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Speaker 1: be a lifelong soccer fan to understand both the thrill
Speaker 1: and disappointment of a major tournament ending in penalty kicks
Speaker 1: and congrats to Italy topping England yesterday in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty euro Final and a gut wrenching shootout. And as
Speaker 1: exciting as they are, penalty kicks are kind of tough.
Speaker 1: They feel a little bit random, especially for England losing
Speaker 1: in Wembley Stadium in front of your home crowd and
Speaker 1: wanting to win so badly. And maybe you can blame
Speaker 1: the English manager. He subbed in two players at the
Speaker 1: end and had them take kicks. They didn't make him,
Speaker 1: they weren't really warmed up and that cost England the match. Still,
Speaker 1: you got the sense that the better team won here.
Speaker 1: I think England became the story. I think that I
Speaker 1: think the media wanted England to be the story and
Speaker 1: maybe we missed out on Italy being the story all along.
Speaker 1: But English fans left to drown their sorrow in the
Speaker 1: pubs around London again, but in Italy the party is
Speaker 1: just starting. I'm not a big soccer fan, I've said
Speaker 1: that before, but I do appreciate, you know, the enthusiasm
Speaker 1: when something really means that much to you. And this
Speaker 1: is something that I forfeited when I started to do
Speaker 1: this on a national basis. When I joined ESPN, I
Speaker 1: kind of gave up my subscription to being a Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Reds fan or a Bengals fan, because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be fair to every team that I covered, or at
Speaker 1: least give that perception that I'm being fair and not
Speaker 1: just biased to my teams. But watching the passion yesterday
Speaker 1: and what's its stake and what it means, you know,
Speaker 1: that's when I'm attracted to because I didn't think you had,
Speaker 1: you know, greatly skilled players yesterday, except of course for
Speaker 1: Harry Kane. But other than that, you know, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I love the passion, I love the energy, and I
Speaker 1: watched a lot of I watched most of it, probably
Speaker 1: from start to finish. I mean it just the tension
Speaker 1: that was there and what's attached to that, and that
Speaker 1: England somehow finds the banana peal and they did once again.
Speaker 1: And the worst thing that probably happened is they scored
Speaker 1: early and they played defensive. But I thought Italy was
Speaker 1: the better team. Coming from you know, an amateur I
Speaker 1: looking at this, but it was good. It was fun, entertaining,
Speaker 1: and you could ask ten people what you watch this
Speaker 1: weekend and probably get ten different things. I was watching
Speaker 1: the Scottish Open that went into a playoff, then watched
Speaker 1: Wimbledon back and forth with Djokovic, and then you had
Speaker 1: the Euros, then you had the NBA. That's pretty good day,
Speaker 1: Pretty good day. All right, we'll come up with the
Speaker 1: poll question here. We'll recap our vacations. And I of
Speaker 1: course went to Big Sky Country, went to Montana and
Speaker 1: did what manly men do. I went fly fishing there
Speaker 1: and it was great, a lot of fun, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: Uh we're big in Butte Montana. Yeah, yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: walk down the street and mute Montana. In fact, I
Speaker 1: was fishing with one of my brothers, my older brother,
Speaker 1: and I have a fish. I've caught a fish, and
Speaker 1: we're going down kind of rough waters and he's on
Speaker 1: the back of a raft and he somehow falls off
Speaker 1: and he hits his head on a rock. So I've
Speaker 1: still got a fish on and my brother is in
Speaker 1: the water. He's just hit his head and he's bleeding,
Speaker 1: to which I say to my guide, the fishing guide,
Speaker 1: well can I land this fish before you bring my
Speaker 1: brother into the boat, which my brother was fine with that.
Speaker 1: He respected that. So I brought in my whitefish and
Speaker 1: reeled it in and I looked at it, and then
Speaker 1: we decided to bring in my brother into the boat. Well,
Speaker 1: he needed seven staple in his head. So we go,
Speaker 1: we have to leave where we are to drive to
Speaker 1: downtown Butte Montana, and my brother has got blood, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of the back of his head. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's got a concussion. And we go in
Speaker 1: there and get him stitched up, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: his one request was could I get a pack of cigarettes?
Speaker 1: And I said, all right, yeah, we'll get you a
Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes. So he's smoking a heater outside of
Speaker 1: convenience store with you know, staples in his head. And
Speaker 1: now just part of the trip. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: what men do. You know, We put our lives on
Speaker 1: the line. Yeah. See how far into the trip was
Speaker 1: the accident, I don't know. It was all blending together.
Speaker 1: It was just one big sunrise, one big sun Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the days are forever out there, big sky country, rainbow trout,
Speaker 1: brown trout, graylings, whitefish, cutthroat, that's what we were fishing for.
Speaker 1: Got them all. Yeah, why didn't get the throat? They
Speaker 1: call it the grand slam, but there's five fish and
Speaker 1: I didn't get the cut throat, but I got everything else. Yes, Pa,
Speaker 1: the staple story sounds and the pictures you sent sound
Speaker 1: like the script for a river runs through it too.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is fantastic, and you're all set. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they come back. One of the brothers goes in the water.
Speaker 1: Do you stay with the fish or go help your
Speaker 1: brother's perfect. It was a mess from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: my brother and I fly fishing and where it opposite
Speaker 1: ends up a raft and our lines are getting tangled,
Speaker 1: like it's just it's it's a mess. It's a metaphor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a metaphor. And then the guide is there and
Speaker 1: he's working so hard. Max did a great job. And
Speaker 1: then my other brother was meanwhile with a guide and
Speaker 1: their relationship was along the lines of Leonardo DiCaprio and
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet and Titanic. Like this guide. You got the
Speaker 1: feeling he was holding my brother while he was fly
Speaker 1: fishing to help him along the way, and of course
Speaker 1: he caught all the fish and he was the teacher's pet. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: my brother and I are, you know, fighting for our
Speaker 1: lives on the Big Hole River. Yeah, mclan, I'm just
Speaker 1: some internet research. Are you sure it's not pronounced but Montana? Okay,
Speaker 1: that joke had to be said. We're all think you're
Speaker 1: better than that. Not really, No, you're not. Yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: these rafts that they have basic first aid kits as
Speaker 1: far as the bleeding, what was done for him before,
Speaker 1: because obviously getting the fish was more important to you
Speaker 1: than the brother. Do you really care? I do. Actually
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, but you're never gonna be on a raft. No,
Speaker 1: but medical attention with delayed so you can get that fishing.
Speaker 1: And they're surprised me. No, they had they had some
Speaker 1: kind of first aid there. But you know, my guide said, hey,
Speaker 1: you get you need stitches, to which my brother said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. And you've got blood coming down the back
Speaker 1: of his neck. Yeah, I said, no, you you probably
Speaker 1: you probably need to go. But I was fishing. I
Speaker 1: mean it was great, like I finally started reeling in fishing.
Speaker 1: Our brother has to fall out of the damn raft? Ye?
Speaker 1: Your brother does he have a history of doing this?
Speaker 1: You know how like there's always like one family member
Speaker 1: that it's like, oh great, of course, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so and so's got to go to the hospital. Go okay,
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, yeah, I'm a club. So were you
Speaker 1: aware that Montana was in the news last Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: When did you become there? Was you want to share
Speaker 1: the news? Well, there was a tragedy where, you know,
Speaker 1: a bear went into a campground and and killed somebody.
Speaker 1: Was that on your mind when you're out there on
Speaker 1: the river? No, but we did talk to people who
Speaker 1: they know the area up there, and that's I just curious.
Speaker 1: We didn't see any bears where we were. But the
Speaker 1: other part was Yellowstone was shooting about an hour away
Speaker 1: from us, and I mean I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: in there and see Kevin Costa and say hello, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I mean you want to you? I mean I thought
Speaker 1: about it, but I thought, you know what, I'm here,
Speaker 1: it's vacation. I'm fishing, fly fishing and doing manly things,
Speaker 1: and that I didn't want to disrupt from our camp there. Yes, see,
Speaker 1: at any point that you saw your brother's head leaking
Speaker 1: blood all over the place, did you think of this
Speaker 1: might attract some bears? Then? Not? Good? Well, I thought
Speaker 1: if he kept bleeding into the water, you might attract
Speaker 1: more fish. So I thought, if we left him in
Speaker 1: there for a little while, you know, maybe we get hey,
Speaker 1: what's the rush? So you did he know? Okay, what
Speaker 1: what are you using there? Flying fishing? Now? What type
Speaker 1: of negative? Yeah? Yeah, it's my brother's blood. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's really committed. He's committed to the fishing here. Yes,
Speaker 1: the club. You know, I'm freaked out by bears and
Speaker 1: fishing and hooks and all this. Yeah, but this is
Speaker 1: like real, this is manly. Yes, it is okay, But
Speaker 1: here's the worst part. Now you thought my brother falling
Speaker 1: over and banging his head and we have take him
Speaker 1: to the emergency room. I actually hooked myself in the face.
Speaker 1: So when you're fly fishing and there's wind in Montana,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm casting and in the wind,
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Brad Pitt, you're thinking the river run through,
Speaker 1: and the wind blows this fly and it goes right
Speaker 1: into my cheek. Now, I did the manly thing. I
Speaker 1: just I just pulled it out, yeah, and started bleeding.
Speaker 1: It was the barb. Well they didn't have barbs. They
Speaker 1: didn't have Yeah, because in in the in Montana. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect the fish show. Everything was catching release.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like your normal hook, as my guide said,
Speaker 1: if that was a normal hook, we'd have a big problem.
Speaker 1: But it's still it's enough to catch a fish on.
Speaker 1: So it went right into my cheek and I wanted
Speaker 1: to play it up a little bit more. But you know,
Speaker 1: I was hoping that it could have been like a
Speaker 1: little bloodier, you know, just something that shows that you know,
Speaker 1: this is this a contact sport. It was almost a
Speaker 1: tragedy for him. And then the guys and the guide
Speaker 1: said you better put on your polaroids because you don't
Speaker 1: want to lose an eye. And then so I had
Speaker 1: to put on my sunglasses there. So yep, I had
Speaker 1: to be reminded of your safety equipment. Yes I did.
Speaker 1: Oh but I fell down in the river. You know,
Speaker 1: you go waiting. They make it look nice. You know,
Speaker 1: there's professionals. The guy, the guy John Barrett, he's one
Speaker 1: of the great fishermen that you'll find in the world
Speaker 1: fly fishermen. And I'm out there and I you know,
Speaker 1: the these rocks were like, uh, if you put snot
Speaker 1: on a bowling ball and you tried to walk on it.
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. And I've went down twice
Speaker 1: into the water. But you know, that's just that's part
Speaker 1: of the risk and the reward of fly fishing in Montana.
Speaker 1: You guys are lucky. I'm still alive because it was touching.
Speaker 1: Go you gotta pull question for me, like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard the top of that. Um, okay, we're discussing
Speaker 1: the biggest event of the weekend. Is there one that
Speaker 1: stands out? We have Italy beating England, Argentina beating Brazil
Speaker 1: in the Copa, Djokovic winning Wimbledon for his twentieth major
Speaker 1: to tie the all time record, Poyer beating McGregor, box
Speaker 1: narrowing the finals to two one, and there was on
Speaker 1: Twitter some suggestion of al Twove's walk off against the Yankees.
Speaker 1: That's a regular season game, so it's not the same,
Speaker 1: but it's ar a one a story or isn't they
Speaker 1: all about? I would say Italy beating England because just
Speaker 1: the number of you know, Italians who are here in
Speaker 1: the United States. If I'm just looking for the United States,
Speaker 1: I think watching something that had that much tension and
Speaker 1: you came down to penalty kicks, Argentina beating Brazil. All right,
Speaker 1: MESSI won a trophy. Big deal. Djokovic is a big
Speaker 1: deal from the standpoint of where he stands all time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Americans really care since there's
Speaker 1: no American that we've really followed in tennis for a while.
Speaker 1: McGregor breaking his leg. He did it to himself. It's
Speaker 1: not like or he did it to him Um the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know, because it's the NBA in Janis
Speaker 1: was wonderful. Al Tuve hitting a walk off home run.
Speaker 1: Plus I don't get this, and I'm gonna ask Harold
Speaker 1: Reynolds this. It feels like the Astros think they're victims here.
Speaker 1: You know. They got to stop this, like you created
Speaker 1: this now all of a sudden, Altuve, Hey, you can
Speaker 1: rip my jersey off to show that I don't have
Speaker 1: a wire on. Remember you were shy? What what was it?
Speaker 1: Remember you didn't want to know? Don't don't tear this off.
Speaker 1: I'm shy. You're not shy now. But I mean, gang congrats.
Speaker 1: And for every time the Astros do something, well like
Speaker 1: why didn't you do this a couple of years ago?
Speaker 1: Like why did you you know, have to cheat, So
Speaker 1: don't play the victim. Now, nobody wants to go to
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. None of the Astros wanted to go,
Speaker 1: and you got, hey, my wife's pregnant. Okay, I got
Speaker 1: a nerve, a nagging injury, okay. Feels like the Astros
Speaker 1: are saying the Major League Baseball somehow, some way, they're
Speaker 1: victims here and they just don't want to get booed. Okay,
Speaker 1: And maybe Major League Baseball doesn't want that either, But yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of bothered me. I'm two Bays, a wonderful player.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he put his Hall of Fame career
Speaker 1: in jeopardy, you know, by what happened. Maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: it's only him in Correa, but I mean they got
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that were still left over from
Speaker 1: the World Series team. But stop playing the victim here.
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Speaker 1: Wilbon from pardon the interruption, covering the NBA joining us
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee. Hey, hall of famer, how are you today?
Speaker 1: First of all, he does not insist, so you don't
Speaker 1: fancy you, said, Wilbon, that's what That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: But he's not like that, So that's what under the bus.
Speaker 1: Just now, Oh my goodness. No, don't insist upon that.
Speaker 1: I'm close to Milwaukee, Dan, I'm eighty eight miles away
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee in Chicago. Fritzie, I gave me two sons time.
Speaker 1: He said, how does Wilbon want to be introduced? And
Speaker 1: where's he joining us from? I was just talking about
Speaker 1: my vacation where I went to Montana fly fishing. You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta like an adventure vacation you've ever taken? No,
Speaker 1: Fritzie just asked me, Dad, He said, what dangerous thing
Speaker 1: have you done? Like? Nothing ever? I mean, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been in Montana, but i've not I've not.
Speaker 1: And if I went there today, Dan, I would go
Speaker 1: with golf clubs trying to find that same course that
Speaker 1: those guys played, you know last week. But no, there's
Speaker 1: no danger. I've never been fly fishing. I went fishing
Speaker 1: once when I was eleven years old with my uncle
Speaker 1: Bill in Chicago and vowed never to go fishing again.
Speaker 1: And I've kept that. Well, you're not an outdoorsman like me.
Speaker 1: You're not a man. Okay, I'll take your word for that. Um.
Speaker 1: What golf is somehow less less, you know, less than fishing? Yes?
Speaker 1: How many times are you? Okay, I've known you a
Speaker 1: long time, we've known you a long time. I have
Speaker 1: never heard you tell fly fishing stories We've never had.
Speaker 1: We've never done that once every twenty years, like oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The last time I went fly fishing was in British
Speaker 1: Columbia in nineteen eighty nine. What made you do it
Speaker 1: this time? Uh? I had to man up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was getting a little soft. You know. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how you you writers used to call us,
Speaker 1: you know, talking hair dues. We still do. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: though I would love to call you a talking hair dude,
Speaker 1: you just you don't have any hair, that's right. Yes,
Speaker 1: Actually I fall outside that categorization. Um, Before I get
Speaker 1: to the bucks and the suns, the United States lost
Speaker 1: in Nigeria. Yeah, okay, should we care about this as
Speaker 1: we head into the Olympics with this team and now
Speaker 1: I know there's some guys still playing in the finals,
Speaker 1: but and it's and it's a friendly, but the United
Speaker 1: States lost to Nigeria in basketball. I was sitting I
Speaker 1: was here in Chicago two nights ago when that game
Speaker 1: was going on, and I was at the w NBA game,
Speaker 1: um mystics and the sky. I wanted to go and
Speaker 1: see my friend Canvas Parker play. And I'm with a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who have been sports writers, I think,
Speaker 1: all in TV now, all of whom you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Jaya Dondey, David Aldrich, Mark Spears, if any goodwill, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole the Crue, Sean Powell. And we're sitting there
Speaker 1: and we're monitoring this score, right, we're monitoring that game.
Speaker 1: We're at a game, and we're going Each guy turns
Speaker 1: to the other and goes, oh my god, we're losing
Speaker 1: the Nigeria with you know, seven minutes left, with four
Speaker 1: minutes left, with thirty seconds left. And then they came
Speaker 1: the question from each one of us to the other,
Speaker 1: was how big a deal is this, like, should we
Speaker 1: care about this? Is it a friendly? Is that an exhibition?
Speaker 1: Is it a warm up? Is a practice? Is Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant really playing? And so, even as you ticked off
Speaker 1: the answers, kind of yes, yes, yes, I think it's
Speaker 1: important because we never even remember remember how crazy the
Speaker 1: reporting of the scrimmage loss. The Dream Team lost, like
Speaker 1: Chris Webber and Grant Hill and Bobby Hurley and as
Speaker 1: I don't even know who I was on that team,
Speaker 1: but those guys were the headliners, and we cared about it.
Speaker 1: And those guys Jordan Barkley, Magic Birt, they wanted us
Speaker 1: to care because they cared. They cared enough to threaten
Speaker 1: the lives of those college players right and said you
Speaker 1: will be shut out summarily tomorrow, and which they essentially did.
Speaker 1: They cared and they wanted us to care. So using
Speaker 1: that criteria, Dan, we got what's the what's the care scale?
Speaker 1: Like is it a seven? Is it's not a nine?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go better than five, though, what about you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm up there with it. But I think it's really
Speaker 1: a testament to the rest of the world that how
Speaker 1: important basketball is. And you can go back to the
Speaker 1: Dream Team and what the Dream Team birthed around the world.
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen that. I think you've seen
Speaker 1: that with the you know, players from Europe who come over,
Speaker 1: you know, the Greek Freak, I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what that impact had on him, or Luca don Chickum,
Speaker 1: you know, the Joker, like these guys who you know,
Speaker 1: probably were young if they were even born, and watching
Speaker 1: that Dream Team and what that Dream Team meant, getting videos,
Speaker 1: getting VHS tapes in you know, these other countries. I
Speaker 1: mean that the importance of that is not lost on me.
Speaker 1: So as much as I'd like to say the United
Speaker 1: States went through the motions, give credit to Nigeria that
Speaker 1: this really meant something to them. And Dan, I've been
Speaker 1: on this crusade that the All Star Game, which has
Speaker 1: become a complete and utter waste of time, the NBA
Speaker 1: All Star Game, waste of time. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see people choosing upsides and go with shirts and skins.
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about that. The NBA, for
Speaker 1: some reason, is studiously avoiding having Us versus the World.
Speaker 1: If we had that game even the last five years, okay,
Speaker 1: just thinking we had the game this coming All Star Game. Right,
Speaker 1: look a look at the Look at the bigs. You've
Speaker 1: got just the front line you mentioned Janni's of course,
Speaker 1: Mbi Joker, the MVP of the league. If you just
Speaker 1: had the three of them, and you've got don Jet
Speaker 1: you you've already mentioned, and you've got Jamal Murray. Okay?
Speaker 1: Is that a starting five you'd like to see play
Speaker 1: against an All Star team of US pedal courses? And
Speaker 1: I don't know if the league is embarrassed that it
Speaker 1: might that the US team even though the NBA all
Speaker 1: those guys belong to that fraternity. Why won't they do it?
Speaker 1: Why won't they do something that you could actually sink
Speaker 1: your teeth into All Star week as opposed to the
Speaker 1: junk that it is junk. It's just it's an exhibition
Speaker 1: of dunking. Were already got a dunk contest. Let's see
Speaker 1: the best in the world, because you know there's pride,
Speaker 1: they'd want to do it. If they you put those
Speaker 1: those ten guys out there, those twenty four guys out there,
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to win, and the All Star weekend
Speaker 1: becomes something valuable instead of the junk that the game.
Speaker 1: The game is junk. But you look at the testament
Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. I am one hundred
Speaker 1: percent with you on that. And look at again, I
Speaker 1: just named five guys off top of my head. Look
Speaker 1: at all the players that you have coming along, the
Speaker 1: young Canadian players in addition to Jamal Murray, the young
Speaker 1: African players. Going back to your question about Nigeria, I
Speaker 1: think this is a significant development and I'd like to
Speaker 1: see it explored more by the NBA. He's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. Michael Wilbon, ESPN's Pardon the Interruption co host,
Speaker 1: of course, part of ESPN ABC's NBA coverage. Jannis is
Speaker 1: always interesting and it's not like he's polarizing. I think
Speaker 1: people want to make his style polarizing or his star
Speaker 1: status polarizing. And I always wondered about this. When I
Speaker 1: watched Wilt Chamberlain play, I never said, gush, I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's not taking jumpers. When I watched Shack,
Speaker 1: I never said, gush, he's not taking jumpers. When I
Speaker 1: watched Kareem, I never said, boy, he doesn't do anything
Speaker 1: other than a sky hook. Why is it that we
Speaker 1: can't just like the Greek freak can be dominating. I
Speaker 1: don't need him to shoot a three to keep the
Speaker 1: defense honest. You know, Ben Simmons has to learn to
Speaker 1: shoot because he's on the perimeter and he handles the ball.
Speaker 1: I want the Greek freak down dominating like I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that, Mike every possession, Dan, you know this means
Speaker 1: we're old that first of all, let's start with that.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's declare you and I are as. We're
Speaker 1: philosophically aligned completely, So okay here, I don't want him
Speaker 1: shooting threes. I do want him to develop a fourteen
Speaker 1: to sixteen foot shot so the wall they put up,
Speaker 1: he can do something else other than maybe pick up
Speaker 1: two or three offensive files a game trying to crash
Speaker 1: through it. So that's as far as I go. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: I am entirely with you. His team's shortcomings to this
Speaker 1: point are not his fault at all. When you go
Speaker 1: forty two and thirteen a couple of nights, don't tell
Speaker 1: me what more that guy needs to do. Somebody else
Speaker 1: needs to do more. And I think it's polarizing, Dan,
Speaker 1: because we've got this thing, which is fairly attractive otherwise,
Speaker 1: positionless basketball. I do applaud that and the versatility it
Speaker 1: brings to the game for others. But my god, this
Speaker 1: guy is a great player. He's a legitimate two time MVP.
Speaker 1: The shortcoming seemed to belong more to his coach and
Speaker 1: his teammates. And I don't need to see him do anymore.
Speaker 1: I need to see him do what he did last night.
Speaker 1: In fact, when he wanders out there and shoots the three,
Speaker 1: he hurts his team. His team is less, is less.
Speaker 1: And this is just dumb, the fact that the Bucks
Speaker 1: may come out Wednesday night and go out and hoist
Speaker 1: threes and be down by eighteen, because this is what
Speaker 1: they've done the whole postseason. They play a specific way.
Speaker 1: You know, it works, It works to the tune of
Speaker 1: championship level play. And it's just Kendrick Perkins. You could say,
Speaker 1: Kendrick my man. Kendrick was a bit strong when he
Speaker 1: said the dumbest team every in the finals. But but Dan,
Speaker 1: they do so they do things. You just can't understand
Speaker 1: what they're doing because they've proven they can win this way,
Speaker 1: kicking your butt in the paint with that guy leading
Speaker 1: the way. Oh but it's not good enough even for them.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't get it,
Speaker 1: and I think it hurts some Well, look, I Chris
Speaker 1: Middleton and Drue Holiday are you know, they're not guys
Speaker 1: that are you're going to build around, but they need
Speaker 1: to be complimentary figures that I just want Yannis down low.
Speaker 1: I don't want him handling the ball bringing it up
Speaker 1: the floor because you can set up that wall that
Speaker 1: Miami did last year in the playoffs. If I have
Speaker 1: him down low, Okay, now what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: And if Middleton and Holiday hit shots, yes, that to
Speaker 1: me makes them formidable. If everybody stands around for Yannis
Speaker 1: to dribble down and then try to break through, then
Speaker 1: then you're not getting good basketball. If I put him
Speaker 1: down low, Adan's got a guard him, you put him
Speaker 1: in foul trouble. And then I got Middleton and Holiday
Speaker 1: who were going to be single covered in maybe at times,
Speaker 1: you know, left alone. That to me would be you know,
Speaker 1: my approach to this for the Milwaukee Bucks, And that
Speaker 1: is the approach I sat with both both Games and Phoenix.
Speaker 1: It's that between Isaiah Thomas and Avery Johnson. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with guys who now would be called by
Speaker 1: the entire basketball world younger than them, old guys. They're
Speaker 1: only guys who are you know, great and played with
Speaker 1: intellect and won championships. And they said exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for. I'm waiting for them knowing basketball
Speaker 1: the way they do, to say no, it's okay to
Speaker 1: do this. And they're both and they coached, and they're going,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what what is this? Why isn't he here?
Speaker 1: And he's a willing passer, right, and he's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: He's a legitimate tough guy who doesn't shy away, and so, okay,
Speaker 1: the free throws could be your problem. And maybe that's
Speaker 1: a problem later in the you know, in the game,
Speaker 1: not last night, but Dan, that's that's the Milwaukee Bucks conundrum.
Speaker 1: How are they gonna do? What are they gonna do
Speaker 1: Wednesday night? And what are they gonna do in what
Speaker 1: many presumed to be a game five Saturday back in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I don't understand is as much as
Speaker 1: I love watching Devin Booker, Devin Booker can disappear on you.
Speaker 1: And you know, for a guy who has that mamba mentality,
Speaker 1: and Kobe was there to mentor him, I just don't
Speaker 1: see that as much. And you know, maybe I'm asking
Speaker 1: too much, but we've seen a guy scored seventy in
Speaker 1: a game. I just I expect him to be maybe
Speaker 1: more consistent in in that just pressuring the defense there
Speaker 1: and there are times he just sort of floats and
Speaker 1: gives you a three for fifteen night. I think that
Speaker 1: he hasn't. This is his first time on any stage,
Speaker 1: his first time, I remember, this is first time in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I think he's learning still the difference
Speaker 1: between that level of pressure and becoming that consistent. He
Speaker 1: had a bad game last night, although I think what
Speaker 1: happens is I mean every I mean, as great as
Speaker 1: they are, the level of player above him and more experience,
Speaker 1: they had bad games too, you know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure Lebron has had a bad game or two in
Speaker 1: a series. I think I want Booker to have out
Speaker 1: of a six game series, I want him to have
Speaker 1: three great games. I think he's done that. I think
Speaker 1: he's done that now. Last night he had a bad game.
Speaker 1: And now here's where we got to see the star
Speaker 1: bounces back. You know, when Kobe told him famously as
Speaker 1: he wears the tattoo, to be legendary. This is when
Speaker 1: you create your legend. This is when you build it. Now,
Speaker 1: he did it against the Lakers, he did it against Denver.
Speaker 1: He even did it against the Clippers multiple games where
Speaker 1: he was great. Now, he did it in games one
Speaker 1: until he didn't do it in game three. Obviously, if
Speaker 1: if Devin Booker is going to be that guy that
Speaker 1: you are talking about, and I believe he can be,
Speaker 1: then he needs to do that in game four and
Speaker 1: maybe five or four and six. He's got to do
Speaker 1: that two more times to get to be the best
Speaker 1: player on the floor. Chris Paul is the most important
Speaker 1: player on the floor. We're in his jersey, that jersey,
Speaker 1: but he's got to do it to get them to
Speaker 1: hoist that trophy. And then he's sort of fulfilling what
Speaker 1: Kobe thought he could be the Lakers in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Lebron's a great recruiter, but I don't know how much
Speaker 1: maneuverability they have to be able to recruit. If if
Speaker 1: you're the Lakers, what would you be What would be
Speaker 1: priority number one? Well, you gotta figure out and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can figure this out, but the
Speaker 1: priority would be how is Anthony Davis gonna consistently contribute.
Speaker 1: And look, I love Anthony Davis, right, I mean his game,
Speaker 1: who he is, I'm predisposed he's a Chicago boy like
Speaker 1: I am. I love Anthony Davis. But when people say
Speaker 1: top five player, I'm like, I'm not I'm not going
Speaker 1: there because I can name five I'm gonna take ahead
Speaker 1: of him. Now he's in that next group and there's
Speaker 1: no sin in that. My god, you could be a
Speaker 1: GE's been a championship player already. But you gotta figure
Speaker 1: out what you're gonna get from him and how frequently?
Speaker 1: Because because I don't believe Dan and I don't know
Speaker 1: what you believe about this. I don't believe these injuries
Speaker 1: and people missing all this time. I don't believe these
Speaker 1: are one offs. I believe this is where the league is.
Speaker 1: I believe they ought to go to a sixty five
Speaker 1: game schedule, which they're not gonna do. How reliable can
Speaker 1: he be going forward with Lebron And he's got to
Speaker 1: get in shape. Mike agree, I agree, So you gotta
Speaker 1: figure you gotta address that, and if you come up
Speaker 1: with an answer, you think it's satisfactory. If you're the
Speaker 1: Laker's brass and you know you're a Lebron. Okay, but
Speaker 1: if that's not your answer, then what do you do?
Speaker 1: Who's your second guy? You know there's all this buzz
Speaker 1: out there now you know I'm around you know when
Speaker 1: you're an NBA circles? My god, the rumors about the
Speaker 1: NBA trades, acquisitions, free agency are the juiciest ones. Most
Speaker 1: of them make no sense. But the Lakers have so
Speaker 1: little flexibility that they can't just go and get somebody.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to either make a deal, be very creative,
Speaker 1: get Anthony Davis. Can Anthony Davis play seventy two games
Speaker 1: next year and be Anthony Davis? Well, that hasn't happened
Speaker 1: like all that often. So I think determining that to
Speaker 1: the degree that you can is the place that the
Speaker 1: Lakers have to start. Would you trade Anthony Davis for
Speaker 1: Jamian Lolly? I knew that was gonna come on. That's
Speaker 1: one of those I was talking about. Okay, my first
Speaker 1: inclination is yes. But where do you get then? Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's say you got Damon Lebron out there. Do
Speaker 1: you have size? You have? I mean, I mean wings
Speaker 1: who are six eight and sixty nine seemed to be
Speaker 1: growing on trees. And again all we gotta do because
Speaker 1: go back and watch Nigeria beat the you know, beat
Speaker 1: the US, and that that that friendly. So where do
Speaker 1: you get that? Like where? I mean, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't have that otherwise. And it seems to me that dynamic,
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron is that. But you need a couple.
Speaker 1: You can't just go say, well, Paul George would be
Speaker 1: a great fit as a two and a half or three.
Speaker 1: Let's get him and he can. You can't then don't
Speaker 1: have the money. They don't. I'm told, I was told
Speaker 1: all week stop, they don't. They can't do what you're
Speaker 1: maybe suggesting, what about Porzingiso For Ben Simmons, well, what
Speaker 1: is Lebron at this point? We know Lebron has been
Speaker 1: patient enough? God the years that Lebron led teams to
Speaker 1: the finals that didn't have it anywhere near what you're
Speaker 1: talking about suggests, Okay, Lebron is gonna work with these
Speaker 1: guys at this stage? Is he gonna be patient enough?
Speaker 1: Porzingis plays like forty nine, he plays fewer games. And
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, well, hell but if you said Philly and Dallas,
Speaker 1: now I don't like it just because Lucas always got
Speaker 1: the ball, and like, what's the complimentary player who can
Speaker 1: play with Luca Dame? Not complimentary but a shoot Like, seriously,
Speaker 1: a guy who can just who can shoot it out?
Speaker 1: The Dame's unfair. Okay, So next level guy, um, you
Speaker 1: know a top twenty player, Okay, CJ McCollum. Well, well now,
Speaker 1: and see we know CJ doesn't have to have the
Speaker 1: ball because we've seen Dame have the ball and that
Speaker 1: worked or at least a degree the conference final. Here's
Speaker 1: gonna happen for them, though, Dan real quickly. Luca's got
Speaker 1: to be more mature. Luca right now is like he's
Speaker 1: like glorified, not glorified. He's Rashid Wallace in terms of impact.
Speaker 1: Obviously he has the ball and he has more diverse
Speaker 1: skills and all that, but he's out of control. He
Speaker 1: is completely immature on the floor. He undermined his own
Speaker 1: effort in that series they should have won because he's
Speaker 1: screaming at the other bench because he's up thirty to nine.
Speaker 1: He is unbelievably immature and they gotta fix that. Andy
Speaker 1: and Rick Carlisle lead. People don't leave when a player
Speaker 1: is great as Luca don Yeah, but they left, so something,
Speaker 1: something else has to be done there. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's just player acquisition, but I'm I'm kind of with
Speaker 1: you there on who he needs. Hey, great to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Congrats on the Hall of Fame. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Todd never introduced me that way ever Again, Sir Michael
Speaker 1: Wilbon joining us here. Have you been nighted yet? If
Speaker 1: I can be like certain Nick, I'll be nighted. Hey,
Speaker 1: can't you come to a game? Can't you bring the
Speaker 1: whole party to a game like old times? Come on
Speaker 1: turning into Tony being in the attic for you know,
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. It was fun having
Speaker 1: you a game. You know what, Mike, when the Bulls
Speaker 1: are back, I'm bringing the guys to Chicago. How's that?
Speaker 1: There's your guy. There's your guy for Luca Zach Levine.
Speaker 1: Although I don't want to lose Zach from what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do in Chicago, so I strike that. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again, buddy. That's Michael Wilbon,
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Speaker 1: that's nice, McLevin. Didn't we settle on a poll question? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put the story of the weekend up for the
Speaker 1: poll question. What was it? And it's Italy beating England
Speaker 1: in the euro runs away with it. Actually the Joker
Speaker 1: was second, but then everyone everything's pretty much tied for
Speaker 1: a second. Yeah. I watched a lot of Wimbledon and
Speaker 1: one thing that always stands out with Djokovic, and I
Speaker 1: know this is up for debate of who's the greatest
Speaker 1: tennis player of all time male tennis player of all time,
Speaker 1: and Djokovic, I think head to head with Nadal and
Speaker 1: Federer may stand out a little bit more. He never
Speaker 1: looks like he's sweating. There's just something about Djokovic that
Speaker 1: you just go he seems now he's not always in control.
Speaker 1: We've seen you know, moments of anger there with him,
Speaker 1: but when he's playing and playing at a high level,
Speaker 1: it's it's like a comfortable you know, when you're driving
Speaker 1: in a car and somebody says, how fast are you going,
Speaker 1: and you're going, you know, we're going seventy five. Really
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that, Like he looks like he's going
Speaker 1: fifty five, but he's going seventy five. But he looks
Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. And what he did yesterday, what he's
Speaker 1: done this year with you know, three Grand Slam wins
Speaker 1: in a calendar year, pretty amazing stuff. But I go
Speaker 1: back to Rod Labor who to me what he did,
Speaker 1: when he did it, how he did it, and it's
Speaker 1: a different game. But the rackets. McEnroe was special, but
Speaker 1: only for a couple of years. Borg was special at Wimbledon.
Speaker 1: Pete Sampras to me was Federer before Federer. He just
Speaker 1: had that athleticism, but that grace about him, catlike grace, aggression.
Speaker 1: You know, Nadal is fun to watch, but Nadal always
Speaker 1: looks like he's working really hard every time that he plays.
Speaker 1: But Djokovic, that was impressive. But I still think that
Speaker 1: Italy beating England was probably the top story in the
Speaker 1: United States. Yeah, m a club side poll question. I
Speaker 1: have a overrated, underrated, or properly rated question for three athletes,
Speaker 1: starting with Djokovic. Is he overrated, underrated or properly rated?
Speaker 1: Because we were talking about how it feels weird to
Speaker 1: call him the greatest of all time? Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: calling him that, Okay, I mean, he's not done yet,
Speaker 1: but the resume is really impressive. It feels like at
Speaker 1: times he's underrated. Kind of forget about him because Nadal
Speaker 1: just his style, his look, Federer has a certain you know,
Speaker 1: Grace Kelly feel to him. Larry just seems elegant when
Speaker 1: he's out there. Djokovic is the guy who used to
Speaker 1: be you know, he'd do those impressions like he was
Speaker 1: a goofball a little bit. And I think now people
Speaker 1: waking up to the realization that maybe is the most
Speaker 1: dominating tennis player and to do it with two other
Speaker 1: guys who have won twenty Grand Slam events, Like that's
Speaker 1: what's amazing that if you win twenty like Lennox Lewis
Speaker 1: was a wonderful heavyweight, but he didn't fight anybody. Larry
Speaker 1: Holmes wonderful heavyweight. He didn't really fight anybody. It's when
Speaker 1: you know you had Hearns and Hagler, you had you know,
Speaker 1: Roberto Durant like they were sugar Ray Leonard, like they're
Speaker 1: fighting each other and you're winning. You know, that's what's impressive.
Speaker 1: You know, Ali had Frazier, Ali had Foreman. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just need to have that rival and to you know,
Speaker 1: to do this with two other guys who were two
Speaker 1: of the top what seven, six, seven or eight players
Speaker 1: of all time, So he got three in the top
Speaker 1: six of all time, maybe three in the top five.
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn impressive. When you're winning, you gotta beat
Speaker 1: somebody great to win that title. Yeah, I'm the club
Speaker 1: a couple of overrated, underrated properly rated Yannis after this
Speaker 1: last two game explosion, Are we now underrating Yannis? You
Speaker 1: still hear a lot of the negatives. It seems to be,
Speaker 1: you know, he's hitting his free throws. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: what people are not you know, bringing into account is
Speaker 1: a week ago we wondered if he would be able
Speaker 1: to play again at all. Remember, we had we had
Speaker 1: players who came on. Channing Fry came on and said
Speaker 1: I had that same injury and I was done for
Speaker 1: whatever six weeks. He's putting up forty back to back.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's talking about the injury and that guys
Speaker 1: who've had that injury high per extended knee weren't able
Speaker 1: to play that. They thought, well, they're going to shut
Speaker 1: him down. He's not gonna be able to play. Factor
Speaker 1: that in. I think he's underrated At times. I think
Speaker 1: we get caught up. He doesn't make free throws, which
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. And for some reason he feels the
Speaker 1: need to prove that he can shoot threes, but he
Speaker 1: can't shoot threes. I would just let him dominate down low,
Speaker 1: just say, come deal with us, and then I got perimeter. Guys,
Speaker 1: Lopez can shoot the three. You could have Chris Middleton,
Speaker 1: you could have Holiday. That would be my approach. But
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