WEBVTT - 07/12/21 DPS Hour 1 Michael Wilbon

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to recap as well. Seton Paulie, Fritzie, mcloviners

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<v Speaker 1>truly here on the Dan Patrick Show. Reggie Miller stops

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<v Speaker 1>be a lifelong soccer fan to understand both the thrill

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<v Speaker 1>and disappointment of a major tournament ending in penalty kicks

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<v Speaker 1>and congrats to Italy topping England yesterday in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty euro Final and a gut wrenching shootout. And as

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<v Speaker 1>exciting as they are, penalty kicks are kind of tough.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel a little bit random, especially for England losing

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<v Speaker 1>in Wembley Stadium in front of your home crowd and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to win so badly. And maybe you can blame

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<v Speaker 1>the English manager. He subbed in two players at the

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<v Speaker 1>end and had them take kicks. They didn't make him,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't really warmed up and that cost England the match. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>you got the sense that the better team won here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think England became the story. I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think the media wanted England to be the story and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we missed out on Italy being the story all along.

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<v Speaker 1>But English fans left to drown their sorrow in the

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<v Speaker 1>pubs around London again, but in Italy the party is

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<v Speaker 1>just starting. I'm not a big soccer fan, I've said

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<v Speaker 1>that before, but I do appreciate, you know, the enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 1>when something really means that much to you. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I forfeited when I started to do

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<v Speaker 1>this on a national basis. When I joined ESPN, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gave up my subscription to being a Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Reds fan or a Bengals fan, because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair to every team that I covered, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least give that perception that I'm being fair and not

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<v Speaker 1>just biased to my teams. But watching the passion yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and what's its stake and what it means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I'm attracted to because I didn't think you had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, greatly skilled players yesterday, except of course for

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Kane. But other than that, you know, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the passion, I love the energy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of I watched most of it, probably

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<v Speaker 1>from start to finish. I mean it just the tension

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<v Speaker 1>that was there and what's attached to that, and that

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<v Speaker 1>England somehow finds the banana peal and they did once again.

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<v Speaker 1>And the worst thing that probably happened is they scored

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<v Speaker 1>early and they played defensive. But I thought Italy was

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<v Speaker 1>the better team. Coming from you know, an amateur I

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this, but it was good. It was fun, entertaining,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could ask ten people what you watch this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and probably get ten different things. I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>the Scottish Open that went into a playoff, then watched

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<v Speaker 1>Wimbledon back and forth with Djokovic, and then you had

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<v Speaker 1>the Euros, then you had the NBA. That's pretty good day,

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good day. All right, we'll come up with the

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<v Speaker 1>poll question here. We'll recap our vacations. And I of

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<v Speaker 1>course went to Big Sky Country, went to Montana and

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<v Speaker 1>did what manly men do. I went fly fishing there

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<v Speaker 1>and it was great, a lot of fun, beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh we're big in Butte Montana. Yeah, yeah, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>walk down the street and mute Montana. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>was fishing with one of my brothers, my older brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a fish. I've caught a fish, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going down kind of rough waters and he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a raft and he somehow falls off

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<v Speaker 1>and he hits his head on a rock. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>still got a fish on and my brother is in

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<v Speaker 1>the water. He's just hit his head and he's bleeding,

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<v Speaker 1>to which I say to my guide, the fishing guide,

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<v Speaker 1>well can I land this fish before you bring my

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<v Speaker 1>brother into the boat, which my brother was fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>He respected that. So I brought in my whitefish and

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<v Speaker 1>reeled it in and I looked at it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to bring in my brother into the boat. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he needed seven staple in his head. So we go,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to leave where we are to drive to

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Butte Montana, and my brother has got blood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the back of his head. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's got a concussion. And we go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and get him stitched up, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his one request was could I get a pack of cigarettes?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, all right, yeah, we'll get you a

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<v Speaker 1>pack of cigarettes. So he's smoking a heater outside of

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<v Speaker 1>convenience store with you know, staples in his head. And

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<v Speaker 1>now just part of the trip. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what men do. You know, We put our lives on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Yeah. See how far into the trip was

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<v Speaker 1>the accident, I don't know. It was all blending together.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just one big sunrise, one big sun Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the days are forever out there, big sky country, rainbow trout,

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<v Speaker 1>brown trout, graylings, whitefish, cutthroat, that's what we were fishing for.

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<v Speaker 1>Got them all. Yeah, why didn't get the throat? They

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<v Speaker 1>call it the grand slam, but there's five fish and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get the cut throat, but I got everything else. Yes, Pa,

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<v Speaker 1>the staple story sounds and the pictures you sent sound

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<v Speaker 1>like the script for a river runs through it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is fantastic, and you're all set. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they come back. One of the brothers goes in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you stay with the fish or go help your

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<v Speaker 1>brother's perfect. It was a mess from the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 1>my brother and I fly fishing and where it opposite

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<v Speaker 1>ends up a raft and our lines are getting tangled,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just it's it's a mess. It's a metaphor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a metaphor. And then the guide is there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's working so hard. Max did a great job. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my other brother was meanwhile with a guide and

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship was along the lines of Leonardo DiCaprio and

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Winslet and Titanic. Like this guide. You got the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling he was holding my brother while he was fly

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<v Speaker 1>fishing to help him along the way, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>he caught all the fish and he was the teacher's pet. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother and I are, you know, fighting for our

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<v Speaker 1>lives on the Big Hole River. Yeah, mclan, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>some internet research. Are you sure it's not pronounced but Montana? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that joke had to be said. We're all think you're

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<v Speaker 1>better than that. Not really, No, you're not. Yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>these rafts that they have basic first aid kits as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the bleeding, what was done for him before,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously getting the fish was more important to you

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<v Speaker 1>than the brother. Do you really care? I do. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised, but you're never gonna be on a raft. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but medical attention with delayed so you can get that fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're surprised me. No, they had they had some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of first aid there. But you know, my guide said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you get you need stitches, to which my brother said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. And you've got blood coming down the back

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<v Speaker 1>of his neck. Yeah, I said, no, you you probably

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<v Speaker 1>you probably need to go. But I was fishing. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was great, like I finally started reeling in fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>Our brother has to fall out of the damn raft? Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Your brother does he have a history of doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how like there's always like one family member

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like, oh great, of course, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so and so's got to go to the hospital. Go okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. Yeah, yeah, I'm a club. So were you

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<v Speaker 1>aware that Montana was in the news last Yes, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you become there? Was you want to share

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<v Speaker 1>the news? Well, there was a tragedy where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a bear went into a campground and and killed somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that on your mind when you're out there on

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<v Speaker 1>the river? No, but we did talk to people who

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<v Speaker 1>they know the area up there, and that's I just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't see any bears where we were. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other part was Yellowstone was shooting about an hour away

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<v Speaker 1>from us, and I mean I didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and see Kevin Costa and say hello, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you want to you? I mean I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but I thought, you know what, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's vacation. I'm fishing, fly fishing and doing manly things,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I didn't want to disrupt from our camp there. Yes, see,

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<v Speaker 1>at any point that you saw your brother's head leaking

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<v Speaker 1>blood all over the place, did you think of this

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<v Speaker 1>might attract some bears? Then? Not? Good? Well, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>if he kept bleeding into the water, you might attract

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<v Speaker 1>more fish. So I thought, if we left him in

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<v Speaker 1>there for a little while, you know, maybe we get hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the rush? So you did he know? Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>what are you using there? Flying fishing? Now? What type

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<v Speaker 1>of negative? Yeah? Yeah, it's my brother's blood. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really committed. He's committed to the fishing here. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the club. You know, I'm freaked out by bears and

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<v Speaker 1>fishing and hooks and all this. Yeah, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>like real, this is manly. Yes, it is okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the worst part. Now you thought my brother falling

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<v Speaker 1>over and banging his head and we have take him

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<v Speaker 1>to the emergency room. I actually hooked myself in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're fly fishing and there's wind in Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I'm casting and in the wind,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, Brad Pitt, you're thinking the river run through,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wind blows this fly and it goes right

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<v Speaker 1>into my cheek. Now, I did the manly thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just pulled it out, yeah, and started bleeding.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the barb. Well they didn't have barbs. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have Yeah, because in in the in Montana. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to protect the fish show. Everything was catching release.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't like your normal hook, as my guide said,

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<v Speaker 1>if that was a normal hook, we'd have a big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's still it's enough to catch a fish on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it went right into my cheek and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play it up a little bit more. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that it could have been like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bloodier, you know, just something that shows that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this a contact sport. It was almost a

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy for him. And then the guys and the guide

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<v Speaker 1>said you better put on your polaroids because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose an eye. And then so I had

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<v Speaker 1>to put on my sunglasses there. So yep, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be reminded of your safety equipment. Yes I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but I fell down in the river. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you go waiting. They make it look nice. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's professionals. The guy, the guy John Barrett, he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great fishermen that you'll find in the world

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<v Speaker 1>fly fishermen. And I'm out there and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the these rocks were like, uh, if you put snot

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<v Speaker 1>on a bowling ball and you tried to walk on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it felt like. And I've went down twice

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<v Speaker 1>into the water. But you know, that's just that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the risk and the reward of fly fishing in Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are lucky. I'm still alive because it was touching.

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<v Speaker 1>Go you gotta pull question for me, like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be hard the top of that. Um, okay, we're discussing

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest event of the weekend. Is there one that

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<v Speaker 1>stands out? We have Italy beating England, Argentina beating Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>in the Copa, Djokovic winning Wimbledon for his twentieth major

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<v Speaker 1>to tie the all time record, Poyer beating McGregor, box

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<v Speaker 1>narrowing the finals to two one, and there was on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter some suggestion of al Twove's walk off against the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a regular season game, so it's not the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's ar a one a story or isn't they

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<v Speaker 1>all about? I would say Italy beating England because just

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<v Speaker 1>the number of you know, Italians who are here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. If I'm just looking for the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>I think watching something that had that much tension and

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<v Speaker 1>you came down to penalty kicks, Argentina beating Brazil. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>MESSI won a trophy. Big deal. Djokovic is a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal from the standpoint of where he stands all time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if Americans really care since there's

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<v Speaker 1>no American that we've really followed in tennis for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>McGregor breaking his leg. He did it to himself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like or he did it to him Um the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, you know, because it's the NBA in Janis

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<v Speaker 1>was wonderful. Al Tuve hitting a walk off home run.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I don't get this, and I'm gonna ask Harold

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds this. It feels like the Astros think they're victims here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They got to stop this, like you created

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<v Speaker 1>this now all of a sudden, Altuve, Hey, you can

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<v Speaker 1>rip my jersey off to show that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a wire on. Remember you were shy? What what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you didn't want to know? Don't don't tear this off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shy. You're not shy now. But I mean, gang congrats.

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<v Speaker 1>And for every time the Astros do something, well like

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't you do this a couple of years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why did you you know, have to cheat, So

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<v Speaker 1>don't play the victim. Now, nobody wants to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star Game. None of the Astros wanted to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got, hey, my wife's pregnant. Okay, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a nerve, a nagging injury, okay. Feels like the Astros

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<v Speaker 1>are saying the Major League Baseball somehow, some way, they're

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<v Speaker 1>victims here and they just don't want to get booed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe Major League Baseball doesn't want that either, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of bothered me. I'm two Bays, a wonderful player.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe he put his Hall of Fame career

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<v Speaker 1>in jeopardy, you know, by what happened. Maybe, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's only him in Correa, but I mean they got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys that were still left over from

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series team. But stop playing the victim here.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilbon from pardon the interruption, covering the NBA joining us

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<v Speaker 1>from Milwaukee. Hey, hall of famer, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, he does not insist, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>fancy you, said, Wilbon, that's what That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not like that, So that's what under the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Just now, Oh my goodness. No, don't insist upon that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm close to Milwaukee, Dan, I'm eighty eight miles away

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<v Speaker 1>from Milwaukee in Chicago. Fritzie, I gave me two sons time.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, how does Wilbon want to be introduced? And

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<v Speaker 1>where's he joining us from? I was just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>my vacation where I went to Montana fly fishing. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta you gotta like an adventure vacation you've ever taken? No,

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzie just asked me, Dad, He said, what dangerous thing

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<v Speaker 1>have you done? Like? Nothing ever? I mean, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been. I've been in Montana, but i've not I've not.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I went there today, Dan, I would go

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<v Speaker 1>with golf clubs trying to find that same course that

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<v Speaker 1>those guys played, you know last week. But no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no danger. I've never been fly fishing. I went fishing

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<v Speaker 1>once when I was eleven years old with my uncle

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<v Speaker 1>Bill in Chicago and vowed never to go fishing again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've kept that. Well, you're not an outdoorsman like me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a man. Okay, I'll take your word for that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What golf is somehow less less, you know, less than fishing? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times are you? Okay, I've known you a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, we've known you a long time. I have

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<v Speaker 1>never heard you tell fly fishing stories We've never had.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never done that once every twenty years, like oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I went fly fishing was in British

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<v Speaker 1>Columbia in nineteen eighty nine. What made you do it

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<v Speaker 1>this time? Uh? I had to man up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting a little soft. You know. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you you writers used to call us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking hair dues. We still do. Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I would love to call you a talking hair dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you just you don't have any hair, that's right. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I fall outside that categorization. Um, Before I get

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<v Speaker 1>to the bucks and the suns, the United States lost

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<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria. Yeah, okay, should we care about this as

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<v Speaker 1>we head into the Olympics with this team and now

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's some guys still playing in the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>but and it's and it's a friendly, but the United

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<v Speaker 1>States lost to Nigeria in basketball. I was sitting I

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<v Speaker 1>was here in Chicago two nights ago when that game

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and I was at the w NBA game,

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<v Speaker 1>um mystics and the sky. I wanted to go and

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<v Speaker 1>see my friend Canvas Parker play. And I'm with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of guys who have been sports writers, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>all in TV now, all of whom you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jaya Dondey, David Aldrich, Mark Spears, if any goodwill, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole the Crue, Sean Powell. And we're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and we're monitoring this score, right, we're monitoring that game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at a game, and we're going Each guy turns

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<v Speaker 1>to the other and goes, oh my god, we're losing

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<v Speaker 1>the Nigeria with you know, seven minutes left, with four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left, with thirty seconds left. And then they came

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<v Speaker 1>the question from each one of us to the other,

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<v Speaker 1>was how big a deal is this, like, should we

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<v Speaker 1>care about this? Is it a friendly? Is that an exhibition?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a warm up? Is a practice? Is Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant really playing? And so, even as you ticked off

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<v Speaker 1>the answers, kind of yes, yes, yes, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important because we never even remember remember how crazy the

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<v Speaker 1>reporting of the scrimmage loss. The Dream Team lost, like

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Webber and Grant Hill and Bobby Hurley and as

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who I was on that team,

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<v Speaker 1>but those guys were the headliners, and we cared about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And those guys Jordan Barkley, Magic Birt, they wanted us

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<v Speaker 1>to care because they cared. They cared enough to threaten

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of those college players right and said you

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<v Speaker 1>will be shut out summarily tomorrow, and which they essentially did.

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<v Speaker 1>They cared and they wanted us to care. So using

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<v Speaker 1>that criteria, Dan, we got what's the what's the care scale?

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<v Speaker 1>Like is it a seven? Is it's not a nine?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go better than five, though, what about you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm up there with it. But I think it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a testament to the rest of the world that how

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<v Speaker 1>important basketball is. And you can go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Dream Team and what the Dream Team birthed around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we've seen that. I think you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that with the you know, players from Europe who come over,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Greek Freak, I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that impact had on him, or Luca don Chickum,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Joker, like these guys who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably were young if they were even born, and watching

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<v Speaker 1>that Dream Team and what that Dream Team meant, getting videos,

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<v Speaker 1>getting VHS tapes in you know, these other countries. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the importance of that is not lost on me.

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<v Speaker 1>So as much as I'd like to say the United

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<v Speaker 1>States went through the motions, give credit to Nigeria that

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<v Speaker 1>this really meant something to them. And Dan, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this crusade that the All Star Game, which has

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<v Speaker 1>become a complete and utter waste of time, the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Game, waste of time. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see people choosing upsides and go with shirts and skins.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a damn about that. The NBA, for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, is studiously avoiding having Us versus the World.

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<v Speaker 1>If we had that game even the last five years, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking we had the game this coming All Star Game. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>look a look at the Look at the bigs. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got just the front line you mentioned Janni's of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Mbi Joker, the MVP of the league. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>had the three of them, and you've got don Jet

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<v Speaker 1>you you've already mentioned, and you've got Jamal Murray. Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a starting five you'd like to see play

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<v Speaker 1>against an All Star team of US pedal courses? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the league is embarrassed that it

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<v Speaker 1>might that the US team even though the NBA all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys belong to that fraternity. Why won't they do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why won't they do something that you could actually sink

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<v Speaker 1>your teeth into All Star week as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>junk that it is junk. It's just it's an exhibition

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<v Speaker 1>of dunking. Were already got a dunk contest. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the world, because you know there's pride,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd want to do it. If they you put those

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<v Speaker 1>those ten guys out there, those twenty four guys out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna want to win, and the All Star weekend

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<v Speaker 1>becomes something valuable instead of the junk that the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The game is junk. But you look at the testament

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world. I am one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent with you on that. And look at again, I

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<v Speaker 1>just named five guys off top of my head. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the players that you have coming along, the

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<v Speaker 1>young Canadian players in addition to Jamal Murray, the young

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<v Speaker 1>African players. Going back to your question about Nigeria, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a significant development and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see it explored more by the NBA. He's a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer. Michael Wilbon, ESPN's Pardon the Interruption co host,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, part of ESPN ABC's NBA coverage. Jannis is

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<v Speaker 1>always interesting and it's not like he's polarizing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people want to make his style polarizing or his star

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<v Speaker 1>status polarizing. And I always wondered about this. When I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Wilt Chamberlain play, I never said, gush, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why he's not taking jumpers. When I watched Shack,

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<v Speaker 1>I never said, gush, he's not taking jumpers. When I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Kareem, I never said, boy, he doesn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than a sky hook. Why is it that we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just like the Greek freak can be dominating. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need him to shoot a three to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>defense honest. You know, Ben Simmons has to learn to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot because he's on the perimeter and he handles the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the Greek freak down dominating like I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>with that, Mike every possession, Dan, you know this means

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<v Speaker 1>we're old that first of all, let's start with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just let's declare you and I are as. We're

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>philosophically aligned completely, So okay here, I don't want him

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>shooting threes. I do want him to develop a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen foot shot so the wall they put up,

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<v Speaker 1>he can do something else other than maybe pick up

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<v Speaker 1>two or three offensive files a game trying to crash

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<v Speaker 1>through it. So that's as far as I go. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>I am entirely with you. His team's shortcomings to this

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<v Speaker 1>point are not his fault at all. When you go

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<v Speaker 1>forty two and thirteen a couple of nights, don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what more that guy needs to do. Somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do more. And I think it's polarizing, Dan,

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>because we've got this thing, which is fairly attractive otherwise,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>positionless basketball. I do applaud that and the versatility it

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>brings to the game for others. But my god, this

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>guy is a great player. He's a legitimate two time MVP.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>The shortcoming seemed to belong more to his coach and

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>his teammates. And I don't need to see him do anymore.

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I need to see him do what he did last night.

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>In fact, when he wanders out there and shoots the three,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>he hurts his team. His team is less, is less.

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 1>And this is just dumb, the fact that the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>may come out Wednesday night and go out and hoist

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>threes and be down by eighteen, because this is what

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>they've done the whole postseason. They play a specific way.

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it works, It works to the tune of

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>championship level play. And it's just Kendrick Perkins. You could say,

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick my man. Kendrick was a bit strong when he

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>said the dumbest team every in the finals. But but Dan,

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>they do so they do things. You just can't understand

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing because they've proven they can win this way,

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>kicking your butt in the paint with that guy leading

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the way. Oh but it's not good enough even for them.

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't get it,

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think it hurts some Well, look, I Chris

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Middleton and Drue Holiday are you know, they're not guys

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>that are you're going to build around, but they need

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to be complimentary figures that I just want Yannis down low.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him handling the ball bringing it up

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the floor because you can set up that wall that

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Miami did last year in the playoffs. If I have

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>him down low, Okay, now what are you going to do?

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>And if Middleton and Holiday hit shots, yes, that to

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>me makes them formidable. If everybody stands around for Yannis

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to dribble down and then try to break through, then

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>then you're not getting good basketball. If I put him

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>down low, Adan's got a guard him, you put him

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in foul trouble. And then I got Middleton and Holiday

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.479
<v Speaker 1>who were going to be single covered in maybe at times,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, left alone. That to me would be you know,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>my approach to this for the Milwaukee Bucks, And that

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>is the approach I sat with both both Games and Phoenix.

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>It's that between Isaiah Thomas and Avery Johnson. And you know, again,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting with guys who now would be called by

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the entire basketball world younger than them, old guys. They're

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>only guys who are you know, great and played with

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>intellect and won championships. And they said exactly what you're saying.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for. I'm waiting for them knowing basketball

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the way they do, to say no, it's okay to

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>do this. And they're both and they coached, and they're going,

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what what is this? Why isn't he here?

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>And he's a willing passer, right, and he's a tough guy.

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a legitimate tough guy who doesn't shy away, and so, okay,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the free throws could be your problem. And maybe that's

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a problem later in the you know, in the game,

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>not last night, but Dan, that's that's the Milwaukee Bucks conundrum.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>How are they gonna do? What are they gonna do

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night? And what are they gonna do in what

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>many presumed to be a game five Saturday back in Phoenix.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Another thing that I don't understand is as much as

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I love watching Devin Booker, Devin Booker can disappear on you.

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for a guy who has that mamba mentality,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and Kobe was there to mentor him, I just don't

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>see that as much. And you know, maybe I'm asking

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>too much, but we've seen a guy scored seventy in

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 1>a game. I just I expect him to be maybe

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>more consistent in in that just pressuring the defense there

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and there are times he just sort of floats and

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>gives you a three for fifteen night. I think that

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't. This is his first time on any stage,

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>his first time, I remember, this is first time in

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, and I think he's learning still the difference

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>between that level of pressure and becoming that consistent. He

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>had a bad game last night, although I think what

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>happens is I mean every I mean, as great as

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>they are, the level of player above him and more experience,

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they had bad games too, you know. I mean, I'm

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>sure Lebron has had a bad game or two in

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a series. I think I want Booker to have out

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of a six game series, I want him to have

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>three great games. I think he's done that. I think

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>he's done that now. Last night he had a bad game.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And now here's where we got to see the star

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>bounces back. You know, when Kobe told him famously as

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>he wears the tattoo, to be legendary. This is when

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you create your legend. This is when you build it. Now,

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>he did it against the Lakers, he did it against Denver.

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>He even did it against the Clippers multiple games where

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>he was great. Now, he did it in games one

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>until he didn't do it in game three. Obviously, if

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>if Devin Booker is going to be that guy that

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you are talking about, and I believe he can be,

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>then he needs to do that in game four and

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe five or four and six. He's got to do

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that two more times to get to be the best

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>player on the floor. Chris Paul is the most important

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>player on the floor. We're in his jersey, that jersey,

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>but he's got to do it to get them to

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>hoist that trophy. And then he's sort of fulfilling what

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Kobe thought he could be the Lakers in the offseason.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's a great recruiter, but I don't know how much

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>maneuverability they have to be able to recruit. If if

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you're the Lakers, what would you be What would be

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>priority number one? Well, you gotta figure out and I

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can figure this out, but the

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>priority would be how is Anthony Davis gonna consistently contribute.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And look, I love Anthony Davis, right, I mean his game,

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>who he is, I'm predisposed he's a Chicago boy like

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I am. I love Anthony Davis. But when people say

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>top five player, I'm like, I'm not I'm not going

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>there because I can name five I'm gonna take ahead

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of him. Now he's in that next group and there's

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>no sin in that. My god, you could be a

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>GE's been a championship player already. But you gotta figure

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>out what you're gonna get from him and how frequently?

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Because because I don't believe Dan and I don't know

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>what you believe about this. I don't believe these injuries

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and people missing all this time. I don't believe these

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>are one offs. I believe this is where the league is.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I believe they ought to go to a sixty five

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>game schedule, which they're not gonna do. How reliable can

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he be going forward with Lebron And he's got to

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>get in shape. Mike agree, I agree, So you gotta

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>figure you gotta address that, and if you come up

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with an answer, you think it's satisfactory. If you're the

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Laker's brass and you know you're a Lebron. Okay, but

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>if that's not your answer, then what do you do?

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's your second guy? You know there's all this buzz

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.239
<v Speaker 1>out there now you know I'm around you know when

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you're an NBA circles? My god, the rumors about the

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>NBA trades, acquisitions, free agency are the juiciest ones. Most

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of them make no sense. But the Lakers have so

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>little flexibility that they can't just go and get somebody.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to either make a deal, be very creative,

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.479
<v Speaker 1>get Anthony Davis. Can Anthony Davis play seventy two games

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>next year and be Anthony Davis? Well, that hasn't happened

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>like all that often. So I think determining that to

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the degree that you can is the place that the

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Lakers have to start. Would you trade Anthony Davis for

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Jamian Lolly? I knew that was gonna come on. That's

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 1>one of those I was talking about. Okay, my first

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>inclination is yes. But where do you get then? Okay,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>so let's say you got Damon Lebron out there. Do

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you have size? You have? I mean, I mean wings

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>who are six eight and sixty nine seemed to be

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>growing on trees. And again all we gotta do because

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch Nigeria beat the you know, beat

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the US, and that that that friendly. So where do

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you get that? Like where? I mean, you know, they

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have that otherwise. And it seems to me that dynamic,

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Lebron is that. But you need a couple.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>You can't just go say, well, Paul George would be

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a great fit as a two and a half or three.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's get him and he can. You can't then don't

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have the money. They don't. I'm told, I was told

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>all week stop, they don't. They can't do what you're

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe suggesting, what about Porzingiso For Ben Simmons, well, what

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is Lebron at this point? We know Lebron has been

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>patient enough? God the years that Lebron led teams to

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the finals that didn't have it anywhere near what you're

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about suggests, Okay, Lebron is gonna work with these

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>guys at this stage? Is he gonna be patient enough?

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Porzingis plays like forty nine, he plays fewer games. And

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis, well, hell but if you said Philly and Dallas,

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>now I don't like it just because Lucas always got

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and like, what's the complimentary player who can

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>play with Luca Dame? Not complimentary but a shoot Like, seriously,

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy who can just who can shoot it out?

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>The Dame's unfair. Okay, So next level guy, um, you

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>know a top twenty player, Okay, CJ McCollum. Well, well now,

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and see we know CJ doesn't have to have the

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>ball because we've seen Dame have the ball and that

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 1>worked or at least a degree the conference final. Here's

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen for them, though, Dan real quickly. Luca's got

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to be more mature. Luca right now is like he's

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>like glorified, not glorified. He's Rashid Wallace in terms of impact.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he has the ball and he has more diverse

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>skills and all that, but he's out of control. He

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 1>is completely immature on the floor. He undermined his own

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>effort in that series they should have won because he's

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>screaming at the other bench because he's up thirty to nine.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>He is unbelievably immature and they gotta fix that. Andy

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and Rick Carlisle lead. People don't leave when a player

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>is great as Luca don Yeah, but they left, so something,

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>something else has to be done there. I don't think

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he's just player acquisition, but I'm I'm kind of with

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you there on who he needs. Hey, great to talk

0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to you. Congrats on the Hall of Fame. Thank you,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Todd never introduced me that way ever Again, Sir Michael

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Wilbon joining us here. Have you been nighted yet? If

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I can be like certain Nick, I'll be nighted. Hey,

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>can't you come to a game? Can't you bring the

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>whole party to a game like old times? Come on

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>turning into Tony being in the attic for you know,

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. It was fun having

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you a game. You know what, Mike, when the Bulls

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>are back, I'm bringing the guys to Chicago. How's that?

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>There's your guy. There's your guy for Luca Zach Levine.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Although I don't want to lose Zach from what they're

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to do in Chicago, so I strike that. Thank you, Mike.

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Great to talk to you again, buddy. That's Michael Wilbon,

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<v Speaker 1>gets his first win in nineteen years on the corn

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<v Speaker 1>Fairry Tour. And even better, his wife, my godmother and cousin, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 1>is on his bag for the weekend. Awesome, awesome, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll congrats there, Anthony corn Fairry Tour. That's golf. That's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of there beneath the PGA Tour. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like their triple A graduate to the PJA to nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice, McLevin. Didn't we settle on a poll question? Well? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I put the story of the weekend up for the

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<v Speaker 1>poll question. What was it? And it's Italy beating England

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<v Speaker 1>in the euro runs away with it. Actually the Joker

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<v Speaker 1>was second, but then everyone everything's pretty much tied for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Yeah. I watched a lot of Wimbledon and

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that always stands out with Djokovic, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is up for debate of who's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>tennis player of all time male tennis player of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and Djokovic, I think head to head with Nadal and

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<v Speaker 1>Federer may stand out a little bit more. He never

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's sweating. There's just something about Djokovic that

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<v Speaker 1>you just go he seems now he's not always in control.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen you know, moments of anger there with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but when he's playing and playing at a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like a comfortable you know, when you're driving

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<v Speaker 1>in a car and somebody says, how fast are you going,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going, you know, we're going seventy five. Really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like that, Like he looks like he's going

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five, but he's going seventy five. But he looks

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable doing that. And what he did yesterday, what he's

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<v Speaker 1>done this year with you know, three Grand Slam wins

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<v Speaker 1>in a calendar year, pretty amazing stuff. But I go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Rod Labor who to me what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>when he did it, how he did it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different game. But the rackets. McEnroe was special, but

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<v Speaker 1>only for a couple of years. Borg was special at Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Sampras to me was Federer before Federer. He just

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<v Speaker 1>had that athleticism, but that grace about him, catlike grace, aggression.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Nadal is fun to watch, but Nadal always

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's working really hard every time that he plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But Djokovic, that was impressive. But I still think that

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<v Speaker 1>Italy beating England was probably the top story in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Yeah, m a club side poll question. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a overrated, underrated, or properly rated question for three athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with Djokovic. Is he overrated, underrated or properly rated?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we were talking about how it feels weird to

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<v Speaker 1>call him the greatest of all time? Well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>calling him that, Okay, I mean, he's not done yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but the resume is really impressive. It feels like at

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<v Speaker 1>times he's underrated. Kind of forget about him because Nadal

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<v Speaker 1>just his style, his look, Federer has a certain you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Kelly feel to him. Larry just seems elegant when

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<v Speaker 1>he's out there. Djokovic is the guy who used to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, he'd do those impressions like he was

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<v Speaker 1>a goofball a little bit. And I think now people

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<v Speaker 1>waking up to the realization that maybe is the most

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<v Speaker 1>dominating tennis player and to do it with two other

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have won twenty Grand Slam events, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's amazing that if you win twenty like Lennox Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>was a wonderful heavyweight, but he didn't fight anybody. Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes wonderful heavyweight. He didn't really fight anybody. It's when

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<v Speaker 1>you know you had Hearns and Hagler, you had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto Durant like they were sugar Ray Leonard, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>fighting each other and you're winning. You know, that's what's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Ali had Frazier, Ali had Foreman. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>just need to have that rival and to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to do this with two other guys who were two

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<v Speaker 1>of the top what seven, six, seven or eight players

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, So he got three in the top

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<v Speaker 1>six of all time, maybe three in the top five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty damn impressive. When you're winning, you gotta beat

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<v Speaker 1>somebody great to win that title. Yeah, I'm the club

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of overrated, underrated properly rated Yannis after this

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<v Speaker 1>last two game explosion, Are we now underrating Yannis? You

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<v Speaker 1>still hear a lot of the negatives. It seems to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's hitting his free throws. Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what people are not you know, bringing into account is

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago we wondered if he would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play again at all. Remember, we had we had

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<v Speaker 1>players who came on. Channing Fry came on and said

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<v Speaker 1>I had that same injury and I was done for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever six weeks. He's putting up forty back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody's talking about the injury and that guys

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<v Speaker 1>who've had that injury high per extended knee weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to play that. They thought, well, they're going to shut

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<v Speaker 1>him down. He's not gonna be able to play. Factor

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<v Speaker 1>that in. I think he's underrated At times. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we get caught up. He doesn't make free throws, which

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<v Speaker 1>drives me crazy. And for some reason he feels the

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<v Speaker 1>need to prove that he can shoot threes, but he

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<v Speaker 1>can't shoot threes. I would just let him dominate down low,

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<v Speaker 1>just say, come deal with us, and then I got perimeter. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez can shoot the three. You could have Chris Middleton,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have Holiday. That would be my approach. But

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<v Speaker 1>then what do I know coming up next hour, Harold Reynolds,

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