Speaker 1: Socks on thirty fifth is next doors open on the left.
Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? This year?
Speaker 2: Is Stup Coughlin and Welcome to the Socks on thirty
Speaker 2: fifth podcast.
Speaker 1: We are back with.
Speaker 2: Another exciting episode, really exciting episode after the last two
Speaker 2: series covering Yos, Cargo, White Sox. I'm joined by Jordanzowski
Speaker 2: Nick Gower. We got Carson cass on the episode this week. Gentlemen,
Speaker 2: not even that I need to ask after these last
Speaker 2: two series, but how are we doing?
Speaker 3: I'll start I normally don't, but you know I'm I
Speaker 3: am the happiest man I'm playing Earth. I've gotten so
Speaker 3: much lend Casper and my drives to and from work
Speaker 3: on the Metro. This this team is special, and there
Speaker 3: is no better way to really adjust it than radio
Speaker 3: and then watching basically the full game back when I
Speaker 3: get home.
Speaker 1: It's unreal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we talked about it before we started
Speaker 4: going live here. We're like, Carson hasn't been on an
Speaker 4: episode in a while, and the team is so good
Speaker 4: right now, vibes are Let's hear from Carson a little
Speaker 4: bit first, because we're all so excited to talk about
Speaker 4: this team. We've been talking about this in the last
Speaker 4: few episodes, of course, But really I'm really enjoying getting,
Speaker 4: like you know, Carson, Michael Gretz and other guys on
Speaker 4: the podcast to hear we're all having such a good
Speaker 4: time watching this seam and it's nice to hear different
Speaker 4: perspectives and you know, share the excitement with others. So yeah,
Speaker 4: looking forward to this conversation obviously, especially after this weekend.
Speaker 4: And yeah, Sunday or today's game, I should say, was
Speaker 4: quite exciting. I love these big ginnings they keep having.
Speaker 4: We'd love more consistency, honestly, but I'm not going to
Speaker 4: complain about a six running or eight running whatever they
Speaker 4: had on Friday as well. So yeah, feeling good.
Speaker 5: I will add, vibes are good, like it's it's summertime.
Speaker 5: The sacks are good. You know what's the ballpark is fun?
Speaker 5: Like that is we continue to talk about. It's such
Speaker 5: an underrated element of it sometimes that you kind of
Speaker 5: forget about, is like going there and seeing people and
Speaker 5: running into folks. I know we'll talk about this a
Speaker 5: little bit later, but the stuff we're doing with SOX
Speaker 5: charities and just running into so many people and being
Speaker 5: around so many of those folks.
Speaker 1: It's cool.
Speaker 6: It's cool, and.
Speaker 5: It's cool on top of the team playing so well,
Speaker 5: which is what it is for me. It's like, yes,
Speaker 5: all of these things that are happening, but also the
Speaker 5: team is good and it's I keep saying, it's like
Speaker 5: they weren't supposed to be. So that's the element on
Speaker 5: top of it. So I'll continue the good vibes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think our discussion with Mike Vassel, he
Speaker 2: nailed it.
Speaker 1: Vibes are immaculate right now, you know.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know, a lot of us spent
Speaker 2: at Sachs on thirty fifth, spent the spent this Saturday
Speaker 2: game getting to watch the game together kind of shoot
Speaker 2: the uh, shoot the breeze. First time a lot of
Speaker 2: us see each other in person in a while, just
Speaker 2: by the nature of everyday life. But yeah, no, I mean,
Speaker 2: I love I love hearing. I love hearing from Michael
Speaker 2: Swuero and of hearing him talk about, you know, what
Speaker 2: he thinks about the current current team, because typically when
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 1: Him on here, we're talking about prospects. You know.
Speaker 2: I love seeing uh, the man himself, Joe and seeing
Speaker 2: him pop down to a baseball game on the south
Speaker 2: side of Chicago, you know, and just be able to
Speaker 2: kind of shoot the breeze with him as well. So overall,
Speaker 2: as Mike Vice h Mike, Mike Vassel said, if I
Speaker 2: could speak, it's been a long weekend, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Vibes are immaculate.
Speaker 2: Uh Uh, summertime in the Shy is just a little
Speaker 2: bit different when this baseball team on the South side
Speaker 2: of Chicago was good.
Speaker 1: So everything so far rolling in the right direction. Saturday.
Speaker 2: Saturday had the potential to be a real bummer, but
Speaker 2: someday proved that we're not going to let that keep
Speaker 2: us down. But so obviously with that, with the last
Speaker 2: week and with the upcoming week. Uh, there is quite
Speaker 2: a bit cover in this episode before we get started.
Speaker 2: To be sure, it's describe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify,
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Speaker 2: I was saying, or to be with Mike Vassel is
Speaker 2: up there, short and sweet, but you guys will really
Speaker 2: enjoy it. We also have some other episodes that are
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Speaker 2: and we did on Saturday. The White Socks were nice
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Speaker 2: as I was saying at the top of the show
Speaker 2: and Carson, I'm gonna let you kick us off right away,
Speaker 2: White Sox ticket four or five.
Speaker 1: In two of the best teams in all of baseball.
Speaker 2: We didn't get the opportunity to potentially sweep the Atlanta Braves,
Speaker 2: but getting two wins in that series was a bonus,
Speaker 2: a bigger bonus, and a lot of us ought we
Speaker 2: were going to get in the first place, even if
Speaker 2: we was going to be, you know, one of three,
Speaker 2: two of three obviously, just not getting swept ourselves, and
Speaker 2: then the Dodger series after Friday felt like a sleep
Speaker 2: was very much on the table. Yammbodo obviously kind of
Speaker 2: sucked the air out of our sales a little bit,
Speaker 2: But the guy showed up to play at the right time.
Speaker 2: Lehn Casper did a really good job on the broadcast.
Speaker 2: Because I was listening to the game on the drive
Speaker 2: home today and Len was just he couldn't stop driving
Speaker 2: the point home that the Socks rally started because of
Speaker 2: a failed Sam Antonachi challenge and Sam like you could
Speaker 2: just see it written Oliver his face when he lost
Speaker 2: that challenge. But what are your biggest takeaways from this
Speaker 2: weekend with what this white sex team looks like here
Speaker 2: moving forward?
Speaker 3: Somebody who takes a lot of pride in having gone
Speaker 3: to way too many games in twenty twenty four. There
Speaker 3: isn't the feeling that you got and we'll go back
Speaker 3: to the first Braves game that we've gotten to you
Speaker 3: guys have gotten a chance to speak on that fully.
Speaker 3: Yet it is the feeling that this team is never
Speaker 3: out of a game that is so unique and new,
Speaker 3: and you can see it in the ballpark. There's just
Speaker 3: such an energy that this team is able to go
Speaker 3: into any game, go down five to nothing, go down
Speaker 3: six and nothing, you genuinely will keep the CV on.
Speaker 3: You have a real feeling that this TV needs to
Speaker 3: stay on because we might get three on and then
Speaker 3: and tend he might find that fast qual that he's
Speaker 3: looking for on the inside portion of the plate and
Speaker 3: drive one home. And it has just been so different,
Speaker 3: I think, And I was making a few jokes to
Speaker 3: my friends here who are Knicks fans that like, I
Speaker 3: am happier than they are that the White Sox are
Speaker 3: winning these series, because it's just they get it. They'd
Speaker 3: understand the entire pain that we've been going through. They've
Speaker 3: been as bad as we had and such a big market,
Speaker 3: and I mean, they don't play little Brother, They've got
Speaker 3: the nets. But it is so excruciating to be the
Speaker 3: second place team in the city and finally feeling like
Speaker 3: a first place team, even though it is really close,
Speaker 3: and I believe we actually are only a game ahead
Speaker 3: of them in the Cubs. But you just this team
Speaker 3: hasn't been in first place since I was fourteen. I
Speaker 3: didn't know how to drive a car at that point.
Speaker 4: Now I'm living by myself.
Speaker 3: So it's just it's such a polarizing difference in my
Speaker 3: heart to see a squad now that really plays this
Speaker 3: game on a level that they're always willing to fight,
Speaker 3: they are always willing to get back into games, and
Speaker 3: the pitching doesn't half to be perfect.
Speaker 5: I know we have this discussion the first time you
Speaker 5: were on here, which is the other time, but when
Speaker 5: you throw out like haven't been in first place since
Speaker 5: like fourteen years old, I'm like, oh my god, it's like,
Speaker 5: how young are you again? But anyway, you know, one
Speaker 5: thing I thought was really interesting, and you know, the
Speaker 5: three of us, Duke, Nick and I, we were sitting
Speaker 5: next to each other at the ballpark. I was kind
Speaker 5: of thrown out there and Nick, you and I were
Speaker 5: kind of like, hey, after the fifth inning of a
Speaker 5: perfect game, I don't care which side it's on, Like,
Speaker 5: I want to see a perfect game at that point, right.
Speaker 5: I will get plenty of crap for that, but I
Speaker 5: genuinely believe I'm like, hey, that's history at a certain point,
Speaker 5: and I'd love to see it no matter who it is.
Speaker 5: But then you see what I think it was. Chase
Speaker 5: my draft said after a Saturday's game or mcgalvary's one
Speaker 5: of them, like, hey, even just scoring one run, getting
Speaker 5: one hit, like felt like a win, Like we needed
Speaker 5: that as a team. And then to come out and
Speaker 5: see what they did on Sunday it kind of changes
Speaker 5: your viewpoint on that. Maybe as a fan it doesn't
Speaker 5: really change your viewpoint, but it's more so it adds
Speaker 5: a layer to the idea of like, hey, like you
Speaker 5: play one hundred and sixty two games in a year,
Speaker 5: Like how much does one of these impact you versus
Speaker 5: what the fan base would what an average family like
Speaker 5: to see history. But then you see that, and then
Speaker 5: the way they responded on Sunday, I think was the
Speaker 5: best part of it.
Speaker 6: That was my biggest takeaway.
Speaker 5: For them to sit there and be like, you know,
Speaker 5: it really mattered to us that we lost seven to
Speaker 5: one and got a hit like that felt like a
Speaker 5: win in its own right, and then to come out
Speaker 5: and play like that, like you backed up what you
Speaker 5: said with results, And.
Speaker 6: That was my biggest takeaway from the weekend.
Speaker 5: Just Okay, you knew they could hang, you knew they
Speaker 5: were gonna be around, but you got your teeth kicked in,
Speaker 5: but you felt like there was a win in there,
Speaker 5: and you actually went out and acted like it.
Speaker 6: That's a huge thing to me.
Speaker 1: Well, and if you remember Las, what was what was
Speaker 1: the thing that I brought up about Chase Chase my
Speaker 1: drafts at second base?
Speaker 5: It looked like it was killing him to be just
Speaker 5: getting no hit. Perfect gamed at that point you were
Speaker 5: absolutely correct on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's a great point. I mean you can
Speaker 4: kind of see it on their faces, Like my draft
Speaker 4: of Vargus Anton naci All these guys in the White Sox,
Speaker 4: for are like the grindy, like gamers, And I'm saying
Speaker 4: that in a loving way. I love all those guys,
Speaker 4: but you can see how much they want to win.
Speaker 4: And I've thought about saying this when he last recorded
Speaker 4: on I think it was Thursday, where it was with
Speaker 4: Brett instead of Duke, but I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 4: Be good Brett's of Packers man. But it's very like
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five Chicago bearffs coded and that the game's
Speaker 4: not over until there were zeros on the clock. I
Speaker 4: mean for football, obviously for baseball, to the night thing
Speaker 4: was over, you never feel that the team's truly out
Speaker 4: of it. You kind of get the sense that everyone
Speaker 4: loves playing four and with each other and rallying around
Speaker 4: each other, like there's real camaraderie. And I know everyone
Speaker 4: says that about a team that's good, but I hate
Speaker 4: to throw the seam under the bus because I didn't
Speaker 4: like them. But the twenty twenty so, yeah, a great team,
Speaker 4: but never really got the sense that they were all
Speaker 4: that close, like with very clicky Uh. There's obviously a
Speaker 4: lot of manager controversy throughout the year, but this team
Speaker 4: is just completely different in that regard, and I really
Speaker 4: think that matters. I Mean, we all, maybe not all
Speaker 4: of us, sorry Carson, but we all we all know
Speaker 4: in O five how important that was. So I'm not
Speaker 4: saying this is five part two, but it's definitely there's
Speaker 4: some similarities, that's all I'll say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the feeling is different than if you're
Speaker 2: comparing it to the twenty twenty one team. And honestly,
Speaker 2: like I know it doesn't matter to you know, what's
Speaker 2: happening on the field, but I think our fan base
Speaker 2: kind of learned from twenty twenty one because so many
Speaker 2: of us didn't take the time to actually enjoy that
Speaker 2: run because we were typically arguing, like arguing and nitpicking
Speaker 2: about small things like throughout that because like think back
Speaker 2: to that, think back while, like when we were fans
Speaker 2: in that era. We could win, we could we can
Speaker 2: go win a series of Minnesota, and we would spend
Speaker 2: like the next day and a half on Twitter just
Speaker 2: beating each other over the head over some small, like
Speaker 2: small deal. It didn't matter that we had won the series.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter that you know, it looks like the
Speaker 2: vibes on the team are you know, right, it's I'm
Speaker 2: mad because this guy was in the lineup.
Speaker 1: I'm mad that this guy got used in the bullpen.
Speaker 2: Like it was just a constant going at each other,
Speaker 2: and I think like as a fan base, we've just
Speaker 2: kind of learned from that, and we've just kind of
Speaker 2: learned with how badly we've gotten our heads beat in
Speaker 2: over the last couple couple of seasons that like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I I think I think winning baseball's fund
Speaker 2: no matter how you do it, you know, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, as long as the results there,
Speaker 2: I'm happy because nobody expected this team to win, so
Speaker 2: I mean obvious, obviously expectations going into twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: and then coming into this season were vastly different considering
Speaker 2: where we were as a team. But I think I
Speaker 2: don't see that negativity as much within the fan base
Speaker 2: with each other, you know, I see civil conversation about
Speaker 2: you know, small different things, and I like that. I
Speaker 2: like being able to, you know, build on ideas instead
Speaker 2: of just shooting them down. So it's just on a
Speaker 2: fan level, I think that's something we've done an incredible
Speaker 2: job of this this entire run, and I think the
Speaker 2: players respond to that. I think the players all know
Speaker 2: where we're on the same page as far as we're
Speaker 2: enjoying the ride, we want to watch this team win.
Speaker 2: And they're an incredible easy team to root for. And
Speaker 2: I think they would be even if we were if
Speaker 2: we had an under five hundred record. So the fact
Speaker 2: that we're you know, actually winning, we're actually battling for
Speaker 2: first place in the division, I think it's incredibly easy
Speaker 2: to root for this team.
Speaker 1: Up and down, up and down the lineup.
Speaker 2: So I would say over this entire five game stretch,
Speaker 2: and you know, let's not like, let's not think that
Speaker 2: we're not out of the woods yet because we got
Speaker 2: the Yankees coming up, and that's just not gonna be.
Speaker 2: That's not going to just be a super easy series.
Speaker 2: We walk into that lack of days ago, we'll get
Speaker 2: punched in the mouth really fast. But this shows this
Speaker 2: is a team that when there's some there's some you know,
Speaker 2: gas in the air and stuff on the line, that
Speaker 2: these guys are ready to go. And you know it's
Speaker 2: they talked to They talked to some coaches after the game.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly who said it, but they were asked.
Speaker 2: About Munataka Murkami's impact to the lineup and how the
Speaker 2: offense has responded since. And the big thing that he
Speaker 2: brought up was, like, Munataka Murkami is a huge part
Speaker 2: of this lineup. All the guys like we like, we
Speaker 2: all miss him, we all want to return the lineup,
Speaker 2: Like it's impossible to deny his what he brings to it.
Speaker 1: But he said when he got injured, he could field
Speaker 1: in the air in the in.
Speaker 2: The clubhouse for about ten minutes and then after that
Speaker 2: it was next man up.
Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 2: And Murkami was one of the biggest advocates of that
Speaker 2: as well, like listen, I'm not here, but keep moving forward.
Speaker 2: And I think that speaks volume to what this team is.
Speaker 2: No matter who's in the lineup on the day day basis,
Speaker 2: they're expected by their teammates to give it, give it.
Speaker 2: They're all because say, you know, Coles Montgomery or Miguel
Speaker 2: Vargas has moved miss time, everyone else in the lineup
Speaker 2: is gonna expect whoever replace them to give the exact
Speaker 2: same amount of effort every single.
Speaker 5: Game, right, And I'm the one thing I'll say on
Speaker 5: one thing you had mentioned about like the fan response
Speaker 5: and things like that about the back and forth.
Speaker 6: I think that still exists though, right Like I think
Speaker 6: it has to.
Speaker 5: Like we, I know, we keep saying good vibes only
Speaker 5: and things like that about the team, but I think
Speaker 5: it is important for us to be like, okay, for
Speaker 5: example today, like this this wave that we're kind of
Speaker 5: riding with, Sir Anthony Demingez like that, that's something Venerable
Speaker 5: is gonna have to keep in check. For example, what
Speaker 5: does this team look like? What kind of things do
Speaker 5: they do when Teal is back or Schultz is back?
Speaker 5: Like I was kind of intrigued by this whole idea
Speaker 5: of bringing new come in. I know is most because
Speaker 5: of lefties, but new come for a couple of innings
Speaker 5: and only fed for maybe three, Like I was kind
Speaker 5: of intrigued by that as well. Like Fetti's stuff looked
Speaker 5: really good in a shorter span, really good as a
Speaker 5: bit of a phrase there, but it looked better with
Speaker 5: a little bit short of a span of a start.
Speaker 5: So maybe that works better. So there's definitely those things
Speaker 5: that can go back and forth as well. But I
Speaker 5: do I think it was close Montgomery who said it
Speaker 5: after this game, like at a certain point you got
Speaker 5: to step being like, oh, this is the surprise team,
Speaker 5: this is a surprise team, Like no, we're here, We're
Speaker 5: staying we're legit and think of us that way. And
Speaker 5: I think that's pretty cool at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Great quote as a great quote, but uh yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we're kind of all on
Speaker 2: the same page as far as feeling really good about
Speaker 2: going into this upcoming stretch of games and then obviously
Speaker 2: on the horizon. And this is something that we discussed
Speaker 2: quite a bit on our previous episode and a lot
Speaker 2: on our episode with Sean Anderson when we were talking
Speaker 2: about the Cleveland series. Cleveland just lost Jose Ramirez for
Speaker 2: like potential six to eight weeks, and I believe I'm
Speaker 2: I'm blanking on the name of the guy who does
Speaker 2: the pregame of post Game on ESPN one thousand and
Speaker 2: I felt bad because somebody kind of took a Connor
Speaker 2: McKnight shot on in one of the colors that they took,
Speaker 2: which was I thought, really out of pocket. But he
Speaker 2: had said that the White Sox are going to play
Speaker 2: Cleveland roughly ten games in those six eight weeks, So
Speaker 2: that's that's a huge potential.
Speaker 1: To grab an advantage there.
Speaker 2: You never want to wish like Indrey and your opponent
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but this feels like an opportunity
Speaker 2: for the White Sox that if you really want to
Speaker 2: take a good leap in this division and you want
Speaker 2: to start making that serious run here as we start
Speaker 2: to get to July, this is that's going to be
Speaker 2: the team that you're really gonna have to handle business against.
Speaker 2: And you're kind of being kind of being handled handed
Speaker 2: an advantage right from the jump, because in theory, when
Speaker 2: Takoburcami is going to be in our lineup sooner rather
Speaker 2: than later as he starts to get healthier, and and
Speaker 2: we're going to start having some of our other horses
Speaker 2: come back, like Kyle Teal and No Schultz, who who
Speaker 2: are going to be going on their Triple A assignments
Speaker 2: here fairly soon. So much how much does the Guardians
Speaker 2: lineup concern you without their best player of the last decade?
Speaker 3: Cards In very little, I've been one of the two
Speaker 3: White Sox fans has enjoyed watching Jose Ramirez and the
Speaker 3: fact that I just as kind of grown up with
Speaker 3: a team that hasn't won a.
Speaker 6: Lot so I just was accepting that well too.
Speaker 5: When he hit that home run off of Jose Ruiz right, like,
Speaker 5: you don't even remember that he.
Speaker 4: Is a very old thirty three.
Speaker 3: That is something I was I saw said very early
Speaker 3: in the season, is that he is an old thirty
Speaker 3: three and de Gram specifically as a young young thirty nine,
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. Where they're just guys that have
Speaker 3: been around a while and there's guys that you.
Speaker 4: Haven't seen play a lot.
Speaker 3: But it worries me very little unless Manzardo finally randomly
Speaker 3: figures it out. The lineup is lacking a serious amount
Speaker 3: of power and extra base hit ability, and it's he's
Speaker 3: kind of their primary spark in the middle of a lineup.
Speaker 3: You have to kind of play against him, and it
Speaker 3: allows opportunities for guys like Rokio who are getting on
Speaker 3: more because you're pitching around Rokyo because you don't want
Speaker 3: to have a guy on. You need to get this
Speaker 3: guy out. And Roko has been able to get taken
Speaker 3: advantage of pitchers who went out pitching more to him.
Speaker 3: But is that going to stay around without a huge
Speaker 3: power threat behind him, a huge hitting threat behind him.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think pitchers are going to be a lot more
Speaker 3: easy to attack, and the lineup just doesn't concern me
Speaker 3: because it's so easy to beat without.
Speaker 4: The big damage threat of Vermirez in it.
Speaker 3: It's something that also I think you can pitch against
Speaker 3: really well, like the reverse bullpen. The White Sox to
Speaker 3: today is something I've sound like a total work when
Speaker 3: I say this, but then out of the park, I
Speaker 3: do it all the time where it's how far can
Speaker 3: I get into a game without my starter? And when
Speaker 3: do you need to put your starter in? Because it's
Speaker 3: in the sixth inning you can get three guys go twice.
Speaker 3: Newcom is a starter, naturally wanted to be a starter.
Speaker 3: It doesn't concern me in terms of the White Sox
Speaker 3: versut the Guardians, and there are a lot of other
Speaker 3: teams who are smart enough to make that comparison and
Speaker 3: beat that lineup with the pitching may have.
Speaker 6: I think and nail that they're perfectly.
Speaker 5: It's not so much for me about oh Jose Ramirez
Speaker 5: is out there, for he just kills the socks and
Speaker 5: therefore like it's all. It's more so how that impacts
Speaker 5: the rest of the lineup, Like, yes, you have to
Speaker 5: be careful about how you pitch to certain guys. Is
Speaker 5: the last thing you want is Jose Ramirez to come
Speaker 5: up with the guys on base, and then you get
Speaker 5: too cute and all of a sudden you find guys
Speaker 5: on base at Jose Ramirez is up it. It allows
Speaker 5: you to reframe the focus back towards the hitters in
Speaker 5: that line of versus planning game planning around somebody. That
Speaker 5: being said, I don't know how it's going to work out.
Speaker 5: There's some Cleveland devil magic that will always exist, and
Speaker 5: I think when we need to.
Speaker 6: Understand the reality of that. The pitching staff has been solid.
Speaker 5: There might be some regression based on the stats behind it,
Speaker 5: but at the same time, it's still Cleveland like that.
Speaker 5: There's they're going to be competitive. But I think it's
Speaker 5: for me I agree completely Carson. It's less about oh,
Speaker 5: he's out of the lineup there for cool, no more
Speaker 5: home runs, just like no it everybody else that's left
Speaker 5: and how you decide to approach that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's well put by both of you.
Speaker 4: The games against Cleveland might have a lot of kind
Speaker 4: of three to two final scores like they all have
Speaker 4: over the years, and when it comes to Ramiro is
Speaker 4: the only thing I'll add is that that handmaid bone injury.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the timeline for recovery is no. Four
Speaker 4: to six, six eight weeks depending on severity. But if
Speaker 4: you look at the history of guys who have that injury,
Speaker 4: it completely screws them over from a power standpoint for
Speaker 4: the full season. So he might come back, you know,
Speaker 4: in four weeks or something like that, but he's not
Speaker 4: going to be nearly as much of a home run
Speaker 4: header he already wasn't kind of this year, that was
Speaker 4: already kind of trending down, but even more so, I
Speaker 4: think it'll take him until next year to really get
Speaker 4: his full power back. So I'm not saying this is,
Speaker 4: you know, the end of the world for him or anything,
Speaker 4: but I've always felt like the factory handmade injury in
Speaker 4: particular is not taking as seriously because people just see
Speaker 4: the timeline and it's I'm like, okay, great, But it
Speaker 4: actually has some long term effects too that you know, inadvertently,
Speaker 4: I guess help the White Sox in this case. So
Speaker 4: just something to keep in mind. Of course.
Speaker 5: The only thing I want to keep in mind with
Speaker 5: all of this, too, is we're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 5: sweeten Jose Ramirez, which I mean, we're not saying that
Speaker 5: because it's like you're not praying for an injury, but.
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He's only got like a like but you get what
Speaker 6: I'm getting at though.
Speaker 5: More so I what I want to keep in mind though,
Speaker 5: is like he's only at like a one to eleven
Speaker 5: ops plus this year, Like it hasn't is I think
Speaker 5: is ops is seven fifty. It hasn't been your typical
Speaker 5: Jose Ramirez just lighting the world on fire. The reason
Speaker 5: I bring that up is that means the Guardians are
Speaker 5: finding ways to win ball games and be competitive without
Speaker 5: him as well. So it's like, yes, the weird thing,
Speaker 5: the elephant in the room, I guess is what Carstian
Speaker 5: and Ibel said was like, how do you approach the
Speaker 5: lineup differently? And that's maybe what makes it different. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, they have found ways to be
Speaker 5: productive with Jose Ramirez not always doing Jose Ramirez things.
Speaker 5: So again it's I expect, like you said, Nick, like
Speaker 5: a bunch of low scoring, just grinded out games, and
Speaker 5: I think the White Sex are well positioned to win
Speaker 5: those from how they take at bats and things. My
Speaker 5: concern is now bullpen deployment, and we talked like Newcom,
Speaker 5: we talked about Tomingas a little bit.
Speaker 6: There's all of that that in those games.
Speaker 5: And this even comes back to what we've talked about
Speaker 5: when Pennable in those games, one decision by a manager
Speaker 5: might affect a lot, and we're gonna have to be
Speaker 5: object about how we as fans analyze it. But venable'
Speaker 5: is gonna have to be smart about how, hey, everything
Speaker 5: means a little bit more given where the Guardians are at,
Speaker 5: even where this team is at, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: Well, and the big thing with this line with the
Speaker 2: Cleveland's lineup that we're going to have to pay attention
Speaker 2: to is making sure we have available, like good, high leverage,
Speaker 2: available left arms out of the bullpen every single game
Speaker 2: because they are very left heavy, left hitting heavy lineup.
Speaker 2: And I do like the point that you guys brought up,
Speaker 2: and it was something I was going to bring up
Speaker 2: about Jose Ermir is not really being they're horse in
Speaker 2: the lineup this year, but too like the two biggest
Speaker 2: keys with them and facing that lineup is a like
Speaker 2: the Brian Hudson, Sean Newcomb getting Noah Schultz back in
Speaker 2: a tily manner would be actually very beneficial just to
Speaker 2: be able to face them like a good matchup on
Speaker 2: a given day, because being able to have as many
Speaker 2: lefty arms on the on the mound as possible during
Speaker 2: those games is going to benefit us greatly.
Speaker 1: That's why we're also going to need the most out
Speaker 1: of our right handed arms, so.
Speaker 2: It is always available to us that we can have
Speaker 2: a good left hand, left handed arm in out of
Speaker 2: the pen ready to go if needed, so they.
Speaker 5: Have no shortage of those though to be fair like
Speaker 5: we're they'll roll out lefties if they need to.
Speaker 6: That's for sure.
Speaker 2: Well no, and that's but I I that is that
Speaker 2: is a huge key. The other part of it really
Speaker 2: is just making sure we're throwing strikes because they're not
Speaker 2: like a huge walk team right now, Like they don't
Speaker 2: get on base the super high clip most of the time.
Speaker 2: If they're getting on basis because they're they're actually getting
Speaker 2: wood to bat.
Speaker 1: And we just need to make.
Speaker 2: Sure we're pepper and the strike zone being able to
Speaker 2: work accounts correctly as far as pitch election and sequencing,
Speaker 2: and I think I think we have a chance.
Speaker 1: To really really get some good even with Jose in
Speaker 1: the lineup.
Speaker 2: I feel really good about where we were against matching
Speaker 2: up with Cleveland before we even got that news. So yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm on board with kind of how
Speaker 2: you guys are thinking about this, But before we get
Speaker 2: too ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was just thinking to him, like
Speaker 5: they still got three games in New York coming. I'm like,
Speaker 5: we're talking about Cleveland and this and don't work. Don't
Speaker 5: get me wrong, like it's the news of it. I
Speaker 5: completely agree, before we get too far ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we do.
Speaker 2: We've got we've got the legitimate Bronx bombers coming up,
Speaker 2: and you get not something you could ignore. And what
Speaker 2: we're looking at right now is Davis Martin versus Garret Cole,
Speaker 2: Anthony K versus Carlos Roddan, which is he's actually a
Speaker 2: beautiful lefty versus lefty and Sean Burke versus blank.
Speaker 1: I don't know your first name, Weathers.
Speaker 6: Which we who has come out of nowhere and been
Speaker 6: pretty solid.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's probably why I didn't know his name
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. So how are we
Speaker 1: feeling about that?
Speaker 2: Because you know, Garrett Cole isn't someone who really instills
Speaker 2: too much fear of me, but he's still Garrett Cole.
Speaker 2: Carlos Roddan having just immaculate start against the White Sox
Speaker 2: would just be the most fitting thing in the world.
Speaker 2: And he just have he knows how to kind of
Speaker 2: turn the juice on when he wants to, and Weathers
Speaker 2: is a non factor to me because I barely know exists. So, uh, Carson,
Speaker 2: how are we feeling about this series going into New York?
Speaker 1: Weather?
Speaker 3: It's not really a nun's a nons factor. I think
Speaker 3: is unfortunately kind of the the the thing you were
Speaker 3: going up against a very good pitching staff, one that
Speaker 3: I would say is the best right now in baseball
Speaker 3: as a complete hole, and we're getting very luckily that
Speaker 3: it's not Switzler, and we are getting a pretty interesting one.
Speaker 3: I think in Cole. Uh, he's going back. Obviously it
Speaker 3: only make a few starts since the injury.
Speaker 6: We'll see.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of those things where
Speaker 3: the White Sox, you're just gonna it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: day where he's going to go seven scoreless and hitless,
Speaker 3: or he's going to go and throw the third in
Speaker 3: against the White Sox and Colson Montgomery will just destroy
Speaker 3: something into the short porch and suddenly the gates open
Speaker 3: from there. This White Sox team really bounces off of
Speaker 3: each other, and it's always going to come down to
Speaker 3: how good they are that day. But I don't think
Speaker 3: this is an all a lineup that you can see
Speaker 3: anything too worrisome. I think that we genuinely have a
Speaker 3: good enough lineup to it off of any pitcher. It's
Speaker 3: just going to come down to is this staff prepared
Speaker 3: In terms of the managerial staff for the Yankees. We're
Speaker 3: obviously going to avoid Grisham, We're obviously going to avoid Judge,
Speaker 3: but the pitching side is going to be the way
Speaker 3: more important from that important matchup no matter what's happening here.
Speaker 3: And are they ready to tell the hitters, hey, you can't.
Speaker 3: You need to avoid this slide or you need to
Speaker 3: avoid this. That's gonna be the entire key. They've done
Speaker 3: a good job so far this season. They don't see
Speaker 3: any reason why they can't. But it's gonna be the hardest.
Speaker 3: I think three game stretch we'll see even well Atlanta,
Speaker 3: we didn't get the third starter there but Brez would
Speaker 3: have been better than Weathers.
Speaker 1: I would guess here.
Speaker 5: The thing too at this is okay, they took care
Speaker 5: of these first six or five games, these first five
Speaker 5: games against really tough teams. They did it at home.
Speaker 5: Go into New York and I don't I don't love
Speaker 5: Yankee Stadium. It's a different story. But still going on
Speaker 5: the road in a big matchup something like that, that's
Speaker 5: a different vibe for still a very admittedly young team.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: That's something I'm thinking about, is how much chase do
Speaker 5: we see more than usual? How much you guys just
Speaker 5: get like am jittery is the wrong word, but like
Speaker 5: you can see the emotions of it. Like now you're
Speaker 5: two first place teams going at each other in New York.
Speaker 5: This is what you're playing for. The other part of
Speaker 5: that is too too lefties in Rode Down and Weathers.
Speaker 5: How does that impact what liners avniable runs out there?
Speaker 5: You're really not running with your top guys necessarily, and
Speaker 5: even if you are, you're putting them at a disadvantage.
Speaker 5: I know Montgomery, Colson Montgomery hit a homer against Are
Speaker 5: against the lefty today, but that's still a difficult thing
Speaker 5: to kind of manage. So those are my two big things.
Speaker 5: Is number one, how do they play the lefty matchups?
Speaker 5: Now two of them instead of just one in the series.
Speaker 5: But also on top of that, how do you handle
Speaker 5: going on the road.
Speaker 6: For these tough games? So we talked about this big stretch.
Speaker 5: Two thirds of them being at home is awesome, but
Speaker 5: that's not always the case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all fair points. I mean, I don't love any
Speaker 4: of the pishing matchups, even though Davis Martin one just
Speaker 4: because the scared Cole on the other end. But I
Speaker 4: haven't really loved any the pishing matchups the last week
Speaker 4: or two. Anyway, I might keep winning them, so you
Speaker 4: know who am I to judge? Brett makes a decent comment.
Speaker 4: Brett of soot on thirty fifth makes a decent comment
Speaker 4: here saying the Weather's nine strikeouts or give up four
Speaker 4: home runs. I mean, yeah, that's kind of what I understand.
Speaker 4: That's kind of this. He's very hot and cold, but
Speaker 4: when he's on, he's really tough. So that's a game
Speaker 4: where you could maybe see like a Pereira and or
Speaker 4: Gritch a home run. But yeah, basically, just don't get
Speaker 4: swept as Michael. That was Michael for the last two
Speaker 4: series as well, and they did a lot more than
Speaker 4: just not get swept. So hoping for a similar result here.
Speaker 5: Tarsan through a good comment in our chat off to
Speaker 5: the side where we keep this thing going fourteen and
Speaker 5: twenty is their record away that is going to need
Speaker 5: to change.
Speaker 6: If you're serious.
Speaker 5: About doing something this year and making an impact, that's
Speaker 5: got to get closer to five hundred, right Like you're
Speaker 5: going to play better ball at home, you've got to
Speaker 5: be able to do something better than that on the road.
Speaker 5: So if they can take one of three look good
Speaker 5: while losing the other two, I'd still consider that a win.
Speaker 5: If you just go in get swept or you look
Speaker 5: terrible two out of three games, maybe different conversations start
Speaker 5: to be had because you're getting Davis Martin to lead
Speaker 5: it off.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, the one thing you have to
Speaker 2: keep in mind with the Yankees lineup is the exact
Speaker 2: same thing you've had to keep in mind probably for
Speaker 2: the last ten years now going on. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of power here. We're not going to get there, you know.
Speaker 2: Best horses as far as like an Aaron Judge and uh,
Speaker 2: I believe Stanton's on I l as well.
Speaker 1: Trent Grisham.
Speaker 2: He's the name that isn't spoken to my household, so
Speaker 2: he doesn't even affector in anything I have to say
Speaker 2: about the Yankees. But you know a guy like Cody Bellinger, Uh,
Speaker 2: that's a guy who can just get really hot during
Speaker 2: a series, or really hot during the string of games
Speaker 2: and running into that's a tough one. Jess Chisholm o
Speaker 2: obviously is a guy who has really natural power. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna need a lot from our We're asking for
Speaker 2: a lot from our starting lineup or from our starting rotation,
Speaker 2: and Davis Martin being the first guy to start in
Speaker 2: the series is going to really help him as far
Speaker 2: as like setting the tone. But also I do because
Speaker 2: I did decide to pull up the twenty twenty six
Speaker 2: New York Yankees and look to Ryan Weathers a little bit.
Speaker 1: I stand on him being irrelevant, non factor.
Speaker 2: This guy freaking sucks fifteen home runs, twenty one walks,
Speaker 2: seventy four innings. This guy's garbage. We are are off.
Speaker 2: Our lineup is actually clip this. You can clip this,
Speaker 2: you can clip this. I don't care. I'm fully convinced
Speaker 2: that he is dogwater.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to destroy him. I'm way more
Speaker 1: worried about Carlos Roodin and Garrick Cole.
Speaker 5: You know what I did say, it was a good
Speaker 5: Vibes podcast. I do continue to say that, so I
Speaker 5: like the good vibes.
Speaker 1: Duke.
Speaker 6: We'll see.
Speaker 5: I think it'll be interesting, but I guess to continue
Speaker 5: the good vibes. We kind of close out here. I
Speaker 5: do want to make sure we talk through this a
Speaker 5: little bit. Some of the Sox Charity's Day work that
Speaker 5: we got to kick off on Saturday. I want to
Speaker 5: make sure kind of everybody understands what's going to be
Speaker 5: happening for that. So every year for Sox Cherries and
Speaker 5: the Socks Serve Week, they've been doing some sort of
Speaker 5: competition of some sort of these past couple of years.
Speaker 5: You'll remember the Benetti versus Stone one and then they
Speaker 5: did Chuck a Nazi as a T shirt a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago. They're bringing that back in the form
Speaker 5: of socks podcasts going against each other. So it'll be
Speaker 5: us from the one to eight and Lockdown Socks as
Speaker 5: the three competitors. Tuesday, June twenty third is when this happens.
Speaker 5: It's only that day you can buy them, I believe
Speaker 5: in the ballpark, but definitely online, and whichever team among
Speaker 5: us sells the most T shirt gets a five thousand
Speaker 5: dollars donation to the charity of the page's choice. On
Speaker 5: top of everything that is sold, these T shirts are
Speaker 5: twenty five dollars. Everything that is sold goes to support
Speaker 5: the work the White Sox Charities is doing. So it's
Speaker 5: a great cause. We're gonna have some fun with it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna be competitive. I talked with the guys from
Speaker 5: the one to eight after the game yesterday. They're like,
Speaker 5: I know, we're saying friendly competition, but we're gonna be
Speaker 5: fun about this, right, And like, yes, we're absolutely gonna
Speaker 5: have a ton of fun with this. But I wanted
Speaker 5: to make sure it was clear everybody what kind of
Speaker 5: the rules are. If you haven't seen the T shirt,
Speaker 5: go to our Twitter, Instagram, like it's everywhere at this point.
Speaker 5: They actually did an awesome job designing all three of them.
Speaker 5: But I'm biased towards ours obviously, so they did a
Speaker 5: great job designing and I know we are all very
Speaker 5: thankful to the White Sox for deciding to do this,
Speaker 5: because it was really really cool. It was a cool
Speaker 5: email to get from them, like, hey, we got an idea,
Speaker 5: you want to hear it, and it all supports a
Speaker 5: great cause, So please hopefully buy our shirt when the
Speaker 5: time comes on the twenty third during the Guardians game.
Speaker 5: But even if you don't, make sure you're buying a shirt,
Speaker 5: it's going to a good cause, going to support great things.
Speaker 5: So that and over the next couple of days will
Speaker 5: have a couple of podcasts coming out that we did
Speaker 5: on Saturday with Christine O'Reilly who is the executive director
Speaker 5: of White Sox Charities, as well as Chuck Garfine, our
Speaker 5: first ever guest on our first ever podcast, is going
Speaker 5: to be rejoining us. And then you already saw everything
Speaker 5: from Mike Vassal if you didn't, that's on our YouTube.
Speaker 5: So we also talked with Mike Vassal for about five minutes.
Speaker 5: So I think that was everything. The long and short
Speaker 5: of it, though, buy our shirt please, or at least
Speaker 5: buy a shirt right like you're you're doing a good
Speaker 5: thing for White Sex Charities, and we are very very
Speaker 5: very grateful that they included us.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I I'm really excited for everyone
Speaker 2: to hear the interviews we did. We got a chance
Speaker 2: to do at the ballpark. Drip garfind is a really
Speaker 2: good interview as well. We had a really we had
Speaker 2: a lot of fun with that interview, and it was
Speaker 2: it was kind of a super cool like coming to uh,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of a full circle moment for us,
Speaker 2: considering he was on our first episodes podcast, so that
Speaker 2: was really cool, even even if he didn't totally remember
Speaker 2: that he was our first our first guest, but that neither.
Speaker 1: Here nor there.
Speaker 2: Also long though, also as far as charity t shirts go,
Speaker 2: be sure to take a look at saxon thirty fifth.
Speaker 1: Do we have an article up there that will directly.
Speaker 2: Link you to being able to get kind of like
Speaker 2: on a like a sign up a sign up list,
Speaker 2: so you will get directly notified when those shirts go
Speaker 2: on sale. I've already sent that out to quite a
Speaker 2: bit of my family, friends, acquaintances, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That is going to be the easiest way for anybody
Speaker 2: outside of like say the Chicago land market to be
Speaker 2: able to know what day and when, because obviously not
Speaker 2: everyone's going to have access to White Sox games. And
Speaker 2: I sell to customers in like six different states for
Speaker 2: what I do for work, and I know for a
Speaker 2: fact they're all gonna buy T shirts. So the Nebraska
Speaker 2: White Sox fans are going to come in strong.
Speaker 5: Like I said, we're competitive, like I and again, like
Speaker 5: you want to. I am so big on make sure
Speaker 5: donating either your time or your money or something to share,
Speaker 5: and the great organizations in the Chicagoland area. It's something
Speaker 5: that's part of my job actually has been the past
Speaker 5: four and a half years part of that, and something
Speaker 5: I I'm very very very very passionate about.
Speaker 6: So yes, very competitive.
Speaker 5: I love where Duke's going with this, and I think
Speaker 5: we're all going to do it in our own right.
Speaker 5: But yes, just wanted to make sure everybody was kind
Speaker 5: of aware what was happening. And I think on probably
Speaker 5: our next show, Nick and Duke have decided that they
Speaker 5: are going to judge me harshly for the little thirty
Speaker 5: seconds I had on TV on Saturday. So if you're
Speaker 5: still here, make sure to come back for that if
Speaker 5: you'd like to hear them make fun of me. I've
Speaker 5: decided to let it happen for some stupid reason.
Speaker 4: It's not your choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're right, You're right. I think I've actually
Speaker 1: done on that.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to watch American site going preparation
Speaker 2: and just pay attention how he breaks down business cards,
Speaker 2: and that's how I'm going to break down how you
Speaker 2: did on TV.
Speaker 5: So I really should just put you on the spot
Speaker 5: and make you do it now. But better yet, I'll
Speaker 5: give you time to prepare.
Speaker 2: So oh I already have notes started. Well, Uh, well
Speaker 2: we'll recon we'll reconvene here soon. But uh, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: I I think we've covered about all we can cover.
Speaker 2: Really fun weekend at the ballpark. Uh, really excited to
Speaker 2: see where where everything kind of goes from here, and
Speaker 2: really excited to be part of anything the White Sox
Speaker 2: wants to get us included and it's always an honor.
Speaker 2: So that's all we have this week for the Socks
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Speaker 1: It's been due.
Speaker 2: Coughlin joined by Jory Lazowski, Nick Gower, and Carson Cass.
Speaker 2: Carson was a late ad, but I'll always love seeing
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Speaker 2: week of White Sox baseball.
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