WEBVTT - White Sox CRUSHING their toughest challenge yet | Episode 114 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:09.400 Socks on thirty fifth is next doors open on the left. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.760 How's it going everybody? This year? 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.319 Is Stup Coughlin and Welcome to the Socks on thirty 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:16.200 fifth podcast. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:17.439 We are back with. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.400 Another exciting episode, really exciting episode after the last two 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.320 series covering Yos, Cargo, White Sox. I'm joined by Jordanzowski 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.160 Nick Gower. We got Carson cass on the episode this week. Gentlemen, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.480 not even that I need to ask after these last 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.640 two series, but how are we doing? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.800 I'll start I normally don't, but you know I'm I 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.920 am the happiest man I'm playing Earth. I've gotten so 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.000 much lend Casper and my drives to and from work 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.879 on the Metro. This this team is special, and there 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.520 is no better way to really adjust it than radio 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.840 and then watching basically the full game back when I 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:54.280 get home. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:55.800 It's unreal. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 Yeah, I mean, we talked about it before we started 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.000 going live here. We're like, Carson hasn't been on an 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.959 episode in a while, and the team is so good 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.600 right now, vibes are Let's hear from Carson a little 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.240 bit first, because we're all so excited to talk about 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.759 this team. We've been talking about this in the last 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.319 few episodes, of course, But really I'm really enjoying getting, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.560 like you know, Carson, Michael Gretz and other guys on 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.120 the podcast to hear we're all having such a good 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.000 time watching this seam and it's nice to hear different 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.399 perspectives and you know, share the excitement with others. So yeah, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.440 looking forward to this conversation obviously, especially after this weekend. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.440 And yeah, Sunday or today's game, I should say, was 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.360 quite exciting. I love these big ginnings they keep having. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.960 We'd love more consistency, honestly, but I'm not going to 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.360 complain about a six running or eight running whatever they 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.640 had on Friday as well. So yeah, feeling good. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.960 I will add, vibes are good, like it's it's summertime. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.960 The sacks are good. You know what's the ballpark is fun? 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.880 Like that is we continue to talk about. It's such 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.920 an underrated element of it sometimes that you kind of 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.600 forget about, is like going there and seeing people and 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.960 running into folks. I know we'll talk about this a 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.200 little bit later, but the stuff we're doing with SOX 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.120 charities and just running into so many people and being 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.880 around so many of those folks. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:09.400 It's cool. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:10.640 It's cool, and. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.280 It's cool on top of the team playing so well, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.040 which is what it is for me. It's like, yes, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.480 all of these things that are happening, but also the 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.000 team is good and it's I keep saying, it's like 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.840 they weren't supposed to be. So that's the element on 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.560 top of it. So I'll continue the good vibes. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.679 Yeah, no, I think our discussion with Mike Vassel, he 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:35.840 nailed it. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.520 Vibes are immaculate right now, you know. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.760 For those who don't know, a lot of us spent 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.200 at Sachs on thirty fifth, spent the spent this Saturday 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.400 game getting to watch the game together kind of shoot 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.480 the uh, shoot the breeze. First time a lot of 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.640 us see each other in person in a while, just 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.600 by the nature of everyday life. But yeah, no, I mean, 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.160 I love I love hearing. I love hearing from Michael 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.080 Swuero and of hearing him talk about, you know, what 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.000 he thinks about the current current team, because typically when 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:05.200 we have. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.920 Him on here, we're talking about prospects. You know. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.680 I love seeing uh, the man himself, Joe and seeing 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.079 him pop down to a baseball game on the south 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.720 side of Chicago, you know, and just be able to 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.200 kind of shoot the breeze with him as well. So overall, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.639 as Mike Vice h Mike, Mike Vassel said, if I 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.800 could speak, it's been a long weekend, ladies and gentlemen. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:27.720 Vibes are immaculate. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.560 Uh Uh, summertime in the Shy is just a little 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.400 bit different when this baseball team on the South side 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:35.360 of Chicago was good. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.200 So everything so far rolling in the right direction. Saturday. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.040 Saturday had the potential to be a real bummer, but 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.440 someday proved that we're not going to let that keep 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:49.120 us down. But so obviously with that, with the last 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.880 week and with the upcoming week. Uh, there is quite 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.440 a bit cover in this episode before we get started. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.040 To be sure, it's describe to the podcast on Apple, Spotify, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.480 YouTube and awe else to hear your podcast obviously, like 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.760 I was saying, or to be with Mike Vassel is 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.280 up there, short and sweet, but you guys will really 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.760 enjoy it. We also have some other episodes that are 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.600 going to be going up this week for some interviews, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.800 and we did on Saturday. The White Socks were nice 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.720 enough to be able to give us access to those individuals. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.080 Also be sure to check out the website Socks on 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.880 thirty fifth dot com, as well as following us on Facebook, Twitter, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.919 and Instagram at socks on thirty fifth. So kind of 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.440 as I was saying at the top of the show 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.719 and Carson, I'm gonna let you kick us off right away, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:29.920 White Sox ticket four or five. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.000 In two of the best teams in all of baseball. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.200 We didn't get the opportunity to potentially sweep the Atlanta Braves, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.360 but getting two wins in that series was a bonus, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.440 a bigger bonus, and a lot of us ought we 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.960 were going to get in the first place, even if 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.280 we was going to be, you know, one of three, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:51.040 two of three obviously, just not getting swept ourselves, and 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.200 then the Dodger series after Friday felt like a sleep 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:59.880 was very much on the table. Yammbodo obviously kind of 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.200 sucked the air out of our sales a little bit, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.880 But the guy showed up to play at the right time. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.919 Lehn Casper did a really good job on the broadcast. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.080 Because I was listening to the game on the drive 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.160 home today and Len was just he couldn't stop driving 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.760 the point home that the Socks rally started because of 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.440 a failed Sam Antonachi challenge and Sam like you could 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.359 just see it written Oliver his face when he lost 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.760 that challenge. But what are your biggest takeaways from this 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.920 weekend with what this white sex team looks like here 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:29.640 moving forward? 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.880 Somebody who takes a lot of pride in having gone 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.320 to way too many games in twenty twenty four. There 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.960 isn't the feeling that you got and we'll go back 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.880 to the first Braves game that we've gotten to you 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.719 guys have gotten a chance to speak on that fully. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.640 Yet it is the feeling that this team is never 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.159 out of a game that is so unique and new, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.760 and you can see it in the ballpark. There's just 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.080 such an energy that this team is able to go 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.520 into any game, go down five to nothing, go down 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.080 six and nothing, you genuinely will keep the CV on. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.920 You have a real feeling that this TV needs to 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.520 stay on because we might get three on and then 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.480 and tend he might find that fast qual that he's 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.240 looking for on the inside portion of the plate and 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:12.880 drive one home. And it has just been so different, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.240 I think, And I was making a few jokes to 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.960 my friends here who are Knicks fans that like, I 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.760 am happier than they are that the White Sox are 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.240 winning these series, because it's just they get it. They'd 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.400 understand the entire pain that we've been going through. They've 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.400 been as bad as we had and such a big market, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.359 and I mean, they don't play little Brother, They've got 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.000 the nets. But it is so excruciating to be the 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.520 second place team in the city and finally feeling like 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.280 a first place team, even though it is really close, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.400 and I believe we actually are only a game ahead 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.680 of them in the Cubs. But you just this team 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.359 hasn't been in first place since I was fourteen. I 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.080 didn't know how to drive a car at that point. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.360 Now I'm living by myself. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.800 So it's just it's such a polarizing difference in my 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.200 heart to see a squad now that really plays this 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.560 game on a level that they're always willing to fight, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.400 they are always willing to get back into games, and 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.640 the pitching doesn't half to be perfect. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.719 I know we have this discussion the first time you 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.280 were on here, which is the other time, but when 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.599 you throw out like haven't been in first place since 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:14.040 like fourteen years old, I'm like, oh my god, it's like, 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.600 how young are you again? But anyway, you know, one 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.520 thing I thought was really interesting, and you know, the 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.320 three of us, Duke, Nick and I, we were sitting 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.480 next to each other at the ballpark. I was kind 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.840 of thrown out there and Nick, you and I were 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.520 kind of like, hey, after the fifth inning of a 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.080 perfect game, I don't care which side it's on, Like, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.080 I want to see a perfect game at that point, right. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.880 I will get plenty of crap for that, but I 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.920 genuinely believe I'm like, hey, that's history at a certain point, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.320 and I'd love to see it no matter who it is. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.320 But then you see what I think it was. Chase 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.680 my draft said after a Saturday's game or mcgalvary's one 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:53.040 of them, like, hey, even just scoring one run, getting 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.480 one hit, like felt like a win, Like we needed 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.440 that as a team. And then to come out and 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.680 see what they did on Sunday it kind of changes 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.240 your viewpoint on that. Maybe as a fan it doesn't 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.920 really change your viewpoint, but it's more so it adds 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.880 a layer to the idea of like, hey, like you 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.120 play one hundred and sixty two games in a year, 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.400 Like how much does one of these impact you versus 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.840 what the fan base would what an average family like 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.600 to see history. But then you see that, and then 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.600 the way they responded on Sunday, I think was the 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:25.400 best part of it. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.880 That was my biggest takeaway. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.240 For them to sit there and be like, you know, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.960 it really mattered to us that we lost seven to 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.720 one and got a hit like that felt like a 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.640 win in its own right, and then to come out 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.120 and play like that, like you backed up what you 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.480 said with results, And. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.880 That was my biggest takeaway from the weekend. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.280 Just Okay, you knew they could hang, you knew they 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:52.000 were gonna be around, but you got your teeth kicked in, 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.360 but you felt like there was a win in there, 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.000 and you actually went out and acted like it. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.080 That's a huge thing to me. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.320 Well, and if you remember Las, what was what was 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.439 the thing that I brought up about Chase Chase my 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:03.600 drafts at second base? 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.080 It looked like it was killing him to be just 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.240 getting no hit. Perfect gamed at that point you were 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:11.240 absolutely correct on that. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.560 Yeah, No, that's a great point. I mean you can 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.320 kind of see it on their faces, Like my draft 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.000 of Vargus Anton naci All these guys in the White Sox, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.280 for are like the grindy, like gamers, And I'm saying 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.959 that in a loving way. I love all those guys, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.600 but you can see how much they want to win. 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.800 And I've thought about saying this when he last recorded 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.480 on I think it was Thursday, where it was with 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.319 Brett instead of Duke, but I didn't want to say it. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.360 Be good Brett's of Packers man. But it's very like 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.360 twenty twenty five Chicago bearffs coded and that the game's 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.240 not over until there were zeros on the clock. I 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.520 mean for football, obviously for baseball, to the night thing 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.160 was over, you never feel that the team's truly out 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.080 of it. You kind of get the sense that everyone 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.559 loves playing four and with each other and rallying around 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.040 each other, like there's real camaraderie. And I know everyone 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 says that about a team that's good, but I hate 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.680 to throw the seam under the bus because I didn't 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.319 like them. But the twenty twenty so, yeah, a great team, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.160 but never really got the sense that they were all 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.760 that close, like with very clicky Uh. There's obviously a 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.120 lot of manager controversy throughout the year, but this team 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.199 is just completely different in that regard, and I really 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.520 think that matters. I Mean, we all, maybe not all 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.760 of us, sorry Carson, but we all we all know 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.480 in O five how important that was. So I'm not 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.880 saying this is five part two, but it's definitely there's 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.959 some similarities, that's all I'll say. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.640 Yeah, I mean the feeling is different than if you're 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.200 comparing it to the twenty twenty one team. And honestly, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.280 like I know it doesn't matter to you know, what's 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.000 happening on the field, but I think our fan base 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.439 kind of learned from twenty twenty one because so many 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.200 of us didn't take the time to actually enjoy that 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:49.199 run because we were typically arguing, like arguing and nitpicking 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.160 about small things like throughout that because like think back 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.080 to that, think back while, like when we were fans 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.320 in that era. We could win, we could we can 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.680 go win a series of Minnesota, and we would spend 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.480 like the next day and a half on Twitter just 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.560 beating each other over the head over some small, like 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.120 small deal. It didn't matter that we had won the series. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.199 It didn't matter that you know, it looks like the 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.720 vibes on the team are you know, right, it's I'm 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.400 mad because this guy was in the lineup. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.960 I'm mad that this guy got used in the bullpen. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.640 Like it was just a constant going at each other, 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.439 and I think like as a fan base, we've just 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.679 kind of learned from that, and we've just kind of 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.120 learned with how badly we've gotten our heads beat in 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.600 over the last couple couple of seasons that like, yeah, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.199 you know, I I think I think winning baseball's fund 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:38.679 no matter how you do it, you know, at the 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.439 end of the day, as long as the results there, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.320 I'm happy because nobody expected this team to win, so 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:48.160 I mean obvious, obviously expectations going into twenty twenty one 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.560 and then coming into this season were vastly different considering 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.400 where we were as a team. But I think I 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.920 don't see that negativity as much within the fan base 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.080 with each other, you know, I see civil conversation about 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.280 you know, small different things, and I like that. I 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.880 like being able to, you know, build on ideas instead 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.280 of just shooting them down. So it's just on a 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.200 fan level, I think that's something we've done an incredible 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.680 job of this this entire run, and I think the 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.719 players respond to that. I think the players all know 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.520 where we're on the same page as far as we're 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.240 enjoying the ride, we want to watch this team win. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.400 And they're an incredible easy team to root for. And 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.439 I think they would be even if we were if 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.840 we had an under five hundred record. So the fact 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.240 that we're you know, actually winning, we're actually battling for 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.160 first place in the division, I think it's incredibly easy 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.559 to root for this team. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.760 Up and down, up and down the lineup. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.400 So I would say over this entire five game stretch, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.440 and you know, let's not like, let's not think that 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:47.880 we're not out of the woods yet because we got 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.599 the Yankees coming up, and that's just not gonna be. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.440 That's not going to just be a super easy series. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.600 We walk into that lack of days ago, we'll get 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:58.600 punched in the mouth really fast. But this shows this 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.400 is a team that when there's some there's some you know, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.760 gas in the air and stuff on the line, that 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.480 these guys are ready to go. And you know it's 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.240 they talked to They talked to some coaches after the game. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.400 I can't remember exactly who said it, but they were asked. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:21.679 About Munataka Murkami's impact to the lineup and how the 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.840 offense has responded since. And the big thing that he 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.719 brought up was, like, Munataka Murkami is a huge part 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.800 of this lineup. All the guys like we like, we 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.800 all miss him, we all want to return the lineup, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.520 Like it's impossible to deny his what he brings to it. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.559 But he said when he got injured, he could field 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:44.480 in the air in the in. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.120 The clubhouse for about ten minutes and then after that 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.520 it was next man up. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:50.600 Let's keep rolling. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.720 And Murkami was one of the biggest advocates of that 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.640 as well, like listen, I'm not here, but keep moving forward. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.959 And I think that speaks volume to what this team is. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.320 No matter who's in the lineup on the day day basis, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.440 they're expected by their teammates to give it, give it. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.800 They're all because say, you know, Coles Montgomery or Miguel 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.720 Vargas has moved miss time, everyone else in the lineup 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.160 is gonna expect whoever replace them to give the exact 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.800 same amount of effort every single. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.120 Game, right, And I'm the one thing I'll say on 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.280 one thing you had mentioned about like the fan response 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.560 and things like that about the back and forth. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.640 I think that still exists though, right Like I think 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:27.120 it has to. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.920 Like we, I know, we keep saying good vibes only 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.160 and things like that about the team, but I think 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.080 it is important for us to be like, okay, for 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:39.760 example today, like this this wave that we're kind of 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.400 riding with, Sir Anthony Demingez like that, that's something Venerable 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.880 is gonna have to keep in check. For example, what 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.840 does this team look like? What kind of things do 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.520 they do when Teal is back or Schultz is back? 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.920 Like I was kind of intrigued by this whole idea 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.960 of bringing new come in. I know is most because 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.400 of lefties, but new come for a couple of innings 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.560 and only fed for maybe three, Like I was kind 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.280 of intrigued by that as well. Like Fetti's stuff looked 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.000 really good in a shorter span, really good as a 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.280 bit of a phrase there, but it looked better with 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.200 a little bit short of a span of a start. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.520 So maybe that works better. So there's definitely those things 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.480 that can go back and forth as well. But I 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.440 do I think it was close Montgomery who said it 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.240 after this game, like at a certain point you got 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:22.920 to step being like, oh, this is the surprise team, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.680 this is a surprise team, Like no, we're here, We're 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.440 staying we're legit and think of us that way. And 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.160 I think that's pretty cool at the end of the day. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:35.840 Great quote as a great quote, but uh yeah, overall, 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.640 I mean, I feel like we're kind of all on 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.600 the same page as far as feeling really good about 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.080 going into this upcoming stretch of games and then obviously 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.280 on the horizon. And this is something that we discussed 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.440 quite a bit on our previous episode and a lot 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.360 on our episode with Sean Anderson when we were talking 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:56.960 about the Cleveland series. Cleveland just lost Jose Ramirez for 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:02.880 like potential six to eight weeks, and I believe I'm 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.920 I'm blanking on the name of the guy who does 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.760 the pregame of post Game on ESPN one thousand and 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.600 I felt bad because somebody kind of took a Connor 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.640 McKnight shot on in one of the colors that they took, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.160 which was I thought, really out of pocket. But he 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.960 had said that the White Sox are going to play 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:25.080 Cleveland roughly ten games in those six eight weeks, So 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.480 that's that's a huge potential. 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.200 To grab an advantage there. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.480 You never want to wish like Indrey and your opponent 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.120 or anything like that, but this feels like an opportunity 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.840 for the White Sox that if you really want to 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.600 take a good leap in this division and you want 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.760 to start making that serious run here as we start 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.040 to get to July, this is that's going to be 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.000 the team that you're really gonna have to handle business against. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.560 And you're kind of being kind of being handled handed 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.840 an advantage right from the jump, because in theory, when 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.240 Takoburcami is going to be in our lineup sooner rather 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.120 than later as he starts to get healthier, and and 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.240 we're going to start having some of our other horses 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.359 come back, like Kyle Teal and No Schultz, who who 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.360 are going to be going on their Triple A assignments 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.560 here fairly soon. So much how much does the Guardians 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.480 lineup concern you without their best player of the last decade? 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.920 Cards In very little, I've been one of the two 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.359 White Sox fans has enjoyed watching Jose Ramirez and the 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.159 fact that I just as kind of grown up with 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.199 a team that hasn't won a. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.439 Lot so I just was accepting that well too. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.080 When he hit that home run off of Jose Ruiz right, like, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:32.760 you don't even remember that he. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.120 Is a very old thirty three. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.520 That is something I was I saw said very early 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.000 in the season, is that he is an old thirty 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.800 three and de Gram specifically as a young young thirty nine, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.080 if that makes sense. Where they're just guys that have 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.879 been around a while and there's guys that you. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:46.920 Haven't seen play a lot. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:52.160 But it worries me very little unless Manzardo finally randomly 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.879 figures it out. The lineup is lacking a serious amount 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.640 of power and extra base hit ability, and it's he's 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.000 kind of their primary spark in the middle of a lineup. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.320 You have to kind of play against him, and it 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.280 allows opportunities for guys like Rokio who are getting on 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.560 more because you're pitching around Rokyo because you don't want 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.480 to have a guy on. You need to get this 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.480 guy out. And Roko has been able to get taken 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.880 advantage of pitchers who went out pitching more to him. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.600 But is that going to stay around without a huge 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.600 power threat behind him, a huge hitting threat behind him. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:21.119 I don't think so. 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:22.479 I think pitchers are going to be a lot more 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.040