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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 2: We were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick

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Speaker 2: Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, January thirty, first, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 6: Episode number one ten. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: The Break. We are live mass WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 6: the Star and we got a lot of things we're

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Speaker 6: going to get into today. We got to talk about

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Speaker 6: some comments from Jerry Jones, he is at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 6: had some interesting things to say about the team, about

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy, about Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into all that.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk a little bit about some some other coaches,

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Speaker 6: some guys that are going to Philadelphia, UH, their offensive

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Speaker 6: and defensive coordinators and maybe what we think about that

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Speaker 6: and how that could affect.

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Speaker 2: The NFC East UH. And then, as I promised last.

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Speaker 6: Week, we'll hopefully get into some conversation on Dak Prescott

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Speaker 6: and start kind of dissecting this thing a little bit. Patrick,

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Speaker 6: you wrote an interesting article there about the quarterbacks, so

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Speaker 6: we'll get into some of that talk. If we don't

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Speaker 6: get to all of that, then we certainly have next week.

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Speaker 6: We always have next week, and we can bring that

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Speaker 6: stuff back up next week.

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Speaker 1: I'll be at the super Bowl, so you guys have

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Speaker 1: that next week. Yeah, it's radio row next week.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, Yeah, you didn't find it. You didn't

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Speaker 2: find a flight for the boy nice to come along.

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Speaker 2: You could have just nice smuggled me in.

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Speaker 4: Now I'll tell you what. Then the radio road could

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Speaker 4: be fun, yeah, and it.

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Speaker 1: Could also be just just aggravating. Yeah, you know, it

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Speaker 1: could be very You know, there's people that you could

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Speaker 1: talk to, and then there's other people that you kind

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Speaker 1: of get.

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Speaker 4: They get thrown on.

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Speaker 1: You and now you're like who, And now you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to make good radio out of this.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, that's actually the fun of radio road though

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Speaker 6: from a listener standpointcause you never know who's going to

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Speaker 6: pop up, and you never know how the hosts are

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Speaker 6: going to react to because you can.

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Speaker 2: Tell when the hosts don't really know the person.

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Speaker 1: The questions are very strange. The one interview we did

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Speaker 1: last year that was like it was crazy, was we

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Speaker 1: interviewed Christian McCaffrey's mom, and that's after the whole thing

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Speaker 1: that we went down, our show went down talking about

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Speaker 1: him and you know, and how you kind of take

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Speaker 1: care of him, and she called us some choice words

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Speaker 1: for what we did. And it started off like we

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Speaker 1: were trying to be apologetic and nice and all that,

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Speaker 1: and then she started turning to kind of mean and

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Speaker 1: ugly and we went we started being mean and ugly

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Speaker 1: back to her. It was interesting, right, It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes you get those kind and another times shent no,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. But I don't blame her.

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Speaker 2: I don't need it. I don't blame her.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame her for being for being his defensive

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Speaker 1: of her son as she was. But she she came

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Speaker 1: after Gavin Dawson and I and we were like, yes ma'am, Yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: and then it turned into listen here, you b word.

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Speaker 4: So that's the beauty of Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: You Sometimes you have these marvelous interviews and the other

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Speaker 1: times you get attacked and then uh, but yeah, to

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Speaker 1: be a part of that, especially with Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you guys have fun when you hadding out Monday.

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Speaker 4: Uh we leave Monday after our show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well you have a good time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: bring back some stories. I'm sure you'll have a few

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Speaker 2: and throw at us a few, especially from Vegas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, See what's what's appropriate for the air

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Speaker 6: and what's that.

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Speaker 1: We'll seeing with this that it's not til it's not good.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump in though.

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Speaker 6: Jerry Jones yesterday at the Senior Bowl had an opportunity

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Speaker 6: to meet up with some of the media. Our own

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Speaker 6: Nick Harris was there as well.

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Speaker 4: Did a great job covering that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good stuff.

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Speaker 6: Got some good, good questions and I thought some very

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Speaker 6: I thought was most interesting to me, which I think

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Speaker 6: he can go a lot of different ways. And that's

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Speaker 6: the way that I'll take it from the standpoint of

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Speaker 6: getting your feedback. But let's start first, Chris, you have

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Speaker 6: a cut number three ready for us. I'd like to

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Speaker 6: talk about this and this is the one where uh.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to win awards.

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Speaker 2: We can't do anything, man, we can do nothing around.

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Speaker 4: Here, Come on abarts once a week show what do

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Speaker 4: you want to start?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 6: This one was particular to talking about their approach for

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, and he used those two words that

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Speaker 6: I don't think we've heard around here a lot.

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Speaker 4: All in.

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Speaker 2: Uh let's hear that clip and we're all you did?

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Speaker 2: I knew I should have.

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Speaker 6: Just could be down and just like read it myself

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Speaker 6: like I normally do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go here, were.

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Speaker 3: Getting ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address.

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Speaker 3: We'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in.

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Speaker 3: That's the end of this year. So when you say,

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Speaker 3: is there any thought I think we'll strainer, we'll push

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Speaker 3: the hell out of it. Is that doing something different

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Speaker 3: than you in the past in that respect, Well, it

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Speaker 3: will be, uh yeah, and it will be going all

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Speaker 2: We'll be going all in.

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Speaker 3: We've seen some things out of some of the players

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Speaker 3: that we want to be all in on. And yes,

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Speaker 3: I would say that you will see us this coming

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Speaker 3: year not building for the future. It's the best way

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Speaker 3: I don't say it. And that ought to answer a

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Speaker 6: So I think the interesting part to me there was

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Speaker 6: all in com mean a lot of different things to

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Speaker 6: here's what I would like to know for each of you,

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Speaker 6: what would be all into you? Because I do think

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Speaker 6: that's a different opinion for all of us of what

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Speaker 6: all in looks like with this team, with this current roster,

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Speaker 6: of what you have and the coaches that you have.

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Speaker 6: What does all in look like as you enter training

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Speaker 2: Let's start first of you, Pat.

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Speaker 7: Well, first, it's going to have to start with free agency. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: this is a team that last year's draft notwithstanding, and

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Speaker 7: we really grate the draft. But it's not looking and promising.

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Speaker 7: But they normally draft very well, free agency has been

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Speaker 7: because they've often been kind of tight on the purse

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Speaker 7: strings as far as not playing in the first week

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Speaker 7: it starts there. If you want to prove that you're

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Speaker 7: all in, make a splash in the first week of

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Speaker 7: free agency. That's gonna be paramount to having the fans

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Speaker 7: buy into that particular line of thinking, because if this

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Speaker 7: is another off season where you know, you say you're

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Speaker 7: all in, and to be fair, this is not something

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Speaker 7: I've heard Jerry say in quite a while. And I

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Speaker 7: mean I'm talking since like the nineties. I mean, he's

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Speaker 7: always been kind of walking the line. But if he's

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Speaker 7: I don't know how much I believe that second part,

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Speaker 7: because Will is still in the building. Will McLay is,

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Speaker 7: But it starts with first week in free agency, when

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Speaker 7: those whales start to hit the free agency market. If

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys are still sitting on their hands come the

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Speaker 7: second wave going into the third wave, I can't believe

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Speaker 7: what you told me because I'm not seeing the evidence.

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Speaker 8: Then yeah, uh, maya, I'm crazy. But I feel like

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Speaker 8: I have heard him say they're all in before, But

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Speaker 8: what I have not heard him say is not building

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Speaker 8: for the future and worrying about the now right now.

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Speaker 8: And to me, I agree with everything that Patrick said

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Speaker 8: as far as free agency and making a splash there

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Speaker 8: for sure, not just in like having to sign some

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Speaker 8: of your own players because you do have very talented

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Speaker 8: guys are about to become free agents, but also who

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Speaker 8: is out there, Let's make a splash that way, which

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Speaker 8: is very uncommon for the Cowboys to do. But also

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Speaker 8: I would say quit trying to experiment with things like

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Speaker 8: if you're gonna find a linebacker, find a true linebacker,

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Speaker 8: find someone that's true to their position. Don't try to

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Speaker 8: experiment with maybe Okay, this guy plays tackle, but he

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Speaker 8: find the linebacker, keep your safety where he needs to be.

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Speaker 8: So I would say, to me, maybe that's how I'm

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Speaker 8: interpreting what all in would be is like, let's spend

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Speaker 8: some money the right way and let's not try to

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Speaker 8: get too cute with hybrid positions and let's find true

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys are onto something. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take a different way. I think he's pushing the chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the table and gambling on Dak.

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Speaker 1: And he's gambling on Mike McCarthy because if if, in

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, say that he lets this thing

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Speaker 1: ride with Dak, he's and Dak has and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Dak can play any better than he played

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if we might have seen

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's ceiling here. We really might have. But the

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Speaker 1: thing that I think with Jerry and if the approach

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Speaker 1: I would look at it, is he's basically saying, Okay, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I'm gambling on you and Dak. I'm gambling on you

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Speaker 1: and and if if it if you guys deliver, then

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Speaker 1: I'm going to lose this bet. If you guys, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, do we I mean, if they gamble and

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Speaker 1: you do well, then the team's going to do well.

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Speaker 1: Likely then I'm gonna have to pay the bet, is

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna doing. So I think that's where in

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Speaker 1: my interpretation I like that the free agency part makes

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Speaker 1: the most sense. You know, this is a team that

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Speaker 1: really is big on signing their own that that is

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Speaker 1: very important to them. They draft very well, they deserve

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Speaker 1: to sign their own because they draft as well as

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Speaker 1: he can say, I'm betting, I'm betting. I'm betting on

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Speaker 1: Mike and I'm betting on Dak, and I'm gonna let

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Speaker 7: That would show that you're you're so all in that

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Speaker 7: That's how you make that statement true that Jerry Jones said, right.

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Speaker 6: Hear every year we see where there's this guy available,

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Speaker 6: They just always seem like they're willing to push the

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Speaker 6: But for whatever reason that they get the credit for,

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Speaker 7: And now the Rams have shown that you can be

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Speaker 2: Guess what, we were still competitive.

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Speaker 4: You're never out of it as long as Will McLay

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Speaker 2: Because that's how that's how the Rams did it. Think

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Speaker 1: They had they had on four players that were on

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Speaker 4: You know, he came in.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking again I'm looking at these teams that

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Speaker 1: The roster's too good not to have success, you know,

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Speaker 6: Oh, no, I hear you and I and this is

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Speaker 6: Question here, and I think nobody seems to understand why

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Speaker 7: And the reason I paused is because I thought Ambo

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Speaker 7: have uh Brian makes an excellent point. When you have

439
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Speaker 7: this many All pros and this many Pro Bowlers, and

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Speaker 7: these guys setting records in the MVP, right, there's no

441
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Speaker 7: reason that wide receivers, no reason you should have fallen

442
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Speaker 7: short of anything but at least the NFC Championship and

443
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Speaker 7: then competed there and giving yourself a chance for the

444
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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. But to fall as flat as they did.

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Speaker 7: Everything I saw against the Green Bay Packers, it was

446
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Speaker 7: a mental failing. It was a mental failing. There were

447
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Speaker 7: guys who were just they didn't seem like they were

448
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Speaker 7: the same guy even a week prior when we watched

449
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Speaker 7: them in Washington trying to clinch the division, or when

450
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Speaker 7: we saw them being competitive against the Detroit Lions. It

451
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Speaker 7: was a different team. But it's not a different team

452
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Speaker 7: because it's the same personnel. So the only thing that

453
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Speaker 7: seems to have gone left postseason after postseason after postseason

454
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Speaker 7: is when the personnel sets in the respective years get

455
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Speaker 7: to the postseason, something just clicks in the wrong direction,

456
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Speaker 7: and that is much more difficult.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this in terms of.

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Speaker 6: This may not be from all of those seasons, but

459
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Speaker 6: I do think we have to at least think about

460
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Speaker 6: the fact that this year's failings could have been as

461
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Speaker 6: simple as what we saw all season.

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Speaker 2: If you can't run the ball and if you can't.

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Speaker 6: Stop the run, you are not going to be successful

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And what did we see?

466
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Speaker 6: They could not run the balls consistently and they could

467
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Speaker 6: not consistently stop the run, and in that playoff game,

468
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Speaker 6: Green Bay ran the ball down their throat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then the coach told us before the season

470
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Speaker 1: that he fired the OC because we needed to run

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Speaker 1: the ball better, and they didn't address that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No, all fair, I guess my points still remained.

474
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Speaker 4: He knew, he knew this was going to be a problem.

475
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Speaker 4: He knew, I give him credit, he knew it was

476
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Speaker 4: going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: But they never did anything to to fix it, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was never And maybe that maybe they're

479
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Speaker 1: they're their way of fixing it was we draft Schoonmaker.

480
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Speaker 1: We you know, we we we get we don't practice

481
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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, we keep him fresh, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just think it goes back to I just don't

483
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Speaker 1: know how you have these rosters year in and year out.

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Speaker 4: And I'll go all the way back to Wade Phillips

485
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Speaker 4: if you want. Yeah, And I and I'm not trying

486
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Speaker 4: to just throw Mike.

487
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Speaker 1: McCarthy under the bus, but Garrett and McCarthy, there's something

488
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Speaker 1: that that the that that it's not allowing them to

489
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Speaker 1: have success in the playoffs. And I think the rosters

490
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Speaker 1: are good enough. I mean, I just I know the

491
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Speaker 1: rosters are good enough, especially when you watch them play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you've even talked about this year though, Brian,

493
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Speaker 6: the fatal flaw with that defense was they didn't have

494
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Speaker 6: linebackers that they that they could rely on. So from

495
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Speaker 6: that standpoint, like the roster did have a major flaw in.

496
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Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, But to me, you're right, you're right

497
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Speaker 1: about that, and they had to kind of mask that area, right.

498
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Speaker 1: But to me, you look at the offensively, could you

499
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Speaker 1: cover with your offense the flaws you had on your defense?

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Speaker 3: You know?

501
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Speaker 4: And that's that's the thing.

502
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Speaker 1: That I always wonder is like, Okay, if if you

503
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Speaker 1: see one unit struggling, you know, can another unit pick

504
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Speaker 1: it up?

505
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Speaker 4: You know? And I think there's and I include the

506
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Speaker 4: unit of the coaches.

507
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Speaker 1: I include that too, as can you be a difference

508
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Speaker 1: maker in these games? And I just I just think

509
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Speaker 1: through the last I just it's a Jerry Joe's blind

510
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Speaker 1: spot to me that when you look at the coaches

511
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Speaker 1: that have been hired here, that maybe that they don't

512
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Speaker 1: have that what it takes to get you through all this.

513
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Speaker 1: And you talk about the mental toughness or the you know,

514
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Speaker 1: the things that you go through during the season, good

515
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Speaker 1: regular season coaches, and then all of a sudden you

516
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Speaker 1: get in the playoffs and things start to fall apart.

517
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Speaker 7: I think it's also true that in the playoffs, and

518
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Speaker 7: I know that you will agree Brian to this point,

519
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Speaker 7: when you get to the postseason, one thing that's going

520
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Speaker 7: to help you get over the edge or get over

521
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Speaker 7: the hump is it's going to take more than just

522
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Speaker 7: having above average guys. You're going to have to have

523
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Speaker 7: some heavy hitters, some superstars. So circling back to Jerry

524
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Speaker 7: Jones saying that they're all in, well, the perfect example

525
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Speaker 7: of what all end looks like is you're the San

526
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Speaker 7: Francisco forty nine ers and you don't need Christian McCaffrey, right,

527
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Speaker 7: but you go into a blockbuster trade for Christian McCaffrey

528
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Speaker 7: and guess why you're going to the Super Bowl again?

529
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Speaker 2: Because of Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 8: That's what I was gonna say. Like, the trade deadline

531
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Speaker 8: came and went, and we were talking about it on here,

532
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Speaker 8: and we all saw areas where the Cowboys did need

533
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Speaker 8: some help and nothing really happened. So I do agree.

534
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Speaker 8: And and I'm sitting here just thinking listening to you guys,

535
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Speaker 8: and you know, it's hard to come up with an

536
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Speaker 8: exact answer because I was here for a good part

537
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Speaker 8: of Jason Garrett's era. Every year seemed like you got

538
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 8: the same thing type of stuff right, And then with McCarthy,

539
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Speaker 8: the only thing that I would say is like every

540
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Speaker 8: year you feel like, okay, we changed this part this

541
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Speaker 8: coaching staff. When got fired, you got Dan Quinn. Okay,

542
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Speaker 8: now we got some improvement. Okay, So you start adding

543
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Speaker 8: elements where you see areas of improvement. Even this year.

544
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Speaker 8: Now we're talking about Dak Prescott having his best year

545
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Speaker 8: of his career. And then you you once again you think, Okay,

546
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Speaker 8: well we just waste this. It could be, yeah, could be.

547
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Speaker 8: But I don't think anyone has really the answer to

548
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Speaker 8: the solution. But we I think we all agree with

549
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Speaker 8: what you're saying. I mean, when they to the playoffs,

550
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 8: everything just completely changes.

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Speaker 4: I'm not putting it all on Mike McCarthy.

552
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Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's something fundamentally you

553
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Speaker 1: ask why twenty five years of not having success. I

554
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Speaker 1: don't think that there's been times where you've had the

555
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Speaker 1: guy in that chair or the guys in those those

556
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Speaker 1: rooms that have been able to push you through.

557
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Speaker 4: I really don't that.

558
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Speaker 1: That's to me, that's the one thing that that one

559
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Speaker 1: common enough. How can these rosters be so good year

560
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: in and year out and then you not being able

561
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Speaker 1: to see this thing through?

562
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Speaker 4: You know that there, you know. And it seems like

563
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Speaker 4: I'm pointing the finger at McCarthy. I'm not.

564
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, look through the history, look through the

565
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Speaker 1: history of this. When they've had really really good teams

566
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Speaker 1: and you're and you fall short, and you're like, wait

567
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Speaker 1: a minute, they're the giant, They're not the giants aren't

568
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Speaker 1: better than them? And seven yea, you know the team,

569
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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen team.

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Speaker 2: You know that's fourteen teams.

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Speaker 1: The fourteen team. Yeah, you start to go, why are

572
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Speaker 1: they falling short? And I I just to me, it's

573
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Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to try and to identify.

574
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Speaker 1: But when you feel like you have a roster that

575
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Speaker 1: has six, seven, eight Pro Bowl players every year and

576
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: a quarterback that played at a pro at an MVP level,

577
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Speaker 1: there's something not right there. There's something not And as

578
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Speaker 1: much as they helped Doc during the regular season, there

579
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Speaker 1: was some there was a disconnect and that in that

580
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Speaker 1: playoff game, and and that's that's that's a shame, that's.

581
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Speaker 7: A I feel like it's time to go into overkill

582
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Speaker 7: mode personnel wise, because it's something that Ambar said sparked

583
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Speaker 7: the thought in my head. They they see a situation

584
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Speaker 7: that they might need help in, and maybe they address it.

585
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Speaker 7: But what about what's to be said for upgrade versus

586
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Speaker 7: simply waiting for an issue to become an issue. Why

587
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Speaker 7: not just upgrade for the sake of upgrading right at

588
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Speaker 7: any particular position. Example, if you have an opportunity to

589
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Speaker 7: go right, example being you know what Ceedee Lamb is, now,

590
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 7: you know what Brandon Cooks can be offense, et cetera,

591
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 7: et cetera. But there's a guy who's a brother of

592
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 7: a defensive guy here, for example, without me saying the name,

593
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 7: that would be like an overkill mode, right, Howie Roseman,

594
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 7: he goes into overkill mode. Shanahan and those guys out

595
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 7: there at Lynch they going to overkill mode.

596
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys.

597
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Speaker 7: For as great as they do at drafting, developing, and

598
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Speaker 7: then paying some of those guys that they've developed, it

599
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 7: keeps popping in my head that when you get to

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Speaker 7: the postseason, who is the opposing team absolutely terrified? Up Right,

601
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 7: teams are terrified of Deebo Samuel, They're terrified of Christian McCaffrey,

602
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 7: maybe not Brock Purdy, but they're terrified of George Kittle.

603
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 7: Then you flip it to the defensive side of the ball. Now,

604
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 7: Cowboys do have some terrifying guys. Michael Paris as the

605
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 7: Marcus Lawrence would be like your Nick Bosa and guys

606
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 7: like that. But from an offensive standpoint, and then maybe

607
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 7: it's certain spots linebacker for example.

608
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Speaker 4: They don't.

609
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Speaker 7: Right, you don't have a Fred one teams, you gotta

610
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Speaker 7: have waves of those teams are terrified going to overkill.

611
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 7: If you're all in and you are going to let

612
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Speaker 7: McCarthy coach this year out and you are if you're

613
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Speaker 7: in fact going to let Dak Prescott into a contract year, Okay,

614
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 7: this is a perfect time to say, overkill mode, we're

615
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Speaker 7: going to get as many terrifying guys.

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Speaker 6: But here's the argument that goes against that. They got

617
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Speaker 6: nine guys going to the Pro Bowl. They got guys,

618
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Speaker 6: So back to that point.

619
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Speaker 2: So the guys and then there's that guy.

620
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Speaker 6: No, I get that, but you got in den Bland,

621
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Speaker 6: a guy that teams Legitimately, we're concerned about what kind

622
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Speaker 6: of balls were going this way. Now, there was some

623
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Speaker 6: ways to take advantage of him. We saw that, right,

624
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Speaker 6: but you had to be very careful when you came

625
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 6: in to the game. You have to be thoughtful about

626
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: where he is and what kind of throw a you're

627
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Speaker 6: going to make to his side of the field, because

628
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: he could turn into six points the other way. Right,

629
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Speaker 6: there are guys like that. They have players. I don't

630
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Speaker 6: think that that's necessarily it. Now you can make an argument,

631
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Speaker 6: are those players showing up in the playoff games at

632
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Speaker 6: maybe a whole different conversation, and it may be a

633
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 6: fair conversation. But I think they got guys, and I

634
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Speaker 6: think they got guys other teams. Legitimately we have to

635
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 6: game plan around. I just don't know if those guys

636
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 6: have shown up in the way we expect them to

637
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: in the biggest moments.

638
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Speaker 7: And that goes to the guy. The difference between being

639
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 7: a guy. Right, Tony Pollard is a guy. Right, Tony

640
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 7: Pollard can be productive, he can be effective, but he's

641
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 7: not Christian McCaffrey. Right, you talk about a guy who's

642
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if we can say this, but he's

643
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Speaker 7: pending free agency.

644
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Speaker 2: So let me put it this way, barring a new

645
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: deal being.

646
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Speaker 7: Agreed upon, a guy like Derrick Henry, for example, we'll

647
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Speaker 7: get into the minute.

648
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Speaker 6: By the way, just so you know, this is just friends.

649
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Speaker 6: We're talking about this stuff. There is no relation between

650
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Speaker 6: us and what's happening on the football side the building.

651
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 7: There you go, So Derrick Henry being a prime example

652
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Speaker 7: of being a prime example of appreciate you possibly going

653
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Speaker 7: into overkill mode saying, Okay, I know Tony poll is

654
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Speaker 7: going in the free agency, but as opposed to saying, well,

655
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Speaker 7: we'll bring Tony Pollard and try to run this back

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Speaker 7: with him as RB one, We're going to try to

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Speaker 7: upgrade and going to overkill. And I'm fine with the

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Speaker 7: cornerbacks if you keep Stepan around and Trevon Dix is

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Speaker 7: coming back and you got to Ron Bland, that true

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Speaker 7: the the linebacker position, you want more from de Mount Clark.

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Speaker 7: Overshown is a rookie who's coming off of a redshirt

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Speaker 7: season in a town acol. He's going to require some time.

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Speaker 7: We've seen that Marquise Bell. Although very athletic, that flex

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Speaker 7: getting to the second level and now he washes you out.

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Speaker 2: So you need a linebacker.

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Speaker 7: And free agency big name well first Bobby Wagner when

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Speaker 7: he came available, for example. That's what I mean going

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Speaker 7: into overkill mode. This team has a lot of very

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Speaker 7: very good players, and they have a few players that

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Speaker 7: can terrify the opposing team, but why not get more

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Speaker 7: players that can tell?

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Speaker 2: And there is no problem with that.

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Speaker 6: I do think one thing that jumped out to me

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Speaker 6: talk about Overshown and you think there's going to be

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Speaker 6: something there. You think you got a player there. When

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Speaker 6: you look at Mazi, you say you had a first

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Speaker 6: round of next year, you expect him to maybe make

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Speaker 6: a leap this next year. Those are the situations where

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Speaker 6: we got a guy.

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Speaker 4: We'll let them develop.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to we don't want to stop his right,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to stop his progress.

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Speaker 6: Those are the places where I'm like, no, this offseason,

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Speaker 6: go look on the free agent market. See who is

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Speaker 6: the baddest defensive tackle out I get that guy. I

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Speaker 6: don't care who you got on your roster. Go get

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Speaker 6: that guy. Who's the best linebacker you got out there?

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Speaker 6: Go get that guy because you can't have too many

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Speaker 6: of them. Go get that guy and get the players who.

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Speaker 2: Actually can make a difference for this time.

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Speaker 1: I think if I was Mike McCarthy, I would be

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Speaker 1: standing at Will mcclay's door every single day like, what

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Speaker 4: What about this guy?

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Speaker 1: If my job was on the line, you're going to

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Speaker 1: try I'm going to wear you out every day about players.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to wear you out. Okay, where do we

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Speaker 1: got this guy's in the draft boards? What's our plan

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Speaker 1: to go get this guy? I really like Laporta the

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Speaker 1: tight end, Like, let's make this happen. Guys, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you I like Laporte. You know, if I'm Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: and I really like a player.

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Speaker 4: I am, I am.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be sick of me, you know, walking

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Speaker 1: in there and talking about these players you are.

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Speaker 6: We're going to our first break thirty three minutes. And

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Speaker 6: let me just say for the record, we will get

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Speaker 6: to dak next week. Little man get there this show,

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Speaker 6: so boy, we will come back. We had a couple

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Speaker 4: Back to the break. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're in stretch. Run for buddy Sean Polite. He's your

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Speaker 2: be nice.

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Speaker 6: It is the second segment of the break laugh in

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Speaker 2: We've got nine minutes. Let's see what we can do there.

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Speaker 4: You guys have been good hosts by away for the

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Speaker 4: Bowl game for the East West.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you went over there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a good talent of the good stuff

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Speaker 4: Man Trap show. We had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Good yeah, good good, good evaluation starts a great place

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Speaker 1: to watch football.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is, yeah, it really is. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: get this this next.

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Speaker 1: Tickets for the event too, for what the ticket by

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Speaker 1: your ticket for the game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I got yes, go check out the game. Yeah

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Speaker 2: all right, So Jerry also had to help you here. No,

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Speaker 2: it's goods, good stuff.

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Speaker 6: Jerry also had a comment about Mike McCarthy and bringing

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Speaker 6: him back.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to that. That's clip number one.

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Speaker 3: Chris, uh and understand disruption and uh uh. I think

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Speaker 3: that the nature of what we do with our roster decisions,

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Speaker 3: the fact that we're here looking at help, if you will,

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Speaker 3: for this coming here here at the senior bow, the

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Speaker 3: fact that we have free agency opportunities, the fact that

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Speaker 3: we've got some really of substantive decisions to make own

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Speaker 3: our roster as it pertains to particularly influenced by the

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Speaker 3: salary cap.

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Speaker 4: That's enough disruption for me.

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Speaker 3: And five we get through all of those decisions, there

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Speaker 3: will be a lot of disruption, all right.

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Speaker 6: That was an interesting comment about disruption, mainly about them

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Speaker 6: figuring out how they're going to change things up.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the crux of what he was saying.

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Speaker 6: The interesting part about that is Mike McCarthy's back, presumably

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Speaker 6: dak is back. Yeah, as it looks right now, there's

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Speaker 6: still a pretty good chance that Dan Quinn is back.

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Speaker 6: So if all those three three things stay the same,

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Speaker 6: and again Quinn's still up for jobs that have not

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Speaker 6: been filled, so there's a possibility he's gone. But assuming

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Speaker 6: all those three things stay the same, what would you

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Speaker 6: think is the most important things the thing that Dallas

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Speaker 6: needs to address this offseason to create the greatest disruption

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Speaker 6: and the greatest difference maker in what they saw what

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Speaker 6: we saw this year into what would be next year.

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Speaker 1: Briani and go first, you know, we I think we

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Speaker 1: really in the thirty five minutes we talked before, we

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Speaker 1: kind of a trust that, you know, when you start

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Speaker 1: to look at the rosters and things like that.

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Speaker 4: They need to get back to that hitting on those

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Speaker 4: two or three draft the kids that they get on

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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 6: I'm what I'm asking more is, specifically, what is that

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Speaker 6: one area that if you couldn't address all the other ones,

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Speaker 6: this is the area that.

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Speaker 2: Makes the biggest difference. Is it defensive tackle? Is it line?

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Speaker 4: I see?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got they've got to They've got to draft

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Speaker 1: a center. They if they want to run the football,

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Speaker 1: they've got to find a way to get better at center.

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Speaker 1: And they've got to and I'm sorry I misunderstood your question.

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Speaker 4: That, but yeah, they have to.

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Speaker 1: They have to find a way to get the center,

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Speaker 1: and they got to get the right tackle healthy again.

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Speaker 1: And then they've got to figure out scoon Maker and

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Speaker 1: those guys have got to have a really good offseason

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Speaker 1: within the weight room and things. But the most important

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Speaker 1: thing for them is if they really really really want

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Speaker 1: to run the football, they got to address their center.

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Speaker 7: I agree, you have to address center. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: keep it to the offensive line, because we've already talked

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Speaker 7: about linebackers. I think that's glaringly obvious. What's your left

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Speaker 7: tackle situation? Because Tyron Smith he's going into unrestricted free agency,

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Speaker 7: assuming that no deal lands before the league year opens

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Speaker 7: in mid March, and even if you choose to bring

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Speaker 7: him back, maybe like on a one year deal, maybe

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Speaker 7: two year deal with a one year opt out, you

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Speaker 7: still need to figure out the present and future at

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Speaker 7: that position. We know they're not going to move Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 7: That ship has definitely sailed. So what do you got.

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Speaker 7: You got Matt will Let's go. You can only hope

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Speaker 7: that he remains durable, but he's now had sublizations on

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Speaker 7: both shoulders. You got Austin Richards mid round pick from

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Speaker 7: last season, didn't develop well enough to get playing time

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Speaker 7: this past year despite your injury issues at left tackle.

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Speaker 7: So for me, you got to figure out the left

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Speaker 7: tackle situation. And I think that I agree with Brian

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Speaker 7: completely in that you need to look at potentially going

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Speaker 7: center at least entertaining center as one of your top picks.

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Speaker 7: But that also goes right up against you might need

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Speaker 7: to consider your left tackle situation one of your top

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Speaker 7: picks as well.

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Speaker 4: Good point.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, exactly agree with all that. And when we

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Speaker 8: were having the conversation earlier about making those tough decisions,

876
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 8: I immediately thought about, Okay, you guys are the same

877
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 8: people that were saying you would want to have Tyron

878
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 8: Smith back on the team, which is which is tough

879
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 8: because again, once you present your one, we know it's good. Okay, yeah,

880
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 8: but it's one of those things that Okay, we've seen

881
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 8: it happen in the past, and then I'm fast forward

882
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 8: to that moment because we history has shown that's gonna

883
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 8: happen at some point or another. And then we're sitting

884
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 8: here talking about it and being like, man, here we

885
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 8: go again. Who's gonna be there to start the game?

886
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah, is it gonna play not play? And

887
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 8: then those are situations that you already know, So how

888
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 8: are you preparing yourself? This is not it didn't happen

889
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 8: just it last year or the year before. This has

890
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 8: been going on for years. So it's those type of things,

891
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 8: and it this having these conversations and I know we're

892
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 8: this is part of the job, and we're gonna have

893
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 8: these conversations and we're gonna keep going. But it's so

894
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 8: frustrating because nothing we say matters, really nothing we say matters,

895
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 8: nothing we say, we cannot predict the future. And what

896
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 8: sucks most is even having to go through the whole season.

897
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 8: We won't have the answer until we get to the

898
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 8: playoffs again and really see if this changes worked or not.

899
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 8: But totally agree with just being able to run the ball.

900
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 8: I think those are one of my top priorities for

901
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 8: this year as well. And we've talked about it already. Penalties,

902
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 8: just addressing the issue. Those things have hurt you so

903
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 8: much throughout the season. It's been an ongoing issue that

904
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 8: I think that they need to really really figure out

905
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 8: how to really address that.

906
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: When they've drafted offensive lineman the first round, they've been

907
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: plug and play and they've had success, They've had really

908
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: good drafts. When they draft guys like that, and all

909
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: of a sudden they put them in and then now

910
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: everything kind of follows behind that, they figure everything else

911
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: behind that. So drafting off of lineman, whether it's a

912
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: tackle a center, that to me is I have no

913
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: problem with either one of those.

914
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: Ill thre he one more curveball For me, it's linebacker

915
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 6: because I look at three of the four teams that

916
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 6: were playing last weekend.

917
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh sure have studs at linebacker.

918
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 6: Some of them have two, not just one, they got two,

919
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 6: Like San Francisco has two, Baltimore has two.

920
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 4: Right.

921
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 6: I look at that, and I say, if you talk

922
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 6: about this defense, there's a lot of areas where you're like, man,

923
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 6: they are really strong. They got some really good players

924
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: at a lot of different positions. My thought is, get

925
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 6: yourself a Fred Warner. I know that's easier said than done,

926
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 6: but get yourself that kind of linebacker that changes everything

927
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 6: on this defense. In my opinion, you need a playmaking

928
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: type linebacker that is just as good if you decide

929
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 6: to send him at the quarterback as he is out

930
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 6: in pass coverage, as he is dicing through the defense

931
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 6: to make a tackle behind the line of scrimmage. You

932
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 6: need that kind of guy, and I think that would

933
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 6: make a bigger impact than anything else you could.

934
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: Do right now on this team.

935
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: I think you're going to have to spend money on that.

936
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: Just looking at the college kids. Yeah, look at the

937
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: college kids.

938
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: Though, the guys like Edrian Cooper from Texas A and

939
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: M It would be a really, really good option.

940
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: There.

941
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: This group is a good I say a good group.

942
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: But what happens is there's guys that are banged up.

943
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean banged up like Shawn Lee banged up, and

944
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Layton Vandrush banged up. You know, one of the best,

945
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: one of the best players at linebackers, a kid named

946
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Peyton Wilson from North Carolina State. Uh, double digit surgeries,

947
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: but one of the best linebackers.

948
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: In the country.

949
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm staying away from that.

950
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

951
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: I guess Jeremiah Trotter, Now, yeah, Jeremiah Trotter, love him.

952
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, spent six foot he's two hundred thirty pounds.

953
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: I think if Dallas is going to do damage, going

954
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: all in, spend your money on a veteran linebacker. Go

955
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: out and get a veteran linebacker. And the list is

956
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty substantial one.

957
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: I think that can help you.

958
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: All Right, real quick, before we end the show, let's

959
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 6: get to this final cut that we had. This one

960
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 6: was about Dax's improvement from with Mike McCarthy and his offense.

961
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: That's cut number two. Let's check it out.

962
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: You certainly have made improvement in areas I think Dak,

963
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: for instance, writa at a key spot there with Dak,

964
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: Dak has improved since Mike has been here, and I

965
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: think we can look forward to that improvement. There's more

966
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: there to get in terms of Dak's improvement quote Mike,

967
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: and the evidence points to that. And so with more

968
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: to get there, more pluses own Dak. That impacts a

969
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: lot of other things we're doing right now with our

970
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: decisions we're making sort of all made sense to.

971
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Have him back there.

972
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones is talking about Mike McCarthy and him working

973
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 6: with Dak. I think we all agree that Dak had

974
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: one of his best seasons and you've got to get

975
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: some credit.

976
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: To Mike absolutely for that. Absolutely.

977
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 6: My question is specifically, what are the areas where you

978
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: think that he made the difference, Like, what were the

979
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 6: areas that in Dak's game where you saw a tangible

980
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 6: difference this year over last year or other years.

981
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 7: I'm going to say timing in chemistry with the receivers.

982
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 7: Dak talked a lot about in the training camp and

983
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 7: over the course of the season, the timing of the

984
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 7: footwork and versus the release right point for the ball

985
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 7: so I think that McCarthy's offense served Dak and CD

986
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 7: Lamb very well in that capacity as far as making

987
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 7: sure that in Dak's mind and it became muscle memory,

988
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 7: you know, one two ball goes goes to this spot,

989
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 7: receiver needs to be at this spot. So McCarthy did

990
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: very well in that capacity, and I think that that's

991
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 7: something that Dak Prescott and this offense can really build on.

992
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: And that's that's one of those.

993
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 7: Things where it's like, it's difficult because the fans don't

994
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 7: want to hear about praise right now, and that's fair.

995
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: I get it one hundred percent. But two things can

996
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: be true.

997
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 7: So you can say that it was a failure on

998
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 7: all levels against the Packers, because it was. It's also

999
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 7: true that if we're talking regular season, Mike McCarthy first

1000
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 7: year back as a play after several years off from

1001
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 7: doing so, he gets Dak Prescott in the MVP conversation

1002
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 7: make ceedee Lama NFL his historic wide receiver Jake Ferguson

1003
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 7: has a breakout season. So to Jerry's point, there is

1004
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 7: something still to be built there. It just needs to

1005
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 7: translate over to the postseason. So unfortunately, like you said,

1006
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: like we said on previous shows, now we're going into

1007
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 7: a season where it doesn't matter how many wins they

1008
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 7: get in twenty twenty four. They could be a thirteen

1009
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: and fourteen, fourteen and three team, and all we're going

1010
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: to sit here and wonder is what happens in January.

1011
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: He schemed more routes, he gave more open throws and

1012
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: wop seed around him.

1013
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: He did. He did a lot more year the first

1014
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: five weeks of this season, though one very good on offense.

1015
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: He listened, They made some changes, but he gave Dak

1016
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: more open throws than what we've seen in the past.

1017
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Also some pre snap, a lot more pre snap.

1018
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, he looked up just a lot more comfortable in general.

1019
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 8: Where you talked about muscle memory, I think that did

1020
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 8: kick in this year for him, where you don't see

1021
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 8: him having to really think about it that much or

1022
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 8: look around, or then all of a sudden he's just

1023
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 8: throwing the ball to get rid of it. I think

1024
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 8: his throws were a lot more precise because he was

1025
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 8: a lot more in sync with the receiver, especially Ceedee

1026
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 8: Lamb as a whole, and I think he mentally was

1027
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 8: just at a good spot physically too, because even last year,

1028
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 8: coming with the injury that he had or whatever, I

1029
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 8: think he still had that in his And that's just

1030
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 8: me assuming just mentally there he just didn't seem as comfortable.

1031
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 8: But this year he does. And I do think Dak

1032
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 8: can be the quarterback that takes this team to a

1033
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 8: super Bowl. And I know that people when I talk

1034
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 8: about how bad he played in this game, and he

1035
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 8: played really really bad against the Packers, but at the

1036
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 8: same time, it was collectively bad. It was everybody. It

1037
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 8: was not just on Dak. So I've seen Dak have

1038
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 8: really really great games. I've seen Dak kind of for

1039
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 8: the first time. I feel like in his career there

1040
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 8: were times where he carried the team and that's something

1041
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 8: new that I had not seen before from Dak in

1042
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 8: his game as the.

1043
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: Core it back.

1044
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 8: So I think, uh, he can be that guy. Do

1045
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 8: you just need a You got a lot of other things.

1046
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 7: Resurgence, mobility as well in this first year. Yeah, it

1047
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 7: doesn't play caller, so finally that that became a thing

1048
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 7: as well.

1049
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you guys. Jonas back next week, maybe

1050
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Dak. We'll see what others.

1051
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 6: Brian will not be here with us, as we found out,

1052
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 6: but maybe we can get you to call in for

1053
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: a quick segment.

1054
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about it.

1055
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 4: I will tell you what's going on with the Super Bowl.

1056
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Happy parents have cursed you out, hope.

1057
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 4: Take a number. Take a number if.

1058
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: You said you guys you want to super back next week?

1059
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: Patrick Walker, Brian Broddis Nambergarci. I'm Derek Eagleton.

1060
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1061
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