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Speaker 1: A couple of crazy things from earlier today before we

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Speaker 1: dive into some breaking news. I hosted Fair Territory today

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Speaker 1: with Ken Rosenthal. It was a blast. I got to

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Speaker 1: do my first ever dude in Dork of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Who did you choose?

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Speaker 1: Dude was Kirby Eights, Okay, dork was Jim Murray. Both

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Speaker 1: very very deserving of their awards. But two things that

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Speaker 1: stood out from that. One is it's just weird. We

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Speaker 1: were doing five intriguing teams to follow this offseason and

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Speaker 1: we're talking Padres and then I looked down on my

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Speaker 1: phone because grilan Ken was going to be next, so

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Speaker 1: I was starting to look to see what grilan Ken

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Speaker 1: questions there were and then it was like breaking Padres,

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Speaker 1: higher cruigs, Noam, and I was like, that's weird. And

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Speaker 1: number two, this is for a j Ken at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show called me Emperor and wanted you

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Speaker 1: to know that. He was like, I'm on with the

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Speaker 1: Emperor of Foul Territory. Sorry, Emperor, that was the word

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Speaker 1: to use. I was like, hey, you try to be humble,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to use that, but I will

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Speaker 1: use that just in my later show. And he said,

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Speaker 1: please do.

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Speaker 2: Ken must be really looking for a leader. He's really

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Speaker 2: searching far and wide for a leader for him. But wow, yeah, wow, Ken, Ken,

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Speaker 2: you need to quit text me.

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Speaker 1: I told him to come up with a better name

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Speaker 1: for you and something for you. Maybe by the next

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Speaker 1: time we have him, which I.

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Speaker 2: Believe is tomorrow tomorrow, he can come up with something

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Speaker 2: for me. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It'll be easy for him to come up with something

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because you won't have a response. You'll have to

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Speaker 1: wait till Monday. So anyway, off season means a little

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Speaker 1: more back.

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Speaker 2: Way till he gets to Orlando for the Winter Meetings.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pick him up and put him in

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Speaker 2: my pocket and carry him around for a few days.

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Speaker 2: We need will be my number two.

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Speaker 1: At some point we need to talk about Winter meetings

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Speaker 1: like a guide to Orlando for everybody coming to the

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Speaker 1: Winter Meetings. That might be your favorite segment ever a month.

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Speaker 2: I know. But the problem is where they're stay. There's

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Speaker 2: not much around there.

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Speaker 1: We have to use your car, drive around, taking cheating.

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Speaker 2: You need ubers because it's not really around much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just for some context, since I've got the New

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Speaker 1: York City and Orlando balance, going two blocks on any

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Speaker 1: ride share service in New York is equivalent to like

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Speaker 1: how easy it is to grab a car and spend

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Speaker 1: two blocks traffic, you get out, you're like, actually, I

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Speaker 2: But the problem is where I think, said JW. Marriott,

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Speaker 2: And is that where it is? I think it's at

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Speaker 2: check the Hotel, which is one of the great hilarious

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Speaker 2: things of all time about Orlando and Disney World. So

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Speaker 2: Disney World has this massive property right hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: and they're not part of Disney but they're in the

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Speaker 2: by Disney. It was like the biggest fu to Walt

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Speaker 1: There's a rooftop restaurant where I've been a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's right, you can watch this

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Speaker 2: It would be prime hotel property for reducing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they would spend anything to get that exactly. Wow,

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Speaker 1: about Craig Stamon is the next manager of the San

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Speaker 1: Diego Padres. Forty one years old, spent the last six

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Speaker 1: He's been working for the team since he retired, so

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the Pooholes and anyone else that

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Speaker 2: Still, this is the new way. This is they say

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Speaker 2: Craig Stammond has always come across as a smart guy

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Speaker 3: Everybody I know that played with him says incredible, dude.

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Speaker 3: My biggest hang up anytime a pitcher gets a managerial job,

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Pitchers don't always have the experience the insight. He's been

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Speaker 3: sounds like he's an incredible people person. But to make

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Speaker 3: what happened with Craig Stamon. Craig Stamon was in on

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Speaker 2: Like, pretty good, it's pretty good. And he just took

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Speaker 2: just I just I don't know. I mean, again, this

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Speaker 2: but I mean, like running a team, not a coach.

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Speaker 2: Who are they hired to help them? That's the biggest

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. What's their network like

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Speaker 2: things to me that are fascinating about these hires is

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Speaker 2: can it work? Absolutely? But they've also never had to

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Speaker 2: There's a million things that happen so fast, and I

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that's fascinating is how do you

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Speaker 3: Maybe Craig has somebody like that. Maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know Ryan Flaherty was on

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Speaker 3: been interviewing for some jobs. Ruby Diebola, I think it

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Speaker 3: I won't because I'm not gonna throw I'd love to

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Speaker 2: The bench coach. And then there was like a big

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Speaker 2: league coach on this team that the manager would look

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Speaker 2: for the other guy's the other guy's opinion on subjects.

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Speaker 2: And the bench coach incredible, very talented, knew the game,

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, he has to sit out now, I know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying he sits out, and he says, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't. Kratz question for you on Poolholes.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that he should spend this season on

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Speaker 3: I think he went through all the I think he

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Speaker 2: It's like it's long. It's not like, oh I can't

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Speaker 3: Then you know this is going on during the game.

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Speaker 3: Now he's gone through that. To me, whatever reason he

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Speaker 2: And I never being a manager, but only talking to

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Speaker 1: Some of these hires or candidates like Albert could have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not often. I mean, Albert has some people very

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Speaker 3: talk about all the stuff Eachiro would do. I know,

433
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Speaker 3: each row is a freak. Ky's Hall of Famer but

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Speaker 3: they really go to a gym in Japan looks completely

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Speaker 3: different than the gym's over here.

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Speaker 1: M hm. A couple of Cubs questions. One was say,

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Speaker 1: why did they get Tucker in the first place, Well,

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Speaker 1: rentals are real. Other teams rentals. The Yankees rented and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the difference in Soto is that the Yankees

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Speaker 2: actually tried to resign. They wanted to re sign Sodo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Cubs have pretty much come out and said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we don't really care. He was here for one year

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna move on because we can't afford them.

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Speaker 2: The Yankees legitimately wanted Soto back. They they threw everything

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Speaker 2: out him, and the Mets just beat them. So ore

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Speaker 2: I mean corb Yeah, but to me, the Corbyn Burns

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Speaker 2: trade they made. They made an offer, They made him

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Speaker 2: an offer, they made him a huge offer. He didn't

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Speaker 2: accept it.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: So the Cubs different. The Cubs will say we tried.

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Speaker 1: And also there was another question about Dansby Someone's.

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Speaker 2: Asking Andy's got four more years? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Or about They were like, can you go into detail

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Speaker 1: how they only have under contract after twenty six? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, is there an op out? Now there's

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Speaker 1: not He's there for a long time.

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Speaker 2: See finally a good finally, good front end graphic. Finally,

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Speaker 2: finally you like that. Yeah, but the only problem is

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Speaker 2: Michael didn't have his socks on, and that.

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Speaker 1: And shake it up. Well, you need to tell everybody

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Speaker 1: what you just saw, because there are many people that

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Speaker 1: listen to via podcast.

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Speaker 2: There's me being a bartender and serving drinks to Michael.

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Speaker 2: Our social underage are underage. He's not underage, and he's

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Speaker 2: not an intern either, and he's famous. Now now whatever

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Speaker 2: he is, let's get he sleeps in his socks, He'll

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Speaker 2: always be my intern until he.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sleep in his socks. Jay Stingler is going to

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Speaker 1: join Tony Vaytello's staff in San Francisco. They were college

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Speaker 1: teammates at Missouri and they have remained close friends. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a good experience.

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Speaker 2: Jas that experience.

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Speaker 1: He's coached for a while, he's managed. That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good start. Yeah, stuff, Especially they're close friends.

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Speaker 2: He's got someone there that supports them.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to I don't want to bury

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Speaker 3: the lead, but ninety percent sure he's coming on the

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Speaker 3: show tomorrow. Tingler to talk about it, but he's in

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Speaker 3: the middle of Zoom meetings, so I'm just being completely honest.

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Speaker 3: If he gets a Zoom meeting, he won't be Omega.

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Speaker 3: But tomorrow Ftfense, so you'll get more Tingla.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.

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Speaker 3: The person that played with that had the least the

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Speaker 3: least power ever, Me and Jays played in Hi A

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Speaker 3: together minus power. You know when you see like the

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Speaker 3: little kids like the little kids hit and the ball

488
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Speaker 3: hits their bat and the bat likes bounces back.

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Speaker 2: That was Tangler. But in pro Bawl was he a

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Speaker 2: contact titter super contact.

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Speaker 3: They would draw the left fielder in because he would

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Speaker 3: just he made the All Star team in High A

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Speaker 3: because he was just so balls over the shortstops head.

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Speaker 3: And then they started bringing the left fielder in super

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Speaker 3: contacted her.

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Speaker 1: What if we combined you and Jase Tingler as a player.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of Sexiest Men of the Year

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Speaker 3: award that you would win it would be ridiculous, but.

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Speaker 2: I do like it.

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Speaker 3: Now you have somebody that has been a manager in

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Speaker 3: the big leagues knows Tony as well as you can

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Speaker 3: know Tony, and Jase has done everything. Jase has gone

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Speaker 3: from he ran the Dominican Academy. He then brought like Rugie.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think all those guys Jackson profar, those

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Speaker 3: guys that came up with the Rangers, brought them up

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Speaker 3: back up to the States, and then he managed them

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Speaker 3: at each level. Then he was like a quality control coach.

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Speaker 3: Then he was a big league manager. Then he's been

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Speaker 3: a bench coach for a while, so he's seen He's

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Speaker 3: seen a lot. So I think it's a great hire.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of buyers, Bruce Bochi back to the Giants as

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Speaker 1: a special assistant.

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Speaker 2: The Giants are just bringing. Why don't they hired Bruce

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Speaker 2: Bochi is the bench coach. I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to do that. I'm always a ratager. I rather

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Speaker 2: be in the office with Bustner.

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Speaker 1: That would be a demotion. Susan Slesser, who is the

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Speaker 1: special contributor to splash Hit Territory brand new show and

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Speaker 1: FP Santangelo hosting. Susan tweeted, I joined FP again on

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Speaker 1: splash Hit. We talked about my chat with Greg Johnson

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Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Chronicle, including Bruce Bochi's return and

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Speaker 1: other topics. But Greg Johnson is the controller, right, Is

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Speaker 1: he the main guy controlling the team these days or whatever?

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Speaker 2: No, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's a decision maker.

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Speaker 2: So this is great though. This is another person that

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Speaker 2: Tony Vitello and Chase Tangler and the rest of his

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Speaker 2: crew Buster Posey included, can bounce ideas off of. I

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Speaker 2: love this. Listen. Just because you're in a position of

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Speaker 2: power doesn't mean that you can't have people that one

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Speaker 2: aid you can have conversations with and they might disagree

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Speaker 2: with you, but at least you get ideas and you

533
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Speaker 2: can bounce ideas off people, and as long as you're

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Speaker 2: okay with not always agreeing with you, like Boach, probably

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Speaker 2: won't agree with everything Buster Posey says, but at least

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Speaker 2: you have a sounding board in Boach and Tingler and

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Speaker 2: Vitello can bouncings off of each other and see where

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Speaker 2: it goes. Because this is how you learn and get better.

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Speaker 2: You got to be able to talk and not get

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Speaker 2: mad and then move on. And I think the Giants

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Speaker 2: are trying to assemble a staff from front office down

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Speaker 2: that can have open dialogue, and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I sat in I sat in the catchers and pitchers

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Speaker 3: meetings pre series. When I played for the Giants, Boach

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Speaker 3: was in there, Buster was in there, like the guys

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Speaker 3: like those are two guys, Buster and Bochi that just

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Speaker 3: watch a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 2: They remember a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 3: So are they going to be the guy who's just

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Speaker 3: taking over meetings if they're sitting in there watching. No,

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Speaker 3: But they add different things that.

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Speaker 2: That will help.

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Speaker 3: And I think Tony seems like somebody that's open to

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Speaker 3: other people's opinions and isn't afraid to listen to somebody

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Speaker 3: that has more experience in an area.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Boats used the legend you want him around as

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Speaker 1: much as possible, and he's not going to get in

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Speaker 1: the way either. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's

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Speaker 1: some guys that are there and it's like you gotta

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Speaker 1: be careful with what they're doing, and saying Boach is

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Speaker 1: the opposite of that. It's just like good times, good hangs,

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Speaker 1: great advice, the whole deal. It's like they're bringing the

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Speaker 1: band back together, right, let's bring the winners back. That

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Speaker 1: was beautifully done.

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Speaker 2: By the way, with the.

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Speaker 1: Subscriber little thang, you got the glare right out beautiful. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just want to remind everyone splash It Territory and Bucco

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Speaker 1: Territory and Riverfront Territory. Three new shows there. They are

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Speaker 1: gonna keep reminding you this week to tell your friends subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Say splash three time, splash splash it, splash it. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Didn't go the direction there, are right, you guys should

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Speaker 1: need How much is done? Yeah, the whole, the whole

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Speaker 1: team production, social. We are all in this slack channel

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Speaker 1: and just go back and forth like, oh, let's try

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Speaker 1: the skull on the O and let's switch the bow.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: We have a free agent coach, John Hammond reporting that

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Speaker 1: Don Mattingly is stepping away from the Blue Jays on

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Speaker 1: great terms and leaving them an excellent position. But this

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Speaker 1: is not a retirement announcement. He is open to new opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I want him to get it.

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Speaker 2: This is to me why because everyone got along so

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Speaker 2: well there and matting I mean, does he want to

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Speaker 2: be a he's not going to be a manager.

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Speaker 1: I have an idea. I think he maybe moved back

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Speaker 1: to the US, or to move back to the US.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got a young kid. I think still yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, you don't.

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Speaker 2: Think that's what I just I think this one's interesting

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Speaker 2: to me because everyone's you know, all you hear from

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Speaker 2: every guy is like, man, we got along so great,

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Speaker 2: and wow, we loved each other and we wanted to

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Speaker 2: be with each other and this and that, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, maddeningly, he's like, I'm stepping away out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he hasn't you know that he would be a

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Speaker 2: great hire as a bench coach for Greg's dammon in

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Speaker 2: San Diego. I don't know. I mean true, you know,

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Speaker 2: just someone that's been around, it's managed, he's done it all.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm just it's just interesting.

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Speaker 1: You want the title too.

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Speaker 2: He got so close.

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Speaker 1: Just now, great, that's all you got?

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Speaker 2: Did you come across all?

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Speaker 3: I got no Dinny baseball, and I never did. But

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Speaker 3: Schneid's was like a kid in a candy store. He

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Speaker 3: was like he was like a kid when he like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you have five hundred dollars to spend it toys r

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Speaker 3: us and he was like.

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Speaker 2: WHOA I get Don Maddenley as my bench coach. He's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what to do with my hands

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Speaker 3: like he's a legend, and I think he's somebody that

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Speaker 3: did great managing. He did well, honestly, got a lot

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Speaker 3: of players that played for him enjoy playing for him.

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Speaker 3: But what now, I mean, do you run it back

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Speaker 3: with the same team. Maybe he didn't like being up

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Speaker 3: in Canada away from family. Who knows. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: dudes had thirty nine years in baseball. Forty years in baseball.

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Speaker 3: That is so many years.

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Speaker 1: He'll find a job, He'll get something he's pretty well liked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Schnider was funny because you got to see more personality

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Speaker 1: from him this year as they were very successful, and

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Speaker 1: he's loving being with Donnie Baseball. He loves that he

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Speaker 1: gets to pull Scherzer right. I was waiting for that moment.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy that kind of openness from a manager. I'm

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Speaker 1: dialed in, but I'm also having a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: and I know how appreciative I should be in this position.

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Speaker 1: I liked that relatable guys. I did a couple of

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Speaker 1: topics here in hot corner. This first bit of news

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Speaker 1: was basically known. I believe that in his press conference

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, Dave Dobrowski mentioned this

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Speaker 1: and it happened. Jose Alvarado was suspended for PDS, missed

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Speaker 1: half the year, had a nine million dollar club option.

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Speaker 1: They decided to bring him back, and Matt Gell wrote

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Speaker 1: in The Athletic Kyo he would have been one of

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Speaker 1: the best lefty relievers on the market. They've talked about

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Speaker 1: this a lot on the Philly show, Pratts, you're our

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Speaker 1: Philly guy. Are you good with this? They're looking at

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Speaker 1: it as we know him and we know what a

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Speaker 1: picture like him would get in the free agent market.

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Speaker 1: The other side of it is he got popped for peds.

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Speaker 1: Is he the same guy when he goes through multiple

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Speaker 1: cycles without it? Your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: I mean, rarely is the guy that got popped only

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Speaker 3: did it once? But yeah, you know what, who knows?

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Speaker 3: Who knows if he's going to be the same guy.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty nasty when he wasn't like this spring training.

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Speaker 3: I think he had like something ridiculous, like twenty strikeouts

649
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: in spring training in like eight innings that he threw.

650
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: And then he started the season out he was slinging

651
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: it like. He definitely had an uptick, not necessarily in

652
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: his velocity, but the results of this stuff. So he

653
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 3: was good before that, he was good last year. I

654
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: guess I don't have a problem with it if if

655
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: his teammates don't have a problem with it, and everything

656
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: we heard from Topper to different guys we had on

657
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: they loved Tozy and so that's the only time when

658
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: it would be you know, maybe we don't bring him back,

659
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: but it's hard to turn down one of the top

660
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: left handed relievers for only nine million dollars for one year.

661
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that would be a that'd be a bold

662
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: statement by the Phillies to not pick this option of.

663
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: David Nebrowski said on our show he was gonna pick

664
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: it up. I mean he said it right.

665
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: I didn't remember if we talked about it he.

666
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Brought it up. He's like, oh, yeah, it was definitely

667
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: coming back. I mean, so there was no suspense in

668
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: this one. I mean, listen, steroid p D guys have

669
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: they're just forgiven and forgotten. Now honestly, it's not are they.

670
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys tell my teams. Do teammates care? No?

671
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: Not really, they don't, right because they That's what I'm saying.

672
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: If he comes back and he pitches, well, then you know,

673
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: if you're Bryce Harper or Turner.

674
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Fernando Tatis. You think the Padre's care

675
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: that he got in trouble for PDS. He say, Baseball

676
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: doesn't even care. They put him, really cares well.

677
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: The one risk is I mean, if you get popped again,

678
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: then you're out for the full season.

679
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: And okay, how how did that affects Alex Rodrigos.

680
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's another world.

681
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how did that affect him? Does anybody

682
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: care anymore that he did that? Yes? Who? Okay? But

683
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, most fans out there do they care?

684
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters?

685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

686
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: Do most fans care? I actually think they do.

687
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Do they for him? Yes?

688
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: Because he did it a billion times? I think for

689
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: others it's harder to know exactly how deep it got.

690
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: His story.

691
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: We know how deep it got. He I mean, he's

692
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: told us a million times he did it since he

693
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: first started. Because he had Alex.

694
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying for other guys, they usually don't.

695
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Bartolo Colone. People love Bartola Colone. Everyone just conveniently forgets

696
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: he was a steroid guy. Melson Cruise, Nelson I was

697
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: there when Nelson Cruz got suspended. It was one of

698
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: the most happy. They're nice guys, they're happy it doesn't work.

699
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to pick them people. We're

700
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: getting farther and farther from it. Mattering actually mattering for

701
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: people testing positive for steroids. Because Jerkson profar he still

702
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: gets all of the rest of his contract. Was that

703
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: worth it?

704
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: Yes, re people reboot their image, they get to go

705
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 3: back out and they play again. So unfortunately we're getting

706
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: farther from it, Matt from it mattering to.

707
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: Your career. Eh, you know, he was a steroid guy,

708
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: but ah, who cares. We're putting them on on our

709
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: team's Hall of Fame. Ah, he's a steroid guy, but

710
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: who cares. He's funny, he's a nice guy. He's got

711
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: a great smile. Like it really doesn't have the effect

712
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: that I think some players feel like it does. And

713
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: whether that's jealousy from those players or that's just players

714
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: being like, I know what I put into it, and

715
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: I didn't cheat, and this guy still gets like notoriety,

716
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the answer is, like ban

717
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: them from everything baseball? No, nobody's nobody's gonna do that.

718
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Do you guys think there should be stricter penalties, and

719
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: do you think players.

720
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: I just don't think it matters anymore. I mean I

721
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: think I think if I'm a person and I just

722
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: want to make a bunch of money, and I can

723
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: do this, and I can get a big contract and

724
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: I miss half a year. So let's say I sign

725
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: a five I miss going random or five year fifty

726
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: million dollar contract and I have to give up five million,

727
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: so instead I get five million. Forty five million. Seems

728
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: like a pretty good deal to me because they can't

729
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: take that money away. So I mean, listen, it's it

730
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: is what it is. Where we're out of the game.

731
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: They're trying to clean it up. There's no way to

732
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: there's no perfect answer. Yeah right, But what I'm saying

733
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: is is that when you're talking about this, people forget.

734
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: They move on. There's the new cycle with social media

735
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: is so short now. But oh he was suspended, Oh care,

736
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh he's back. Yes he can help us get to

737
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Cool. Yeah, I said, that's where we're at.

738
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: I think opposing fans care. But then the fans.

739
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Get after a year anyways, because then it's onto the

740
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: next thing. People. I'll tell I told the story many times.

741
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: When I was in Anaheim, years after the two thousand

742
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: and five when all this stuff happened with me in

743
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, fans are booing me and a

744
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: good buddy I was sitting in the stands and he

745
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: looks at him and goes, hey, why are you guys

746
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: booing it? And they go, I don't know. I guess

747
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: he used steroids or something. They have no idea, They

748
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: have no idea. He's so I'm gonna boo. The astros

749
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: trash can thing has lasted longer than guys doing steroids hatred.

750
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: It's not even close, not even close.

751
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one? Which one cheated the game more?

752
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Which one's a bigger advantage?

753
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: I would I would contend to almost the steroids.

754
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: Gosh, if you're on the right roids, look at some

755
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: of the careers, I mean, any victories. It's an important thing.

756
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: I hate getting into this because it just gets it

757
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: gets it gets me.

758
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: We don't talk about it very often, so I know

759
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: it was worth a few minutes to find out. Really,

760
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: if you guys think the penalties are strict enough and

761
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: you're saying no one cares, okay, well it's it is

762
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: still half a season. Like you do miss that player,

763
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: and also you do miss that play in the postseason.

764
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: I do like that part. Right, you don't get to

765
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: have that player come back if.

766
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Your jersey profile and your team doesn't make the postseason?

767
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: Who cares?

768
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I agree? And also if you sign a contract that's

769
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: long term, it's not like it messes up the rest.

770
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: There's some fans will be like, oh, that voids the

771
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: contract and that that's tricky because.

772
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: Then that's the owners. The owners are like, fine, I'll

773
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: take I'll take a no, no long term contract. So

774
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 3: there's there's got to be some culpability there where. It's

775
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: also like you're protecting you're protecting players too, so I

776
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: get it, Like you avoid contracts, Oh man, that would

777
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: be great. Owners would be like, we're kind the whole thing.

778
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: It brings in a whole it brings in a whole

779
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: different thing because you can listen if there's a bad contract.

780
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: And I've heard people talk about this before, like you

781
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: can who's to say, oops, oops, I put something in

782
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: your food by you know, And.

783
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: When it comes to that much money, that's what I'm.

784
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: Saying, like you and I know it's a crazy conspiracy theory,

785
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: but not I've heard new many people say, like that

786
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: could be a problem.

787
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: It's it is a significant reason.

788
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Here's a smoothie from the team, Oh it had something

789
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: in it, and oh you're getting drug tested after the game.

790
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: You had no idea. I didn't take anything.

791
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: You sign up a guy for two hundred and fifty

792
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: million dollars and you suddenly hate him. That's a way

793
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: to get rid of him.

794
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: That's why that'll never happen.

795
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: So that's a slippery slope. But that's why it's a

796
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: good topic. It's it's complicated. It's not easy.

797
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's a really complicated I just asked

798
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: the question, like you know that people people forget they do,

799
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: fans forget, forget quick you're right on the news.

800
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: My solution is, you can't get any awards after that.

801
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: You test positive for steroids, you can't. You can't make

802
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: an All Star team, can't win MVPs, you can't. You

803
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: can't win those awards all your teams.

804
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't care about that. I mean, if

805
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: you're if you're a long term deal, who cares. I mean,

806
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: if you're to get pup, you're not going to the

807
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So then who cares if you win

808
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: MVPs and all that stuff. I mean, and that's if

809
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm in a two hundred million dollar contract and I lose.

810
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, no, I can't go to an alscar game.

811
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: Everyone outs out of those anyways. Oh I can't be

812
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: the MVP. I'm probably not gonna win one of those anyways.

813
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: So, but this way, you're not taking it from other people.

814
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: This way you're not taking Jerckson profar. Jerkson Profar took

815
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: somebody's job, and I forget what his name was in

816
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: both of them were on the team at the beginning

817
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: of the year in San Diego. Obviously, Jerkson had the

818
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: year that he had. His ex velocity went up five

819
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: miles per hour at age thirty.

820
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 2: And that guy ended up going down.

821
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: He's kind of been bouncing up and down from the

822
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: big leagues the last two seasons like that. That's where

823
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: that's where I think it comes in. Is it the notoriety? No,

824
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: It's like I just don't want I don't want someone

825
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: else taking somebody else's award that did it clean.

826
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: You're talking about completely different things here, got a job.

827
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: You're talking about a job that's not even you're talking

828
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: about maybe two different award or job like no, no, no.

829
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that it affects other people. When people

830
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: do steroids, it affects other people, no doubt.

831
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well to be continued. I'm sure that

832
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: this will come up at some point again, but good

833
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: discussion and really just wanted to know, like, how else

834
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: can you make this a more prominent penalty if you

835
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: feel like it deserves to be that way? Because players

836
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: did want more of a penalty, and they did up

837
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: the penalty, right, it was lower at some point and

838
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: they pushed it up. Anyway, let's swing back, we'll do all.

839
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: That's what he said. Coming up next a clip from

840
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: Crush City Territory. But MGM, social media account, what do

841
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: you have for us today? Give one MLB off season

842
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: bold prediction? Do you want me to read some examples

843
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: that were replies to that tweet, Jordan said, Pete Alonzo

844
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: signs with the Atlanta Braves. Why they have a first baseman?

845
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Ya? That is bold?

846
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: That is bold. I mean he can dh Marcel Zoon

847
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: is a free agent. They can.

848
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: He won't want to do that though I know he won't.

849
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: But that that rules him out of a lot of places,

850
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: like if Kyle Schwarber leaves for some reason and they

851
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: want a different DH, Pete could be that guy. But

852
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: he has to be okay.

853
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: With that slide right in there.

854
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: I think he would do it because you'll still fill

855
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: in guys get hurt and shuffle around. I don't know

856
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: one other. I'm not going to read it anyone.

857
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Else, anyone else you guys that one? What was the

858
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: other one?

859
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it.

860
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: I haven't got into the off season mode yet. I'm

861
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: still recovering, like Keika Hernandez from that from the World Series.

862
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Speaker 1: I have something for you that just happened that a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans were asking about, specifically related to our show.

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Speaker 1: Alden Gonzalez just tweeted the Dodgers have picked up Max

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Speaker 1: Munty's option for twenty twenty six. It's ten million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's the easiest. That's of all time.

867
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Speaker 1: They keep signing him to those deals and Max love stayless.

868
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: Guy said, not everybody goes for the top dollars. No, really,

869
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Speaker 1: That's what I learned from listening to pest story.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just happy in a place Max is happy

871
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: and ten million dollars a year. Is not a badseller.

872
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: No, it is not super underrated player blue guy.

873
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Speaker 2: Look at their numbers when he plays.

874
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Speaker 1: Quality played, appearance guy.

875
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: It's a great interview.

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Speaker 1: You can call us bias because he's one of our

877
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: favorite guests. But talk to any Dodger and that's one

878
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: of the first players that comes up when they say,

879
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: tell me about the core and what's super important here.

880
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: We know Otani's good stuff like that, but.

881
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: He changes the changes the lineup when he's in the game.

882
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Some teams have done that in the past, Like I

883
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Speaker 1: know that was a thing with Carlos Santana in the

884
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Speaker 1: middle of his career, right Kratz knows the Phillies signed him.

885
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: There were some issues there, but the Phillies initially were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need better quality abs. Let's find the guy who

887
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: puts together great abs. Here's Carlos Santana.

888
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Speaker 3: It permeates. It's like osmosis. Everybody everybody follows along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting because, you know, the analytics

900
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: have become such a heavy, heavy part of coaching nowadays,

901
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: and I had a hard time watching this team now.

902
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: It may be because the astros have kind of have

903
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 4: have run through all of these guys that were selectively aggressive.

904
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: They were very good at zone command. They swung in

905
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: the zone and when they did they made great contact.

906
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: When it was outside the zone, they didn't chase. So

907
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: we're starting to see maybe that generation of hitters kind

908
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: of filter through the astros and move on the brain men's,

909
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: you know, the tuckers, some of these guys that were

910
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: very good at in the zone type thing. And sometimes

911
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: it becomes an institutional thing where you're not getting the

912
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: approach taught at a lower level and developing these guys

913
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: to get to the big leaes, because the idea is

914
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: once you get to the big leaes, you're going to

915
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: see more pitches inside the zone. Granted, guys are nastier,

916
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 4: spin rates are off the charts and the balls moving

917
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: all over the place, but they have a tendency to

918
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: be closer to the zone. And that's where I kind

919
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: of found some of my frustration maybe in the last

920
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 4: couple of years watching Astros baseball is, especially in twenty

921
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: twenty five. Granted, there was a lot of roster turnover,

922
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: so Alex Cintron and Snicker had to work with a

923
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: lot of different guys. But when you see a whiff

924
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: rate escalate as quickly as it did, a contact rate

925
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: drop as precipitously as it did, they were still making

926
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: hard contact, but they weren't making hard contact and appropriate situations.

927
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: For me personally, I'm a risk guy. I am a

928
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: get runner home from third base less than two outs guy.

929
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Speaker 4: Those are paramount numbers for me for a team to

930
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: be successful, because the Astros will always do a good

931
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 4: job of getting on base.

932
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Speaker 1: That's good stuff. That's your former teammate Jet Blum, who

933
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: calls Astros games for years and was a guest on

934
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Speaker 1: Crush City Territory or Astros show your thought.

935
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Speaker 2: I like, I mean, listen, analytics, are you very useful?

936
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Speaker 2: I want to make that abundantly clear. But there's also

937
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: something to be said for guys that can do both.

938
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Speaker 2: You can hit for power and you can drive a

939
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Speaker 2: guy in from third base with less than two outs.

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Speaker 1: You don't really use that stat to evaluate players.

941
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: I know, but that the goal of a game is

942
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: to score more runs than the other team. So if

943
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to drive a runner in a

944
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 2: run batted in, that means you're helping your team score runs. Right.

945
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: And if you don't strike out with a runner on

946
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: third and less than two outs and you can hit

947
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: that sack fly or you can infields back and you

948
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: hit the ground ball a second and get that runner in,

949
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Give me those guys. Give me

950
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: the guys that can get a guy over from second

951
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: with less than two outs can do some different things

952
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: because also it puts pressure on the defense because of

953
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the strikeout. It's like once you doay, okay, hey struck out,

954
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: Now onto the next right like again. But I get analytics,

955
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: and there are times where yes, go for the homers,

956
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: but there are also times where you might have to

957
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: do some right. What's that size? Yeah, I mean, listen,

958
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: I understand analytics, and I agree with it.

959
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: Analytics are a great way to build a team baseball

960
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: and making contacts. You're just talking about hitting, making contact,

961
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: being able to change your swing to be able to

962
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: hit the inside of the ball and move a runner,

963
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: pull hook something if you're a lefty, to try to

964
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: get the runner over. Like those are things that win

965
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: you the ball games. So if you build your team

966
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: based on analytics, I agree with that, but you can't

967
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: run it and play it every single day. Going here

968
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: comes a two run digger. I know we're down by one,

969
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: and if I get this runner over to third, it's great,

970
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: But it's even better if I get the runner in.

971
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: Like I saw people that were complaining about the IKF

972
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: bunt with Vladdie on second, nobody out and moving him

973
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: to third with the World Series on the line, Like

974
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: I saw people complaining about you have three outs and

975
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Speaker 3: you give one away. Took a really good play to

976
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Speaker 3: make the play. Like, there's things that you need to

977
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: do to win games. Like hey, Jay said, scoring runs

978
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: wins you the game if you score more than the

979
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: other team ops differential.

980
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, those crowds are what you

981
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: just said. You just said you want to build your

982
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: team with the analytics, but then you also have to

983
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: have this other guy. How can you do both? Then,

984
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: because if you if you just build your team off analytics,

985
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: then you also that doesn't, as Scott said, it include

986
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: certain certain things that aren't necessarily statistically you know, I

987
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: want so how do you how do you do both?

988
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: We're talking we're talking about a lineup, right or just

989
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: because that's what Blummer was talking about. I want the

990
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: guys that hit the ball as possibly hard as they

991
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: can hit it, and then I'm gonna have coaches who say,

992
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: you know what, you hit this ball so freaking hard,

993
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: we need you to be able to make this adjustment

994
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: in your six hundred had bats, maybe in one hundred

995
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: of them, maybe in fifty of them, to help us

996
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: win the game. We're not just swinging for the downs. Okay,

997
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 3: Analytically you can find guys who steal bases. Doesn't mean

998
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: analytics like stolen bases. It just means you gotta find

999
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: guys that are efficient in it, proficient in it.

1000
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what else you know? Because people

1001
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: say analytics all they care about is the three true outcomes.

1002
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: You are correct, So build your team with guys that

1003
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: hit the ball really freaking hard and then say, how

1004
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: can we make an adjustment when this type of pitcher

1005
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: is pitching against us to be able to get the

1006
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: job done. You can't just be a lineup that's like,

1007
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: oh boy, you're facing a camsh Littler, You're facing the tray,

1008
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: you savage. You have no chance to wear him down

1009
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: because of your swings. You have to build. And that's

1010
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 2: where I think the coaches come in. I think that's

1011
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: where the coach is understanding that the reason this guy

1012
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: hits the ball hard is because he is full sell

1013
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: in everything that in every one of his swings. How

1014
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: can you teach him to stay in the zone longer?

1015
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: How can you teach him to be okay with hitting

1016
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: thirty five homers instead of forty? That's that's the That's

1017
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: going to be the teams that make that adjustment that

1018
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: can take your team to can't that's what you just said,

1019
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: You can't because you just talked about the Yankees. Congratulations.

1020
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Oh they do in these situations, they stink out of them.

1021
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Usually that you have to be able to change. They're

1022
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: not going half layers aren't going to because the Yankee

1023
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: the Yankees, for example, they want the hard guys to

1024
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: hit the ball hard. We don't want them to change.

1025
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: We want homers. We want homers swing hard, Anthony Volpi.

1026
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: If Anthony Volpi didn't try to hit twenty five to

1027
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: thirty homers a year, cut down in a swing, his

1028
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: batting average to go up. His OBP would probably go up,

1029
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: his power would go down, and he could steal more bases.

1030
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: But what is he going to get paid for hitting homers?

1031
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: So that's what they all try to do. That that's

1032
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: the bottom line. So yes, what Blummer's saying I agree with.

1033
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, players in their

1034
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: agents say, man, you got to hit the ball out

1035
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: of the park and you got to drive the ball

1036
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: because that's how you're going to get paid.

1037
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean, what did Max Muntzy say he'd in the

1038
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: World Series? He didn't care that he went over seven

1039
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 3: in that one game. There is a way, in my opinion,

1040
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: to take the analytics to create the team that is

1041
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: going to be the best team you can possibly put

1042
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: out there based on analytics. Then when it comes to

1043
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: the games, we got to have different conversations. Why did

1044
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: we pick you up? It was because you hit the

1045
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: ball really hard, and the Yankees because we were talking

1046
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: about the Yankees, they picked up a lot of guys

1047
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: they tried to get. At one point they hit three

1048
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: of the hardest hitting players in the big leagues and

1049
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 3: they had two dudes in the minor leagues were the hardest,

1050
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: you know, hardest ex of velocity.

1051
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: If but you can't you just said you but you

1052
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: build your You just said you build your team off that.

1053
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Those guys that usually have the highest ex of velocity

1054
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: strike out a lot. John Carlos, Stanton, Aaron Joe swings

1055
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: and misses more than anybody. You can't coach him, though,

1056
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: unless you start at a younger age in the minor

1057
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: leagues and develop that, which they don't do. Because how

1058
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: do they get to the big leagues by hitting the

1059
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: ball hard? Of the Yankees organization and hitting homers. Hey,

1060
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: that's how they get to the big leagues? Right or wrong?

1061
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: This sounds like Dave Popkins at the Blue Jays this

1062
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: year and how he helped players.

1063
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: But they have different types of players. Though, they have

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: different types of players. They don't have all home run guys.

1065
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Right, But Hopkins would go to Bolpy right in theory

1066
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: calling out gangs hitting coach. I know nobody development wise

1067
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, dude, like this might be more

1068
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: of the player that you are. Let's try to go

1069
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: down this path Yankee fans, you could judge people.

1070
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: But then Bolby's agent in his ears going don't listen

1071
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: to him? Do you need to keep hitting homers and

1072
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna keep getting paid?

1073
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm just lying, but I'm not gonna say it.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, I don't even know who his agent they.

1075
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: He actually called Rob Manford and hey Rob, thank you soon.

1076
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm

1077
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: saying though, is like, yeah, we can all use Popkins.

1078
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: But honestly, out of their guys, I k bose of

1079
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: contact guy Glad, He's always been a contact guy. Kirk's

1080
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: a contact guy, right, Springer has always been pretty decent

1081
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: at making contact. Marshaw makes contact. Marge is probably the

1082
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: only guy that really swings, and he swings out of

1083
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: his ass, but he still makes pretty good contact. They

1084
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: don't have Aaron Judge, John Carlos, Stanton Volpi. These guys,

1085
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: are you know, Austin Wells are.

1086
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Just ro bust.

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't have those guys. If you don't, if

1088
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: you build your team off analytics, you get one or

1089
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: the other, and the one analytics wants and the other

1090
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: one baseball people want, meaning like old schooler more old

1091
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: school people. It's fine. Both work. The Dodgers have a

1092
00:53:59,520 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: great combo.

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Speaker 1: Both crack.

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Speaker 2: All right, before we go, this is Pete mccheska. He's

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00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: a Fox guy. He did the World Series for the

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00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 2: last twenty two years. He received the Tony Kubiak Tony

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00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: Kubeck Polish Hall of Fame National Sports Polish Hall of

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00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: Fame Award for Media Excellence. They gave this to him

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00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: during the World Series. So I want to give him

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00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: some love. Welcome to the Hall of Fame, Pete. We

1101
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: love you, I love you. Welcome to the Polish Hall

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00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: of Fame. Budd. It's something he'd been talking about for

1103
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: a while. We got him in. Now he's gonna go

1104
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: give a speech. He retired from baseball, he's still doing football.

1105
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: One of the great guys in baseball, in and in

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00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: media for baseball, always promoting baseball in the game. Just congratulations, Pete.

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00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that he got some love

1108
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: for that.

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00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome baseball career and his football career will continue

1110
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: producing wise.

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: That go, Pete. He's got the Polish. Oh man, he's

1112
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: got the most new Jersey accident. Go Pete. Oh, It's unbelievable.

1113
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 2: It's just awesome. I love me one of the best.

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Speaker 1: I have a quote from Joe Musgrove, Remember Joe Musgrove

1115
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: coming back, if healthy, good picture.

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00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Good picture.

1117
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if when healthy?

1118
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing because you just said if healthy?

1119
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying like. I didn't mean it that way.

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Speaker 2: I know, but it was just the way it came.

1121
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: Out the way it meant it is. When Joe's healthy,

1122
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. That's a nice guy to have in

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: the rotation. He wasn't there this year. Quote on the

1124
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: Stamina High quote. A little surprised at first, didn't even

1125
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Speaker 1: know he was even considering taking a role like that.

1126
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: But knowing he's in that spot, I couldn't be more excited.

1127
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: Level of respect he has from everyone in that clubhouse,

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Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited. That's Marty Caswell reporting on that quote

1129
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: from mister Musgrove, so they didn't know he was going

1130
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Speaker 1: for it. I wonder how it all went down, and you.

1131
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: Probably didn't have to interview.

1132
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: There will be a great story about how it happened

1133
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: because it had to be a conversation where either he said, hey,

1134
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this or Prowlers today, I think you.

1135
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: Are you interested? And so obviously it was yes, h

1136
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: that's all you need to know. That quote, it's all

1137
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: you need to know.

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00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: I love the surprise higher. So many people were just

1139
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: auto pooh holes. And this goes to show a nine

1140
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: and a half hour meeting, which was what it was

1141
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: reported for pooh holes and is in person doesn't mean shit,

1142
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: And probably it's.

1143
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: A little too long nine and a half hours. I

1144
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: can't sit with anybody for nine and a half hours.

1145
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: That's a If I'm on a plane overseas, man, there's

1146
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: at least a three hour nap, right, you get a

1147
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: break from whoever sitting next to me.

1148
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: For me, that would be at least two, if not

1149
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: three meals. There's a lot going on in the nine

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Speaker 1: and a half hours.

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: Hours, right a bathroom. There's a lot of sharing a

1152
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: bathroom in the minor leagues in that nine and a

1153
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: half hours. Nobody wants to see me eat a meal.

1154
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: Either I'm getting fired, I'm getting there, I'm halfway through

1155
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: the and I'm getting I'm eating and they're watching me

1156
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 3: they're like, sorry, this interviews over.

1157
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you skipped the meal, right, I would too

1158
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: do annoying. I did an interview once with a team

1159
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: for a broadcast role, and the guy took me out

1160
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: to lunch and it was one of those oh like,

1161
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: it's one of their places, so he ordered everything, and

1162
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got bad news for you, Bud, this

1163
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: is not gonna go well. I have a lot of allergies.

1164
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 1: You cannot order for me. I did not get the job,

1165
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah I am bougie doctor's territory coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed the show today because we have another

1167
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: one tomorrow Friday. Kevin Pollar is back on the show

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Speaker 1: with us for Friday's episode.