1
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,320
Speaker 1: And our two Sean Hannity Show toll free.

2
00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,840
Speaker 2: It is eight hundred and ninety four one Sean if

3
00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,520
Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program. Joining

4
00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:15,480
Speaker 2: us now is Republican presidential candidate bak Ramaswami, who's has

5
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,400
Speaker 2: got a lot of notice by everybody, is doing really well, respected,

6
00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,640
Speaker 2: very respectable in the polls, and clearly was a target

7
00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,040
Speaker 2: in the first Republican primary debate.

8
00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,440
Speaker 1: He joins us, Now, how are.

9
00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,520
Speaker 3: You, sir, good at ducky Sean, how are you.

10
00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,240
Speaker 1: You loving like the time in the limelight here?

11
00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,480
Speaker 3: I bet I'm enjoying the debate because I think it's

12
00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,600
Speaker 3: smoking out some real important divisions, and I think good

13
00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000
Speaker 3: divisions for us to have in the Republican Party, for

14
00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,560
Speaker 3: us to decide who we are and what we stand for.

15
00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,920
Speaker 3: And I think that the debate was a healthy step

16
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,680
Speaker 3: in getting there. So yes, I am enjoying it, and

17
00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,840
Speaker 3: I think it's good for our party.

18
00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,800
Speaker 2: I think it's important that we hear from a variety

19
00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,520
Speaker 2: of people. Look, with the higher profile comes more criticism.

20
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,640
Speaker 2: I hate this because this is something I've complained about

21
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,720
Speaker 2: as a conservative for years. Is every two years, four years,

22
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,960
Speaker 2: and it's pretty much evolved into every day is this

23
00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,240
Speaker 2: false characterization of Republicans being racist and sexist and misogynist

24
00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,520
Speaker 2: and homophobic and xenophobic and islamophobic, and they want dirty

25
00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,720
Speaker 2: air and water, and they want to throw Granny and

26
00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,399
Speaker 2: Grandpa over a cliff, or at least top Republicans do.

27
00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 2: And it's just a croc And I'm sick and tired

28
00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,200
Speaker 2: of the lie that is being perpetrated. And I think

29
00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,160
Speaker 2: you were a victim of this. You took issue with

30
00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Congresswoman Presley saying we don't need any more black faces

31
00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,000
Speaker 2: that don't want to be a black voice.

32
00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,000
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

33
00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that assuming that what you know, one

34
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 2: race of people all think the same.

35
00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 1: It's just total bs.

36
00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,160
Speaker 3: It is, and I think it is fundamental racism at

37
00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,720
Speaker 3: its worst. And the analogy I made it if you

38
00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240
Speaker 3: think about people in the CA cake Hey, a century

39
00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,080
Speaker 3: or two ago, what did they say, shut up, sit down,

40
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,639
Speaker 3: do as you're told. If you have a black face,

41
00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,960
Speaker 3: you're only allowed to think certain things or behave in

42
00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,400
Speaker 3: certain ways. That was wrong then, and it is wrong

43
00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 3: if Aana Presley says it today. And I think we

44
00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,480
Speaker 3: have to call out racism and its ugliness in all

45
00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,320
Speaker 3: of its forms.

46
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,920
Speaker 1: But the criticism came on this part.

47
00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320
Speaker 2: And maybe you could explain it to us because you

48
00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,040
Speaker 2: said that, you said she was part of the modern KKK,

49
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,200
Speaker 2: now the Klan known for lynching people because of the

50
00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,320
Speaker 2: color of their skin or their religious views.

51
00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I said is she's like a modern

52
00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,280
Speaker 3: grand Wizard of the KKK. And the reason why is

53
00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,800
Speaker 3: the old KKK from the eighteen hundreds, in the early

54
00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,720
Speaker 3: nineteen hundred, that's defunct. It's dead, it's mostly gone in

55
00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,000
Speaker 3: the United States of America, whatever vestige is left as

56
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,640
Speaker 3: a joke. But the real racism that corporate America and

57
00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,799
Speaker 3: universities and other parts of our culture do pay it

58
00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,240
Speaker 3: to are the likes of racist statements made by Iona

59
00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,200
Speaker 3: Presley or Ibram Kendy, but celebrate them today. And so

60
00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,120
Speaker 3: I think that's what my point was, Sean, is we

61
00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,680
Speaker 3: have to wake our eyes up to the fact that

62
00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,480
Speaker 3: the old KKK is irrelevant. But the racist ideologies of

63
00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320
Speaker 3: saying that you have to think a certain way because

64
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,000
Speaker 3: you have black skin or brown skin, that is the

65
00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,399
Speaker 3: same racism that's now popping up in a new avatar.

66
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,959
Speaker 3: And that's what deserves to be called out in the

67
00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440
Speaker 3: name of fighting racism. We have created a new epidemic

68
00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,640
Speaker 3: of so called anti racism, but it's really just racism

69
00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 3: and new clothing. And yes, I think we have to

70
00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,280
Speaker 3: be able to talk about that in the open. I

71
00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,040
Speaker 3: know that offends some people, but you know what, in

72
00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720
Speaker 3: this country, the way we're going to reunite America is

73
00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,880
Speaker 3: by all of us starting to talk openly again. And

74
00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,280
Speaker 3: I can tell you, Sean, the number of people who

75
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,000
Speaker 3: agree with me on what I said. That's most people

76
00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 3: in this country. But many of them know that if

77
00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 3: they say it in public, they're at risk of losing

78
00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,800
Speaker 3: their jobs, risk of their kids getting a back.

79
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560
Speaker 2: For example. We live in a woke world. It's something

80
00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,120
Speaker 2: we all talk about and but yet one there are

81
00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,480
Speaker 2: certain groups of people that can be attacked with without

82
00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,880
Speaker 2: any ramifications. If you are African American and you are

83
00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,440
Speaker 2: a conservative. The names that very close friends of mine

84
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 2: have been called just because they're conservative and they're African American.

85
00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it is. It is repulsive on so many

86
00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,599
Speaker 2: different levels. You've seen it too.

87
00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,960
Speaker 3: I've seen it too. I mean people have called me

88
00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 3: Uncle Tom plenty of times, even in this campaign. But

89
00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,320
Speaker 3: of the matter is.

90
00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,080
Speaker 1: But by the way, who called you that? I want

91
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,320
Speaker 1: to know?

92
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,240
Speaker 3: Oh, lots of people online on social media and otherwise. Absolutely,

93
00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,200
Speaker 3: it's happened multiple times in this over the course of

94
00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,720
Speaker 3: this campaign, even in the early phases of it, when

95
00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,799
Speaker 3: they were shocked that how could this guy who's educated,

96
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240
Speaker 3: whose parents came from another country, who has a funny name,

97
00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,080
Speaker 3: and who has brown skin, how could he be saying

98
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,320
Speaker 3: these heretical things. And the fact of the matter is, Sean,

99
00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm speaking the truth. I want to reunite this country.

100
00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960
Speaker 3: I think our problem is we have actually celebrated our

101
00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,000
Speaker 3: diversity and our differences so much that we've forgot all

102
00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,560
Speaker 3: of the ways we're really just the same as American

103
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,000
Speaker 3: and so yes, I do think on one hand, Sean,

104
00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,440
Speaker 3: and I am doing this is calling out that woe hypocrisy,

105
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,479
Speaker 3: call it out unsparingly, saying out loud what most people

106
00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,440
Speaker 3: think but feel afraid to say. But on the other hand,

107
00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm doing it not just for the sake of provoking conversation,

108
00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,280
Speaker 3: but because I want to reunite this nation. I do

109
00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,680
Speaker 3: not think our diversity is our strength. I think our

110
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,680
Speaker 3: strength is what unites us across that diversity e pluribus

111
00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,640
Speaker 3: unum means from many one, that's what we need to

112
00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,640
Speaker 3: revive in this country. As a member of a different generation, yes,

113
00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,120
Speaker 3: as a first generation American who has lived the full

114
00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,320
Speaker 3: American dream, I think it is my responsibility to do

115
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,839
Speaker 3: that for the next generation. That's what we're doing in

116
00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,280
Speaker 3: this race.

117
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,479
Speaker 2: We talked about far policy last night. Let's start with

118
00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 2: the premise that we both agree on. I think that

119
00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,160
Speaker 2: America giving up energy independence that Donald Trump had achieved

120
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,599
Speaker 2: as president for the first time in seventy five years,

121
00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 2: is hurting the American people on economic issues. Donald Trump

122
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440
Speaker 2: as president, not one time did the average price at

123
00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,760
Speaker 2: gasoline nationally ever go to three dollars a gallon, Not once.

124
00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,160
Speaker 2: And now we're up at four dollars a gallon yet again,

125
00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 2: and in many states it's over five dollars a gallon. Well,

126
00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,279
Speaker 2: that means, you know, the price of desil even higher.

127
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,640
Speaker 2: That means that every product we buy, every store we

128
00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,200
Speaker 2: go to, is going to cost more. And then also,

129
00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 2: I believe we're compromising our national security. And we have

130
00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,719
Speaker 2: all the natural resources. We have enough energy, oil, gas

131
00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,600
Speaker 2: coal to fuel this country and our allies for two

132
00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,479
Speaker 2: hundred plus years. Those are known reserves as of now,

133
00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240
Speaker 2: and you add nuclear to the equation, you know we're

134
00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,520
Speaker 2: talking about five hundred years probably. But again, none of

135
00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,359
Speaker 2: this is allowed because of the climate alarmist religious cult,

136
00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,040
Speaker 2: as I call it. So I think a lot of

137
00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,400
Speaker 2: your foreign policy views would be resolved, that our economic

138
00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,600
Speaker 2: problems would be solved just by becoming energy and dependent.

139
00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,440
Speaker 3: Again dead correct, Sean. And even in my last career

140
00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,680
Speaker 3: before I ran for president, I started a company to

141
00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,840
Speaker 3: drive that pushed back against this ESG cancer in our

142
00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,520
Speaker 3: capital market. I sometimes have quipped that ESG really stands

143
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,280
Speaker 3: for export Soviet Gas, because that's the effect that it's

144
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,840
Speaker 3: had on the modern West, telling American companies like Chevron

145
00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520
Speaker 3: that they have to limit their carbon emissions or Exxon,

146
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 3: when in fact that just empowers people on the other

147
00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,520
Speaker 3: side of the world, in places like Russia and China

148
00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,120
Speaker 3: that don't adopt those same constraints. To my view, as

149
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,280
Speaker 3: US president, what am I going to do. We're going

150
00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,520
Speaker 3: to unlock drilling, fracking, burning coal, embracing nuclear. That's how

151
00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320
Speaker 3: we actually stand strong economically. It's how we fight inflation,

152
00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,600
Speaker 3: it's how we deliver economic growth, but it is also

153
00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:08,080
Speaker 3: how we reduce reliance on foreign autocrats that are stronger

154
00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680
Speaker 3: when we are constraining our own energy production here at home.

155
00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,080
Speaker 3: That's the easiest thing I can do as the next

156
00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,560
Speaker 3: US president, because a lot of this is done through

157
00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,400
Speaker 3: the toxic administrative state, through the EPA, through the Department

158
00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,800
Speaker 3: of Interior, through the US Energy Department. Those report into

159
00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,040
Speaker 3: the executive branch of government. And my view, Shan, is

160
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960
Speaker 3: there is one executive branch led by one President of

161
00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,280
Speaker 3: the United States, president who's elected by the people. And

162
00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,360
Speaker 3: that's why I think, more than any US president in

163
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,000
Speaker 3: modern history, I will shut down that administrative state on

164
00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,880
Speaker 3: strong legal authority, rescind the unconstitutional federal regulation that Congress

165
00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,520
Speaker 3: never gave the power to those agencies to pass seventy

166
00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,440
Speaker 3: five percent headcount reduction amongst the federal employee headcount. And

167
00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,560
Speaker 3: I have a deep understanding of the law, Sean that

168
00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,840
Speaker 3: I think part of what happened is a duped President Trump.

169
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,720
Speaker 3: The advisor class told him they couldn't do it because

170
00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,760
Speaker 3: of civil service protections. Well, if you read the law,

171
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,120
Speaker 3: those civil service protections only protect against individual employee firing.

172
00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,800
Speaker 3: They do not apply to mass layoffs, and math layoffs

173
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 3: are absolutely what I am bringing to the DC bureaucracy

174
00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160
Speaker 3: in our shadow government, and I think that is how

175
00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,800
Speaker 3: we unlock the economy, how we unlock the energy sector.

176
00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,880
Speaker 3: America stands stronger on the global stage when we do.

177
00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,920
Speaker 3: That's how I'm going to lead to the next president.

178
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920
Speaker 2: Let me go to three hotspots around the world. I

179
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,880
Speaker 2: want to start in Ukraine, and let me let me

180
00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,680
Speaker 2: lay out lay a foundation here. All of this is

181
00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,400
Speaker 2: predicated on some that we agree on. Had America remained

182
00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,760
Speaker 2: energy independent Vladimir and we had the energy resources, we

183
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,880
Speaker 2: could be an energy rich, filthy rich nation. We could

184
00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,319
Speaker 2: pay down the thirty seven trillion in debt, we wouldn't

185
00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,200
Speaker 2: have to tax the American people to the extent we

186
00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240
Speaker 2: do if we again held on to that. But it also,

187
00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,400
Speaker 2: and you stated this last night, you were right in

188
00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,080
Speaker 2: your observation that Vladimir Putin wouldn't be able to finance

189
00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,240
Speaker 2: his war with Ukraine had we been energy independent. So

190
00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,559
Speaker 2: but with that said, you know, I do not have

191
00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,840
Speaker 2: a problem when you see evil, and I believe Putin

192
00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,240
Speaker 2: is evil, and you see him targeting innocent men, women

193
00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,200
Speaker 2: and children, and hospitals and neighborhoods and apartment buildings and

194
00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,680
Speaker 2: just you know, just pure outright evil and the destruction

195
00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 2: of a country and the invasion of a foreign country.

196
00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,959
Speaker 2: I do have more problem I think I have more

197
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 2: problems with this with you. However, this is where I

198
00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,040
Speaker 2: say American involvement has to be predicated and it's not so.

199
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't support a penny right now going to Ukraine,

200
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,200
Speaker 2: not one cent. It has to be predicated on two things.

201
00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,960
Speaker 2: Europe steps up to protect their continent one and they

202
00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 2: have got to bear the burden of that.

203
00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:00,880
Speaker 1: First.

204
00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,400
Speaker 2: American support can come in behind that. But one other

205
00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,360
Speaker 2: thing has to happen. And Joe Biden took took on

206
00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,280
Speaker 2: all this financial burden and Europe says, fine, let America

207
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360
Speaker 2: pay for it. They have contributed, did not contribute their

208
00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,760
Speaker 2: fair share. And then he vetoed twenty eight bigs that

209
00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,560
Speaker 2: Poland was offering early in the conflict. That was a

210
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,920
Speaker 2: signal to me that he just wants to create another quagmire.

211
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,760
Speaker 2: And uh, an American you know, uh, you know, being

212
00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 2: involved in these endless wars. If you know, if you're

213
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,840
Speaker 2: going to support a war, you either support it to

214
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,760
Speaker 2: win it or stay the hell out of it.

215
00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,760
Speaker 3: So, and I will say a couple of things. Sean.

216
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,280
Speaker 3: I think we have a good foundation of agreement on

217
00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,000
Speaker 3: a lot of things, and I think your view is

218
00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,280
Speaker 3: a really reasonable one, even though my view is slightly different.

219
00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,520
Speaker 3: I think yours is reasonable. But I would go one

220
00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,680
Speaker 3: step further to say we need to end this war

221
00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,240
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of evil on the global stage.

222
00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,079
Speaker 3: It's not just one man, Vladimir Putin. I think the

223
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,559
Speaker 3: Communist Party of is evil, and I worry that we

224
00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,200
Speaker 3: are pushing Russia even closer into China's arms.

225
00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,360
Speaker 1: As we see it, I think it's worse than that.

226
00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it's already happened.

227
00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,160
Speaker 2: I think I called the new access of evil China

228
00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440
Speaker 2: Russia in our.

229
00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,160
Speaker 3: Eyes, Sean, there are some cracks in that armor. Russia

230
00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,760
Speaker 3: has quietly sent weapons to places like India and Vietnam

231
00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,360
Speaker 3: to send a signal to China. They're not opening up

232
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,600
Speaker 3: access to the ocean that China wants in northeast China.

233
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,600
Speaker 3: So there are cracks in that armor. We have to

234
00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,280
Speaker 3: exploit that by saying, this is our moment to do

235
00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,160
Speaker 3: the single most important thing we could do in our

236
00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,200
Speaker 3: foreign policy I believe in this century, which is to

237
00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,040
Speaker 3: pull apart in the Russia China alliance. And here's how

238
00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,120
Speaker 3: I would do it. I would do it by using

239
00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,199
Speaker 3: Ukraine in part as a way to achieve that goal,

240
00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,319
Speaker 3: by saying that we'll freeze the current lines of control,

241
00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,559
Speaker 3: make a permanent commitment that NATO will not admit Ukraine

242
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,719
Speaker 3: to NATO. Yes, those are wins for Putin, I admit that,

243
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,319
Speaker 3: but that comes with the bigger condition. The bigger win

244
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,319
Speaker 3: for US is that they have to exit their military

245
00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,240
Speaker 3: treaty and partnership with China. They also have to remove

246
00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 3: their nuclear weapons from Kaliningrad, the region of Poland that

247
00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,480
Speaker 3: borders the region Russia that borders Poland, and also remove

248
00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,880
Speaker 3: any Russian military presence from the Western hemisphere, which people

249
00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,760
Speaker 3: forget they have in Nicaragua and Venezuela and Cuba. Gets

250
00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,719
Speaker 3: them out of the Western hemisphere. That's dangerous for the

251
00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 3: United States. That I think is a diplomatic victory like

252
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,640
Speaker 3: what Nixon delivered in nineteen seventy two. Because Maozadong he

253
00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200
Speaker 3: was evil. Did we trust Maozadong? No, we did not.

254
00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,439
Speaker 3: But Nixon got Mao out of the class of the USSR.

255
00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,760
Speaker 3: And it was a historic feat that Nixon accomplished. It

256
00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,000
Speaker 3: took an outsider.

257
00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,079
Speaker 2: Inill's after Mao killed forty million people and starved them

258
00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,440
Speaker 2: to death.

259
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,720
Speaker 3: But that's exactly but I think that you hated what

260
00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,600
Speaker 3: he needed to do for the United States of America.

261
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,079
Speaker 3: Now was evil, that's my point, even on a bigger

262
00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,640
Speaker 3: scale than Putin was. But he pulled them apart from

263
00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,640
Speaker 3: the USSR because the USSR was the main threat. Well,

264
00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,040
Speaker 3: today it's thee See.

265
00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,080
Speaker 2: My worry though, is if you look at Mao in

266
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,080
Speaker 2: China and Stalin and Russia and Nazism and Hitler in

267
00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 2: Germany and Mussolini and fascism and uh you know, Tojo

268
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,160
Speaker 2: and Japan and the killing fields of Cambodi in the

269
00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,720
Speaker 2: last century.

270
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole book about it.

271
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,120
Speaker 2: You know, you're dealing with over one hundred million souls murdered,

272
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,080
Speaker 2: slaughtered by governments. And that's That's one of the reasons

273
00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,320
Speaker 2: why I would like to understand that we do have

274
00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,400
Speaker 2: an obligation to stop evil before it grows, or we

275
00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,720
Speaker 2: will ultimately find ourselves in a similar situation like World

276
00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,120
Speaker 2: War Two?

277
00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,480
Speaker 3: Would we not Well, I think that if we had

278
00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,440
Speaker 3: an opportunity to pull Germany apart from Japan earlier on,

279
00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,400
Speaker 3: we would have gone back and done it in an instant,

280
00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 3: and I think that that's the opportunity we have now

281
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,320
Speaker 3: between Russia and China. China is undoubtedly shown the bigger threat.

282
00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,280
Speaker 2: We face in I want to get to the China

283
00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,080
Speaker 2: question in Taiwan. Do you want to stick around a

284
00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,400
Speaker 2: little bit?

285
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:00,920
Speaker 1: You have time?

286
00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's only seven hundred and twenty five stations

287
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160
Speaker 2: that want to hear you. They get to hear me

288
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,720
Speaker 2: every day anyway, eight hundred and nine to point one, Shawn.

289
00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,440
Speaker 2: These are important questions because you know what evil exists

290
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,440
Speaker 2: and what's America's role in the world. It's We've got

291
00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,520
Speaker 2: to become from a position of strength. The biggest strength

292
00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,920
Speaker 2: we get is through energy, but nobody wants to talk

293
00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,240
Speaker 2: about that. On the left, we'll take a break. We'll

294
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960
Speaker 2: come back more with Vivak Ramaswami on the other side,

295
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,720
Speaker 2: Republican presidential candidate.

296
00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 1: As we continue.

297
00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,280
Speaker 2: Twenty five to the top of the hour of a

298
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760
Speaker 2: vike Ramaswami, we we'll get back to him in a minute.

299
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,160
Speaker 2: I want to remind you the Tunnel to Towers Foundation

300
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,000
Speaker 2: is delivering on their promise to do good. Never forget

301
00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,720
Speaker 2: the sacrifices of America's greatest heroes all they have done

302
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600
Speaker 2: for all of us. Heroes that risk their lives to

303
00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 2: keep our communities and our country safe. Heroes like US

304
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,720
Speaker 2: Marine Corps Captain Pilot Jeremy Sachs. Sacks sustained fatal injuries

305
00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,400
Speaker 2: when his military air craft crash during a training exercise,

306
00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,000
Speaker 2: killing him and five other service members. Now he's remembered

307
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,200
Speaker 2: by loved ones as courageous, brilliant, devoted to career, family, friends,

308
00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,440
Speaker 2: and survived by his wife, Amber, who gave birth to

309
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,560
Speaker 2: their second daughter three months after his death. How sad

310
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,640
Speaker 2: Anyway Tunnel to Towers came in and they paid off

311
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 2: the family mortgage for Amber the two girls, and the

312
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,840
Speaker 2: foundation has been helping over one thousand military first responder

313
00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,480
Speaker 2: families navigate the worst of times by removing the burden

314
00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,960
Speaker 2: of that mortgage payment. Our nation's heroes, they need our

315
00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360
Speaker 2: help more than ever. They're asking all of us, we're

316
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,760
Speaker 2: all committed here at Team Hannity, to donate and commit

317
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,800
Speaker 2: eleven bucks a month so this great work, this mission

318
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 2: can continue. Please go to their website. It's the letter T,

319
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,880
Speaker 2: the number two, the letter T dot org. The letter T,

320
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,800
Speaker 2: the number two, the letter t dot org. The Vake

321
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,360
Speaker 2: Ramaswami is with US Republican presidential candidate. By the way,

322
00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 2: I called you Vek, you know, on on air at

323
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 2: least during three interviews that I can think of. Why

324
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,520
Speaker 2: didn't you tell me a you idiot's Vivac?

325
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,760
Speaker 3: You know, Shoan. I appreciate best efforts, and we have

326
00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080
Speaker 3: three four minutes of those interviews. I'd rather be talking

327
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,360
Speaker 3: about something. We got it right off air.

328
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,920
Speaker 2: I meant, I meant absolutely nothing wrong there. I actually

329
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,840
Speaker 2: I had asked my broduco. I said, is it Viveka

330
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,320
Speaker 2: and they said, yeah, yeah, it's Vek, And I'm watching

331
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,400
Speaker 2: an interview and that's Avake. I'm like, oh geez. But anyway, thanks,

332
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,919
Speaker 2: thanks for sticking about this. Look, these issues involving Russia, China, Iran,

333
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,440
Speaker 2: the Middle East, I think are really really important. I

334
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,160
Speaker 2: think I think we pretty much found agreement on Ukraine

335
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,800
Speaker 2: and I completely But you know, again, it's all predicated

336
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,879
Speaker 2: if America did not abandon energy independence.

337
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,000
Speaker 1: I can that factor.

338
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 2: Alone has empowered and emboldened and enriched Vladimir Putin. So

339
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,200
Speaker 2: dumb all right now, this alliance that we're talking about Russia, China,

340
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,639
Speaker 2: Iran and probably I would assume North Korea gets involved.

341
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 2: I didn't like that the Chinese were brokering deals with

342
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 2: the Saudis and the Iranians and now the Saudis and

343
00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 2: the Syrians because they're peeling away American allies. I mean.

344
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,719
Speaker 2: Trump had done something that I thought was pretty amazing

345
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,159
Speaker 2: during his presidency, something I didn't think we'd see in

346
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,640
Speaker 2: our lifetime, and that is he was able to build

347
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 2: an alliance between the US, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, the Saudis,

348
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 2: the Emirates against the Iranian UA, against Iranian hegemony, and

349
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 2: to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. So this

350
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,720
Speaker 2: issue came up about the issue of Israel, and I

351
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 2: guess you're on Russell Brand's show, and you said, and

352
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,440
Speaker 2: this is the exact quote, come twenty twenty eight, additional

353
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 2: aid won't be necessary in order to have the kind

354
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 2: of stability we'd actually have in the Middle East by

355
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 2: having Israel more integrated with as partners. I think that

356
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 2: is a noble, lofty goal. We made more progress during

357
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: the Trump years than an I thought possible. We have

358
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 2: gone backwards since Trump left office, But the idea that

359
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 2: we would even think about in any way weakening that

360
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 2: alliance would be devastating to our national security.

361
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,120
Speaker 3: Lion, So I don't want to weaken the alliance, Sean.

362
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 3: And you know how politics works, right, every candidate will

363
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 3: seize on something you said and then exploit it to

364
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 3: mean something different. I'm not an establishment politician, right, I

365
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 3: don't read the standard Geope talking point. I talk about

366
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 3: these issues with independent thought. So I believe that our

367
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: relationship with Israel will be stronger by the end of

368
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 3: my first term than it has ever been. And what

369
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 3: I've said is we are not going to cut off

370
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 3: aid to Israel until the moment when Israel, as a

371
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 3: good friend of the US, tells us that they don't

372
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 3: need that aid anymore. And you know what, You know

373
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 3: who last was the last person to do that in

374
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties. It's the guy who's currently the Prime

375
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 3: Minister of Israel, Phoebe. Maybe there have been points in

376
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 3: our history where he's been very honest with So if

377
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 3: that's not by twenty twenty eight, then it's not by

378
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. But the point I made on the

379
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 3: Russell Brand podcast is what a mark of success it

380
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 3: would be if we led Abraham Accurt's two point zero

381
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: take the Trump agreement, but to the next level by

382
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: getting Saudi Arabia and Oman and cut her in there,

383
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 3: expand our partnership to advance a vital us objective of

384
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,719
Speaker 3: making sure that Iran never ever becomes nuclear equipped and

385
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 3: then if we ever reached it.

386
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 2: See, I think it came off different than that. And

387
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 2: I'm not being critical of you, and that's why you're here.

388
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 2: I want you to clarify it, you know, But I

389
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 2: think when you said that they need to stand on

390
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: their own two feet, it sounded almost like a drop

391
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: dead date mat.

392
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: But Sean, that's again, don't take the competitor campaign some

393
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: summations of it. I didn't say they need to stand

394
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 3: in their two feet. I said it would be a

395
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 3: victory if we ever got to the point where they would.

396
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 3: And I stand by that part. But the core emphasis

397
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: is I treat our relationship with Israel not as a

398
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: transactional relationship but as a friendship. Friends are honest with

399
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: each other, friends learn from each other. I would love

400
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: Israel's border policies and tough on crime policies, and their

401
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 3: iron dome and their national identity and the strength of it.

402
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: I would love that in this country.

403
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: Friends, lords, listen, let me tell you there's no greater

404
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: intelligence gathering state than Israel. There's no stronger military than Israel.

405
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 2: If we're really ever going to prevent a Ran from

406
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: getting nuclear weapons, Israel's going to be a big part

407
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: of that equation. And I think the United States should

408
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: be side by side with them on that, because so

409
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: do I.

410
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: And you know what else I love about the Israel

411
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: relationship that doesn't get talked about enough, shewn. They're a

412
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: model partner because they actually spend on their own national

413
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: defense right time. Ato and those other allies suppose allies,

414
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: they don't spend even their minimum two percent commitment, looking

415
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 3: like a Germany, for example, skimping out free riding on

416
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: the US. Israel actually spends on its own national defense.

417
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: And much of our aid to Israel runs through in

418
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: capacity here in the United States of America that helps

419
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: build up our own industrial base. That number is going

420
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: to be up to one hundred percent of our Israel

421
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: being provided domestically through our own infrastructure by twenty twenty eight. So,

422
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: of course this would be foolhardy. Of all the places

423
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 3: we could pick for rolling back, you know, we're talking

424
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: about another twenty five billion to go to Ukraine. Now

425
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: we're talking about three billion a year already going to Israel,

426
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: so that would be foolish to back off of that now.

427
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: But what I've said is, you know what we should

428
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: be ambitious. We should be ambitious to a future where

429
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 3: Israel is integrated into the economic and security infrastructure of

430
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: the Middle East, that it is so strong that Iran

431
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: has been defenestrated entirely as ever having a chance of

432
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: becoming a nuclear power. That we will work towards the

433
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: future where Bb tells me when he's the Prime Minister

434
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 3: and I'm the president or whoever the Prime minister is

435
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: in Israel, that there's a point in time where our

436
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: friendship continues, where we're honest with you that we're done

437
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: with that phase of our relationship the next one.

438
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: All right, let me move on and ask about the

439
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: Taiwan situation. And maybe it was misinterpreted by people, but

440
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: I want you to give you a chance to clarify it.

441
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: And that is again by twenty twenty eight. You know, once,

442
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: once we got it, once we were able to produce

443
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 2: enough of our semiconductor chips here in our country that

444
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: you would wage and support a way, and you talked

445
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: about going back to more ambiguous, and there's truth to

446
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: what you're saying about ambiguity as it relates to Taiwan. However,

447
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: every president usually in some ways said that will not happen,

448
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: and we will have their back if China obviously fulfills

449
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: their territorial ambition.

450
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: Let me be very clear about one thing, Sean, this

451
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: is just a hard fact. I am the only candidate

452
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: in either party who has had the courage to say

453
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: the following words, we will defend Taiwan. Nobody else does

454
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: because the current postor of the US towards China is

455
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 3: the One China policy. That is and has been the

456
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: US's position on Taiwan, One China that it is strategic ambiguity.

457
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: So much so that I will remind you you'll remember this.

458
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: In December of twenty sixteen, when Trump picked up the

459
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: phone for a congratulatory phone call from the Taiwanese president,

460
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: he was ridiculed for having the gall to break diplomatic protocol.

461
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: So that's where we are. Right of, the US does

462
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: not recognize Taiwan as a nation. It's a one China policy.

463
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: In fact, the US president cannot even talk to the

464
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: Taiwanese president. So against that status quo, I say, no,

465
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: we face so much risk that I'm going to have

466
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: the courage to step up and say we're going to

467
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 3: change strategic ambiguity and say I'm going to provide strategic clarity.

468
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: We will defend Taiwan at least until we get semiconductor independence,

469
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: which is to say, our entire modern way of life

470
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: depends on those chips that come from Taiwan. Our phones,

471
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: our refrigerators, our televisions. We can't have our modern way

472
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: of life be squatted on by communist China. And then

473
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: what I said is after we've achieved that we return

474
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: to the status quo sean exactly what our position is now.

475
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: And so what do establishment GOP politicians and establishment democrat

476
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: politicians do. They then caricature my view and say, oh, well,

477
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: leavek We'll leave Taiwan hanging out to dry until twenty

478
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 3: twenty eight, ignoring the fact that they're the ones who

479
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: are actually leaving Taiwan hang out to dry now by

480
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: adopting the One China policy. So I'm the only one

481
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: who has had the courage to say we will defend

482
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Taiwan and then we'll return to our current posture right now,

483
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: this posture of strategic ambiguity after we've achieved semiconductor independence.

484
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: This is how we deter China from going after Taiwan

485
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: while avoiding war, because Shiji Ping would have to be

486
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: a fool to indate Taiwan in the near term. What

487
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: I have been expressly clear that we will defend when

488
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm running one destroyer per week through the Taiwan Strait,

489
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: when I've moved to Ohio class SSGN loaded with Tomahawks,

490
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 3: to the South China Sea and to the Indian Ocean,

491
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: when I've created a partnership with India by the way,

492
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: to close the andom and sea where the Chinese get

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: their Middle Eastern oil supplies through.

494
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask this that.

495
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: That's so, and I have the offer the clearest plan sean.

496
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, then, what should

497
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: the consequences be for China for the following COVID nineteen

498
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: confronting our fighter jets and international airspace, flying their fighter

499
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: jets over Taiwan airspace on a regular basis and in

500
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: a hostile way, saber rattling, confronting our navy in international waters,

501
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: intellectual property, theft, unfair trade practices, all of which they

502
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: are guilty as hell at What would you do to

503
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: stop it?

504
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: By the way, let's keep going the Chinese spy balloons

505
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: flying over half the same Yeah, the Chinese spy base

506
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 3: in Cuba, spying on the southeastern portion of the US.

507
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: And kick them out of the WTO. They have no

508
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: place in the WTO. Letting them join the World Trade

509
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: Organization in the late ninety ninety or in the mid

510
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties was dead wrong.

511
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: And shouldn't we shouldn't we not be a part of

512
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: the WTO, the World Health Organization, the World Economic Form?

513
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: Is it a time for we shouldn't certainly be a

514
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: part of the Paris Accord? Shouldn't we get out of

515
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: all of it?

516
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: Well? I think we should. I mean, but I'm saying

517
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: that right now. Let's just start with the status qu

518
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: Kick China out on day one. Then they'll say, well

519
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: we have disbanded. I'll say, great, done with it, and

520
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: by I'd.

521
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Give them the un while we're out of too, they

522
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: can have it.

523
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: You know what, it's actually a great point shown people have.

524
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: Actually there's another one of the things the establishment has

525
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: really built before. I've also questioned our continued involvement in

526
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: the US. Why on Earth are we funding an organization

527
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: that is fundamentally hostile to our sovereignty in the United States.

528
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: I also think we need to declare economic independence from China.

529
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: If that were a Russian spy balloon, let's be honest,

530
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: we would have shot it down and ratchet it up

531
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: sanctions on Russia. The reason we didn't do it for

532
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 3: China is because we're dependent on them for our modern

533
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: way of life. And I think that is pathetic and

534
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: I think it's solvable. We can on shore a lot

535
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: of that to the US other relationships, even in industries

536
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: like pharmaceuticals with Israel, with India, with Japan, South Korea.

537
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: We can actually re enter bilateral relationships with other allies

538
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 3: on shore a lot of that to the US. And

539
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: that puts US in a position where we're no longer

540
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: tendent on our enemy for our modern way of life.

541
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: Because even in the last Cold War, we never depended

542
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: on the USSR for the shoes on our feet or

543
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: the phones in our pockets. We do depend on communists

544
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: China today for those things. That is a disaster, and

545
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: I will also hold China accountable for unleashing hell on

546
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: the world for the COVID nineteen pandemic, using every financial

547
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: lever we have available, because if we don't do that,

548
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: we can express we can expect far worse in the future.

549
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: That's how I'll lead.

550
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, We'll come back on the other side.

551
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: We'll check in with Tutor Dixon as it relates to

552
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: emails of Joe Biden, Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters, Jrbware. Wow,

553
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: can't wait to get a hold of these. As we

554
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: continue next our final roundup and information overload ours, we

555
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: continue now with Republican presidential candidate primary candidate Vivek Ramaswami's

556
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: with us. So, can I give you some un solicited

557
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: advice because obviously you're You're very intelligent, Your background is

558
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: beyond impressive. Your success speaks for itself. When people try

559
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: to drag you into arguments about nine to eleven or

560
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: any of these controversies, well, I don't know, there's no

561
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: proof of it. And you made your comments about nine

562
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: to eleven, for example, and you know, we, uh, the

563
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: truth about nine to eleven is still unknown. I think

564
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: we kind of know the people responsible and by the way,

565
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be giving plea deals to the al Qaeda five.

566
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: But I've never once brought up nine to eleven on

567
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: this campaign. I've only ever responded to a media question

568
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: when I got it, and.

569
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: They they ask aston nine questions. Do they want to

570
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: trap you?

571
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: They do? But you know what, I want to be

572
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: careful not to be afraid to speak the truth, which

573
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: is that Saudi Arabia, unfortunately, this hard, true and ugly

574
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: truth is one of their intelligence agents was indeed the

575
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: one who received that many of those terrorists who flew

576
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: those planes into those twin towers, and the government sadly

577
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: for years lied about it. Now there is a lawsuit

578
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: in New York's Southern District where those families are suing

579
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, where those facts are coming out, including from

580
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: documents that the FBI declassified last year and the year before.

581
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: The government still has documents are.

582
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: Hiding absolutely and so what Saudi Arabia involved? The answer, unfortunately,

583
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: the ugly truth is yet and there can't be these

584
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: taboo topics Sjohn, that we don't talk about, because part

585
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: of what's happening in this country today is whether it's

586
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: the hunter Biden laptop, or the Russia collusion hopes, or

587
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 3: the origin of COVID. We still have a government that

588
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: lies systematically to its people. But I don't see under

589
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: the rock either understood.

590
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: I just think that the media.

591
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: I think by now you're probably learning every day that

592
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: they don't have your best interest at heart, and they

593
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: hate anybody that says they're a Republican or a conservative.

594
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: I get it, and I think it's important for people

595
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: to hear from every candidate. I really do, and that's

596
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: that's the whole purpose of this exercise. We just had

597
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: a time, though I appreciate the time. Thank you for

598
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: being with us, and you welcome on this show and

599
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: my TV show whenever you want.

600
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sean.

601
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Take care eight hundred and ninety four to one, Sean,

602
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: if you want to be a part of the program.

603
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: I want to remind you about home title theft. Now,

604
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: let me ask you who opens your junk mail Google

605
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: The story of a mother. She started receiving junk mail

606
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: about mortgages and like most of us, just threw it

607
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: right in the trash. Anyway, one day, for whatever reason,

608
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: she looked a little closer, and it's a good thing.

609
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: She did a total stranger was now the legal owner

610
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: of her family home. Now, our friends at home title

611
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: lock dot com they've already shown all of us they

612
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: can do this. These these these cyber thieves are really

613
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: good at what they do in a bad way, and

614
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: they can rob your home in five to six minutes.

615
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Now that's all it takes for them.

616
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: That's why I have and I really strongly suggest you

617
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: protect your number one asset, that is your home with

618
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: home title lock dot com. They monitor what is the

619
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: largest database of property records in the US. They do

620
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: with twenty four to seven. They will alert you the

621
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: second anyone messes with your title. Then, of course, Home

622
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Title Locke's team of restoration specialists will lack fast to

623
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: save your home. And right now, our friends at home

624
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: title Locke will give you thirty days of protection free.

625
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: They'll also give you a free title scan to make

626
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: sure your home is verified in your name and you're

627
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: not already a victim. Just go to home title lock

628
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: dot com use the promo code Sean for this offer.

629
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: Home title lock dot Com promo code Seawan that's Sea

630
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: and protect your biggest investment