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Speaker 1: the Star. Now your hosts Bury Church, Danny McCray and
Speaker 1: Newe Scrugs. Here we are Players Lounge, Our last one
Speaker 1: of the year of tomorrow is New Year's Eve. We
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Speaker 1: the year. I knew we Scrugs, joined by two former
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys safeties, the Toledo Rocket himself Buried Church and
Speaker 1: the Survivor so Survivor season forty one. He is Danny mccrai.
Speaker 1: If you have not seen him, please go over to
Speaker 1: CBS dot com. They've got all the episodes there and
Speaker 1: watch my man do his thing. Guy. It is one
Speaker 1: more show. Here we will make our predictions as the
Speaker 1: Cowboys take on the Arizona Cardinals in their final regular
Speaker 1: season home game at Jerry World, and Tyrant Smith is
Speaker 1: expected to play big the pro bowler back in here.
Speaker 1: Uh he practiced today. Mike McCarthy says he looks good,
Speaker 1: so it looks like Tyrant Smith is gonna be up
Speaker 1: in there, barring any type of setback. Well, what type
Speaker 1: of practice is they here today? I saw some helmets
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah pass no, no, no, no no pads. I
Speaker 1: don't see no pass, but they might. Oh that might
Speaker 1: have just been the walk through that we was we
Speaker 1: were seeing. Yeah, yeah, okay, listen. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I'm glad my man's tiring is back. A healthy tyrant
Speaker 1: is better than most of the left tackles in the league.
Speaker 1: A healthy tyrant. So I just want a healthy tyrant
Speaker 1: to carry us into the playoffs. Not this in the
Speaker 1: in the lineup, out of line up, in the lineup,
Speaker 1: out of line up, tear still playing left? Is this
Speaker 1: shit like he'll be playing left? Do we need to
Speaker 1: like that? That's what That's what's gonna hurt us right
Speaker 1: going into the into the player So a healthy tyrant
Speaker 1: that can get us through the playoffs and this deep
Speaker 1: playoffs run, possibly to the super Bowl, that is what
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see. Yeah, I hope that happens because
Speaker 1: right now that they say he's healthy, but you know,
Speaker 1: they say a lot of things out there, So I'm
Speaker 1: hoping my guys healthy, he can go out there and
Speaker 1: get back to his dominating ways, because we're gonna definitely
Speaker 1: need this guy, especially once the playoffs come around and
Speaker 1: we play against some top tier talent. We're definitely gonna
Speaker 1: need him on that side protecting Dak Prescott. But when
Speaker 1: we talked to Looney a couple of weeks ago, when
Speaker 1: he was on a player's lounge, he talked about how,
Speaker 1: you know, moving those pieces around, having Terrence still go
Speaker 1: from right to left and bring it in Connor Williams
Speaker 1: and then uh, Connor's the other yeah, Connor McGovern, you know,
Speaker 1: in and out like in and out of the lineup
Speaker 1: like that. He talked about how that can affect you,
Speaker 1: as you know, affects your confidence out there, affects your
Speaker 1: play style because you always want to want to feel
Speaker 1: like that's your position, like this is this is my position.
Speaker 1: I can hold it down out there. But when they
Speaker 1: move you around like that, it shows some you know,
Speaker 1: some vulnerabilities out there, and you're thinking, as a player
Speaker 1: that coaches, man, did they really believe in me? I
Speaker 1: don't know, And now I think that's what affected Terren
Speaker 1: still moving that from right tackle to left tackle. But
Speaker 1: all that aside. Hopefully t Smith can come in here
Speaker 1: and hold it down stay healthy for this long run,
Speaker 1: because that, to me is the most important key health. No, no,
Speaker 1: we're not putting that aside. So y'all needed Joe Looney
Speaker 1: to come in here and tell y'all that I told
Speaker 1: y'all this every week. I just I literally told y'all
Speaker 1: this every week, stated said. And then a former NFL
Speaker 1: officsive lineman, he comes, he exact same thing. He verified it. Goodness,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Joe Looney. All right, thank you
Speaker 1: for validating what I said and how I felt about
Speaker 1: it and how Terrn still possibly feels about it. But
Speaker 1: what makes you think these like why would I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure these coaches know the same. They know you know,
Speaker 1: all right, man, it's gonna be hard to kind of
Speaker 1: get traction moving these pieces here and there. What made
Speaker 1: you think, you know, for them to decide, let's move
Speaker 1: these guys in left guard around, let's move this guy
Speaker 1: from right tackle to left tackle. What made you to
Speaker 1: get know that thought process? Because at that point you
Speaker 1: had time, You had time. You gotta lead in the division.
Speaker 1: You need to have your strongest five going forward. If
Speaker 1: you really plan on making a deep running to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna, if you're gonna do it, that's
Speaker 1: the top musical chairs on my guy. He knows, you know.
Speaker 1: Back in high school, they was around Lady mc guard
Speaker 1: sent up tackle running back. He was pulling, pulling around
Speaker 1: athletic Collins. Yeah, Collins before Collins out here, I'll see you.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to know that the fat Bury Church
Speaker 1: and I placed in Tyrann Smith has pretty much come
Speaker 1: to pass because he did make the Pro Bowler. He did.
Speaker 1: He did do that. We called it. We could come back.
Speaker 1: You probably the only player who miss five. Get him
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. They're gonna break a record for the
Speaker 1: people who played the less amount of games and made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. That's what That's what they gonna do.
Speaker 1: It just shows the doctors show the town that is
Speaker 1: they were able to do when they're out on the
Speaker 1: football field. Who ain't PF graded them more to the
Speaker 1: highest Almost you, PFW, I'm just saying no, are you
Speaker 1: personally okay already? But but they graded him as one
Speaker 1: of the highest. I'm not saying he wasn't graded high.
Speaker 1: He played well when he was in the game. When
Speaker 1: he was in the game, he played well, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying he missed five, even five, twenty eleven times right now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of a sudden, layout gonna
Speaker 1: be all today. He missed five too, So you know
Speaker 1: it's five you miss You missed five or less, and
Speaker 1: you can make the Pro Bowl. You gotta be a
Speaker 1: different breath all Notice, you gotta be a different breathe.
Speaker 1: You know you gotta be established is that player already?
Speaker 1: You got to be established as that player already. All
Speaker 1: you know, fight, I didn't have you want to, but
Speaker 1: my man is a pro bow, so fighting about that.
Speaker 1: Congratulates now. I do want to also make you feel
Speaker 1: a little bit good, Danny. Okay, make you feel good though, Burying,
Speaker 1: I you know, Burying, I were correct about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: going defense and taking Michael Parson. We were correct because
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you checked out that
Speaker 1: if you check out that list I sent you from ESPNS,
Speaker 1: Will Barnwell when he came out with It's all protein, Oh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to check it out because you couldn't
Speaker 1: check it out. So so break it down to us
Speaker 1: the Newes. Okay, so since I paid for it. I'll
Speaker 1: keep it the inside information. Um. Michael Parsons was first
Speaker 1: team All Pro at the linebacker spot. In fact, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had Zack Martin at guard on the first on
Speaker 1: his All Protein first team, Parsons linebacker, first team All Pro,
Speaker 1: Digs at cornerback first team All Pro, and Brian Anger
Speaker 1: the puncher made second team. Now, where I do want
Speaker 1: to go ahead and give Danny some some some credit
Speaker 1: here the guy he called for, a Rashaw Slater on
Speaker 1: this list was second team All Pro left tackle behind
Speaker 1: Trick Williams of the forty nineties. So Rasha Slater's uh
Speaker 1: had a really good rookie year and and and uh
Speaker 1: so all this particular was like we're both we're both
Speaker 1: correct tackle, second team. All it sounds like it's a wash.
Speaker 1: You know, we just right on Parsons. You know Slater,
Speaker 1: There's there's no wash because we talked about how this
Speaker 1: defense needed needed some playmakers, needed a blue chip player,
Speaker 1: and they got one. Michael Parsons also today named the
Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for December, so second
Speaker 1: straight month he's won the award. So Michael Parsons is
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons beyond this. I expect this is this is
Speaker 1: this is it. You need some help, But he's beyond
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm talking about. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. See, this is how he goes opposite
Speaker 1: of how you guys think and how I think. Okay,
Speaker 1: Nui was on the same train as me that said
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was the problem. All right, he was the
Speaker 1: issue you not so much. You said it was on
Speaker 1: the players. My belief was that if you bring a
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator in here, those blue those blue chip
Speaker 1: players that we that you thought we didn't have, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we will have them because we would
Speaker 1: have better coaching. Do we not have those blue blue
Speaker 1: chip players on the score. So my belief is, hey,
Speaker 1: bring Dan Quinny. We don't have to do nothing extravagant.
Speaker 1: We don't have to do anything extravagant that in my mind,
Speaker 1: we did not have to go spend at that time
Speaker 1: a first round pick on the defensive player because I
Speaker 1: really put all the onus on Nolan. So now you
Speaker 1: come back this year, take out Michael Parsons. He's he's
Speaker 1: a great I'm not I'm not saying that he's not
Speaker 1: He's a great draft pick for us, all right, hindsight,
Speaker 1: d law back blue chip right, nevill got him more,
Speaker 1: playing better, not blue chip, but he's playing better. Trayvon Diggs, curse,
Speaker 1: what would you say about what would you say about
Speaker 1: him on our team right now? He's playing well, playing
Speaker 1: well like we had the players then quick could bring
Speaker 1: those players in. He did a great job of getting
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and turn him into the player that he was.
Speaker 1: But that was my thought process at the time. The
Speaker 1: players were playing bad because of the defensive coordinator. I
Speaker 1: can't put it all on I mean, but you can
Speaker 1: look at the proof of it now. Yeah, but you know, No.
Speaker 1: One didn't have a whole off season. He didn't have
Speaker 1: many camp OTAs. He had an abbreviated training camp, no preseasons.
Speaker 1: I can't put it all. They couldn't play Cover three.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do that. I mean, they could play I
Speaker 1: couldn't play Cover one either could. But look at the
Speaker 1: pieces they had. He was getting burnt and Cover three
Speaker 1: yesterday just said we had the same guys. He got
Speaker 1: me on that. But I'm just saying I can't really
Speaker 1: put it all on Nolan because he didn't have that
Speaker 1: that off season to really, you know, put his program
Speaker 1: to work like that. Now, was he the best defensive coordinator?
Speaker 1: I don't think he was the best, but I think
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of share both ways with
Speaker 1: the players and Nolan. Last he tried to turn the
Speaker 1: four three team into the three four. That's his first mistake.
Speaker 1: I don't care what type of program you got. When
Speaker 1: you realize that you have a shortened training camp, short
Speaker 1: the preseason, you have to find a way to adapt.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn said, I'm going to create my defense when
Speaker 1: I get there based off the players that I see
Speaker 1: in their abilities. If Mike Nolan would have came in
Speaker 1: what they saying believe, he wouldn't been running though three four.
Speaker 1: But you can't tell me because he's in the lab.
Speaker 1: De Law can't get to the quarterback standing up. No,
Speaker 1: we saw the last year. He can't make to the
Speaker 1: quarterback standing up. They look like totally different players standing
Speaker 1: up coming off the edge. D Law did not look
Speaker 1: like the same players standing up coming up. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: how many how do you play? Last year? He didn't
Speaker 1: blame one standing up, hit me all of it. Go
Speaker 1: ahead to it, Church and I Church and I were right. Okay, byline,
Speaker 1: Church and I were right. They needed to go defense
Speaker 1: in the first round. They went defense in the first round.
Speaker 1: We see the tremendous IMPACTAE there. We said, go another
Speaker 1: year with tires, Schmid. The guys made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: We were right. That's all you can do. The final
Speaker 1: show here, you just say. You can say, Danny that
Speaker 1: we were The only thing you was righty to do
Speaker 1: was bring that chicken in here. Twice depends. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing you was right to do was to bring
Speaker 1: that Palmer chicken in here. So you can get a
Speaker 1: reaction out of me for twenty twenty and beyond. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing you would correct about. So take that.
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? Shout out to shout
Speaker 1: out to Slater being a great player, and shout out
Speaker 1: to Michael Parsons being a great player equally they both
Speaker 1: woun't know as okay, as in they both did what
Speaker 1: they were supposed to do. His first round picks. And
Speaker 1: if Slater was on our team, I think we're still
Speaker 1: have a great squad. Michael Parkson on our team, we
Speaker 1: have a great defense. Yeah, I can I can't tell
Speaker 1: on that one. Michael Parson is a generational though. Man,
Speaker 1: that dude. He only behind Trent Williams, who was a
Speaker 1: generational talism. What can what can an offer? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like market Parsons can make
Speaker 1: more of an impact. And then that's just a position
Speaker 1: they play. You know, that's a position they play. But yeah,
Speaker 1: tell your quarterback get hit the back of the head again.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, no, listen, don't don't don't don't
Speaker 1: take don't take anything away from left tackles down. That
Speaker 1: is that's the reason why they get paid so much
Speaker 1: is because they do black. Their effect on the game
Speaker 1: is huge as tiring. He knows because, like I said,
Speaker 1: that Atlanta game keeps two years ago reminds us all.
Speaker 1: So let me ask this question about Parsi's for you guys.
Speaker 1: In training camp, we started hearing some positive things, okay,
Speaker 1: a lot of positive notes and if people were talking
Speaker 1: about sky high expectations. I mean, he came into the season.
Speaker 1: I think Vegas had him as as the odds unfavored
Speaker 1: to win the Rookie of the Year on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the football here. So based on what he's
Speaker 1: done so far and what you thought he could be
Speaker 1: the high ceiling. Did he meet it? Surpass it? Where
Speaker 1: did Parsons fall? Uh? For me, he exceeded it. Um listen,
Speaker 1: and I'll honestly if any one of you say that
Speaker 1: he did not even seen your expectations, I won't believe you.
Speaker 1: He ain't seen it expectations. He came in, he got sacks,
Speaker 1: he's he's reading, reading defenses, being able to play in
Speaker 1: coverage and stop the run. The dude has exceeded all
Speaker 1: of my expectations. So he deserves every accolade that he's getting.
Speaker 1: He deserved his first round drafting. He should have been
Speaker 1: drafted earlier, and we redo it. Yeah, and they redo it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a top three he should have been
Speaker 1: drafted earlier. But I would say this, I am absolutely
Speaker 1: happy that Dan Quinn got his hands on Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: because I've seen some coaches be able to ruin some
Speaker 1: of these players by putting them in wrong in the
Speaker 1: wrong situation show. I think it's a match made in heaven,
Speaker 1: and he deserves every accolade that he's getting. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely deserves every single one. I mean, just just
Speaker 1: look at the impact that this guy has been able
Speaker 1: to have as a rookie, and not only a rookie,
Speaker 1: a guy that didn't even play the previous year at
Speaker 1: Penn State. He took the year off because of COVID.
Speaker 1: This guy's impact, Like I said before, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was as great as Das Bryant's his ar
Speaker 1: rookie year, but now that I really I mean, he
Speaker 1: succeeded that beyond. I mean the way he's been able
Speaker 1: to transform this defense. I give half to Dad Quinn
Speaker 1: and half to Michael Parsons, just the way that he's
Speaker 1: been able to turn and juice get this whole defense. Juice.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said last year, Delon Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: they weren't playing this way. They get injured, they see
Speaker 1: this guy, the young Lion, pretty much take over the defense.
Speaker 1: He's pretty much the main guy the defense. So when
Speaker 1: they come back, they're sitting there like, we gotta step
Speaker 1: our game up. We gotta be that guy. I want
Speaker 1: people to think this is my defense. So he's forcing
Speaker 1: these guys, he's veteran players, to step up their game.
Speaker 1: He's attacking offenses and forcing them to put their whole
Speaker 1: game playing around. How are we gonna stop eleven. It's
Speaker 1: not how are we gonna stop you know, this guy
Speaker 1: over here, the Marcus Lawrence over there, Randy Gregor, it's
Speaker 1: how do we stop Michael Parsons and stop him from
Speaker 1: affecting the game. And they haven't been able to figure
Speaker 1: it out because the guy has still been able to
Speaker 1: get back there, get sacks, make splash plays each in
Speaker 1: every Sunday out there. So to me, his impact, it's
Speaker 1: by far the best I've seen out of any rookie. Now,
Speaker 1: this would not be a great last show even if
Speaker 1: I don't push back on Church with this, with this
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. Okay, listens, not fifty fifty. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why it's not fifty fifty because if you
Speaker 1: don't give Trayvon Dick, if you don't listen before before
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons got in there and started and started showing
Speaker 1: what he could do, Trayvon dis came in here and
Speaker 1: said he was going to catch fourteen interceptions this year.
Speaker 1: He man, So it's not because Michael Parsons is out there.
Speaker 1: I said, it's not. He's not playing better because he's
Speaker 1: trying to chase Michael Parsons. He had to He knew
Speaker 1: this when he came in last year, had a rookie
Speaker 1: year at a sucky coach, and he knew that if
Speaker 1: he got his hands on those balls with in a
Speaker 1: better position, with better coaching, he was gonna be able
Speaker 1: to play better. He has. He has eleven and eleven interceptions,
Speaker 1: all right, So he he also has something to do
Speaker 1: with this defense being able to be what they are, right,
Speaker 1: because if you can't take the ball away and all
Speaker 1: you're doing is getting sexed, and you're you're you're a
Speaker 1: different level than what we are now is and leading
Speaker 1: the team, leading the league in scoring defense. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's balling. I'll give it to Diggs. This ball
Speaker 1: out of control. But I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to deal with how a Levin is able to
Speaker 1: get to these quarterbacks. I mean, we can't make we
Speaker 1: all though this Russian cover work together sometimes because the
Speaker 1: coverage will be locked down back there to give the
Speaker 1: D line an extra tick to get there and fights first,
Speaker 1: and sometimes d line will get there quick when a
Speaker 1: dB is burned. But I think a lot of what's
Speaker 1: going on in this secondary, how they're able to play
Speaker 1: so well together, it is because this pass rush is amazing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's led by Parsons and what he's
Speaker 1: able to do to do put up? Who put this pass? Man?
Speaker 1: They lucked up and it got parts. And they don't
Speaker 1: even want Parsons that they picked. They went that no party.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is a d line coach. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: smart enough to put Parsons up as a Russia, as
Speaker 1: a Russian got hurt. Yea, when the injuries came, he
Speaker 1: would have been We'd have never knew about Parsons being
Speaker 1: being being the best pass rusher out there. If the
Speaker 1: law ain't get hurt. I can't. I can't give that
Speaker 1: Quinn all that. I can't. I can't give him all.
Speaker 1: He's the beast. They were playing good before Parsons was
Speaker 1: playing Russia in Yeah, so let's not they were playing
Speaker 1: eight points man. They got both US tournaments. This is
Speaker 1: what I'm going to compare the conversation about Digs and
Speaker 1: Parsons playing together in the twenty eleven NBA Finals, watching
Speaker 1: the defense between d Wade and Lebron James when they
Speaker 1: were facing the Mavericks. There were times out there, man, now,
Speaker 1: just I felt like I was watching two Doberman pinchers
Speaker 1: it were just feeding off each other, and they were
Speaker 1: just a pack working together, and they were doing some
Speaker 1: pretty cool things out there on the court. And that
Speaker 1: kind of even goes back to what we saw Jordan
Speaker 1: pipping at times when they were out there together. Mean,
Speaker 1: they were just together doing this and a lot of
Speaker 1: what Barry's talking about. I'm gonna give you credit because
Speaker 1: Warren sapp Well also said that the backdoor work without
Speaker 1: the front. They've worked together, and they've been tremendous. When
Speaker 1: I go back and think of Michael Parsons, I go
Speaker 1: back to our conversations with Will McClay that I had
Speaker 1: with him. I said, is could he be Pat Swilling?
Speaker 1: And you guys are too young to remember Pat Swilling,
Speaker 1: but he was a great linebacker in New Orleans when
Speaker 1: they had the Dome Patrol, They had Ricky Jackson, they
Speaker 1: had Sam Mills. Pat Swilling was coming off the edge.
Speaker 1: There was Lawrence Taylor at the time. Laurence Taylor was
Speaker 1: the standard, and I mean it was Lawrence and then
Speaker 1: everybody else was down below. Pat Swilling was kind of
Speaker 1: that next guy down below. And what I mentioned Pat
Speaker 1: Swilling that Will McClay his eyes lit up and he
Speaker 1: said yes, he could be that, and let me tell you,
Speaker 1: he's blown past any of the numbers that Swilling put
Speaker 1: up as in his first or second year combined in sacks.
Speaker 1: So he's been tremendous and the Cowboys have been blessed
Speaker 1: to have him. They've been blessed that Dan Quinn has
Speaker 1: put treyvon Digs in the right position and also allowed
Speaker 1: treyvon Digs to go out here and travel with people.
Speaker 1: You just really had a coach who took two really
Speaker 1: good talents and put him in a fantastic position to excel.
Speaker 1: So props to both of those guys. This is just
Speaker 1: one all pro list. We'll see exactly what other ones
Speaker 1: come out here, but both of us should be first
Speaker 1: team on all of it, and hopefully one of the
Speaker 1: two guys is the defensive player of the year. I
Speaker 1: love it if one of those guys was defensive player
Speaker 1: of the year. And I know people are talking about
Speaker 1: t J. Watt and Miles Garrett, but can you give
Speaker 1: t J. Watt the defensive player of the Year on
Speaker 1: a losing football team. I can't do it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can. I mean, he has the sack numbers,
Speaker 1: but it's not like Parsons is like five or six
Speaker 1: sacks behind them, you know, I think Parsons is only
Speaker 1: you know, maybe two right there, like two or three
Speaker 1: sacks behind them. And then Parsons also eclipses him in
Speaker 1: tackles by like thirty forced fumbles as well. I think
Speaker 1: they're right there abound the same number. So would you
Speaker 1: rather go with the guy on the team that's, you know,
Speaker 1: behind a little bit in sacks, but his team is
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, his team is going in the
Speaker 1: right direction, or a guy that you know has one
Speaker 1: category over somebody, but their team they're not gonna make
Speaker 1: it to the playoffs. Yeah, I listen. I think it's
Speaker 1: tough for all three of them. I'm not I'm still
Speaker 1: putting Trayvon Diggs in there. This eleven interception season is
Speaker 1: something that you just do not see that all eleven
Speaker 1: interceptance of the season and still have two games up.
Speaker 1: It's something that we might not see again for another
Speaker 1: twenty years. So I think he's in the running. I
Speaker 1: think you have to figure out a way to compare
Speaker 1: the T. J. Watt and Parsons, like put them on
Speaker 1: the same level, because they do play a different position.
Speaker 1: He doesn't wrest as much the t J Watt does,
Speaker 1: so I think they also see different type of schemes,
Speaker 1: they're seeing different type of blocking whatever. But I do
Speaker 1: want to I do want to say this. They should
Speaker 1: it should be one of the Cowboys players. We have
Speaker 1: a better team. Uh, we're likely going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think we've we've been in a better position throughout
Speaker 1: the entire season than the Pittsburgh Steelers. And t J
Speaker 1: watch is great, but I think this is the year
Speaker 1: for one of the Cowboys players to be a defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Okay, look, we gotta take a
Speaker 1: break here. Danny said something that made me say, oh,
Speaker 1: this could be bad. This could be bad. Let's dive
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Speaker 1: mccrab Danny, you mentioned something and talking about Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: and Trevon Diggs where these guys both have great cases
Speaker 1: for the NFL Player of the Year. Now, could this
Speaker 1: be a situation where they cancel each other out because
Speaker 1: they both have outstanding resumes and that neither Cowboy wins
Speaker 1: the award. I don't think now, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think I think the people that are going to
Speaker 1: be picking the player to win the Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year award can't see right through that, all right?
Speaker 1: You you you? And then they also have to see
Speaker 1: these guys because they played for the Cowboys literally every day.
Speaker 1: Every day you're talking about trade und days were living,
Speaker 1: you talking about how good can Michael Parsons be? And
Speaker 1: I think that is going to continue to ring in
Speaker 1: their ears as they as they consider who they're going
Speaker 1: to vote for. So I don't think they canceled each
Speaker 1: other out. Eleven picks and having a rookie All Pro linebacker,
Speaker 1: but those things are going to stay and tall when
Speaker 1: people decide who they're gonna vote for. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it'll cancel it out either. But my reason is
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, Michael Parsons, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna run away with this award. Um, you know, Dave's
Speaker 1: definitely deserves to be in the conversation. But I think
Speaker 1: when the voters get to going at it, they're gonna
Speaker 1: look at those eleven picks and be like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. But he's also giving up the most yards
Speaker 1: in a corner out of any corner in the National
Speaker 1: Football League right now. So I think they're gonna take
Speaker 1: that into at a consideration and sit there and be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can give them the Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year award, because if you think about it,
Speaker 1: when they gave it to Stefan Gilmour a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, he was a number one corner out there.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the pick numbers that Trayvon Diggs had,
Speaker 1: but he was shutting down any type of receiver. I
Speaker 1: think he gave up you know, one of the lowest
Speaker 1: you know yards ratings, whatever it is. I don't know
Speaker 1: the exact number, but he was one of the best
Speaker 1: corners that shutting someone down. So I think if if
Speaker 1: Diggs had those eleven picks and had these you know,
Speaker 1: lockdown numbers to back it up, I think he would
Speaker 1: have an even more solid case. But right now, I
Speaker 1: just think Michael Parsons is gonna run away with this thing.
Speaker 1: But but what we know is you usually only get one.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be a lockdown corner throughout the entire season,
Speaker 1: and then also get eleven exception right now because because
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna try, the quarterbacks ain't gonna try. You what,
Speaker 1: what would you rather have on your team right now? Though?
Speaker 1: A guy who who who you can depend on literally
Speaker 1: almost getting an interception per games, Well, it depends who
Speaker 1: I got, because like, if I have our front, if
Speaker 1: I got what you know, Parsons and Dlon and Gregor
Speaker 1: and him, I'm like, hey, give me that corner like
Speaker 1: a like a stephone get more a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: That's just so you want to Byron Jones over a
Speaker 1: trayvon dis If I got guy that can get aft
Speaker 1: of the quarterback, create those fumbles that way, I'm going
Speaker 1: with that. But you know, in another situation, I can
Speaker 1: see your defenses, you know, make that they might not
Speaker 1: have that great pass rush, but they need to get
Speaker 1: the ball back somehow, some way. Digs that you gotta do.
Speaker 1: So I'll see it both ways. I'm always going for turnovers, turnovers,
Speaker 1: get picks in zone. He's reading backside zone with a
Speaker 1: seattle of over. I just get interceptions. We've been begging
Speaker 1: for guys who can take the ball away. Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: We didn't want him here because he could take the
Speaker 1: ball away. I'm going with the guy who any time
Speaker 1: could be like, hey this is we got a shot.
Speaker 1: You know, knew his favorite coach. He's saying like, we
Speaker 1: need ball gassacast, that's new his favorite coach. He goes
Speaker 1: by it. So we'll see Bill Partall say that. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's saying that. Jimmy jump Jimmy. Jimmy Johnson said difference
Speaker 1: makers by the way, Um, Jason Garrison, Okay, all right, outstanding,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, you're gonna get it on a two CB man,
Speaker 1: oh man, we're y'all all right, so so all right,
Speaker 1: So I this conversation had me. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me just go ahead and hit up two people
Speaker 1: I know who are going to vote on the award.
Speaker 1: And one person who's voting on the defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year told me probably Aaron Donald. It's down to
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald or Parsons for me. A D's the best
Speaker 1: defensive player in football and he's finishing with a flurry.
Speaker 1: So that's what one voter said. Another voter said Diggs
Speaker 1: and Parsons could split the vote, costing both letting T. J.
Speaker 1: Watt potentially slip in. Parsons is the better player. But
Speaker 1: if Diggs gets to twelve or thirteen interceptions, folks will
Speaker 1: vote off the stat sheet. So that's two different people
Speaker 1: who have a vote about the defensive Layer of the Year,
Speaker 1: Like they don't have no idea whatever he brought a
Speaker 1: hold on what he has been in the you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting a couple of sacks from the defensive tackle position.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty hard. And would you say, without looking
Speaker 1: at stats, would you just say who's the most dominant
Speaker 1: defensive player in the NFL right now, if you would
Speaker 1: without looking at stats, you're just looking at play, just
Speaker 1: the eye test. Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons over and over,
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald absolutely, I think. I think his versatility
Speaker 1: gives him that that that opportunity to be the most
Speaker 1: dominant he can. He could dominated pass coverage the man
Speaker 1: is switching off man and man pick routs, and then
Speaker 1: then he's going to stop the run on the second level,
Speaker 1: and then he's rushing on the first level. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you talk about dominance, that is what dominance is.
Speaker 1: And it takes nothing away from Aaron Donald because he's
Speaker 1: not playing linebacker and he's not covering guys. But that
Speaker 1: ain't Michael Parson's fault. So what So in European what
Speaker 1: would be the more dominating trait being able to be
Speaker 1: more versatile out there against pass and run or just
Speaker 1: being a guy that's just you can don't matter, double team, triple,
Speaker 1: that don't matter. He's going bulldoze ye and he's gonna
Speaker 1: create havoc in the backfield. Versutile, Aaron Donald couldn't go
Speaker 1: back then play a stack linebacker. He would if he
Speaker 1: could go back there and cover the running back coming
Speaker 1: out of the backfield and switch it off because he
Speaker 1: because he has that type of instinct, he would. But
Speaker 1: that is something that is specifically for guys that are
Speaker 1: as talented as Michael Parsons. He's he's just that versatile.
Speaker 1: It's nothing against the rest of the guys. But if
Speaker 1: you can't do it, can't do you think? Now, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm biased because I saw how bad this defense was
Speaker 1: last year. It was just really bad. And to see
Speaker 1: the kind of impact that he's made on this team
Speaker 1: and they're sitting here at the number two seeds. None
Speaker 1: of us expected this. Dear Hope was, hey, man, maybe
Speaker 1: they could just be average, and Danny talked about he
Speaker 1: was the one who and you would you would? And
Speaker 1: it was it was you and dan Quinn, two people,
Speaker 1: You and dan Quinn sitting over there together believing in it.
Speaker 1: The rest of us were just like, man, can these
Speaker 1: dudes just be average? They're not average, they are elite
Speaker 1: and this defense is carrying the offense. Man. So I'm
Speaker 1: sorry when I look at what Michael Parsons has done,
Speaker 1: I will not use the words LT. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: not When people want to talk comparisons, I think that's sacrilegious.
Speaker 1: I watched I watched LT play and you guys were younger,
Speaker 1: you didn't see it. No one is in that category
Speaker 1: when we talk about the best of all time, Lawrence
Speaker 1: is that check him out. On the Madden Special is
Speaker 1: Aaron On Peacock, but it's called All Madden. They did
Speaker 1: a whole segment with Lawrence Taylor, and you just see
Speaker 1: just a glimpse of how dangerous this man was. And
Speaker 1: while Michael Parsons has some fantastic talent, he's not there yet.
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor is at a whole other thing. We ain't
Speaker 1: never seen an like this before. So but what he's done, man,
Speaker 1: what he's done for this defense. Brother, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: anything defensively like this from the Cowboys since the nineties.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a defense play like this since the nineties.
Speaker 1: And even then, in the nineties, they didn't have a
Speaker 1: linebacker making these kind of plays. Ken Norton was a
Speaker 1: good player, Robert Jose is a good player. But they
Speaker 1: weren't Michael Parsons. They weren't. They weren't this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be All Pro as a rookie, and
Speaker 1: he didn't even play football last year. This man will
Speaker 1: do next season, Yes, I mean next season. I feel
Speaker 1: bad for folks. Man, it's gonna be nasty with this.
Speaker 1: You can do now that he knows what to do,
Speaker 1: how to train, how the game we're gonna be played.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's ridiculous right now. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask both of y'all this going forward. You know, this year,
Speaker 1: we know he's been playing both back and forth, linebacker,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, whatever the case may be. He's a hybrid,
Speaker 1: whatever the case going forward, could you see next year
Speaker 1: him being more of that prominent on the edge of
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage pass rusher or do you think
Speaker 1: they're going to continue with this depending on the matchup,
Speaker 1: having him that linebacker, having him on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I think that depends on who you still have on
Speaker 1: the roster at that point. We know, Randy Gregory is
Speaker 1: if you find a way to keep keep the same
Speaker 1: core guys that you have up front and you also
Speaker 1: keep dan Quinn, I think that it will stay the same. Uh.
Speaker 1: Like I continue to say that unfortunately dan Quinn is
Speaker 1: so great that he no listen that I still that
Speaker 1: I do believe that if there, if Mike Nolan was
Speaker 1: here and we had Michael Parsons, I do not believe
Speaker 1: that he would be the same player. I do not
Speaker 1: believe that he would have been putting the same positions
Speaker 1: to make the same plays that he's making right now.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I said mats made to him.
Speaker 1: Hopefully DQ is still here and we can keep Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory and that way we still have that mean front
Speaker 1: four that nobody can block, and then Trey Vun Biggs
Speaker 1: and those guys guys can still go back there and
Speaker 1: do work. So No, hopefully DQ was here, so I
Speaker 1: hope he still plays the same position, same balance. All right,
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