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Speaker 2: fall to the Washington Commanders twenty nine twenty one Giants

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Speaker 2: on the season now fall to two and twelve. The

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Speaker 2: Commanders improve to four and ten. John Schmelk, Tiki Barber,

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Speaker 2: Bob Poppa with you and guys. I thought, Bob, you

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Speaker 2: put it perfectly at the end of the game, just

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Speaker 2: a team loss where you had mistakes on special teams early,

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Speaker 2: especially on defense, and then at the end of the

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Speaker 2: game on offense. A the first half offense was just bad.

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Speaker 2: The second half offense they missed some opportunities down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: And when you have a team like this, they might

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Speaker 2: make some plays here or there, but they never make

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Speaker 2: enough plays.

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Speaker 1: Tiki to win a football Now they.

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Speaker 3: Don't, and it's and it's disheartening a little bit, even

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Speaker 3: though he's still a rookie to see Jackson Dart take

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Speaker 3: a step let's call it like halfway back.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a full step backwards.

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Speaker 3: But as Bob was mentioning, and you were dead on it, Bob,

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Speaker 3: he missed a lot of throws in this game, and

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Speaker 3: he made it difficult for his wide receivers. Those two

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Speaker 3: last attempts to wand out Robinson weren't even close to

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Speaker 3: be incompletable.

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Speaker 1: But earlier in this game, I mean, what did he start?

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Speaker 1: He was four of eleven. He ammailed that one to

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't because it was extra pressure, he was

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Speaker 3: swing in compromised positions. It was he was just off

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Speaker 3: and and ultimately that comes to bite you, especially when

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Speaker 3: you compound it with the special teams issues that they've

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Speaker 3: had missing field goals, field goals, young waykup can't make

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Speaker 3: any fifty one yard field goal. I mean, that's all

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Speaker 3: automatic in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Not just why left to our point, TK, it was short,

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Speaker 2: it didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even get there.

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Speaker 3: Then you give up a punt return and Darius Slayton

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Speaker 3: and all those things start compounding and it looks like

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Speaker 3: a bad football team. It looks like a poorly coached

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Speaker 3: football team, and frustrates the heck out of you because

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Speaker 3: we know that that's not the case from what we

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean the other thing too, is you have momentum,

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Speaker 4: Schmidz gets called for a fifteen yard pounalty and have

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Speaker 4: a second and five at the twenty, Right, that's stupidity, right,

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Speaker 4: and so now you lose fifteen yards. Then you have

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Speaker 4: the Slaton drop touchdown. But this game was a microcosm

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Speaker 4: of the entire season. Here's one thing I think Tea

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Speaker 4: he watching Jackson dark play today because look, he could

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Speaker 4: have hit Slayton. He was late and it felt like

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Speaker 4: everything was drifting to the middle. He was late, and

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Speaker 4: it also was behind Slayton Wandell on these deep balls,

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Speaker 1: I have a theory here.

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Speaker 2: Now he had some good throws too, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Talking all the ones to the good point.

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Speaker 3: And the reason is it's usually because your hips are

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing I think. I think that with

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Speaker 1: But we were locked there, right. We practiced in the

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Speaker 4: Room was in the building, right, So your coach may say,

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Speaker 4: because you could talk about all the wind you want

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Speaker 4: in this building. And Phil Simms made a career of

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Speaker 4: out playing opposing quarterbacks in November and December and Giants Stadium,

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, like the Giant sideline and the old

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Speaker 4: So Sims and Mconkeie and Bivar they figured they knew

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Speaker 4: think it would behoove them moving forward in December to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to know that is genius. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: And because no, I'm going ahead to Gemstar, I was

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Speaker 1: It's a good idea, Bob.

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Speaker 2: And just to note, the wind issues didn't really arrive

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Speaker 4: That was interesting because when the stadium was built, it

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Speaker 1: Of course? Of course, of course not.

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Speaker 4: You can't allow for the second straight game, allow punt return.

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Speaker 1: You can't allow easy scores the other way.

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Speaker 4: And it's it just never seems to be complementary, Like

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Speaker 1: Leads up to where we are with the record that

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back here on Giants at your point,

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Speaker 2: giants fall to the command. There's twenty nine to twenty

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Speaker 2: one and Tiki. We spent a lot of time in

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Speaker 2: being mathematically eliminated. How important is for certain players and

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Speaker 2: young players to finish the season strong, and we certainly

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Speaker 2: got that today from Abdull Carter having easily his best

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Speaker 2: Bob was going through that during the game. I'm not

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't want to give the number. Because

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Speaker 1: On the officials. I don't get it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: To the point is that you need what are you

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Speaker 3: We reference to Dan Campbell example, it's worth it, but

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Speaker 3: Full sack of the season, and he felt like the

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Speaker 1: You liked how they were using him. Right they've used

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Speaker 3: and they finally did that and he took advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: And Bob, that's what we need, right, The Giants need

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Speaker 2: these young players to show that, all right, well, we

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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about this spot when we attack

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Speaker 2: the offseason, whether it's to draft, whether it's free agency.

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Speaker 1: Can some of these young guys on.

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Speaker 2: There rookie deal show that, all right, this is a

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Speaker 2: we don't need to bring in reinforcements out right.

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Speaker 4: Let's now, let's back it up next week. Right, You're

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Speaker 1: Like, let's keep stacking him if you will.

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Speaker 1: To try to score, And those are the exactly right.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be better than you. Well, the problem is

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Speaker 1: So it's like you're it's pride, it's like hubris. It's

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Speaker 1: Because it got them knocked out of the game and

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Speaker 4: I don't like having to go backwards to go forward.

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Speaker 4: Right exactly right, you know which do you see teams

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: After this, Giants fall to the command. There's twenty nine

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Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Command. There's twenty nine to twenty

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Speaker 6: You know from the game, so can pretty good?

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Speaker 5: The play where Dark ended up going to the tent,

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Speaker 6: Well, it's like he's either throw it. It means either

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Speaker 8: It was because of his neck and waiting.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure what like that, what the reason, what

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Speaker 9: The passing operation seemed a little off in the first half.

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Speaker 6: They I asked for an excellent explanation, sorry, and they

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Speaker 6: So with our coaches, our players, I saw the look

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Speaker 10: And all your time in football, have you ever gone

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Speaker 6: I haven't personally, but we're in it right now, and

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Speaker 7: Oh, Mike, so Jackson had sixty three yards on the ground.

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Speaker 6: I think just having the designed my thought process for

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Speaker 6: how we scheme it up.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 6: So I thought we had a couple opportunities where you know,

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Speaker 6: he's protected, he's got someone out in front of him,

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Speaker 6: you know, and that one particular player where he got out,

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Speaker 6: you know, I was a pass, you know. So you know,

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Speaker 6: I think there's not much you can really do there.

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Speaker 6: But of course we have his health where anyone's health

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Speaker 6: and mind, we call plays and we think about it.

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Speaker 6: But it's one of his great strengths. And you saw

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Speaker 6: it today in full color when he's out there scranner

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Speaker 6: and making huge plays with his feet. And he's an

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Speaker 6: aggressive ball player. So we're not going to take away

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Speaker 6: his stinger on that aspect. But he knows, he knows

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Speaker 6: when he knows. He's a smart football player, and he

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Speaker 6: knows when he needs to protect himself and when he

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Speaker 6: needs to go and make a play. And I trust

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Speaker 6: him to do that and that's probably the most important thing.

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Speaker 6: The guys on the field trust them to go do that.

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Speaker 6: And so you know, as we've talked, you know, through

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Speaker 6: the through the weeks now with with with Jackson, this

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Speaker 6: is a part of his game I think makes him

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Speaker 6: special and as he continues to grow, I think he's

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Speaker 6: making smarts. He's took a couple of slides today. It's

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Speaker 6: part of that growth process. But that's one of the

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Speaker 6: lead things he does in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Wow, how likely is it that the other quarterbacks would play?

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Speaker 7: How likely is it nil.

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Speaker 6: Instead of Jackson? Jackson will roll as long as he's healthy.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, Gunner dealing with the concussion and the uncertainty

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Speaker 9: he was gonna plays.

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Speaker 11: Me.

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Speaker 9: Why did Mullet wanted to return specialists that you guys

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Speaker 9: have on the practice store.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we we We definitely had those conversations just late

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Speaker 6: in the week where we had some other groups, other

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Speaker 6: position groups that we were we were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 6: on the D line where we had some some sicknesses

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Speaker 6: and things like that. So we had a lot of

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Speaker 6: trust and hord to go back there and fair Catcher

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Speaker 6: and that actually had a couple of nice returns for us.

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Speaker 6: But it was certainly one of the discussion points that

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Speaker 6: we had in the week.

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Speaker 8: What'd you see from what dual tay.

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Speaker 6: Abdul played his tail off? It's no surprise he prepared

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Speaker 6: that way and that's how he how he addressed the

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Speaker 6: week he came in. I thought he played his butt off,

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Speaker 6: you know, funder recovery, funder return, had a couple of

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Speaker 6: plays in the backfield. I mean, he was playing with

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Speaker 6: his with his hair on fire today, So that's one steps.

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Speaker 6: Keep on stacking those days. But we're you know, really

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Speaker 6: without washing the tape yet. I thought he played played

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Speaker 6: his butt off the first time spend.

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Speaker 7: You know, you end up having fetch McGain for two

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Speaker 7: games later. How much different was the response this time

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Speaker 7: in yours?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you just see growth from the player. You see

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Speaker 6: growth from him. He's he's taking a kindability for it.

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Speaker 6: He's learned from those things and he's putting together good week.

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Speaker 8: You see.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's in here early, staying late and trying

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Speaker 6: to make himself a better player. But you know, and

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Speaker 6: he's helping the team. And that's what it's really is

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Speaker 6: all about, is not knowledge, just helping himself be prepped

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Speaker 6: and ready for the game. But he's helping the unit.

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Speaker 6: He's helping his group, he's helping the team be more

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Speaker 6: productive and and and everyone's doing that. You know, they're

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Speaker 6: doing You see guys in there early in the morning,

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Speaker 6: you know. And I'm walking around the building and I

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Speaker 6: see guys in there studying and getting their body right,

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Speaker 6: Like that's that's important, and that's you know, you see

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Speaker 6: a young player like ad doing that. He's taken off

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Speaker 6: from somebody who's well. Brian bows is in the building early,

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Speaker 6: detriments in the building early. You know, guys on offense,

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Speaker 6: same thing, young players. You see those guys in and

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Speaker 6: around the building and you know, and it doesn't means

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Speaker 6: something to him. So I think that's super important. And uh,

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Speaker 6: I think at the end of the day, that'll help

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Speaker 6: cut us the results.

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Speaker 7: Who want two more more no more canser?

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Speaker 2: Then that's our coaches press conference, brought you by Hacking

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Speaker 2: zachamertin health, keep getting better, time out, Giants Falls and

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Speaker 2: Commanders twenty nine to twenty one will be back after this.

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Speaker 5: Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: This is Tyron Tracy Jr.

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Speaker 6: Versy ten.

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Speaker 1: Dart out of the gun will throw again.

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Speaker 15: Dart fires one down the right side for Hyron Tracy

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Speaker 15: who makes.

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Speaker 1: The catch of the end zone for the touchdown. He

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Speaker 1: beat Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 15: Excellently thrown by Dart, even better adjustment by Tracy. He's

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Speaker 15: setting a touchdown of the ball game. And then Giants

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Speaker 15: score of the opening drive of the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: And that great catch by Tyrol and Tracy little back

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Speaker 2: throw their shoulder throw to the sideline from Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 2: Tracy doing a good job adjusting to the ball in

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Speaker 2: the air and making that catch for the score. That

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Speaker 2: Tyrol and Tracy catch went for eighteen yards and cut

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Speaker 2: the lead from twenty two to fourteen. It was our

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Speaker 2: drive of the game, brought to you by Citizens. For

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Speaker 2: every scoring drive this season, Citizens will donate seven hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty dollars of the Giants Foundation to support there

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Speaker 2: were tackling important community issues, improving.

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Speaker 1: Over our health and empowering our youth. It was a

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Speaker 1: seven play, seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Yard drive for the New York Football Giants right the

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Speaker 2: proverbial cards to five yards.

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Speaker 3: The preferbio halftime adjustment really came to came to four.

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Speaker 3: We're gotten used to seeing this Giants team come out

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Speaker 3: in games and have good opening drives. That first fifteen

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Speaker 3: that everybody always talks about. It was bad today. Early on,

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Speaker 3: the first few series were just inept and not productive.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't get first downs. The first drive of the

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Speaker 3: second half was what you usually expect from a Mike

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Speaker 3: Kafka offense, and they took advantage of it, and Tyrone

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Speaker 3: Tracy was a big part of it. Had a couple

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Speaker 3: of good runs on that drive, and then ultimately got

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Speaker 3: matched up against Bobby Wagner, who is he's aging. He's

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Speaker 3: a legend in this game, but he was aging, and

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Speaker 3: and Jackson Dart through the perfect throw for Tyrone Tracy,

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Speaker 3: who played receivers. You guys pointed out uh in college

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Speaker 3: and and and a little bit in at Indiana, and

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Speaker 3: it was at and you saw his ability to make

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Speaker 3: plays down the field. They should actually use that more

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Speaker 3: often with Tyrone Tracy because he is a pretty good

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Speaker 3: route runner and is good with his hands.

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Speaker 1: He's reliable. Let me ask you this. Both teams came

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Speaker 1: into the game ranked.

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Speaker 4: Similarly offensively, and both teams came into the game ranked

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Speaker 4: eerily similar.

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Speaker 1: Defensive right, Washington seemed in this.

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Speaker 4: Football game, especially early on, very committed to pound the

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Speaker 4: rock and see the Giant run d defense would be

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Speaker 4: any better, and it really wasn't. Were you surprised that

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Speaker 4: the Giants threw it as much as they did early

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Speaker 4: in the game as opposed to the twelve personnel and

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Speaker 4: let's they can't stop the run, neither can we Which

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Speaker 4: running game is going to take control of this game?

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Speaker 4: I feel like you know, I couldn't understand why they

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Speaker 4: weren't more run.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, Bob, because you mentioned practicing in the stadium.

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Speaker 3: Because of the weather and the conditions when you're in

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Speaker 3: the Northeast, you have to be able to run the

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Speaker 3: ball come this time of year because the wind is unpredictable.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart as a young rookie quarterback playing mostly in

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Speaker 3: the South and the SEC, he doesn't know how to

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Speaker 3: adjust to these things in real time, and so he

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Speaker 3: was he was off it. He was four of eleven. We said,

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Speaker 3: we already had this conversation about how he started. I

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Speaker 3: was very surprised that they didn't stay with twelve personnel,

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Speaker 3: and you can still do a lot of different things

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Speaker 3: because Theo Johnson has become a pretty reliable pass catcher,

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Speaker 3: even though he does drop what few too many balls,

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Speaker 3: but he's a good pass catcher. I think Daniel Bellinger,

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Speaker 3: who he forgot about until that second second half where

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Speaker 3: he got three straight you know, receptions in a row.

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Speaker 1: Easy throws.

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Speaker 3: You know, you get Frankie Luvu looking in the backfield,

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Speaker 3: he's not covering the flat.

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Speaker 1: Like he's supposed to.

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Speaker 3: You just get the ball out of your hands and

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Speaker 3: throw it to the tight end who's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: in there to block.

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Speaker 1: And so I was. I was very shocked by that, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Because you can.

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Speaker 3: Run from twelve, you can also throw from twelve, and

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Speaker 3: the Giants just got away from it.

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Speaker 1: It's why when I look at this team, nineteen drop backs,

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Speaker 1: only nine running back rushing it right.

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Speaker 3: So I look at this team and sometimes I'm just like, man,

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Speaker 3: Yes it's personnel, Yes guys are underperforming, but sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: the coaching decisions that confound you and piss you off.

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Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest with.

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Speaker 4: You, yeah, I mean I just thought that, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: see you know, we always talk about what we joke

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Speaker 4: around about get right games. Yes, Washington's run defense gonna

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Speaker 4: get right. There's the Giants run defense gonna get right.

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Speaker 4: And at least you know in the early part of

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Speaker 4: the game, because Washington came into the game rank fourth.

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Speaker 1: And the league in rushing. Yes, so they you knew

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Speaker 1: they were going to run the ball right, and.

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Speaker 4: I was curious why the Giants didn't run it more.

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Speaker 4: Now that again, that's not why they lost the game.

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Speaker 4: Talked about the missfield goals. We talked about drop passes,

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Speaker 4: we talked about inaccurate throws, we talked turned off defense,

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Speaker 4: giving up big chunk plays and punt return all that

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Speaker 4: other stuff. So it's but we're kind of trying to

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Speaker 4: dig a little bit deeper in there.

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Speaker 1: But you like my idea here, huh?

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Speaker 3: I do, because I remember doing that, and at the

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Speaker 3: time we took it for granted. It was just like

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Speaker 3: something you did instead of having to walk up the ramp,

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Speaker 3: go to the bubble or go to the practice field,

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Speaker 3: you just kind of take a left and go out

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Speaker 3: into the football field and and you play in an

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Speaker 3: environment that that you're going to experience on Sundays and

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Speaker 3: I didn't think about it in the in the sense of, man,

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Speaker 3: we're getting used to game day, But it's actually what

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Speaker 3: you're doing. You're getting used to the win difference differential.

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Speaker 3: You're getting used to the turf because the field and

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Speaker 3: the bubble is nothing like the field or back we

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Speaker 3: were playing like the field on the on the on

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Speaker 3: the on the in the stadium. And so it just

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Speaker 3: gave you some just knowledge. It wasn't like it was

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Speaker 3: an advantage. It just gave you knowledge on what to

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Speaker 3: expect come game day.

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Speaker 2: In forty six rushing yards for the Giants in this

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Speaker 2: game versus one forty four for the Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So they stuck with it and Tracy had a

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Speaker 4: good game. You know, Tiggy, before you got here, you know,

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Speaker 4: there was no bubble until ninety four, right, so there

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Speaker 4: was a little grass practice field or it was the stadium, and.

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Speaker 1: I chuck it up, let's go.

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Speaker 4: I just think that in order to maybe make this

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Speaker 4: place more of a home field advantage when the weather turns,

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Speaker 4: whoever the next head coach of the Giants, I think

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Speaker 4: it would behoove them to come into this building at

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Speaker 4: least one day a week late when it's cold, in

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Speaker 4: the season and practice in this building because it is especially.

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Speaker 1: When you have a home game.

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Speaker 4: Yeeah, yeah, when you have a home game, because it

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Speaker 4: is unique and you want to use everything, including weird

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Speaker 4: wind patterns as your advantage, not only for your kickers

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Speaker 4: and your punters, but for your thrower at the ball.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a time out. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: Jackson dartlehead to the podium. That whole lot more from downstairs,

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Speaker 2: Giants Ball that the commander is twenty nine to twenty one.

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Speaker 5: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN

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Speaker 5: Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 14: This is Jackson Dart and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 14: on the Fan Wfan and WFA n FM, New York.

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Speaker 2: We're back Jackson Dart at the podium talking about that

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Speaker 2: play where he had to get taken out of the

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Speaker 2: game for the evaluation, So you come back in.

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Speaker 9: Was this the first one that even you were kind

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Speaker 9: of surprised they were asking you to come out.

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Speaker 14: This definitely wasn't the first time that I've been surprised

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Speaker 14: that I've had to come out, but I was definitely surprised.

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Speaker 14: Just didn't feel like it was that big of a

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Speaker 14: hit at all obviously, just like the situation that we

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Speaker 14: were into first and goal.

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Speaker 7: On the two.

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Speaker 14: It's a big thing that happens in the game. So

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Speaker 14: I was, you know, definitely surprised.

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Speaker 8: One of the interception.

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Speaker 10: What was the route to stay to the outside it

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Speaker 10: cause your ball went inside, you.

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Speaker 8: Got the receiver got cut off out there. Can you

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Speaker 8: just walk as through with what you saw in that

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Speaker 8: death lay there?

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I mean Jene just went on.

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Speaker 14: The same page. So you know, we gotta get that

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Speaker 14: corrected by reps, and you know we will.

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Speaker 9: When when you're taken out of the games and then,

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Speaker 9: does it feel like they're.

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Speaker 7: They're almost watching you extra close for whatever reason?

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Speaker 14: Like yeah, absolutely, I mean you don't just see people

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Speaker 14: getting taken out of the game like that. So I

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Speaker 14: I definitely feel like there's a there's a sensitivity for

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Speaker 14: for some reason.

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Speaker 16: Think it might be related to.

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Speaker 14: The fact that they let you go back get in

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Speaker 14: Chicago and they're overcorrecting.

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Speaker 10: MM.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure, you know, for the reason.

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Speaker 14: I think that would just be something that hopefully can

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Speaker 14: get communicated. I'm not really sure to be honest, why

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Speaker 14: that happened?

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Speaker 6: Do you got to do about that?

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Speaker 8: What can you do about that? Is there anything?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't. I don't know if you.

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Speaker 1: Could do to change that narrative or to change.

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Speaker 7: That perception or maybe just like run the other way.

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Speaker 7: I don't I have I have no idea. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 7: Could you talk about the last possession where you could.

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Speaker 9: Have tied the game?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I take accountability for this one. You know,

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Speaker 14: I didn't play well enough today for this team to win.

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Speaker 14: So I gotta be better, especially in that situation. And

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Speaker 14: I didn't play good enough for a team today.

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Speaker 8: When that passed the slaton was it?

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Speaker 7: Was it intended for you to loft it?

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Speaker 10: Or did when you think of it in hindsight, should

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Speaker 10: just thrown involve them differently.

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Speaker 8: On that that round.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely just didn't put a good enough throw on it.

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Speaker 14: That was wasn't like the play that was designed. It

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Speaker 14: was a communication that me and him had in the

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Speaker 14: huddle to ride off, you know, an adjustment that we

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Speaker 14: ran a few times during the game.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that's definitely one. You know, you went back.

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Speaker 8: Jackson on the hood.

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Speaker 11: Seems like the the empty possessions when they start mounting,

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Speaker 11: it looks like it creates a little bit more frustration,

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Speaker 11: more pressure for you guys to actually get things done.

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Speaker 7: Do you feel that when.

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Speaker 16: You guys go as a unit to the sideline, are

741
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Speaker 16: you trying.

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Speaker 6: To work through that or is it a clean slate

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Speaker 6: every time you get out there.

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Speaker 7: On the field.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you're definitely frustrated, you know, when you

746
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Speaker 14: don't when you come up empty handed, especially you know

747
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Speaker 14: how we started off the game, and you can't play

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Speaker 14: like that as an offense. So you know, there was

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Speaker 14: definitely you know, guys who were trying to be positive,

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Speaker 14: but there's also frustration too, And yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 14: we played better in the second half, but you know,

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Speaker 14: for us to be the team that we want to,

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Speaker 14: we can't play like that, you know in the first half.

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Speaker 7: What do you think changed in the second half? But

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Speaker 7: obviously that first half just ended as almost as guys

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Speaker 7: to fuel about.

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Speaker 6: But what change you think starting the second half the

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Speaker 6: way you guys did?

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Speaker 14: You know, I felt like there was just, you know,

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Speaker 14: some weird things that happened in the first half where

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Speaker 14: it could have done a completely different way on some

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Speaker 14: of the conversions and whatnot. But you know, that's just football,

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Speaker 14: so you kind of have to battle through those things.

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Speaker 14: Just feel like we executed, you know, better than the

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Speaker 14: second half, played faster, you know, but it was just

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Speaker 14: a little bit more decisive on decisions. And yeah, I

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Speaker 14: feel like that was kind of the the reason for

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Speaker 14: why we played better in the second half. Yeah, and

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Speaker 14: then in the player the very line was you running

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Speaker 14: an option on the play or that you took that

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Speaker 14: you did that yourself because the design pay didn't work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I.

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Speaker 14: Said, you know, we had a play that has been

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Speaker 14: working all week and they did get a good job

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Speaker 14: of defending it. And you know, I'm not gonna, like

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Speaker 14: I said earlier, make a bad play worse. I'm just

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Speaker 14: gonna try to get back to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 14: or make something happen and you know, put ourselves in

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Speaker 14: a good situation for for second down.

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Speaker 7: So that was kind of my mentality.

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Speaker 6: Pasting's been two months since you guys last want at.

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Speaker 7: This point, how did the holders for your pass? Kind

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Speaker 7: of just everyb'st its own game.

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Speaker 14: But how tough is if you guys just keep adding

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Speaker 14: up and try to just you know, not let it

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Speaker 14: sink on here a little bit. But it's definitely tough.

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Speaker 14: I'm not gonna you know, talk around it. It's definitely tough,

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Speaker 14: but you know the only thing that we can do

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Speaker 14: is come back in the facility for the next week

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Speaker 14: and prepare even harder and just continue to try to learn.

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Speaker 14: You know, I know that you know, this isn't going

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Speaker 14: to be the case for the future, and uh, things

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Speaker 14: are gonna eventually turn around. So I definitely have that,

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Speaker 14: you know, in my mind, but obviously as a team,

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Speaker 14: we want to get that switched immediately.

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Speaker 9: When you swore that that touchdown Jackson against the Broncos

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Speaker 9: and gave you guys the lead, yeah, I imagine that

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Speaker 9: you you didn't think that everything that has followed since

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Speaker 9: then has been what's followed since then.

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Speaker 7: How do you keep your head of a war? How

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Speaker 7: do you keep the positivity flowing when this thing.

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Speaker 17: Is just spiraling?

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Speaker 14: You know, you just have like, you know, frustrations that

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Speaker 14: that mound up. And you know, for me, I just

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Speaker 14: you know, I try to work harder every day, you know,

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Speaker 14: I f try to you know, turn those feelings and

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Speaker 14: you know, these results into motivation.

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Speaker 7: I I love this game. I love you know, coming

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Speaker 7: to work every day.

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Speaker 14: I love my teammates, So you know, I'm never gonna

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Speaker 14: be somebody that's just you know, discouraged completely and have

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Speaker 14: it have anything to do with my daily habits. So

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Speaker 14: I'm just trying to continue to work harder.

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Speaker 11: Do you are there things that you've learned throughout your

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Speaker 11: career to prevent you from getting.

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Speaker 6: As discouraged as maybe from the outside, and it's seem

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Speaker 6: to be.

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Speaker 16: You know, what do you work on now? You know

819
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Speaker 16: you go home with them tomorrow?

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Speaker 11: How do you make sure that you're not as discouraged

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Speaker 11: as maybe people.

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Speaker 8: Expect you to be.

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Speaker 14: You know, I think I'm I think I'm still learning

824
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Speaker 14: that I haven't gone this long without a winning my career.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 14: You know, you definitely try to obviously learn from the

827
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 14: things that you didn't play well.

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Speaker 7: Enough from and.

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Speaker 14: I'm just trying to I'm trying to just live week

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Speaker 14: to week, you know, and trying.

831
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Speaker 7: To get a little bit of motivational, be a little

832
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Speaker 7: bit of a spark.

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Speaker 14: So, you know, just trying to communicate as positivity.

834
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Speaker 7: As I can. You know, these hurt, so.

835
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Speaker 14: You gotta you gotta try to take it for what

836
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 14: it is and you just you know, try to ride

837
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 14: the troops to to get better for the next week.

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Speaker 10: Aside from family and teammates or are there others that

839
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 10: you try to reach out to you to get their perspective,

840
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Speaker 10: particularly coming off of the buy week, just to help

841
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Speaker 10: you frame some of what you're experiencing right now.

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Speaker 14: MM, there wasn't really anybody that I, you know, reached

843
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 14: out to. You know, I think that you know, I

844
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 14: lost have been you know, pretty simple for the most

845
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Speaker 14: part of just us not being a team that you know,

846
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Speaker 14: finishes consistently in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 7: And I think that that's that's just the reason, that's

848
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Speaker 7: what we have to fix.

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Speaker 14: So, you know, I think that when you watch back

850
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 14: the tape, you you understand why, you know, we're not

851
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 14: winning games, and it's a little plays that you have

852
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 14: to make and the other team is making and we're not,

853
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 14: and we're not making it enough of those, so we

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 14: have to we have to correct that.

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: You think you've you've run the ball these some design

856
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Speaker 4: runs less since you came back from the concussion.

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Speaker 7: What's your input on that and what what's your.

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00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 8: Thoughts on that in general?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a competitor.

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Speaker 14: I mean I want I want the ball in my hand,

861
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 14: so I definitely feel comfortable, comfortable and confident running the ball,

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Speaker 14: But at the same time, you know, there's a lot

863
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 14: of other really good guys on the team who you know,

864
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 14: you know, we got mouths to feed, so you.

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Speaker 7: Know, you just try to do your best of of.

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Speaker 14: You know, doing the right thing for each and every player,

867
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Speaker 14: trying to just still listen EXEQ it's card and.

868
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 7: Have confidence and our guys around me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks great oh or player press conferences that brought to

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Speaker 2: you by meant Life, the official insurance company of New

871
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Speaker 2: York Giants. Whore we break Tiky. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: a little bit at the halftime. How'd you think Dart

873
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: and I'm almost getting tired of this already.

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Speaker 1: As a top point, how do you think Dart.

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Handled the balance of trying to get extra yards and

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00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: been slightly Honestly, I thought he was a lot better.

877
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: He went head first a couple of times, but that

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Speaker 2: was only when there was no danger in front of him.

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Speaker 3: Because that still does protect you in the modern rule. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You're giving yourself up instead of sliding,

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Speaker 3: and it's you're down where you start the slide. It's

882
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Speaker 3: you get the ball a little bit more forward, and

883
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Speaker 3: it's just where your knee hits the ground. But I

884
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Speaker 3: thought there was only one real play where he put

885
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Speaker 3: his head forward to get the first down through contact,

886
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Speaker 3: and that was to get them down in the tight

887
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Speaker 3: red area inside the ten yard line, and he didn't

888
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Speaker 3: really As always was telling you guys, when you get

889
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: ready to get into contact, you gotta get smaller, right,

890
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: you gotta get tighter body control so you're you know

891
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Speaker 3: where you're going to get hit.

892
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Speaker 1: And he did that on that one play.

893
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Speaker 3: He got really tight and small and move forward and

894
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Speaker 3: got to the ten yard line. I don't think he

895
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Speaker 3: took very many hits except for the one where he

896
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Speaker 3: got pulled, which honestly didn't make sense to me because

897
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't his head, it was his neck. They got

898
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Speaker 3: bent a little bit, but there'd be an extra costUS

899
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Speaker 3: and it's the unfortunate narrative about him. And so the

900
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Speaker 3: league and the referees in this game probably overreached a

901
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Speaker 3: little bit, Yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: Question about it.

903
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Speaker 2: And our play press conference brought to you by manlifey

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Speaker 2: first Official insurance Company, the Giants took a time out.

905
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Speaker 2: We'll come back here from abdul Carter in the locker room.

906
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Speaker 2: When we return, Giants loosen to command there's twenty nine

907
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Speaker 2: to twenty one.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the w fan

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Speaker 5: Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 18: This is Abduall Carter and you're listening to Giants football

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Speaker 18: on the fan w f A N and w f

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Speaker 18: A N FM, New York.

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Speaker 15: Mariota in the shotgun set, thanks the app. Back's a

914
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 15: throw under pressure, hit by Carter, unsacked by gutter Ball

915
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 15: came out and I think Washington's on it. They are

916
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Speaker 15: at the thirty eight yard line. But that's the first

917
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Speaker 15: clean sack for our duel.

918
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Speaker 16: Carter this year.

919
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Speaker 15: Mariota in a shotgun set, McNichols to his right, laid

920
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Speaker 15: hand off of McNichols, hit behind the line of truck.

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Speaker 1: Buy up duel Carter.

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Speaker 16: Loss at three.

923
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Speaker 1: Heck of a run stunt there, Buy up duel Carter.

924
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Speaker 16: He lined up over the nose tackle.

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Speaker 8: That's good use of him.

926
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Speaker 1: I sent from the Giant thirty nine.

927
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Speaker 15: For Mariota takes the snap. Nichols gets tackled for a loss.

928
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Speaker 15: Ball came out, picked up on the Giants A duel Carter.

929
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Speaker 15: He laterals into.

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Speaker 1: His teammate Paulson a debo. He's running left.

931
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Speaker 15: He Laddel's into his teammate and finally still running with it.

932
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Speaker 1: It's Holland and he's brought down. He's funny line.

933
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, though, Shenanigan is not matter because Carter was touchdown

934
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Speaker 2: and they are like watching like love trout. Those were

935
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Speaker 2: today's plays of the game, brought to you locally by

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Speaker 2: four to one performance and capability at every turn. Get

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Speaker 2: Ford official truck at SUV of the New York Football Giants.

939
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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter spoke to the media downstairs after the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen.

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Speaker 11: I'm due a terrific game for you today, I believe

942
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Speaker 11: if I'm hearing correctly, the quote for Mike Cathy right

943
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 11: now was he played his butt off like his pants

944
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 11: on fire. What does that mean when your head coach

945
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Speaker 11: says something like that to you, would spa in envited

946
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Speaker 11: the lessons you've had to learn over the last few weeks.

947
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Speaker 18: Yeah, obviously I appreciate the message, but you know, I

948
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 18: feel like if you just got to win and make

949
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Speaker 18: it a lot better.

950
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Speaker 8: So that's all I'm thinking about. Just I wish we

951
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Speaker 8: got to win.

952
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Speaker 11: What was going right for you today?

953
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Speaker 18: Just throwing my job, playing fast, playing hard, as simple

954
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Speaker 18: as that.

955
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Speaker 11: Men so much we had heard that during week you

956
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Speaker 11: had done a lot of extra study, film work and

957
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Speaker 11: so forth. That's a lot of questions. How much did

958
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Speaker 11: some of that stuff apply to today's effort.

959
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Speaker 18: Yeah, definitely helped a lot, just you know, watching film

960
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Speaker 18: with the coaches, me coming in there early, you know,

961
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Speaker 18: talking to them getting Ah, you know, I head started

962
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Speaker 18: a week.

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Speaker 8: It definitely help me a lot.

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Speaker 11: Yea. And how much did some of the other guys

965
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Speaker 11: on the v FILS help keep you focused and motivated

966
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Speaker 11: this week to to.

967
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Speaker 8: Put forth to kind of give me the able? Yeah?

968
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Speaker 18: They they on me, so you know, obviously some of

969
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Speaker 18: the guys caught me out. You know, I had to

970
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Speaker 18: step up. You know, I feel like I did that.

971
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Speaker 18: But like I said, the end of the day, I

972
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Speaker 18: whish we got to win.

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Speaker 7: Barri Yota's pretty uh vulbile. How difficult was it to

974
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Speaker 7: try to.

975
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Speaker 8: Track it down?

976
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Speaker 1: Man?

977
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Speaker 8: Uh? Not so difficult.

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Speaker 13: You got to speak right, definitely.

979
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Speaker 18: Cause I just watch more film. Uh, being better at

980
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Speaker 18: being a probe, being a better teammate. I feel ask

981
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Speaker 18: for somebody needed to focus on, and I feel like

982
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Speaker 18: I had a good start with that this week.

983
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Speaker 7: What stuff was your technique to day?

984
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Speaker 14: Have you really been focusing on trying to improve it?

985
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

986
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Speaker 18: I feel like that's something that just improves each each week,

987
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Speaker 18: weekend and week out. You know, talk to talking to

988
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Speaker 18: my coaches, talking to Barns, TIBs, of those guys.

989
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 8: In my room.

990
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: Just me, keep getting me, keep finding ways to get better.

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Speaker 5: Able in particular, excuse me, anything in particular with your

992
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Speaker 5: you know, hands or anything within your technique to you.

993
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 18: Real Yeah, I can't say nothing too specific, but just

994
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 18: keep getting better.

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Speaker 14: Do you think the increase work and what you did

996
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 14: this week?

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Speaker 16: If I did your play on the field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. And what was uh?

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Speaker 18: I would say just me being a better teammate, of

1000
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Speaker 18: trusting the guys around mean, them trusting me more and

1001
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Speaker 18: I just felt good.

1002
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Speaker 8: Was just coming out here. Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: On the fumble at the end of the game, what

1004
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: what did you see on that play?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

1006
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Speaker 18: I gotta watch it back. I can't wait to watch it.

1007
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Speaker 18: I wish I scored, so I don't know, but I

1008
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Speaker 18: gotta watch it back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I did you think in the moment.

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Speaker 19: That that you were still up or do you think

1011
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 19: you might have.

1012
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Speaker 8: Been down, like I gotta I gotta watch the play

1013
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 8: where the latter will come. I know you ever watched

1014
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Speaker 8: the play, but yeah, I was getting tackled.

1015
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Speaker 18: I saw my teammate open, try to fish to make

1016
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Speaker 18: a play.

1017
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Speaker 16: What's a game like this?

1018
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 7: Just the season you've had, it's like to come out

1019
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 7: and this protus.

1020
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Speaker 8: Uh, yeah, it means a lot.

1021
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Speaker 18: I feel like it was a statement, but it would

1022
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Speaker 18: have been more satisfying if for you got to win.

1023
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Speaker 9: Do you feel these last few weeks are really important

1024
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Speaker 9: for you just going into next season? You know, just

1025
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 9: just you know, if you personally to finished on and

1026
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 9: show to yourself that you can perform and.

1027
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Speaker 18: Now yeah, yeah, for sure, I definitely want to finish strong.

1028
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Speaker 18: That's what I'm doing with these last couple of weeks

1029
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 18: and storms everything about possible to finish strong.

1030
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Speaker 2: So, Tiki, how can abdua quater build on this in

1031
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: the final three games.

1032
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's continuing to grow his repertoire of defensive skill

1033
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: sets and it's being able to play multiple different positions,

1034
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Speaker 3: move around, be valuable in different ways. And we saw

1035
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: that today and we talked about a little bit earlier

1036
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Speaker 3: how sometimes he was lined up over the center, other

1037
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Speaker 3: times he was on the edge. But it's diversifying his

1038
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: pass rushing skill set and he'll only grow as this

1039
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: season goes on. So many people were ready to just

1040
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: chalk him up to be in a bust after the

1041
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Speaker 3: first fourteen game thirteen fourteen games of the season, and

1042
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Speaker 3: it's just not fair to a young player because there's

1043
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: still so much you have to learn. The speed of

1044
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: the game is different, the physicality of the game is different.

1045
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: And whether it was just a rededication or or re

1046
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: understanding of this game as compared to the college game,

1047
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: you felt it today.

1048
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Speaker 1: Top final thoughts from you.

1049
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, everybody thought when the Giants drafted

1050
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: him that he was gonna walk in and just be

1051
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: unbelievable because Giants fans were spoiled because for those old enough,

1052
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: they saw Lawrence Taylor his very first day, like those

1053
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: are once in the generation kind of guys, and Parsons

1054
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 4: was that way with the Cowboys, where he was the

1055
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: best player on the field from the first day he

1056
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: stepped on the field. Clearly, it hasn't worked out that

1057
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Speaker 4: well for Carter at this point. However, it doesn't mean

1058
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 4: that he can't play right and maybe just like a

1059
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: quarterback and other positions, he's gonna have to.

1060
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Speaker 1: He's learning.

1061
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: But we saw what the physical gifts are today and

1062
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Speaker 4: I thought they did a better You know, Carl Banks

1063
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: was watching this a lot more closely than I was,

1064
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: and we'll took a look at the tape tomorrow, but

1065
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: it certainly felt like they figured out multiple ways to

1066
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: use him in this game rather than have him static

1067
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Speaker 4: kind of either on the left side or the right

1068
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: side rushing like and I like that pressure that o'karak got.

1069
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Speaker 4: He didn't get the sack, but they sent both of them,

1070
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Speaker 4: and he commanded so much respect that o'kaake got a

1071
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: clean run on the quarterback.

1072
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Speaker 1: So I think, just hey, build next week.

1073
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: Look you're gonna be playing against a team that has

1074
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 4: a better offensive line.

1075
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Speaker 1: Build upon it. You just build upon it and stack four.

1076
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: Good games together here down the stretch as something to

1077
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 4: catapult you to the next year. But no sense giving

1078
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: up on them, right, I mean, it's been a rough

1079
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 4: first thirteen games.

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Speaker 1: You just stick with it.

1081
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: You'd be patient, and you know, we'll see what scheme

1082
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna play in next year. What the philosophy's gonna

1083
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: be who the new head coach and potentially DC are

1084
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: going to be next year if they go in a

1085
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: different direction. So you know, I think you just wait,

1086
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 4: but today was the first step in a good direction.

1087
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Speaker 1: Guys, give me your look ahead to the Vikings very briefly. Yeah,

1088
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Speaker 1: the Vikis are going to be interesting.

1089
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Speaker 3: We saw them two weeks ago, destroyed the Commanders, and

1090
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: it was Floores throwing dog after blitz after dog after

1091
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: blitz in so many different ways, and it confused. Jayden

1092
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Speaker 3: Daniels ended up getting hurt in that game, Marcus Mariota

1093
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: as well, and they get destroyed thirty one to nothing.

1094
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: So it's going to be a lot that they're going

1095
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: to get thrown their way. And so being smart with

1096
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: the play calling, being smart with keeping yourself out of

1097
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: negative plays is going to be I think the most

1098
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: important thing you can do. We mentioned it earlier, Bob

1099
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: about the twelve personnel. You need to see a lot

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00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: of it next week. One for the blocking advantage, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and look, it's you know, it's a

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Speaker 4: week to week proposition, right, Minnesota's had their own struggles

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Speaker 4: it's not like you lit the world on fire. You're

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Speaker 4: are gonna have to come out and play out here

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Speaker 2: with Giants TV. Dexter Lawrence was in the locker room

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Speaker 2: after the game.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in to him and teach him that.

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Speaker 16: So I think he just gotta keep going, you know,

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Speaker 16: keep trusting.

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Speaker 20: The process and you know, not growing wary of it,

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Speaker 20: and you know, just keep going.

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Speaker 19: Is the show to see the production, you know, from

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Speaker 19: talk a lot about him doing extra work because it

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Speaker 19: helps him this week put together today.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I'm sure it will.

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Speaker 20: I don't know yet, you know, I just had a message,

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Speaker 20: just told him to not grow away with the other

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Speaker 20: other process that you went through, you know, and keep

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Speaker 20: going and keep and keep fighting the thoughts of not

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Speaker 20: wanting to keep going, you know, like the fights, the

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Speaker 20: negative thoughts.

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Speaker 16: You know, that's not gonna help you be a better

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Speaker 16: football player.

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Speaker 20: So we so, I mean, I'm happy that he had

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Speaker 20: his game, he got it, he had his little his

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Speaker 20: little game. But you know, you gotta come back and

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Speaker 20: do it again next week.

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Speaker 16: And that's great to see.

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Speaker 8: How much is that what do you expect from him? Now?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 1: How much is that kind of what you expected from him?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 16: Uh? I mean since day one, since day.

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Speaker 19: One, thatch tax is it disheartening at all when you

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Speaker 19: look up into stands and they're half full?

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Speaker 16: Oh it was cold outside.

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Speaker 20: I I honestly didn't expect many too many people to

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Speaker 7: For Abdula to do what he did today, does it?

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Speaker 8: Uh? Just said a lot to you and.

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Speaker 9: Other leaves on his team that you know he ta

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Speaker 9: could take criticism and discipline and and just responding right play.

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Speaker 16: Yeah for one week.

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Speaker 20: You know it's all about greatness, is you know, doing

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Speaker 20: it over weeks, you know, being consistent.

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Speaker 16: And and that's what he can get to.

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Speaker 20: You know, you just got to keep you know, stick

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Speaker 20: with the process and understand who he is and understand

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Speaker 20: you know, keep that approach to the game every week.

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Speaker 7: That's just a free sense.

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Speaker 6: How tough is it when you guys get four two

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Speaker 6: turnovers in the fourth quarter, but then you still give

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Speaker 6: up that big play obviously, Nick Lauren to how faustrating

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Speaker 6: is and win.

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Speaker 7: Good plays happened, but still the bad players are.

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Speaker 20: That's gonna happen. You know, they gonna make it a

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Speaker 20: play here and there. We just gotta respond, and I

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Speaker 20: thought we did well responding.

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Speaker 1: That's Exter Lawrence after the game.

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Speaker 2: Quiet game for Dex just one solo tackle, one combined

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Speaker 2: tackle for two total. You know, tik I thought his

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Speaker 2: answer about Carter was a good one. Yeah, because they said, look,

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Speaker 2: can this help him? And he goes, yeah, if he

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Speaker 2: keeps doing it.

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Speaker 1: Right, don't think you've made it just because you had

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Speaker 1: one good game.

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Speaker 2: And look remember what he got suspended first, not just spending.

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Speaker 2: When he got bench for that first possession. The next

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Speaker 2: game he was okay. It was the game following that

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Speaker 2: he got taken off the field again for a two

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Speaker 2: series of the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: So can this continue?

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Speaker 2: And we are joined by Paulatino as well, by the way,

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Speaker 2: So you have to do this consistently. This has to

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Speaker 2: become who you are, not just and look we see

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Speaker 2: you know world dads. Yeah, we see this with kids.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they get in trouble doing something. You tell

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Speaker 2: me you gotta do it a certain way. They might

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Speaker 2: do it once, they might do it twice, but do

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Speaker 2: they do it consistently? Should we look in the mirror

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Speaker 2: when we were kids, know, all of us absolutely, one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was a really good answer by that.

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Speaker 3: It was it was, it was, yeah, he did it great.

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Speaker 3: He was great today essentially, but now he's got to

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Speaker 3: do it again next week. And you know, the one

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Speaker 3: thing that you learn as you get older and more

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Speaker 3: mature as a player, and it happens in different you know,

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Speaker 3: timeframe for different players, is that you have to be

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Speaker 3: able to be counted upon, like your team has to

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Speaker 3: know that they can trust you to be the playmaker

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Speaker 3: that you're supposed to be each and every week, and

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Speaker 3: and so this is a great game for abbrder, but

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Speaker 3: don't get comfortable, don't get cocky about it, get better

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Speaker 3: and next week can continue to self evaluate yourself. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's what Dex is talking about. I know

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Speaker 3: he's being talked about this from Brian Burns and some

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Speaker 3: of those other defensive leaders. I'm sure Charlie Bullen, the

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Speaker 3: interim defensive coordinator, is saying those same things. At the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, you got to help him evolve

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Speaker 3: and to the player he's.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to be. With the high draft pick that the

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Speaker 1: Giants spent on him, he tik.

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Speaker 11: I will say the body language from Carter after in

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Speaker 11: the locker room. I was there talking to him. I

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Speaker 11: got the sense that he was being humble about it.

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Speaker 11: He understood this was only one step right now. It

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Speaker 11: was a good one, right, probably good one. I think

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Speaker 11: he also gets the fact that if I start gloating

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Speaker 11: right now, it's not a.

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Speaker 1: Good time now, it's not at all.

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Speaker 3: You just keep your mouth shut, don't respond to anything

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Speaker 3: on social media, and just get ready to play again

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Speaker 3: next week. That's what it comes down to, because it's

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Speaker 3: a big challenge next week. You can get the Minnesota

1277
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Speaker 3: vikings for the Giants. Offensively, defensively, you gotta match that.

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Speaker 3: You gotta force some turnovers. You gotta do what you

1279
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Speaker 3: did in the second half of this game. Give your

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Speaker 3: off intent advantage by being an elite on defense.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's like I said during the pregame show about

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Speaker 11: you have four games now and every guy who has

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Speaker 11: not played up to the back of his football card

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Speaker 11: has to show this team over the next month that

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Speaker 11: they deserve the evaluation they were given before the season started.

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Speaker 11: Prove yourself valuable and right now, step on, Abdul Carter

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Speaker 11: gave himself one check.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that's it. That's it. He's got three more

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Speaker 2: to go. All right, we only got about twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes or so. Nets basketball comes your way at five fifty.

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Speaker 2: So let's try to squeeze in some phone calls. Let's

1292
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Speaker 2: go to James in North Arlington. He's gonna lead us

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Speaker 2: off today. James, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 8: James?

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Speaker 17: Fresh up prayers?

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Speaker 13: Well, your flesh up there. I'm Brown University. I know

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Speaker 13: you have a lot of fudge up there.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, my son is up there. He's yeah, my

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Speaker 3: son is up there. He's thankfully he was safe. But

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Speaker 3: our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of

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Speaker 3: that horrible tragedy up in Providence at Brown University.

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Speaker 1: There was a shootout. They had a mass shooting event.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I just I know you appreciate that.

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Speaker 13: Let's want to say that. Oh you're welcome. I think

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Speaker 13: Jay's game got hurt. Carter, look, well, he's playing better.

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Speaker 13: The quarterback is no doubt about it. He's everything you

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Speaker 13: say he is and well still number one when it

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Speaker 13: comes to the draft pick. I mean, do you have

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Speaker 13: it tomorrow. I'll spend four hours on his.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah, I mean, look, the Jackson didn't

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Speaker 3: play his best his best game, and that's that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: But that's gonna happen for young players. You're gonna get

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Speaker 3: in conditions. And Bob made a big point about this,

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Speaker 3: and he's right. The weather in this stadium is gets wonky,

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Speaker 3: especially in the mid parts of December, and the yeah,

1317
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: the wind is just it's unpredictable. I like it, right,

1318
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: And you see Jackson dart throwing left in particular where

1319
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: sometimes the ball tends to sail because you're really open

1320
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: throwing left as opposed to close and in its sales.

1321
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: And I think the interception that the Jalen Hyatt throw

1322
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: was it was either a little bit too inside or

1323
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: Jalen Hyde didn't get back to the ball and enough

1324
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: with enough urgency, and you make some of these mistakes.

1325
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: He missed a couple of throws to Wandel Robinson that

1326
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: were open. I mean it's it's man coveras essentially running

1327
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: down the middle of the field and the ball is

1328
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: sailing behind Wandelle Robbers. Johnson overshot Theo Johnson as well.

1329
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: So those things make big differences in games, because if

1330
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: you connect on a couple of those, it's a completely

1331
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: different game for this Giant team.

1332
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: It might might even be scores to be fair.

1333
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 11: Even though he was less accurate than what we have

1334
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 11: usually seen out of him, and maybe the wind.

1335
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: Was part of that's not something we worried about with him, No,

1336
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: it was not.

1337
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 11: And the truth is he did also make a few

1338
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 11: other throws that were not caught that could have made

1339
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 11: the difference in winning the game.

1340
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: One in particular, Darius Slayton, you know, right in his hands,

1341
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: there was two in his hands, you know, and you

1342
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: can't drop those passes.

1343
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: The slant, for sure. I thought on the deep one,

1344
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: you guys will probably fight me on this one. It

1345
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: hit his hands. When the ball hits her hands.

1346
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: He got caught the ball, but even though he did,

1347
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: more difficult on him by throwing it to his outside shoulder.

1348
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: He was running inside, he had to turn over the

1349
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: opposite shoulder, which Tik has a receiver. You know, that's

1350
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: a tough thing to do. He should have caught it,

1351
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: but Dark made it harder on him than he had.

1352
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely did. He definitely did.

1353
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: And look, you go back and you want those back

1354
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: because those are they're easy. I'm not saying easy throws,

1355
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 3: but they're easy throws if you put them where they're

1356
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: supposed to be, and it's an easy touchdown, right. I mean,

1357
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: there was at least three balls that could have been

1358
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: should have been touchdowns in this game, but they were

1359
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: just a little bit offline and the receivers had to

1360
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: make difficult catches. Now, with that said, you're a you're

1361
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: an NFL wide receiver. You make the damn play, right,

1362
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that.

1363
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you. Let's go to Ryan in Tarrytown.

1364
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: He's up next that Ryan, Hey, Ryan, Hey.

1365
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 8: What's up?

1366
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 6: Man?

1367
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 8: All right?

1368
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 17: So Jackson Dark seems like he's checked off the box

1369
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 17: for quarterbacks for the Giants, some big Giants. I mean

1370
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 17: he's got he's very smart quarterback, he's got great pocket presence,

1371
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 17: he can scramble. He's got a weak I really believe it.

1372
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 17: And all you guys do is go man to man

1373
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 17: on him. He doesn't have this. I think he's below

1374
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 17: media below on the strength of his arm, and I

1375
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 17: don't think he can make it in the NFL. Go

1376
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 17: check off the box. You know, we got it. We

1377
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 17: need a quarterback.

1378
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's the case. Look, I think

1379
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: he's an NFL quarterback. Does he need to work on

1380
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: the mechanics. I think it's more mechanics than anything. Early

1381
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: in the season and with him starting those deep balls

1382
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: were they were bad, Like a couple of them were short.

1383
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: He had, guys, you know, in the set behind the

1384
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: last level the defense, and the balls come up short.

1385
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: I think he's gotten better with that. It's just a

1386
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 3: matter of doing it consistently.

1387
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1388
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: And he said this in relation to the interception to

1389
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Hyatt. So much of it is just reps. It's

1390
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: just time on task, as Dave's used to always say,

1391
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: and he's got to do a better job of having

1392
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: that comfort. I used to tell the story about Kerry

1393
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: Collins in a Moni tumor. They would spend so much

1394
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: time in training camp. Now you don't get this time

1395
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: in training camp anymore, yep, because they've gotten weak and

1396
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: soft with how training camp is. But carry Collins could not,

1397
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: even joking, literally throw a comeback route with his eyes

1398
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: closed and hit it to a Moni tumor sixteen yards

1399
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: on the numbers, exactly where Moni was coming out of

1400
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: his break and even do this with his eyes closed.

1401
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: And so when he got into a game, it felt

1402
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: rope right. It didn't feel like I got to think

1403
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: about this and I got to calculate it was. It

1404
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: was just routine after routine after routine. And the good

1405
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: quarterbacks do that. They so whenever they get a specific

1406
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: type of throw that they have to make, they know

1407
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 3: exactly what kind of throw they need to throw. There

1408
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: was one to THEO john who was it was running

1409
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: the corner out? Was it THEO Johnson or what I

1410
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: think maye it was Darius Slayton. But if he puts

1411
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more loft on it so that the

1412
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: defender can't undercut it. I mean that's a big gainer.

1413
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean the play was open, but you could see

1414
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: that he needed to just loft it a little bit more.

1415
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: To me, that's repetition mistakes. That's not a he can't

1416
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: make that throw mistake.

1417
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 11: And imagine how much better Dart's production is going to

1418
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 11: be when they add the back shoulder throw right to

1419
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 11: the playbook, which right now they really can't do.

1420
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: Because with the tracy for the touchdown down. But they

1421
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: do it very rarely.

1422
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's not a very big part of their offense

1423
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 11: right now because he doesn't have the familiarity and the

1424
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 11: timing with the receivers yet.

1425
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Right, well, you guys don't want the receivers. Darius Layton

1426
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: spoke in the lockerom after the game. Let's listen to him.

1427
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's part of playing here.

1428
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 21: You know what you already met, Like you know, it's

1429
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 21: Wendy sometimes and you know only he was in and

1430
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 21: out a little bit.

1431
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, we.

1432
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: Can't make these causes.

1433
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 21: You know, you have to go out there and perform

1434
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 21: the elements and that's the best part.

1435
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 8: Of the game.

1436
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 11: As an offense. You guys get the ball back off

1437
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 11: of the takeaways twice down the stretch and then can't

1438
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 11: do enough to convert.

1439
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 7: How difficult does that really?

1440
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 6: You know, we we expect to be.

1441
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 7: Able to go and get points right there. You know,

1442
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 7: defense put us in a good position.

1443
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 8: Twice all the time.

1444
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 21: You know, we had the four shots at him, we

1445
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 21: couldn't get in and the second time, yeah, we couldn't

1446
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 21: have forgot what you happened on that draft, but you

1447
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 21: know we couldn't get points either, So you know, you

1448
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 21: have to have to be better there.

1449
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 9: As a Darius observed your assets before the long one,

1450
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 9: they kind of slipped through your hands.

1451
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 21: What happened now, Yeah, uh, you know I tracked as

1452
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 21: best I could. I tried to run it down. I

1453
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 21: felt like I did run it down. You know, I

1454
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 21: got my hands on it, and uh, I just wasn't

1455
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 21: able to bring it in with the with the guy

1456
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 21: coming out with the contact.

1457
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 7: But you know, I had to try to find a

1458
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 7: way to make.

1459
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: Those One of the Robinson spoke after the game as well, with.

1460
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 11: You guys behind and you guys were able to finish

1461
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 11: it off and get the plays that you needed.

1462
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 7: And difficult was that the score?

1463
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 8: I mean, it's pretty difficult.

1464
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 6: You know.

1465
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 22: Whenever you get in that position, you expect to score. Uh,

1466
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 22: you know, we didn't.

1467
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 11: It looked as though after the touchdown got it to

1468
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 11: one and then you got the ball back, the emotions

1469
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 11: of the momentum on the sideline and even in the

1470
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 11: whole it looked like you guys were all fighting as

1471
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 11: hard as you could and you really had the energy going.

1472
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: But but again the momentum kind of died.

1473
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think once we got that

1474
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 22: last last turnover, whenever we were down one score, we

1475
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 22: had we had all the momentum and definitely felt like

1476
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 22: we were gonna go down and score.

1477
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 8: You know, just didn't execute it.

1478
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 11: How tricky really conditions today in terms of how it

1479
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 11: might play with the ball might play with.

1480
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 22: Some of the passes, I mean, they were definitely the

1481
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 22: deeper balls were definitely a little bit tricky, just you know,

1482
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 22: it would get caught in the way in a little bit.

1483
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 22: But at the end of the day, still got to

1484
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 22: catch the football.

1485
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 11: You know, we've talked about trying to finish strong with

1486
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 11: this team. And again coming up short. I don't know

1487
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 11: how you digest it. I don't know how you continue

1488
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 11: to go week to week. But is there a message

1489
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 11: you can give to some of the other players?

1490
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 8: Man, just keep going.

1491
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 22: You know, we got three games left and it's one

1492
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 22: of these last.

1493
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 7: Three, so appreciate the time.

1494
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 11: Think you think you got on that very last fourth

1495
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 11: down play.

1496
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 16: Did you get bumped? You look like you thought you did.

1497
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, I got bumped.

1498
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 22: It was more so just a miscommunication between I guess

1499
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 22: me and Jackson. I wanted to flatten it often.

1500
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 8: They wanted to go wanted me to go high.

1501
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 22: So a little about it just you know, got to

1502
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 22: talk through some more things to make sure we're on

1503
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 22: the same page at the end of the game.

1504
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 8: Thanks.

1505
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I bet individually this year, I mean, you're arguably

1506
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 9: happened your best season.

1507
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 7: You know there are games left.

1508
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 22: How do you want to finish? I mean, obviously you

1509
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 22: know I want to get get some wins. You know

1510
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 22: how you coming in this locker room after games losing

1511
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 22: and then you know, personally, I don't think there's any secret.

1512
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 22: You know, when it hit that thousand yard marks, So.

1513
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: That is a big decision that Giants have to make

1514
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean, the number is gonna it's gonna be the number.

1515
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: Whatever the number is is going to be important. Wander

1516
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 3: Robinson is a valuable member of this team, and you've

1517
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 3: seen him develop into a.

1518
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: Very reliable player.

1519
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: For Jackson Dart to get the ball to a lot

1520
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: of it's because of the routes that he runs. They're

1521
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: just available sitting in the curl, especially when you're playing

1522
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: the zones. We talk about this often and there's a

1523
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: trust that comes there. But he's also been used, i

1524
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: think a lot more this year than previous as a

1525
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: downfield threat and option.

1526
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 6: Yep.

1527
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: But I think he just alluded to it. You got

1528
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: a single safety, it's probably man coverage or zero or

1529
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. You gotta the quarterbacks, got to

1530
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: know what you're doing, and you got to know what

1531
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback expects you to do. Because Jackson Dart through

1532
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 3: those two balls like they were like there were seam routes.

1533
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

1534
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: Wandell was running it like it was a post host yep.

1535
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: And if he connects on one of those, I mean,

1536
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 3: it changes the game in so many different ways.

1537
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 11: Well, that's more about that intuition between the receiver and

1538
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 11: the quarterback. And I will just quickly say Robinson because

1539
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 11: he's been used on the boundary much more this year

1540
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 11: has greatly enhanced his value. Now he's not just one

1541
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 11: of the best slot receivers in the league. Now he

1542
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 11: has shown he can do more.

1543
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how many people align up for

1544
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: a outside five eight RESI.

1545
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: No, that's true, but it just gives him, but he could.

1546
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: It gives him a skill set that he can now

1547
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: if your two wide receiver sets, he can be on.

1548
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: He's proven. Is your point?

1549
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's a fair point. All right, time out,

1550
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: will come back, take some more calls. Brian burns him

1551
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: downstairs as well. When we return here, Giants fall to

1552
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: the Commanders. On Giants extra point twenty nine to twenty.

1553
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 6: This is Mike Kafka, head coach of the New York Giants,

1554
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 6: and you're listening to the radio home of Big Blue

1555
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 6: the Fan, wf AN and w f AN FM, New York.

1556
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: You're back here on Giants extra point.

1557
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: We'll take a couple more calls at eight eight one

1558
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: zero one nine and tone that's basketball and that's in

1559
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: Bucks no Giannis tonight. So then that's a have a

1560
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: chance here against the Bucks at about ten minutes.

1561
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: Let's see it from Brian Burns down in the locker room.

1562
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 19: I played in the first half pretty on all sides,

1563
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 19: and then somehow at.

1564
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 7: The end of the game, you're you guys are right there.

1565
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 8: This uh is another Sunday.

1566
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, they were executing well in the first first half,

1567
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 12: and you know we got behind and got behind eight ball,

1568
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 12: you know, but it was good to see the defense,

1569
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 12: you know, come up with some some great players and

1570
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 12: turnovers and you know, put office and position to capitalize.

1571
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 8: So that was a good sight.

1572
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 19: And that last six you're talking in the last six minute,

1573
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 19: you guys forced to from us, like people want to

1574
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 19: know if the team's gonna you know, for lack of

1575
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 19: a better war to the team's gonna quit when they're

1576
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 19: two and eleven model unit. That tell you like they're

1577
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 19: still fighting this team for sure.

1578
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 16: What'd you make about dules game?

1579
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Seemed like a yeah, it was.

1580
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 8: Just coming out party. You had a good game, you know.

1581
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 12: I feel like he uh for the most part, just

1582
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 12: a feeling because we didn't watch the film yet.

1583
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 8: I feel like he executed his assignment to to know,

1584
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 8: like for the most part, Yeah, I feel like he executed.

1585
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 12: His assignments most plays, and then he came up with

1586
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 12: some big plays that we needed.

1587
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm proud of him right now, Does.

1588
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 19: That feel like an opportunity a game that slipped the way?

1589
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 19: Like they're in a similar spot to you guys, except

1590
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 19: they had a long losing streak.

1591
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 7: They've been eliminated.

1592
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 19: Like, does that feel like an opportunity that slipped away

1593
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 19: for you guys to in your streak?

1594
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 16: Like, I know you expect to win every game.

1595
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 12: But like, like in that moment I could, did I

1596
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 12: feel like we could have?

1597
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1598
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 7: Like that was a game that you guys could have had.

1599
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was.

1600
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 12: If you go down to see, there's a ton of

1601
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 12: games you could add, you know, but yeah, that's another

1602
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 12: one that you know, Like I said, they got ahead early, and.

1603
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 8: I'm just glad that the team didn't give up and

1604
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 8: was fighting back.

1605
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 7: You know, what's missing?

1606
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 11: Like you, like you just said, there's a ton of

1607
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 11: games that you guys could have had. You know, you're

1608
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 11: not yet blown out a long You're right there.

1609
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 8: What's missing needs to respectfully? Man, if I knew that

1610
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 8: we wouldn't get.

1611
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 12: In this position, but I mean, hey man, we got

1612
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 12: to keep rolling with the punches, keep swinging. At the

1613
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 12: end of the day, this is our job, so we

1614
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 12: have to, you know, show up to show out what

1615
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 12: we can. And yeah, man, I wish I had an.

1616
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 7: Answer as a whole did you take this at all?

1617
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 7: Like these close games? It's moral victories.

1618
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 8: I know you the record is what it is, but

1619
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 8: moral victories at least.

1620
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 12: Nah.

1621
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 8: I ain't in more victories. I'm kind of just in

1622
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 8: the process.

1623
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 12: I like the way, like the process was good as

1624
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 12: far as like, even though we were down, guys would

1625
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 12: still believing, still fighting, still doing their job.

1626
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 8: Nobody had any egos or anything of that nature.

1627
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 12: So that's what I was more you know, impressed with

1628
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 12: and more, And that's what I'm more excited about, more

1629
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 12: so than you know, a more victory, you know what

1630
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 12: I mean.

1631
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: One of the turning points of this game came at

1632
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: the end of the first half. The Giants got the

1633
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: ball back with a minute thirty seconds to go. They

1634
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: were gonna get the ball to start the second half.

1635
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: You might have had an opportunity to have one of

1636
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: those score and then score again double dip. Instead, you

1637
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: give a pubber turn for a touchdown, then you turn

1638
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: it over and you give it a field goal. So

1639
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: instead of double dipping yourself, you have then dubbed them

1640
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: double dip Paul.

1641
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 11: John Coming into this weekend's action, the Giants defense was

1642
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 11: the twenty seventh ranked defense in the NFL by giving

1643
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 11: up sixty two total points.

1644
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: In the final two minutes of the first half. Well,

1645
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: that was this deepensis fault today.

1646
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 11: Though now in this case it was a special team's

1647
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 11: touchdown and an interception that gave up field position.

1648
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: But my point is psychologically.

1649
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 11: Speaking, and Tiki can speak to this too, when you

1650
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 11: give up points in the final two minutes of a

1651
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 11: first half, it's like a kick to the groin.

1652
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just the way it is.

1653
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 11: And in this case, nine straight points makes it twenty

1654
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 11: two to seven going into the locker room. And I'm sorry,

1655
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 11: but that is an incredibly deflating situation.

1656
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: For the Giants.

1657
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 2: You wanted them to get a double dip. They gave

1658
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: up a double dip. Two score was thirteen to seven

1659
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: at that point.

1660
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, of that was some of the decisions that they

1661
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 3: made once they got the ball back. And you know

1662
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: when you when you just keep dropping back and throwing

1663
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 3: Jackson dart and you have some inefficiencies because he was

1664
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: inefficient in.

1665
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: The first half.

1666
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: The credit to the Giants is that they came out

1667
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: in the second half and they go down and they

1668
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: score and get points, so it it mitigated it somewhat,

1669
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: but not nearly enough. He had a chance to go

1670
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: into the half with the lead and instead you you

1671
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: almost double the the the Commander's lead, and like that.

1672
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: That's one of those game management moments that that just

1673
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: is losing football, like you can't you can't allow that

1674
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 3: to happen and expect to be a winning team. There

1675
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 3: was also another one or later when they went for

1676
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 3: it on fourth down right that just it was confounding

1677
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: to me. Your defense had been playing relatively well, put

1678
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: them back deep and and and forced him to go

1679
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: the length of the field. Instead, you try fifty one

1680
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 3: yard field goal with with young Wayku and it's not

1681
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: it's not even on target.

1682
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: Much less had any length of leg.

1683
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: And it's your You're you're one of those You're in

1684
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: one of those situations where you have to trust your player.

1685
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: And I know Mike Coffka talked about this after the game,

1686
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 3: uh saying that was at our line the game. He

1687
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: should you got to rely on him to make that kick.

1688
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: But the operation was new. You had a new holder

1689
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: in this game because Jamie Gillen was out, so Cameron

1690
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: Johnson was the was the holder and did the operation

1691
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: just was was bad And when you when you when

1692
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: you give an advantage to a bad team. The Commanders

1693
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 3: have come into this game losing eight games in a row.

1694
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: A lot of them were close, but they had lost

1695
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 3: eight games in a row. The last thing you want

1696
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: to do is give them an advantage. And some of

1697
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: the decisions gave the Commanders an advantage in this game.

1698
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: Even despite the Giants playing poorly in the first half,

1699
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: they had a chance to go into halftime with the

1700
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: lead and getting the ball. I don't know the mechanics

1701
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: of how they made the decision to go for that

1702
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 3: second fifty plus yard field goal, right, but to that point, Tiki,

1703
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: that end zone, you had already had a missed extra point.

1704
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: Yep, that hit it up right.

1705
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 11: Another field goal of tamp that looked like a Dwight

1706
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 11: Gooden curfat right.

1707
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So already you had.

1708
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 11: To be thinking in your mind, the wind in this stadium,

1709
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 11: the way it's going and that direction.

1710
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: It's not a good beat.

1711
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think any of us felt good about

1712
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: that field goal. No, and it wasn't long. We knew

1713
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: it wasn't long. It was just a lack of faith

1714
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: in the in the kicker or the kicking operation, and

1715
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: it came out to be exactly.

1716
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: What we thought it was.

1717
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: Alright, let's go to Moose in Jamaica quick before you

1718
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: say goodbye, Moose.

1719
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: What's up? Hey, Moose?

1720
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 23: I think what's up? I'll make this play good evening? Yes, yes, yes,

1721
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 23: so yeah. I don't think the Giants are that far

1722
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 23: away from being a winning football team in the future,

1723
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 23: studying next season. It depends on the coach. We need

1724
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 23: a coach that can emphasize some coach some continuity, not

1725
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 23: just in terms of complimentary football, but situational football. Too

1726
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 23: many times on third down we're giving up the first out.

1727
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 23: Too many times on first and second down, we're giving

1728
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 23: up too many yards and making an easy third down.

1729
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 23: Even more so, we need, like I hate to say this,

1730
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 23: but a Bill Belichick type, somebody that specialized on the defense.

1731
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 23: The offense seems fine, it's just a matter of making

1732
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 23: it an issue that we don't give up scores.

1733
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's all leadership. I appreciate your moves.

1734
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: It's it's all about leadership and putting the guys in

1735
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: positions where they feel comfortable making the plays that they're

1736
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 3: going to need to make to win.

1737
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll throw two things real briefly to you.

1738
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 8: Guys.

1739
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: You got about have been a thirty seconds yeare.

1740
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: On defense, you have to be a more physical team,

1741
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: right especially up front. There's just way too many open

1742
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: when he leads, and on offense at special teams, just.

1743
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: More attention to detail. There are too many little mistakes

1744
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: on plays that eventually come back and they fight check the.

1745
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: Right and some of this is just the players themselves.

1746
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: A lot of it is play calling as well. Yeah,

1747
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 3: I think Dexter Lawrence has got to get in a

1748
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: more advantageous position to his kill set. So much of

1749
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: this game it felt like he was just too gapping

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Speaker 3: and holding up at the point of attack and sometimes

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Speaker 3: picking the wrong way and so getting him on the

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Speaker 3: move and making him more viable.

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Speaker 1: I think it is something that they can also look at.

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Speaker 11: The shame of it is outside of the crazy puzzle

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Speaker 11: of the kicking game, the Special teams had been really

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Speaker 11: strong through two thirds of the season, and now in

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Speaker 11: the last two games the coverage units have been termed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're falling apart again.

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Speaker 2: The kicking game has been a struggle all year, trying

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Speaker 2: to you know, consistently made field goals.

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