1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: As a late fifteen to ten touchdown doc. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. We are presented by Microsoft Surface as always, 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: joined by Matt Money Smith Money. A lot going on 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: in the world of the NFL, between the wild card games, 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: the divisional games coming up, and all of the coaching rumors, 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: a lot of smoke on X. I'll say that this week. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: No doubt and that's you know, unfortunately, you know, I 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: saw Mike McCarver doing this Thursday morning. I saw Mike 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: McCarthy's presser, and look, I understand, you know, it's it's tough. 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 3: You have families, you got kids, they hear about, you know, 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: what a bad job your dad is doing, and that 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: you're going to be plucked out of your school and 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: move to some other city, and you know it comes 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: with a job. Yeah, you know, I can't remember. I 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: think it was Bill Parcells who said it. You you 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: get into this business knowing that you're going to get fired. 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: It's just that it's a sad reality of the business. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: And you're talking about this on the radio show with Petros. 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: I think it was yesterday, maybe the day before. It's 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: about probably day before I think, see, you know, it's 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: interesting what's happened because we're focused on Jim Harbaugh, right, 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: and here's someone that won a national championship at Michigan, 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: and this is someone who was essentially fired for all 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: intents and purposes, like right in that COVID season when 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: they went too and four, they cut his salary. You know, 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: the rumor was that John had arranged that meeting with 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: the Vikings to try to get a little bit heat 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: on his brother's name so he could, you know, prove 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: that he's a valuable commodity and Michigan was going to 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: bring him back. Like that's how capricious this business is. 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: And now he is the most sought after coach in 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: this coaching cycle. And yet three four years ago everybody 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: assumed he was getting canned, and he was and no 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: one was going to touch him. And that was it 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: for Jim Harbaugh. And yet here we are. And so 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I think it's just a reminder of what what it's 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: like in the NFL when you decide this is going 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: to be the profession, When you choose this as your profession, 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: it goes with it. 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Is it fair? 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: Not always sometimes yes, But that's just the reality the 43 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: players make too much money, they're too valuable, they're too 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: hard to find. So when things go wrong, the coach 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: ends up wearing it. And that's how we end up 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: in a position where we're in right now, where Bill 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Belichick has won six Super Bowls is looking for a gig. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel has done arguably the best job in coaching 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: in the last six years since he's been the head 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: coach in Tennessee, and he's looking for a job in 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is now trying to get back into the 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: NFL after getting the boot over four seasons in San Francisco, 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: and all he did was take the team to three 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: straight championship games and one Super Bowl. 55 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mike McCarthy wins twelve games in each of 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: the last three years, and his job was being called 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: for Nick Siriani with to a Super Bowl and was 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: ten and one at one point. His job, as we 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: tape this, still TBD. So it's not an easy profession. 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you see whatever the coach did last and that 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: is kind of the okay wow, Like, for instance, Jim Harball, 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: just we're a national championship. You talk about a hot 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, like a Ben Johnson man, he's leading one 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: of the best offenses in the NFL. So the last 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: thing you see is kind of the gateway into becoming 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: a head coach or moving to another place. And you know, 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: the Chargers have done a great job money keeping fans 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: up to date with the general manager and head coaching 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: interview process by kind of listing it on x I 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: couldn't help. But notice though that the Jim Harball announcement 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: got five million views on X so if that doesn't 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: tell you the interest level among the fans. And obviously 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: they have interviewed a lot of well qualified candidates at 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: both the GM and the head coaching position, but one 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: name seems to stick out right now, as we taped. 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: This same thing, had that conversation about the Instagram because 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: I stay away from Twitter as much as possible. 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: It's a cesspool. 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: But Instagram good idea. By the likes, Oh yeah, the 80 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: likes ninety four though I was ninety seven thousand when 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: I had checked to do the story for the radio show, 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: ninety seven thousand. The next highest was fifteen thousand. Now 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: I get that Jim Harbaughs is a much bigger name 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: than Steve Wilkes. Or Mike McDonald. But you know, ninety 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: seven thousand compared to fifteen thousand is quite drastic, So 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, I think it it's twofold for the Chargers. Right, 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: You're in a really tough market. You're in a market 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: with the Lakers who have Lebron James. You're in a 89 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: market with the Dodgers who just signed Shoheo Tani. And 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: we recognize what the competition. You know, Sean McVay has 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford and the Rams, 92 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley has a Heisman Trophy winner, and Caleb Williams 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: idiot is competitive here. And I can't help but think 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: that that's a big part of the consideration. First thing 95 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: you need to do is find the right coach, a 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: coach that's going to be the best partner for Justin 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Herbert right, and the look alliteration to me is King, right, 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: Belichick and Brady two b's, Herbert and Harbaugh two ahes. 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Let's just make that connection right there and pair him 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: up and let's roll. But I think there is something 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: to be said about having a coach a head coach, 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: and we've seen it with the Rams. He's the biggest star. 103 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: Mcveigh's the biggest star on the Rams. He's bigger than 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald, He's bigger than Cooper Cup, He's bigger than 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford and pukain Akua. He's the star of the 106 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: show because he's just dynamic and he wins. So I 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: do think there is there is something that separates Jim 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: Harbaughugh from everybody else that we're talking about in this 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: coaching cycle. 110 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Sean mcvayh shows you money that 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: you can get a coach in a lot of different ways. 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: He was thirty years old offensive coordator of Washington when 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: they hired him, and really, you know, unproven as a 114 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: head coach. He proved it very very quickly. Harball, on 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: the other hand, coming off a national championship, when you 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: talk about the national headlines and the attention that Jim 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: Harball is going to attract wherever he goes next, you 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: couple that with Justin Herbert, if it is in Los 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: Angeles Sofi Stadium, a new facility. Football is king in 120 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: the United States, And you're one hundred percent right when 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 2: we talk about the Lakers and the Dodgers, the Clippers 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: announcing an All Star Game right up the street from 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: so far. You know, a new era there in Clipper 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: basketball with stars up and down their roster. But if 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: you can make inroads in this market with Jim Harball 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert, a I gotta do is win. And 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Jim Harball is a proven winner at every level. So 128 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: that's why there's interest. And I think when we see 129 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback that we think Justin Herbert is pairing 130 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: him with somebody who's done nothing but elevate the quarterback 131 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: position wherever he's gone seems like a no brainer. Like 132 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: guys like Mike McDonald think Mike McDonald's gonna be a 133 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: really good head coach, right, you know, Ben Johnson could 134 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: be a really really good head coach. But it's about 135 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: fit at this moment. 136 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: And I think if you'm gonna I'm gonna jump in 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: right there, though, Chris, because I think you just said 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: I think you just said it, right. I think I 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: think we don't know. And that's the difference to me 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: in this coaching cycle, right is we know Jim Harbaugh 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: is a great coach. 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: We think Mike we can't afford. 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: Think we can't afford think. 144 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Right, that's what I mean, right, Yeah, no doubt, Yeah. 145 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: You can't afford think when the last three hires have 146 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: been first time head coat. I think, right, So that's 147 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: that's kind of what I think everybody collectively is thinking 148 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: right now, is can we get a proven commodity. And 149 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: even if you took Harball out of the equation, you 150 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: mentioned Mike Rabil, you mentioned Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, there's 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who have done it before, even 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn to a degree, you know who went to 153 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, who have been head coaches before. I 154 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: think that's what this franchise needs is somebody who has 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: lived through it, who has had adversity, who has had success, 156 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: and can kind of navigate this franchise into a new era. 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: With Herbert Undersenter, well, it's cyclical, right, and it's cyclical 158 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: inside of a team concept, but it's also cyclical in 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: the league as a whole. And you often hear, well, 160 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: we had a player's coach, now we need a discipline aarian. 161 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: We had the offensive coach, now we need the defensive coach. 162 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: And that tends to be how it works. Just it 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: is something you try something, it fails, you swing to 164 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: the complete opposite side of the spectrum when it comes 165 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: to the higher But what's happened in the NFL, and 166 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a correction, it's a course correction. Is 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: because of the success that Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan 168 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: experienced and they were both hired in the same cycle. 169 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: It led the NFL to chase. And if anybody has 170 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: experienced chasing in Vegas, you know it doesn't end well. 171 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: You get down on the first day, you're there for 172 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: three more days and you're chasing it and before you 173 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: know it, you're in a heck of a hole. And 174 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 3: the NFL started chasing. They were chasing the young dynamic. 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: You know, well spoken, can present it, can talk circles 176 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: around everybody else when it comes to schematics and play calling, 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: and they all wanted it, and that's what everyone was after. 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: And it's been the last six years or the last 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: five years that we've seen all of these hires, the 180 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni, Shane Stike and Brandon Staley, Brian Dabe, they're 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: all play callers. And now this particular site, Michael, What's 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: and I'm not just talking about the names that are 183 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: being batted around. I mean just the talking heads, the 184 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: debate shows, the hot take shows, what the even when 185 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: you get into like the the NFL radio stuff and 186 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: the people that have been around it forever they are now, 187 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: it is so on point. It is the number one 188 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: talking point that the NFL owners and general managers became 189 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: too smitten with a scheme with a play caller and 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: did not recognize you need someone to build culture, to 191 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: set a tone, to make sure the building is right. 192 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: And that's what I think people realized that when in 193 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: this we I think we've discussed this here. 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: I feel like we have. 195 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, that was that was a huge part in 196 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: my opinion of Brandon Staley's downfall is his persistence at 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: being perceived as a top play caller and not recognizing 198 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: that wasn't his job. His job was not to call 199 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: the defense. He wasn't the defensive coordinator. He's the head coach. 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: And he was so focused on being a great defensive 201 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: coordinator and calling a great game that he lost. You 202 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: know that he didn't see the forest for the trees 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: and that's what brought him down. And it happens to 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: a ton of them. And I can't you know, Brian 205 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: Dave Ball when he said no, I'm not calling plays, 206 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: I thought it was such you know, just here's someone 207 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: that was hired because of how good of a play 208 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: caller he was and the development he had. In Josh Allen, 209 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: He's like, no, there is way too much to do 210 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: as a head coach that I can't be worried seven 211 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: eight plays. When you're a play caller, you got to 212 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: be thinking about Okay, this is third and six, but 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: if we get the first down, now, I'm already thinking 214 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: about first and second down, and that just gets in 215 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: the way of everything. And so it feels like this cycle, 216 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: everybody has got back to the most important thing is 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: set the culture, make sure the building is right, hire 218 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: great assistance, and be a leader of men. And that's 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: it feels like that's what all of these candidate it'sorry 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: this time around. 221 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: I think Dan Campbell is kind of the blueprint for 222 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people, right who kind of lets Ben 223 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Johnson do his thing, let's Aaron Glenn do his thing. 224 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: And the only exception to that rule money. It seems 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: like I'm just going to call it the Mike Shanahan 226 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: coaching tree because Sean McVeigh knows football. He knows ball 227 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: and he calls the plays. Kyle Shanahan, you know, learn 228 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: from his dad who went and who won two Super Bowls. 229 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: He calls the plays, but he knows how to set 230 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: a culture. And you kind of look at Matt Lafleur 231 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: right now calling the plays. But for some reason, I 232 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: think that that Shanahan tree is like the one exception 233 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: to the rule. Now you look at like Bobby Slowek 234 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: right now, who's in that head coaching candidate pool right now? 235 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: So but you're right, like, there's a lot of young 236 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: guys and there's a lot of play callers who seem 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 2: so singularly focused on the one thing that made them successful. 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: But guess what, there's about ten things that a head 239 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: coach is going to have to do setting the cultures 240 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: number one. That's why I love what Jim Harball has 241 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: done done in his career because his teams are tough 242 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: man like. You don't typically hear about an offensive minded 243 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: coach who like leads with physicality and toughness. That's what 244 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: That's what Jim Harball has done. Everywhere from Stanford to 245 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: San Francisco to Michigan, there's there's a toughness among his teams. 246 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: He's played the game, and you know, there's a lot 247 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: of great coaches who didn't play the game. But I 248 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: think in the case of a guy like Dan Campbell 249 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: who like lived through tough moments and like was in 250 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: the fox hole as a player, I always give you know, 251 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: coach Linn a lot of credit that that twelve and four, 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: nine and seven two year window where he had some success. 253 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: Man coach Lynn was a leader of men, and I 254 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: know it didn't work out here, but I think there's 255 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: something to be said about a guy who has had 256 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: a multitude of experiences, including playing in the National Football League, 257 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: and Jim Harball has been everywhere and he's as tough 258 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: as it gets. And I think i've that's why we 259 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: keep going back to that name, and why fans are 260 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: so attracted to it, no. 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: Doubt, and I think you know, just to go to 262 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: your coach limp point one hundred percent. 263 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: Players loved him. He was a leader of men. He 264 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: got in his own way. He started calling offensive plays. 265 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: You know, when when Shane took over, he wanted a 266 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: piece of that action, and oftentimes he wanted to be 267 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: the guy that was calling the plays inside the twenty 268 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: or critical plays. He was trying to find the perfect play. 269 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: And we know that one of the knocks on coach 270 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: was time management and calling time outs and when to 271 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: go for it and when not and why are we 272 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: running it on third and four? And there was a 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: lot of that. And it's like, I think, if you 274 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: just hire someone that you trust, you know, and you 275 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: look at some of the names that are available on 276 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball, for Jim Hart, look 277 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: Greg Mormons, Greg Romans out there. You know, he was 278 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: let go by Baltimore. He was replaced by Todd Monkin. 279 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: Obviously they're experiencing great success. But it's not like Greg 280 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: coach Lamar Jackson do an MVP season. He was with 281 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Jim in San Francisc go all those years coordinating that offense, 282 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: you know, taking a team to three championship game. 283 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Was Greg Roman was a hot head coaching candidate in 284 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: San Francisco. 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, exactly, because he had Colin Kaepernick a second 286 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: round pick and they were taking the league by storm. 287 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: They figured out, they figured out, Like that's the thing 288 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: about you know, you mentioned Matt Lafleur and what he 289 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: was able to do to Dallas. You know, bright offensive mine. Okay, 290 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: I see what dan Quinn's doing. I know how to 291 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: find the soft spots. I'm gonna do it. We're gonna 292 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: tear him up. Maybe they adjust, but until they do, 293 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna keep doing this. And he found it, you know. 294 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: And Mike McCarthy didn't, you know, he just didn't. He 295 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: was calling the plays. He couldn't figure it out. So 296 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: I do think there's value in that. But that's something 297 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: that And who did Jim Harbaugh hire to coordinate his 298 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: defense in San Francisco? Vic Fangio didn't care. This guy's 299 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: larger than life, bigger than me. Brought him into Stanford, 300 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, the guy's most respected defensive coordinator in the 301 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: league and didn't care. These guys are great coordinators. I'm 302 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: gonna be the head coach. I'm gonna run the program. 303 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna set the tone. These guys are gonna call 304 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: the plays. They're gonna they're gonna be able to do it, 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, on each side of the ball. I'll empower them. 306 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: And that's you know, and that's kind of I think 307 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: what we've now returned to as opposed to, Oh, I've 308 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: got to find a head coach on the offensive side 309 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: of the ball that can develop a quarterback that has 310 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: a scheme that wins. 311 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: That's a great play caller. 312 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: Yes, if you can get but if you can get 313 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: Andy Reid, great, great, you know, but the Kyle Shanahan, 314 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: Sean McVay, Andy Reid's are so few and far between it. 315 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: And I mean, even for all the celebration that we're given, 316 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: Matt lafleur Man guy had home field advantage against the 317 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: forty nine ers two years ago with the best record 318 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: in the league and couldn't score fourteen points. So, like, 319 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: I appreciate what he was able to do with a 320 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. And there is no hotter quarterback in the 321 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: league right now than Jordan Love and what he's done 322 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: the last eight weeks in the playoff game, no doubt. 323 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: But let's not forget success really was not there in 324 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: the postseason with Aaron Rodgers with coach lafleur So quarterback, 325 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: maybe it was a quarterback I would love it if 326 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: it were. You have no idea how much I would 327 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: love that if it were Chris one hundred percent. So 328 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: I think that's why we keep going back to this 329 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: one name, you know, And and if they had interviewed 330 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, or if they had interviewed Mike Rabil already, 331 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'd be talking about that as well, that 332 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 3: had any of these three this, But it does, and 333 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: that's what leads me to think that this there's a look, 334 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: the guys get paid a ton of money to be 335 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: right on information. Adam Schefter and Tom Pelsero and Ian 336 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: Rappaport and Jordan Schultz and all these guys get paid 337 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: a lot of money to be right, and every single 338 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: one of them is said the same thing. That it 339 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: appears as though there is intent on each side to 340 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: make this happen. And I don't think they're writing that 341 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: and posting that unless they're hearing it from their sources 342 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: inside each you know, inside each side of this negotiation. 343 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Adam Schefton made it very clear that 344 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: the Jim Harball is big fan of Justin Herbert, right, 345 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: so right when that type of information comes out there, 346 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: right you just people are excited right now. And like 347 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: I said, there's a lot of smoke on Twitter, a 348 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of unreliable sources that are being 349 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad you don't go on X money. I don't 350 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: think we've talked about that as of late, so it's. 351 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: Good for you. 352 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: No, I try to avoid it as as best as possible. 353 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: I enjoy I enjoy Instagram. I enjoy my interactions there. 354 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: I find it to be a much more pleasant platform. 355 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: And Twitter is nothing but a nightmare, complete and total nightmare. 356 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: All right, guys, A big thank you to our partner 357 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: Microsoft Surface, the official sideline technology provider end laptop of 358 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: the NFL and the Los Angeles Chargers that provides players 359 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: and coaches with the tools to succeed both on and 360 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: off the field. Check out the powerful Surface Pro nine, 361 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: combining the power of a laptop with the flexibility of 362 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: a tablet at Surface dot com. Hey, I wanted, I 363 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: wanted to bring up another name to kind of in 364 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: that same vein as as Dan Campbell, But man, I 365 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 2: think he's going to be an absolute superstars Demiko Ryans. 366 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: Did you see did you see the micd up of 367 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: him talking to the linebacker Ian Cunningham basically telling him 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: what to do to get a pick six off of 369 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and boom, you know, and that's the type 370 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: of play that changes a game. And to to your 371 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: point about just a coach who kind of oversees everything 372 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: and can put you in our right position to be 373 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: successful in a pivol game like money. We're starting to 374 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: see kind of a a power shift in football right 375 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: now with all these uncertain head coaches and quarterbacks. You're 376 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: looking at CJ. Stroud, a rookie, a rookie quarterback, and 377 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: a rookie head coach in their first year to do 378 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: what they're doing. There's so many young quarterbacks and and 379 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: you know, then we look at New York and Aaron Rodgers. 380 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: It just seems like, man like, you guys are way 381 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: behind the eight ball right now because there's a lot 382 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: of teams in the AFC that you have to contend with. 383 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know if I'd be worried about Aaron 384 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: Rodgers and the Jets as much as I'd be worried 385 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: about c. J. Stroud in the Texans or what's going 386 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: on in the AFC North. All four of those teams 387 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow coming back. So it's such an interesting 388 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: time to be a fan of football. And you know, 389 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: the parody is real, and that's why I think Chargers 390 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 2: fans should be excited about whoever comes in here. You know, 391 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: you can turn things around very quickly. 392 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: The point you made about Demiko is very reminiscent of 393 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: what we used to hear about Bill Belichick. Yeah, you know, 394 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: he wasn't calling the defensive plays. He would set the 395 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: defense and he would set the tone in the you know, 396 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: over the course of the week of practice. But during 397 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: the game you would always hear about how or in 398 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: the weeks, you know, in the week leading up to 399 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: the game, how he would pop his head into the 400 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: quarterback room and sit with Tom and say, hey, I 401 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: noticed this is what they're doing. Look at this. If 402 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: you see this, look this is going to be I 403 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: know what the doing here. Like That's what he's doing 404 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: during the game is he's observing. He's not calling the defense. 405 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: He's busy watching what's going on and he can figure 406 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: it out. And that's when he reaches, you know, to 407 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator whoever, says hey, I see this defense, 408 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: I know what they're in. 409 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: This is a winner. This is a winning play. 410 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: And you hear stories like that all the time about 411 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Belichick because he's watching the big picture. He's not focused 412 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: on if this, if this works, I'm gonna get him 413 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: in third and eight, so what's my third night call 414 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: going to be? But if they gain three, it's gonna 415 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: be third and five. And this is what my third 416 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: And that's the problem with calling plays is you miss 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: the big pictures. It's too fine a point on it 418 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: is what you have. So it's a great point about 419 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 3: Tmiko because that's you know, that's something that and look, 420 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: he's a guy that came from Kyle Shanahan who wanted 421 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: who wants complete control over the offense. And that I understand. 422 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: He's the best play caller in the NFL. So you know, 423 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Andy Reid, I get there. There is a body of 424 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: work there that shows you're gonna take a hit if 425 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: they're not the one call in the plays. They're so 426 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: darn good at it. Same with Sean McVay. So that 427 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: part I get. But again, there's so many different ways 428 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 3: to make this work. And you know, year in and 429 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: year out, when you see who makes it to the 430 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, you know, look at Nick Sirianni last year, 431 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: you know, with with the Eagles and Shane Steichen's the 432 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 3: one calling the plays, but sirian is the one that's 433 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: overseeing it, you know. And and so I think there's 434 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: a bunch of different ways to do it. 435 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: Whichever way you know that that. 436 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: Dean and John, the Spanoses and and Ed and everybody 437 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: decide they're going to go to me. I just feel 438 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: like for the last three, you know, the last three coaches, 439 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: it just feels like it's it's again, it's all lending 440 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: itself to this one particular destination, and again that Jim 441 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: Harbaugh wants to do it. He's got to want to 442 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 3: do it, you know, that's the one thing you can't control. 443 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: You can present him with an offer that you think 444 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: he can't refuse. You can present him with a roster 445 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: that includes Justin her Herbert, you know, and Rashaun Slater 446 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: and the number five overall pick, you know. And however 447 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: he wants to approach it with those big four, if 448 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: it's a restructure, if it's a trade, if it's a cut, 449 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: if it's figuring out how to bring all four of 450 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: them back with with Khalil, Joey, Keenan and Mike, you know, 451 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot of options for him that I believe 452 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: are attractive. And especially if you give him, you know, 453 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: a big runway, you know, a five year runway, something 454 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: along those lines, and you know, a five year runway 455 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: that can turn into a ten year runway if you 456 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: if you win a Super Bowl and you can get 457 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: settled and you can hang out here and perhaps retire 458 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: at seventy if if everything goes as great as we 459 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: think it's going to go. 460 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: Money last point by me and guys, if something happens 461 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: between now and our next charges weekly, well we'll come 462 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: with a little reactionary pod at some point. I don't 463 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: know when it's going to be, if it's going to 464 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: be at any time in the next week, but we'll 465 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: bring you something is as things start to develop here. 466 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: But my last point is really when you look beyond 467 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: the head coach. Philly is a great example. They lost 468 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: Shane Steiken and Jonathan Gannon and they suffered down the stretch, right, 469 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's picking the correct coordinators and having an 470 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: A plus staff behind your head coach. So whoever it's 471 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: gonna be, that's what That's almost like one A to me. 472 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, who you bring it in to be 473 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator? Who you bring it in to be 474 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator? And you know, at this time of 475 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: year we see staffs get rated and you know, you 476 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: have to replenish. So that's going to be a very 477 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: interesting part of the processes. Whoever comes in, what is 478 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: the coaching staff going to look like? And if it's 479 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: a guy like Harball, we've seen some of his assistants 480 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: both at Michigan in San Francisco, like you mentioned, you 481 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: mentioned Fangio, you mentioned rom and I think Pep Hamilton 482 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: was in Michigan with him for a for a stint. 483 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 3: About David Shaw, he's out of a job right now. 484 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: You know, James Shaw was o CE at Stanford, you know, 485 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: and his assistant head coach for four years. 486 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: Before he took over. 487 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: So is it mintor the DC there? 488 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: Uh? 489 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, in Michigan he had he had a great year. 490 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: McDonald was there, Mike McDonald was there, so he was. 491 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: There on loan for for a year. 492 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So you know, I was pulling up the you know, 493 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: all the different the different interviews, and you look through 494 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: the general managers and you know Terrence Gray and Cunningham, 495 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: uh and then just recently Jeff Ireland had Dodds. It 496 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: seems as though they've pretty much made their way through 497 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 3: almost everyone that they've requested, So I don't think they've 498 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: interviewed Jeff King or Will McClay yet. But outside of that, 499 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: after yesterday or I don't know if yesterday was Dodds 500 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: in Ireland or if it was I think it was 501 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: Gray Ireland and Dodds, We're all yesterday, So, you know, 502 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: with with those done now, the only interviews that are 503 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: left in terms of requests are Raheem Morris whose rams 504 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: were just eliminated, Dan Quinn whose Cowboys were just eliminated, 505 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: and then Ben Johnson Aaron Glenn who were still alive. 506 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: So it does feel like we're we're at the end 507 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: of this because they can if they want to wait 508 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: for Ben and Aaron and those guys, you know, they 509 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: can do that after this weekend in terms of in 510 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: person if they want to get them out here. So 511 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: I feel like it's I feel like it's kind of 512 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: it's been exhaustive, that's for sure. I mean one, two, three, 513 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 3: four five, I mean we're talking about almost ten general 514 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: manager candidates, two four, six, eight nine head coaching interviews. 515 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: I mean that they said it was going to be 516 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: that they were going to have an exhaustive search, and 517 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: they certainly have. They talked to a lot of people. 518 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: So where it ends up we you know, nobody knows. 519 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: It's all what he you know, it all depends on 520 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: what you think your team needs at that given moment. 521 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones thinks his team needs another year of Mike McCarthy. 522 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: A lot of people would disagree with that, but that's, 523 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: you know, that's what he thinks, and who knows, maybe 524 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: depending on you know, I hope he sticks around. I 525 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: hope there's a way for Kellen Moore to be sold on, 526 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: you know, sticking around and trying to keep this offense 527 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: very similar to you know, maybe maybe there's a way 528 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: that he and the next head coach can work together. 529 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: But if not, I could totally see Jerry saying, hey, 530 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: let's bring Kellen back. Let's just let's get this off 531 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: your plate and let's you know, it's something you guys 532 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 3: can get a more collect you know what I'm saying, Like, 533 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: there's just so many different ways to go about it, 534 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: and like that would not surprise me at all. I 535 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: think Dan Quinn, after that playoff game and the way 536 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur just humiliated him, is going to have a 537 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: little bit of a struggle here in this head coaching cycle. 538 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 3: Fair not it's one game. I guy coach multiple Pro Bowlers, 539 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: all pros. You know, he certainly deserves better than than 540 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: what the incoming that he's taking, you know, considering how 541 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: well is defense have played in the playoffs in the past, 542 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: you know, and it was the offense that let the 543 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys down. But you know, it's the last. 544 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Thing that's the case. 545 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: It's the last thing you see. And I think that 546 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: that's going to be no doubt that that's going to 547 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: be a question in dan Quinn's interview, is what happened 548 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: last week. 549 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: But you know what the big thing, Chris, honestly is, 550 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: I would assume most owners or president of football operations 551 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: would say, I can't I can't get this guy out 552 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: at a press conference. I can't introduce this guy to 553 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: the fans after that. We can't sell this like we 554 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: could have if it would have been a fourteen to 555 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: thirteen Cowboys lose to the Packers and Dak and Mike 556 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: McCarthy disappoint again and no clock management and Dak threw 557 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: a pick sick. 558 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can sell that. 559 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't sell Jordan Love throwing to guys that 560 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: are wide open, you know, and absolutely demolish you know, 561 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: the Cowboys defense that had been so good all season 562 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: long and having zero answers in that game. 563 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. 564 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: Tough. 565 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: Can I sell this? Can I sell this to our fans? 566 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: And you know that are that are calling for you know, 567 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: for change and give us a lot of money every 568 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: year and and are heavily invested in this franchise. It's 569 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: it's very hard to roll that guy out to a 570 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: presser right now. 571 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Buddy, let me just last thing outside of Harball, which 572 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: candidate are you high on? First time candidate, guy who's 573 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: been there before? Like, is there another candidate that you 574 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: you because we can think here that you think could 575 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: be a really good head coach? 576 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: Look for me, I think we've we've talked about it. 577 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: It's it's it's one of three and it would be 578 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: four if he would throw his name in, but he 579 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: won't because he doesn't want to coach anymore. But it'd 580 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: be Chris Peterson. I just I need to I need 581 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: a winner, and I need a leader. And so that's Belichick, Rabel, Harbaugh. 582 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: Just to me, that's what this this locker room needs, 583 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: that this franchise and needs that someone that walks in 584 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: the door and is viewed as a winning coach, as 585 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: someone that wins, not someone that coordinated a defense in 586 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: Baltimore or got the most out of Lamar Jackson in 587 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: Baltimore in his you know, first season there. It's it's 588 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: it's not that I just don't feel I feel like 589 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: we've had that. I mean, Brandon Staley had the number 590 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: one defense in the league when he showed up and 591 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: the press conference, he was dynamic in the press conference, 592 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: he said all the right things. He got off to 593 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: a great start. He was this forward thinking, aggressive, go 594 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: forward on fourth down. I believe in Justin Herbert and 595 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and that's why we're going for it, you 596 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: know kind of guy. And it was great. Those little 597 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: moments were great, but the big, the whole was not, 598 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: you know. And so that's why I think it's such 599 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: a critical moment for Justin Herbert at twenty six, at 600 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: the start of this extension, prime to his the next figure. 601 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: This coach is going to be with him through his 602 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: age thirty season. So to me, it is so important 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: to get it right. And I would much rather have 604 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: someone even though Mike McCarthy, even though Mike Vrabels offenses 605 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: at times had struggled. He had those two really good 606 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: seasons with Arthur Smith, you know, where they had a 607 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: thirteen and three record and were the number one seed, 608 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: and had Ryan Tannehill not thrown like sixty interceptions in 609 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: the game against the Bengals, they would have won and 610 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: perhaps gone to the Super Bowl that year that he 611 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: took him to an AFC championship. So I do think 612 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: there's a little concern about offense with Mike Rabel and 613 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: making sure he brings in the right guy. But at 614 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: the same time, just we know it. Heck, we've seen 615 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: it up close and personal. Saw it this year Tennessee 616 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: dragged him into the deep end and sucked him under 617 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 3: to get the winning overtime. We saw it last year 618 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: when they had no business being in that game, and 619 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: it took a miraculous effort from Justin Herbert at the 620 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: end of the game to get a game winning field 621 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: goal to knock him out. They are such tough teams 622 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 3: to deal with, so it would be I would I 623 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: would love it if it were one of those two. 624 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, The preparation in the in game strategy of Frabele 625 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: and Belichick is something that I think this team would 626 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: benefit from, no doubt. 627 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: So, yeah, Steve Wilts is interesting. You know, turned around Carolina, 628 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: you know, got a raw deal in Arizona. He's coordinating 629 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: a heck of a defense in San Francisco. So, like, 630 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: that's another one that's that's interesting to me. Someone that 631 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: had been a head coach before and his player. 632 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: I think I thought, we're here that game on Saturday 633 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: night or Sunday night, right. I think that that got 634 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: him a head coaching Joe. 635 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, he's going to get hired. 636 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if we want to hire the 637 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator from the Rams again, though, I think that's 638 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: the that's the trick there is. It's just tough to 639 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: to do the same it's it's not the same thing. 640 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: Ray Morris has been a head coach, He's been in 641 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: the league for a long time. He's coordinated defenses for 642 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: a long time. At the same time, like I said, perception, 643 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: Oh wait, didn't we just hire the defensive coordinator that 644 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: had Aaron Donald from the Rams, that had Jalen Ramsey 645 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: from the Rams? 646 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't we just do that? That's the problem. 647 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: There's enough openings that I think Raheem deserves a shot. 648 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: Is Oh, he's getting one. I have no doubt. I 649 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: have no doubt in my mind that he's getting one. 650 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: I think Ben Johnson's getting one, Raheem Morris is getting one, 651 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel's getting one, Jim Harbaugh's getting one, Bill Belichick's 652 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: getting one. That's five those to me, those five guys 653 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: either the two coordinators to me that are definitely getting 654 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: hired are Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald and I think 655 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: and Raheem Morris. And then so that's six. Rabel, Belichick, Harbaugh. 656 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: Those those six guys I believe will be hired. 657 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: And it's trending. Pierce, it seems like in Vegas. 658 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. You know, Mark Davis didn't listen 659 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: to his players when they said they wanted Rich Bassacia, 660 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: and he went out on his own and got Josh 661 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: McDaniels and it ended horribly. So and if you're Mark Davis, 662 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, all right, 663 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: we tried it my way, it failed, let's try it 664 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: your way. I'm giving McDaniels ten million bucks and John 665 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: Gruden twenty million bucks in coaching salaries. I'm paying out anyway. 666 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, might as well see if this works, save 667 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of money without trying to bring in 668 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: another fifteen million dollar a year head coach in Harbar 669 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: or Rabel or Belichick or something like that. 670 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: So and it worked. 671 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: You know, their defense went from what twenty six to fifth, 672 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: and they went five and four, and they beat the Chiefs, 673 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: and they beat the snot out of the Chargers, and 674 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: they beat the Broncos in the final game of the year. 675 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: So he clearly showed he can coach against Sean Payton 676 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: and Andy Reid and showed he did a number on 677 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: the Chargers. So I think that's probably enough. If I 678 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: were Mark Davis, I'd say, all right, DeVante wants him. 679 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: If Max Crosby is that adamant that he really wants 680 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: to play for this guy, I'm okay with that. Let's 681 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: give it go and see if we can make it work. 682 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll have to bring in a new quarterback 683 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: and a and a offensive coordinator that can put some 684 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: points on the board. Because save for the Thursday night 685 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: game against the Chargers, you know, they did they did 686 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: everything with kind of smoking not not smoking mirrors, but 687 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: just defense. Like the offenseense. Was it the arrowhead that 688 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: a cole didn't attempt to pass after the first quarter? Yeah? 689 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like if. 690 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: They get their offense right, you know, who's to say 691 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 2: that's not a not a good hire? 692 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: And you they lost three to the Vikings. 693 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Vikings. They put up a goose egg. Here's here's 694 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: too money is like, you know, he's not a proven 695 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: head coach, but you give him a runway for a 696 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: year or two to kind of show that he can 697 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: do it, then you know there's really no there's no 698 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: downside to it because your your locker room wants them. 699 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 700 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: Look, I get it if you're Mark Davis and you're like, wow, 701 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: I got an opportunity to hire Jim Harb bought Mike Rabel, 702 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: and I'm going to take a pass because this guy 703 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: had you know, an okay, nine games straight. That's I 704 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: get why that's scary. But I think because to me, 705 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: it's all the Bisaca thing is what is what leads 706 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 3: you to that point, Like, man, I really stepped in it. 707 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: I should have kept this guy. The players loved him, 708 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: they played hard for him. We made the playoffs. You know, 709 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: we were right there at the end, you know, at 710 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: the very end of that game against the Bengals, and 711 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: that's a team that ended up going to the AFC Championship. 712 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: I should have just listened to him, kept my coordinators, 713 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: hired Bassachia and see if we can have some continuity. 714 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: Instead brought a new guy in. He wrecked Derek Carr, 715 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: wrecked the franchise. Everybody hated him. Cost me fifty million bucks. 716 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: You know. 717 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, and it's what the people want. It's 718 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: what the Raiders fans want. They love them, you know, 719 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 3: so give them to them. That's I think there's something 720 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: to that. 721 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: Yep, we could be in a division with you know, 722 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 2: we'll see what the Chargers do. But you got Peyton, 723 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: you got read it. It's going to be very interesting, 724 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: you know, especially with all these all the head coach 725 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: movement I mentioned in the quarterback movement and what's going 726 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: to happen at the top of the draft, which is 727 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 2: another episode, another time for talking about the draft, because 728 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: we don't know it's going to happen here. But like 729 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: the Caleb Williams think Caleb Williams entering the NFL drafts 730 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: on the very final hour that you can do it 731 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: like that's that's intriguing. 732 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: Well remember though, CJ. 733 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: Stroud did that last year, so I know everybody's making 734 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 3: a big deal about it, But yeah, Stroud did that too. 735 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: I mean why, I don't know. Maybe he just like 736 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: the attention or something. He's The idea that somehow he 737 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 3: holds any cards is ridiculous. 738 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't. 739 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: He holds zero cards. You know that everyone thought he 740 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: was going to go back to USC for a twenty 741 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: million dollar nil payment. No, it was never going to happen. 742 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: Oh he's going to get a percentage of the team. 743 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: Never going to happen, though, no chance in the world. 744 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: You are not. And I think the only thing. 745 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: That could happen is people could just decide that they 746 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 3: don't like his attitude, that they don't like his makeup, 747 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 3: that they don't think he's a leader of men, and 748 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: that concerns them, and he drops down behind Drake May 749 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: and Jade and Daniels. You know, that could happen if 750 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 3: his interviews are that bad and if he has a 751 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: really bad attitude, you know, potentially that could be a situation. 752 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: I don't feel like he's that kind of guy. I 753 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 3: think he's just gotten some poor advice from from the 754 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: people that he's working with. By all accounts, he seems 755 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 3: like a really good teammate, someone who's great in the 756 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: locker room. It got sideways on him this year. He 757 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 3: had nothing left to prove. He had already won the Heisman, 758 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: he wanted to win a national championship. It went sideways 759 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: and there was nothing left for him to do but 760 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 3: get hurt. You know, he's already knew he's gonna be 761 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: the number one pick. So I get it at that 762 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: part of it, I get so. I think for him, 763 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 3: he's going to the Bears. They're not trading out of 764 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: that pick and keeping justin fields. They're not taking Drake 765 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 3: may or Jaden Daniels over him unless there is just 766 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: a huge red flag on character. And I don't foresee 767 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: that to be the problem. I don't foresee that happening. 768 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: They blew out their offensive that for a reason, right 769 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: Like I think it was Rich Eisen who said, like, 770 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: do you hire Cliff Kingsbury? Probably he probably do, right like, 771 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 2: or somebody that's associated with Caleb that that knows him. 772 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, could be, it could be a possible. 773 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: It makes sense. 774 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 3: Make it as comfortable as possible, you know, think about 775 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 3: what the think about what the Ravens did for Lamar Jackson, 776 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 3: how they completely built the team around him and and 777 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 3: and played to his strengths. You know, even though there 778 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: wasn't incredible success, you can't argue with how great Kyler 779 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: Murray looked his first couple of seasons with Cliff Kingsbury. 780 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: It was comfortable. It was what he was doing. He thrived, 781 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: So no doubt that. Yeah, there's something to that. You know, 782 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: look when Joe Burrow took off, when they were like, 783 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: you know what, let's just do what he did at LSU. 784 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 3: Let's go empty five out in the pattern, and and 785 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 3: Joe's fine, he's such a quick decision maker. He's gonna 786 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: find the open guy and that's what we're gonna do. 787 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: Let's just let's just do it, do it. Did do 788 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: what worked for them. You know what they're pre a 789 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 3: stop and that's you know, look at CJ. Stroud, you know, 790 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 3: the guy's incredible on those intermediate throws. All right, Well, 791 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: let's go sign Dalton Schultz and let's let's get a 792 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: ton of these intermediate throws set up for him and 793 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: just play to his strengths. And that's no doubt. I 794 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: think you hit it right on the head, Chris. That's 795 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: probably what they'll do. Hire one of those guys that 796 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: worked with Caleb, that did great things and helped them 797 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 3: win a Heisman and and ease that transition to the pros, 798 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: especially when you're playing on the freaking shores of Lake 799 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: Michigan and the wind is howling at negative twenty and 800 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 3: fifty miles an hour. 801 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: We got an education on Bear's quarterbacks last week from money, right, 802 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: So Caleb Williams comes in best quarterback in Bear's history 803 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: immediately right. 804 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's got a chance to replace old 805 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 3: Sid Luckman, you know Or how about this? 806 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: You know what? No, I got a pause there. 807 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: The seventy three nothing Sid Luckman. 808 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: He's got a chance to come in and be the 809 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: best quarterback since old number four Jim Harbaugh. 810 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: There we go, let's go, let's end there. You know 811 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 2: what I think I said My last point was twenty 812 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 2: minutes ago. We just love ball. We can't stop talking 813 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: about ball. 814 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: Right exactly, exactly love it. 815 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: And you know what, I can only hope that the 816 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: second this thing posts, we got to scrap it and 817 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: come back and talk about a head coach and general 818 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 3: manager that have just been hired. It'd be wonderful to 819 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 3: go into the weekend knowing that that's been settled. 820 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: It'd be great. It'd be great, and we'll be on 821 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: standby again. If anything happens between now and our next 822 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly, we'll come at you early with our immediate 823 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: reaction to head coach GM whatever could possibly happen. So money, 824 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Love this episode with you and 825 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: UH for money. I'm Chris. This has been Charged Weekly