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Speaker 1: You know a lot of times, especially in pro football,

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Speaker 1: because you've got a billionaire owner and a coach making

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Speaker 1: between nine and a half and fourteen and a half million,

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Speaker 1: and you've got a quarterback making three hundred million. There's

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Speaker 1: you know there, we all know who's got the power

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's the owner, it's the star coach,

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Speaker 1: and it's the star quarterback. GMS Howie Roseman is a

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Speaker 1: total exception. Even John Snyder almost threatened to leave Seattle

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Speaker 1: as one of the top personnel guys unless he got

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Speaker 1: more power, and then Pete got pushed out. So in

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Speaker 1: the end, NFL we know who has the power in

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Speaker 1: the league. Like in college football, the coach has it.

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Speaker 1: Always the coach has it, or the big donor has it.

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Speaker 1: But in the football, you know, there's an old business

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Speaker 1: saying a problem well defined, is a problem half solved.

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Speaker 1: The bigger issue in the NFL isn't who has the power.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know where the Chargers, it's the owner,

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Speaker 1: the Spanos family, Jim Harbaugh and Herbert. Herbert just doesn't

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Speaker 1: use it. But in the NFL a lot of times

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Speaker 1: it's not who has the power, it's what's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You have a problem when people can't agree on what

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Speaker 1: the problem is. You know, the coach didn't he wasn't

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Speaker 1: hired by the GM. Like in Chicago right now, everybody

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Speaker 1: thinks the problems. Caleb Williams, I would argue the problem

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Speaker 1: with the Bears is the ownership and the executive suite.

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Speaker 1: I think the quarterback's really talented, and I think the

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Speaker 1: coach is really smart. You know, you can't get agreement.

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman has so much control in Philadelphia, he will

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Speaker 1: decide what the problems are and he will address them.

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Speaker 1: I think with Kansas City, we know everybody can agree

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Speaker 1: what the problem is because Brett Veach is a good

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Speaker 1: GM and Andy Reid's a brilliant coach, and Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest ever. We just know it's a

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Speaker 1: personnel issue. On offense, they've missed on a couple receivers.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's old and expensive. Mahomes is expensive and receivers

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Speaker 1: a hard position to draft. Even when they got it

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Speaker 1: right with Rashid Rice, he does something that's not very

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Speaker 1: smart and now he's suspended for six games. And then

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Speaker 1: you get Worthy and he's really good, but he's small,

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Speaker 1: runs into Kelsey and he gets hurt. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of Kansas City's issues are we know who has the power,

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Speaker 1: and we know it's not scheme. I think you have

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Speaker 1: to just everybody in the room has to go. Our

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Speaker 1: problem is here, we don't have good enough players. Dave

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Speaker 1: Wantstat has a belief on how to correct it, but

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Speaker 1: again I don't know if they have the personnel to

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Speaker 1: correct what Dave wants. Instead. Who was our guest earlier

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Speaker 1: has as a solution.

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Speaker 3: That Eagle Super Bowl when they were behind by ten

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Speaker 3: at halftime and Mahomes was limping, and they came out

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Speaker 3: the second half, and what did they do? They ran

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Speaker 3: the ball with Pacheco, remember, and that's how they won

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They ran the football.

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Speaker 3: I thought that that would Andy Reid would get back

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Speaker 3: to that more. What's the easiest thing to do to

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Speaker 3: help your quarterback run the ball, and they just haven't

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Speaker 1: And my question is, well they let Joe Toney go

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Speaker 1: they couldn't afford Joe Toney. Well, Joe Toney has made

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Speaker 1: the Bears better up front and had his loss is significant.

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Speaker 1: their own line wasn't as good, and Toney left the

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Speaker 1: When you have one of the you know, one of

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Speaker 1: take the Chiefs at home at two and a half.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had that for about a year before Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they want it, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: And this is not a knock on the GM. You

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Speaker 1: That was not what they wanted to do. Watch their games.

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Speaker 1: There's no jews. You watched Seattle last night. You see jews.

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Speaker 1: I mean even Arizona. I see players. I just don't

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Speaker 1: see the leadership. So that's where we are. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jamch I haven't ask you your NFL picture at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. I generally take the home team

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Speaker 1: in college football, and they're two good teams. I think

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Speaker 1: the interesting one to me is Ohio State and Washington.

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Speaker 1: So Washington is unranked, they should be ranked, but they're unranked.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's number one at Husky Stadium's an advantage. What's

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Speaker 1: sneaky about that game is Julian saying the quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is young. He has never played on the

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Speaker 1: at home. He's a very good, great high school player.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to see an unranked team beat the

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Speaker 2: Do you yeah? Let me ask you, Colin. That Ohio

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Speaker 2: if Texas is that good? Well, again, I'm not bashing

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Speaker 2: Ohio State at all. I'm just starting to question that

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Speaker 2: Texas went in the same way LSU Clemson. Like that

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Speaker 2: what's the big deal?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean, Ohio State running back room was much

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Speaker 1: better last year. They were much more explosive out of

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Speaker 1: State was a much better team last year. I also

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Speaker 1: like Ibukauka and now Smith, the superstar wide receiver. Teams

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Speaker 1: You couldn't last year. You had him on one side,

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Speaker 1: the freshman you have a book. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: you just they're just and they had an unbelieve backfield.

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Speaker 1: So you couldn't cheat. I mean last year when you

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Speaker 1: a hard team to face even if you had Tennessee athletes,

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Speaker 1: face last year. You couldn't cheat. They're not as dynamic

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Speaker 1: feel as dynamic. And now they send a very young

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Speaker 1: the Washington team that's going to drop twenty eight points

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Speaker 1: that is a fascinating game. I just historically, I am

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Speaker 1: going to take a number one team over an unranked team.

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Speaker 1: But Washington's about as good as you can be to

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Speaker 1: be unranked in college football. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, is it going to rain, because I

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Speaker 2: know all it does in the Northwest is reign. Is

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Speaker 2: it going to reign at that tall side?

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Speaker 1: He's slow down?

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, we went to Seattle last summer.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. I love that city.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer big noon kickoff. He's at the USC Illinois

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow and he is joining us now live. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's just ask you. I anytime you go into

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Speaker 1: a coaching staff generally thinks, all right, let's get him

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Speaker 1: some early, easy completions. Let's not put him in weird environments.

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Speaker 1: But that kind of plays into Washington's hand because Washington's

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Speaker 1: gonna come into this thing with big swings. They've got

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Speaker 1: an NFL elite receiver, an unbelievable quarterback, a star running back.

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Speaker 1: So I would at Washington, they're gonna their take is

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Speaker 1: let's bring it in, let's slow it down, and that

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Speaker 1: are you worried for Ohio State in the spot?

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about the early part of the game. And

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Speaker 4: I would always tell teams going into that the mindset

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Speaker 4: some brutal shots early in the game just because the crowd,

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Speaker 4: But the best thing to slow down the stadium and

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Speaker 4: always tell our players, and I said this early in

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Speaker 4: the Texas game for arch Manning as well, get two

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Speaker 4: first downs. That's your job as a quarterback. That way,

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Speaker 4: you automatically flip the field and you can slow everything

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Speaker 4: just come out guns blazing in this game. In my opinion,

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Speaker 4: How do you do that sustained drives? And I don't

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Speaker 4: think defense Washington's defense is that great, so I think

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Speaker 4: ten play drive. Crowd goes away in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: I think people Buka is such a great player now

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Speaker 1: he's in the NFL. Last year, you had two elite receivers,

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Speaker 1: two elite backs. I think your quarterback had more experience.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't quite look like it quite has the

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Speaker 1: offensive juice. Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: I think there's still coming along Carnell tait I said,

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Speaker 4: And that's the number two receiver for Ohio State. That's

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Speaker 4: the biggest question mark because he's got all the skill

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Speaker 4: set you need to be a high draft pick and

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Speaker 4: to take some pressure off Jeremi Smith. But Jeremi Smith

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Speaker 4: had the perfect scenario. Last year. He had a mecha.

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Speaker 4: On the other side, he had two great running backs.

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Speaker 4: Those are all gone. So it still remains to be

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Speaker 4: seeing because Texas, like I heard you say earlier, how

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Speaker 4: good is Texas in the last three games to me

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Speaker 1: We're going to find out here in Seattle. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to USC and Illinois. You know, you and

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Speaker 1: I talked years ago about this. USC got small and

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Speaker 1: For the record, you know, people look at Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: So Oregon's going to Penn State. So Oregon has not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've said Penn State overtook LSU to me as

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Speaker 4: So again, third downs, red zone, field goal and punt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's I was thinking about you this week.

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Speaker 4: So I talked to Dabbo before the season and he

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Speaker 1: He is Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 4: But Tulsa goes in here and beats the Nelson, that

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Speaker 1: Finally, Urban Meyer and I'll see him tomorrow on Big

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Speaker 1: Newon kickoff, I said, I always thought the Big ten

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Speaker 1: little spice. I think Oregon, Washington, Jedfish USC. It was

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Speaker 4: No, I thought the PAC twelve would kind of come

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Speaker 4: I think the PAC twelve teams before you mentioned have

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Speaker 4: There's seven quarterbacks right now. I think you are the

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Speaker 4: The style of play now, the bottom of the Big

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Speaker 4: But I'm telling you what, this is very sec looking

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Speaker 4: I think it's a no more conference in college football.

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Speaker 4: Urban Meyer, Fox Sports college football coach.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. Can't wait to see you, Collin

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Speaker 1: all right. Urban Meyer a friend and just a terrific

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Speaker 1: Now It's surpassed LSU and USC down the road, Jamack

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Speaker 5: No, no, this is the headline news.

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Speaker 2: All right, big guy, Let's get started with Lamar Jackson Colin.

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Speaker 2: He's been one of the few bright spots for a

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Speaker 5: Any playing a game, he can change the dy nammic

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Speaker 5: Stopping Lamar is one thing. Trying to contain him as another.

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Speaker 5: And over the years, you look how prolific as a

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Speaker 1: Have so much respect for him, Yeah, you know, many

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Speaker 2: I maybe it's just me, but did you not think

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Speaker 2: you know, he's on his back because Aiden Hutchinson and

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Speaker 2: targeting Lamar Jackson over rushing yards. This feels to me right,

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Speaker 2: I ain't letting us lose, guys. I'm going down swinging

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Speaker 2: Find out. Let's move on now. This is spicy. I've

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Speaker 2: got to choose my words carefully. CJ. Stroud and the

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Speaker 2: the way, dating back to last season, they're just five

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Speaker 2: Stroud and if you listen closely, Colin, we have a

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Speaker 6: They are still trying to figure themselves out on offense.

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Speaker 6: They have a new play caller, they have a different

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Speaker 6: I'm not in the camp he's rooting his opportunity here

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Speaker 2: I still think CJ. Stroud can play as you think.

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Speaker 6: There's still a lot of work to be done, and

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Speaker 1: Oh that is spicy.

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Speaker 2: Okay again, I gotta choose my words carefully because I

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Speaker 2: come on, CJ. Shroud, he's great. So he shares an

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Speaker 1: That's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to start something. We don't know what's

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Speaker 2: the guylast year. Slowick their offensive line is what's going

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Speaker 2: No, so he you know he's from California.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh? Rams maybe seeking another cold of him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, would you think he'd love

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Speaker 2: to play with McVeigh?

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Speaker 1: Very interesting? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to start something.

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Speaker 1: But Bay McVeigh does like pocket quarterbacks, He like golf,

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Speaker 1: he likes Stafford, c J. Stroud, he doesn't need he

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Speaker 1: likes you to run his play.

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Speaker 2: Rams have a couple more extra draft picks, don't they?

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Speaker 1: Ooh, very now you're onto something. Two ones for c. J. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: It's got to cost more than that. But uh no.

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Speaker 1: Not when he's coming off back to back bad.

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Speaker 2: Seasons and Texas are not moving off in that easily.

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Speaker 2: But just a fun store I thought I put out

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Speaker 2: there J.

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Speaker 1: Mack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping back the

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Speaker 2: herd line news.

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Speaker 1: I mean, does CJ. Stroud get more than two first

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Speaker 1: round picks? I don't think not off back to back

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Speaker 1: bad years. I don't think so. He's off great years.

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Speaker 1: It's worth three and a five. But if you're off

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Speaker 1: bad to back, back to back bad seasons, you're not

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Speaker 1: winning games. You're not getting three first round picks, two

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Speaker 1: first rounders in the same draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember Snead was able to pull off the

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Speaker 2: golf swap for Stafford. Obviously there would be no swap here.

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Speaker 2: But uh, the fact that Michael Parsons got traded because

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Speaker 2: nobody thought we were good, they were gonna trade it,

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Speaker 2: and he shares an agent with Stroud mildly interesting. And

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Speaker 2: now Houston fans are probably very upset with us.

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Speaker 1: But don't be mad. Be mad at you. I didn't

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Speaker 1: say anything, all right, J Mack around the corners got

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Speaker 1: his picks. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's rock and roll. We're now in week four.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrows headlines today Viking Steelers. I know where you're leaning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're doing six NFL six. I like love

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Speaker 2: the card and a college football. We'll start in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a layout, folks. The headline for

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Speaker 2: Vikings Steelers will be can we see it on the screen? Guys,

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Speaker 2: influencers in the wild, Vikes go viral in Dublin. I

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Speaker 2: like Carson Wentzey gets Jordan Addison, Colin big At get

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Speaker 2: back there at wide receiver. We know the left tackle

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Speaker 2: derrisols back. It seems like the offensive line should do well.

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Speaker 2: If you look at these Pittsburgh defense at metrics Colin

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Speaker 2: for an expensive defense, they have been rotten. They cannot

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Speaker 2: stop to anybody, remember justin fields move the ball up

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Speaker 2: and down the field against these guys. Now, I know

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh will have something of a home field advantage in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: Apparently it's gonna be like seventy five twenty five. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers fans and the Steelers are a better brand, I

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Speaker 2: guess than the Vikings. But I'm confident in Minnesota's defense,

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Speaker 2: Brian Flores, they are eighth in blitz rate, they are

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Speaker 2: second in pressure rate, and Aaron Rodgers is the worst

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL so far this season against pressure,

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Speaker 2: six for twenty two passing. Give me the Vikings to

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Speaker 2: win by seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Panthers Patriots. What say you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know we have a lot of agreement. This week.

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Speaker 2: The headline for Panthers Patriots will be mother, may I

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Speaker 2: Pats permitted to own? Panthers?

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Speaker 1: Come.

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Speaker 2: It's opened at minus two. It's up to minus five

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Speaker 2: and a half. Listen right now. Everybody loves the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and why would you not. I mean, I know they

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Speaker 2: have six turnovers, tied for second in the league, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of that was just unlucky fumbles. Bad Drake

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Speaker 2: made decisions. What's the remedy your face of Panthers defense

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Speaker 2: that stinks worst pressure rate in the league. They have

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Speaker 2: one sack through three games. Their defense just isn't good.

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Speaker 2: If you look at their wide receiver room, they just

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Speaker 2: rule leget out Ted McMillan, your guy from Arizona. He's

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Speaker 2: struggling with an injury. He's questionable. I don't think Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young has a lot of options. Give me the Patriots

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Speaker 2: at home handily.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Philadelphia came from behind to beat the

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Speaker 1: Rams at Tampa. The kids are coming from behind and winning,

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Speaker 1: and Tampa, I don't think you can sustain it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: little I have a feeling I know where you're leaning

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Speaker 1: on this. So you know last week, remember that Lions

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Speaker 1: Ravens game. I'll say, hey, Ravens killed them. Last time,

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Speaker 1: they murdered them. They're gonna do it again.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. Well, everybody liking Tampa beware the headline for

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Speaker 2: Eagles Bucks will be porched. Pirates Bucks get boxed up

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Speaker 2: at home. Love a good revenge spot for my guy.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts in company hurts his one in four against

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Speaker 2: Tampa with Todd Bowles on the sideline. He has struggled

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Speaker 2: a bit, but I think this is the week that

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Speaker 2: he gets right. Remember last year in this spot did

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Speaker 2: not have aj Brown or DeVonta Smith, Like, come on,

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Speaker 2: let's give the guy a break. Saquon Barkley is yet

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Speaker 2: to get untracked. But this Tampa defense is not great.

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Speaker 2: They've been winning thanks to mistakes by the opponents and

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield heroics. I think that ends. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Eagles thirty to seventeen. In a role.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headline today, I avoid Falcon bets at all costs.

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Speaker 1: You don't commanders now with a backup quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: atl Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it was you that said last season, friends

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Speaker 2: don't let friends bet on the Falcons. Something like that.

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Speaker 2: You had something funny the headline for Falcons commanders will

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Speaker 2: be let Bijons be bijons. Falcons get go off the losses.

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Speaker 2: I like Atlanta Colin. I know it's crazy, but no

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, no scary Terry mcclaurin. I don't see an

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Speaker 2: offense where Marcus Mariota does it again and explodes on

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Speaker 2: the Falcons. And let's be real, this is an Atlanta

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Speaker 2: team that just played as bad as possible. Last week.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix threw an inexplicable pick six on like the

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Speaker 2: second play of the second half. Kicker miss two field goals.

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Speaker 2: Remember in the Dome. Look good against Tampa in the Dome,

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Speaker 2: look good at Minnesota and one true. They're back in

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Speaker 2: a dome that deep, Those edge rushers are fast. I

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Speaker 2: like Atlanta to get right, but be careful.

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Speaker 1: This next one feels lobsided. It was too odd Vius,

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Speaker 1: so I stayed away. Tomorrow's headlines today. Jackson Dark gets

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Speaker 1: his first start. Unfortunately it gets Hardball the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jase Minter, the great defensive mind to the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna get head coaching? Looks? We know, all right,

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Speaker 2: the headline for Chargers Giants will be y'all better Scatamoo

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Speaker 2: daddle Chargers run in all directions. Listen, you could work

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Speaker 2: Skataboo into a headline. You got. He's the man for

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Speaker 2: the Giants. I just there is some concern I'm with you, like,

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Speaker 2: be careful Chargers on the road. Everybody now has them

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl bubble and you go down with

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Speaker 2: no the guard Mackay Beckton, he's out. We know the

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Speaker 2: Giants front is very strong. Yeah, that's oh scoring and

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Speaker 2: ugly and and you don't know what Jackson Dark. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of an unknown, right Is he going to come

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00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: in and run around for fifty yards? Is he going

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00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: to make plays to Malik Dabors that Russell Wilson could

587
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Speaker 2: not do? So I do have some concerns. I'm just

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00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: betting on coaching here. I think Harball is considerably better

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00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: than Dable, and I think Jesse Mint is an excellent

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Speaker 2: defensive guy. Who's gonna cook up some schemes to confound

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Speaker 2: the rookie. I'll go with the.

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Speaker 1: Chargers, another favorite, lobsided game, potentially tomorrow's headlines today my

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Speaker 1: greenbare touchdown favorite and big d What do you got.

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Speaker 2: First bet of the week? I've been waiting for this

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Speaker 2: circled on the calendar, not just mine, but Micah's. The

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Speaker 2: headline for Packers Cowboys will be ab cd fm L

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Speaker 2: Cowboys can't break spell. Now our young audience knows FML.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you do. I honestly thought the higher

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Speaker 2: ups would nix this, but I think Dallas is screwed

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Speaker 2: here without Cedee Lamb. Collin, by the way, did you

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Speaker 2: see how many points they scored against the Bears in

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Speaker 2: the second half without Ceedee Lamb?

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Speaker 1: Not good?

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Speaker 2: Zero. I mean, I know they moved the football, but

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Speaker 2: that was largely garbage time because of the situation of

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Speaker 2: the game. And you look at that interior offensive line

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Speaker 2: of Dallas. Lot of backups, a lot of guys off

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Speaker 2: the street. Colin MICHAEH. Parsons, we know the defense of

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Speaker 2: the Packers. They don't just run off the edge. They

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Speaker 2: do stunts. So Mike is gonna be kind of up

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Speaker 2: the middle, Dak not running as much as he used to.

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Speaker 2: This is a scary one. I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be like forty eight twenty, but I do think the

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Speaker 2: Packers winning this handily, one of those like thirty five

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Speaker 2: to ten. Oh my gosh, Jerry, you guys are in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Finally, great College Football Slate Best of the Year final tally.

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Speaker 1: Here Tomorrow's headlines today. Bama going to job Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to go Washington, Ohio State. There's

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously some really great games at Oregon, Penn State.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going Alabama Georgia because the headline's too beautiful.

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Speaker 2: The headline for tied up Bulldogs and the SEC would

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Speaker 2: be the Dubour went down to Georgia and played them

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Speaker 2: lack of fiddle. I'm going with my main man, Ty Simpson,

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Speaker 2: who I believe emerges from this game as a legit

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Speaker 2: Heisman contender. WHOA I know they lost to FSU. It's

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Speaker 2: not like Simpson was terrible by the way. Nine touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: zero picks, seventy one percent completions. Remember what Ryan Williams

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Speaker 2: did to these guys last year. And Jalen Milroe Milroll

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Speaker 2: came out of this game like, oh my gosh, is

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Speaker 2: he had top twenty pick. I think Simpson looks good.

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Speaker 2: I think they own Kirby smart and Deboor gets the

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Speaker 2: job done. This is going to be a phenomenal game

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Speaker 2: the College Slate Saturday. Just just keep your phone charged

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00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: because I know, I know you're gonna want to fire

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: off text to me. I like Alabama to win outright

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00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: You know my takeaway on all this is I stayed

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Speaker 1: away to two most obvious blowouts, which is the Chargers

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Speaker 1: against the Giants and the Packers against the Cowboys, because

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Speaker 1: when like eighty eight percent of the bets are on

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Speaker 1: the favorites, so I went with Denver instead. Everybody's doubting

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00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: bo Nicks, and I just I think their roster in

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Speaker 1: Denver's exceptional altitude at home. I think without Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a kind of lack of personality, a

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Speaker 1: lack of belief in Cincinnati. But it does feel like

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Speaker 1: there is a separation of the really good teams and

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Speaker 1: the really bad ones. And then last week happens in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland beats Green Bay, and you're like, oh wait, maybe

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Speaker 1: there isn't so I don't know it's funny. I do not.

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Speaker 1: I had no game screams upset to me. Tampa, of course,

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Speaker 1: at home, is capable of beating anybody in the league.

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Speaker 1: But I think the Jets is a two and a

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Speaker 1: half point underdog. Certainly if justin Field's players could win,

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Speaker 1: I don't see a huge upset this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I see this Spencer Rattler and company going to Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Bill's just kind of sleep be whatever, and maybe Nelan

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Speaker 2: Egg losing. I think it's fifteen and a half as

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Speaker 2: the spread there. I wouldn't bet that with your money.

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Speaker 2: If you said, Jay, here's a thousand, I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: I just double digit spreads are dangerous, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just also, I mean, Seattle dominates most of

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Speaker 1: the early game last night and finds themselves tied late.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's It's not college football, like you.

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Speaker 1: There's dudes everywhere. Arizone's got six or seven great players.

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Speaker 2: I think it was twenty to six with six minutes left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and suddenly you win in a walk off. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the National Football League. First things first is around

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Speaker 1: the corner. Urban Meyer was great appreciated that bluff date

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Speaker 1: wants that