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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, January thirty, first, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: Episode number one ten. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 6: The Break. We are live mass WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 6: the Star and we got a lot of things we're
Speaker 6: going to get into today. We got to talk about
Speaker 6: some comments from Jerry Jones, he is at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 6: had some interesting things to say about the team, about
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy, about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: We'll get into all that.
Speaker 6: We'll talk a little bit about some some other coaches,
Speaker 6: some guys that are going to Philadelphia, UH, their offensive
Speaker 6: and defensive coordinators and maybe what we think about that
Speaker 6: and how that could affect.
Speaker 2: The NFC East UH. And then, as I promised last.
Speaker 6: Week, we'll hopefully get into some conversation on Dak Prescott
Speaker 6: and start kind of dissecting this thing a little bit. Patrick,
Speaker 6: you wrote an interesting article there about the quarterbacks, so
Speaker 6: we'll get into some of that talk. If we don't
Speaker 6: get to all of that, then we certainly have next week.
Speaker 6: We always have next week, and we can bring that
Speaker 6: stuff back up next week.
Speaker 1: I'll be at the super Bowl, so you guys have
Speaker 1: that next week. Yeah, it's radio row next week.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, Yeah, you didn't find it. You didn't
Speaker 2: find a flight for the boy nice to come along.
Speaker 2: You could have just nice smuggled me in.
Speaker 4: Now I'll tell you what. Then the radio road could
Speaker 4: be fun, yeah, and it.
Speaker 1: Could also be just just aggravating. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: could be very You know, there's people that you could
Speaker 1: talk to, and then there's other people that you kind
Speaker 1: of get.
Speaker 4: They get thrown on.
Speaker 1: You and now you're like who, And now you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make good radio out of this.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's actually the fun of radio road though
Speaker 6: from a listener standpointcause you never know who's going to
Speaker 6: pop up, and you never know how the hosts are
Speaker 6: going to react to because you can.
Speaker 2: Tell when the hosts don't really know the person.
Speaker 1: The questions are very strange. The one interview we did
Speaker 1: last year that was like it was crazy, was we
Speaker 1: interviewed Christian McCaffrey's mom, and that's after the whole thing
Speaker 1: that we went down, our show went down talking about
Speaker 1: him and you know, and how you kind of take
Speaker 1: care of him, and she called us some choice words
Speaker 1: for what we did. And it started off like we
Speaker 1: were trying to be apologetic and nice and all that,
Speaker 1: and then she started turning to kind of mean and
Speaker 1: ugly and we went we started being mean and ugly
Speaker 1: back to her. It was interesting, right, It was interesting.
Speaker 1: So sometimes you get those kind and another times shent no,
Speaker 1: no doubt. But I don't blame her.
Speaker 2: I don't need it. I don't blame her.
Speaker 1: I don't blame her for being for being his defensive
Speaker 1: of her son as she was. But she she came
Speaker 1: after Gavin Dawson and I and we were like, yes ma'am, Yes, ma'am,
Speaker 1: and then it turned into listen here, you b word.
Speaker 4: So that's the beauty of Radio Row.
Speaker 1: You Sometimes you have these marvelous interviews and the other
Speaker 1: times you get attacked and then uh, but yeah, to
Speaker 1: be a part of that, especially with Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, you guys have fun when you hadding out Monday.
Speaker 4: Uh we leave Monday after our show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well you have a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bring back some stories. I'm sure you'll have a few
Speaker 2: and throw at us a few, especially from Vegas.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, See what's what's appropriate for the air
Speaker 6: and what's that.
Speaker 1: We'll seeing with this that it's not til it's not good.
Speaker 2: All right, let's jump in though.
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones yesterday at the Senior Bowl had an opportunity
Speaker 6: to meet up with some of the media. Our own
Speaker 6: Nick Harris was there as well.
Speaker 4: Did a great job covering that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good stuff.
Speaker 6: Got some good, good questions and I thought some very
Speaker 6: interesting answers. I want to start with the answer that
Speaker 6: I thought was most interesting to me, which I think
Speaker 6: he can go a lot of different ways. And that's
Speaker 6: the way that I'll take it from the standpoint of
Speaker 6: getting your feedback. But let's start first, Chris, you have
Speaker 6: a cut number three ready for us. I'd like to
Speaker 6: talk about this and this is the one where uh.
Speaker 4: We're trying to win awards.
Speaker 2: We can't do anything, man, we can do nothing around.
Speaker 4: Here, Come on abarts once a week show what do
Speaker 4: you want to start?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: This one was particular to talking about their approach for
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, and he used those two words that
Speaker 6: I don't think we've heard around here a lot.
Speaker 4: All in.
Speaker 2: Uh let's hear that clip and we're all you did?
Speaker 2: I knew I should have.
Speaker 6: Just could be down and just like read it myself
Speaker 6: like I normally do.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go here, were.
Speaker 3: Getting ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address.
Speaker 3: We'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in.
Speaker 3: That's the end of this year. So when you say,
Speaker 3: is there any thought I think we'll strainer, we'll push
Speaker 3: the hell out of it. Is that doing something different
Speaker 3: than you in the past in that respect, Well, it
Speaker 3: will be, uh yeah, and it will be going all
Speaker 3: in on different people than you've done in the past.
Speaker 2: We'll be going all in.
Speaker 3: We've seen some things out of some of the players
Speaker 3: that we want to be all in on. And yes,
Speaker 3: I would say that you will see us this coming
Speaker 3: year not building for the future. It's the best way
Speaker 3: I don't say it. And that ought to answer a
Speaker 3: lot of questions.
Speaker 6: So I think the interesting part to me there was
Speaker 6: him mentioning all in and then Clarence asking the follow
Speaker 6: up question, is this different from the past, because that's
Speaker 6: all in com mean a lot of different things to
Speaker 6: a lot of different people. I'll say this for the
Speaker 6: purpose of our conversation. I don't think any of us
Speaker 6: is necessarily going to say, Okay, yeah, we know this
Speaker 6: is going to be all in whatever that means. I
Speaker 6: think everybody, including the fans out there listening, are like,
Speaker 6: let me see it before I make a judgment. But
Speaker 6: here's what I would like to know for each of you,
Speaker 6: what would be all into you? Because I do think
Speaker 6: that's a different opinion for all of us of what
Speaker 6: all in looks like with this team, with this current roster,
Speaker 6: of what you have and the coaches that you have.
Speaker 6: What does all in look like as you enter training
Speaker 6: camp of next year.
Speaker 2: Let's start first of you, Pat.
Speaker 7: Well, first, it's going to have to start with free agency. Obviously,
Speaker 7: this is a team that last year's draft notwithstanding, and
Speaker 7: will with the next couple of years play out before
Speaker 7: we really grate the draft. But it's not looking and promising.
Speaker 7: But they normally draft very well, free agency has been
Speaker 7: their achilles heel for a very long time, and that's
Speaker 7: because they've often been kind of tight on the purse
Speaker 7: strings as far as not playing in the first week
Speaker 7: of free agency, often not in the second week. They'll
Speaker 7: go to like the third week and see what kind
Speaker 7: of you know, deals they can get. So for me,
Speaker 7: it starts there. If you want to prove that you're
Speaker 7: all in, make a splash in the first week of
Speaker 7: free agency. That's gonna be paramount to having the fans
Speaker 7: buy into that particular line of thinking, because if this
Speaker 7: is another off season where you know, you say you're
Speaker 7: all in, and to be fair, this is not something
Speaker 7: I've heard Jerry say in quite a while. And I
Speaker 7: mean I'm talking since like the nineties. I mean, he's
Speaker 7: always been kind of walking the line. But if he's
Speaker 7: saying he's all in and they're not building for the future,
Speaker 7: I don't know how much I believe that second part,
Speaker 7: because Will is still in the building. Will McLay is,
Speaker 7: But it starts with first week in free agency, when
Speaker 7: those whales start to hit the free agency market. If
Speaker 7: the Cowboys are still sitting on their hands come the
Speaker 7: second wave going into the third wave, I can't believe
Speaker 7: what you told me because I'm not seeing the evidence.
Speaker 8: Then yeah, uh, maya, I'm crazy. But I feel like
Speaker 8: I have heard him say they're all in before, But
Speaker 8: what I have not heard him say is not building
Speaker 8: for the future and worrying about the now right now.
Speaker 8: And to me, I agree with everything that Patrick said
Speaker 8: as far as free agency and making a splash there
Speaker 8: for sure, not just in like having to sign some
Speaker 8: of your own players because you do have very talented
Speaker 8: guys are about to become free agents, but also who
Speaker 8: is out there, Let's make a splash that way, which
Speaker 8: is very uncommon for the Cowboys to do. But also
Speaker 8: I would say quit trying to experiment with things like
Speaker 8: if you're gonna find a linebacker, find a true linebacker,
Speaker 8: find someone that's true to their position. Don't try to
Speaker 8: experiment with maybe Okay, this guy plays tackle, but he
Speaker 8: could be a guard, or find the tackle, find the guard,
Speaker 8: find the linebacker, keep your safety where he needs to be.
Speaker 8: So I would say, to me, maybe that's how I'm
Speaker 8: interpreting what all in would be is like, let's spend
Speaker 8: some money the right way and let's not try to
Speaker 8: get too cute with hybrid positions and let's find true
Speaker 8: players at their position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys are onto something. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a different way. I think he's pushing the chips
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table and gambling on Dak.
Speaker 1: And he's gambling on Mike McCarthy because if if, in
Speaker 1: fact that you know, say that he lets this thing
Speaker 1: ride with Dak, he's and Dak has and I don't
Speaker 1: know if Dak can play any better than he played
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if we might have seen
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's ceiling here. We really might have. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I think with Jerry and if the approach
Speaker 1: I would look at it, is he's basically saying, Okay, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm gambling on you and Dak. I'm gambling on you
Speaker 1: and and if if it if you guys deliver, then
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose this bet. If you guys, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, do we I mean, if they gamble and
Speaker 1: you do well, then the team's going to do well.
Speaker 1: Likely then I'm gonna have to pay the bet, is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna doing. So I think that's where in
Speaker 1: my interpretation I like that the free agency part makes
Speaker 1: the most sense. You know, this is a team that
Speaker 1: really is big on signing their own that that is
Speaker 1: very important to them. They draft very well, they deserve
Speaker 1: to sign their own because they draft as well as
Speaker 1: they do. But if you want to take a different approach,
Speaker 1: he can say, I'm betting, I'm betting. I'm betting on
Speaker 1: Mike and I'm betting on Dak, and I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: this ride. And if it doesn't work and they they
Speaker 1: they bust, then we're gonna have to start over. Then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna bust. I'm gonna bust here. But
Speaker 1: you know, and and let's let's see. You know, if
Speaker 1: with the thing with Dak, he's gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: Dak anyway. If he lets it ride and Dak has
Speaker 1: a great year and get you get to where you
Speaker 1: want to go, you're gonna have to pay him anyway,
Speaker 1: you know right now, you know, maybe you just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. Well, you know, we haven't had
Speaker 1: the playoff success, but I'm gonna I'm gonna gamble here.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna make you guys gamble too. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if Dak would leave.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Dak has a you know, he's about
Speaker 1: to have a new family here, he's got a new home,
Speaker 1: he's got home.
Speaker 4: You know, he's built a lot of things here.
Speaker 1: It'd be hard for him to pick up and go
Speaker 1: to Nashville, Tennessee, or New Orleans, Louisiana or someplace like that.
Speaker 1: So Jerry might be gambling like, Okay, you know you
Speaker 1: won't go anywhere, you know, if if.
Speaker 2: It's bit of a gamble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I think that's the uh, that's the approach.
Speaker 1: I would look at that. He's maybe maybe they're gonna
Speaker 1: maybe they're they're gonna tie Mike and Dack together here,
Speaker 1: and he's gambling that they're going to deliver, and if
Speaker 1: they don't deliver, then they bust.
Speaker 4: Then they have to move on.
Speaker 7: And I'll add one more variation of interpretation here. It's
Speaker 7: the second part of his statement, Like Ambar said, that
Speaker 7: really just jumps out at me the whole and not
Speaker 7: build for the future. What then comes to my mind
Speaker 7: is I realize you've already traded a couple fifth rounders.
Speaker 7: That's how you got Cooks and Gilmour in here. But
Speaker 7: to make that the latter part of that statement true,
Speaker 7: and to add evidence to the former part of the statement,
Speaker 7: are we talking blockbuster trade here?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: That would show that you're you're so all in that
Speaker 7: you're willing to mortgage some draft picks some of your future,
Speaker 7: be it this year, next year, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 7: And obviously we can't say any names, but there are
Speaker 7: some names that come to mind that are around the
Speaker 7: league that are basically trade bait right now. So if
Speaker 7: the Cowboys be it free agency, they go get one
Speaker 7: of these big whales in first wave that come free
Speaker 7: and or they say, you know what, We're going to
Speaker 7: sacrifice the future to get a major whale in right now.
Speaker 7: That's how you make that statement true that Jerry Jones said, right.
Speaker 6: And I think whether he was trying to or not,
Speaker 6: I think that's what was left with fans. I think
Speaker 6: fans probably look at that and they're like, Okay, I
Speaker 6: want to see it first where I believe it. But
Speaker 6: as a part of that, what the expectation he set
Speaker 6: was we're gonna be players, right, And I think that's
Speaker 6: what most fans are looking at when they hear all in.
Speaker 2: They're like, because what do we.
Speaker 6: Hear every year we see where there's this guy available,
Speaker 6: really good player, and inevitably the Philadelphia Eagles are right
Speaker 6: there in the next right, and fans are like, man,
Speaker 6: it seems like they're just and again I'm speaking from
Speaker 6: the fans point of view.
Speaker 2: Fans are just like man.
Speaker 6: They just always seem like they're willing to push the
Speaker 6: chips in and say whether it works or doesn't.
Speaker 2: Because this year you could say it didn't work. They
Speaker 2: did it this year and it didn't work.
Speaker 6: But for whatever reason that they get the credit for,
Speaker 6: they always are all in. And that's what I think
Speaker 6: the expectation is from fans now that Jerry said this
Speaker 6: is okay, show us you're all in when it comes
Speaker 6: time for free agent, when there's that really good player
Speaker 6: that's out there that, by the way, could help your
Speaker 6: running game, could help your defensive rush game, can help
Speaker 6: you up the middle linebackers. When all those kind of
Speaker 6: players are available, Let's see you be player and then
Speaker 6: you show us that you're all in. And I think
Speaker 6: that's the expectation he created. Whether he was trying to
Speaker 6: do that or not, I think that's the expectation he created.
Speaker 7: And now the Rams have shown that you can be
Speaker 7: all in and then after that bubble bursts, you can
Speaker 7: still be contenders as long as you're as long as
Speaker 7: your personnel that you're putting together are the right type
Speaker 7: of personnel. Because this is supposed to be when the
Speaker 7: bubble has burst for the Los Angeles Rams. But here
Speaker 7: we are twenty twenty three and they were right there
Speaker 7: playoff team that could have made some waves. So with
Speaker 7: that being on the table as well, it makes it
Speaker 7: that much more unforgivable to not go all in because
Speaker 7: now we know we've seen McVeigh and that crew over
Speaker 7: there in Los Angeles and be able to say, hey,
Speaker 7: we went all in and we got a Super Bowl
Speaker 7: and we worried about the later later, and when the
Speaker 7: later came.
Speaker 2: Guess what, we were still competitive.
Speaker 4: You're never out of it as long as Will McLay
Speaker 4: can draft, right.
Speaker 2: Because that's how that's how the Rams did it. Think
Speaker 2: about it. This year. They researched because that.
Speaker 6: In Karen Wood, those two guys mat the defensive players too.
Speaker 1: They had they had on four players that were on
Speaker 1: the All Rookie team, you know, and those were all
Speaker 1: those weren't high picks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those were all in the middle of the draft.
Speaker 1: And you know, and yeah, you can absolutely as long
Speaker 1: as you have faith that Will McClay can draft, this
Speaker 1: team will never be out of it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's in an these scouts and stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: they they do a great job at that, you know.
Speaker 4: So I think, to me this offseason, what I would
Speaker 4: like to.
Speaker 1: Try and figure out is why why do you have
Speaker 1: regular season success and not playoff success? And I was
Speaker 1: talking to some people this morning. I wonder if what
Speaker 1: you guys thought about this. I think for fifteen years
Speaker 1: you might not have had the coach that could get
Speaker 1: you through the playoffs. And it's coming to me now
Speaker 1: as I'm watching these I think the guy at the
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a really good coach. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's the guy that can get them to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these coaches that are left, you know,
Speaker 1: and you think, what's the difference. How can you have
Speaker 1: all these all pros and Pro Bowl players and a
Speaker 1: roster that every owner and general manager around the league
Speaker 1: would cove it, you know, and where you know, and
Speaker 1: I look at really the last fifteen years of you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's Jerry Jones blind spot. You know, the coaching hires,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you go with the parcels, but.
Speaker 4: You know, he came in.
Speaker 1: I wish they'd have had Bill ten years younger, you know,
Speaker 1: because I think you would have won a super Bowl
Speaker 1: probably in oh seven with that team, with Bill coaching
Speaker 1: the team.
Speaker 6: To kind of pose a question back to you. Sure,
Speaker 6: if that's the case, let's assume that that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 6: then you look at it Mike McCarthy and say, well,
Speaker 6: he has taken a team to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: It's different here, but it's different here.
Speaker 1: Is what's different to me is that that I look
Speaker 1: at it as maybe that things have passed him by that.
Speaker 4: Way, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I look at sometimes you do get the
Speaker 1: right combination of players. I just I look at at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I look at the just as the Cowboys
Speaker 1: just the last fifteen years, with how good these rosters
Speaker 1: have been and why, you know, And with Mike, I
Speaker 1: feel like there's there's there's something missing there. It's it's
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's him, the staff. There's something
Speaker 1: that's missing that's not allowing you to have playoff success.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking again I'm looking at these teams that
Speaker 1: are in the play and they're advancing the championship games
Speaker 1: and advancing to the super Bowl. And yeah, the Kansasity
Speaker 1: Chiefs have one of the best quarterbacks to ever play
Speaker 1: this game. But they have a coach that got him there.
Speaker 1: You know, they have that type of thing. Shanahan. He's
Speaker 1: that type of guy. He could they could bust on there,
Speaker 1: they could bust on Trey Lance. But somehow take the
Speaker 1: quarterback that's the last pick in the draft. As we're
Speaker 1: all packing our bags up and saying good night, you know,
Speaker 1: they take that guy, go to the super Bowl with
Speaker 1: that guy. There's an element there. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: blaming Mike. I'm just saying overall, maybe Jerry Jones blind
Speaker 1: spot as good as he they are assembling a team.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're blind spot the last fifteen years, ten years
Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett, you know, you know, the last four
Speaker 1: or five years with Mike. There's got to be something
Speaker 1: here that's not translating and allowing them to get.
Speaker 4: To where they need to be.
Speaker 1: The roster's too good not to have success, you know,
Speaker 1: and you just start to you start to you know,
Speaker 1: when you start to analyze things. Yeah, Mike went was
Speaker 1: you know twenty eleven. Okay, it's pretty pretty recent.
Speaker 4: But I just.
Speaker 1: Wonder, is there something that that's holding this team back
Speaker 1: on that side of the ledger? You know that's that's
Speaker 1: not because I do I look at these other teams.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the difference, you know, what's the difference
Speaker 1: with these these coaches and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Oh, no, I hear you and I and this is
Speaker 6: a this is the conversation that we had, Like.
Speaker 4: You guys not talking because you can't say anything.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. I just think I think you
Speaker 2: said it well. And I don't know. I think that's
Speaker 2: the million dollar.
Speaker 6: Question here, and I think nobody seems to understand why
Speaker 6: although they've had one of the best rosters, you would say,
Speaker 6: in the NFL for the last several years, fifteen years,
Speaker 6: get farther than and so I think, Yeah, last week,
Speaker 6: if you remember, I was posing the same question, and
Speaker 6: I was posing the thought, is it possible that maybe
Speaker 6: it's just the pressure of playing here is so much
Speaker 6: greater and maybe they haven't found the elixir for that.
Speaker 2: They haven't figured out.
Speaker 6: How to get the mental aspect of getting over that
Speaker 6: hump and the pressure that comes with it being here.
Speaker 6: Maybe that's a part. Again, I don't know if that
Speaker 6: is right now. I don't think anybody somebody knew they would,
Speaker 6: they would have the answer, But for me, I don't
Speaker 6: think anybody has the answer for me.
Speaker 7: And the reason I paused is because I thought Ambo
Speaker 7: would go in And then I happened to look over
Speaker 7: and Derek was looking at me, and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 7: it's on me. Okay, So for me it goes back
Speaker 7: to and great point, But it goes back to what
Speaker 7: I was saying after immediately after the Green Bay loss,
Speaker 7: as far as the only thing that I could come
Speaker 7: up with isn't intangible. But then that's terrifying because this
Speaker 7: intangible is much more difficult to rank the lane if
Speaker 7: you don't have the right leadership, like the right coaching staff.
Speaker 2: It's the mentality.
Speaker 7: It's the mental toughness to be able to go into
Speaker 7: the postseason and understand the pressure that's on this particular game.
Speaker 7: It's a one it's a one game season every single
Speaker 7: game until let slash unless you get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 7: And I think it's a situation where the Cowboys you
Speaker 7: have uh Brian makes an excellent point. When you have
Speaker 7: this many All pros and this many Pro Bowlers, and
Speaker 7: these guys setting records in the MVP, right, there's no
Speaker 7: reason that wide receivers, no reason you should have fallen
Speaker 7: short of anything but at least the NFC Championship and
Speaker 7: then competed there and giving yourself a chance for the
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. But to fall as flat as they did.
Speaker 7: Everything I saw against the Green Bay Packers, it was
Speaker 7: a mental failing. It was a mental failing. There were
Speaker 7: guys who were just they didn't seem like they were
Speaker 7: the same guy even a week prior when we watched
Speaker 7: them in Washington trying to clinch the division, or when
Speaker 7: we saw them being competitive against the Detroit Lions. It
Speaker 7: was a different team. But it's not a different team
Speaker 7: because it's the same personnel. So the only thing that
Speaker 7: seems to have gone left postseason after postseason after postseason
Speaker 7: is when the personnel sets in the respective years get
Speaker 7: to the postseason, something just clicks in the wrong direction,
Speaker 7: and that is much more difficult.
Speaker 2: I'll say this in terms of.
Speaker 6: This may not be from all of those seasons, but
Speaker 6: I do think we have to at least think about
Speaker 6: the fact that this year's failings could have been as
Speaker 6: simple as what we saw all season.
Speaker 2: If you can't run the ball and if you can't.
Speaker 6: Stop the run, you are not going to be successful
Speaker 6: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And what did we see?
Speaker 6: They could not run the balls consistently and they could
Speaker 6: not consistently stop the run, and in that playoff game,
Speaker 6: Green Bay ran the ball down their throat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then the coach told us before the season
Speaker 1: that he fired the OC because we needed to run
Speaker 1: the ball better, and they didn't address that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, all fair, I guess my points still remained.
Speaker 4: He knew, he knew this was going to be a problem.
Speaker 4: He knew, I give him credit, he knew it was
Speaker 4: going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: But they never did anything to to fix it, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, there was never And maybe that maybe they're
Speaker 1: they're their way of fixing it was we draft Schoonmaker.
Speaker 1: We you know, we we we get we don't practice
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, we keep him fresh, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think it goes back to I just don't
Speaker 1: know how you have these rosters year in and year out.
Speaker 4: And I'll go all the way back to Wade Phillips
Speaker 4: if you want. Yeah, And I and I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to just throw Mike.
Speaker 1: McCarthy under the bus, but Garrett and McCarthy, there's something
Speaker 1: that that the that that it's not allowing them to
Speaker 1: have success in the playoffs. And I think the rosters
Speaker 1: are good enough. I mean, I just I know the
Speaker 1: rosters are good enough, especially when you watch them play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you've even talked about this year though, Brian,
Speaker 6: the fatal flaw with that defense was they didn't have
Speaker 6: linebackers that they that they could rely on. So from
Speaker 6: that standpoint, like the roster did have a major flaw in.
Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, But to me, you're right, you're right
Speaker 1: about that, and they had to kind of mask that area, right.
Speaker 1: But to me, you look at the offensively, could you
Speaker 1: cover with your offense the flaws you had on your defense?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: That I always wonder is like, Okay, if if you
Speaker 1: see one unit struggling, you know, can another unit pick
Speaker 1: it up?
Speaker 4: You know? And I think there's and I include the
Speaker 4: unit of the coaches.
Speaker 1: I include that too, as can you be a difference
Speaker 1: maker in these games? And I just I just think
Speaker 1: through the last I just it's a Jerry Joe's blind
Speaker 1: spot to me that when you look at the coaches
Speaker 1: that have been hired here, that maybe that they don't
Speaker 1: have that what it takes to get you through all this.
Speaker 1: And you talk about the mental toughness or the you know,
Speaker 1: the things that you go through during the season, good
Speaker 1: regular season coaches, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs and things start to fall apart.
Speaker 7: I think it's also true that in the playoffs, and
Speaker 7: I know that you will agree Brian to this point,
Speaker 7: when you get to the postseason, one thing that's going
Speaker 7: to help you get over the edge or get over
Speaker 7: the hump is it's going to take more than just
Speaker 7: having above average guys. You're going to have to have
Speaker 7: some heavy hitters, some superstars. So circling back to Jerry
Speaker 7: Jones saying that they're all in, well, the perfect example
Speaker 7: of what all end looks like is you're the San
Speaker 7: Francisco forty nine ers and you don't need Christian McCaffrey, right,
Speaker 7: but you go into a blockbuster trade for Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 7: and guess why you're going to the Super Bowl again?
Speaker 2: Because of Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 8: That's what I was gonna say. Like, the trade deadline
Speaker 8: came and went, and we were talking about it on here,
Speaker 8: and we all saw areas where the Cowboys did need
Speaker 8: some help and nothing really happened. So I do agree.
Speaker 8: And and I'm sitting here just thinking listening to you guys,
Speaker 8: and you know, it's hard to come up with an
Speaker 8: exact answer because I was here for a good part
Speaker 8: of Jason Garrett's era. Every year seemed like you got
Speaker 8: the same thing type of stuff right, And then with McCarthy,
Speaker 8: the only thing that I would say is like every
Speaker 8: year you feel like, okay, we changed this part this
Speaker 8: coaching staff. When got fired, you got Dan Quinn. Okay,
Speaker 8: now we got some improvement. Okay, So you start adding
Speaker 8: elements where you see areas of improvement. Even this year.
Speaker 8: Now we're talking about Dak Prescott having his best year
Speaker 8: of his career. And then you you once again you think, Okay,
Speaker 8: well we just waste this. It could be, yeah, could be.
Speaker 8: But I don't think anyone has really the answer to
Speaker 8: the solution. But we I think we all agree with
Speaker 8: what you're saying. I mean, when they to the playoffs,
Speaker 8: everything just completely changes.
Speaker 4: I'm not putting it all on Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's something fundamentally you
Speaker 1: ask why twenty five years of not having success. I
Speaker 1: don't think that there's been times where you've had the
Speaker 1: guy in that chair or the guys in those those
Speaker 1: rooms that have been able to push you through.
Speaker 4: I really don't that.
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's the one thing that that one
Speaker 1: common enough. How can these rosters be so good year
Speaker 1: in and year out and then you not being able
Speaker 1: to see this thing through?
Speaker 4: You know that there, you know. And it seems like
Speaker 4: I'm pointing the finger at McCarthy. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, look through the history, look through the
Speaker 1: history of this. When they've had really really good teams
Speaker 1: and you're and you fall short, and you're like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, they're the giant, They're not the giants aren't
Speaker 1: better than them? And seven yea, you know the team,
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen team.
Speaker 2: You know that's fourteen teams.
Speaker 1: The fourteen team. Yeah, you start to go, why are
Speaker 1: they falling short? And I I just to me, it's
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to try and to identify.
Speaker 1: But when you feel like you have a roster that
Speaker 1: has six, seven, eight Pro Bowl players every year and
Speaker 1: a quarterback that played at a pro at an MVP level,
Speaker 1: there's something not right there. There's something not And as
Speaker 1: much as they helped Doc during the regular season, there
Speaker 1: was some there was a disconnect and that in that
Speaker 1: playoff game, and and that's that's that's a shame, that's.
Speaker 7: A I feel like it's time to go into overkill
Speaker 7: mode personnel wise, because it's something that Ambar said sparked
Speaker 7: the thought in my head. They they see a situation
Speaker 7: that they might need help in, and maybe they address it.
Speaker 7: But what about what's to be said for upgrade versus
Speaker 7: simply waiting for an issue to become an issue. Why
Speaker 7: not just upgrade for the sake of upgrading right at
Speaker 7: any particular position. Example, if you have an opportunity to
Speaker 7: go right, example being you know what Ceedee Lamb is, now,
Speaker 7: you know what Brandon Cooks can be offense, et cetera,
Speaker 7: et cetera. But there's a guy who's a brother of
Speaker 7: a defensive guy here, for example, without me saying the name,
Speaker 7: that would be like an overkill mode, right, Howie Roseman,
Speaker 7: he goes into overkill mode. Shanahan and those guys out
Speaker 7: there at Lynch they going to overkill mode.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys.
Speaker 7: For as great as they do at drafting, developing, and
Speaker 7: then paying some of those guys that they've developed, it
Speaker 7: keeps popping in my head that when you get to
Speaker 7: the postseason, who is the opposing team absolutely terrified? Up Right,
Speaker 7: teams are terrified of Deebo Samuel, They're terrified of Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 7: maybe not Brock Purdy, but they're terrified of George Kittle.
Speaker 7: Then you flip it to the defensive side of the ball. Now,
Speaker 7: Cowboys do have some terrifying guys. Michael Paris as the
Speaker 7: Marcus Lawrence would be like your Nick Bosa and guys
Speaker 7: like that. But from an offensive standpoint, and then maybe
Speaker 7: it's certain spots linebacker for example.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 7: Right, you don't have a Fred one teams, you gotta
Speaker 7: have waves of those teams are terrified going to overkill.
Speaker 7: If you're all in and you are going to let
Speaker 7: McCarthy coach this year out and you are if you're
Speaker 7: in fact going to let Dak Prescott into a contract year, Okay,
Speaker 7: this is a perfect time to say, overkill mode, we're
Speaker 7: going to get as many terrifying guys.
Speaker 6: But here's the argument that goes against that. They got
Speaker 6: nine guys going to the Pro Bowl. They got guys,
Speaker 6: So back to that point.
Speaker 2: So the guys and then there's that guy.
Speaker 6: No, I get that, but you got in den Bland,
Speaker 6: a guy that teams Legitimately, we're concerned about what kind
Speaker 6: of balls were going this way. Now, there was some
Speaker 6: ways to take advantage of him. We saw that, right,
Speaker 6: but you had to be very careful when you came
Speaker 6: in to the game. You have to be thoughtful about
Speaker 6: where he is and what kind of throw a you're
Speaker 6: going to make to his side of the field, because
Speaker 6: he could turn into six points the other way. Right,
Speaker 6: there are guys like that. They have players. I don't
Speaker 6: think that that's necessarily it. Now you can make an argument,
Speaker 6: are those players showing up in the playoff games at
Speaker 6: maybe a whole different conversation, and it may be a
Speaker 6: fair conversation. But I think they got guys, and I
Speaker 6: think they got guys other teams. Legitimately we have to
Speaker 6: game plan around. I just don't know if those guys
Speaker 6: have shown up in the way we expect them to
Speaker 6: in the biggest moments.
Speaker 7: And that goes to the guy. The difference between being
Speaker 7: a guy. Right, Tony Pollard is a guy. Right, Tony
Speaker 7: Pollard can be productive, he can be effective, but he's
Speaker 7: not Christian McCaffrey. Right, you talk about a guy who's
Speaker 7: I don't know if we can say this, but he's
Speaker 7: pending free agency.
Speaker 2: So let me put it this way, barring a new
Speaker 2: deal being.
Speaker 7: Agreed upon, a guy like Derrick Henry, for example, we'll
Speaker 7: get into the minute.
Speaker 6: By the way, just so you know, this is just friends.
Speaker 6: We're talking about this stuff. There is no relation between
Speaker 6: us and what's happening on the football side the building.
Speaker 7: There you go, So Derrick Henry being a prime example
Speaker 7: of being a prime example of appreciate you possibly going
Speaker 7: into overkill mode saying, Okay, I know Tony poll is
Speaker 7: going in the free agency, but as opposed to saying, well,
Speaker 7: we'll bring Tony Pollard and try to run this back
Speaker 7: with him as RB one, We're going to try to
Speaker 7: upgrade and going to overkill. And I'm fine with the
Speaker 7: cornerbacks if you keep Stepan around and Trevon Dix is
Speaker 7: coming back and you got to Ron Bland, that true
Speaker 7: can be quite nasty. But then if you look at
Speaker 7: the the linebacker position, you want more from de Mount Clark.
Speaker 7: Overshown is a rookie who's coming off of a redshirt
Speaker 7: season in a town acol. He's going to require some time.
Speaker 7: We've seen that Marquise Bell. Although very athletic, that flex
Speaker 7: can penalize you at times because you've got a guard
Speaker 7: getting to the second level and now he washes you out.
Speaker 2: So you need a linebacker.
Speaker 7: And free agency big name well first Bobby Wagner when
Speaker 7: he came available, for example. That's what I mean going
Speaker 7: into overkill mode. This team has a lot of very
Speaker 7: very good players, and they have a few players that
Speaker 7: can terrify the opposing team, but why not get more
Speaker 7: players that can tell?
Speaker 2: And there is no problem with that.
Speaker 6: I do think one thing that jumped out to me
Speaker 6: is I think you look at the linebacker position and
Speaker 6: talk about Overshown and you think there's going to be
Speaker 6: something there. You think you got a player there. When
Speaker 6: you look at Mazi, you say you had a first
Speaker 6: round of next year, you expect him to maybe make
Speaker 6: a leap this next year. Those are the situations where
Speaker 6: in the past, I think the Cowboys sit pad and say,
Speaker 6: we got a guy.
Speaker 4: We'll let them develop.
Speaker 1: We don't want to we don't want to stop his right,
Speaker 1: we don't want to stop his progress.
Speaker 6: Those are the places where I'm like, no, this offseason,
Speaker 6: go look on the free agent market. See who is
Speaker 6: the baddest defensive tackle out I get that guy. I
Speaker 6: don't care who you got on your roster. Go get
Speaker 6: that guy. Who's the best linebacker you got out there?
Speaker 6: Go get that guy because you can't have too many
Speaker 6: of them. Go get that guy and get the players who.
Speaker 2: Actually can make a difference for this time.
Speaker 1: I think if I was Mike McCarthy, I would be
Speaker 1: standing at Will mcclay's door every single day like, what
Speaker 1: about this guy?
Speaker 4: What about this guy?
Speaker 1: If my job was on the line, you're going to
Speaker 1: try I'm going to wear you out every day about players.
Speaker 1: I'm going to wear you out. Okay, where do we
Speaker 1: got this guy's in the draft boards? What's our plan
Speaker 1: to go get this guy? I really like Laporta the
Speaker 1: tight end, Like, let's make this happen. Guys, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I like Laporte. You know, if I'm Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: and I really like a player.
Speaker 4: I am, I am.
Speaker 1: They're going to be sick of me, you know, walking
Speaker 1: in there and talking about these players you are.
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Speaker 2: all right, So Jerry also had to help you here. No,
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Speaker 6: Jerry also had a comment about Mike McCarthy and bringing
Speaker 6: him back.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to that. That's clip number one.
Speaker 3: Chris, uh and understand disruption and uh uh. I think
Speaker 3: that the nature of what we do with our roster decisions,
Speaker 3: the fact that we're here looking at help, if you will,
Speaker 3: for this coming here here at the senior bow, the
Speaker 3: fact that we have free agency opportunities, the fact that
Speaker 3: we've got some really of substantive decisions to make own
Speaker 3: our roster as it pertains to particularly influenced by the
Speaker 3: salary cap.
Speaker 4: That's enough disruption for me.
Speaker 3: And five we get through all of those decisions, there
Speaker 3: will be a lot of disruption, all right.
Speaker 6: That was an interesting comment about disruption, mainly about them
Speaker 6: figuring out how they're going to change things up.
Speaker 2: I think that was the crux of what he was saying.
Speaker 6: The interesting part about that is Mike McCarthy's back, presumably
Speaker 6: dak is back. Yeah, as it looks right now, there's
Speaker 6: still a pretty good chance that Dan Quinn is back.
Speaker 6: So if all those three three things stay the same,
Speaker 6: and again Quinn's still up for jobs that have not
Speaker 6: been filled, so there's a possibility he's gone. But assuming
Speaker 6: all those three things stay the same, what would you
Speaker 6: think is the most important things the thing that Dallas
Speaker 6: needs to address this offseason to create the greatest disruption
Speaker 6: and the greatest difference maker in what they saw what
Speaker 6: we saw this year into what would be next year.
Speaker 1: Briani and go first, you know, we I think we
Speaker 1: really in the thirty five minutes we talked before, we
Speaker 1: kind of a trust that, you know, when you start
Speaker 1: to look at the rosters and things like that.
Speaker 4: They need to get back to that hitting on those
Speaker 4: two or three draft the kids that they get on
Speaker 4: the draft.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 6: I'm what I'm asking more is, specifically, what is that
Speaker 6: one area that if you couldn't address all the other ones,
Speaker 6: this is the area that.
Speaker 2: Makes the biggest difference. Is it defensive tackle? Is it line?
Speaker 4: I see?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got they've got to They've got to draft
Speaker 1: a center. They if they want to run the football,
Speaker 1: they've got to find a way to get better at center.
Speaker 1: And they've got to and I'm sorry I misunderstood your question.
Speaker 4: That, but yeah, they have to.
Speaker 1: They have to find a way to get the center,
Speaker 1: and they got to get the right tackle healthy again.
Speaker 1: And then they've got to figure out scoon Maker and
Speaker 1: those guys have got to have a really good offseason
Speaker 1: within the weight room and things. But the most important
Speaker 1: thing for them is if they really really really want
Speaker 1: to run the football, they got to address their center.
Speaker 7: I agree, you have to address center. I'm going to
Speaker 7: keep it to the offensive line, because we've already talked
Speaker 7: about linebackers. I think that's glaringly obvious. What's your left
Speaker 7: tackle situation? Because Tyron Smith he's going into unrestricted free agency,
Speaker 7: assuming that no deal lands before the league year opens
Speaker 7: in mid March, and even if you choose to bring
Speaker 7: him back, maybe like on a one year deal, maybe
Speaker 7: two year deal with a one year opt out, you
Speaker 7: still need to figure out the present and future at
Speaker 7: that position. We know they're not going to move Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: That ship has definitely sailed. So what do you got.
Speaker 7: You got Matt will Let's go. You can only hope
Speaker 7: that he remains durable, but he's now had sublizations on
Speaker 7: both shoulders. You got Austin Richards mid round pick from
Speaker 7: last season, didn't develop well enough to get playing time
Speaker 7: this past year despite your injury issues at left tackle.
Speaker 7: So for me, you got to figure out the left
Speaker 7: tackle situation. And I think that I agree with Brian
Speaker 7: completely in that you need to look at potentially going
Speaker 7: center at least entertaining center as one of your top picks.
Speaker 7: But that also goes right up against you might need
Speaker 7: to consider your left tackle situation one of your top
Speaker 7: picks as well.
Speaker 4: Good point.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, exactly agree with all that. And when we
Speaker 8: were having the conversation earlier about making those tough decisions,
Speaker 8: I immediately thought about, Okay, you guys are the same
Speaker 8: people that were saying you would want to have Tyron
Speaker 8: Smith back on the team, which is which is tough
Speaker 8: because again, once you present your one, we know it's good. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: but it's one of those things that Okay, we've seen
Speaker 8: it happen in the past, and then I'm fast forward
Speaker 8: to that moment because we history has shown that's gonna
Speaker 8: happen at some point or another. And then we're sitting
Speaker 8: here talking about it and being like, man, here we
Speaker 8: go again. Who's gonna be there to start the game?
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah, is it gonna play not play? And
Speaker 8: then those are situations that you already know, So how
Speaker 8: are you preparing yourself? This is not it didn't happen
Speaker 8: just it last year or the year before. This has
Speaker 8: been going on for years. So it's those type of things,
Speaker 8: and it this having these conversations and I know we're
Speaker 8: this is part of the job, and we're gonna have
Speaker 8: these conversations and we're gonna keep going. But it's so
Speaker 8: frustrating because nothing we say matters, really nothing we say matters,
Speaker 8: nothing we say, we cannot predict the future. And what
Speaker 8: sucks most is even having to go through the whole season.
Speaker 8: We won't have the answer until we get to the
Speaker 8: playoffs again and really see if this changes worked or not.
Speaker 8: But totally agree with just being able to run the ball.
Speaker 8: I think those are one of my top priorities for
Speaker 8: this year as well. And we've talked about it already. Penalties,
Speaker 8: just addressing the issue. Those things have hurt you so
Speaker 8: much throughout the season. It's been an ongoing issue that
Speaker 8: I think that they need to really really figure out
Speaker 8: how to really address that.
Speaker 1: When they've drafted offensive lineman the first round, they've been
Speaker 1: plug and play and they've had success, They've had really
Speaker 1: good drafts. When they draft guys like that, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they put them in and then now
Speaker 1: everything kind of follows behind that, they figure everything else
Speaker 1: behind that. So drafting off of lineman, whether it's a
Speaker 1: tackle a center, that to me is I have no
Speaker 1: problem with either one of those.
Speaker 6: Ill thre he one more curveball For me, it's linebacker
Speaker 6: because I look at three of the four teams that
Speaker 6: were playing last weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh sure have studs at linebacker.
Speaker 6: Some of them have two, not just one, they got two,
Speaker 6: Like San Francisco has two, Baltimore has two.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: I look at that, and I say, if you talk
Speaker 6: about this defense, there's a lot of areas where you're like, man,
Speaker 6: they are really strong. They got some really good players
Speaker 6: at a lot of different positions. My thought is, get
Speaker 6: yourself a Fred Warner. I know that's easier said than done,
Speaker 6: but get yourself that kind of linebacker that changes everything
Speaker 6: on this defense. In my opinion, you need a playmaking
Speaker 6: type linebacker that is just as good if you decide
Speaker 6: to send him at the quarterback as he is out
Speaker 6: in pass coverage, as he is dicing through the defense
Speaker 6: to make a tackle behind the line of scrimmage. You
Speaker 6: need that kind of guy, and I think that would
Speaker 6: make a bigger impact than anything else you could.
Speaker 2: Do right now on this team.
Speaker 4: I think you're going to have to spend money on that.
Speaker 4: Just looking at the college kids. Yeah, look at the
Speaker 4: college kids.
Speaker 1: Though, the guys like Edrian Cooper from Texas A and
Speaker 1: M It would be a really, really good option.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: This group is a good I say a good group.
Speaker 1: But what happens is there's guys that are banged up.
Speaker 1: I mean banged up like Shawn Lee banged up, and
Speaker 1: Layton Vandrush banged up. You know, one of the best,
Speaker 1: one of the best players at linebackers, a kid named
Speaker 1: Peyton Wilson from North Carolina State. Uh, double digit surgeries,
Speaker 1: but one of the best linebackers.
Speaker 4: In the country.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm staying away from that.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I guess Jeremiah Trotter, Now, yeah, Jeremiah Trotter, love him.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, spent six foot he's two hundred thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: I think if Dallas is going to do damage, going
Speaker 1: all in, spend your money on a veteran linebacker. Go
Speaker 1: out and get a veteran linebacker. And the list is
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty substantial one.
Speaker 4: I think that can help you.
Speaker 6: All Right, real quick, before we end the show, let's
Speaker 6: get to this final cut that we had. This one
Speaker 6: was about Dax's improvement from with Mike McCarthy and his offense.
Speaker 2: That's cut number two. Let's check it out.
Speaker 3: You certainly have made improvement in areas I think Dak,
Speaker 3: for instance, writa at a key spot there with Dak,
Speaker 3: Dak has improved since Mike has been here, and I
Speaker 3: think we can look forward to that improvement. There's more
Speaker 3: there to get in terms of Dak's improvement quote Mike,
Speaker 3: and the evidence points to that. And so with more
Speaker 3: to get there, more pluses own Dak. That impacts a
Speaker 3: lot of other things we're doing right now with our
Speaker 3: decisions we're making sort of all made sense to.
Speaker 2: Have him back there.
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones is talking about Mike McCarthy and him working
Speaker 6: with Dak. I think we all agree that Dak had
Speaker 6: one of his best seasons and you've got to get
Speaker 6: some credit.
Speaker 4: To Mike absolutely for that. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: My question is specifically, what are the areas where you
Speaker 6: think that he made the difference, Like, what were the
Speaker 6: areas that in Dak's game where you saw a tangible
Speaker 6: difference this year over last year or other years.
Speaker 7: I'm going to say timing in chemistry with the receivers.
Speaker 7: Dak talked a lot about in the training camp and
Speaker 7: over the course of the season, the timing of the
Speaker 7: footwork and versus the release right point for the ball
Speaker 7: so I think that McCarthy's offense served Dak and CD
Speaker 7: Lamb very well in that capacity as far as making
Speaker 7: sure that in Dak's mind and it became muscle memory,
Speaker 7: you know, one two ball goes goes to this spot,
Speaker 7: receiver needs to be at this spot. So McCarthy did
Speaker 7: very well in that capacity, and I think that that's
Speaker 7: something that Dak Prescott and this offense can really build on.
Speaker 2: And that's that's one of those.
Speaker 7: Things where it's like, it's difficult because the fans don't
Speaker 7: want to hear about praise right now, and that's fair.
Speaker 2: I get it one hundred percent. But two things can
Speaker 2: be true.
Speaker 7: So you can say that it was a failure on
Speaker 7: all levels against the Packers, because it was. It's also
Speaker 7: true that if we're talking regular season, Mike McCarthy first
Speaker 7: year back as a play after several years off from
Speaker 7: doing so, he gets Dak Prescott in the MVP conversation
Speaker 7: make ceedee Lama NFL his historic wide receiver Jake Ferguson
Speaker 7: has a breakout season. So to Jerry's point, there is
Speaker 7: something still to be built there. It just needs to
Speaker 7: translate over to the postseason. So unfortunately, like you said,
Speaker 7: like we said on previous shows, now we're going into
Speaker 7: a season where it doesn't matter how many wins they
Speaker 7: get in twenty twenty four. They could be a thirteen
Speaker 7: and fourteen, fourteen and three team, and all we're going
Speaker 7: to sit here and wonder is what happens in January.
Speaker 1: He schemed more routes, he gave more open throws and
Speaker 1: wop seed around him.
Speaker 4: He did. He did a lot more year the first
Speaker 4: five weeks of this season, though one very good on offense.
Speaker 1: He listened, They made some changes, but he gave Dak
Speaker 1: more open throws than what we've seen in the past.
Speaker 2: Also some pre snap, a lot more pre snap.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he looked up just a lot more comfortable in general.
Speaker 8: Where you talked about muscle memory, I think that did
Speaker 8: kick in this year for him, where you don't see
Speaker 8: him having to really think about it that much or
Speaker 8: look around, or then all of a sudden he's just
Speaker 8: throwing the ball to get rid of it. I think
Speaker 8: his throws were a lot more precise because he was
Speaker 8: a lot more in sync with the receiver, especially Ceedee
Speaker 8: Lamb as a whole, and I think he mentally was
Speaker 8: just at a good spot physically too, because even last year,
Speaker 8: coming with the injury that he had or whatever, I
Speaker 8: think he still had that in his And that's just
Speaker 8: me assuming just mentally there he just didn't seem as comfortable.
Speaker 8: But this year he does. And I do think Dak
Speaker 8: can be the quarterback that takes this team to a
Speaker 8: super Bowl. And I know that people when I talk
Speaker 8: about how bad he played in this game, and he
Speaker 8: played really really bad against the Packers, but at the
Speaker 8: same time, it was collectively bad. It was everybody. It
Speaker 8: was not just on Dak. So I've seen Dak have
Speaker 8: really really great games. I've seen Dak kind of for
Speaker 8: the first time. I feel like in his career there
Speaker 8: were times where he carried the team and that's something
Speaker 8: new that I had not seen before from Dak in
Speaker 8: his game as the.
Speaker 4: Core it back.
Speaker 8: So I think, uh, he can be that guy. Do
Speaker 8: you just need a You got a lot of other things.
Speaker 7: Resurgence, mobility as well in this first year. Yeah, it
Speaker 7: doesn't play caller, so finally that that became a thing
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you guys. Jonas back next week, maybe
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Dak. We'll see what others.
Speaker 6: Brian will not be here with us, as we found out,
Speaker 6: but maybe we can get you to call in for
Speaker 6: a quick segment.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about it.
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