9: of us if we're involved in politics or whatever. It's
Speaker 9: just like you're putting on the next artist, Mike, It's.
Speaker 8: Just like you're putting on the political meetings, tell as
Speaker 8: little bits.
Speaker 9: It's not like you're putting on the next artist. You
Speaker 9: just co signing the next urban politician or your next
Speaker 9: young politician. So we provide the mouth mouthpiece. We provide
Speaker 9: that international connection. When you're talking about hip hop as
Speaker 9: a race, it's gonna be a going race. It's gonna
Speaker 9: be multi cultural, multi ethnic. It's one voice. So what
Speaker 9: we need to do is we need to keep doing
Speaker 9: what we're doing because we're new and we're signing the
Speaker 9: people who are gonna be there in trench.
Speaker 10: Look the mostly like they'll do.
Speaker 8: Like I said, we're playing our parts. He's great with
Speaker 8: the you know, the politicians, all of them.
Speaker 1: I'm in the streets.
Speaker 8: I'm having their homies, doing games together and everything else.
Speaker 1: We got to playing games with the rivals.
Speaker 8: They're put on the lights and city, you know, we
Speaker 8: put the cars up, put the headlights on them. Everybody
Speaker 8: got waters boom uniforms, and we have different blood and crypts.
Speaker 8: It ain't bloods against cripts, just like teams twitched all up.
Speaker 8: So when you break bread together and you see in.
Speaker 1: The streets and they go back out, now you know
Speaker 1: that's my people.
Speaker 8: Know a little bit to just put back to the
Speaker 8: community when you have any type of connect that.
Speaker 1: Goes far and hip hop is all within it right right.
Speaker 6: Because you know, the point I'm kind of trying to
Speaker 6: get at is sometimes us still being in the hood,
Speaker 6: is still being involved with the hood and still being
Speaker 6: around the hood, and we're not giving something back. The
Speaker 6: thing about it is we have to we have to
Speaker 6: push it forward because the era that we live in
Speaker 6: with black men being murdered every day, think about I'll
Speaker 6: get the Chicago next. But I'm saying, you know, just
Speaker 6: on the streets getting pulled over for traffic, like getting
Speaker 6: pulled over, like we're at genocide already.
Speaker 1: How can we commit our own genocide? So like I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to be for anybody. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have anybody. You have to have problems because
Speaker 1: we have fucking more say within ourselves. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: within ourselves.
Speaker 6: It always hurts and always it always hits home because
Speaker 6: it's like, damn, I.
Speaker 3: Guess what, don't don't we have the same news station,
Speaker 3: we have the same internet.
Speaker 1: Look, how are we still beefing?
Speaker 8: When we came up, all of us, we had forty ounces,
Speaker 8: we had a little drinks, we got you know, we
Speaker 8: did a different thing. These kids now they're getting house ship.
Speaker 8: Sure that I'm the motherfucker was like and lan o
Speaker 8: percocet and niggas wake.
Speaker 1: The fuck up and in jail for life? Like what
Speaker 1: you killed three motherfuckers? Remember who was your homies? And
Speaker 1: once they sot like we wasn't on that type of ship.
Speaker 1: It wasn't cool to being a thing.
Speaker 10: Translation, it wasn't cool to be a fiend guy killing
Speaker 10: guys are just scared to just have a fair one
Speaker 10: and just walk away from it like that.
Speaker 1: Like that's what it used to be, because that's how
Speaker 1: you solved your problems. You went to the take the
Speaker 1: gun home, man home. Have didn't think that in the book.
Speaker 8: If that's what, if that's the mentality all we got
Speaker 8: gift basket, look ship that is gonna stop showing off,
Speaker 8: showing over back.
Speaker 1: You get beds. I don't see that. I don't see that.
Speaker 8: One mean you ain't.
Speaker 1: You know why the gifts? You don't the gifts me
Speaker 1: just say something. We're gonna get back to everything that
Speaker 1: we was talking about.
Speaker 6: But you know what, you guys raised, not only me,
Speaker 6: not only E f N, but you raised hip hop.
Speaker 6: You gots stood there, you stood strong. You can consistently
Speaker 6: stayed the same no matter. I don't get. I don't
Speaker 6: care when I'm gonna hear a new Nordy record. As
Speaker 6: long as Cage is on a motherfucking exactly is kicking
Speaker 6: that ship and then video is coming in there with
Speaker 6: that butter on that bread. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 6: And hip hop needs to continue to just a praisey,
Speaker 6: praise you. I said a praise.
Speaker 1: Let's let's roll with that. You know what, you know
Speaker 1: what drunk take you everywhere?
Speaker 6: Listen, you know what it is so many people when
Speaker 6: they when they ride off all legends and when I
Speaker 6: know the real deal because I'm in the field and
Speaker 6: I walk around and I know that I see tretching
Speaker 6: Ruth Chris, and then if he go to the bathroom,
Speaker 6: I take care of his bill. If if I go
Speaker 6: to the bathroom. We take care of my bill and
Speaker 6: were out there living good and just having fun. And
Speaker 6: it's like, I didn't want him to just tell that
Speaker 6: to me. I wanted the time to the world that
Speaker 6: we out here still living. Just because you don't see
Speaker 6: a person on the Hottest MC list, don't.
Speaker 1: Mean he ain't the hottest MC right right and working at.
Speaker 8: You, guys, I got relatives, but yeh, niggas all around worldwide,
Speaker 8: bass boye translate.
Speaker 1: That's what I was about to go to. What's right? Listen,
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something.
Speaker 6: Nineteen ninety eight number one record in the world, you know,
Speaker 6: platinum album. I go to London or something like that,
Speaker 6: and I see that. I saw this is my favorite group,
Speaker 6: like at the time, like holes in my long thats
Speaker 6: my ship. Now I'm onna time me, boy. They told
Speaker 6: me to me, boy, I don't understand because gave me
Speaker 6: a million, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Be like and I see them and they I said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing out here? They said, we got
Speaker 1: a show like two weeks from now, and I laughed
Speaker 1: at them. I literally was like, what heck? Just out
Speaker 1: here for two weeks? Because I was so young, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what happened so al right cool here that
Speaker 1: I went plat and whatever whatever.
Speaker 6: When things went down and I was just in Europe
Speaker 6: for a month, I understood, right, But I was so
Speaker 6: young at that point that when they said, like, you're
Speaker 6: just chilling in Europe.
Speaker 1: For two extra weeks.
Speaker 6: I have no idea about features, I have no idea
Speaker 6: about hosting mixtapes.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. But I'm sitting because to me,
Speaker 1: Europe at that time was like, why be here. I
Speaker 1: can be in Harlem, I can be in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: I could be in Miami, I could be in l A.
Speaker 6: And then years later, when I sat back, and you
Speaker 6: know what, hip hop might live, real hip hop, the
Speaker 6: hip hop that we're all talking about, might live more
Speaker 6: in Europe than.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 8: Shows.
Speaker 1: This is out there six o'clock in the afternoon. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: what time to close? Club open? It's like nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, why they out there? Why am I
Speaker 1: sound check?
Speaker 6: Because they want to be the first people in there,
Speaker 6: and they're out there breakdancing.
Speaker 1: This niggas doing graffiti at the fucking venue. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the best thing about I ever.
Speaker 8: When they got that where you can see the old
Speaker 8: school or the throwback the nineties eight damn that say
Speaker 8: this like America and this is like the world like
Speaker 8: compared to us our era.
Speaker 1: We could go all over and tour.
Speaker 8: If you ain't got that content like that, Yo, you
Speaker 8: got Japan they breakdance and.
Speaker 1: Still they look at you. Germany break Yo, they don't
Speaker 1: know English.
Speaker 9: Here's one thing I want to tell you, guys, and
Speaker 9: I want to the audience, man, do not take your
Speaker 9: own backyard for granted. Because, like we told you all
Speaker 9: those new style stories, we got fucking established as the
Speaker 9: new stop right there in our backyard. It was our
Speaker 9: wild high school auditorium where we got our first audience.
Speaker 9: Then we mastered our backyard, and then we took it
Speaker 9: where we took it. Don't keep letting people or don't
Speaker 9: let people tell you all the money is overseas. When
Speaker 9: we have all of these, we have the whole United
Speaker 9: States right here, right now. I'm telling you, let me
Speaker 9: just say this, let me just tell you this really quick.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna drop it on you.
Speaker 8: Twenty seventeen, we will be doing easily one hundred amphitheaters
Speaker 8: and arenas in the United States.
Speaker 1: That's not going to Canada. It's not going nowhere.
Speaker 9: Eight to ten thousand people man on this side of
Speaker 9: the nineties tour working with our agency, and the game
Speaker 9: is evolving. The game is evolving. These package dates are
Speaker 9: the shit.
Speaker 6: But how about these new artists right will throw out
Speaker 6: a record and it's hot on the internet. And the
Speaker 6: good thing and the bad thing about the internet is
Speaker 6: when it's hot on the internet is hot in places
Speaker 6: we don't know.
Speaker 1: They can't really build a foundation, Like I forget this guy.
Speaker 1: He's a white guy, he said, the white guy. All
Speaker 1: he needs is a good booking agency.
Speaker 10: You know that.
Speaker 6: No, no, not spost belong to guy, he said, he's
Speaker 6: not about that life. Oh slim something Well, Slim Jesus put.
Speaker 1: Out a record.
Speaker 6: His record blew up and he couldn't even even if
Speaker 6: he wanted to build up his own hometown, he couldn't
Speaker 6: because when he threw it up on the Internet, it
Speaker 6: blew up everywhere else. So how about these guys like this?
Speaker 1: I just say.
Speaker 10: What you can't do too, like like even like going
Speaker 10: back like just to to just finds relating to us
Speaker 10: and and and going into like to piggyback on what
Speaker 10: you're talking about. It's like even with us, like we
Speaker 10: felt like, I guess my point I'm trying to say
Speaker 10: is even with us, Jesus or anybody like that, you
Speaker 10: got to continue to plan and continue to build. Like
Speaker 10: you said, you can still build that home as well
Speaker 10: as our side.
Speaker 1: Like even with us, we locked our hometown down at
Speaker 1: home and our our city and in our state. But
Speaker 1: then our we we said, we said it's time to
Speaker 1: spread out.
Speaker 10: Now, and we went to New York. And the first
Speaker 10: time we went to New York, it was a regular
Speaker 10: birthday party. They bowed us out of that place and
Speaker 10: we were a bunch regular.
Speaker 1: Just because we said we're from Judge.
Speaker 8: It was Red Alert's birthday party. Right, So back then,
Speaker 8: and this was the eighties, we would have started. We
Speaker 8: weren't even naughty by Nature yet. So there's Daylight Soul
Speaker 8: trip called Quest Queen Latti for KRS one. You name it,
Speaker 8: you named Red Alert's birthday party.
Speaker 9: We come there because Ky's brother was managing us at
Speaker 9: the time and he knew the promoter who was throwing
Speaker 9: the party. So he's like, back, we'll put Yawla on
Speaker 9: as a new style of just open up before whatever
Speaker 9: else happened, we got up there and that this was
Speaker 9: the craziest shoe guy in December.
Speaker 1: We got up.
Speaker 9: Even if I was first, I'm saying that we're from
Speaker 9: knowing my nature with from Jersey. We got booed before
Speaker 9: we even dropped the racket. Then when we dropped the
Speaker 9: they booed us out the building. The craziest part is
Speaker 9: when we pulled up the clear like this. By the
Speaker 9: time we got booed and had to drive back to Jersey,
Speaker 9: it was like three ft of snow out there.
Speaker 1: The longest driving the Jersey like you know, a whole
Speaker 1: ride and I'm feeling say, and the time of going
Speaker 1: back the drawing, that was it. We're gonna do it right.
Speaker 1: We went back to the drawing like to this fucking day. Man,
Speaker 1: let me, don't you care about what? Yo?
Speaker 9: We got the brand, we got, the legacy, we got
Speaker 9: the love of the people. You have the Internet, you
Speaker 9: have the proper tools and to own an operator business,
Speaker 9: roll up your fucking sleeves, invest in yourself.
Speaker 1: Stay on top of your ship and you can manage
Speaker 1: and budd and miss.
Speaker 25: Name dicause that's what it takes.
Speaker 11: You know it.
Speaker 8: Niggas would count you out a million times. They said,
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to hear that ship. You banging out
Speaker 8: with capone, trying to figure out new music. You can't
Speaker 8: left on these niggas with drink chaps, whole different lane.
Speaker 1: Man, all right, that's what the game is about.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: We had a guys, I've voted for you. I'm already
Speaker 1: and stay on top of ship. Anybody can do every.
Speaker 8: Fucking thing you already voted for you already already know, nigga.
Speaker 22: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a politician like a motherfucker over. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: do this ship, man, We've been doing this ship for years. Man,
Speaker 1: dream Man.
Speaker 8: When we had a mean before we were in New York,
Speaker 8: he said, they don't say we from Jersey because the
Speaker 8: niggas going tread.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck you go a ship?
Speaker 8: Please?
Speaker 12: We know.
Speaker 1: Here we are. We're gonna say, do not say we
Speaker 1: from Jersey.
Speaker 8: Listen rock that motherfucker niggas and hip hop don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, if you weren't from the five boroughs, by year
Speaker 1: we take what year we take? This was like before eight.
Speaker 8: We say flavor you on today. He eight eighty nine,
Speaker 8: he's eighteen, nineteen years old, but just from fucking Jersey time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the man Ja one day one day when d
Speaker 1: m C was sort of like your inspiration.
Speaker 8: Dream please.
Speaker 1: Same every Friday night. Let me tell you this to
Speaker 1: even with all of that and trade coat in middle
Speaker 1: school with a briefcase, and that motherfucker.
Speaker 8: Can't run the radio playing motherfucking motherfucker season ship, you're
Speaker 8: all letting motherfucker. He's like yo washing lord, you know
Speaker 8: like you said saying, I start feeling it was my ship.
Speaker 1: I was little fuck that we came out.
Speaker 8: When we came out as head because CuMo D was
Speaker 8: like he took out darkskin niggas.
Speaker 1: But I love it low you feel me. I'm like
Speaker 1: to Darsian niggas, man, all these niggas, man, Man.
Speaker 8: If you need Darcian niggas, come back, Big Daddy, can
Speaker 8: Daddy translate?
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came put the chocolate bag. But you know what.
Speaker 1: On another on the.
Speaker 10: Speaking of run Damn C. Like we've always been, like
Speaker 10: I said, we've been everything we do it. We call
Speaker 10: it like everything's after them like we but we when
Speaker 10: we came out in ninety four ninety three, we came
Speaker 10: out with hip hop array.
Speaker 1: Hip howay they said, BP.
Speaker 10: Recking, I'm going backtrack to that record of that and
Speaker 10: the evolution of it. But even with that, we were
Speaker 10: like you said about feeling yourself. We came out with
Speaker 10: that after our first album, we sold millions of records,
Speaker 10: come out with this, were back on top. We gonna
Speaker 10: got our own tour. We're like, yo, listen, we love
Speaker 10: running them. See this is what we came up on.
Speaker 1: And at that time people start to sleep on run
Speaker 1: them see like, oh they over. We put them on
Speaker 1: to it. We want, we want we want to run them.
Speaker 10: See now listen, Well we were saying to ourselves, but
Speaker 10: our audience gonna come see us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna murder them.
Speaker 17: Man.
Speaker 21: The very first show Richmond know Richmond, Richmond story you
Speaker 21: they said, no, Teller clan, mother fucking I'm talking to man.
Speaker 1: I said no, we don't want money.
Speaker 8: See we said, fucking can'ncel the tour if run DMC
Speaker 8: can't come out.
Speaker 1: I said that that we want you to tell the
Speaker 1: whole story. Anyway, we said. We was out there and
Speaker 1: we were like, Yo, our show crazy, grow up on it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out here. They can do whatever. We're
Speaker 1: gonna kill them up.
Speaker 8: Man, damn se without god Father, like ahead, Bob very
Speaker 8: fresh the very first every show larded us Nigga, we
Speaker 8: ain't going close. We're gonna play our position, going before
Speaker 8: them niggas. You're going after run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the headlines one d C.
Speaker 8: If you lest somebody said you over that shields out, dude,
Speaker 8: you can go after one dm C.
Speaker 1: Niggah, you may lock it up. You don't want over.
Speaker 8: We go on.
Speaker 11: A lot of people don't want to, don't want to
Speaker 11: go on your head car. People don't like Yo, you
Speaker 11: can't go after you know we run no that we
Speaker 11: like we be rking.
Speaker 1: We don't rot them. You I'm going now. I was
Speaker 1: actually my first deal. Remember when a long time boy
Speaker 1: then Death Game and her. Yeah, yeah, because I didn't
Speaker 1: like Tom Silverman. He kept coming to the meetings with
Speaker 1: eyeliner on his life. I just I just thought it
Speaker 1: was real.
Speaker 8: He was doing Homo normal years that normal rustling and Andy.
Speaker 1: And one of your classes.
Speaker 8: He came out, came out of the classes where he
Speaker 8: got away.
Speaker 1: The whole time. I came in here looking for me. Definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. He just meant me like it was like
Speaker 1: like that you know where he where you are? You guys,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think of the game today? What
Speaker 1: do you think of that? You know what I think
Speaker 1: of the game? Half a hip hop and he's a hit.
Speaker 1: I think half of me says, uh, they're not doing
Speaker 1: real hip hop.
Speaker 6: But then the other half me said, they said the
Speaker 6: same thing about you when you were doing I.
Speaker 1: Listened to what my kids want to listen to. I
Speaker 1: listened to that. I see the good. When first, I'm
Speaker 1: not like because it's certain ship, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like I like to get the ship you feel.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like, you know, what happened one day
Speaker 6: was we got club, I start living here. I started
Speaker 6: living here, and no matter what, you go to a
Speaker 6: club and the club they play the young lead ship, right,
Speaker 6: so you know, I'm cool.
Speaker 1: And then one day my son big, I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: I love you, I miss you. It's in basketball camp.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker call me.
Speaker 6: You know, they don't want to call me because translation anyway, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're playing ball. So anyway, I used to walk past
Speaker 6: my son's room. I used to hear the ship that
Speaker 6: I heard in the club.
Speaker 1: So nowt to get curious, and I started to be like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, why is he listening to that?
Speaker 6: So I would telling him, come out your head, take
Speaker 6: the beats pill and he'll be like, you don't want
Speaker 6: to hear my ship?
Speaker 1: Pie? Like first, just don't call me pie d Dad,
Speaker 1: just flicking.
Speaker 6: Like and then I started to I started saying, you
Speaker 6: know what, I'm not gonna judge my son because my
Speaker 6: parents ain't judged me.
Speaker 1: Some let him listen to what you listen to.
Speaker 6: And that's what kind of got me into the new
Speaker 6: generation like acceptable, Like I could care less, I'll be.
Speaker 1: In the club, I say, so be loud, but you
Speaker 1: know that's a loon. But switch driving dreams and story
Speaker 1: and I'll be in. Then I'd be like, and I
Speaker 1: find myself loving this ship, not even liking it, loving
Speaker 1: it the same music that I know that if I
Speaker 1: was to listen to it in the nineties or in
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 8: Going to left racking and listen to that ship?
Speaker 6: But most of your peers, peers, but young you haveing
Speaker 6: racket and left right the young kids and kid everywhere
Speaker 6: they are listening to this.
Speaker 1: So instead of me being like like a dude, like
Speaker 1: fuck that, I started to listen right, well, you know what, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but the thing, you know what it is?
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people. I think not not
Speaker 10: not all of them, but I think some or most
Speaker 10: of them that do have the total total like shut
Speaker 10: out of and just be like that. That is that
Speaker 10: because they don't have kids. If you have kids, they
Speaker 10: were to understand understanding because you see how they react
Speaker 10: to it and you listen to them, listen to it,
Speaker 10: like you said.
Speaker 1: The same thing what you said, I can relate together. Translation.
Speaker 10: It's been playing that stuff for years and I just
Speaker 10: hear him playing it, and I hear them saying these
Speaker 10: songs two three months before they even come out, like
Speaker 10: because they get them all all those kids do. They explore,
Speaker 10: they get off the internet and then they play in
Speaker 10: their rooms and then all of a sudden the radio
Speaker 10: starts playing later. But you've been heard them playing this
Speaker 10: internet hit perfect one.
Speaker 1: My son, Jake Ford, I think it changed this motherfucker game.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: I had the motherfucker new motherfucker do a project.
Speaker 8: We got the old throw back tracks from the era,
Speaker 8: having my money and Kazi, my nephew there he had
Speaker 8: a head and all that the battle.
Speaker 26: Okay, you got a question, I got to answer me
Speaker 26: ask you this norm Yes, today, would you make a
Speaker 26: song incorporating that side that style of music.
Speaker 1: If you today, if you if you were making a record.
Speaker 6: I did already funk flex actually went crazy on my
Speaker 6: my new record because I know.
Speaker 1: Certain younger new style. No, it's not younger in this section. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. When you made the fucking track beat today,
Speaker 1: I did about two years ago. That's like I didn't
Speaker 1: like translations.
Speaker 8: I didn't like I did it translation. You mentioned a
Speaker 8: certain motherfucker. We don't with you get your money with that.
Speaker 8: We don't up your money. You got some way, don't
Speaker 8: go through says.
Speaker 1: And we will years ago. Yo, Let's do a project
Speaker 1: with a play yourself definly like it Angel sound.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't comfortable in that, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: what you have to do that. We don't have to
Speaker 1: do that, my husband, that's a bridge. That's the biggest
Speaker 1: podcast in the world. Before that gets get a break.
Speaker 1: Try trap music.
Speaker 19: I know I crack.
Speaker 1: The whole Mam movie. Yo, you had the connect with
Speaker 1: you didn't We got to use the connect. You don't
Speaker 1: be sharing you did?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: You go get him? You come straight up to the
Speaker 1: just text me mother.
Speaker 8: We're going like a thousand Joe yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Now you know what I'm just.
Speaker 8: Saying for the video. Yeah, him, like you're gonna do it?
Speaker 8: What's the relationship with the home who?
Speaker 6: That's my brother? He just texted me Merry Christmas. I
Speaker 6: wish him a merry Christmas. I've been texting a wrong
Speaker 6: number because my my iPhone hasn't been backed up in
Speaker 6: thirty six.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight weeks, thirty eight weeks. And it's because I'm
Speaker 1: a bolder.
Speaker 6: I'm a guy from resource from for special education that
Speaker 6: will kick your ass and science.
Speaker 1: Class social I'm a good education. I'm good. I'm going now.
Speaker 8: Every other class I throw out a translation relations the communicator, I.
Speaker 1: Know the communicate, but you know that's the homie.
Speaker 6: I haven't spoken to him because what happened was, uh,
Speaker 6: we were we were doing That's that's always.
Speaker 1: Been so what happened to the tracks were done? The
Speaker 1: whole side of you out. You got existence. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was picking it up. What are you doing? I said,
Speaker 1: this man on the border of the bus, and.
Speaker 8: Just on the border you got a saying that it's
Speaker 8: just me on the board of the boss the web
Speaker 8: on this jump.
Speaker 1: Look at each other.
Speaker 9: We fight each other, get the b they said, saying,
Speaker 9: we got a saying and it's called pie p I E.
Speaker 9: And this is what you all need to understand.
Speaker 8: P I E.
Speaker 1: Positioning is everything. Positioning.
Speaker 9: You position yourself and without giving up too much, normy
Speaker 9: you're doing your thing.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 8: How has the podcast journalists help you?
Speaker 9: I saw when you saw you like you went to
Speaker 9: I following you on social media. You're going to one
Speaker 9: of these fucking journalism media events.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what I'm really saying.
Speaker 8: This is my first time showing up at one of
Speaker 8: these motherfuckers as.
Speaker 1: A journal Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 9: So what's the experience that diversity people need to learn
Speaker 9: from you too? How do you work that brand, diversify
Speaker 9: that brand, find other avenues to reinvent yourself?
Speaker 6: Well, I'll just re editate what I was kind of
Speaker 6: saying earlier was the brother that sits right there, j
Speaker 6: my brother.
Speaker 1: He kept telling me, yo, we should do something, we
Speaker 1: should do because we had.
Speaker 6: A radio show at first, and then this is my
Speaker 6: serious satellite and X and combine it because remember at.
Speaker 1: First serious, you know, we had the twin was what
Speaker 1: separate thing.
Speaker 6: So we had a radio show and it did pretty good.
Speaker 6: But then when they merged together, I believe.
Speaker 1: I had just moved to Miami, and they was like,
Speaker 1: y'all can do the show or if you do the
Speaker 1: New York I forget exactly what it was. And then
Speaker 1: we stopped doing it. But I find.
Speaker 6: He sort of knew what we had when we did
Speaker 6: the show, so f kept reiterated it to me.
Speaker 1: He kept saying, you, let's do something. Let's do something.
Speaker 6: And I did a podcast, you know, long story short,
Speaker 6: and then we started doing this and then our idea
Speaker 6: was fuck it. I listened to How ninety seven, I
Speaker 6: listened to Power nine out here, I listened to all
Speaker 6: that and all these platforms is based on the old
Speaker 6: nigga that's hot or the new nigga that's hot.
Speaker 1: Why don't we praise our legends.
Speaker 6: Why don't we say and say you know what yo, listen, listen.
Speaker 6: I know we quoted some of your records, but you
Speaker 6: can go through your albums. I know your words, world.
Speaker 1: But your words still got the business. Understand that it's business.
Speaker 9: What you're saying is the reality is with corporate America,
Speaker 9: all the corporate radio stations, it's business. It's not personal.
Speaker 9: We all know, all of these programmers people run these stations.
Speaker 9: They would love to do more, but they have to
Speaker 9: follow the order of the day. And it takes cats
Speaker 9: like you who you know this side of.
Speaker 1: The game to bring a norri in and create your own.
Speaker 8: My favorite quote is if it doesn't exist, created created.
Speaker 1: So that's all it takes.
Speaker 9: You listen to all of this ship, you see what's
Speaker 9: going on, you say, you know what's missing, and that's
Speaker 9: what Park said, ain't the weakness in the game, and
Speaker 9: sew it up.
Speaker 1: And there's so many people, so many people that I know.
Speaker 1: That's real. Hip hop lovers used to complain about hip
Speaker 1: hop and inger is. I love what they were.
Speaker 6: Complaining about, but I didn't want to complain. I want
Speaker 6: to do something about it. So me and my partner
Speaker 6: got together d J y FN. I don't remember to
Speaker 6: pronounce your last name. Yeah yeah, that ship is like
Speaker 6: that is like German.
Speaker 1: Last I mean, but.
Speaker 6: I said, yo, let's let's let's let's you know, we
Speaker 6: interview cared us one nigga say, oh yeah, Nigga's crazy,
Speaker 6: and you know what we did, tmvkicked off picked it
Speaker 6: up right, and I'm like, it ain't about if a
Speaker 6: nigga hot got a project out, you know what it's about,
Speaker 6: praising what the fun I grew up loving, praising what
Speaker 6: the fun he grew up loving.
Speaker 1: That nigga got a bed on because you know that's
Speaker 1: not hip hop VD right to him.
Speaker 9: You know how he still played Vinyl translations perisyl.
Speaker 1: I want to know what happened to all the tracks
Speaker 1: we did?
Speaker 8: You know, like your relative and queens come to Jersey
Speaker 8: and ship and you're missing some of your old school
Speaker 8: see the hard ride?
Speaker 1: Yeah went the fuck you my third name? Tell that
Speaker 1: ship right now? You don't know what you know?
Speaker 27: You have my favorite records together? Yeah, and me and
Speaker 27: one haven't mixed it together?
Speaker 12: Like no you.
Speaker 1: Found picture door Jane and Jackson j Jackson Laig jack.
Speaker 8: Know you, I know. Look, here's another thing you talk
Speaker 8: about my wife y y'all just the k'te being about him?
Speaker 8: God damn I got him bottom break? This is Apple,
Speaker 8: what's already Mercer's Malcolm janel Pas later over.
Speaker 1: Cut that translated.
Speaker 9: So we have a Jersey queen's connection, yes, and Kay's family.
Speaker 9: We got south Side Jamaica queens and then we have
Speaker 9: left fright.
Speaker 1: Yes, you do so.
Speaker 8: Then my baby mom was south Side Pepper from so
Speaker 8: and Pepper, you know, Jamaica.
Speaker 1: Let's get into your baby bringing up baby. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you from Kingston, Jamaica
Speaker 1: and Jamaica. Queazy Kenny Kenny Anderson got one. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: making you talk about you heard something yer about? All right,
Speaker 1: where does some pepper come out? What do you think?
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's to show stopped for that. Eighty two ladies, okay,
Speaker 1: so now so now the real gym was a scholay.
Speaker 18: Listen, sa amen, amen, eighty lady eight okay, eighty two
Speaker 18: eighty came so now listen.
Speaker 1: I came out like, yeah, I was right seventy seven
Speaker 1: and we're born in seventy. So when I'm looking at female,
Speaker 1: I'm not really I'm a young buck to you, I'm older.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 6: Fucking saus. I said, damn, and that I spend the drust.
Speaker 6: I said, this is old for me. I'm seven years old.
Speaker 1: You know was my ship? Right? I swore on marry
Speaker 1: one of them motherfuckers, right right. I ain't even I
Speaker 1: never met some people. You never did. We all have
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, man, we're doing this ship, come down there
Speaker 1: and go backstays comes with us translate doing translation.
Speaker 8: You big love man and all them dressing nigga ain't
Speaker 8: even when I go out and do you just talk
Speaker 8: to him?
Speaker 1: Take yourself and wall cheese numbers all that mass a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of your nigga is you put
Speaker 1: my business you.
Speaker 8: Have to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfucker take any fights you never.
Speaker 19: Get.
Speaker 1: You got damnatation. Nigga got almost seven years, God damn it,
Speaker 1: over seven years.
Speaker 8: Never might have broke the beacon in the motherfucking magnum
Speaker 8: condoms like just to have them and shouldn't use them.
Speaker 1: But that got in wet and nigga damning state said.
Speaker 28: Man, all six kids, I got one of them, nigga
Speaker 28: magnus man with the wet.
Speaker 1: All my kids, I one of them got that.
Speaker 8: Wow, that part, that part ain't no moment, ain't no
Speaker 8: mischief splashing, you know, just all over the states and
Speaker 8: just this bros splashing you know.
Speaker 1: About you got small ice over there. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: ice Stimer. Tell me where the hell is the song?
Speaker 1: And when you're going email like the three of them
Speaker 1: we did. We had like twoesday nights. Was there colleges.
Speaker 1: So he's a lot of nigga, a politician.
Speaker 8: These su niggas, I'm telling you, you're taking over all
Speaker 8: this space in this world.
Speaker 1: His motherfucker take over there. And y'all niggas is good.
Speaker 1: Your nigga's good nigga? Did you he still ain't answering
Speaker 1: my ship? No, no, no, I got I got.
Speaker 6: Did you ever picture yourself as top five PROTUSA hip
Speaker 6: hop on?
Speaker 1: All time?
Speaker 8: They be cheating him, man everage where you go? And
Speaker 8: he always was like, man, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: All the niggas.
Speaker 8: They stopped rating ship because I took it personal and
Speaker 8: I went to fuck up to their little waiting spots
Speaker 8: and said, for real, y'all disrespectful and showed him the
Speaker 8: top that I think with it, and no, he ain't
Speaker 8: on there. You motherfuckers stopped doing this ship. If you
Speaker 8: ain't gonna keep it funky, tell that part.
Speaker 1: You don't get City of Salt top five. He is,
Speaker 1: goddamn he number one in my motherfucking ship. So that
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the fuck up, that's all the matter.
Speaker 1: That part. No, I don't go for number one. Ain't listen.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you something that really matters, because all
Speaker 9: these lists exist. It's the mot fucking publishing checks that's
Speaker 9: what really matters. Y'all can debate all you one sitting
Speaker 9: and got damn.
Speaker 1: Barber showed.
Speaker 19: And look look at the work I ever, Look at
Speaker 19: the translations, games, The numbers don't lie.
Speaker 8: Look at motherfucking any food or anything. Loyalty has no
Speaker 8: exploration date. Look at Naughty by Nature. You see produced
Speaker 8: and written no matter what anybody.
Speaker 1: Shared from that ship. Family that stays together get paid
Speaker 1: together for life.
Speaker 8: We got all our publishing and producing together, no matter
Speaker 8: whoever rolled to produce anything, we got.
Speaker 1: It off up. So how'd you back, Pepper? How did
Speaker 1: this go down? Nigga? Let me tell you how I
Speaker 1: got because you know, like everybody was like all out
Speaker 1: of state with me. You ain't here, like you ain't hit.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that changing popular at first. He
Speaker 1: after the a test and it didn't happened, and Pop
Speaker 1: ran up a man.
Speaker 8: I won't just tell about different things that happened with
Speaker 8: him anyway, I know I didn't.
Speaker 1: I would tell you about how throwing them once, but
Speaker 1: you try. Everybody gotta try. Jane's janet. Come on, I
Speaker 1: never got to close. My wife, my wife, they tell
Speaker 1: me Janet, God damn, you don't choose you.
Speaker 8: Your wife will tell you that I'm just trying to
Speaker 8: get out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of you said, can I
Speaker 1: get you said, nigga want Janney. Yeah, nobody but she
Speaker 1: like nigga go get But how was it mean you met?
Speaker 1: Janet tells minutes? Yo, is we met Mike? You know, listen,
Speaker 1: tell the Mike. We're gonna do Janet, Mike or Michael J.
Speaker 8: Man whenever we get it first, Janet first, let's go trush,
Speaker 8: put me on a planet, dammit, and stop it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 8: You always was walking in the right spots of the
Speaker 8: spots of the clubs that I was in the back
Speaker 8: of this kind of dark and stuff.
Speaker 1: So we smocus. Sometimes you ain't got any criminals. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that your limitation and I ain't telling the.
Speaker 8: Nasty ship nigga you feel man kind of did and
Speaker 8: we can't wear you know when we done and man
Speaker 8: and cool and that's all.
Speaker 1: And that's all I got to said about my little
Speaker 1: cool bye ya. It's not saying about five hundreds. We
Speaker 1: just made that up. Just let me tell you something
Speaker 1: by nature. You had a illustrious life. You missed the
Speaker 1: Michael part, they said, Michael too.
Speaker 3: You know I was going in.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but let's go straight into it because your
Speaker 1: bed says.
Speaker 9: Well, the time we met Mike, it was like here
Speaker 9: another triple og and heavy D with everybody.
Speaker 1: Please give it up for the We love MC heavy D.
Speaker 8: For y'all in Heavy D session was the reason we
Speaker 8: met Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: Have did the Space Jean.
Speaker 9: Have did the soundtrack to Space Jam, the Michael Jackson
Speaker 9: Little Bucks Bunny movie, right all right, So.
Speaker 1: He was out there.
Speaker 6: I've never heard somebody describe it as Michael Jackson Bugs
Speaker 6: Bunny movie and leave out Jordan. You respect, continue, continue,
Speaker 6: I've never heard listen Jordan.
Speaker 1: In my whole is the way it went down. What happened.
Speaker 9: So our manager, Coulantif's manager shot him. He had real head,
Speaker 9: real real heavy. So he was out in Chicago with
Speaker 9: Have and they were shooting the video to the soundtrack
Speaker 9: Space Jam. So it was Hald, Michael Jackson, Jordan. They
Speaker 9: was doing all that earlier shot Kim And this is
Speaker 9: the importance of Brandon. We always flooded our whole family
Speaker 9: with just naughty merch. So Shot Kim had on the
Speaker 9: black pilot jacket with the Naughty by Nature logo embroidered
Speaker 9: on it. Michael Jackson hit him, was like, hey, you
Speaker 9: know Eve my nature. I know those guys. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 9: I met I man, this real TV here with hell.
Speaker 9: I like this guy, I can get them out here, yo.
Speaker 9: Mike made the call. Shot made the call of us.
Speaker 9: We flew out the.
Speaker 1: Chicago and where y'all met Michael Jackson. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: We got what you call up. Who wasn't that?
Speaker 9: We were there all day, we filled for hours. For
Speaker 9: half a second, who wasn't that noughty? And then another
Speaker 9: shot wasn't that?
Speaker 1: That's what we call a whole. But we did give them.
Speaker 1: That's when we got the monkey. The monkey those his
Speaker 1: own moms.
Speaker 9: Got to pay a Naughty by Nature boxes. You remember
Speaker 9: Naughty boxes. Yeah, Yo, we're gonna do business, don't we
Speaker 9: gave it? But these I called the Michael Jackson gloves.
Speaker 1: Because I'm rocking.
Speaker 8: Is this is there? This is how I'm bringing in
Speaker 8: the new year. Michael Jackson gloves.
Speaker 1: If you give me.
Speaker 6: Those, I'm not gonna wear those. Way too many niggas
Speaker 6: I shot. That's gonna feel disrespected.
Speaker 1: Already.
Speaker 18: What married, I'm boxing up my kitchen. My wife said,
Speaker 18: I love him, I love them. I'm never you know,
Speaker 18: we are together forever.
Speaker 6: But I can't wear those in public because if I
Speaker 6: wear those and Queen's niggas gonna.
Speaker 1: Be like that. The nigga that shot you sick is
Speaker 1: out head. Yeah, limertation because I said it right that
Speaker 1: you're limited. I ain't never telling about hand this nigga.
Speaker 6: Listen that your limit, you limiting you? You You please
Speaker 6: give me your story about Big. Give me a story
Speaker 6: about Big. This is my story about Big. If you
Speaker 6: follow my Instagram at Uncle van Rock. Deep down inside,
Speaker 6: I have a picture one of those polaroid joints that
Speaker 6: they prontoun slide the joining a Biggie. This was when
Speaker 6: he was first coming out, very early.
Speaker 1: Nineties, party of bullshit before that, somewhere in there.
Speaker 9: But somehow me and Biggie were down at Howard University
Speaker 9: and we was fucking with dj ron G tell you
Speaker 9: this story. That's the classics and all of that ship.
Speaker 9: But ge Ron, he was doing a party down in Howard.
Speaker 9: Somehow me and Big was down there and Ronni needed
Speaker 9: help with fucking crates. Yo, his crew wasn't even right.
Speaker 9: We were already rolling this naughty so I had crispy tims.
Speaker 9: If you look up this picture, Big had a little
Speaker 9: nasty tims on.
Speaker 13: He was he was still in that he was signed,
Speaker 13: but he was in the place stage when that first
Speaker 13: joint man and we.
Speaker 8: Helped ron G carry his fucking crates and that Howard joint.
Speaker 8: So me and Big y'all, and Big knew who I was,
Speaker 8: and we knew who Big was. He came into one
Speaker 8: of our shows, but Big Lincoln and then once we
Speaker 8: helped ron G, he was like, yo, Ven, let's take
Speaker 8: a picture.
Speaker 1: So we took the pictures, snapped up twice.
Speaker 8: He took one, and then he gave me one and
Speaker 8: he wrote down his beeper and his fucking home number
Speaker 8: on the joint.
Speaker 1: Hold on, talk him out. Make some noise for then
Speaker 1: having big people. That's hard Instagram the story, That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's hard, said people.
Speaker 6: You know, listen whenever I nigga say people number, you
Speaker 6: just gotta just got the fuck up.
Speaker 1: And just listen. And it's his big hand, right, they
Speaker 1: broke that ship. Give me a big story, all right.
Speaker 8: Well, this was like ninety five ninety six, where it
Speaker 8: was like tension between East West, how you're big Broman.
Speaker 1: We on tour, Nordy and bad Boy at that way
Speaker 1: talking about what let me just let me just let
Speaker 1: me just ye so you're gonna let me tell you,
Speaker 1: give me to think about this this then East Shot
Speaker 1: in New York. This fucking time back.
Speaker 8: On East West. All that with we tour with bad
Speaker 8: Boy and Pop Well for the first three for the
Speaker 8: first major tour translation for the first three four days.
Speaker 8: I'm like, yo, man, we and Santo, Yo, we all
Speaker 8: be at yo. Why you don't go out to these
Speaker 8: parties with me and me and Sugar two buggies.
Speaker 1: I said, my brother, hold on, when you're saying this,
Speaker 1: you're talking mat.
Speaker 8: I'm in the hotel. Were staying in the same hotel room.
Speaker 8: But they never left the hotel room.
Speaker 1: I never leave it.
Speaker 8: Relashship with that yo, man, Man fucking back you why
Speaker 8: you're the motherfucker they like it's in camp.
Speaker 1: The doors open there in the hotel, never going away.
Speaker 1: Why don't never go to the party when the week
Speaker 1: me and Shoot, I'm like, man, let me get this
Speaker 1: goddamn phone. That's when you had the phones like that,
Speaker 1: and Ship is long joints with you know, speak on
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, hey, what's up? Man? Who oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this ship up.
Speaker 8: I'm like we're poking, oh right here here, like what's up? Like, man,
Speaker 8: these niggas, I'm not on talk with these niggas, man.
Speaker 8: These niggas don't even want to go party with me
Speaker 8: or nothing.
Speaker 1: Man. These niggas like yo, man, what the niggas? Man?
Speaker 8: Telling him bit and Sugar like telling bitch that niggas
Speaker 8: go out with ship when you're gonna fuck out your money,
Speaker 8: you relative and family. He then l and all the
Speaker 8: redt I'm gonna make some backords. You're gonna buy him out.
Speaker 8: He gonna make records. We're gonna make money. Tell him
Speaker 8: up about the bitch that niggas go.
Speaker 1: Out And there I got. The niggas came out.
Speaker 8: They just coming out with the shiny suits every show
Speaker 8: like after that, the niggas came out with timbo boots
Speaker 8: and naughty boxes ties over those shirts and Junior Mafia
Speaker 8: his cheek. I got, I got big and ken little
Speaker 8: teen jortin Mafy going on the hood with me.
Speaker 1: A strip joints and shipped all of us and he's
Speaker 1: doing talk picked them up fucking night with puffing them
Speaker 1: fucking down. Puff here.
Speaker 8: You still ain't coming back with that last fucking sack
Speaker 8: and nigga, you got real slick.
Speaker 1: Look at Mama Comb's you know that's old g slat
Speaker 1: box y'all. You're that big bag. It would be nice
Speaker 1: to get to get puffed daddy. You know that's my melitary.
Speaker 1: That's how we talking. Little slap back, trans tell you
Speaker 1: did I slapped.
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Speaker 6: So let me end this conversation with this. I want
Speaker 6: to bid all three of you brothers up. And I
Speaker 6: want to say that again. Like I said in the
Speaker 6: beginning of the interview, when they said we're gonna get naughty,
Speaker 6: I said, yoh, we gonna get because sometimes noughty can
Speaker 6: be stole.
Speaker 30: He wo different configuration, my motherfucker five mille No, yeah,
Speaker 30: let me up more translation, maybe me questioning.
Speaker 1: Let me let me I'm gonna tell you this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what you got.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna tell you what you got, and everybody and
Speaker 9: the social media and all of this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all what y'all got.
Speaker 9: When Norty we had the problems a couple of years,
Speaker 9: my two brothers they went up to the Breakfast Club
Speaker 9: and they did an interview. So ever since then, this
Speaker 9: is the first interview, three of us yesing this kind
Speaker 9: of yes.
Speaker 1: So, so you brothers are doing yourll thing.
Speaker 8: I understand what y'are doing with your broadcast, understanding the platform,
Speaker 8: understand all of that. I understand advertising. I'm coming through
Speaker 8: with the sneak a couple.
Speaker 9: We're gonna put up that sponsorship money and do the
Speaker 9: right fucking once.
Speaker 1: Once to the pool and let's rock and let's rock out.
Speaker 8: Man, got it about created. It's about being created. But
Speaker 8: we've got the tools gnormous. It's about being created. It
Speaker 8: ain't about blaming nobody. Translation, he's going to be in
Speaker 8: office with them and the mayor and.
Speaker 1: The sleet, the warriors.
Speaker 8: Know when you we do this whole movement and all
Speaker 8: this ship, we all rolling together deep and we're gonna
Speaker 8: have all your anybody and this motherfucker and anything else.
Speaker 1: And take it to these station. They're gonna play a
Speaker 1: translations all the fans right there.
Speaker 6: Is the next Naughty mother war because KG got all
Speaker 6: the beasts and y'all copy of.
Speaker 8: The fucking tracks that we fucking dated and everything.
Speaker 1: Really get back in that before we.
Speaker 8: Closed out, I got tied the five rights, the fans
Speaker 8: of your time.
Speaker 6: The fans gonna kill us. When is the next real
Speaker 6: naughty by nature? And listen, let me just tell you something.
Speaker 6: Don't cut me off because I know you're about to come,
Speaker 6: but listen, listen. We need the next Nobody the child
Speaker 6: and we are aware of technology, so we are aware
Speaker 6: of the reason why music sucks now because back in
Speaker 6: the days.
Speaker 1: When we made music. Don't cut me off, nobody, listen.
Speaker 1: The reason why the music, the reason why the music was.
Speaker 6: So great back then is because I couldn't send you
Speaker 6: an email, No big them rape what's some ships the rails.
Speaker 6: The niggas ain't want to bring them, so you had
Speaker 6: to go to a person studio to make that music.
Speaker 1: Just listen.
Speaker 6: This is why music is disposable nowadays, because eating what
Speaker 6: you recorded on is it disposable?
Speaker 1: Back then, you can't do that. You couldn't throw that
Speaker 1: doorph away. That niggas a dolph translation a little, and
Speaker 1: he wants us to come to queens. No, I want
Speaker 1: y'all trans. They don't want to eat shipmanslation. I don't
Speaker 1: want y sounds.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean translation. You don't have to come to
Speaker 8: the Yeah, I'm not unless KG is producing.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe. And somebody say that, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's real. So some people will argue if you
Speaker 1: have woul tang record and rigid and produce it.
Speaker 6: To be, I don't can't rison, don't produce it as
Speaker 6: long assid around.
Speaker 1: That man dre and doing range and put it together.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about doing He's got that.
Speaker 8: It was great and in that believe you want to producing.
Speaker 8: That makes it's different. It's the brand that fixed what
Speaker 8: it does. And that's like an original. Eagles were the
Speaker 8: hip hop Eagles. Yeah all right then, nigga, I'm the
Speaker 8: Giants nigga.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: Really this man, let's go Eagles fans gonna trying that
Speaker 8: Eagles nigga, you do even want to be in the
Speaker 8: hip hop rollings.
Speaker 1: I just make trench being the drunkest nigga in the
Speaker 1: building and that every where.
Speaker 8: Boy, there's always can joke nigga to put it on
Speaker 8: you and run the show and ship.
Speaker 1: I was thinking your shoe called trip traps and he
Speaker 1: o than me. He won, He's done. I'm usually.
Speaker 11: You can't.
Speaker 1: He won you right there? Yeah, Puff took god ship.
Speaker 1: Listen you.
Speaker 6: Because we used to have a little chalice like the
Speaker 6: nigga that won. But Puff came here like a trophy,
Speaker 6: a trophy and he took every drink from every table.
Speaker 6: But we don't have the foul and ship that we
Speaker 6: had before because we let your limitation right so, and
Speaker 6: he took it with him. He's a foul every algorithm
Speaker 6: in there.
Speaker 8: And question, has this motherfucker here that I know all
Speaker 8: this goddamn time, for these decades, has this motherfucker ever
Speaker 8: won the drunken motherfucker ship?
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that.
Speaker 8: It with you.
Speaker 1: And then you got kicked out of the hotel because
Speaker 1: I told you you couldn't smoke.
Speaker 8: Remember the translation, you're a translation translation. You didn't get
Speaker 8: hit down, n because you didn't get kicked out.
Speaker 31: You would say that in front of you ain't gonna
Speaker 31: hooked out charge tell me you want that freet say
Speaker 31: you missed me. You want some motion, niggas you say,
Speaker 31: flight to listen, niggas says, I remember this.
Speaker 1: I made you miss your lightly because you was in
Speaker 1: the room smoking when me. You told me that you smoking.
Speaker 1: I gave you a good way and you roll terrible?
Speaker 1: Can I leave this us? Yours me is good? You Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the real smoking Bee said nigga was smoking? Yo. No, no,
Speaker 1: I tell you not to smoking the room. Yeah, why
Speaker 1: you say? What did you tell me? You said I smoke?
Speaker 1: Getting Why you ain't here smoking with me?
Speaker 8: You weren't smoking the room, you wouldn't be there, and.
Speaker 1: Then went downstairs and this saying here you charged me.
Speaker 1: I said, I told you.
Speaker 8: Like I was.
Speaker 1: I was just telling them story. Listen.
Speaker 6: Listen then track kg on behalf of hip hop d
Speaker 6: J E fend drink Champs as it it sounds drained.
Speaker 1: Rich Blanco's the lead. You know, Sonny d b T.
Speaker 6: You know, pray for d C Twins, everybody, you know,
Speaker 6: all my people, Hockey and Green. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We want to salute you for what you did to
Speaker 6: hip hop, for raising us. Most of us wouldn't have
Speaker 6: been raised right if we didn't know that there's other
Speaker 6: people's pussy up there, so relax, it's not.
Speaker 1: Your pussy people.
Speaker 6: People, we would have never been raised right if we
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Speaker 29: we started, We went to high.
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