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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to tonight, so.

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Speaker 2: Let's begin class. It's in session.

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Speaker 1: Franchise Tag Day came and went with a lot of action,

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Speaker 1: a lot of activity today and your Texans making news,

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Speaker 1: not so much in the franchise tag department, but in

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Speaker 1: the signing player department. As Johnny, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: I was having lunch today and news came across that

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Speaker 1: the Texans had reupt with Dalton Schultz tight end for

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Speaker 1: three years. And I am fired up about this. I

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Speaker 1: want to get your gut reaction to it. I haven't

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Speaker 1: listened to a lot today, so I don't know what

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Speaker 1: people are saying about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I'm saying about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, please bring Dalton Schultz back, your Nick Asario, Demico,

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Speaker 1: Ryan's even CJ Strad You're thinking, I've got to have

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Speaker 1: my tight end back.

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Speaker 2: I love brevn Jordan, I do.

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Speaker 1: I hope Christian Contriano does some things for us, There's

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Speaker 1: no question about that. I know there are other guys

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Speaker 1: out there, but you have Dalton Schultz one year in

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Speaker 1: the system. Let's find out what the Encore presentation is

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Speaker 1: going to be like, and I have more to say

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Speaker 1: about him, but what's your immediate reaction.

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Speaker 3: I liked it when I saw three years thirty six million.

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Speaker 3: That's what's reported out there, the franchise tag for a receiver.

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Speaker 3: You and I had this discussion, in fact, we almost

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Speaker 3: in fact, I think hit it one hundred percent. What

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Speaker 3: we were talking about. We said, would you give Dalton

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Speaker 3: Schultz that a franchise tag number of twelve million dollars?

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Speaker 4: Would you give him that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what the apy is in this. Now

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Speaker 3: the salary cap might be different. How they frontloaded, backloaded,

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Speaker 3: all that kind.

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Speaker 4: Of stuff, I don't know. Yeah, but three years thirty

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Speaker 3: I looked at that and went, yeah, absolutely, I I

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Speaker 3: loved seeing it. I loved having Dalton back for another year.

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Speaker 3: He tweeted out or posted or whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: say about X or Twitter is. My buddy called it twix,

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Speaker 3: run it back, Let's do it. He's here for the

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Speaker 3: long haul. And that's what he put in his Twitter,

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Speaker 3: and I thought that was really cool. So I go

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Speaker 3: back to go back to something that Sean Pendergast said,

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Speaker 3: give him credit for this, because I agree with him

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent on this.

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Speaker 4: As little as you can change CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud's ecosystem, Please, do you know that change is inevitable

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Speaker 3: in this league.

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Speaker 4: We talk about it all the time.

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Speaker 3: Demika Ryans has talked about, you know, the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three team is not gonna be the twenty twenty four team.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to be able to keep everything the same.

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Speaker 3: We've seen coaching changes, Coaches have moved on, coaches let go,

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Speaker 3: coaches not retained. Things are going to change. But if

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Speaker 3: you think about now going into your second year with CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud's quarterback, his quarterback coaches stayed Drad Johnson, his offense

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Speaker 3: coordinator has stayed in. Bobby Slowick now one of his

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Speaker 3: you know, Tank and Nico under contracts, so they're going

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Speaker 3: to be here now. A guy that had a decision

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Speaker 3: I felt really really good about Dalton Schultz wanted to

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Speaker 3: come back to Houston, Texas. And I always stand by

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Speaker 3: the back of the like in the back of the room,

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Speaker 4: Of the way of everybody. And Dalton was waiting.

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Speaker 3: He was kind of standing next to me, and so

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Speaker 3: we're kind of chatting and talking and he said, a seven,

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Speaker 4: I said, no, I haven't seen him yet.

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Speaker 3: He goes okay, So he kind of wandered out and

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Speaker 3: waited for him to come in, like waited for him

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Speaker 3: I saw it in OTA's I knew there was a

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Speaker 3: and you bring back a guy that's when Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 3: So now instead of you're starting from ground up, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: This is these the things we were doing.

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Speaker 3: Now we take what we did, we kind of shine it,

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Speaker 3: polish it, buffet, and then move forward instead of like

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Speaker 3: we got to start all the way down at ground zero. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: but you could just keep rolling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: This life is really helpful because Nico Collins under contract,

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell under contract, tech Robert Woods is under contract. Yep,

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Speaker 1: you've got Dalton Schultz back. Dalton Schultz. To me, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I love using basketball analogies sometimes, and I used to

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Speaker 2: Making plays that.

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Speaker 1: Way, Schultz says, comes off the bench and scores a

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Speaker 1: flurry of points. You know, he's he's Vinnie Johnson back

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Speaker 1: in the day. He's one of these guys, right, He's

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Speaker 1: not Jamal Crawford, but he's he's hot off the bench.

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Speaker 1: And look, he might start, he might not. He's out

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Speaker 3: I might age myself a little bit, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: that same timeframe Kevin Mchae when he was six.

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Speaker 1: Man, Oh my god, you are really agent yourself. I

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Speaker 1: love that, But is that not more aproaple. Think about

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Speaker 1: how many drives would CJ seemingly find him two or

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Speaker 1: There were things like that happening. I think Schultz is

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Speaker 1: a very let's heat up the offense kind of player,

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Speaker 1: made clutch plays. I know people have mentioned a couple

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Speaker 1: of drops late in the season. Let's not freak out, folks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the positives here. Here's another one. What

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Speaker 1: were you gonna do if he didn't sign Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he goes somewhere else and he hits the market.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's a week out of tampering and you already of

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz pack. You don't have to deal without bidding

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Speaker 1: other teams. He and his agent. This is a great

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Speaker 1: place to be. This is a good, fair deal. Let's

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Speaker 1: rock Yes, Let's run it back as he said, because

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Speaker 1: what were you going to do, Johnny go into the

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Speaker 1: free agent.

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Speaker 2: Market, draft somebody.

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Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan's still on his football team either way, so

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Speaker 1: that's great, but you need more than that. You can't

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Speaker 1: assume that Teagan Katoriano's going to be healthy. You'd love

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Speaker 1: But I'd love to see him stay healthy for fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: Possibly you had to do this, I think, And if you're.

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Speaker 1: Nick Casario, Demiko Ryans, you make this deal today, what's next?

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Speaker 1: I've got to sign thirty guys. I need to knock

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Speaker 4: To do list.

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Speaker 1: And they did a huge They took care of a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely this was this was like when you think of

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Speaker 3: dang it all right, but I just got to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll feel really good. I feel like this was cleaning

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Speaker 3: the kitchen bringing him back. And so here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: I like, they don't have to. I have been in

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Speaker 4: Brock Bowers fell? What about some of these other tight ends?

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Speaker 3: And I really I really am not in love with

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Speaker 3: but I don't think he's gonna get there to twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And then you got trade up man. You know Schultz,

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Speaker 3: Schultz know CJ. They know one another. They like to

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 4: I like it. No more wasted breath. And here's another one.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out

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Speaker 3: of people were talking about the Mike Evans thing for

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Speaker 3: a long time, and I got it. There's geography from Galvestan,

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Speaker 3: he played at A and M He's you know, eight

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Speaker 3: years or nine years whatever it's been where he's had

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Speaker 4: He's really productive.

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Speaker 3: It's really fun to think of about Mike Evans in

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Speaker 3: this offense. Absolutely, he's getting two years fifty two million.

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Speaker 3: That's an apy of twenty six apy average per year.

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Speaker 4: That's twenty six million per year for a thirty one

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Speaker 3: Right, Let's just say you gave Sakuon Barkley the Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor deal, which is three for forty three R three

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna pay the same apy for Schultz and Barkley

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Speaker 3: that you would have for Mike Evans at a position

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Speaker 3: in which you already have two guys you want to

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Speaker 3: continue to develop in Tank and Nico.

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Speaker 4: Now you tell me what makes more financial sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, I always thought Mike Evans was a luxury, not

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Speaker 1: so much you couldn't afford. I mean, you have money,

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Speaker 1: but that means you're not going to spend it in

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Speaker 1: other areas where you still need to address some things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we are obviously just getting started here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Even a week into free agency, I'll say we're just

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Speaker 1: getting started because I do expect them to sign some

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Speaker 1: after burner thing because you do have to sign thirty players.

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Speaker 2: What did Nick say last week? There?

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Speaker 1: Fifty three fifty four something like that, Right, you think

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Speaker 1: about drafting eight guys, that's a lot, right, maybe six seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: and then undrafted free agents. You're still signing twenty five

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Speaker 1: thirty players here, So they have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do. Shall we go over who was tagged? Because

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Speaker 1: this is notable. Yeah, I heard Adam Schefter say this.

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Speaker 1: I think Sean and Seth play the audio this morning.

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Speaker 1: I thought, is he right? Are they really going to

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Speaker 1: tag Brian Burns and Josh Allen today the defensive end

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen?

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Speaker 2: Yes they are.

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Speaker 1: They did non exclusive on Burns and non exclusive on

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: That means they can shop themselves around, try.

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Speaker 1: To get a very palatable trade with the franchise that

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Speaker 3: Every designation that I've seen is Josh Allen linebacker. Why

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Look, I mean the lines are very blur.

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Speaker 2: Just say edge.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's something that the NFLP and the NFL got

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Speaker 3: It cost him one of their starting corners, Darius Williams release.

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Speaker 3: He was cut.

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Speaker 3: He gets a non exclusive franchise tag. You mentioned that

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Speaker 4: Non exclusive was what happened to Lamar Jackson last year.

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Speaker 3: I put that on him to allow Lamar to go

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Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar gets the transition tag in New England. Now,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get a deal done with him. I would

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Speaker 3: imagine Michael Pittman at the combine. Yeah, Chris Ballard said

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he was just challenging thirty one

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Speaker 4: We'll find out.

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Speaker 3: But he's got the non exclusive franchise tag on Pittman.

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Speaker 3: That tag is twenty one point eight million dollars for

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Speaker 1: There Pittman in the division playing for the Horseshoe YEP

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman is a really good receiver. I don't know

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Speaker 4: Could think of one receiver closer to us. That's more.

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Speaker 4: That's more valuable at twenty two million.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering what are guys gonna do. I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: And now I don't know what they want, and I

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Speaker 3: If you were to sit down with thirty two take

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Speaker 3: Nick out of this thirty one general Managers percent truth serum,

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Speaker 3: and you said you're paying twenty two million dollars to

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Speaker 3: a receiver, either Michael Pittman or Nico Collins, what do

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Speaker 1: Towards nicoll Right, They're gonna take Nico because there's still

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Speaker 1: you know what he is what he is with Nico.

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Speaker 1: Holy crap, that was awesome. What else does he have?

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Speaker 1: Have we hit the ceiling? Maybe not even if we have.

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Speaker 1: If he continues to perform at that level, great. He

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Speaker 1: the air. There's chemistry between those two. All right, you

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Speaker 1: were going on going on to Lagarious Sneed.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Steed signs the exclusive tag, and I heard some

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Speaker 3: rumblings about, yo, what about Lagarious Steed.

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Speaker 4: No, he's gonna stay with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And then the second twenty million, twenty million for Sneed.

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Speaker 1: That's actually for for a corner. I know that's not

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Speaker 1: a bad number, but you're not a terrible knight. I

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Speaker 1: CJ is gonna ripeen eventually and get ready for that deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are looking at, you know, later on

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Speaker 1: sting will and Ceja.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's but.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, that's a that's not a bad problem to

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Speaker 3: I hear that and go, yeah, okay, Well, I mean

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Speaker 3: I Antoine Winfield Junior, he of the Woodlands the University

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Speaker 3: He got the non exclusive franchise tag as well. He'll

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Speaker 3: make seventeen million, and that fits honestly. I mean if

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Speaker 3: just take the number for a seventeen per four for

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Speaker 3: sixty eight for Antoine Winfield, he gives them that bang

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Speaker 3: for their buck, I mean, that would be that'd be

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Speaker 3: Bucks would screw that up. Will Winfield Junior go out

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Speaker 3: a look, maybe he wants to.

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Speaker 4: Come back home.

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Speaker 2: What are they paying Evans.

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Speaker 4: Twenty six apy and.

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Speaker 2: They're paying Winfield seventeen right now.

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Speaker 1: Players, for two players, and you still have to sign

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta think that Baker's going back. There's no

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Speaker 3: Baker's not.

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Speaker 1: What's Baker gonna make? Johnny Baker is due some money.

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Speaker 3: And I'll take Baker Mayfield ten times out of ten

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think the Giants would too at this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Giants whoever Damel chs is with Tommy Deviteah, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at it this way though, it's fascinating with Baker.

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Speaker 2: Under twenty three stands. We saw him right here in

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Speaker 4: Grave dealing.

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Speaker 3: He looked made that thrown it Kate out in the

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Speaker 3: we're gonna lose this.

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Speaker 2: And how do they feel right now?

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Speaker 1: And you know by Lake Erie where oh where they

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, Cleveland has an interest in bringing him back.

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Speaker 4: That would be Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.

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Speaker 3: I saw that tweet and I just I was in

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Speaker 4: I just started clapping really like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: I have a production love that they signed Flacco.

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Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast, he is just you know what, he's just

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Speaker 1: gonna turn off the microphones at twenty four Greenway Plaza

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fantastic. Now, some players that were not tagged.

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Speaker 1: Now, of course, in all those names we mentioned, those

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gernard, who must have miss and Motor. All the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are free agents, big names though around the look

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Speaker 3: A deal done in the next few days, right yeah,

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Speaker 1: Today was just the tag deadline. So you could still

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Speaker 1: sign JG. You could sign JG anytime he's available to sign,

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Speaker 1: but we still have exclusivity. You're the only person, the

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Speaker 4: That is correct, and legal tampering is exactly that. It's

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Speaker 2: It means official until Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: But you got a couple of days to get out

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of agrees to terms, and

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Speaker 2: You don't what Johnny teams are doing it anyway now

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Speaker 4: That's a combine.

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Speaker 1: Why not just say once the super Bowl has been played,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That'd be kind of cool, that would be soon U

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Speaker 3: It was discussed, but we're not tagged to them with

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Speaker 3: so each of the kind of key positions, Like I

439
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Speaker 3: don't think I'm gonna do a breakdown of the quarterbacks.

440
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Speaker 3: I think we kind of know seven is pretty good,

441
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Speaker 3: so we're gonna let him rip it. Sure, so he

442
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: came to sling it, he slang it, and we're gonna

443
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: keep slinging it. So I started with the secondary and

444
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: I started going through some of the potential free agents

445
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Speaker 3: that they might look at.

446
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 4: And then I gave it a.

447
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 3: Doesn't make sense meter like A one would be makes

448
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 3: no sense at all. Number ten it makes perfect sense.

449
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 3: And then I kind of went through and I looked

450
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Speaker 3: at the different options. One of them I looked at

451
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: was Aviy McKinney with the Giants. I get it like

452
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: a three point five. I just think he's gonna get paid.

453
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Speaker 3: He's played very, very well, and I know I don't

454
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Speaker 3: know that that's a great fit, so I went there,

455
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: so I just kind of put him in there. But

456
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Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, Saquon Barkley is going to be a

457
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 3: free agent and I know that is the most talked

458
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 3: about player in this city, and it is just yes,

459
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 3: you should do it.

460
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Speaker 4: No you shouldn't. I just gave you the numbers.

461
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if I don't know if he

462
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Speaker 3: would go with the Jonathan Taylor deal. But if you

463
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,959
Speaker 3: gave the Jonathan Taylor deal, you get he and Schultz

464
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Speaker 3: for the price of what Mike Evans got. So there's

465
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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot to talk about Saquon. Here's the

466
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Speaker 3: one and Seth this brought this up, and I'm gonna

467
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Speaker 3: go back.

468
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Speaker 1: I did a show with Adam Splane. This was I

469
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Speaker 1: can't it was he was back during maybe it was

470
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Speaker 1: during Christmas. I think it was maybe the day after Christmas.

471
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Speaker 3: I did a show and we got to a segment

472
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Speaker 3: at the end of the show and he started firing

473
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Speaker 3: names at me and he said, would you give up

474
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Speaker 3: your first round pick. Now, if you had to do

475
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Speaker 3: like a non exclusive, you know, tag deal, and you

476
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 3: had to make a deal, you had to give up

477
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Speaker 3: your first round pick, would you give up a first.

478
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Speaker 4: Round pick and sign this particular player?

479
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Speaker 3: And we went through a few, and I was kind

480
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Speaker 3: of hamming and on through a few, and then he

481
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Speaker 3: said Miami Dolphins defensive tackle Christian and I was like, yes,

482
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Speaker 3: Well he didn't get Wilkins out of his mouth, and

483
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Speaker 3: I was like, yes, Christian Wilkins.

484
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Speaker 4: Not tagged in Miami.

485
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Speaker 3: And Seth's been talking about Christian Wilkins for a while.

486
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Speaker 3: And I would absolutely love it, and we as team

487
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Speaker 3: content would love it. He would be fantastic. But his butt, Oh,

488
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Speaker 3: Zach Syler, bring him? To bring him?

489
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Speaker 1: I think they should together make up a package to

490
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Speaker 1: those who did not see in season hard knocks.

491
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Speaker 2: Those two really get along well, and I think they

492
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Speaker 2: belonged to.

493
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Speaker 4: Bring him here.

494
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Speaker 1: I don't care, all right, coming up more on that,

495
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Speaker 1: maybe more on the Schultz signing. Where does he stack

496
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: up with former Texans tight ends? And then some will

497
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Speaker 1: also check in with Rhet Lewis from NFL Network Here

498
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Speaker 1: on the show, It's Texans Radio. Let's keep it going

499
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Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access, Mark VanderMeer and John Harris.

500
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Speaker 2: Good evening. Rhet Lewis on the show.

501
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Speaker 1: In the next segment, we caught up with him in

502
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis at the Combine and he's the brother of somebody

503
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Speaker 1: who works here at the Houston Texans. We've said this

504
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: kind of thing before, but maybe some of you have

505
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: missed it, so that's a little bit of a tease

506
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Speaker 1: on this interview, Johnny, Dalton Schultz, look, Owen Daniels is

507
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Speaker 1: the best tight end of the history of the franchise.

508
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that that's correct.

509
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Speaker 1: But Dalton Schultz has a ton of talent here, and

510
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Speaker 1: the Texans have had some good tight ends, a ton

511
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Speaker 1: of talent. He has his best season ever in terms

512
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Speaker 1: of yards per reception. That was a really cool thing

513
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Speaker 1: to say for Dalton Schultz here last year, and I

514
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Speaker 1: think that we said it. This keeps a good portion

515
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Speaker 1: of the ensemble together when you looking at Tank Dell

516
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: Nico Collins having a tight end there. And now I'm

517
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: wondering what they're going to do in the backfield. Does

518
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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary return on some sort of deal, Do they

519
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: look in another direction, does Devin want to hit the market.

520
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 1: These questions have existed since the season ended, and they

521
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: still exist, but they knocked down a big bowling pin

522
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Speaker 1: today in getting Schultz back in the fold. You were

523
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Speaker 1: talking about Christian Wilkins on the D line before the break. Look,

524
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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins is a free agent. You have to address

525
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackle here. You have some good players in the building,

526
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, the Lae Collins among them. And

527
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I love Kurt Heinisch and you know that. But Khalil

528
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: Davis exited, not exited, but he's available via free agency

529
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Speaker 1: starting next week. You have a lot of work to

530
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Speaker 1: do still for this football team. Linebacker, What are you

531
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Speaker 1: going to do there? We all love the development of

532
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Speaker 1: Christian Harris Henry Toe of toe, but are we going

533
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Speaker 1: to see something here in terms of a signing of

534
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Speaker 1: Blake Cashman.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

536
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Speaker 1: They might have made offers already that we don't know about.

537
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Speaker 1: This stuff doesn't really play out in public the way

538
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Speaker 1: you think it might. As far as the sausage being made,

539
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: you only hear about the sausage once it's constructed, once

540
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: it's made, once it's grilled. Once Yeah, you don't know

541
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Speaker 1: not grilled. Grilled is you don't have to get all out.

542
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Speaker 1: Will is what we do in the fall. Once it's

543
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Speaker 1: in the sausage casey, I'm gonna you know what, sausage

544
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Speaker 1: analogies only go so far.

545
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Speaker 2: We're gonna stop this one right down.

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Speaker 4: Well again, how men times you have to say this?

547
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Speaker 1: And I know, but it almost goes out saying but

548
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Speaker 1: you kind of have to, like, hey, you got some

549
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Speaker 1: cap space.

550
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Speaker 3: You got a quarterback on a rookie deal. So I'm

551
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Speaker 3: not saying you go out and you spend and you spend.

552
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Speaker 3: But I just thought about this with you when you

553
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Speaker 3: said they've got a lot of work to do. Imagine

554
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Speaker 3: if Nick Cassari walked in and you're like, hey, Nick,

555
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Speaker 3: you've got.

556
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Speaker 4: A lot of work to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that, not to his face. He's

558
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Speaker 1: probably heard that, but he knows that he does exactly.

559
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Speaker 3: He knows that he understands what it takes to put

560
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Speaker 3: together a ninety man roster. And you mentioned some of

561
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Speaker 3: those key positions, and as you were going through those positions,

562
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Speaker 3: I started thinking in my head, what's in free agency?

563
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Speaker 4: What's available free agency? And now we know, given the tags.

564
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Speaker 3: Now we know who's gonna be available, and so thinking

565
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Speaker 3: about it that way, like, Okay, who's available in free agency?

566
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned even's tackle. Who's available in free agency? Okay,

567
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Speaker 3: well there's Chris Jones. Well, I think the Chiefs are

568
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Speaker 3: going to get a deal done. They're gonna do whatever.

569
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Speaker 4: I think.

570
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Speaker 3: Sal said something that was really interesting last night when

571
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Speaker 3: we talked to him, Salacopaccio, our good friend for Buffalo

572
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: host on WGR, silent reporter for the Bills. He said

573
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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean had made a comment about how they would

574
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Speaker 3: go for it for as long as they had Josh Allen,

575
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Speaker 3: and I thought that was interesting, like, oh, okay, that

576
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Speaker 3: they were wins, that's their window, let's let's go, let's

577
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Speaker 3: do it. And I think the Chiefs are kind of

578
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Speaker 3: like that with Mahone and Jones. They're gonna go for it.

579
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Speaker 3: They'll put a bunch of rookies on the field. But

580
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Speaker 3: if they got Chris Jones, game changer up front, and

581
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Speaker 3: then they've got the offensive line they've got in front

582
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Speaker 3: of Mahomes, plus Mahomes plus Kelsey, they're gonna go for it.

583
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Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna bring back Jones so he's

584
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Speaker 3: in there. Christian Wilkins is a guy we talked about

585
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Speaker 3: last segment. I think Christian being in there is awesome.

586
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Speaker 3: Sean Rankins our guy. I'd love to bring bring rank back.

587
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: And he just got better and better every week, and

588
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: he played through a number of injuries and played well

589
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: that game against Cincinnati. A game was on NFL Network

590
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Speaker 3: the other day. I can't remember what day it was.

591
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Speaker 4: It was just on. I saw the second half is

592
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Speaker 4: on it, and I watched it through the career.

593
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Speaker 3: I could get to it, and I got it on

594
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Speaker 3: my surface. I got it on NFL dot Com, but

595
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: it was on and I just left it on. I

596
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: just like laid on a couch watch it through the commercials.

597
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: Everything was great. And Rankins sack before the Tyler Boyd

598
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: drop is huge. So there's so many different options that

599
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: you have from a free agent standpoint defensive tackle. I

600
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: think the draft is okay, he's great, It's okay. Linebacker

601
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: free agency okay, it's it's alright. The draft is about

602
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: the same. It's there's no first round linebacker this year,

603
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: which is unusual. There might be one that gets in there,

604
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: but you know, it's got some decent depth you get

605
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: to the secondary. Now you're talking because I think corner

606
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: wise free agency it's okay. But I feel like corner

607
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: wise in the draft is top notch. It is unbelievably

608
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Speaker 3: deep at corner safety. I think it's okay. You just

609
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Speaker 3: added two of them today.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks cut both Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams.

611
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Speaker 4: Wow, both of them. And Will Disley the tight end.

612
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Speaker 2: Can Adams still play.

613
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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

614
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Speaker 3: How many games do you think Jamal Adams has played

615
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Speaker 3: the last two years combined?

616
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Speaker 2: Oh, he's missed a lot.

617
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: Ten? Yeah, ten. Quandre Diggs hasn't missed a game in

618
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Speaker 4: three years. So if you had to do one.

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Speaker 3: I think Digs would be would be interesting to look at.

620
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Speaker 3: He's from Angleton, University of Texas. Jamal Adams is from

621
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Speaker 3: Taxis from Lewisville. But he wanted to tell us you.

622
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Speaker 3: I think you kicked the tires. I think you kicked

623
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Speaker 3: the tires on XAVI and Howard. I think you kicked

624
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Speaker 3: the tires on guys are twenty nine thirty. I mean

625
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 3: you just Howard's gonna make twenty million dollars a year, right.

626
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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's any way you can get that,

627
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: really if he does, if he gets.

628
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: That he started one, he started one. Mark, he's four

629
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Speaker 3: years removed from his all pro season. We had ten interceptions.

630
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Speaker 2: Is this name brand recognition on my part?

631
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Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

632
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the brand instead of that that's under

633
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: the hood here exactly. You're looking at Blockbuster, and now

634
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: we need Netflix's kids.

635
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: Driving around going, John, what's block Blockbuster?

636
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Speaker 2: I take exception of that.

637
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Speaker 1: I might be looking at red Box, but I'm not

638
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Speaker 1: looking at blocks Okay, yah, yeah, right, a little bit better.

639
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Because the red Box is still around. I still see

640
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: red Box. You know.

641
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be, you know, discriminate against age

642
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form. But you know, last

643
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: year you had, you had older safeties. You know, Steven

644
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: Stephen Nelson twenty nine thirty whatever he was. He missed

645
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: a couple of games, but pretty pretty durable.

646
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you.

647
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: Can have that luck all the time, you know. I mean,

648
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: Jimmy obviously didn't play as many games as you want

649
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: him to. Nelson played fifteen sixteen. To be clear, Jimmy's

650
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: still under contract. Jimmy still a contract.

651
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Speaker 1: Not is not you need I mean when I was

652
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: rattling things off earlier.

653
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Speaker 2: You need a corner, period, you need a star.

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00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: Here's your corner depth chart right now.

655
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Speaker 3: Not making any comments about player, here's your corner depth

656
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Speaker 3: chart right now. Derek Stingley, Kadar Holman, Well that's what

657
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: no D'Angelo ross right yeah, well yeah, Danzel Ross two.

658
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: I always thinking of Danzel is kind of a nickel like.

659
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised that they gave Dangelo some reps

660
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: of nickel, you know. But yet in another word, I

661
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: forgot DANZELO ri get.

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Speaker 1: Where you're coming from, right, You're not if you had

663
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: to play Sunday you need a corner.

664
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Speaker 3: You did give Troy Pride a futures contract out another

665
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: Dame Troy Pride junior, and I think there might be

666
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: something there looking good looking athlete, but the point is there.

667
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: The point point is you just don't have a lot

668
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Speaker 3: at corner.

669
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Speaker 1: Okay, I promised this. Now we talked about Dalton Schultz.

670
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: Where does he stack up among Tuxan's tight ends. Well,

671
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Speaker 1: with the fifty nine receptions last year, five touchdowns, the

672
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Speaker 1: fifty nine catches, Owen Daniels had three seasons above that,

673
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: but he's the only guy. That's the second most as

674
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Speaker 1: far as individual players to hit that fifty nine catch

675
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: mark in the history of the franchise. So fifty nine

676
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: to the most, what if Orwitz and Griffin have they

677
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: had like fifty seven and fifty four that one you had, Yeah.

678
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Speaker 2: They didn't get there. They didn't get.

679
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: Sixteen and sixteen. They had that year where Brock would

680
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: throw to them and not Dion for whatever.

681
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: And I had that.

682
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Speaker 2: Somewhere, but I don't have it up on my screen

683
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Speaker 2: right now.

684
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Speaker 1: They didn't hit fifty nine, either of them didn't do

685
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Speaker 1: it fifty nine, but as a group they had their

686
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Speaker 1: best tight end receiving performance ever.

687
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Speaker 3: So you look at Od's numbers right now, I've got

688
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: Od here. If you so, what are the what were

689
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: the so you said he had three years of fifty

690
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Speaker 3: nine or more.

691
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Od had sixty three and oh seven. How about

692
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: that in three eleven. That was a five hundred season,

693
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Speaker 1: And that was a arian. Foster was not a glint

694
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: in anybody's eye here at that point. Exactly two years

695
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: later he shows up, but late in that season eight

696
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: he had seventy In eight they were a top four offense.

697
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Steve Slayton went nuts o D had seventy catches that year.

698
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: That is strong, And in twelve he had sixty two.

699
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Speaker 2: Then he was gone. In fourteen he was here at thirteen.

700
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Speaker 4: So I'll ask you this question.

701
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Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy catches is the high water mark for a

702
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: tight end. I know for seventeen games. I get that

703
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: he's not passing it. You don't think now.

704
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: I think he gets close.

705
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: But Johnny, there are a lot of places to put

706
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: the football. CJ's goetta spread it around. I think that

707
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: I have other thoughts on the length of the season.

708
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I think it's not always the worst thing in the

709
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: world if a guy misses a game or two, and

710
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: hopefully he's not so bad. But maybe you heal some

711
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: other things up in addition to healing whatever you need

712
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: to heal to get back on the field, if you

713
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, I think the availability for

714
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: seventeen games is a lot to ask for in today's NFL.

715
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I just do It's just the way it is. You know,

716
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: we talk about load management in the NBA and everything.

717
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I would be for an idea maybe that says sit

718
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: out a game or so in order to just preserve

719
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: the body.

720
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: But let's not go there right now. And I want

721
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: to have that debate.

722
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: But it's a care to guess where Dalton Schultz sits

723
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: on the all time receiving list for the Houston Texans.

724
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: This is kind of interesting to.

725
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: Me, probably higher up there than you would think.

726
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: Thirty first, it's.

727
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: Amazing season, it's amazing, fifty nine catches.

728
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, that was in yards Reception's thirtieth.

729
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Nico, by the way, on the all time receiving

730
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: chart is eleventh.

731
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Speaker 4: Whoahoa whoa. Nico's eleventh.

732
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Speaker 1: Nico is eleventh. Nico next year, So Nico's out one

733
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty catches. Let's say he gets one hundred,

734
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: he'll be top five all time. Wow, in Texans history.

735
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Because it's Andre Johnson obviously, Then Hop who six thirty two,

736
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Andrea has over one thousand catches. Hop has six thirty

737
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: two for the Texans. Then it's Od Kevin Walter and

738
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Arian Airy fifth my all time reception list for the

739
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. All right, that's gonna do it for this segment.

740
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Rhett Lewis, we caught up with him in Indy. That

741
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: is coming up here on Texans All Access the final

742
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: voyage of the evening here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermer

743
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: and John Harris with you now. We talked a bunch

744
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: about Dalton Schultz and franchise tag Day in the first

745
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: couple of segments, and this entire program will be available

746
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: on podcast in podcast form soon enough on iTunes, Spotify,

747
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot Com, the Texans App, all of it.

748
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: Right now, let's visit with Rhett Lewis. Johnny and I

749
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: caught up with him at the Combine RHTT. You know

750
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: him from NFL Network, NFL Total Access, a bunch of

751
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: other stuff. Does that Sunday afternoon show while the games

752
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: are going on. Very cool, and here's our visit, RHTT.

753
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: How's it going.

754
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: Great to see you.

755
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: Always great to see my Texans family. In fact, actually

756
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: got to see a member of my actual family was

757
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 5: also part of your Texans family.

758
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 4: We bumped into her as well.

759
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: There you go, Morgan, my sister is get to see

760
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 5: her about twenty minutes before she had to get out

761
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: of town and go back to Houston. So it was

762
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: always always nice to see the world's collide a little bit.

763
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get her title wrong, but it's something like

764
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say director of player Development, but I don't

765
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: know if.

766
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Speaker 4: It's that she deals packed.

767
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, she's on that, she's on team Impact.

768
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, and does it great just get stuff done?

769
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's just like chief gets stuff done.

770
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: You know something, you go to her.

771
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Speaker 5: I thought it was really cool and it just tells

772
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 5: you what a what an absolute star you guys have

773
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: in quarterback CJ Stroud him standing up there after winning

774
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year and name drop in everyone that

775
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 5: helped support him this season. Morgan was one of them,

776
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: Dylan was one of them. That whole crew, the training staff,

777
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 5: the equipment staff, like not everybody does that man, especially

778
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 5: as a rookie. To understand that impact is I don't

779
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: know if I could remember everybody.

780
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: I know, I'm the same Will Anderson did that.

781
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: He did his closing press conference, talked about the people

782
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: that were so helpful and how he.

783
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 4: Makes a point to talk to the cafeteria.

784
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: Crew and everything is incredible, And I mean that means

785
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: so much the people in the building to just hey,

786
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Speaker 3: they know that we matter.

787
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: And it's true.

788
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Speaker 3: I mean we don't matter a whole lot, but we

789
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: do matter a little bit and the things that we do,

790
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: and it was just really cool. And when obviously CJ

791
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: just you know, shouting out to people and I know

792
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: that Dylan and Morgan have meant a lot to him

793
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: and a lot to the team.

794
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 4: That's really cool.

795
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: But for from that aspect rhet the fact that you

796
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: can't be biased, but are you a little bit because

797
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: Morgan is there? And then yeah, you kind of like

798
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: fueling the success because she's having that success the team is.

799
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: It's it's impossible not to. We are a we are

800
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: a football family. We are an NFL football family and

801
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 5: have been. I think Morgan and I started our NFL

802
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 5: journeys at the same time same year, so she's got

803
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: her tenth year kind of in the tenth season in

804
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: the books. I just finished my tenth season at NFL Network.

805
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: My dad got forty two seasons, so we were combined

806
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 5: at sixty two NFL seasons in the family. So yes,

807
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 5: family loyalty is a big deal for us, and it

808
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: was and it still is with Houston.

809
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: Red Lewis with US NFL Network. Talk about your father

810
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: for a moment what he did.

811
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Speaker 5: So my dad was a head athletic trainer in the

812
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 5: NFL thirty two years with the New Orleans Saints, had

813
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 5: two years with the then Washington Redskins now Commanders, of course,

814
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 5: and then finished his career with the Detroit Lions. And

815
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: I think went through twenty six coaching changes in this

816
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: I'm exaggerating, but not by a lot. Was part of

817
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 5: the oh and sixteen season with the Lions. He has seen,

818
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: He has seen a lot. But and he would tell

819
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 5: you this too, man, This is a relationship business. And

820
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: those relationships you make with a team and an NFL

821
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 5: franchise in a calendar year, within a season, stuff that

822
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: lasts a lifetime. And so I've been fortunate to kind

823
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 5: of be a fly on the wall and some of that.

824
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: And I know that's part of that's rubbed off, you know,

825
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: my sister and me as well.

826
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Rhet we were talking about andrews Cillian a little bit.

827
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought hack. I thought you

828
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: were at the Super Bowl too. So when I asked

829
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: the same question to ask him Las Vegas as the

830
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl host, what was your what was your overall

831
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: thought from that experience?

832
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 4: So I thought it was pretty cool.

833
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: You know, I think that it's a city built for entertainment,

834
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 5: so it makes some sense. I think that some of

835
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: the inherent you know, rules are are tough in that city,

836
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: with the way that the NFL wants to protect the

837
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: integrity of the game, and and for those that attended

838
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: that are still active in the NFL, I think that,

839
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: you know, I know that some of that stuff was

840
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: kind of relaxed a little bit, but it's uh, I

841
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: think it's cool. I think it'll get another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

842
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: why not? Yeah, I mean it's kind of built for

843
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: the big event exactly exactly now, I will say that,

844
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: and I am a little biased here, but New Orleans,

845
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: right should host the Super Bowl once every four years

846
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: at minimum?

847
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: All right, So tell the listeners why is it? Because

848
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: it's all compact, you can walk everywhere in addition exactly right.

849
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Speaker 5: Word, In addition to having the best food and beverage,

850
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: depending on whatever your beverage of choice is within fingertips

851
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 5: your fingertips at all times. To be able to walk

852
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: up and down the streets of New Orleans with a

853
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: beverage in hand is also a very unique, unique aspect

854
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: of of why the city is great. But yes, it

855
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: embraces football loves football, And there's just so much culture

856
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: and so much history that you can absorb while you're

857
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: there trying to absorb football too. Everything's right there. There's

858
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 5: so many hotel rooms like they've got and you've got everything,

859
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 5: and it's just it's all in that one centralized location.

860
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 5: It's not like, you know, like Miami. It's a great

861
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: place to host the Super Bowl and to be in February,

862
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: But are you going up to Miami Gardens? Are you

863
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 5: going up to Fort Lauderdale? Are you going to Miami Beach?

864
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like you could spend an hour in the car,

865
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: you know, do that in New Orleans, Red, I just

866
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: realized you and I have similar fingers, but you got

867
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: a mallet. Yeah, it happens if you try to catch

868
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 5: a slant like this. Oh so it's been at what first?

869
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: Right there? I just realized that. So wait, so you.

870
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Played football correct, and that's how you got that?

871
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: Yeah? This is uh, this is uh Lands Airlines.

872
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 3: Brother who did this, who won't like me? Yeah, drove

873
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: me into a mailbox. But that's the way it goes.

874
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: He did drove me into a mailbox. I would love

875
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: to say that's how I got it in a football game,

876
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: but it actually didn't happen there like that.

877
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 4: Uh, it's always him, It's always his airline family.

878
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked a little bit about, you know, the

879
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Texans at CJ and the success. But just from your perspective,

880
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: how rare to see a rookie have that success And

881
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: there was so much talk at this time. I think

882
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: we talked to you last year. I mean, I don't

883
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: know if we talked about CJ or whatever the case was,

884
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of noise around. You know, Bryce

885
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: is too short, CJ's you know, people didn't believe in CJ.

886
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: Obviously was gonna end up going second in this draft.

887
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: To see a rookie have that kind of year, it

888
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: feels like, I mean, I don't know, and Houston like

889
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: if we've really truly gathered and grasped how great that was.

890
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: But from your perspective, you know, Nashally, you know, seeing

891
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: games every single week, were your kind of thoughts as

892
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: you're watching him go through that STA It.

893
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: Was the first tape I wanted to watch every week

894
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: really without question and watching it, you know, watching the

895
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 5: way that this team aggressively pushed the ball down the field,

896
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 5: like on offense with a rookie quarterback. You're like, I thought,

897
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: we're supposed to protect him. We're not supposed to let

898
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: him throw it beyond ten yards and like Bobby's like

899
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: bombs away and when you got Nico and Tank Dell

900
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 5: and like that. I mean that crew that's there to

901
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: run under hi. I mean, like I remember watching I

902
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: was I can't remember exactly which game it was. I

903
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 5: want to say it was like week three or week four, Uh,

904
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: and like we're watching a deep ball. Maybe it was

905
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: a Jacksonville game. Yeah, and it like I'm watching the

906
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: end zone copy and I'm just like enamored with watching

907
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: the shadow of the ball on the ground and the

908
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: way it like curved right into Tank's hands. Like it's

909
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: just there was something so special about the way that

910
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 5: he's able to place the football wherever he wants on

911
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: the field diagon that see it and then execute it. Man,

912
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: it seems simple, but man, it is so complex and

913
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: it's it's it was super fun to watch.

914
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: You brought up a good word. It's pretty. It's pretty too.

915
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: Oh it's pretty to watch. You're like, what and here's

916
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 4: the other thing. There was a week where I was like, God.

917
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: Dang, that Texas receivers are I mean like they are

918
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 5: running with the football after the catch, like I just

919
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: kept seeing it, kept seeing it, and watch them like, God,

920
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: CJ's painting this guy. These guys were They're able to

921
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: catch it and then go make plays. Right, there's the

922
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 5: difference between completing passes and then allowing your receivers an

923
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: opportunity with your ball placement to continue to make plays.

924
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 5: And so I went back and I was like, I

925
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: wonder if they led the league in the yards after

926
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: catch this week?

927
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: Sure enough they did.

928
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: And it's and it's just like so when you're throwing

929
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 5: it deep, you can do that, and then when you

930
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 5: don't have when you can let your receiver go make

931
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: a play.

932
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: It gives you so many options.

933
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: But rad Lewis with us NFL Network, all right, when

934
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: you're doing a show, you have the whole league to

935
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: talk about, which is great because you have this gigantic

936
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Schmorgas board of topics.

937
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you need to pick the right ones.

938
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: How hard is it to pick the right ones without

939
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: being repetitive over some of the beaten into the ground stories.

940
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: Well, we can't do Taylor Swift this week every week.

941
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 5: We or can we right, it's the gift that keeps

942
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 5: on giving. Depending on who you ask, I would say

943
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 5: it is a constant challenge. But the thing that I

944
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: love about it is that I can see something from

945
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: a game and you're like, God, you know, like the

946
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 5: YAK thing, Like I don't know how many how many

947
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 5: you know, topic bars, you know said Texans led the

948
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: league in yak this week, like on you know, ESPN

949
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 5: or NFL Network that week. But it was really interesting

950
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: to me. And so I think you can find those

951
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: little things that make, you know, the conversations about a

952
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: team or about a game a little bit more unique

953
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: than just hitting the you know, the headlines.

954
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: And so a lot of stuff.

955
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 5: Comes from watching the games, you know, the day after.

956
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 5: A lot of stuff comes from what I do on

957
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: Sundays in our NFL Game Day Live Highlight Show, which

958
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 5: runs from you know, the moment the first ball kicks

959
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: off on Sunday until you know, the afternoon games kick

960
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 5: off and we're just doing constant we're essentially red zone

961
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: on about a ten second delay and so, and we're

962
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: actually talking about the games, not tossing to the announcers

963
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: like that hacks got handsOn and so so we're actually

964
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: talking about the games. You get restroom breaks. I do,

965
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: but that's that is different. I do from time to

966
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: time very minimal, minimal, park minimal. But it allows me

967
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: to kind of like formulate a thought process like, oh, shoot,

968
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 5: I remember I called that dude's name ten times in

969
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: this game, Like let me go back now and watch

970
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: why that was really happening. So what I do on

971
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 5: Sundays allows me to on Mondays and throughout the week

972
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: to have a better idea of what's going on.

973
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: Right when I'm calling a college game, yeah, they what

974
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: are we doing a halftime? They're like, oh, we're going

975
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: to do the highlights. I didn't think I would have

976
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: more fun than going through highlights and like, I don't

977
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: know what the highlights are going to be because I'm working

978
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: with some crews that like they just like we have

979
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: a package, roll with it. I'm like, okay, I have

980
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: more fun doing that. I think it's such a blast

981
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: to go back and oh, well this and oh okay

982
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: this is the highlight here. Yeah, how much fun is

983
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: it to actually go through and go through those highlights man,

984
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: and and do it the way you're doing it.

985
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: It's it's super cool. And it really keeps on your toes,

986
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 5: Like it really does make you feel like you're calling

987
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: a game the way that we do it on on

988
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: Game Day Live on Sundays, because you know, producers in

989
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: my ears like, hey, something happened in Texans Colts. We're

990
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 5: going there. Next thing. We go there, and I'm like,

991
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: all right, I can't wait to see.

992
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: What it is. Yeah, you know, yeah exactly.

993
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 5: And so it's it's really neat to kind of get

994
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 5: to do it that way into absorb it.

995
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: So from a business standpoint, and there's a good answer

996
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: for this. I have watched the show and I love

997
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: it because, yeah, you are able to sort of stick

998
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: with things.

999
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: A little bit more.

1000
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: And Opine expand why not just run Red Zone on

1001
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: NFL Network on Sunday afternoon?

1002
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, Mark, I mean, somebody's gonna make some

1003
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 5: money for right commercial.

1004
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: Commercial?

1005
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: This is always shocking to me.

1006
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Red Zone is is a phenomenon that is unequaled in broadcasting.

1007
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: Guys.

1008
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Mark, let's let's talk other than by your show.

1009
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: I mean, let's talk about with what Hanson does here.

1010
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Like I love Mark found that he is his.

1011
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: Is a machine, right and he has the same breakfast

1012
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 5: every day. He doesn't pee for eight hours.

1013
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

1014
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: But what I mean like he gets a toss to

1015
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: the game crew, right, he's like, oh, let's go to

1016
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: let's go to the Texas, uh, you know with and

1017
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: Joe Buck. I'm like, well, Scott, you know what, I

1018
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 5: actually have to tell everyone what's happening. Okay, I don't

1019
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: just get to sit back and watch it like, yeah,

1020
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: you know, but I play around. Scot's amazing and Red

1021
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: Zone is an incredible product, and there's you would you

1022
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: guys would not believe the amount of staff and people

1023
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 5: that are dedicated in NFL network to making that thing,

1024
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: saying it's it's an incredible operation.

1025
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: It's professional channel second only one, Yeah, second only one.

1026
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: But no, you brought up a great point. You have

1027
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: to still underline that's going I.

1028
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: Do play by and I've got an analyst who chimes

1029
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: in on the replay and tells everyone why we saw

1030
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: what we saw.

1031
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: And there's a long show.

1032
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: And then at six thirty we go to Chris row

1033
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: that's right, game see, because that's that's our that's our tradition.

1034
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: We watched our game.

1035
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then going to his office and then there

1036
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: it is right in the office, and we'll talk about

1037
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: our game and we'll see it on there. Yeah, let's

1038
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: let's talk about the game itself. Patrick Mahomes, Is anybody

1039
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: in this building in the next few years gonna win

1040
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl that's not named Patrick Mahomes and.

1041
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: The chiefs man. We're sitting right here, aren't we? In

1042
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: here till these Texans banners?

1043
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that's the next I mean, like

1044
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: with the unprecedented success for first year quarterback at a

1045
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 5: first year head coach together to go win a playoff game, uh,

1046
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: in their first year. I mean, like I said this

1047
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: to to Drew a little while ago, I don't know

1048
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: that there is a team in this building or in

1049
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 5: the league that has higher expectation than the Houston Texans

1050
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: and a better opportunity to meet those expectations in year

1051
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 5: two with this group and only get better, guys. And

1052
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 5: I know that's a constant battle that Nick Cassio and

1053
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 5: his staff and Lip and that crew have to fight,

1054
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 5: but I would have supreme confidence in their ability to

1055
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: do so.

1056
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: John Harris and I with Rhett Lewis at the NFL

1057
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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine and again our entire program up on podcasts

1058
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1059
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1060
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1061
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1062
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1063
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1064
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