WEBVTT - Case Closed: September Madness Bracket! 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.360 Be Around the NFL podcast comes up with new bits 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.920 faster than Greg can kill. There from the Chris Westling 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:15.280 podcast studio, It's around the NFL. I'm Dan Jansas. Got 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:21.919 some heroes here, Greg roseatal Mark Sessler, Apologies, I missed 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.439 Monday's show. I haven't killed a bit in a while. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.000 By the way, are we allowed to say where you were? Yeah? 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:35.239 Well you know I missed the show. Like Tom Brady, Um, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.879 I had a personal matter and uh, I needed to 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.280 step away in August tend to some issues, but I'll 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.640 be back and I am back. That personal matter was 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:52.160 taking my two children with my wife, uh to Legoland 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:57.200 two nights, two days. It's a lot um the dense 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.640 voyage I've been there. It's yeah, it's uh. There's literally 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.760 a song in the Lego universe called this Song is 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:09.040 Gonna Get Stuck Inside your Head that plays on Loop there. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.040 It's a lot Uh. Tuesday morning, we were at the 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.920 breakfast buffet in Um, one of the hotels on the grounds. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.160 Emily comes up to me and says, I think there's 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.560 a famous guy around the corner. And as I go, okay, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.480 and she's like, I thought at first he was a guy. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.600 He looks like a southern boy. I thought maybe I 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.039 went to college with him, but now I think he 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.560 might be famous. And I turned the corner and there 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.240 he is, and I think this is a safe space. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.119 I don't feel like I'm blowing up his spot because 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.800 by the time people listen to this, there's no way that, um, 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.080 you could do more than two days and lego land, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.640 he's gone unless you were actually trapped there. Um. Drew 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.840 Brees was there with his wife and what appeared to 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.000 be his young son. And I have to say I 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.440 respected uh Drew Brees for being in this mess hall 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:09.520 chowing down on room temperature sausage and scrambled scrambled eggs 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.480 that had been battered by the heat lamp over the 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:16.000 over hours, just real like every guy stuff. So we 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.840 made awkward eye contact at one point, uh to just 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:23.919 two NFL giants, you know, by happenstance, thrown together. Um, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.160 And it was a special moment. I would ask, like 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.160 number one, if people were, you know, noticing him and 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.480 approaching him, But where they noticing you and approaching you? 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.919 I didn't know. I didn't get it. There were no sightings, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.000 no spottings of a t N from a t N 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.840 fans um, although um I did. It did get me 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.040 ruminating on fame and true fame when I saw Breeze, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.600 because Drew Brees is Drew Brees. And one thing that 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.400 jumps out to you about Breeze is he does not 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.160 look like superhuman like so many pro athletes. It looks 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.919 like a regular dude. But it's also yeah, he's also 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.960 one of the most recognizable professional athletes in this country 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.840 of the last twenty years. Saved to your wife who 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.400 thought it was a college boyfriend, Yeah, well I don't 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.160 think a boyfriend and I wouldn't again, like when that's where, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.079 that's where I go with it. But when you talk 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.640 about my wife, you know, let's let's take it easy. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.760 So with the uh insinuation and he immediately goes there, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.799 I know that was where my my memory was. Its tasteful, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.919 it's dis tasteful. That's my wife a man she knew 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.160 in college then. But that's even more vague and bizarre. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.079 But anyway, yeah, I imagine I hope he wasn't bombarded 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.200 by people looking for autograph selfies coming up to him constantly, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.440 But I don't know how it doesn't happen. Did you 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.360 make um while you were there, because you know they 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.160 have the the little huts where you can bring the 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.040 children in for a little downtime, where they can play 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.840 with the legos. Did you make anything? Did you sit 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.800 down with them and make anything out of legos yourself? 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.080 And if so, what? I never touched a lego? No, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.240 I can't even imagine what is on those legos. And 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.360 the children were sanitizing the hands at a furious level. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.680 Put it that one. That's a logical argument to have 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.200 to stay away. Um, but I'm happy to be back, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.160 and UM, thank you to Patrick Claibon for sitting in 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:11.280 today's show. We are going to listen. It's not March madness, Greggy, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:17.440 it's September madness. Well's it's technically August, right, but it's 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.280 gonna be September madness because we have, uh, we're gonna 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.240 break down all of the Week one games. They're sixteen 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.880 of them, sixteen games, thirty two teams, zero teams on buy, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.920 and we're gonna do it bracket style, March madness style, uh, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.200 to figure out what is the best game of Week one? 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.080 And yes, is it probably the Thursday night opener between 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.960 the Rams and Bills. I can imagine that, but our 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.040 job is to not be so basic about it. And 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.400 that really drilled down down onto what game is gonna be? What? 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.320 What does the game that gets you? What's the one 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.960 we're most excited for. It's like Week one is the 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.880 best week of the season to me. Now all the 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.000 teams are as like unknown as possible. We've had this 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.280 whole offseason to get ready. Now we've got about three 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.920 four weeks to literally get ready just for these matchups. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.080 I mean, just you putting it out there that Bills Rams, like, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.920 we gotta figure out if that's not number one. I mean, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.520 I'm not going to vote for it now. I mean 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.320 I'm bringing that thing down. Well, so the way this works, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.400 like if there could be a Cinderella that goes and 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.719 meats Bills Rams, That's what I mean. Greg always looking 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.440 to consume power, gain it. That's not flu There's three 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.479 external power. So if Greg, if Greg says I want 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.520 to take out the Rams and Bills out of the 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.800 bracket just because I want to be different, there's still 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.440 two other voters here. Absolutely rules absolutely, But you said 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.400 it's gonna be the game we're most excited for, and 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.000 is that the best game is that maybe the most 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.800 meaningful game. It's you know, I I don't think that 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.839 would be my number one game I'm most excited for, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.240 So that would be just being honest. Well here's my concern. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.039 Here's my concern that And again this exercise is not 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.200 to tell everyone that Rams Bills is the best game. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.640 So I would love for some you know, I choose 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.680 to be in out, But if it gets bounced out early, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.880 I'm concerned because Greg is already saying he wants to 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.320 be an agent of chaos, and Mark in the Rams 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.640 is well documented their relationship. Maybe the Rams aren't gonna 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.159 make it to number one, so maybe hang around and 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.200 see what is I mean? It's like the most most 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.039 beautiful girl in school. She doesn't need to be the 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.720 problem queen. We're going to that game. That's enough. Like 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.080 the game is gonna be amazing. Maybe it doesn't exactly. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.880 You're filtering it through your mindset. We're trying to audience. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:34.599 What's the best game. That's the idea? Are you because 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.520 I am? I'm not because I think it sets up 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.960 the segment to be spice here than then then just 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.800 go in chalk. Spice is good all right, Yeah, we 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.760 don't want to go chalk um, but before that, let's 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:53.279 do some news. Yes, Dan Tallica a k a. Dan Campbell, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.719 head coach of the Detroit lines from episode two of 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.159 Hard Knocks, and if if you love Hard Knocks or 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.360 if you love this show, if you love both, you 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.880 gotta check out the Hard Knocks podcast with me and 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.560 Colleen Wolf. Episode two dropped last night. We talked about 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.200 Dan Campbell, of course, but it wasn't all Campbell an 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.440 episode two, Mark. There was a lot of your boy 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.920 blow hard stand up, but it was a little bitter 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.520 sweet what was that, Dave? And there was a little 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.640 bit of a better sweetness to it all because it 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.080 didn't end in a storybook way an episode two. That 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.239 is the nature of David Blow. There's a reason he's 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.800 often forgotten by the public for months at a time 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.840 because he's you know, nestled deep on the roster. But 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.360 I think we learned more about the person and there 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.640 is a sense of tragedy to his on field career potentially, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.080 but the person himself. Um, I thought did a nice 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.680 job on Hard Knocks. I love this coaching staff and 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.480 you know, we'll we'll just save it for your guys 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.960 comments you and Colleen. I mean the show is great. Um. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.440 I I just I find this to be my favorite. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.560 I've had issues with Hard Knocks when it follows just 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.920 typical beats and like you get into episode two and 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.040 three and it's the same old business. Um, I feel 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.800 completely different about this one. The energy of this team, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.120 and I even think with Dan Campbell, who I understand 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.200 he's a bit of a sound bite machine, and people 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.600 latch onto that last night because they went into areas 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.800 where the team was struggling here and there. I thought 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.760 Dan Campbell, the teacher, Dan Campbell, the true motivator, the 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.080 leader in good times and bad came out and I 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.800 think there's probably coaches around the league to think, look, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.640 that's great. He can be a raw rob. I let's 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.800 see if he can hang with Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.880 Will find out. But I do think that he's changed 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.800 the Detroit Lions tangibly from everything we thought about them 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.360 the entire time we've done this show. They're the ultimate 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.599 like fall in love with the Hard Knocks team and 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.640 then root for him and maybe overrate them, but I 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.360 don't care. I'm in I mean I'm I just hope 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.960 that's not what we remember about blow. We'll always have 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.199 the Thanksgiving game, but that was a big almost perfect 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:58.000 either that wasn't perfect, but at least perfect. And I 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.200 just I just hope he doesn't. I hope he makes 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.480 the team. I mean, I hope, you know, both him 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.200 and Tim Boyle uh make the team because when Tim Boyle, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.920 yeah yelled out Dimer with like no other teammates around 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.520 him after he threw his touchdown fast and just Tim 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.640 Boyle is they truly bizarre quarterback if you watched his 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.400 games last year, and and I'm not saying I would 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.600 want him as my quarterback, but he's he's very compelling. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.040 I was saying before the show when we were talking 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.640 a little bit about Boil, like it's a great combination 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.559 when you have a quarterback who's not good but also 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:37.040 nuts but also has like that they're just and just 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.520 as totally unpredictable that they're they're clearly intrigued by They've 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.520 been trying to give him this job, but I don't 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.600 know if he's totally unpredictable arms what you're aiming for 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.680 at this level of the sport. And reminder to the 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.360 UK fans listening to this show Hard Knocks drops for 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.440 you guys in international territory on Friday, So watch it 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.080 and then check out the podcast with Connie and I check. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.160 That's how long it takes to send the tapes across 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.559 the city. It is in some levels, it's still one. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.040 Let's get into it. Let's start with the Chargers who 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.120 get a deal done with Derwin James. Four years, seventy 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.520 six point four million dollar extension, forty two million guaranteed. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.000 He's the highest paid safety in league history. Don't tell 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:22.360 Jamal Adams. It's like information campaign announce Seattle, just shutting 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:27.240 out everyverything from the outside. I think he's been taken 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.760 care of financially. Sure, I mean sure, I'm sure he's 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:36.520 fine anyway, Derwin James fantastic, Uh when healthy hasn't always 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.000 been the case, but obviously the twenty six year old 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.960 is someone that the Chargers mark believe in very much 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.400 to be a mainstay in the back of their defense. Well, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.080 it starts with Brandon Staley, who's you know, spent the 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.640 last two off seasons reconstructing this defense, and sometimes regime 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.320 changes change what you feel about the player. He could 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.960 not be more all in. He called him the signal 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.120 caller and the heartbeat of the defense. He said he 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.160 also does not look at Derwin as a safety, which 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.000 I think got but as an impact player. I think 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.480 that was probably great for the Derwin James Holden camp 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:05.880 in the agent when you're like, you're not gonna just 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.000 get paid as a safety, You're gonna get paid as 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.720 the most expensive safety because you're way more than just 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.080 one positional type of player. And I would look at 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.560 this Chargers defense on top of who they added in 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.240 uh in free agency, j C. Jackson, Uh, you know 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.280 you've got Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack. I think that Brandon Saley. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.440 We're the healthy Derwin. James is set up to do 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.040 what he wants. And if you're Tom to LESCo, these 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.839 these are your first round picks over the last five years, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.840 justin Herbert, Joey Bosa, Derwin James, Rashawn Slater, and Mike Williams. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.880 Tom Telesco needs to win playoff games, but there's no 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.079 question that he's found a way to build a team. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.000 Well that's for because I think Herbert's gonna get there 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.599 for first team All pros right there, like Slater is 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.560 going to get there. James is there, is there, and 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.400 I'm not putting Mike Williams there, but that's also a 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.839 good pick. That's brilliant work by your front office and Derwin. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.319 James is a perfect mac match of coach in scheme. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.240 I think when he says like he's not just a safety, 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.200 it's like last year they needed him to play coverage more, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.480 they needed him to be a corner back more because 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.480 of what their team looked like. He helped the seer 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.480 atterly really improved as the safety next to him. They 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.360 can kind of fit him in to whatever they need, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.679 not just in a given week, and they really use 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.800 him in a million different ways depending on the game plan, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.600 but in a given season, and that that's like so 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.760 valuable that if there's injuries here, he can cover you there. Uh, 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.600 we know what he's like as a pass rusher, as 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.720 a playmaker, as a coverage guy. They're just really aren't 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.760 many guys like him, And it was great to see 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.360 last year that he could stay healthy for the whole season. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.400 I think there's hope now, even another year removed from 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.640 all those surgeries, that he'll be even more explosive. You 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:50.320 wonder where raiders at Chargers week one where the September 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.000 met a selection committee comes down on that one. We'll 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.319 find out, we'll find it's getting buried a little bit. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:00.559 I noticed that at four. I know it's you know, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.880 it's opposite Packers, Vikings, Chiefs, cardinals, like it's not getting 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:10.439 the too bad for twenty right for twenty bro, that 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.719 was That was my favorite damnack bit that he just 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.440 ran in from classic just no matter what it was 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.320 during Damna sex, you know, seven years I think we 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.760 were with him at the company or more if it 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.480 was for twenty and he was in NFL media building, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.079 he yelled out, you could be like rooms away and 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.439 you just see here from far away. For twenty bro, 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.640 there were I think I think because we had so many, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.520 we had so many like executives over the years couching 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.840 those newsrooms that their response to that was variable. Right. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.959 It was hilarious that he was at one boss in 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.400 the corner who would crush a coffee bug in his 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:54.439 hand when he heard voice alright, love check In other news, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.280 the Jets did not have any bad surprise is when 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.480 Zack Wilson had his knee surgery. Uh, turns out it 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.080 was a clean up of the meniscus and it's a 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.880 bone bruise, and the two to four week time frame 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.320 for the second year quarterback appears to hold. So he's 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.520 very questionable for Week one. I would not anticipate seeing 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.120 Zack Wilson in Week one, but you never know. Um. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.720 Obviously I wasn't on the show on Monday. My my 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.840 thoughts are, UM, I think all Jets fans really need 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:33.080 to be aware that this this might not work out. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.400 I'm I'm trying to be very I've always tried to 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.240 be optimistic about Wilson, but since the day has been drafted, 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.320 after I put it went all in on Sam Donald. Um, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.760 I try to keep Wilson in a little bit more 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.400 of a distance. Uh. This is now a second knee 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.960 injury in two years. He had some um health issues 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.520 at b y U staying healthy. He's not a big guy, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.960 even though he has bulked up, and I just I'm 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.680 prepared for whatever happens with Zack will and I would 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.000 not be surprised if Joe Flacco plays more than many 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.440 Jets fans anticipate this season. So it's kind of like 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.720 the headspace I'm in I'm hopeful he's gonna get healthy, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.680 stay healthy, be better on a better team. But this 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.600 to me is just another little red flag as someone 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.920 who's been through this a million times um his inability 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.880 to stay healthy for a guy that needs the reps, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.440 thet a guy that needs the show big improvement. I'm 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.120 happy we dodge the bullet because it would have been 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.400 a huge organizational setback if he blew out his knee, 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.280 because they would have been a really bad situation where 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.720 they would have had to get through this year and 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.240 then give Wilson a chance next year, and then if 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.320 he didn't do well next year, you know what happens 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.520 next and you're starting over. Now. They still looks like 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.520 they'll be able to evaluate him, but I think he's 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.360 gonna be on a short lease with this organization. I 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.080 just feel that I think that expectation setting is similar 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.720 to the expectations setting that they the Jets are putting 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.840 out through the media about whether her play week one 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.440 or not. Because even though there was that two to 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.360 four week timeframe, basically anyone who had a source inside 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.320 the Jets was like, don't expect in week one, and 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.840 great if he surprises and he gets ready early, but 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:11.640 they're gonna want to be careful. I think they were 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.240 careful about his injury last year during uh the season 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.840 when he sat back down and made sure he was 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.080 really ready, and he did come back a little fresher, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.080 a little better. He needed those reps, you know, the 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.400 the six reps he had to me were as concerning 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.680 as the injury that he had. But maybe he'll be 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.000 back for what used to be the Big Bowl. On 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.960 this podcast, Jets browns Now, I guess it's losing like 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.880 a little bit of spice since the sisler jumped off 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.840 a little more depressing a little bit significant amount of spice, 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.640 you know. The Well, we'll see where this thing. Joe 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.200 Flacco versus Jake Brisket matchup doesn't exactly scream to me, 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.000 uh bracket for Week three or two or a week 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.160 one bracket. We mentioned this on our last episode. I'm 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.240 not for you as a Jets fan, This isn't what 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 you wanted, but you do get Joe Flacco versus Lamar 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.560 Jackson a little bit of an old wild West. Yeah, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.720 we'll talk about that in the tournament where that if 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.480 that makes it a better game or a worst game. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.840 Hold that thought let's move on. In other news, Drew Lock. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.920 You know, Greg, I hope this wasn't something that led 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.520 to a fist pump because that would not be a 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.280 good luck, good luck for you. Drew Lock tested positive 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.520 for COVID nineteen. He'll miss the Week two preseason game 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.399 against the Bears for the Seahawks. So this was his 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.200 big chance after Gino Smith got the start in week 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.560 one for Lock to say, remember me, keep me in mind, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.720 I should be the starter. Well, now Gino slides back 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.600 in as the starter. He's gonna, you would imagine, get 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.159 more reps and now Gino Greggy feels like he has 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.840 a big lead in this battle. Yeah, I think it's over. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.520 I think it was probably over anyways, just based on 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.000 the first game that I think the mistake Lock made 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.119 at the end of it. But they had had a 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.359 plan that Lock is going to start the second game, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.479 and he, you know, took first team reps in practice 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.639 Tuesday before they realized he had tested positive. So that 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.000 was the first time all off season. But even then, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.520 in the press conference right after practice before they knew, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.040 he ad Corona Pete Carroll, who answers every question as 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.200 if he's like a big Gino Smith fan and wants 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.920 to tamp down Drew lock. Hype said, well, don't make 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.960 no mistake, Gino is still our number one, but we're 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.399 gonna give lock Uh this one chance. I don't think 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.800 there was much doubt in my mind, but any doubt 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.960 is gone now. I don't even think lock Lock won't 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.399 wind up starting any preseason games now because I think 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.760 they'll want Gino to do the third one. I'll reference 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.119 the title of an absurd um book looking at the 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.560 jfk assassination, a look back that basically just painted Oswald 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.480 as the loan gunman without any other nuance of research. 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.480 Case closed Gino's starting week one. The wait, the entire 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.480 book had no nuance of research zero. If you open it, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.800 the pages are empty. But it's a very salty topic 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.000 between Mark and I because clearly Oswald acted alone, and 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.919 people just want more answers because they don't want to 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.520 People don't want to accept the reality that one man, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.560 no matter how small he is in society, if he 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.760 wanted to take down the most powerful man in the world, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.439 he could. That's scary, that's frightening. Just happened in Japan. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.040 Not the most powerful man in the world, but the 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:17.520 former Prime minister sixty three, I understand it more conspiracy people. 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:22.199 It's it's fertile ground. The majority, the majority of the 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.880 country disagrees with you. That doesn't matter. People don't want 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.240 to have the last five to ten years and in 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.040 kind of no one accepting obvious answers for many things 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.240 in our in our society. Do you even a particle 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.760 of research and I'll discuss the topic with you. I 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.399 told you it's a spicy topic between me and the 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.959 Sessler and Gregg tried to wait in and he just 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.040 got electro ship. Well, he didn't like who I was 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.919 connecting him to their connecting. You know a lot of 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.200 a lot of conspiracy theorists, it's not it's not connected, 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.680 and you're you're doing an ill job with that. Those 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.880 conspiracy theorists like kind of ruined it for the other 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.520 conspiracy theoriest people. I feel like you're you're like a 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.600 good spiracy theorist person. You don't deserve to be grouped 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.359 in with that other group. Mark, I thank you, and 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:10.119 I also don't group myself in with with that other group. Thanks. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.160 Thanks for the confirmation though, what happened to my voice 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:17.359 there all right. Karl Nassa is back with the Bucks, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.919 twenty nine years old, the nfl is only openly gay player. 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.800 He was released by the Raiders uh in a salary 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.200 cap moved back in March. But here he is back 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.560 with the Bucks. Um He spent two seasons there, reunited 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.399 with Todd Bowles uh greg A nice addition here for 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.280 Tampa Um a guy that maybe was overpaid by the Raiders, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.639 but was not ineffective. No. I think he played pretty 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.080 well with the Raiders. That's like a role player, and 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.040 I think it's just nice. It's good to see him 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:49.640 back in the NFL. I think it would have been 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.520 a disappointing end, and there's no guarantee makes the team, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.840 but it would have been a disappointing end that, you know, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.280 the NFL's first openly gay player and he loses his 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.600 job the next season and he doesn't come back because 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.320 because I just didn't think that there was anything going 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.560