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Speaker 1: of Vegas holding that press conference, FBI agent responsible for

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Speaker 1: that division that area. The Vegas Sheriff also basically, of course,

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Speaker 1: covering what happened when a Tesla cybertruck exploded outside the

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Speaker 1: Trump Las Vegas Hotel. That was hours after a deadly

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Speaker 1: attack in New Orleans, French Quarter on New Year's Eve

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Speaker 1: that killed at least fifteen people, injured dozens. The cyber

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Speaker 1: truck explosion, killing the driver and injuring seven others. But tim,

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Speaker 1: now we know the driver, We're getting more information about

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Speaker 1: what happened leading right up to that explosion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Las Vegas Police have identified a Matthew Leiveelsberger

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Speaker 2: as the suspect, but they still need to get DNA

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Speaker 2: to identify the suspect. The suspect did have a gunshot

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Speaker 2: wound to the head before blast. The sheriff did note

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Speaker 2: that he believed it was self inflicted, but has yet

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Speaker 2: to be confirmed. Las Vegas Police Carol also not aware

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Speaker 2: of any other subjects in this case.

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Speaker 1: I think what's also key as these two two incidents

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Speaker 1: that connections. Not ready to rule in, not ready to

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Speaker 1: rule out, is what we heard from that press conference.

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Speaker 1: Comment made that very strange similarities with the case in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans in terms of what happened in Vegas. The

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Speaker 1: motivation unknown for the cyber truck blast at that Vegas

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Speaker 1: Trump Vegas Hotel. That coming from the FBI, no ideology

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Speaker 1: leading to either the President elect, nor to Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: nor to Tesla, So there is still more to be known.

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Speaker 2: You should know Tesla staff is planning to arrive this

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Speaker 2: afternoon to assist with the probe. We just heard that

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Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. The FBI also

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Speaker 2: saying that the blast is being investigated globally, but there's

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Speaker 2: no current evidence connecting the subject to a terror group.

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Speaker 1: But I still say, will say just one last point

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Speaker 1: of their community. At this point, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: broader security implications for the United States. Nick Wattams is

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Speaker 1: back with US National Security Team leader at Bloomberg News.

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Speaker 1: He joined from our DC Bureau. A lot going on.

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Speaker 1: We continue to get some more elements to this story,

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Speaker 1: more information, Nick, But what are you hearing from your

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Speaker 3: Well, it looks like the biggest question now has essentially

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Speaker 3: what was the connection between these two incidents. Obviously during

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Speaker 3: there were certain similarities, but officials are now saying essentially

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Speaker 3: that they see no direct connection between these two attacks.

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Speaker 3: There had been some reporting that the two suspects there

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Speaker 3: were both obviously US military veterans, may have overlapped briefly

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Speaker 3: when they served. But for the moment, that looks like

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Speaker 3: there was no though that was you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: looking globally so trying to figure out what putting each

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Speaker 3: of these attacks in their context. Obviously, there was the

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Speaker 3: New Orleans attack, the suspect had an Islamic state flag

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Speaker 3: ruling out the possibility that, you know, these may have

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Speaker 4: So that's still a big unknown that we're looking into.

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Speaker 2: What surprised me or was What really struck me nick

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Speaker 2: officials were very quick to say this was terrorism. It's

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Speaker 3: That, well, a very orny and sensitive issue, how these

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Speaker 3: The big question there again is was this suspect inspired

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Speaker 4: But we're still trying to answer all those questions.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, and Nick, you know, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: do have a fairmount more answers as you are laying

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Speaker 1: But what's top of mind for you in terms of

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, really there's the very interesting

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Speaker 3: some similarities there that really begs some big questions, and

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Speaker 1: Right that one response by one of the officials at

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Speaker 1: Nick Wadhams, he's National Security team leader right here at

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg News, joining us right there from our bureau in

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Speaker 2: From Washington, DC, now to Detroit. I want to bring

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Speaker 2: this and then some other Tesla news that we learned

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Speaker 2: a little earlier today that Tesla's annual vehicle sales dropped

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Speaker 2: a result. We're going to get to that in just

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Speaker 2: a minute, Keith, but I do want to start with

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Speaker 2: with finding information from this cyber truck that yesterday had

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Speaker 2: an explosive device or explosive devices in it. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: for people who aren't familiar with these vehicles, these have

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Speaker 2: outside well for sure.

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Speaker 5: So you know, modern vehicles, particularly Tesla's, are highly sophisticated.

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Speaker 5: They have a lot of devices that record what goes

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Speaker 5: provide a lot of important information if you're doing an

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Speaker 5: investigation like this. You know, we have two incidents yesterday,

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Speaker 5: the attack in New Orleans on Bourbon Street, and that

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Speaker 5: way modern cars, particularly electric vehicles, so these are both

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Speaker 5: this investigation goes on, I got to.

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Speaker 1: Ask you, Keith. Okay, and again forgive us folks, because

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Speaker 1: we're trying to be very careful here and really just

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Speaker 1: talk about facts and stuff. But is it interesting that

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean one way to look at that, And

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Speaker 5: is very heavy that adds thousands of pounds of weight

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Speaker 2: Keith, what do you make of the Turo connection here?

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks might be familiar with

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Speaker 5: Right, And Turo, you know, it can be a little

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Speaker 5: bit like automotive Airbnb. Sometimes it's individuals who are renting

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Speaker 5: out their exotic cars. Turo has been known for exotics

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Speaker 5: and for electric vehicles. We don't know, or I don't

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Speaker 5: help with that, but it is it is a rental

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Speaker 5: traditionally that has rented more exotic cars, different cars, electric vehicles,

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Speaker 1: us in Detroit.