1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Yo yo, yo yo, YoY. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: The dato. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: I raised off a FaceTime with Krista Miller, who called 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: me solely to tell me how much she loved our 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Andy Ramage episode Yay. She said it was incredible and informative. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if you guys have heard any good vibrations 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: from it. But people really liked it, at least anecdotally. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: My friend liked it. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: It's been very positive out there, people really loving it. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: I would like to see if you guys take the challenge, 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: let us know how it goes. I was a little inspired. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: I went out for my birthday and was like, you 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: know what, I'm going to do some of these non 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: alcoholic drinks and to see what that's not. And they 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: were fine and delicious and I didn't miss drinking, So, 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: you know, might pick up the challenge me do it? 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, give it a try. I guarantee you. The only 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: thing I can tell you is you might not be 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: You might listen to that and go interesting. Not for me, 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: But if you just do a month just for just 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: as an experiment, I guarantee you you will feel good 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: on day thirty. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 4: Nice, nice little recap of our last couple of episodes, right. 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: There, Yes, and Vaginas. Vagina's was popular, right, Joell, Vagina's was. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: Very popular, as always, historically very. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Popular, historically very popular. Did you get any good feedback 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: about Vagina's. 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: Joelle, only that it was hilarious, people spinning up drinks, 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: having to pull over in their car. 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: That's when the people were very really, very much. 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like I had to pull over 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: so that I could see because I was laughing so hard. 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: I love that these are your reviews, ladies and gentlemen. 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes, please let us know what you like. Donald and 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't aren't on Twitter and we barely read Instagram anymore, 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: so we need feedback. So give it to Joel and 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Dale who are on every social media and let them know. Right, Yeah, 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: we're here for it. Donald, I've been building the land 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: Rover Defender Lego structure you gave me. It's amazing. It's 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: coming along for your birthday. Yes, for those of you 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: don't know, it's eighteen plus. It's very hard. I forgot 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: that Legos had age had eight restrictions. 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: It's Lego, It's Lego. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Don't get them started leg Lego. That Lego sets had 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: eight restrictions. 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: You know. 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to brag to my assistant that it 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: was kind of hard, and he goes, well, it says 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: in the box eighteen plus, and I'm like, eighteen plus. 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tricky, but I feel like a 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: fifteen year old. Eighteen plus felt a little bit extreme, 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Like I think, I don't think there was any reason 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: why fifteen year olds couldn't. 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: But then you ran into your first roadblock, and you lie, I've. 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Run into so many roadblocks, and you know, it's funny. 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I don't know if you do 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: this with Lego singular, but you get to a certain 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: point where you look and you realize you fuck something up. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: But it's such a fucking ordeal to take it apart 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: and you just go fuck it. There's this Olivia Ririgo 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: news song where she goes, fuck it, it's fine, And 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I keep thinking when I noticed a fuck up that 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I go fuck it. It's fine. Little things you wouldn't 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: no one's gonna notice. 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: Daniel. It's like, you have any news you want to. 66 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Dan, I'll tell the audience it has been 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: a minute since I've seen you, guys, and since then 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: I did get married. 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Wow, look at that. 70 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Did you consummate the marriage? Dane? Oh, my gentleman doesn't too. 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll we'll just infer. It was 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: a Palm Springs hotel and it was very lovely. I'll 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: say that. How many people are invited again? Twenty three? 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Well twenty one, since it was twenty three total people 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: including Stephane. Do you find it odd that Donald and 76 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Joel and I were not invited? 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: Me personally? 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: No, me personally, no, he says, it was really lovely. 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I it was u Palm Springs traditionally very hot weather, 80 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: and as the weekend approach, we noticed that the weather 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: was dropping and we thought, great, it won't be boiling hot. 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: And then the miracle that it was. It rained for 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: the exact twenty minutes of our ceremony, which a lot 84 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: of people kept saying. I hear, it's good luck. That's 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: what they say. That's going to make you feel better. 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: That makes you say that, bingo. 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: So it rained, it. 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: Rained during our wedding. Yeah, but we built tints, we were. 89 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: They frantically built tents the day before in my backyard. Wow. Wow, Well, 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: thankfully it was just a rain. 91 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, Next time put in for the tent. 92 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: But yeah, and also next time, invite next time, invite 93 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: Donald and us next, next marriage. All this, Yes, I 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: heard some funny thing on. I read some funny thing 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: online where some guy it was the woman's second marriage 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: and the guy and like one of the brothers was like, 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: here we are again or something like that. It was 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: like it was like welcome back everyone or something like that, which, 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: if you have the balls to do in someone's second marriage, 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: is amazing. I highly recommend that that's good. Welcome back everyone. 101 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: That's funny. You have the right person who's not going 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to be offended by it, though, truly all right. Well, 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: in our continuing series on trying to make you laugh 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: and entertain you without talking about the television show Scrubs, 105 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: we have what is. 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: Wait, hold up, what is that that you just said? 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: That was a show that you're not allowed to talk 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: about yet, But I can mention because I'm in the 109 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: writers guild that was written and directed in the in 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: the in the in the aughts. Is that what we 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: call him in the it was Ants show. 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: It was Ants show. 113 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: A comedian that I really like and think is so 114 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: funny and is very wise and not only is he hilarious, 115 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: but he's also I think, a deep thinker and says 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: wise things. His name is Pete Holmes, and we are 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: lucky enough to have him on the show. Is he here, Daniel, 118 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: he's here, and we already prepped him for audience. He's 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: going to bring in hold, but. 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 5: I'm not show. We made about a bunch of said 121 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: he's the story natural. So YadA round here, yeada round. 122 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Here, ladies and gentlemen, go ahead, Donald, give. 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 6: It up for Pete's your's your that's your thunderous. 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Applause, that's your oprah intro of Peen Holmes. 125 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 7: I really appreciate I wasn't ready at all. Your team 126 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 7: warned me many times that you guys talk a lot. 127 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 7: That was number one, and that you're often late. 128 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: And we we're only eight minutes in. You're such a 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: fancy guest that we only went eight minutes of banter 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: because we didn't want to leave A fancy stand up comedian, 131 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a beloved America's beloved stand up A fancy boy, a 132 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: fancy boy. 133 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate it, but you jumped right in the 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 7: middle of backpack browsing, so I'm not quite ready. 135 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Why are you in the market for a backpack? Pete homes? 136 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: You know? 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 7: Man, do you find that there's just seasons, there's just 138 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 7: like you just like thinks something happens and you're just 139 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 7: like your zest your zest is up? Does your zest 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 7: ever shoot up? 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like you want to go camping? 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 8: You're yearning your zeal Zach Take any movie you've made 143 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 8: and the character you play the opposite of how the protagonist, 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 8: so that lopey sort of airstream trailer kind of. 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 7: Like if they woke up and was like, I feel 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 7: the opposite and I have zeal and zest and I'm 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 7: gonna go to a Tony Robbins event and I'm gonna 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 7: buy a backpack. That's how I feel today. 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I went into Arii 150 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: and Burbank, which if you've never been there is a 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: magical place and it's really the man that I would 152 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: like to be one day, but I am not. But 153 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: have you been in there? Donald? It's incredible. 154 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I went out here in Tarzanna. 155 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: All right, listen, I've never been in an RII so big, 156 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not a very campy kind of guy. I 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: want to be. I want to be the guy that 158 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: knows how to make a fire and cook on an 159 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: open flame and camping in my kayak. But you walk 160 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: into ari I, Petere. 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 7: Holmes, why real quick? Why go on? 162 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: I just got they got backpacks. 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: You should look it's going online, Pete Holmes. You should 164 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: go into the ri I in Burbank. 165 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I was just magical and huge, and it just there's 167 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: just camping gear and itself big. 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 7: You need the gear to survive the store. Okay, we're 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 7: doing We're doing that. Donald is nice to meet you. 170 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 7: We've never met. 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: It's nice to meet you too. 172 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: Never Pete. That's Joel, our producer and h and Daniel 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: our engineer editor. 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, he has a robot voice. 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: He will edit out anything you say that you think 176 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: is horrible and stupid and should not have been said. 177 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: You can just say cut that, Daniel. 178 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 7: When I made fun of Zach's character choices in his films, 179 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 7: would you actually copy that and paste it? 180 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: So? 181 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I said it twice? Whatever. We adopted two things you 182 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: taught me on our show, Pete Holmes, and one is 183 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a speed agree is that right? 184 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: Yes? 185 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 7: Speed degree? And scandal noted. I said it today. I 186 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 7: said it today. I just did my own podcast and 187 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 7: I was talking about how Louis addressed Luisy ky scandal, 188 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: noted scandal. You have to say that just to sort 189 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 7: of you know. I'm reading an interesting book called The 190 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 7: Coddling of the American Mind. Have you heard of that? 191 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: No, we're not well read here. 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 7: You just jump right to it. 193 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Ask us if we watch Below Decks. Some of us 194 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: do Below Deck? 195 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 7: What is that about? 196 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: That's a reality show, Pete, that follows the crew of 197 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: a fancy yacht and their struggles having to wait on 198 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: the very rich patrons whilst also going out and partying 199 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,479 Speaker 1: and getting ship faced and hooking up themselves. 200 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: I don't watch the show. 201 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: Donald doesn't watch it, but he watches Ah Soka. 202 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: I'm not to talk about that. 203 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: No, but see, Pete, this is something you need to 204 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: know that. 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 7: It's still in your background. Donald, you don't watch that show. 206 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 7: You roll your own cigars and like practice archery. You look, 207 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 7: that's a very fancy room, very. 208 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: Much, audience, Donald, And is in his new home. 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: Someone lived in it before and they had a very. 210 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 7: Who was it Aragorn, son of Arathorne. 211 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lord of the Ring, Pete. 212 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I want to start at the beginning, because that's a 213 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: very good place to start whenever. We we've never had 214 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: a fancy stand up comedian on our show. We've had 215 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: funny people, but no one who's a stand up. And 216 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: I wondered if you could tell the audience a little 217 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: bit about that, because our audience isn't necessarily people aren't 218 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: necessarily people in entertainment, so they might not know how 219 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: the hell do they become a stand up. Now, Pete 220 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: was in a show that was very very good called Crashing. 221 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it, I'm allowed to tell you 222 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: as a writer director that it was written and directed 223 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: very well, but not as an actor. No, that's what 224 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: we were trying to say. Donald is a SAG member 225 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about any acting performances. But as 226 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: a WGA and DGA member, I can tell you the 227 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Crashing was very very well done. Yeah, oh, thank you, 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: and its it sort of told the story. But can 229 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: you tell orian's a little bit how you got started 230 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: and how you ended up being a stand up in 231 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: your life. 232 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good question. I The answer would be, 233 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 7: you know, I started in like two thousand and one 234 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 7: ish around there, so I've been doing it twenty two years. 235 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 7: My god, you just watched me stare into the middle 236 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 7: distance and I start crying. Twenty two years. 237 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: But you just said two thousand and one was twenty 238 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: two years ago. Man, that feels like it was like 239 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: five years ago. I mean, like nineteen eighty feels like 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: twenty two years to me. 241 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 7: Right, I'm so with you. But you know, at that 242 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 7: time in two thousand and two thousand and one, if 243 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 7: you wanted to get into comedy, there was improv, which 244 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 7: I did, and then there was stand up. And that 245 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 7: was around the time when I'm trying to think like 246 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: Cosby Scandal, Noted Seinfeld, there were there were people that 247 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 7: were getting TV shows. So like when you would look 248 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 7: and you'd go, how did I'm trying to think of 249 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: a stand up like Raymond? 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Raymond. 251 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 7: Raymond is a good one, but also SNL people. I 252 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 7: was one of those people that wanted to be on 253 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 7: SNL when I was in high school. That was one 254 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: of like a standout moment was I was in the 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 7: car with my friend Oliver and Kirsta. I mean, that's 256 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 7: how important this was, and I was making them laugh 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 7: so hard and it was either Kirsa or Oliver, but 258 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 7: they said you should be on SNL and I was like, oh, whoa, 259 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like these these things, our 260 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 7: words are like so powerful, and that moment in high 261 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 7: school when everybody's so awkward and pimply and strange, that 262 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 7: that somebody took the time to like encourage me in 263 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 7: that way. And I remember that validating my little night time. 264 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 7: You know, I'd fall asleep pretending I was doing the 265 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 7: Good Nights you know, behind me. Would you imagine you 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 7: I did? And I still have that dream. I don't 267 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 7: have that dream, you know, like in my life, it's 268 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 7: not like on my goals to necessarily do that, but 269 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 7: I still catch myself. I'll wake up and I'm a 270 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 7: little embarrassed. I'm like I had the dream and the 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 7: dream that I had when I was fifteen years old 272 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 7: that I'm behind, you know, some some actor waving at 273 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 7: the Good Nights. So you were like, even as a 274 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 7: as a teenager, I was like, how do you do it? 275 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 7: I was asking the question you're asking, and I was like, 276 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 7: you'd find people like I'm trying to think Jay Moore, 277 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 7: David Spade. There were people that got from stand up 278 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 7: onto snl right, and then I started doing that, mimicking 279 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 7: that doing, and we can get into that and that 280 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 7: really what I got into first though, was improv because 281 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 7: I read a book, the Second City Book that was 282 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: like they broke it down like this. Chris Farley was 283 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: the funniest guy in Madison, Wisconsin. He went down to Chicago. 284 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,239 Speaker 7: He did Second City. Second City gets scouted like an athletic, 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 7: like a baseball scout. They go and they watch the 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: show and they recruit people. And that was true and 287 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 7: it is still kind of true how how it happened. 288 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 7: So I was like, Okay, that's what I'll do. So 289 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 7: I had been doing stand up in Boston probably like 290 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 7: maybe ten times, not a ton, including some self produced 291 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 7: shows I did at my college. The first time I 292 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 7: did stand up, I did an hour stand up. I 293 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 7: just didn't know any better. I didn't know, well, that's generous, dude. 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 7: It was probably six minutes to stand up. 295 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: I listened, said, I'm in dread to have to do 296 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: stand up because I'm look. We had a fantasy football 297 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: league and if you lost, you had to do five 298 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: minutes at like the laugh. Actually one of the dudes 299 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: really exec Yeah, he was an EP and he was like, 300 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: I'll fucking figure it out and we'll make it happen. 301 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: Do you know how hard I tried to win that 302 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: fucking league just so I didn't have to do five minutes. Dude, 303 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: you did a fucking hour your first time out. 304 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: You are the bravest individual to play. 305 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 7: I really appreciate that. And that's a very creative punishment 306 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: because if you don't want to do it, stand up 307 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: is like the worst thing I can imagine having to do. 308 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 7: But because I wanted to do it and I stacked 309 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 7: it with my friends, it's a nightmare now. I would 310 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 7: never want to perform for my friends and my family. 311 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 7: Strangers are so much better. But like I did it 312 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 7: and it wasn't good is what I'm trying to stress. 313 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 7: But you know, I, you know, I broke the seal 314 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 7: and off we went. So I did it like maybe 315 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 7: ten times. But then I read this book called Truth 316 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 7: and Comedy and I was like, oh, improv is where 317 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 7: it's at. Because it's collaborative. It's a lot like you 318 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 7: know what we're doing now as actors, it's like you're 319 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 7: on a set. It's social, You're you're engaging with a 320 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 7: scene partner, and it just felt so much. I'm not 321 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 7: putting it down, but it felt safer, to be honest, I. 322 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: Would love that. By the way, neither have I done 323 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: professionally ever, I think I would love to do improv 324 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: when I go see it. 325 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: You may train as an improv you've done improv before. 326 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Of course. Of course I do improv when I'm acting, 327 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and I make up jokes as we shoot. But I've 328 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: never done a sketch comedy improv land And when I 329 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: go see it, it's obviously hit or miss. Sometimes you'll 330 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: see something that's the funniest fucking thing ever you can't 331 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: believe it, and other times you're like, oh my god, 332 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: this is so cringe, But that's kind of part of 333 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: the role of the dice of the thing. 334 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fun. That could be fun too. 335 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Right, But I always feel like I would love that. 336 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: I would love to do. 337 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: Well because it's it's it's beautiful. And I really became 338 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: like an evangelist for how pure improv is and how 339 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 7: sort of dirty stand up was, because truth and comedy 340 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 7: kind of makes that case that traveling uh that I'm 341 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 7: sorry that comedians stand up comedians are a little bit 342 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 7: like traveling salesmen. It's it's very it puts them down. 343 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 7: It's like they take their wares and their sad little 344 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 7: rental cars and they go to clubs and it's that egg. 345 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: You know. 346 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 7: They don't say that, but they're kind of implying. Whereas 347 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 7: improv is you know, you and five, six, seven, eight 348 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 7: other people, you're listening to each other, you're building it, 349 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 7: create together, you're co creating it, and then you throw 350 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 7: it away. It's almost like Andy Warhol. It's like it 351 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 7: would have belonged in the sixties, with like a spinning 352 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 7: like hypnotic shape in the background and everyone's wearing white 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 7: and smoking cigarettes. Like it's cool, it's experimental, it's alive. 354 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 7: But I do want to say that it is safer. Again, 355 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 7: that doesn't mean it's bad, but there was a My 356 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 7: part of my draw to it was because I was 357 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: scared to do stand up and that's not really a 358 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 7: good reason to not do stand up. And I watched 359 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 7: a lot of people doing improv where you know, and 360 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 7: I'm not breaking any new ground here. People are pointed 361 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 7: this out before. A lot of improv teams are big 362 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 7: white guys with beards, and it's a beer drinking club, 363 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's like, I'm not. I 364 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 7: still think it can be great at times, but I 365 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 7: was always like, very like when I had an improv team, 366 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 7: I wanted to perform all the time. I was like, 367 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 7: what the fuck are we doing? And you perform like 368 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 7: once a month if you're like mad Discipline, and if 369 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 7: you're a house team at Io or something in Chicago, 370 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 7: you go up once a week. And I'm like, this 371 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 7: is fucking stupid, Like it's not, but it is. It's like, 372 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 7: as a stand up you can go up three times 373 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 7: a night, five times a night, six I believe the 374 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 7: record is thirteen times a night. 375 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: You can do them. 376 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 7: I think Steve Byrne did that. He did thirteen sets 377 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 7: in New York. And it's like, I don't do that. 378 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 7: But when I was starting, I would do that. I 379 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 7: would do a lot of reps. And it's like I 380 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 7: think it was Chappelle or I think it was Chappelle 381 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 7: that was like, look, if you have a guy in 382 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 7: boise Ido Iowa that's doing like, you know, a set 383 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 7: a month, and then you have some dude in Manhattan 384 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 7: that's going up five times a week, who's going to 385 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 7: get better? Like you can feel it in New York. 386 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 7: You're like, yeah, I'm better than I was at seven 387 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 7: o'clock today. 388 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: But you got to put in those reps. 389 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: You can't. 390 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 7: You can't with improv. That was my problem. You are 391 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 7: now scheduling ten people with jobs, with lives, a lot 392 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 7: of them, with families, a lot of them that some 393 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 7: of them were just kind of doing it because it's 394 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: fucking great and it's fun and it's art in itself. 395 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 7: But I've always had kind of like a not it's 396 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: not grotesque, but I've had like, I want to do 397 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 7: show business. I want to write shows, I want to 398 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 7: write movies, I want to act. I want to do this, 399 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 7: and I want to do it by getting really good 400 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 7: at stand up and always do stand up first and foremost, 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 7: but like and and for itself. But I was like, 402 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 7: I gotta go, We gotta fucking go, guys, let's go. 403 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 7: And it's hard to do that when you got to 404 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: call three of three other guys and two of them 405 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 7: are on Kyle. 406 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. 407 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. I've had 408 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the experience when of knowing people, particularly I was my twenties, 409 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: of people trying to start out doing stand up and 410 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: there's this system in place right where you you need 411 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: to recruit people to come to your show, who are 412 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: your friends, your family, and they need to pay a 413 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: cover and like buy a two drink minimum, and that's 414 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: and that's how you kind of get up in the beginning. 415 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: Is that's still the case. That's what it was back 416 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: in like the early two thousands when I had people 417 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: that were trying to do this. 418 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 419 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like one of my roommates when I first moved 420 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: out here, he was in the stand up and stuff 421 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: like that. He would try and get on it. I 422 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: forget what the what the spot was, but it was 423 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 4: like because I smoked way too much weed back then. 424 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 7: And still do nothing change. 425 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: Nothing changed a second. It's the same ship. 426 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 7: That looks like a great sweatshirt to smoke weedan is 427 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 7: that your Mickey Mouse sweatshirt? 428 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: No, it's not the Mickey Mouse. 429 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: He knows about the Mickey Mouse. 430 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: He's a listener. 431 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 7: It's not. It's not okay. 432 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 4: And I saw him bomb quite a bit, and I 433 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: saw him, you know, I have a few nights where 434 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: he did really well and I used to sit there 435 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: and be like, dude, I don't know why you're putting 436 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: yourself through this? And it was the same show every night, 437 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: and he was like, if I can just get this right, 438 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: if this comes out right, oh. 439 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: My god, you know what I mean. 440 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 7: I have a lot of thoughts about that. First of all, 441 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 7: stand up comedy is a never ending parade of humiliations 442 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 7: and embarrassments. 443 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: It does seem to be a really, really, really hard 444 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: attract Some. 445 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 7: People are like, oh, I tried it and then I stopped. 446 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 7: Should I get back into it? And I'm like, if 447 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 7: it didn't get its hook in you, why would you? 448 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 7: Why would you run through a like a sea, like 449 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 7: a navy seal obstacle course. When on the other side 450 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 7: of it is some dude says you can do his 451 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 7: show once a month unless you really want it, you 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 7: know what I mean. So the other thing I feel 453 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 7: very strongly about that I just think is really important 454 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 7: and it's a through line and a lot of the 455 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 7: people that I know that were successful in stand up. 456 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 7: Leave your fucking friends out of it, leave your fo 457 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 7: get the fuck out. I didn't invite my fucking friends 458 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 7: to come watch me when I knew I don't invite 459 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 7: my friends. Now, you know what I'm saying it's like, 460 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 7: get why would I want you to watch me rearrange 461 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 7: my chocolate paneled living room? You know what I mean. 462 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 7: It's like, it's stupid. It's private, it's between me and 463 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 7: the audience. It's not a social experiment. It's not something 464 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 7: I want you. I want your support. I'm in this 465 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 7: to be fucking Batman. And have you ever seen Batman 466 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 7: on a gargoyle? He didn't bring his friend Caleb to 467 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 7: watch him learn how to fight crime. Fucking beat it. 468 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 7: This isn't about you. I hope you never see me 469 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 7: fuck off. I'm doing this because it's a compulsion and 470 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 7: it's a passion, and it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Like Zach 471 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 7: came and saw me and it was a great show. 472 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 7: I'm at a point in my career people can come 473 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 7: and see me now. But for the first ten years, 474 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 7: you know, I worked at Bennegan's in on the South 475 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 7: Side of Chicago. A lot of people didn't even know 476 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 7: I was a comedian. That's the right way to do it, 477 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 7: just in the same way people don't know Bruce Wayne 478 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 7: as Batman. Beat it. You have nothing to do with it. 479 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: But how do you get up here's my question, how 480 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: do you get up? Because to me, that racket that 481 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: I sort of was exposed to was the you know 482 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: by the way they're going up at like five thirty, 483 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: you know the reason that they were getting up is because. 484 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 7: They brought friends. Those are called bringers. 485 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us tell you what. I've never audience. What 486 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: a bringer is the audience? I can't much. 487 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 7: I can't't, I can't, I can't. I'm just kidding. 488 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: That's kind of the audience about the tracks. One of 489 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: them is being is being a bringer? Go ahead. 490 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 7: Well, I never did bringers, and I don't encourage people 491 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 7: to do bringers. I think bringers are for the tourists. 492 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 7: There are exceptions to this. There are great comics that 493 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 7: did bringers, But a lot of people that do bringers 494 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 7: are just trying to pay it. Meaning like if I 495 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 7: get five friends to buy five tickets, so that's already 496 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 7: fifty bucks. Now two drinks and that's probably twenty bucks each. 497 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 7: I'm not here to do math, but you know, the 498 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 7: club's making a lot of money giving you five minutes 499 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 7: on a special show on a Monday night five thirty. Yeah, 500 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 7: and you bring me. That's a racket for the clubs. 501 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 7: It's like a pyramid scheme basically, and like it's also 502 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: I would say it's impossible to do well. I've been 503 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 7: doing it, Like I said twenty two twenty three years. 504 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 7: If you put me up at a six o'clock Bringer, 505 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 7: unless all I did was make fun of how horrible 506 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 7: the show was, which isn't kind. There's no way to 507 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 7: do well. You can't go up in that show and 508 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 7: be like, you know the funny thing about sand like 509 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 7: get at. Nobody wants to be there. They're hostages. 510 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: It's horrible. I've been to bringers. I never knew there 511 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: was a term. I've been to bringers that are so 512 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: cringe and you're there trying to be supportive of your friend, 513 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: but you still have to listen to twenty other people. 514 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: We're at this Bringer. 515 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, it's like if aliens are watching us. 516 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 7: They're watching Bringer shows going like, look at what they do, 517 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 7: because it's a lot of to bringers. 518 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: I never knew there was a term club. 519 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: Okay, so look, and I didn't know they were it 520 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: was called bringers either. First of all, so when I 521 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: was growing up, my parents worked at it were a 522 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 4: part of a theater company called the National Black Theater. 523 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: It was in Harlem, and for two seasons, Uptown Comedy 524 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: Club set shot its show at the theater. So I 525 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: got to see a lot of very young comedians, African 526 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: American comedians, Ma Coo, Dougie, Doug, Tracy Morgan, a lot 527 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: of these cats perform and stuff like that. And so 528 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: on nights when they weren't shooting stuff like that, there 529 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: would be comedy night and they would set it up 530 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: just like it was on television, and people would come 531 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 4: on stage and those were the knights where that shit 532 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 4: would be empty as fuck, you know what I mean, 533 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: Like nobody. 534 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: Would ever night. 535 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: Yeah it was well, yeah that's what it would be, 536 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: but you would you wouldn't know it, but fucking Dougie 537 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 4: Doug would host it or freaking Flex would be on stage. 538 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: This is back then, right, And I just remember, like 539 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: the ones that did bring their friends in, you know 540 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: what I mean, Yeah, they got the last they got that. 541 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 7: That's what I mean. It's it's ridiculous. So to jump 542 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 7: no bringers. I'm not saying nobody's done a bringer and done, okay, 543 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 7: I'm just saying that was my policy. I was like, 544 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 7: this is embarrassing. This is growing pains. Let's just do 545 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 7: this as privately as possible. Otherwise you're going to exhaust 546 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 7: your friend group. They're gonna stop coming. 547 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: I was exhausted fast because I once you go to 548 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: two or three bringers, You're like, how do I never 549 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: do this? 550 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 7: It's not a renewable resource. It's not a renewable resource. 551 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 7: And even if it is, you you're exploiting your it's horrible. 552 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 7: So what you want to do. And when I was 553 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 7: in Chicago and when I was in New York is 554 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 7: I would do open mics, which you're a different kind 555 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 7: of death, but it's a different agreement. In New York, 556 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 7: you had to pay, the comic had to pay. You 557 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 7: had to buy two drinks or two items, so I 558 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 7: got you know, this is a time when money's very tight. 559 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 7: I buy two buy two cokes for two cokes. Yeah, 560 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 7: but you also have to sign up, which means you 561 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 7: might be going on thirtieth you know what I mean. 562 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 7: There's nothing good about a question. 563 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: You would have hit a bullshit? Wait, you hit a bullshit. 564 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: I used to have to pay for fucking drinks. 565 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: I'm a little kid, and I'm paying for sodas and 566 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: ship at this fucking comedy club and if I couldn't pay, 567 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: they would kick me the fuck. 568 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: Kick. 569 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: I need to buy two cokes. 570 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: This is my parents theater and shit. 571 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: But the funny thing is they put them right in 572 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: front of you, because you're like, all right, have you 573 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: have this agreement where you have to buy two drinks? Right, 574 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: so even if you're not drinking alcohol, you're drinking diet coke, Like, 575 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: they just put two die cokes in front of you. 576 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, no, that that is how you could spot 577 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 7: a comic at one of these things, because you had 578 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 7: two glasses of coke in front of you that no 579 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 7: one wanted. And it was also at a time when, 580 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 7: like you know, that's probably in New York in two 581 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 7: thousand and four. I mean two cokes was probably still 582 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 7: about eight bucks, and you're just sort of like, I 583 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 7: don't I don't have eight but like this sucks. 584 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: So I have a question for you. When I walk 585 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: down McDougall, For those who don't know McDougall, what is 586 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: it street, boulevard? What is it? I think it's street 587 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: in Manhattan. Is not only the place where I think 588 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: you would say the top comedy club in Manhattan is 589 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: the comedy seller, yep, but also there's a few other clubs. 590 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: And when you walk down that street, and by the way, 591 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: a lot of Pete's show crashing takes place on that street. 592 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember seeing you guys shooting there. 593 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: There's guys and gals pamphleting. Yeah, now are they also 594 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: comics trying to get up? 595 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 7: Is that another? 596 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: What's that? 597 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: And that is what I did? So I love this 598 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 7: is such a generous line of questioning. I just really 599 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 7: appreciate your Well. 600 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: We want to educate our audience on the life of 601 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: a stand up comedian. 602 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate anyone listening. 603 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: It's very We've done vaginas, and we've done penises, We've 604 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: done we've done alcohol. Now we've done horses. We did 605 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: horses comedians. 606 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 7: Well, okay, what what? Oh? So that's called barking. And 607 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 7: so what I did when I was in New York. 608 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 7: And when I got to New York, i'd been doing 609 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 7: stand up for three years, but I felt like I 610 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 7: was starting over. And I think we could talk about 611 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 7: that for a while, but that was important. I didn't 612 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 7: walk in going like I'm from Chicago and you will 613 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 7: respect me. You just assume you're starting over, and that 614 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 7: was that was a good attitude. I don't remember who 615 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 7: explained that to me. Probably somebody told me that, and 616 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 7: I just I went in headlow, you know. And then 617 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 7: I did the open mics. But like I said, you're 618 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 7: looking at eight bucks a throw plus subway all that stuff, 619 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 7: and they sucked. They sucked. They were I'm not saying 620 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 7: I sucked. I did suck. Like I wasn't that bad 621 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 7: three years in. I wasn't that bad. But these shows, 622 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 7: performing for other comedians looking at their notes, waiting for 623 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 7: their turn to go on again, it's it's an unwinnable situation. 624 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 7: The only times I remember killing it open mics was 625 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 7: I had an opener where I'd go, look at what 626 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 7: we're doing and everyone would laugh because that was the 627 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 7: only angle know your audience. It's like, look what is this? 628 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny. That's a funny route. It's like, you know, 629 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: the audience's other comics like make fun of the process. 630 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: You can't. 631 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 7: But I'm not even trying. There's no mark. Again. I 632 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 7: don't want to sound like a like a capitalist, like 633 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 7: swine or anything, but I wasn't getting in it to 634 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 7: learn how to kill it in an open mic, like 635 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 7: it was fun to do every once in a while, 636 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 7: but I was like, I want to run bits, I 637 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 7: want to work out material, and it wasn't happening. 638 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was asking you. 639 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: Were you at the level where you were able to 640 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: run your bits and work out your material and try 641 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: and get your set complete you. 642 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 7: Could do bits at an open mic, But like if 643 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 7: someone kind of was like, huh, like that was a 644 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 7: standing ovation, you know, and really, and this is again 645 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 7: we could talk about the theory of getting through open mics. 646 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: The mantra at that point is don't quit. It's like, 647 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 7: it's like it's gonna suck. There's a line in Crashing 648 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 7: where Marina Franklin says to me, she says, if it sucks, 649 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 7: that's how you know you're doing it right. And that 650 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 7: is absolutely true of the beginning of stand up. And 651 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 7: you have to frame it and renarrativize it as something romantic, 652 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 7: as a lineage, as a rite of passage, because it's 653 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 7: not gonna in itself reward you. But when I would 654 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 7: see like Dmitri Martin was like I barked at the 655 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 7: Boston Comedy Club, I was like I'm gonna bark at 656 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 7: the Boston Comic Club. Like that's what I'm gonna do. 657 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 7: Jim Gaffigan was like, go to the Boston Comedy Club 658 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 7: and ask them how, and what they were saying, essentially 659 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 7: was there's a dumpster fire over there that you can 660 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 7: at least find a couple tunicns and discarded paper boxes 661 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 7: that you can lay on. It's gonna suck. Jim Gavigan 662 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 7: said to me, this is twenty years ago. He goes, 663 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 7: you're gonna think I'm insane, but you need to go 664 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 7: to a place that will like fold you into it 665 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 7: and let you let you in. And the places that 666 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: are gonna let essentially just a wandering you know, new 667 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 7: comedian in aren't gonna be great places. So the place 668 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 7: that I got in was the Boston It's not there anymore. 669 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 7: We rebuilt it for Crashing, which was a real trip, 670 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 7: but was on West third and basically West third McDougall, 671 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 7: so it was like a block and a half from 672 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 7: where I wanted to be, and my corner was McDougall 673 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 7: and third. So I was standing watching my heroes. And 674 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 7: when I say heroes, I don't mean names, you know, 675 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 7: I just mean, any dude that was working the cellar 676 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 7: was my. 677 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: But that's good to say, But we should also tell 678 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: the audience. He doesn't know that the top comedians stand 679 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: ups in the world, if they're gonna make a surprise 680 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and shore somewhere, they go to the cellar so you'll see. 681 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, you can be in there and all of 682 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know Chappelle's going on or Seinfeld's going on. 683 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: They just show up and surprise the audience. 684 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 7: And that's the trip, is that that Chappelle would also 685 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: come to this Boston because the Boston would let him 686 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 7: do three hours because it sucks and you want to 687 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 7: hear something crazy. This is when Chappelle's show is on. 688 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 7: So I'm barking. So I literally just went to the 689 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 7: Boston Comedy Club. I met the manager. His name was Dustin. 690 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 7: Somebody had told me go to the Boston asked for Dustin. 691 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: I met Dustin, who's a great guy, and I said, like, 692 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 7: I just told him what I've been telling you. I'm 693 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 7: from Chicago, I've been doing three years. I'm just looking 694 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 7: for a home club. And the moments in my life 695 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 7: that hinged on some human kindness are insane. And we 696 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 7: could spend the rest of the podcast talking about those 697 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 7: kindness hinge moments, and this was one of them, because 698 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 7: he could have just said get the fuck out of here. 699 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 7: He said what he said wasn't the best news. But 700 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 7: he was like, if you stand on that corner for 701 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: four hours, I'll give you four minutes, you know what 702 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: I mean. A lot of people would be like that 703 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 7: sounds like abuse, but I was like, I got my headphones, 704 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 7: I'm going to stand out there. They didn't track it. 705 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: Some clubs track it like you write your name on 706 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 7: it and they count how many people come in with 707 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 7: a flyer with your name on it. They weren't doing that. 708 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 7: You just had to do it, which felt a little 709 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 7: old Testament in a good way, in the way it's 710 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 7: like you want to marry my daughter, work in the 711 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 7: fields for seven years, like it felt from it does 712 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 7: feel and it feels like fight club. You want to 713 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 7: come in for Project Mayhem, stand on the porch for 714 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 7: three days. So I was like, Okay, we come from 715 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 7: a species that values people proving that they really want something. 716 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 7: Sleep on the on the steps of the temple before 717 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 7: you come in on karate. That's what it felt like. 718 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 7: So I was like okay, and I that was like 719 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 7: I felt like that was my first break was that 720 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 7: Dustin was like I'll let you bark and I went out. 721 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 7: I was pretty good at it, meaning I just kind of, 722 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 7: you know, I've cut corners in my life when I 723 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 7: was a waiter, I would cut corner. I was kind 724 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 7: of lazy and stuff. But with this, I was like 725 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 7: dead serious. So I was like handout flyers, going for it. 726 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: What was your line that would get people to Trey 727 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: live comedy? 728 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 7: I just said great live com you guys, you guys. Look, 729 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 7: that's all I said. Great because there's so many people, 730 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 7: it's got to be quick, great live comedy, and that 731 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 7: great live comedy. 732 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: Here's there's also a lot of people. When you walk 733 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: down Mcdogal, there's a lot of people doing this to 734 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: get you to the different clubs. Yeah, it's kind of 735 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: like the red Light District in Amsterdam. It's very Instead 736 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: of it prostitutes, it's guys like Pete. 737 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 4: It's the it's the fucking well, I don't want to 738 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 4: say that, now say it. 739 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 7: It's the It's yes, yeah, it is, you know what 740 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 7: it is. It's like the gym too, Like it's just 741 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 7: like this. I like the kung Fu thing. It's like, 742 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 7: go sleep in the rain, go sleep on it in 743 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 7: a ditch and prove it. And I actually I'm one 744 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 7: of those old people now that I'm like, this is good. 745 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 7: You shouldn't get famous on TikTok right away and not 746 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 7: be very good. I'm not thinking about anybody in particular 747 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 7: and just get catapulted into fame. You should lower yourself. 748 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 7: It's fucking Indiana Jones. Only the pendent man will pass, 749 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 7: and you got to get on your knees and fucking 750 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 7: get fucking humiliated. What is the root of humiliated is humble. 751 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 7: It's also the same root as human. It's also the 752 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 7: same root as soil. It's like, get low. And that's 753 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 7: what Bill Burr told me. I was very lucky that 754 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 7: the first people that I opened. 755 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: Forgot some really fucking, really cool dudes advice right away. 756 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 7: Jim Gaffigan and Bill Burke used to come through Chicago, 757 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 7: and my friend Dan Kaufman hooked me up and got 758 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 7: me opening for them. We didn't those weren't like huge 759 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 7: names at the point. They were to me, but not 760 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 7: to the world. And and Bill Burr said he was 761 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 7: the one that said go to the Boston Comedy Club, 762 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 7: and he said, keep your head down, don't be a dick. 763 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 7: You'll get in. Though I still have that email, I've 764 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 7: looked at it, not recently, but I have checked that 765 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 7: I got that wording right, and that's what it was. 766 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 7: So keep your head down and like cand of keep 767 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 7: your mouth shut. You know, people are gonna make fun 768 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 7: of you, people are gonna tease you, but like, just 769 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 7: let the craft speak for itself. Just get better. And 770 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 7: the tip that I think you were steering me towards 771 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 7: that was that, like I have a stack of flyers 772 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 7: and you'd have to like take a flyer out, snap 773 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 7: and put it in front of somebody. Yeah, and if 774 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 7: they don't take it, which most people don't, put it 775 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 7: back in the stack, so you snap it again. You 776 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 7: don't just leave it out there like you need the 777 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 7: movement and some sort of razzle. 778 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: They're also very tall. What are you six? 779 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 7: What six six? Yeah? 780 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: So six six helps? You're gonna get people are gonna 781 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: look at you. 782 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. And you know what else helped is is like 783 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 7: I'm an effusive person, I'm a communicator. This doesn't always work, 784 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 7: meaning I would tell Dustin how much it meant to me, 785 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 7: like even after a night, sometimes the show was canceled. 786 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 7: Often the show was canceled. You bark for four hours, 787 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 7: you come back, no one's there. You just go home. 788 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. But I was so humiliating and humbling. 789 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 7: But if you keep doing it, you know what I 790 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 7: mean by old testament. It's like, you must really love 791 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 7: my wife or my daughter, you can marry her. 792 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the Miagi analogy. You fucking learned 793 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: to wax on wax off. 794 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, But like I also was very clear, I'm not 795 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 7: a tourist, meaning I'm not just doing this to have fun. 796 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 7: This was I didn't lose in my fantasy football thing, 797 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 7: like I want I want this, I want to do 798 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 7: this and thank you for the opportunity. Now, that sweetness 799 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 7: didn't always work. I remember there was a club in 800 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 7: Boston that I was trying to get up and I 801 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: would He told me, he was like, we'll get you 802 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 7: up another time this month. And I used to call, 803 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 7: just every day, just calling, and the dude, fine, I'd 804 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 7: get the machine. I'd leave him like the seventh message, 805 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 7: This coked up club owner picks up the phone. He's 806 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 7: like this isn't how it fucking works. I call you like, 807 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 7: he like chewed me out. So I couldn't just be 808 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 7: like the borderline Mormon sweet level, you know what I mean. 809 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 7: Like I was so doe eyed and kind, I'd like 810 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 7: to think, but gentle and happy to be here, almost 811 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 7: like Jack McBrayer or Buddy the Elf, you know what 812 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 7: I mean. And that did it. Yeah, it did work 813 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 7: with Dustin in the sense that he knew I meant it, 814 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 7: and he's a true comic and he respected the part 815 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 7: of me that wanted to be a true comic. And 816 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 7: then the trip was I was gonna say, when Chappelle 817 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 7: would drop by, we'd go out on the street. Again. 818 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 7: It might be ten o'clock at night, the Terrible Show 819 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 7: is already going. There's like seven people in the house. 820 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 7: I'm waiting to go on and the and they go 821 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 7: Chappelle's here. He's It's so fucking what is there anyone cooler? 822 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 7: He's walking in. I can remember it, and you know, 823 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 7: he's smoking, and Dustin would say, go back out, and 824 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 7: we would go back out. Of course, would go back out. 825 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 7: Then all we had to say was Dave Chappelle's in here, 826 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 7: and the place would be full in like fifteen minutes. 827 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: Wow, but here's the word back out. I could picture 828 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: all the comedians who thought they were going to go on, yeah, 829 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: are now running out with their flyers. It became Chappelle, Chappelle, chappelle. 830 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: But it probably means you're not going to go on. 831 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 7: No, it was a mixed bag. At first, it was awesome, 832 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,959 Speaker 7: and I'd say this to Dave, it's not shit talk. 833 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 7: At first it was awesome, and then after a while 834 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 7: that just meant, here's what's going to happen. One hundred 835 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 7: and fifty people are going to pack out the club. 836 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 7: He's going to go on. He's going to go on 837 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 7: for two hours maybe. And by that I mean he's 838 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 7: not and he you know, he can do whatever he wants, 839 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 7: but he's not necessarily doing material. He's fucking around, which 840 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 7: is his right. I say, you see the hierarchy. There 841 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 7: is like a respect pyramid of stand up, and we 842 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 7: take that seriously. So that was fine. I would watch it, 843 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 7: and I learned a lot about what it's like to 844 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 7: develop material really raw, just literally asking somebody like what's 845 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 7: your favorite breakfast cereal and riffing on cinnamon toa's crunch 846 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 7: for five minutes. But it wasn't he wasn't doing you know, 847 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 7: he's feeling prepared. 848 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: No, I've seen this, by the way. I've seen this. No, 849 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: I've literally seen this carry out. I've been in the 850 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: cellar when oh my god, she Pell's here. She might 851 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: everyone gets excited. Yeah, and then he starts smoking and 852 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: there isn't even what seems like the seed of an idea. 853 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's just him smoking, and he just like 854 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: starts shooting the ship with an audience member. And because 855 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: he's who he is, he's earned the right yeah to 856 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: do that. And then if you're in the audience, you're like, 857 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: when's he gonna start telling a joke? 858 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 859 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. And there's a certain kind of writing you 860 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 7: can only do on the high wire, like you want 861 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 7: to be in front of the crowd, Like I write 862 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 7: and then I go on stage and it just juices 863 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 7: it up. You just like being in front of an audience. 864 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 7: You like the thrill of the laugh and all that stuff. 865 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 7: So I get it. He's going up and and and 866 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 7: he's an EmPATH, but he's absorbing that energy and it's 867 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 7: inspiring him. But he's also like a cool ass dude, 868 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 7: that's very calm, So he doesn't mind just sitting there 869 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 7: and smoking if that's what happens for a couple of minutes. 870 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 7: So then the best case scenario would be he doesn't 871 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 7: do too long. He says thank you, and then I 872 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 7: he didn't talk about and no one yeah, right, hey, Hi, 873 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 7: get off, and then the barkers, as we were known, 874 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 7: because no one is left and no one wants to 875 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 7: go next. So now everyone wanted to go next. Now 876 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 7: Chappelle went up, no one wants to go next. So 877 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 7: the number of times that I went on stage, and 878 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 7: my opener, if you want to call it, that was 879 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 7: please don't leave, Please don't leave. David Chapelle was great. 880 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 7: I know, please don't leave, and everyone would leave. But guys, 881 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 7: I'm forty four, and as I tell this story, I 882 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 7: have a huge smile on my face. It was essential. 883 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 7: It was essential. It was like, that's why I told you. 884 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 7: When people say I did stand up once or twice, 885 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 7: I took a ten year break, Should I do it again, 886 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 7: I'm like, no, you either know this is your shit 887 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 7: even when you suck, but you still have those dreams 888 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 7: literally in my case, literally dreaming about it. Dreaming about 889 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 7: hanging out with Zach and Donald on a podcast. Fucking 890 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 7: dream come to you know, my first specscript with Scrubs. 891 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 7: By the way, this shit, this shit was fucking in me, 892 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, So like you gotta take 893 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 7: the win, and the wind was this sucks and I'm 894 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 7: not quitting. I know that sounds like a little like 895 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 7: a refrigerator magnet, but I was like, I'm proud that 896 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 7: I went into Manhattan, a place that used to it's 897 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 7: At that time, it was scary to me. Unsettling. People 898 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 7: are mean, Comics are mean. People would say right to 899 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 7: your face, I don't like you, like fucking weird shit. 900 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 7: And I stood there holding my empty porridge bowl and 901 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 7: just like smiled like the fucking Buddha and just waited 902 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 7: my turn. And then me and the Barkers would talk shit. 903 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 7: Of course we hated everybody. 904 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 2: Is that a young man's game, that's a good question. 905 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I was twenty five, but Dmitri Martin was 906 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 7: in law school. He was in his second year of 907 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 7: law school and he quit. That's fucking courage and certainty 908 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 7: and skill. Like he recognized his skill, so he didn't 909 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 7: start until he was already out of college and two 910 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 7: years into law school. But Tim Allen is always the example. 911 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 7: I like, sometimes people go, is it too late for 912 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 7: me to start? And whatever age they are, I go, 913 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 7: Tim Allen was in jail when he was your you 914 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 7: know what I mean, like meaning it if it's in you, 915 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 7: you know what I mean, like there can be a 916 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 7: later break. It's just in fact, the older you get, 917 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 7: you know, I think, the funnier you get, and you can, 918 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 7: especially these days, you can cram conversation like this, cram content. 919 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 7: I was just talking to somebody on my pod today. 920 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 7: I was like, I used to go to the library 921 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 7: and get like prior VHS's and stuff, and like, you know, 922 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 7: you'd have to take this in Boston, take the subway 923 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 7: into Tower Records just to look to see if they 924 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 7: had a comedy section. They didn't. You just go home. 925 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 7: Like but now, if somebody was starting in their thirties 926 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 7: or even their forties, I wouldn't roll my eyes at that, 927 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 7: you know, And Roseanne, there are a lot of people, 928 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 7: I think, especially now, I wouldn't think this do paying 929 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 7: shit though I don't know. It's an ego question. Some 930 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 7: people have egos that they can detach from them, so 931 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 7: I was a little bit more easily and because I 932 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 7: was young and didn't have as much of an ego 933 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 7: like dude I was. I was on an airplane. I 934 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 7: had a first class ticket on a flight. They moved 935 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 7: me to another flight. My seat wasn't first class, and 936 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 7: I got on the plane. I was not rude about it, 937 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 7: but there were empty seats in first class and I'm like, 938 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 7: can I have one of these? And they were like no, 939 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 7: and I was like, and I was so shocked that 940 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 7: they said no. I didn't do anything rude, but I 941 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 7: was like, dude, I couldn't do it now, you know 942 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 7: what I mean. Like, I wouldn't go and be like 943 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 7: I just barked for four hours and they're like, show 944 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 7: is canceled. I'd be like, well, I'm not coming tomorrow. 945 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 7: This isn't working. But to that, I knew dudes that 946 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 7: came to New York and weren't willing to eat shit 947 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 7: and they are not doing comedy anymore. And that's okay. 948 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 7: I don't say that and spit out their name from 949 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 7: my mouth or anything. I'm just saying there were two 950 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 7: people that in the scenes that I came up with 951 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 7: that didn't make it. One was people that weren't willing 952 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 7: to eat shit, eat a shit sandwich. And that's within reason. 953 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 7: I'm not talking about taking abuse from club owners or 954 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 7: other comics. I'm saying, within reason, the parameters that we've 955 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 7: kind of been discussing, the other dudes that didn't make 956 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 7: it and women that didn't make it, were the shit talkers, 957 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 7: Like if all you did was complain about what other 958 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 7: people were getting and how fast they were getting. Because 959 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 7: here I am handing out flyers as these I'm sorry 960 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 7: shows up on the scene. Dude is instant, from my perspective, 961 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 7: instantly in Rolling Stone, on the hot List, you know 962 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 7: what I mean, or something like that, and you're like, 963 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 7: dude's twenty years old. If you let that jealousy permeate 964 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 7: you and get in your bones, I call it comedy cancer. 965 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 7: You're done. You're fucking done. You keep your head down, 966 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 7: Bill Burr, keep your head do beit deck like you 967 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 7: can't look at your neighbor's paper. And that's why you 968 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 7: don't invite your friends. I don't give a fuck what 969 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 7: my friends think. I know I suck. It's my time 970 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 7: to suck. Let me do it privately, let me do 971 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 7: it alone. 972 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. 973 00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Let me 974 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 1: ask you this. They used to be the old prayer 975 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: was that you would get a sitcom, right, So nowadays. 976 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that still to say. 977 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's a show. I'm sure, but. 978 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 4: No guys getting in the stand up really just to 979 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 4: make everybody laugh for the rest of their life. They 980 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 4: want to fucking turn that shit into fucking. 981 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 7: Of course, of course some do, some do really, there 982 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 7: are there are purists. Yeah, for sure, there's a great story. 983 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 7: Hannibal Burris. I don't think it'd mind me telling you this, 984 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 7: but like he used to go into meetings with networks 985 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 7: and he'd just be like, I just want to get 986 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 7: good at stand up. Like he'd be completely honest with them. 987 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 7: They're like, yeah, but do you have any pitches? And 988 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 7: he's like, I want to get good at stand up 989 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 7: Because he knew the order, he was like, you're not 990 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 7: gonna We're not going to do this. Now. I'm glad 991 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 7: we know each other. I'm extrapolating. I just remember Hannibal 992 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 7: was one of those dudes that was like, I just 993 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 7: want to be one of the greats, you know. 994 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: So, but yeah, my question is how do you now 995 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: make a living at it? Because I know you've had 996 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: you have a successful tour. You have an upcoming Netflix 997 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: show which we should plug. 998 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 7: What's it called show ten twenty four. It'll be out 999 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 7: ten twenty four. It's called I Am Not for everyonty. 1000 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: I am for everyone. Yeah, I am not for everyone 1001 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: on Netflix. I've seen this show, by the way, with 1002 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence. Bill and I went to one of the 1003 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: last times you were sort of doing it for an 1004 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: audience at Largo in Los Angeles before you went to 1005 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: shoot it. I believe right, And I'm not just saying 1006 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: this because he's here. Bill and I belly laughed for 1007 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: an hour and a half. How long did you did 1008 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: it end up being ninety minutes? 1009 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 7: No, I cut some stuff. 1010 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: It's funny. That night I was like that night, I 1011 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: was like, I said to you, oh, I'm sure you're 1012 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: going to cut it down to an hour, right, And 1013 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: you were like, no, No, I think I'm going to leave 1014 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: it long. But even the ninety minutes, we bally laughed 1015 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: the whole time. It was so fucking funny. I promise you, audience, 1016 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: if you're listening and you're a fan of Donald and 1017 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: I you will laugh at Pete's special. It's so smart 1018 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: and funny. And I like comedy that does not only 1019 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: make me laugh but makes me think, and your hour 1020 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: certainly does that. Oh thanks man, But I wanted to 1021 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: say My question is how I've gone to the Cellar 1022 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: and seen so many brilliant comedians. That's where you go 1023 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: when you want to see the best in town, and 1024 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't. They aren't necessarily household names. They aren't necessarily 1025 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: people you'd recognize. How do these people make a living? 1026 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: Do they do they tour? They's? Do they tour at 1027 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: different levels? Are they hoping for a special? What is 1028 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three way that a stand up comedian 1029 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: makes a living? 1030 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 7: Again a generous question. We we cover this a little 1031 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 7: bit on Crashing, but the answer is more than what 1032 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 7: we showed on the show. There's different markets, right, so 1033 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 7: there there are still to this day people in New York. 1034 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 7: What I was smiling during your question that there are 1035 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 7: people that I want to go like, what what are 1036 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 7: how are you doing? Like I do like I don't know, 1037 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 7: I want to go, Like what is what's your strategy? 1038 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: Like where do you live? How do you ben in Manhattan? 1039 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 7: Well? You can take it up from the bottom right. 1040 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 7: There are some dudes that do so many sets in 1041 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 7: the city. That's what they that's what they do. Like that, 1042 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 7: and I'm sure they tore some but like you know, 1043 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 7: if you do, because the Fat Black Pussycat is right 1044 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 7: around the corner from the cellar, you can go back 1045 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 7: and forth between those two clubs. I've done it and 1046 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 7: go up eight times at the night and. 1047 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: That's in your show. By the way, I just want 1048 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: to say a funny little connection here. Jessica Curson, who 1049 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: we should have on Donald is my stepsister and she 1050 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: is a very accomplished, that hilarious stand up comedian. 1051 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 2: She did it a unique way. 1052 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 4: Also, where she got she was already out there, but 1053 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 4: she got on through a reality television show. 1054 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was her. That was her introduction, started 1055 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: her up. 1056 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: She was on one of those what was it the 1057 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: comedian competition she was. Yeah. But also what I just 1058 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 1: wanted to say that one of the great things about 1059 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: Peete show Crashing is he had all the real people 1060 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: playing themselves. All the go to not all, but a 1061 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of the go to stand ups in this circuit 1062 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: are in the show, including my stepsister Jessica Curson was 1063 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: in a very funny episode where Pete and she are 1064 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: running back and forth between these two clubs. So I 1065 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: just had to digress and tell that. 1066 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: And then we go. 1067 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 7: She does another one where we go to North Carolina. 1068 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 7: She was in the only episode where we flew somewhere 1069 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 7: to shoot it, and she's just she's sweet as pie. 1070 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 7: I love her to death. I'm not just saying that. 1071 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: Like I have like a special She's someone you don't 1072 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: want to follow because she every time I see her. 1073 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: That's why I'm the most often that I'm in the 1074 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: Cellar is because Jessica's going up and I'm going to 1075 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: see her and I'm gonna see some other comics. Yeah, 1076 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: And every comic will tell me and they're not just 1077 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 1: saying this because she's my stepsister, Like you can't follow 1078 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: her because she's so funny and she's so outrageous. Donald. 1079 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen her do her thing? 1080 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I have so funny. 1081 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 7: She told me once she didn't like a crowd at 1082 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 7: the Cellar and she did the rest of her set 1083 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 7: with her back her back to them, which I was like. 1084 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 1: She does this sort of inner monologue thing where she'll 1085 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: she'll be performing and if and if something bombs, she 1086 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: goes upstage to the wall and turns around into the mic. 1087 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: She does like an inner monologue, like, don't listen to them, 1088 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: You're doing just great. This is very hard. You know, 1089 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not selling it well. 1090 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 7: But yes, great, Yeah, she's letting them into every element 1091 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 7: of the experience. So anyway, the answer is there's city 1092 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 7: spots and then the first break. For a lot of 1093 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 7: people in Mike, I'll just speak for myself. My first 1094 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 7: sort of foray into touring was colleges, and especially when 1095 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 7: you're in your twenties, colleges are incredible and there's things 1096 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 7: called NAKA. Musicians do it as well. It's a National 1097 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 7: Association of College Acts or something like that. You go 1098 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 7: to a NAKA. It's in a hotel. We did an 1099 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 7: episode about on crashing and people are curious. I'm very 1100 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 7: proud of the NAKA episode. I got a college agent. 1101 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 7: I'm forgiving out. I can't exactly remember how, but somebody 1102 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 7: probably a VHS tape that I sent and then they 1103 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 7: submit that VHS tape into naka's on your behalf. You 1104 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 7: have to pay it's like three hundred bucks just to 1105 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 7: submit again at a time when you don't have three 1106 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 7: hundred bucks, and then if you get in, it's a 1107 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 7: really big deal. I often didn't get in. I eventually 1108 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 7: finally got one. I went and you perform at like 1109 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 7: eleven in the morning. And who's there as all the 1110 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 7: people from our colleges that ran the Student Activities Council. 1111 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 7: So everybody's shirt says sack or CAB. They're all called 1112 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 7: soccer Cab, soccer Cab, Student Activities Council or CONCL. 1113 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: So they're the students. 1114 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're students. 1115 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: So they're students who have been tasked with booking the 1116 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: acts for this. 1117 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, but let's be real. These aren't the hippus students. 1118 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 7: These are are kids that wanted to run the yearbook. 1119 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: Basically they have a lot of power. Though they do 1120 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: have a. 1121 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 7: Lot of power, and that's what's so funny about it 1122 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 7: is you're kissing your my future, my rent, and my 1123 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 7: livelihood is now tied to my ability to not only 1124 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 7: perform well but also hobnob and the lobby of a 1125 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 7: highest regency with some eight nineteen year old girl who 1126 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 7: still has braces, and she's deciding whether or not they 1127 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 7: want to spend the eleven hundred dollars to have me 1128 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 7: come into the Upper Peninsula, Michigan and do a show 1129 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 7: at noon. You know what I mean. So it's a 1130 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 7: very I'm telling you, it's a never ending parade of humiliations. Guys, 1131 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 7: it's never ending. It doesn't end. I'm still doing it. 1132 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: So you do the set and then you have to 1133 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: go in the lobby and be like, so, Michelle, no, 1134 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: it's worse. 1135 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 7: You stand at a booth you after your set, pet Homestan, 1136 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 7: it's your My agency was called Auburn Moon. I would 1137 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 7: stand at the Auburn Moon booth and watch people walk by. 1138 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 7: So I did two necas, one where I did very well, 1139 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,399 Speaker 7: one where I didn't so one where you didn't do well. 1140 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 7: And you have to stand at the booth trying to 1141 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 7: hand out your merch because you're giving because college kids 1142 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 7: love free stuff, so you're trying to give them T 1143 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 7: shirts or trying to give them a water bottle or 1144 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 7: something like that, or a carabeaner that says Pete Holmes dot. 1145 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: And then see them let's say you didn't kill that day, 1146 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: and well yea, And so you see them gathering around 1147 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: the booth of the guy who killed and they're all 1148 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: get get the asease Carabina. 1149 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, dude, I don't know if he's ever didna. 1150 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 7: I think as blew up real fast and kind of 1151 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 7: pole vaulted that. But when I did it the first 1152 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 7: time and I knew it was a big deal, it 1153 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 7: was like I was more nervous, more jacked up for 1154 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 7: it than like my first late night or anything. It 1155 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 7: was like it really felt like no one will ever know, 1156 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It's not going to be 1157 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 7: on TV. But if I do this, it'll fill my calendar, 1158 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 7: like it'll fill out my whole year. And when I 1159 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 7: said eleven hundred dollars, that wasn't random like I would 1160 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 7: say the average I don't not even mid level, low level, 1161 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 7: but headlining early comedian, especially if you're clean, which I 1162 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 7: was clean at the time, you'd make about a grand 1163 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 7: unless they clumped them together. Now you're doing it for me. 1164 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: You get paid more if you're clean. 1165 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 7: You book more if you're clean, because. 1166 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 1: They don't want a lot of just don't want dirty talk. 1167 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. In fact, you once you book the gig 1168 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 7: and you get this a whole I could write a 1169 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 7: book on how to do colleges, but once you get 1170 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 7: there you can ask and say, really, that. 1171 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: A really good cock joke. Do you guys want it? Yeah? 1172 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's the same with you know, I do 1173 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,959 Speaker 7: corporate gigs now too, and they're always like, you book 1174 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 7: it because you can do an hour squeaky clean, and 1175 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 7: I can and I do and I like it. But 1176 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 7: sometimes you get there. Last one I did was for 1177 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 7: like liquor salesmen. I'm like, these guys want to and 1178 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 7: these men and women would like to hear about this 1179 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 7: sex story or whatever it is. They're gonna like it 1180 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 7: the sex joke. 1181 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: So anyway, there's a section in your new stand up 1182 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm not for everyone? Is that what it's called? 1183 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I am not for everyone. 1184 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: I am not for everyone where it's not dirty necessarily, 1185 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: but you speak in a very funny way about uh sexuality? Right? 1186 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: Is that the way way to put it? And I 1187 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: just thought it was so funny and interesting. But it 1188 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: would that be considered But would that section be considered 1189 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: all rated? 1190 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? Everything in my new special, with few exceptions, would 1191 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 7: be too edgy for a naka. But the great thing 1192 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 7: is is because I was raised religious, I fuck naka. 1193 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 7: I thought I was going to go to hell if 1194 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 7: I was a naughty boy. So I was way ahead of. 1195 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: The curve, right, something that's in Crashing and we haven't 1196 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: touched on and we can. We can just touch on 1197 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: it briefly. One thing that's interesting about your story is 1198 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: that you grew up quite religious, correct and then so 1199 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: part of the story of Crashing is not only is 1200 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: it Pete's story, he's a young, wide eyed stand up 1201 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: coming to town, but your character and you grew up 1202 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: very religious. 1203 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it really is sort of like a I 1204 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 7: don't want to say thrown into the wolve's den, but 1205 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 7: it had a little flavor of that more because of 1206 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 7: how sheltered eye was. And you know, Nate Bargatzi was 1207 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 7: there at the same time as me, and he and 1208 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 7: I bonded a lot over just like we're you know, 1209 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 7: we're afar away from the from the church life, which 1210 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 7: which was very sweet and nice. I'm not saying anything 1211 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 7: bad about it. Now everybody's you know, doing everything that 1212 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,479 Speaker 7: you could think, drugs, drinking, and there's a lot of like. 1213 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: When you're still a religious man, are you not? 1214 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 7: I'm a spiritu Yeah, it's a spirit deeply spiritual person. 1215 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 7: And that and that informs it. You know that we're 1216 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 7: changing gears a little bit. But it's like, I think 1217 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 7: there's a big difference between dirty and ugly. My comedy 1218 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 7: is very dirty, but it's not ugly, and I think 1219 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 7: you can do clean comedy that's very ugly. I think 1220 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 7: what you should really pick up on, thanks Ton, is 1221 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 7: like the undercurrent, like what values, what attitudes and perspectives 1222 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 7: are you championing? And if you don't say fuck, it 1223 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 7: doesn't matter. Did you just say a man should be 1224 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 7: able to hit a woman? Did you kind of like, 1225 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 7: let's really reduce what you just said. Isn't that what 1226 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 7: you just said? And this could be a clean comic? 1227 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 7: And then I go up and I say, like, you're 1228 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 7: the joke you're referencing. I think, is you know Kinsey approved. 1229 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 7: It's very interesting about the spectrum of sexuality and it's dirty. 1230 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 7: I'm talking about jerking off in sacks and all this stuff, 1231 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 7: but like, underneath that, I'm saying, we're all in this together. 1232 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 7: It's a sexuality strange and it's unifying, Like my goal 1233 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 7: is for it to be unifying. 1234 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: You never punched down in your and your kind and 1235 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: there's there's a kindness to your comedy. You're saying some outrageous, 1236 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: funny things, but you're not taking aim at anybody in 1237 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: a mean way. 1238 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 7: I appreciate that if I do take a cheap shot 1239 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 7: or punch down, even if it's briefly, it's because that's 1240 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 7: true to our experience, that everybody has a mind that 1241 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 7: occasionally thinks something that you don't approve of, and I 1242 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 7: think that's valuable to talk about as well. Meaning like this, 1243 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 7: I say this all the time, but the sweetest nun, 1244 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 7: the most gentle woman in the world, sometimes is stirring 1245 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 7: her coffee and she's like, I don't know why, but 1246 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 7: I don't like whatever. You know what I mean, I'm 1247 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 7: not I won't say it, but. 1248 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: Like, oh, I wanted you to go there. And just. 1249 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 7: Example I usually give is I'll be on a plane 1250 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 7: or something, I'm like, I don't know why, but I 1251 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 7: hate the back of this guy's head, like I fucking 1252 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 7: hate the shape and fucking this dumb hair. So one 1253 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 7: of the unifying things you can do. And I know 1254 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 7: I'm having my cake and eat it too. But if 1255 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 7: I do make a joke that's cheeky or a little 1256 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 7: bit wicked, it's because I'm trying to demonstrate shamelessly and 1257 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 7: innocently that all of us know how lonely it is 1258 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 7: to be stuck in these fucking outdated biological spaceships that 1259 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 7: because of the wiring and the pattern recognition and the 1260 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 7: judging and the labeling and the consumerism and everything, that 1261 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 7: all the impetus that we're constantly being flooded in your brain. 1262 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 7: It's like a fucking washing machine filled with marbles, and 1263 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 7: shit's flying out sometimes, and it's lonely and isolating and 1264 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,959 Speaker 7: honestly encouraging of dark and weird thoughts to not say, hey, 1265 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 7: sometimes I have a thought like this and it's fucking weird. 1266 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,479 Speaker 7: And if I can use my platform to make people 1267 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 7: feel less shame, that's great. And sometimes it might be 1268 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 7: at the expense of whatever, like some joke that you're 1269 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 7: not ooh, that you're not supposed to say that, yeah, okay, 1270 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 7: and here we are and here we are. You're also 1271 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 7: not supposed to think that, you're not supposed to feel 1272 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 7: that you're not supposed to do that, but we do. 1273 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 7: I have a joke in my New Hour about taking 1274 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 7: my daughter on a carousel, even though my friend like 1275 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 7: couldn't find his daughter, and I could have helped him 1276 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 7: look for his daughter, but it's a whole story. I'm 1277 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 7: not proud of that story. They found her, I. 1278 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: Can't find my daughter. Okay, I'm gonna go with that's. 1279 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 7: Exactly the joke. But that to me using a high 1280 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 7: status position loud voice, I'm talking, let's go back to 1281 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 7: being Bonobo's babies. You know what I mean, loud voice. 1282 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 7: I'm up high and I'm in the light. So that's 1283 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 7: an alpha position. And to use it instead of championing 1284 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 7: myself and telling you all my virtues and all my 1285 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 7: gloriousness like a dictator and how ineffable I am, instead 1286 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 7: being vulnerable enough to be like I should have not 1287 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 7: gotten on the carousel. That's more valuable because people are like, 1288 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 7: you know what, dude, in this flawed, imperfect thing. Sometimes 1289 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 7: I do that, And if and if you can laugh 1290 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 7: at me and then still quietly be like I've done 1291 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 7: stuff like that, that. 1292 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's the most common. 1293 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 7: What is gained if I get up and just tell 1294 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 7: you how fucking great I am and how perfect I am. 1295 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 7: And you know what I hate most comedy is just 1296 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 7: going up on staying and saying, isn't food great? Isn't 1297 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 7: sex great? Isn't winning great? Isn't isn't that's it? Isn't 1298 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 7: money great? 1299 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,439 Speaker 2: It's something I remember back in the day. 1300 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 4: It was always there was some women that would come 1301 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 4: on stage, a lot of women where my big women 1302 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 4: at that shit used to be like the first motherfucking my. 1303 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: God, wear my big women at him that. 1304 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 7: You know, what I hear constantly is who's drinking? But 1305 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 7: that is who's drinking? You guys partying and then you're 1306 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 7: into drinking, but that is also Look, I have respect 1307 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 7: for anyone doing comedy, so I'm not gonna, you know, 1308 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 7: broadstroke dismiss anyone. But if I go on stage and 1309 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 7: do a bit about how great alcohol is in a 1310 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 7: club where everyone's drinking, nothing has happened. People who already 1311 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 7: liked alcohol like alcohol. If I can go on stage 1312 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 7: and make them, and it doesn't have to be alcohol, 1313 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 7: but just kind of like take the other side for 1314 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 7: fun and get people to laugh at not even something 1315 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 7: that challenges them, but like something a little bit more 1316 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 7: interesting than just like, isn't aren't orgasms great? Isn't dopamine great? 1317 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 7: Isn't you know? Or a story where you go and 1318 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 7: I say, get the fuck out of here, clown, and 1319 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 7: everyone cheers for me. 1320 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 2: Right. 1321 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 1: Well, I thought you did that in spades with the 1322 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: run you do on sexuality and the Kinsey scale. I 1323 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: thought it was really funny and interesting and certainly not 1324 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: something I've seen anyone talk about in a comedy set. 1325 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was really unique. 1326 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 7: Thanks, man, I really appreciate it. 1327 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. 1328 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. What are 1329 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: your parents? Are they alive? What do they think of 1330 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 1: your comedy? I imagine they're religious. Still. 1331 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 7: You know what's really really weird is that my parents, 1332 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 7: my mom was more was very religious, and that was 1333 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 7: I wrote it in my book that my brother and 1334 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 7: my dad had sports and me and my mom had Jesus, 1335 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 7: and that was like our interest. We knew the stats, 1336 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 7: you know, you knew all the stats, all the teams. 1337 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 7: But like, as my mom's gotten older and I've gotten 1338 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 7: older as well, that's how it works. I've gotten way 1339 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 7: more spiritual and my mom's gotten a little bit less 1340 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 7: interested in that stuff, which which is not you know, 1341 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 7: she's eighty two and that's not my favorite. Only I've 1342 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 7: said before, I'm like, I wish it would be if 1343 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 7: my mom would be like comfortable and feel held in 1344 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 7: the world and be religious in a way that I 1345 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 7: don't share all of those beliefs, but like felt secure 1346 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 7: in the universe. That's my hope for her, and that's 1347 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 7: why now I push it on her a little bit, 1348 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 7: so at the tables of turn. But answer where I 1349 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 7: think you were going. My parents don't really know. I 1350 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 7: think they don't really know what to make of me 1351 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 7: to this day. 1352 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Do they watch it? Will they watch this new special? 1353 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, the last one that came out. I think they 1354 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 7: watched it with some church friends and then they just 1355 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 7: call me and we were so humiliated, and I'm like, 1356 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 7: you see, this is full circle, man, because me saying 1357 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 7: don't bring your friends is me also saying don't bring 1358 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 7: your family. No, it's not about them. And what I 1359 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 7: always say to my mom with all love and to 1360 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 7: my dad as well as I go, it's not for you. 1361 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 7: And any artist that's making something with what will my 1362 01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 7: parents think, isn't giving me all of themselves? And I'm here, 1363 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to, you know, blow my 1364 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 7: own horn, what is it? 1365 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Blow it to it? 1366 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 7: But I want to, like mine deep I want to 1367 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 7: share humiliations. I want to share vulnerable feelings. I want 1368 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 7: to make fun of my parents, you know what I mean. Like, 1369 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 7: I spent a lot of my life being like, yes, sir, 1370 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 7: and and this is your show and I'm just you know, 1371 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 7: I'm one of the one of your crew, you know 1372 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 7: what I mean. Like, and it's like, that's fucking over, man, 1373 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 7: I was. 1374 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Just talking iry to interrupt you, But that kind of 1375 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: informs the title. I'm not for everyone. You're saying, I'm 1376 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: not for mom and dad. No, I'm going to be vulnerable. 1377 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to do my thing. I'm definitely not for everyone. 1378 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 7: If it's for everyone, it sucks for everyone. 1379 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: It sucks, Amen, And that allowed for the people in back. 1380 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 7: That's really true. And dude, you see that in your 1381 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 7: films for sure, you know what I mean. 1382 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: For everyone, but no, but gosh, for the people that 1383 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: respond to them, it's such as that's the reason you 1384 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: make them. 1385 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 2: They say, that's why we're in this. 1386 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: We're not in you know, Scrubs was not for everyone. 1387 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're here doing a Scrubs podcast and all 1388 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the people listening obviously loved the show, but the show 1389 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 1: was never a runaway hit. Every season we were like, 1390 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: are we coming back? And that happened for nine years. 1391 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 7: I told this to Bill. I was like, that that show. 1392 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 7: I know. I said this to Zex's on the pod 1393 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 7: three times and I'm sure we've talked about the episode 1394 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 7: where j D is wondering how he'll die. He looks 1395 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 7: at you, Donald and you're eating a sandwich, and he's like, 1396 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 7: heart failure, you know what I mean? And he looks 1397 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 7: at him and then he looks at his own reflection 1398 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 7: and goes, I don't know, stress. I have the chills 1399 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 7: as I'm telling you this. I saw that stuff and 1400 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 7: I was like, that's what you're supposed to do with 1401 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 7: a platform. And again, we watched some popcorn shows. We 1402 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 7: watch things that are for we're not you know what 1403 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 7: I mean. We don't have to put down other things. 1404 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 7: I'm just saying there's a special place. I was just 1405 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 7: talking to a comedian where I was like, the money, 1406 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 7: it's for the discomfort of dealing with the people that 1407 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 7: might be like, why did you make that joke about me? 1408 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 7: But it's my fucking job. It's my job to risk it. 1409 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 7: That's really what the money is for, you know. Bb 1410 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 7: King used to say, I do the shows for free. 1411 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 7: They pay me to travel. I do the shows for free, 1412 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 7: they pay me to deal with the draining feeling. I 1413 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,839 Speaker 7: was just in Salt Lake City. I did four shows. 1414 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 7: I come back to the hotel, and I've been, you know, 1415 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,759 Speaker 7: making fun of my family, making fun of myself, sharing 1416 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 7: like I said that story about the carousel, and I'm 1417 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 7: just sort of like, you feel what my wife and 1418 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 7: I call everybody calls a vulnerability hangover. You feel hollow 1419 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 7: and tender. I was just rewatching Phantom Thread when he 1420 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 7: does his show and then he gets the next day, 1421 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 7: it just cuts to him in bed. I don't want 1422 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 7: to make it too dramatic here, but I'm like, that's 1423 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 7: what the money is for. It's for this feeling of like, 1424 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 7: oh my god, I just show my realness to a 1425 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 7: lot of people. Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent of voyeur. 1426 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 7: Part of me likes being seen and celebrated. But a 1427 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 7: lot of you goes like, I just really that was real. 1428 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: I think I first, I love that expression of vulnerability hangover. 1429 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I think I felt that every time I release a film. 1430 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: I feel, of course, I feel like, oh my god, 1431 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: you rip yourself open uh. And then and then of 1432 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: course you're you're judged positively or negatively. And then and 1433 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: then people's watching and they don't and then there's then 1434 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,879 Speaker 1: there's just quiet and you feel a vulnerability hangover, yeah. 1435 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 7: And you feel empty and you feel tender, and you 1436 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 7: feel just my wife is so good at it. But 1437 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 7: there is like a rebuilding process and that's a whole 1438 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 7: other podcast. But like getting your balls right, getting your 1439 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 7: family right, having interests outside of this. There's a lot 1440 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 7: of people in our town, you know, we never talk 1441 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 7: about comedy or anything. It's really good for my spirit. 1442 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 2: You know. I was about to say, how does that work? 1443 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 4: Like doesn't everyone when it's your profession and you're around 1444 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 4: your peers. 1445 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Do you guys talk about jokes all the time? Are 1446 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 2: you on? Is this? You know what I mean? 1447 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 7: Like I wouldn't call it on, you would love it. 1448 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 7: That's my answer is it's it's the best hanging with comedians, 1449 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,639 Speaker 7: especially if they're like minded comedians. There's still some ball 1450 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 7: breakers that aren't my favorites. But if I'm hanging out 1451 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 7: with Mike bro Bigli or I was just hanging out 1452 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 7: Eddief did my podcast today, it's heaven because they especially 1453 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 7: guys my age, men and women my age, they've been 1454 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 7: through a lot of the same stuff. So you said 1455 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,799 Speaker 7: trenches earlier, but there is a like you're bonded by 1456 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 7: having shared this experience and a lot of us we 1457 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 7: were doing it alone, and now we all get to 1458 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 7: get together and be like that was some shit, right, 1459 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 7: and like and support each other and you do. 1460 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 2: You know. 1461 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 7: I have it with you guys right now. But it's 1462 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 7: nice to be able to just go it's not weird 1463 01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 7: if I tell you I'm working on a bed about 1464 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 7: this and and just kind of say it and then 1465 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 7: they kick it back to you. 1466 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I love that with you. When I do Pete's show. 1467 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: By the way, for interested, I've done like you said, 1468 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I've done Pete's Show three times, and you can check 1469 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: it out. It's called you made it weird? 1470 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 7: Right In sex defense, we don't say the name of 1471 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 7: the show a lot. 1472 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you don't. 1473 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 7: There's no reason you should really know it. 1474 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: I've done it three times. I should be definitive. 1475 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 7: No, I'm saying you shouldn't. Every time you've done it, 1476 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 7: I haven't been like, welcome to you made it weird. 1477 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 7: I'm here with that, but it never comes up. 1478 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: But the reason, the reason I keep doing it, honestly, Pete, 1479 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 1: and I hope we graduate to being real friends in 1480 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 1: real life. But I I just love coming and laughing 1481 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: with you. I think we have we. 1482 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Haven't coming and laughing. 1483 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 7: I love coming in that order to the release laughter. 1484 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: I love laughing with you. We have a very someatimes 1485 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: of humor. And the last time I did it, Donald, 1486 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: we brought up Glen Gary Glenn Ross and spent the 1487 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 1: bulk of the episode just just purely probably poorly quoting 1488 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: Glengary Glenross. 1489 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,839 Speaker 7: I would put it to Mammot himself that it was excellent. 1490 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 7: I mean that movie all all my comedian friends, most 1491 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 7: of them are obsessed with that movie, and it goes 1492 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 7: all the way up to Seinfeld. He's not my friend, 1493 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 7: but like I know a lot of comedians that love 1494 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 7: that movie because it talks about the brutality of selling 1495 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,640 Speaker 7: your wares, of like salesmen that have to use their 1496 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 7: personalities to like kind of get ahead. So of course 1497 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 7: comedians would relate. 1498 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: Well, they must have loved our episode, Pete, because that's 1499 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: mostly what we talked about. 1500 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, Jodo Ros and I text each other exclusively in Glengarry. 1501 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Quotes, Yeah, I've exhausted the only gifts available on I 1502 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,639 Speaker 1: message to you. I believe there's only a couple. There's 1503 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: always closing going to Safari. Yeah, you help me find 1504 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: better Glen Glen Ross gifts. Yeah, Pete, thank you so 1505 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: much for coming on. I Am not for everyone. Is 1506 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: on Netflix on October twenty fourth. That's right, not a 1507 01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 1: question mark, an exclamation point and audience, I'm telling you. 1508 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 1: I saw this live with Bill Lawrence and I. I 1509 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: remember it was a holiday, right, Pete was Labor Day 1510 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,559 Speaker 1: or Memorial Days, one of those days, and we were 1511 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: both kind of tired, and we said, let's go. It's 1512 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Pete's hilarious. It'll be great, and we went and I 1513 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,480 Speaker 1: genuinely laughed my butt off. It's so funny and so smart, 1514 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: and I encourage you all to check it out. Thanks man, Donald, 1515 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: say something nice about Pete. 1516 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 7: Donald, You're welcome anytime. He's salty. 1517 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Donald, come, don Are you willing to talk about 1518 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: Are you to talk about Star Wars? Where are you 1519 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: on Star Wars? Because that's Donald's favorite thing to talk about. 1520 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 4: He knows Bill, he knows Bill Burr. He was in 1521 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 4: Star Wars. That's how I found out who Bill Burr was. 1522 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 7: Actually, because he was in The Mandalorian. 1523 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Because he was on the Mandalorian, I was like, who 1524 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: is this guy? 1525 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: Pete? Could you fill an hour with Donald talking about 1526 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 1: here the key? 1527 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 2: I had been watching him like on the Chappelle Show 1528 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 2: back in the day and all that. 1529 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that Racial Draft. 1530 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can do Marvel Star Wars stop motion 1531 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 1: animation as a focus. Uh, sports basketball. If you could 1532 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 1: fill an hour with that, Donald will crush your podcast. Uh, 1533 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: bag of dits. 1534 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna We're not gonna go into that. 1535 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 1: Pete Holmes, we love you. The special is called I 1536 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: Am Not for everyone. Yeah, but Pete, in my mind, 1537 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: you're for me. 1538 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 7: You're definitely, and that's what we've learned. Thank you, definitely, 1539 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 7: really really cool. 1540 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 2: You are fucking Batman dude, you are bad. 1541 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 7: Thank you? Oh yeah, the Batman series is on YouTube now. 1542 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 7: We're dropping every Thursday. By the time this comes out, 1543 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 7: they might all be out, but we're firing everybody on theh. 1544 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Why didn't you ask Donald or me to be a 1545 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 1: character and that fucking thing. 1546 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 7: If we thought Donald would do it, leave you out 1547 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 7: of it. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. 1548 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did your funny Friends, but I never got 1549 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: the email. 1550 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 7: You'd be great. I mean we we still have a 1551 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,600 Speaker 7: lot of people to fer. We need a riddler. We 1552 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 7: could do riddler, we can do. We want to do 1553 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 7: poison Ivy commissioner Gordon. 1554 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: Who could Donald? 1555 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah you could. 1556 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,599 Speaker 7: Be Gordon, Yeah you could be modern Gordon. But Mat 1557 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 7: McCarthy is our Gordon. We already you already got Sorry, 1558 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,759 Speaker 7: who can Donald be? That's a great Gordon, the newest Gordon. 1559 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 7: I don't know, but the Batman. 1560 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Impressions you do a nice you. You don't do impressions 1561 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: on stage, but you are pretty good at impressions. 1562 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 7: They come out sometimes and it evolved from good to 1563 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 7: pretty good. 1564 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,679 Speaker 1: And do you want to give us a quick al pacino? 1565 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: And then we have to go. 1566 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 9: Pete, I want to say you thank you so much 1567 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 9: for having me on his podcast. It's been wonderful to 1568 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 9: sit with my friend zach Rath and Donald. 1569 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 1: Or I'll give. 1570 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 7: I like my aides to be presentable. I've gone with 1571 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 7: my mouth. That's shore taking it out. It's a little 1572 01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 7: bit better without the gun. 1573 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Al. We usually end the show by counting five to 1574 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 1: six seven eight. Would you count us out? Five six, 1575 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: seven eight is Alpha shooting? Hell yeah A five six. 1576 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 5: Here's some stories that show we made about a bunch 1577 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 5: of times and nurses in Jana, I said, here's a 1578 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:25,400 Speaker 5: story net. All s no, so gadder round you here, 1579 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 5: our gadder round you here, our sweat show. Is that no,