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Speaker 1: We're gonna get Nathan A. Hackman on the Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: in running for attorney. Entreat great to be on. Thank

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Speaker 1: whole thing, And yeah, some filt that those people were exploited.

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Speaker 1: But near the end of the movie, her son offers

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Speaker 1: her or her home and she wouldn't go. She just

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Speaker 1: became attached to living in the van. It's like a

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Speaker 1: mental takeover of her brain. Just that she wanted to

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Speaker 1: continue that lifestyle, and that's what we're facing now because,

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Speaker 1: as I said, they've amped up demands. I don't want

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Speaker 1: a tent. I don't want to shelter. I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to hotel room. No, there's this this bias that

432
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Speaker 1: everybody wants luxury and comfort. But human beings are quite adaptable.

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Speaker 1: You know. We started out in the caves, and probably

434
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Speaker 1: all the people and the caves were happy at the time.

435
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Speaker 1: It's all they knew. But if she's happy with her

436
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Speaker 1: isolation and with her independence and not having to answer anybody,

437
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Speaker 1: I see that part is like, not our business, not

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Speaker 1: my business. It's that when they're in public and fouling

439
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Speaker 1: the environment around us and creating all kinds of dangers,

440
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Speaker 1: when some of them go crazy, that that's the issue.

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Speaker 1: But that's you know, it's like those movies where they

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Speaker 1: take the guy out of the wild and he has

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Speaker 1: trouble adapting to civilized life. It's the same thing with

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Speaker 1: people that live in these crazy encampments. You know, I

445
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Speaker 1: don't transition them, there is no everyone has these magical words.

446
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: It's like, well you you transition them, well, you you

447
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Speaker 1: treat them well, you know, there's nothing you can do

448
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Speaker 1: with them. Their brain broke. You don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's billions and billions of cells and connections

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Speaker 1: in your brain. There's a couple of dozen different compartments

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Speaker 1: in your brain. If one of them suffers some kind

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Speaker 1: of injury, or there's there's too many drugs, something organic,

453
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Speaker 1: something begins to rot inside. Too much trauma. Too much

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Speaker 1: trauma actually changes the chemical structure of your brain. It

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Speaker 1: changes the environment inside there, and often there's no going back.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do. There's no program for that,

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Speaker 1: there's no fixing it all right. From the category of

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Speaker 1: when animals attack, we have an odd one. Something about

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Speaker 1: this story just got my attention today. A woman in

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Speaker 1: the state of Washington. She lives in a town called Handsville.

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Speaker 1: She was walking alone in the woods recently when out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere, she got hit in the back of the head.

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Speaker 1: She says, it felt like being punched by someone that

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Speaker 1: was wearing rings. You know what attacked her? You never

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Speaker 1: would have guessed this an owl? An owl? Yeah? Do

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Speaker 1: you see the picture to the art beautiful? A white barrels,

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Speaker 1: a white boward owl. I could look at and because

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Speaker 1: they have those big eyes. She said. It was unprompted.

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Speaker 1: She was just walking along and she got home and

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Speaker 1: she noticed a bloody cut. So she had to go

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Speaker 1: to the doctor get a tetanus shot, just because the

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Speaker 1: owl could have bacteria and its claws. Oh, she got

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Speaker 1: clawed in the face, so she tried to avoid the

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Speaker 1: owl's territory. She was out walking a week later on

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Speaker 1: her own driveway, closer to a home, and the owl

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Speaker 1: go out and hit her again. It's got an in

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Speaker 1: for her. This time it left behind five or six

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Speaker 1: deeper cuts, and she was far bloodier. She couldn't figure

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Speaker 1: this out. Is a picture of the owl just sitting

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Speaker 1: there on the train, just staring. Does he not like her? Perfumer?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I got attacked by like a what

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Speaker 1: are they crows? One day. It just would it grabbed

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Speaker 1: onto my hair and it wouldn't let go. Really oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then I waved it off and I ran and

485
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: it came after me and jumped on me again. I

486
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Speaker 1: was like, what the hell. No, I remember this story

487
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: because the guy running the other way said to me,

488
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Speaker 1: what's going on there? So I don't know that's funny

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Speaker 1: they're saying it's mostly due to territory that they are

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Speaker 1: very protective of a territory. Maybe that crow had eggs

491
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Speaker 1: or something near by or something it was desperately trying

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Speaker 1: to protect and thought I was some sort of intruder

493
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Speaker 1: like that Bird's movie. It was a lot like the

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Speaker 1: Birds movie. Yeah, it did not cut me, but it

495
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Speaker 1: grabbed sort of towards my hair and sort of pulled

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Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I paid him to do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had an owl on the railing we have. We

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Speaker 1: have a like a little deck that leads out of

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Speaker 1: our bedroom and you opened the door you could sit

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Speaker 1: out on the deck and there was an owl one

501
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Speaker 1: morning staring at us through the window like some creepy stalker. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he was there for quite a while. He was a

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Speaker 1: big guy too. I think they're nocturnal too, don't They

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00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of sit there at night. It was really early

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00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: in the morning, it's just past sunrise. They are. They

506
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: are really one of the coolest creatures. Just to look

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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: at open my eyes and there's somebody looking back at me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this too. There was a woman who

509
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Speaker 1: was killed, Kathleen Peterson. Now I remember Scott Peterson and

510
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Speaker 1: Drew Peterson. Do you remember Michael Peterson. How many? How

511
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: many guys with the last named Peterson killed their wives?

512
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Speaker 1: Because there was a documentary called The Staircase about the

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Speaker 1: death of Kathleen Peterson. Her husband, Michael was convicted of

514
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Speaker 1: murdering her, but he suggested that she was mortally wounded

515
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Speaker 1: in an owl attack. I guess the joint didn't by it.

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00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: That's a true story. Well that was the true story,

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: is yes, he claimed that. But the joy that's a

518
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Speaker 1: documentary called The Staircase if you want to look it up.

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00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: And I did a double take because I'm like, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, it's not true Peterson, It's not Scott Peterson.

521
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Michael Peterson also killed his another another whack job Peterson.

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Speaker 1: Really weird. Wow. Tim Conway's here, Hey, now come on,

523
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: let's fly around here. Let's not mess around. Stocks are

524
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Speaker 1: off because the interest rate hike. That sucks for people

525
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: have stock. And also the power bolt and at one

526
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Speaker 1: point two billion dollars, man, that's gonna be um all mine.

527
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Speaker 1: If I want to take four hours of calls is

528
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Speaker 1: to help people spend the ride. Can you're the best?

529
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that idea. It's a great programming idea

530
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Speaker 1: Laguna Beach, and there they were raising the minimum wage

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Speaker 1: for a hotel workers the eighteen bucks an hour. That's

532
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Speaker 1: more than they pay board ops here. I want to

533
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: clean people's dirty sheets, though, And I don't know, I

534
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I think I would be pretty I think

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Speaker 1: I'll be pretty good at that. Right, I just put

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Speaker 1: out headphones and go at it. The hell you've never

537
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Speaker 1: seen a hotel? Were a mask? Dude? Yeah? Right? But

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00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: you know what when I stay at a hotel, I

539
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: almost worked there, you know. I make sure everything straightened out.

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00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I make sure the towel's droll in one place. The

541
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Speaker 1: garbage I take out, keeping take. I take the garbage out.

542
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I go. The garbage goes with me. You go out where.

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00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: Whenever I leave the hotel, I take a bag of

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Speaker 1: garbage with me. I don't want her to have to

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: or him have to do that, you know, So I

546
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: that before, trying to clean up on the way out

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: of the room. But I don't take the garbage. I

548
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: take the garbage with me. It's an obsession. But I

549
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: will say, in Vegas, you're pretty nuts closed doors. But

550
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 1: in Vegas, I if I win downstairs, the housekeeper wins

551
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: but if I lose, she goes down with the ship.

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00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yeah, four days and she gets I

553
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: like to leave. What do you leave ken on a

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00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: on a day? If you're at a hotel for two days,

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00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: you leave twenty bucks. Yeah, that's probably cool. Ten dollars

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00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, right, yeah, that's about it, right, ten

557
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: bucks a day. Yeah. I never leave anything. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. Why do you think that pen and

559
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: that piece and that piece of papers there? Housekeeping? Thank you?

560
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes a little bit your room was cleaned by I

561
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Speaker 1: don't know, take notes of phone call? Can you even note? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't leave a note. I write a note? Doubt

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Speaker 1: you do? I do? Yeah, dear housekeeping, thank you. That's

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00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: beautiful job. Give you well, they have a piece of paper,

565
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: they have a pad of paper and a pen in there.

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Speaker 1: For that reason, I thought, that's in case you think

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Speaker 1: of like ideas for your show. That's sailed, that's over.

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00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: There are no ideas. I tricked down ding dong five times. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 1: we've heard it, I ding dong five times? Then Nori, right,

570
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: then that's that's the night. Yeah, as Kristian's got the news.

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Speaker 1: KFI KOs Los Angeles, Orange County live everywhere in the

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