WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Time for Overkill? 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:17.320 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:17.880 Yes? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.720 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.520 Absolutely? 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.560 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.880 Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.320 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.800 We were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.240 Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.400 It is Wednesday, January thirty, first, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.560 Episode number one ten. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.520 The Break. We are live mass WBC Mortgage Studios at 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.559 the Star and we got a lot of things we're 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.360 going to get into today. We got to talk about 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.760 some comments from Jerry Jones, he is at the Senior Bowl, 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.120 had some interesting things to say about the team, about 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.000 Mike McCarthy, about Dak Prescott. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.200 We'll get into all that. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.600 We'll talk a little bit about some some other coaches, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.240 some guys that are going to Philadelphia, UH, their offensive 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.320 and defensive coordinators and maybe what we think about that 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.560 and how that could affect. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.000 The NFC East UH. And then, as I promised last. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.160 Week, we'll hopefully get into some conversation on Dak Prescott 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.560 and start kind of dissecting this thing a little bit. Patrick, 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.280 you wrote an interesting article there about the quarterbacks, so 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.360 we'll get into some of that talk. If we don't 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.520 get to all of that, then we certainly have next week. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.000 We always have next week, and we can bring that 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.600 stuff back up next week. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:31.600 I'll be at the super Bowl, so you guys have 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.160 that next week. Yeah, it's radio row next week. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.520 Come on, man, Yeah, you didn't find it. You didn't 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.920 find a flight for the boy nice to come along. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.880 You could have just nice smuggled me in. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.360 Now I'll tell you what. Then the radio road could 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.520 be fun, yeah, and it. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:52.360 Could also be just just aggravating. Yeah, you know, it 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.600 could be very You know, there's people that you could 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.760 talk to, and then there's other people that you kind 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:57.000 of get. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:58.280 They get thrown on. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.000 You and now you're like who, And now you're trying 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.360 to figure out how to make good radio out of this. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.240 So yeah, that's actually the fun of radio road though 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.160 from a listener standpointcause you never know who's going to 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.000 pop up, and you never know how the hosts are 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.120 going to react to because you can. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.040 Tell when the hosts don't really know the person. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:18.320 The questions are very strange. The one interview we did 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.919 last year that was like it was crazy, was we 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:27.679 interviewed Christian McCaffrey's mom, and that's after the whole thing 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.520 that we went down, our show went down talking about 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.639 him and you know, and how you kind of take 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.480 care of him, and she called us some choice words 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.560 for what we did. And it started off like we 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.040 were trying to be apologetic and nice and all that, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.280 and then she started turning to kind of mean and 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.600 ugly and we went we started being mean and ugly 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.560 back to her. It was interesting, right, It was interesting. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.640 So sometimes you get those kind and another times shent no, 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.040 no doubt. But I don't blame her. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.880 I don't need it. I don't blame her. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.640 I don't blame her for being for being his defensive 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.720 of her son as she was. But she she came 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:08.680 after Gavin Dawson and I and we were like, yes ma'am, Yes, ma'am, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.560 and then it turned into listen here, you b word. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.400 So that's the beauty of Radio Row. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.760 You Sometimes you have these marvelous interviews and the other 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.000 times you get attacked and then uh, but yeah, to 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.080 be a part of that, especially with Las Vegas. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.120 That's gonna be a lot of fun. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.160 Yes, you guys have fun when you hadding out Monday. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.200 Uh we leave Monday after our show. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.400 Yeah, all right, well you have a good time. Yeah, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.800 bring back some stories. I'm sure you'll have a few 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.320 and throw at us a few, especially from Vegas. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.120 Yeah right, yeah, See what's what's appropriate for the air 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:42.560 and what's that. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.320 We'll seeing with this that it's not til it's not good. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.320 All right, let's jump in though. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.200 Jerry Jones yesterday at the Senior Bowl had an opportunity 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.080 to meet up with some of the media. Our own 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.480 Nick Harris was there as well. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.880 Did a great job covering that. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:58.920 Yeah, it was good stuff. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.600 Got some good, good questions and I thought some very 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.320 interesting answers. I want to start with the answer that 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.880 I thought was most interesting to me, which I think 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.320 he can go a lot of different ways. And that's 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.080 the way that I'll take it from the standpoint of 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.600 getting your feedback. But let's start first, Chris, you have 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.159 a cut number three ready for us. I'd like to 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.640 talk about this and this is the one where uh. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.560 We're trying to win awards. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.160 We can't do anything, man, we can do nothing around. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.279 Here, Come on abarts once a week show what do 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:29.760 you want to start? 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:30.360 All right? 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.279 This one was particular to talking about their approach for 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.360 twenty twenty four, and he used those two words that 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.200 I don't think we've heard around here a lot. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:39.880 All in. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:52.200 Uh let's hear that clip and we're all you did? 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.240 I knew I should have. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.000 Just could be down and just like read it myself 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:00.800 like I normally do. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.880 Okay, here we go here, were. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.920 Getting ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.000 We'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.480 That's the end of this year. So when you say, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:16.800 is there any thought I think we'll strainer, we'll push 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.559 the hell out of it. Is that doing something different 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.480 than you in the past in that respect, Well, it 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.599 will be, uh yeah, and it will be going all 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.359 in on different people than you've done in the past. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:31.080 We'll be going all in. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.440 We've seen some things out of some of the players 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.800 that we want to be all in on. And yes, 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.520 I would say that you will see us this coming 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.599 year not building for the future. It's the best way 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.160 I don't say it. And that ought to answer a 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:49.960 lot of questions. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.040 So I think the interesting part to me there was 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.480 him mentioning all in and then Clarence asking the follow 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.880 up question, is this different from the past, because that's 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:01.680 all in com mean a lot of different things to 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.080 a lot of different people. I'll say this for the 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.560 purpose of our conversation. I don't think any of us 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.080 is necessarily going to say, Okay, yeah, we know this 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.839 is going to be all in whatever that means. I 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.280 think everybody, including the fans out there listening, are like, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.880 let me see it before I make a judgment. But 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.880 here's what I would like to know for each of you, 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.920 what would be all into you? Because I do think 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.960 that's a different opinion for all of us of what 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.520 all in looks like with this team, with this current roster, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.720 of what you have and the coaches that you have. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.680 What does all in look like as you enter training 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:32.600 camp of next year. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.080 Let's start first of you, Pat. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.400 Well, first, it's going to have to start with free agency. Obviously, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.719 this is a team that last year's draft notwithstanding, and 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.560 will with the next couple of years play out before 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.919 we really grate the draft. But it's not looking and promising. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.560 But they normally draft very well, free agency has been 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.720 their achilles heel for a very long time, and that's 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.240 because they've often been kind of tight on the purse 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.440 strings as far as not playing in the first week 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.560 of free agency, often not in the second week. They'll 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.280 go to like the third week and see what kind 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.640 of you know, deals they can get. So for me, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.160 it starts there. If you want to prove that you're 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.960 all in, make a splash in the first week of 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.360 free agency. That's gonna be paramount to having the fans 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.720 buy into that particular line of thinking, because if this 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.440 is another off season where you know, you say you're 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.559 all in, and to be fair, this is not something 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.000 I've heard Jerry say in quite a while. And I 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.880 mean I'm talking since like the nineties. I mean, he's 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.120 always been kind of walking the line. But if he's 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.280 saying he's all in and they're not building for the future, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.240 I don't know how much I believe that second part, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.360 because Will is still in the building. Will McLay is, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.080 But it starts with first week in free agency, when 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.160 those whales start to hit the free agency market. If 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.360 the Cowboys are still sitting on their hands come the 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.040 second wave going into the third wave, I can't believe 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.080 what you told me because I'm not seeing the evidence. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.280 Then yeah, uh, maya, I'm crazy. But I feel like 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.600 I have heard him say they're all in before, But 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.760 what I have not heard him say is not building 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.960 for the future and worrying about the now right now. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.680 And to me, I agree with everything that Patrick said 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.560 as far as free agency and making a splash there 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.480 for sure, not just in like having to sign some 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.880 of your own players because you do have very talented 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.200 guys are about to become free agents, but also who 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.040 is out there, Let's make a splash that way, which 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.360 is very uncommon for the Cowboys to do. But also 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.880 I would say quit trying to experiment with things like 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.720 if you're gonna find a linebacker, find a true linebacker, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.560 find someone that's true to their position. Don't try to 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.520 experiment with maybe Okay, this guy plays tackle, but he 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.559 could be a guard, or find the tackle, find the guard, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.400 find the linebacker, keep your safety where he needs to be. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.000 So I would say, to me, maybe that's how I'm 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.600 interpreting what all in would be is like, let's spend 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.240 some money the right way and let's not try to 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.600 get too cute with hybrid positions and let's find true 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:56.760 players at their position. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.800 Yeah, I think you guys are onto something. I'm gonna 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.600 take a different way. I think he's pushing the chips 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.520 in the middle of the table and gambling on Dak. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.400 And he's gambling on Mike McCarthy because if if, in 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.439 fact that you know, say that he lets this thing 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.240 ride with Dak, he's and Dak has and I don't 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.000 know if Dak can play any better than he played 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.920 this year. I don't know if we might have seen 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:23.360 Dak Prescott's ceiling here. We really might have. But the 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.240 thing that I think with Jerry and if the approach 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.640 I would look at it, is he's basically saying, Okay, Mike, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.400 I'm gambling on you and Dak. I'm gambling on you 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.000 and and if if it if you guys deliver, then 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.360 I'm going to lose this bet. If you guys, uh, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.920 you know, do we I mean, if they gamble and 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.040 you do well, then the team's going to do well. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.880 Likely then I'm gonna have to pay the bet, is 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.360 what I'm gonna doing. So I think that's where in 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.520 my interpretation I like that the free agency part makes 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.000 the most sense. You know, this is a team that 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.640 really is big on signing their own that that is 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.320 very important to them. They draft very well, they deserve 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.520 to sign their own because they draft as well as 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.360 they do. But if you want to take a different approach, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.240 he can say, I'm betting, I'm betting. I'm betting on 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.520 Mike and I'm betting on Dak, and I'm gonna let 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.160 this ride. And if it doesn't work and they they 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.880 they bust, then we're gonna have to start over. Then 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.800 I'm gonna I'm gonna bust. I'm gonna bust here. But 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.880 you know, and and let's let's see. You know, if 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.800 with the thing with Dak, he's gonna have to pay 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.240 Dak anyway. If he lets it ride and Dak has 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.840 a great year and get you get to where you 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.760 want to go, you're gonna have to pay him anyway, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.040 you know right now, you know, maybe you just say, Okay, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.679 we'll see, we'll see. Well, you know, we haven't had 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.240 the playoff success, but I'm gonna I'm gonna gamble here. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.720 You know, I'm gonna make you guys gamble too. And 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.440 I don't know, I don't know if Dak would leave. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.560 I don't know. Dak has a you know, he's about 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.680 to have a new family here, he's got a new home, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:54.400 he's got home. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.040 You know, he's built a lot of things here. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.120 It'd be hard for him to pick up and go 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:03.160 to Nashville, Tennessee, or New Orleans, Louisiana or someplace like that. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.480 So Jerry might be gambling like, Okay, you know you 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.400 won't go anywhere, you know, if if. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:10.040 It's bit of a gamble. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.280 Yeah, yeah, So I think that's the uh, that's the approach. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.199 I would look at that. He's maybe maybe they're gonna 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.480 maybe they're they're gonna tie Mike and Dack together here, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.319 and he's gambling that they're going to deliver, and if 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:25.839 they don't deliver, then they bust. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:26.840 Then they have to move on. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:32.120 And I'll add one more variation of interpretation here. It's 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.320 the second part of his statement, Like Ambar said, that 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.200 really just jumps out at me the whole and not 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.400 build for the future. What then comes to my mind 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.040 is I realize you've already traded a couple fifth rounders. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.360 That's how you got Cooks and Gilmour in here. But 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.600 to make that the latter part of that statement true, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.240 and to add evidence to the former part of the statement, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.280 are we talking blockbuster trade here? 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:54.920 Right? 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.920 That would show that you're you're so all in that 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.560 you're willing to mortgage some draft picks some of your future, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.040 be it this year, next year, whatever the case may be. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:05.800 And obviously we can't say any names, but there are 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:07.800 some names that come to mind that are around the 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.120 league that are basically trade bait right now. So if 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.960 the Cowboys be it free agency, they go get one 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.360 of these big whales in first wave that come free 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.920 and or they say, you know what, We're going to 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.240 sacrifice the future to get a major whale in right now. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.040 That's how you make that statement true that Jerry Jones said, right. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.280 And I think whether he was trying to or not, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.839 I think that's what was left with fans. I think 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.120 fans probably look at that and they're like, Okay, I 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.600 want to see it first where I believe it. But 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.800 as a part of that, what the expectation he set 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.719 was we're gonna be players, right, And I think that's 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.600 what most fans are looking at when they hear all in. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.079 They're like, because what do we. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.199 Hear every year we see where there's this guy available, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.640 really good player, and inevitably the Philadelphia Eagles are right 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.719 there in the next right, and fans are like, man, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.760 it seems like they're just and again I'm speaking from 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:56.600 the fans point of view. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:57.439 Fans are just like man. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.319 They just always seem like they're willing to push the 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.520 chips in and say whether it works or doesn't. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.520 Because this year you could say it didn't work. They 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.319 did it this year and it didn't work. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.240 But for whatever reason that they get the credit for, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.719 they always are all in. And that's what I think 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.400 the expectation is from fans now that Jerry said this 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.800 is okay, show us you're all in when it comes 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.200 time for free agent, when there's that really good player 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.560 that's out there that, by the way, could help your 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.360 running game, could help your defensive rush game, can help 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.160 you up the middle linebackers. When all those kind of 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.199 players are available, Let's see you be player and then 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.760 you show us that you're all in. And I think 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.840 that's the expectation he created. Whether he was trying to 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.040 do that or not, I think that's the expectation he created. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.560 And now the Rams have shown that you can be 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:46.280 all in and then after that bubble bursts, you can 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.400 still be contenders as long as you're as long as 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.319 your personnel that you're putting together are the right type 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.200 of personnel. Because this is supposed to be when the 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.920 bubble has burst for the Los Angeles Rams. But here 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.600 we are twenty twenty three and they were right there 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.400 playoff team that could have made some waves. So with 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.480 that being on the table as well, it makes it 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.680 that much more unforgivable to not go all in because 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.079 now we know we've seen McVeigh and that crew over 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.679 there in Los Angeles and be able to say, hey, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.240 we went all in and we got a Super Bowl 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.599 and we worried about the later later, and when the 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:17.200 later came. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.480 Guess what, we were still competitive. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.680 You're never out of it as long as Will McLay 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:21.640 can draft, right. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.120 Because that's how that's how the Rams did it. Think 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.120 about it. This year. They researched because that. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.920 In Karen Wood, those two guys mat the defensive players too. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.760 They had they had on four players that were on 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.000 the All Rookie team, you know, and those were all 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.160 those weren't high picks. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.240 Yeah, those were all in the middle of the draft. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.320 And you know, and yeah, you can absolutely as long 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.680 as you have faith that Will McClay can draft, this 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.000 team will never be out of it. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:44.680 You know. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.200 That's that's in an these scouts and stuff, I mean, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.680 they they do a great job at that, you know. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.080 So I think, to me this offseason, what I would 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:53.360 like to. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.680 Try and figure out is why why do you have 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.760 regular season success and not playoff success? And I was 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.760 talking to some people this morning. I wonder if what 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.520 you guys thought about this. I think for fifteen years 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.600 you might not have had the coach that could get 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.840 you through the playoffs. And it's coming to me now 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.880 as I'm watching these I think the guy at the 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.840 Buffalo is a really good coach. I don't know if 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.760 he's the guy that can get them to the super Bowl, 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.680 you know, I don't know that. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:21.040 You know. 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.920 I'm looking at these coaches that are left, you know, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.000 and you think, what's the difference. How can you have 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.960 all these all pros and Pro Bowl players and a 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.120 roster that every owner and general manager around the league 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.680 would cove it, you know, and where you know, and 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.320 I look at really the last fifteen years of you know, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:42.080 maybe that's Jerry Jones blind spot. You know, the coaching hires, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.480 you know, I mean, you go with the parcels, but. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:45.800 You know, he came in. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.600 I wish they'd have had Bill ten years younger, you know, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.480 because I think you would have won a super Bowl 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.320 probably in oh seven with that team, with Bill coaching 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.200 the team. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.040 To kind of pose a question back to you. Sure, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.840 if that's the case, let's assume that that's true. Yeah, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.920 then you look at it Mike McCarthy and say, well, 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.560 he has taken a team to a super Bowl. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.840 It's different here, but it's different here. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:09.000 Is what's different to me is that that I look 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.640 at it as maybe that things have passed him by that. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:13.480 Way, you know. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.520 I mean I look at sometimes you do get the 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.960 right combination of players. I just I look at at 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.080 the Cowboys. I look at the just as the Cowboys 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.600 just the last fifteen years, with how good these rosters 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.160 have been and why, you know, And with Mike, I 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:33.680 feel like there's there's there's something missing there. It's it's 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.240 I don't know if it's him, the staff. There's something 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.640 that's missing that's not allowing you to have playoff success. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.840 And I'm looking again I'm looking at these teams that 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.480 are in the play and they're advancing the championship games 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.360 and advancing to the super Bowl. And yeah, the Kansasity 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.640 Chiefs have one of the best quarterbacks to ever play 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.520 this game. But they have a coach that got him there. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.360 You know, they have that type of thing. Shanahan. He's 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.200 that type of guy. He could they could bust on there, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.399 they could bust on Trey Lance. But somehow take the 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.520 quarterback that's the last pick in the draft. As we're 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.439 all packing our bags up and saying good night, you know, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.240 they take that guy, go to the super Bowl with 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.639 that guy. There's an element there. And I'm not just 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.919 blaming Mike. I'm just saying overall, maybe Jerry Jones blind 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.320 spot as good as he they are assembling a team. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.880 Maybe they're blind spot the last fifteen years, ten years 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.200 with Jason Garrett, you know, you know, the last four 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.160 or five years with Mike. There's got to be something 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:37.520 here that's not translating and allowing them to get. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:38.439 To where they need to be. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.800 The roster's too good not to have success, you know, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 and you just start to you start to you know, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.719 when you start to analyze things. Yeah, Mike went was 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.080 you know twenty eleven. Okay, it's pretty pretty recent. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:54.160 But I just. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.879 Wonder, is there something that that's holding this team back 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.920 on that side of the ledger? You know that's that's 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.960 not because I do I look at these other teams. 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.160 I'm like, what's the difference, you know, what's the difference 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.240 with these these coaches and stuff like that. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.040