1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: Club finish. 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: For y'all done. 5 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 3: Yep, it's the one, the most dangerous morning show, the 6 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. Charlamagea God just hilarious. DJ Envy is not here, 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: but Layen l Rossa is. And you know, every now 8 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: and in here on the Breakfast Club we like to 9 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: give up and coming talent a shot. 10 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: And today we have a man who. 11 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: Is entering this industry and trying his hand at poetry. 12 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: He goes by the name of Matthew. Is that that mconnaugh. 13 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Mcconagie, Mcconagieye rhymes with what would Madonna's how are you man? 14 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm good man, good morning. 15 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: He's got a new book out, Poems in Prayers available now. 16 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Most folks know you for movies, they know you for speeches. 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if they necessarily know you for poetry. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: What made you want to put your thoughts in the 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Poems in Prayers instead of another book? 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, out the last few years, I started finding 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: myself getting a little bit cynical. I mean, doubt was 22 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: creeping in on me on my own faith, belief and myself. 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: And you know, mankind. I'm looking at the new I'm 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: looking at leadership, and I'm going like, huh, all right, 25 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: it seems that jackpot goes to the winner, no matter 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: if they lie cheating still to get it. Seems a 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of us are kicking the game when it feels going, 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: someone's moving the gold posts, and you know, are we 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: ready to say, okay, that's how it is? And I 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: think this doubt crept in on me. I started to say, well, 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe that's just how it is. That scared me, and 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: then thankfully it then pissed me off, and I said, no, no, no, no, no, 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to wave the white flag here and 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: concede and say that's the way things are going. So 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: since I wasn't finding belief in reality and evidence, I said, 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go to dreams and ideals, poems, 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: prayers and say, you know, let's not forget that beginner's 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: my McConaughey, and let's grab a hold of those ideals 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: and try to make those a reality. And because you know, 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: that's cynicism, I'd always swore to myself, you know, you born, 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: you're innocent, then you're naive, then you're skeptical because you 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: learn some things and you're discerning and make some decisions. 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: The next step, though, seems to be when we go 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: over the cliff to being cynical, doubting people, not giving 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. You start doing that enough, 46 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: you know what happens. You look in the mirror, you 47 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: do the same damn thing with yourself, and so it's 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: an early early death. And so that's what I found 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: myself getting. So I went to poems to prayers. 50 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: You said something earlier, you said, you know, people think 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: that they're getting the jackpot here, right, But you got 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: a poem in the book called the Other Day, I wrote, 53 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: wrote God a letter, And I feel like that's what 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: you have to do. You have to return back the 55 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: source because the jackpot probably isn't here, but we consider 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: that jackpot it's a mortal one exactly. 57 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: It's a it's a yeah, it's a it's a talisman, 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: or it's it's it's it's something that we that we 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: bow down to, and we're sold it every day as 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: being the chalice. Which I think we got to think longer, further, 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: project further, believe in God or not. I think we 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: got to do that, you know, because I'm talking about belief. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: For me, I'm working on my belief in God. But 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I think if anybody believes in their better self, their kids, 65 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: or if you don't know what to believe in, I'll 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: like say, ask yourself, who are what you die for? 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Start there. It's a good spot, probably what you would 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: be living more for, you know, double down on that bet. 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: And but you know, as a believer myself in God, 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I've got a hunch and I'm playing for a you know, 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: trying to cross an immortal, immortal finish line more than 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: just the ones that are you can win right here? 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 4: You know, is this book passion project for you? Because 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: you actually have a movie coming out on Friday, but 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: you're instead promoting a book. Was this passion project? 76 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look like I said, I wrote it 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: because the you know, I was tired of looking at 78 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: the evidence and and and I didn't feel like writing 79 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: another book like green Lights, but this would be a 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: sister of green Lights. Yeah, I wrote it. It came 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: out all of a sudden. It was at the same time, 82 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Hey that's gonna come out. You got a movie coming 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: out Lost Bus the same time. Don't we parlay that 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: situation hit the road, talk about poems and prayers, do 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: some shows, which I did my first show last night 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, and at the same time talk about the 87 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: lost bus. If you snap after you did your phone, 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I had any snaps. 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: You finished? 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Were? 91 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: They just quiet? 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: They stood and applauded. It was It was cool. It 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: was the first show to get it on its feet. 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: And h you have doing a little little tour with this. 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: And we did Brooklyn last night. And I go out 96 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: and I get like an opening twenty five minute sermon 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: set on the table. Then I'm by a musical guest 98 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: out and they're playing scores underneath about twelve of the 99 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: poems last night, John Mind, Jovie came out, going to 100 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Nashville today and Lucas Nelson. I don't like that little 101 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: light flex you did. That's just nothing right. 102 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Joy came out right. 103 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: We jammed going to Nashville tonight, Lucas Nelson, a friend 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: of Mine's coming out, go to Tulsa from there, Zach 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Bryan's coming out, go to La John Mayer's coming out, 106 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and then I returned to Austin and uh from my 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: hometown and John Batiste up and comers. Yeah yeah, And 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: all I said was can I get a couple of 109 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: chords under the reads kind of underscore and I will 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: see how they go. But last night John My Joey 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: did a hell a lot more than put a couple 112 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: of chords down. He wrote some songs. Wow. Yeah, it 113 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: was neat. 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 6: I read somewhere to tell me this is true at 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: one point in time. Because you're big on God now 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 6: and your faith. You talk a lot about it, but 117 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 6: you didn't believe in I. 118 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: Got it one. 119 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I've had my years of not believing. I've had a 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: couple of them that went on for probably two years 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: where I was like, no, self reliance is it. I'm 122 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: responsible for me. I'm not relying on any more fate, 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: forgiveness and all that ship I've got to I've got. 124 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: It's about me. I gotta be self reliant. And I 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: look back, I'm glad I did it, and I and 126 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I and they were very healthy for me. And when 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: I came back to God, I heard God applaud and going, 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: thank you for having your hands on the wheel, thank 129 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: you for having the courage to go. It is on you, 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: because I got too many people relying on fate alone, 131 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: and it is a combination. And I don't think that, 132 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, we self, reliance and faith usually are talk out. 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: We can't. They butt heads and I don't my hunches. 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: They don't that it's both. You know, it's free will 135 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: and it's fate. And while you know we do something, 136 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: is it already written divinely? Maybe? But do we have 137 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: something to do with it? And do we need to 138 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: have our hands on the wheel with the choices we make? 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: And they are up to us? I believe so as well. 140 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: So did you have faith and you lost it and 141 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: got it back or you never had it and. 142 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: Then no had it strong? But then also you know 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: questioning that you know, you grow up, you know, it 144 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: becomes sometimes it's a ritual. You know, there's many sermons 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: from my preacher on Sunday that I don't wasn't listen 146 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: to what he said. But the ritual of getting up 147 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, going to church, you know, being reminded 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and being humbled that you're at most number two today 149 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: and then prayers before meals that ritual. You know, you 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: get older, you start to question, well, okay, what does 151 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: that mean? And I want it to be more than 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: just ingrained in me, like like getting married. I didn't 153 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: want to ask Camilla to get married because it's that 154 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. I want to wait until I felt like, Okay, 155 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: now that's a covenant I want to I want to 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: make with God and Camilla and we want to go forward, 157 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: and I want to take that adventure forward. So the 158 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: same thing with faith. I've questioned it along the way. 159 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: And I love philosophy and I love science, you know 160 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm not sure with the Bible 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: what to do with the burn and bush, But there's 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: a whole lot of ethics and ways to live and 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: approach life and signpost in it that whether you're agnostic, 164 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: whether you believe or not, there's a lot of great 165 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: things to find in that book, as well as the 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Koran and many other books. So I've questioned my faith 167 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: along the way. 168 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: In the existence of God, well brought you back with 169 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: it like a mel Gibsons and signs moment less. 170 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Sure. Okay, One time was was quite literal. It was 171 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: the lightning bolt in the middle of a blue sky 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: summer that I'm like, what cloud did that come from? 173 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Where it shook my floor? Where Mother Nature, God or 174 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: whatever reminded me. Okay, just letting you know. Glad you 175 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: glad you think it's all on you. I'm reminding you 176 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: that use a little speck right now. You know it 177 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: was actual lightning bolt. Actual. Yeah. I was out out 178 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of the desert. I had I had 179 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: a micro climate cloud come over this little cabin. I 180 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: was in the desert. This was on Mother's Day. It 181 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: was eighty two degrees at noon and at two pm 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: this cloud came over. It rained, it held, it snowed 183 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: on me. In a one hundred yard circumference around the cabin. 184 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: I was at white snow two inches deep in lightning bolts. 185 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: What you found Mother's Day? 186 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 5: Like you were awaiting you felt snow like this happened. 187 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: This is real? No, And I was completely sober. I'm 188 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: not saying no, no, no, no, no no. I was 189 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: having my first cup of coffee watching this go down, 190 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: and uh. I then looked up and as I said, 191 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: walk to the edge. It was only around the cabin 192 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: I was at. I went into town. Nobody was like 193 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: snowed brough was it? No? We did could snowed? You 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: talk about it? And I taken pictures and like when's 195 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: that from It was like that's today, and it was 196 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: like this is impossible. That couldn't have happened. I was like, 197 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: it happened on top of me. And that was right 198 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: at the time I went out and again the lightning 199 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: bolt at the time when I'm saying I don't believe 200 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: bam wow, And I went, oh, excuse me, maybe I 201 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: need to Oh, I'm here. I hear you, I hear you, 202 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: you know, And he was saying, just checking in on you, 203 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: big boy. Thought you you got it going. I appreciate it. 204 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Don't get too big for your brushes. So that I've 205 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: had it that way, I've had it other times. We're 206 00:09:53,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: just look, I mean you haven't you have your first child, wife, 207 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: you're his first child. You want to talk about believe 208 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: the birth? Yeah, and sit there. I'm going to hear 209 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: in a whale cry or hearing your dog on kids 210 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: in the other room laughing together. You see God and 211 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: your woman, you see God and your wife like that? Right? 212 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: What the how did you do talk about miracles? How 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: did you do that? How did that? How do you 214 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: have that ability? And then you know there's all that people. 215 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a better word for it. 216 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: There's enough coincidences that happened where you're like, you know what, man, 217 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: it was a mystery going forward, but now looking back, 218 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: there's a science that adds up that I did not 219 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: have anything to do with that choice that happened, and 220 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: I got the I got grace enough times where I'm like, Okay, 221 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I got nothing to do with that, Matt. That wasn't 222 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: my choice. And some things lined up and in ways 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: that were more than just coincidence to me. And I've 224 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: had times where I've taken trips, you know when and 225 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: off of my own twenty five days of my own, 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and around day fourteen had certain revelations where you know, 227 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: when that truth hits you at four am solitude, it 228 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: hits you soft as a butterfly, but with a lightning 229 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: bolt as well, and you reminded, been reminded of some things. 230 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: You know, remember that truth, even when you go back 231 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: into the masses in the busy world, do not let 232 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: go of that truth, you know. So, yeah, that's what 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: inspired truth Sleeve. Yeah, she'll come and visit, you know 234 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, if you if you want more than 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: just to playing with her, she'll be She'll stay in 236 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: your bed all night every day. You know what I mean. 237 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: It's talking about truth, y'all? Not okay? Yes, yeah, yeah yeah. 238 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: And she'll be there with you forever and then hang 239 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: out with you your conscience and everything else, and she'll 240 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: be a great friend. But she's tough. She's tough to 241 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: live with because you call you on your shit. Yes, right, 242 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 243 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: We got to be willing to look truth in the 244 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 3: eyes and deal with that. Like, you know, it's one 245 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: thing I was I was happy I said this yesterday. 246 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, integrity to me is being honest 247 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: with your self. Yeah, honesty and truth is when you 248 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: with other people, but actually having integrity is when you 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: can be honest with yourself. 250 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: That's hard for some folks. Yeah, it's been hard for 251 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: me in my life sometimes. I mean, you know, I 252 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: talk about how how I pray in here. I go 253 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: through a rolodex in my mind and you know, people 254 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: I love and care about, and I until I find 255 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: a shot an image of them when they're most themselves, 256 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, not the happiest or saddest or emotionally, just 257 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: when they're kind of graceful going in and they're like shining. 258 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I go through that and the last person I get 259 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: to before I in my prayers, I got to go 260 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: through rolodex myself when I'm that way, and that can 261 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: take a mighty long time to find that image. And 262 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: I've had many times where I'm looking in the mirror 263 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing another you know, and I got to 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: sit there and hold my gaze until i can call 265 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: myself on my on my bullshit, you know, and put 266 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: the put the facade down. And that can take a 267 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: while to find that for me. But then I'm also 268 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: happy to say I've had many days where I can 269 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: look myself in the I goo, yes. 270 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: Sir, speaking of that. How vulnerable? How vulnerable did you 271 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: have to be? And I don't write this book but 272 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: to share share it. 273 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, vulnerable is a funny word. I hadn't worked out 274 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: my relationship with definition of vulnerability. Yet. It doesn't feel 275 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: I've been told that though I hear what you're saying, 276 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: because we would say the same question, and I'm going, 277 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, is it really I don't feel what's 278 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: so vulnerable about it? Because I believe it, So don't 279 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: feel like I'm I'm exposing anything myself. If anything. I've 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: had people go, Wow, that's that's ballsy of you to 281 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: talk go talk about belief and grace and forgiveness in 282 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: God and in the way you're doing it. I've heard that, 283 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't. I don't feel like I'm 284 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: being brave. I don't feel like I'm being like, oh 285 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: my gosh, I really exposed myself. I mean, I think 286 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking a language that's that I know it's true 287 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm hearing that it's true for others 288 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: as well. Now you'll know, man, Hollywood doesn't isn't the 289 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: first one to talk about belief in religion or in God, 290 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I've had wonderful times 291 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: with out there with with with people that are believers 292 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: that may not want to admit it publicly prayed with 293 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. I've got a lot of agnostic 294 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: friends who do not believe, but we sit there and say, 295 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: say are graces and thank you? So, I mean, I 296 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: don't know someone's asked me that, or aren't you kind 297 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: of afraid to do this since you're Hollywood to go 298 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: talk about God? I mean in that kind of a tabot, No, 299 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean it never was before for me, and I'm 300 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: sure as hecking now. So I'm on my own spiritual 301 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: journey trying to is that this book right, this book 302 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: is therapy for me. I'm in the middle of it, 303 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: going out last night and putting it on its feet 304 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: and showing sharing with people and engaging back and forth. 305 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm finding more connection with myself as well. I'm 306 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: sure you know, because I gotta strengthen my own belief 307 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: I want to. 308 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 6: Are you delivering people like your friends that you're talking 309 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: about that are in Hollywood, that you might not have 310 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 6: strong belief or whatever. Do you find yourself kind of 311 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: bringing them to what you believe? 312 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not. I'm never I'm not. That's not 313 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: where I'm putting my sweat equity into conversion. I want 314 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: to sit there and go. I do think there's a 315 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: lot of people that say, oh, I'm just spiritual, and 316 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I think that's halfway that I'm like, actually, I'm listening 317 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You're very religious. Actually the religion 318 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I love going back to the root definitions of words. 319 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Religion comes from the Latin root legare, which means to 320 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: bind together and re means again, so that's unity. Now, 321 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people talk about the unity 322 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: is what I'm for. I'm not religious, but I'm for unity. 323 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm spiritual. I'm like, well, that's actually that's definition of religion. 324 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: So what I think, what I try to talk to 325 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: people about and remind him, is that I don't think 326 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: religion is a problem. It's what man did with it 327 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: along the way, and where it excluded so many, and 328 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: where it became a business, and where the snake salesman 329 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: came out. And have you got reason to be skeptical 330 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: people preaching some stuff and what they're selling. But don't 331 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: throw religion out. Religion, I think it's all I think 332 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: life's religious. It's all religious I do. But don't throw religion. 333 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Throw religion 334 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: out just because mankind bastardized it along the way. 335 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: Because I believe in being spiritual more than religious. I 336 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: feel like people can get caught up in religion and 337 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: they just do all the practices or even get caught 338 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: up and going to a place of worship every week, 339 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: but you're really not tapped into the spirit. You're just 340 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: doing things that you feel like you should do. Because 341 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: that's what the religion calls for. 342 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: But don't you think the ritual, the like mantras. You know, 343 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: monks they repeat the same thing six times a day 344 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: in these psalms, they get to they get ingrained. Don't 345 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: you think the ritual of that if it brings you 346 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: back the spirit? 347 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: Right, If you're just saying, like I'm going to church 348 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: on Sunday just because just to make yourself feel better, 349 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: it's like going to the gym and not really working out. 350 00:16:52,680 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, well, look, I mean sometimes it's 351 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: it's the effort of just going I don't have the connection, 352 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: but I'm trying. And I think it was a great 353 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Benedictine monk Thomas Merton that said, God, I believe that 354 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: trying to please you pleased you, and that sometimes I 355 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: gotta go to myself is a little amnesty to go, hey, man, 356 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: you're trying me going through the doubts that I've got 357 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: to look at that instead of going, oh what the 358 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: hell McConaughey going no, it's part of the process. Man, 359 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: keep trying. Man, you know we're gonna you know, you don't, 360 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I'm not. Maybe I got 361 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: to I do. Maybe I got a lot further to go. 362 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna have full faith, seems if 363 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have full faith, that you gotta have full surrender. 364 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I ain't doing that, not yet. I got some more 365 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: humility to learn on that way, if that's where I 366 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: can go, But I'm not there yet to fully surrender? 367 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Is Hollywood keeping you from doing that? Because you know 368 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: when people sighed eye you, and you haven't feel. 369 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: Any push back by having, like, you know, putting well 370 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 3: first of all, putting out something so spiritually. 371 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: Just I don't. I don't if it's there. Look, I 372 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I've been out there thirty five years 373 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: and I've got I understood. The community knows me. I 374 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: know them if I do. They may be saying it 375 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: behind the back, but they understand it to me, and 376 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: they're usually much They're much more open, I think than 377 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: they've been stereotyped to be. I don't there's not a 378 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: pushback now. Like I said, a lot of people may 379 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: not go out and say I'm a belite, but they 380 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: might want to keep that to themselves. But they're not saying, dude, 381 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's not like I'm going, well, 382 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: we're not going to you know, let's not hire McConaughey 383 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: because let's not hang out with him because because also 384 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: but I mean, i think they're very, very clear, and 385 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: I think I've been clear with who I am. I'm not. 386 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there so excluding those people from the 387 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: table if they do not believe I'm not, that's not 388 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: that's not my way, you know. So I've never said 389 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: to them, well, pray for this, but we can't have 390 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: dinner together. It's not what I'm saying, have no means 391 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: to say that, nor do I want to. I'm saying, 392 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: come on to the table. And like I said, if 393 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: you're not a believer in God, find so. If you 394 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: believe in sign and go. If you're not a tyrant 395 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: or nihilist, you're not trying to harm people. Whatever it 396 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: is you believe in. Double down on more of that science, philosophy, 397 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: whatever it is. 398 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 6: What a like you talked about earlier, reflection and looking 399 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 6: in the mirror and doing I guess doing that all 400 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: writ in this book. What's been like the hardest time 401 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 6: that you had to face yourself? 402 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Hardest time on I had to face myself, Well, before 403 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: the first one that comes to mind probably be fifteen 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: years ago. I was doing rom comms and I was 405 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: a go to guy in rom comms and enjoyed them. 406 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: But I'd in my real life, I'd met Camilla, fall 407 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: in love with her. She was now pregnant with her 408 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: first child. And if you got kids, you know, that's 409 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: a real vital time life, you know. And as a man, 410 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any time a man is more 411 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: maschland than with the birth of a first child, or 412 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: the heart, head, body and lays are more aligned then 413 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: than ever. So my life was very vital. My work 414 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: felt like I could get up and go do that 415 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. It's nothing wrong with that, but I was 416 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: looking for my work to challenge boy, could that be 417 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: is maybe as exciting as and as vital as my 418 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: life is. And mind you, I did look in the 419 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: mirror and say, be damn Glad McConaughey, that you feel 420 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: like your life is more vital than your work, not 421 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: the other way around. But can we get find some 422 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: work that can be as vital as my life? So 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to do dramas. That's where the work I 424 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: wanted to do. Hollywood says no, sir, stay in your lane, 425 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: so I'll take pay cut. They said, I don't care, 426 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: stay in your lane. So I said, all right, I 427 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: can't do what I want to do. I'm gonna stop 428 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: doing what I've been doing. So went to Texas with Camilla. 429 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: She's pregnant, we said, stepping out, told my agent no 430 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: more rom Comma Da Da Da da. I said, okay. 431 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: And I remember Camilla and I saying that this. You 432 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: don't know how long you're gonna go without work. This 433 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: could be a drive spell for a while. You don't 434 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: win the money yet. Man, I might have just wrote 435 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: myself one way money right, all right, I hear you, 436 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going I hear you. Plus I got accomplished 437 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: stuff for my own significance, and now what am I 438 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna do? I ain't gonna go down, and you know, 439 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: start making chimes for a living, you know. So I'm 440 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm out of them, out of rom comms. I'm 441 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: I'm not on the beach anymore shirtless, which kind of 442 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: looked like I was in a rom common in real 443 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: life as well. Right, and uh, I got nothing coming 444 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: in my agent's like, man, I hadn't heard your name 445 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: in five months, et cetera, et cetera. Damn Yeah. So 446 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: now we get into twelve months where year no work. 447 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think maybe I did write myself one 448 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: way ticket out of Hollywood. Maybe I need to look 449 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: for another vocation. Maybe I'm gonna go back to law school, 450 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: become a lawyer. Maybe I've become a teacher. Eighteen months 451 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: go by. Check this out, and I think you'll you'll 452 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: know exause what I'm talking about when I say this, 453 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: This uh rom com action coming to the script comes 454 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: in eight million dollar offer. I read it. I said, no, 455 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: thank you. They come back. Ten million dollar off. I said, no, 456 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: thank you, they come back, twelve million dollar offer. I said, 457 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: no thank you, they come back fourteen point five million 458 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: dollar offer. I said, let me read that thing again. 459 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: So I opened it up the same script as a 460 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: million mal offer, but it was better. I can see 461 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: myself making this work. Did you was turning it down? 462 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: She knew everything, she knew, She thought, now, My brothers 463 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: thought I was buck. Brothers were like, what is your 464 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: major malfunctional? But I had made the decision, and come on, 465 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: I made the decision. There wasn't It was no negogtial 466 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: wasn't going back anyway. I read it again, it was better, 467 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: but I ultimately he said no thing. And I think 468 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: that sent a signal after eighteen months of being out 469 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: of Hollywood. Oh old McConaughey bluffing, you know what I mean. 470 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing, but he's playing offense. 471 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: He's he's turned down fourteen to five. That's not a 472 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: receding move to do that. He's up to something. So 473 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: you parlay that declining fourteen to five along with eighteen months, 474 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: which turns to twenty months out of Hollywood, out of 475 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: rom coms, not in the theater, not in your living room. 476 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, well, you know who'd be a novel, 477 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, new good idea for this drama? Killer 478 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe or Mud or Lincoln Lawyer now aspires club true 479 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: de TEXTI McConaughey. Wow, But only because I unbranded, because 480 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I was gone. I had to go get anonymous, you 481 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah? 482 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 6: What type of prayers were you seeing during that time? 483 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 6: Because that's all right, the money you know. 484 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I needed to I trust me that that The old 485 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: bottle on the shelf started looking better earlier and earlier 486 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: in the day too, you know, I was I lost 487 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: my work. Man's got to work for significance and I 488 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: didn't have it. You got depressed. No, I didn't get depressed. 489 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get depressed because thankfully I got a newborn 490 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: and the only thing I ever wanted to be, no, 491 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: I've ever wanted to be in life is is father. 492 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: So anytime I focused on our son, Levi as a 493 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: newborn and a new life brought in, that really kept 494 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: my compass grounded. It was long days, you know, without 495 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: cheapness of my own stuff, but I had that as 496 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: an anchor. 497 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: And that's that's such an incredible story because I you know, 498 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: when I think about you going from rom com to 499 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: an Oscar winning dramatic actor, I always wondered, what was 500 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: the pivot or how did you know it was time 501 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: to pivot? And just to know it was just an 502 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: intentional decision to want to be taken serious. Was That's 503 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: That's powerful. 504 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: That was it. And I had to step out, and 505 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: it was it was twenty months total that I was out. 506 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: And trust me, like I said, I did think that 507 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I just I think I wrote myself a one way 508 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: to take it out of Hollywood. What did that teach you 509 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: about the power of intention. 510 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: That. 511 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: There's certain decisions like that decision to do that that 512 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: came that hit me at four am. You know that 513 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: the fact that I wasn't feeling alive in my work, 514 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: the fact that it was paling in comparison to how 515 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: wonderfully dramatic my life was, that was clear to me 516 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: that that's what I needed to make a change, and 517 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: I it was a non negotiable. So once again, once 518 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: those truths hit, as we talked about earlier, and you go, 519 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: I know that's true for me in my soul, but 520 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: now I'm going to re engage with the masses, and 521 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: slowly that onion can get peeled and you start to go, well, 522 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I can't maybe I could, You know I didn't. It's 523 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: very clear. It was like, no, this is I'm not 524 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: going back on the idea that if nothing would have 525 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: come at twenty months, I was not going to go 526 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: back and do what I'd done. I'd be doing something 527 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: different if nothing had comes since then, I would be 528 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: doing something different in my life right now. I was 529 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: not going to go back. So the idea that of 530 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: not flinching once you made a decision, and you can 531 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: out endure a situation, and you can also seem to 532 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: find after a while, like fifteen months of nothing from 533 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: going out of my mind, all of a sudden kind 534 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: of start to get a little honor in charge and 535 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: filled up with like the endurance of it. It's almost like, Okay, 536 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the longer this goes, I got to hunt the reward 537 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: on the other sides getting bigger with every day I'm 538 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: going through this penance drought. I got a feeling that 539 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: that there's a bigger reward over there. I'm in this 540 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: for the long game. And you know, thankfully said it 541 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: all came back around. I didn't have anything to do 542 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: that besides being out of Hollywood, but the offers came 543 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: in for the work I wanted to do. But making 544 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: a decision, being clear on it and then saying as 545 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: I I know this and projecting ahead. It's like COVID. 546 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: I think, hey, we did my family did pretty good 547 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: in COVID. And one of the things I think was 548 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: when it came we sat down, I told the cause 549 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: playing on this being this way for ten years, what 550 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: damn so think it's going to be longer? And then 551 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: when it is over in four years, You're like, oh shit, 552 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: I was rolling. I could have handled more. Yeah. Right, 553 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: So I was thinking it could be worse than it 554 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: was going to be. I was thinking that I may 555 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: be in a drought and not get any offers for 556 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: five years, and hell, I'm gonna have to find something 557 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: else do. Well, luckily it comes in two years in 558 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: WHEREK came. You know that's a psalm forty six ten. 559 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Be still and know that I am God. You just 560 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: got to be still and hold it and hold it. 561 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes you change by staying the same, and the world 562 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: does this and it comes right back to the baseline 563 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: that you're on going. Oh you're brand new, and you're like, no, 564 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: I've been right here. I just held you know what 565 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah. 566 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: So when you transitioned into drama, Matthew McConaughey, have any 567 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: did any of your roles alter your perception of reality? 568 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: Did any of my roles alter my perception of reality? Well, 569 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: I will say this, I kind of flipped the script. 570 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: Remember earlier I was saying my life was so vital 571 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: and my work was paling. The work got so vital 572 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, I was like I had 573 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: a little moment you know, I was like, Oh, my 574 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: life's not as vital as my work. Ooh fiction. Playing 575 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: these other characters that are written, I'm kind of getting 576 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: off to them more than I'm getting off being me 577 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: in the documentary That is My Life. That scared me 578 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: a little bit too, which is why I started writing. 579 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: And then while I wrote Greenlight to when I'm writing 580 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Points Press, I tried been challenging myself for the last 581 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: six years, going all right, you know, you go out, 582 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: You're doing someone else's script, written by somebody else, directed 583 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: by someone else, lends in a camera by someone else, 584 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: and edited by someone else. That's for filters from your 585 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: raw expression. So I was like, let's get rid of 586 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: some filters here. And who are you in life McConaughey, 587 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: in this documentary where action has been called the day 588 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: you were born and cuts gona be called the day 589 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: you leave this life? What are you doing live in 590 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: this live show where hands of time or recording it? 591 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: And That's what I've been the last six years, kind 592 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: of challenging myself. So I go to a book. Now 593 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: if there is one filter with the book, because it's 594 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: a written word the performance, right, there's no filter. That's 595 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: direct to the audience. So it was one filter. But 596 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if the written word and I 597 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: could tell some personal stories that could be entertaining that 598 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: people could see themselves in and go and then go 599 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: look in there and go, you did that good job, McConaughey, 600 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: or you know, here's where you could have made it 601 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: even more true or better. And I wanted to need that. 602 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: And so that's sort of a phase I'm in now 603 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: where I'm still doing work. What made lost bus made 604 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: another one called the Ribbers of M'SI and I tell 605 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: you I went back to you know, it spent six 606 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: years since it acting in a role. I one forgot 607 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: how much I enjoyed it, and two forgot how much 608 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: it feels like a vacation because it's a singular focus. 609 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: And I've been compartmentalizing more of the last six years, 610 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: taking on more different things, checking out leadership roles, writing books, family, 611 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. But the singular focus of going to act 612 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: and going I'm obsessed and all I revered this craft 613 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: enough to be obsessed with my man, this character. In 614 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: every idle moment I've got, I've got work I can 615 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: do to tell more of the truth on this character, 616 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: and I give myself three months to do that. That 617 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: sort of blinders. Yeah, And I think for my wife 618 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: that when I go out the door every morning, she 619 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: got the kids and says, don't look over your shoulder, 620 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: go conquer. I got this shit handled, big, big help. 621 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: But I'm able to just singular focused when I go 622 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: act and I missed. It felt like a vacation. Why 623 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: didn't the Yellowstone spend off happen? So we talked about it, 624 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Taylor and I. It just never it never came to 625 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I never saw a script I wanted to see, you 626 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: know what. The the idea was good, it just never 627 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: got the script form. So Taylor and I continue to 628 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: talk about what might be the best way to work together. 629 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: So you were you were attached to it like it 630 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: was actually happen. Well, I mean I was. It came out. 631 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm always curious about this because it came out my attachment, 632 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: which I wouldn't never signed anything. There wasn't any real attachment. 633 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: It just Taylor and I creedively talking about it could 634 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: be a good idea, right. But it was interesting because 635 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: it came out in the news in the trades about 636 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: the same time Coster's leaving, so I don't know if 637 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: it was publicly put out there to sort of counterbalance. 638 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: We got the exit of our guy Gostler, who we've 639 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: all known, so let's make sure it looks like we've 640 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: got somebody else coming in that we can be excited about. 641 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: So there was never a contract or anything. It was 642 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: just he and I. He and I talking about it, 643 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: and what about this Barbie sequel? You really gonna be 644 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: in the Barbie? Said O, Man, I don't know. Someone 645 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: came up with that. No, someone just I think American Frere, 646 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: just like who's in Lost Bus with me? I think 647 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: she mentioned it on some talk show going you could 648 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: be the King of Kens and he kins, I can 649 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: put a font to that. Hey, let's put a picture 650 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: up all of a sudden, I some of the show, 651 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: he said yesterday, I'm on some show and I'm there 652 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: in a white suit at Kings. That's just as real 653 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: as that is. Would you do it? I don't know. 654 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like it could be fun. 655 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 5: You know, it'd be good for the kids. 656 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. 657 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 6: And then with the Lost Bus, I saw that you 658 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 6: when your son because he's in a movie with you. Yeah, 659 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 6: Leb yeah, Levi, you asked for his last name to 660 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 6: be taken off when you submitted his casting video. 661 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the dad decision to do that? 662 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 6: Like? 663 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I pitched every you know story of the 664 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: script that a movie I'm going to do the family 665 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: and this one has a son, and my son comes 666 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: to me and goes, hey, your son cash? Yeah, I 667 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: said no. He goes, how old is it kidding the 668 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: script about your age? Say, it's kind of can I 669 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: read for it? And I'm like, huh, kind of ignored him. 670 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want to see some hustles. He 671 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: He's not just coming at me like this is a 672 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: whim right. Well, he kept badgering me and kept badgering me, 673 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: and finally go okay, all right, so first of all, 674 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: let's sit down. Let me talk you about this acting gig. 675 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: This ain't you don't show up with attitude. There ain't 676 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: no modeling gig. This is a rodeo man. You gotta 677 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: go with soul and nobleshit in your bones. All right, 678 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: So just set the table of this is a serious craft. 679 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: And then we talked him for a couple of days 680 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: and then he said I've got to see and I'd 681 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: love to shoot. I pulled up my phone shot him 682 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, he holds a camera, all right, 683 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: he can behave honestly in front of the camera. He 684 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: can even improvise. Did well? I send that to the 685 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: cash and director? I said, I think this might be 686 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: good enough for a callback. She writes back, I think 687 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: it might be good enough to send to the director. Okay, great. 688 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Can you do me a favor and pull his last name? 689 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: Because you know, forgetting nepotism? Just what if he got 690 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: the job with my last name? You're at a bar, 691 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: right or he's got it thinking in his mind? Did 692 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: part of the reason I got that? Because come on, 693 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: that ain't a good friend. That's why we didn't name 694 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: it Matthew, so it would be Matthew Jr. You know 695 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? Although Levi is another name for Matthew. 696 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: We got away with that, Yeah, saying Matthew jeans post alone. 697 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: Get on that way? You got your prayers in print, right? Yeah? 698 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: How often do your prayers going going answers? And do 699 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: you still trust God in those seasons that they do? 700 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Where is there any such thing as an unanswered prayer? 701 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: Meaning if you don't get what you're praying for, and 702 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: now that it's still an answer. Sometimes you know, Mighty 703 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: gave you what you need, not what you wanted. What 704 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: you need what you want right, that's and and and 705 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: and you know, it's funny sometimes when I hear people 706 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: praying for it because you've got blue collar prayers and 707 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: you've got white collar prayers. You hear someone praying death. 708 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: You know, win that oscar, get that yacht. You're going, Man, 709 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: I hang on, but I ain't. Guys got better stuff 710 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: to do. Man, you talk about as white collar prayers 711 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: that ain't ain't working. We got to talk about what 712 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: do you need now? What you want now? I do 713 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: think my definition of heaven on earth is where what 714 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: you want is what you need, and what you need 715 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: is what you want, Where what you actually need is 716 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: what you desire, or what you desire, what you're salacious for, 717 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: what you lust for is actually what you need is 718 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: actually worth loving, hard place to get to. But boy, 719 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: when that's when in the pocket, I think that's when 720 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: we're in the honey hole right there. You know, some 721 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: people say, what could you still be praying for? 722 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: Because you have the Oscar, you have the fame, you 723 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: have the money you had those. 724 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never prayed for any of those either. Okay, 725 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: no way, I'd feel like I'd feel like a fraud 726 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: praying for that again, I think that would be a 727 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: white collared prayer. Where God's going on. I got, I got, 728 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: I got real stuff to try and handle, you know 729 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. I pray for the health of my family. 730 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: I pray for myself to be the type of father 731 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: that can maintain a healthy family unit. I pray for 732 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: UH to have the patience to sometimes be a what 733 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: I would call better husband. I pray for the discernment 734 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: to listen and try to make the choices that can 735 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: feed me and my family and life going forward, to 736 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: make decisions that will pay me back for the long term, 737 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: for the long haul, and for the decisions that can 738 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: those decisions that can pay me back also, where are 739 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: those also the ones that can pay the most people back. 740 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: That's the kind of things I pray for, you know. 741 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: And then I mom's ninety three, man, you know, he's awesome, 742 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: and she's rolling and from the neck up, she's younger 743 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: than that. We'll see how long the body holds up. 744 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: But I pray for and I, you know, I don't 745 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: even know. She feels like I need to pray for her. 746 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: She's she's she's great. She's good. Man. When she's ready 747 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: to go, she goes tomorrow. She's good. You know what 748 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean. She's nothing sentlemental about it her. She can 749 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: talk about death like right here in front of you, 750 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: like you're talking about drink of water. 751 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 5: Older people, Margaret, mother's the same way they get. 752 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: They live like they it's like your revolutionary when you're young, right, 753 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: and then you get your thirties and forties and you 754 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: start to go, oh, some of that stuff Mom and 755 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: dad taught me was right. So I'm gonna get a 756 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: little more responsible. And then you get about sixty and 757 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: what they slip back. They don't give a shit about it. 758 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean hurting anybody. Oh, they'll get over it. And 759 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: you're like, like, my mom, the stuff she'll lie about, 760 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: I would do her. She's still lying in ninety three. 761 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. She's like, she's like, oh yeah, you lie, 762 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: I swear to it. So she starts telling me she 763 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: she's done some crazy stuff. Man. She had this, uh 764 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: she had this boyfriend that my dad died and uh 765 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: uh he was living at the house and stuff, And 766 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: they've been dating for about a year and a half 767 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: and they lived out this country club out in southwest Houston, 768 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: and my brother Pats playing golf one day and these 769 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: four older gentlemen on the other fairway call them over 770 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: and go, hey, pack, congratulations. Man pass about what and 771 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: he goes about your mom c J. The marriage. He's 772 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: like what Mary, Oh yeah, yeah, we all heard about it. 773 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: So he goes home, Mom, what'd you do? We're talking about? No, 774 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: I just so you got oh that? What what'd you do? Mom? Well, 775 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: the monthly bills the club are four hundred if your 776 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: only partners, but there are two fifty if you're married. 777 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: Come on, dragged her down to the country club, made 778 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: her get on the mic and tell everyone I was 779 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: bullshit and I was lying out of so she do 780 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that, right, And I'm like, yeah, you know 781 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: not to lie, blah blah blah blah. And I go, 782 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: do you have anything, Mom? No one forgives themselves quicker 783 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: than you do. You have anything at the night. But 784 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: when you roll the deck through your mind about things, 785 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: you may regret things you want to change it her. 786 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: She goes, oh, honey, I do every night. I got 787 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: a list. It's probably twenty five things on I got regrets, 788 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: things I change, oh, things that I just I'm sorry for, 789 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: she said. But you know the thing is, when I 790 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, I forgot them all. That's 791 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: her and she's not a shallow woman at all. But 792 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: boy does she move on from And she doesn't generally 793 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: judge people. That's another thing about her. She has zero stress, 794 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: zero stress. Yeah, anyway, that's my mom. 795 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: I didn't realize they told us the wrapt five minutes ago. 796 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: So my last question, if you could go back and 797 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 3: talk to the version of yourself that first said all right, 798 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 3: all right, all right, yeah, what would you. 799 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: Tell that person? Days Confused nineteen ninety first scene I 800 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: was ever in a movie and tell you where it's from. 801 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm wasn't even supposed to work that night. I'd never 802 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: acted before, I'd never been on screen. All right, So 803 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm in this car getting a 804 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: lava leer Mike put up. I mean the scene is 805 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pick up this red headed intellectual 806 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: who's played by Marissa Robisi, and she's got nerds in 807 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: the car, and I'm Woodson, who's hanging out at school 808 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: and then I'm older, but I still like the high 809 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: school girl, So pull and pick her up. Nothing's written. 810 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: Gonna improvise this. Well. As I'm getting the mic put 811 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: on me, I'm starting to get a little nervous. 812 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: Make sure you're acting with that line, because they'll take 813 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 3: that out of context and put that on the internet. 814 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: That's Watterson and everything. Everything I'm about to say, gotta 815 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: remember us talking talking the first person from our characters. 816 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: There's plenty, plenty of times, plenty of times through the day. 817 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: You could record what I'm saying and put me in jail. 818 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm going on, I'm peeking through the pills someone else. Right. 819 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: So Woodson was a guy who was hanging out the 820 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: high school. He was out, and that's he has the line. 821 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: There's a great line written run there like, man, you 822 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta quit. You know you gotta cut that 823 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: out work, And he says, no, that's what I love 824 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: about those high school girls. Man, I get older, they 825 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: stayed the same. 826 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: Aig that was you have to have to double down. 827 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: We got it, we got a right. I raved that 828 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: line because people know that a right anyway. 829 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there nervous about this first scene, starting 830 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: to get you know, a little anxious, and I'm like, 831 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: who's my man? Who's Wooterson? Going through my head? Who's 832 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: my guy? I got a Wooterson man loves loves it, 833 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: love my car, I said, Boom, I remember seveny chavelle. 834 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: There's one, I said Woterson. Watterson loves rock and roll, 835 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: I said, boom. I got ted NuGet stranglehold in the 836 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: eight track. There's too, I said. Waterson loves to get high. 837 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: I said, Oh, Slater's riding shot gun. He's always got 838 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: to do. We rolled up all of a sudden, I 839 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: hear action. Now as I hear action, I look up, 840 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: put it in drive, and as I pull out to 841 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: go do the fourth thing that Watterson lens he likes ladies. Yes, 842 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: I say the three things, and affirmation for the three 843 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: things that I do have. All right, all right, all right. 844 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: Those were three affirmations. And that actually was based off 845 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: of a live doors concert and Jim Morrison barks at 846 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: the crowd all right, all right, all right, all right, 847 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: And I had listened to it, heard that four months earlier, 848 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, my version of it three times 849 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: came out that night. So what would you tell that 850 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: version of yourself. Hey, you may think this is gonna 851 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: be a hobby where you gotta have a fun weekend 852 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: acting in Austin, Texas one summer in your life. Well 853 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: guess what, buddy, this is gonna be more than a hobby. 854 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a career and you're gonna end up 855 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: loving it. Wow. Matthew McConaughey, I'm sorry, real quick. 856 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: Did you improve your role in Oh my God, The 857 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 4: Leonardo the Wall Street? 858 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: Did you? 859 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 4: It was that improv all of that? 860 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: Well, not all of it, no, but but but quite 861 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: a bit was I mean, you know people ask about 862 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: the chest beating, All right, that's something I'll do before 863 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: scenes and I've done many times before. It's a relaxation technique, 864 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, get to get out of head. It's getting 865 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: the rhythm. Yeah, let's get the blood flowing. And it's 866 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: good because the whole crew is going. Was he doing what? 867 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: It's the weird and it's nice to put himself in 868 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: an underdog position so I can out of it, right. 869 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,919 Speaker 1: And then I was doing that before the scene. Yell action, 870 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: I'd stop. We do the scene. We do the scene 871 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: five times we got it moving on. Great, nailed it 872 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: moving on. All of a sudden, Leonardo raises his hand 873 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: and says, hey, Marty, hang on a second. He goes, 874 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: what's that thing you're doing before I told him? When 875 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: I just told you? And he goes, what if you 876 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: did that in the scene? Next take is what you 877 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: see on on film? 878 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 4: I love it, I love it. 879 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: Wow, it's Matthew McConaughey poems and prays. Good. 880 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: Great conversation with you, brother, Poems and prais is out 881 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 3: right now, man, Thank you for coming, brother. 882 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, sir. 883 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 5: Having and the Lost Bus is in theaters Friday. 884 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, it's the Breakfast Club every day a week ago. 885 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: Click your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You don't finish, 886 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: So y'all have done it.