WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: The Lamb Will Slaughter the Lion: Part One

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone Media. Hey everyone, it is it could happen

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<v Speaker 1>here a podcast about things falling apart, about a little

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<v Speaker 1>thing we like to call the crumbles, which is more

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<v Speaker 1>or less the state of affairs we're all living in

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, hottest year on record, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>unprecedented wildfires, smoke blanketing half the country, all that good jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets one in the mood for stories and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily you know, happy stories, but not necessarily sad ones either.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is normally a daily news podcast focused

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<v Speaker 1>on collapse and things falling apart, but here at cool

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Media, a lot of us are big fans of fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly speculative science fiction, often with a dystopian bent to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've written a book in that theme. And then Margaret Kiljoy,

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<v Speaker 1>host of cool People who did cool stuff, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of one of our favorite people is an author of

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<v Speaker 1>numerous short stories, novels, novellas, all focusing on kind of

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<v Speaker 1>at least elements of the feeling of collapse. And so Margaret,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you came to us a while ago. Andre,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know it would be neat, is starting a

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<v Speaker 1>literary magazine that's focused on the same kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we cover from a news basis in our daily

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<v Speaker 1>show because basically fiction is has collapsed as a way

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<v Speaker 1>for people to make a living, but somehow we have not.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're trying to sneak our way into paying people

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<v Speaker 1>for writing fiction. And that'll work as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>people listen. Margaret, that's that's what I got for an intro?

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<v Speaker 1>How was that? Is that what you hoped for? Right? For?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's good. That puts it more clearly than I would.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're taking over Sundays because there really wasn't anything to

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<v Speaker 2>take over because there wasn't anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't doing any Sunday content. Yeah, that's right. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's really a daily show bitches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because no one there is no no one goes

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<v Speaker 2>to church anymore. But we suddenly still have Sunday free,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we figured we can sneak into Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Are we saying that this is church for you

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<v Speaker 1>now that we are your God? Yes? Essentially?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Why not? Yeah, this story does have things that

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<v Speaker 2>are like gods in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the first thing that we're going to do, the

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<v Speaker 2>first several episodes are going to be one of my novellas.

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<v Speaker 2>The general format is going to be that I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have authors on to read me stories. But I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that I would start with one of my own

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<v Speaker 2>and bring Robert on to read Robert a story.

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<v Speaker 1>I love stories.

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<v Speaker 2>The first story that we're going to read is a

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<v Speaker 2>novella that I wrote called The Lamble Slaughter of the Lion.

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<v Speaker 2>It was originally published by tour dot com and you

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<v Speaker 2>can read it in paper form if you want, or

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<v Speaker 2>you can listen to it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret, what separates legally a novel from a novella.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a length thing. It's a novellas are short novels.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes flash fiction, short story, novelette, novella, novel, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>usually people just use the word counts of various awards

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<v Speaker 2>in order to determine the categorization of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And from that point of view, oh, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it in front of me, but I think a novella

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<v Speaker 2>starts at about seventeen thousand words and runs up to

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<v Speaker 2>about forty thousand words and then novel takes over. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is at least I think for the Hugo Awards,

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<v Speaker 2>which this is not a winner of, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>the categorization that people use. I like writing avellas I

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<v Speaker 2>write short by default anyway, And I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's undiagnosed ADHD or what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a matter of skill because and

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, a lot of people who aren't in

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<v Speaker 1>the viz may know, it's harder to write good short

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<v Speaker 1>fiction than good long fiction. At least that's my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>as it's the same reason why one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that was neat for a while about Twitter, It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been this way for a minute, but back when there

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<v Speaker 1>was an actual cap on how much you could post,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a degree to which. One of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>writers liked it a lot, especially joke writers, is it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forced brevity, and like brevity is the soul

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<v Speaker 1>of wit, you know. That's the thing. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's silly to actually say like that short novels are

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<v Speaker 1>harder than long novels, But as a general rule, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the most impactful fiction I read tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>short fiction, even though I prefer long fiction because it

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<v Speaker 1>gives me something to do with my time. But like

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about stuff that's like hit me, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the gut, real hard. It's usually been short fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that makes sense to me. I remember in

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<v Speaker 2>high school someone told me the like cliche that every

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<v Speaker 2>novelist is a failed short story writer, and every short

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<v Speaker 2>story writer is a failed poet. Yeah, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess by that standards, I'm a failed poet. But don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not subjecting you to that. I'm only subjecting you

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<v Speaker 2>to my fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. I will subject you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>my poetry one of these days. But uh no, I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a joke there. I was thinking I

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<v Speaker 1>was the figure in one, but it turns out I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have one. So let's just do the story, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this book is called The Lamble Slaughter the Lion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the first book in the Danielle Kine series, which

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<v Speaker 2>currently only has two books in it. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>about me trying to solve that chapter one. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>have to pull a knife. It's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't enjoy it. Some times you've just got to

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<v Speaker 2>get a knife in your hands and make it clear

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<v Speaker 2>which way the stabby end is pointing. Let me out here,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd said, before the knife got involved. It hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>a question. Men always assumed that declarative statements like that

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<v Speaker 2>are questions. This is a ghost town, he said. I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't caught his name. He'd been nice enough to pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up pitch hiking in the middle of nowhere, Iowa,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't nice enough to let me out where

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted. That's all right, I said, just let me out.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be someplace better, a wal Mart or something. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you out there. Let me out here. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>just let you out in the middle of nowhere, not

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself. It isn't safe, he said it without a

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<v Speaker 2>trace of irony. He locked the doors. That's when the

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<v Speaker 2>knife got involved. I slid it out from my Jean's pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>clicked it open. Pulling a knife means going double or nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was either going to get out of the situation

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<v Speaker 2>or the situation was about to get a lot worse. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. He pulled over. I unlocked my door, grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>my pack, and hit the gravel before he came to

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<v Speaker 2>a complete stop. Fucking bitch. I flipped off his car

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<v Speaker 2>as he drove away, But at least he was driving away.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst of it was he'd probably thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>just taking care of me, that he was a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I hoped bad things were going to happen to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and soon ten years of putting up with shit like

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<v Speaker 2>that from drivers, it was getting old. Hell, at twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting old. Ten years ago, I'd talked to

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<v Speaker 2>drivers about anything and loved them for it. I loved

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<v Speaker 2>the nice ones for their kindness. I love the crazies

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<v Speaker 2>for their stories. And sure I hated the racist pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of shit, but if nothing else, I got to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I had the pulse of this racist piece of

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<v Speaker 2>shit country. But a decade is an awful long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever shine I'd found on the shit that his

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<v Speaker 2>hitchhiking had long since faded. Still it got me where

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go. The town's welcome sign had been

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<v Speaker 2>painted over. Don't know what it used to say, but now,

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<v Speaker 2>in clean, stenciled letters, it said Freedom, Iowa City Limits, unincorporated,

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<v Speaker 2>an entire town, abandoned by a dead economy and occupied

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<v Speaker 2>by squatters and activists and anarchists. It was the last

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<v Speaker 2>place Clay had lived, the last place he'd spent much

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<v Speaker 2>time before he'd found his way west, and his hand

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<v Speaker 2>had shown his razor the way to his throat. No

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<v Speaker 2>warning signs, no cries for help. I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions. If there were answers, I might find them

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<v Speaker 2>in Freedom, Iowa. I shouldered my pack and clipped the

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<v Speaker 2>waistbelt shut. It had been Clay's pack. I had his

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<v Speaker 2>suicide note folded up in the smallest pocket. The road

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<v Speaker 2>into town was two lanes that led away from the highway,

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<v Speaker 2>paved with pale patched asphalt. The trees beside it climbed

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<v Speaker 2>toward the sky, and I walked in the double yellow

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<v Speaker 2>with something of a spring to my step. After a

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards and a couple turns, when the trees were

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<v Speaker 2>getting thick enough to cast the whole of the road

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<v Speaker 2>into shadow, I saw a deer on the shoulder ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>rooting at something on the pavement. The beast was crimson red,

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<v Speaker 2>blood red. I didn't even know deer came in that color.

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<v Speaker 2>I crossed to the far side of the street so

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't disturb him, but I couldn't help staring. A

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit was dead on the ground beneath him, its belly up,

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<v Speaker 2>its rib cage splayed open. The deer looked up at me,

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<v Speaker 2>then his red muzzle dripping red blood. On the right

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<v Speaker 2>side of his head, he bore an antler. On the

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<v Speaker 2>left side of his head, he bore two Jesus. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept walking, because what else do you do? He

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<v Speaker 2>watched me until I was around the next bend, and

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help feeling his gaze on my back. The

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<v Speaker 2>only sounds in the air were birds and the faint

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<v Speaker 2>white noise of a nearby river, and wild flowers were

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<v Speaker 2>in bloom on the forest floor. Another quarter mile and

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped out of the woods and saw the town

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<v Speaker 2>on the far bank of a small, slow moving river.

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<v Speaker 2>Half a hundred houses were set into the hillside along

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<v Speaker 2>a single winding street. A few old cars were part

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<v Speaker 2>along the curb and in driveways, but I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a gauge on whether they were in use or abandoned.

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<v Speaker 2>A two lane bridge spanned the river. Clay had talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the place like it was paradise. I crossed over,

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<v Speaker 2>pausing to look down over the guard rail at the

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<v Speaker 2>water thirty feet below as it tumbled and tore its

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<v Speaker 2>way over river rock. Just at the other end of

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge, a boarded up gas station was covered in

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<v Speaker 2>street art as good as any I'd seen in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a quarter mile farther up the hill to

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<v Speaker 2>the first houses, and most were overgrown, more than a

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<v Speaker 2>few with caved in roofs. Others looked haphazardly maintained. I

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<v Speaker 2>walked into town, but I didn't see any signs of life,

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<v Speaker 2>no smoke or lights or motion. No one was out

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<v Speaker 2>on the street or sitting on their porches. Maybe everyone

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<v Speaker 2>had left when Clay had. Maybe the water was poisoned

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<v Speaker 2>the same as it seemed to be in half of

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<v Speaker 2>Middle America, and singing shit like that fucked up mutated

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<v Speaker 2>deer with three antlers made everyone realize it wasn't safe

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around. The first five or six houses I

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<v Speaker 2>passed were split levels set into the hill. Welded rebar

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<v Speaker 2>statues populated one front lawn, a three antler deer amongst

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<v Speaker 2>other woodland and farmyard animals. Even the statue seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>bore into me with its stare, and the damn thing

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even have eyes. The next house, alone on its block,

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<v Speaker 2>was an old colonial. It was handsome, its wood siding

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<v Speaker 2>painted dark. Its circular attic window is an eye, casting

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<v Speaker 2>its longing gaze out over the river.

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<v Speaker 1>And Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked up the cement steps to a large wooden

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<v Speaker 2>patio on the side of the house and peered in

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<v Speaker 2>through the sliding door. But it was darker inside than outside,

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<v Speaker 2>and I only saw my own straggly short hair reflected

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<v Speaker 2>and a silhouette in the glass. I sat down on

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<v Speaker 2>the porch chair and leaned back to ponder the empty

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<v Speaker 2>town and my lack of luck. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how to find what I wanted to find. I had

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<v Speaker 2>come here because I needed motion. Without motion, there was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing without motion, I was probably as dead as clay.

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<v Speaker 2>I kicked back in the chair, put my feet up

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<v Speaker 2>on the table, and looked out over the town. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>make it my kingdom for the day, I decided, and

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<v Speaker 2>hit the road again tomorrow. I had canned food enough

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<v Speaker 2>to see me through at least three meals, and if

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<v Speaker 2>I got desperate, I had a jar of peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in my bag that would keep me alive for days.

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<v Speaker 2>I took out my phone and headphones, put on black metal,

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<v Speaker 2>and dozed off. I like the tiny little dreams I

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<v Speaker 2>get when I sleep. In the afternoon that day, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a very young goblin riding this bronosaurus like thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was in love with a human boy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was afraid he'd find out I was a goblin.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm awake, I'm happy sometimes, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm ever as happy awake as I am when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dreaming. Awake, I've got all this nostalgia, this feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm separated from something I can smell but can't touch.

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<v Speaker 2>I get these sudden, un arable realizations that I should

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<v Speaker 2>have been more present during all those moments in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>that I should have taken the time to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, man, this is my life and it's fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes dreaming I just swim in the joy and the

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<v Speaker 2>intensity and the nowness of life. Late in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard rustling and opened my eyes. Halfway on the

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<v Speaker 2>railing in front of me, a rabbit cleaned its paws.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it, drowsy. It turned toward me, and its

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<v Speaker 2>chest was a raw red wound, its rib cage and

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<v Speaker 2>organs gone. It smelled like death and blood, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't usually smell much in my dreams. It hopped away,

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<v Speaker 2>and I presumed it a nightmare and fell back asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your feet off the table. What I asked, startled awake,

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<v Speaker 2>ripping out my earbuds. Can't have dirty boots on the table,

0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.480
<v Speaker 2>he said. I got my feet back on the porch

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<v Speaker 2>and turned around. A gangly, handsome fellow was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>me with a brown fist on his hip and a

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<v Speaker 2>weird sort of smile hovering on his face. His septum

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<v Speaker 2>was pierced. One side of his head was shaved. The

0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.040
<v Speaker 2>rest of his hair was thick black curls. His short

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<v Speaker 2>dress was clean, faded black, stitched up in a few

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<v Speaker 2>places with dental floss. He was heavily tattooed, mostly black.

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<v Speaker 2>Work Behind him, the sliding glass door was open. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't heard him walk out. And who are you,

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<v Speaker 2>he asked Danielle, I said. He was looking me over,

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<v Speaker 2>his head cocked to the side, trying to make up

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<v Speaker 2>his mind about something. I uh, I didn't know anyone

0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.680
<v Speaker 2>lived here. I told him, well, he said, someone does.

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<v Speaker 2>There's at least four or five spots left if you

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<v Speaker 2>want your own place, more than that too, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know how to patch a roof. He stared at me

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<v Speaker 2>as I tried to process this information. Oh, you're new,

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<v Speaker 2>like new, new, like don't know anything new. I just

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<v Speaker 2>got here, I said, I was thinking maybe there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>anyone left. I'm vulture. He said, what pronouns do you prefer?

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<v Speaker 2>She I said, I use He told me. I nodded, well, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>I came outside because there was a strange woman sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>on her porch. Everyone else there inside wondering who the

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<v Speaker 2>hell you are. He started drumming his fingers on his chin. Wade,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your last name, Cain. It wasn't my legal name,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was my punk name. You're Danny Kine. His

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<v Speaker 2>whole body loosened up and a smile exploded across his face.

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<v Speaker 2>I had rather Danielle than Danny, I said. I hadn't

0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.840
<v Speaker 2>let anyone but Clay called me Danny. In years, Clay

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<v Speaker 2>talked about you. I don't know. Maybe every day, come inside,

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<v Speaker 2>eat with us, Welcome to town. There's a kind of

0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.880
<v Speaker 2>hospitality found amongst squatters and punks that I'll never stop appreciating.

0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.880
<v Speaker 2>When there's not enough to go around, that's when people share.

0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.320
<v Speaker 2>As far as I can tell, it's part of why

0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.200
<v Speaker 2>us poor get taken advantage of so much. So I

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<v Speaker 2>met a tattooed man in a ghost town, and I

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<v Speaker 2>followed him into his house because he knew someone I knew. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to give it some thought, but it felt

0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.360
<v Speaker 2>a hole of a lot safer than getting in a

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<v Speaker 2>car with a stranger. Outside. The house was rustic and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pretty. Inside it was astounding. I've spent plenty

0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of times in squats in the US, and I thought

0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I knew what to expect most squats. They range from

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<v Speaker 2>people who, honest to God, piss in the fucking corner,

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of normal but pretty messy, to artists obviously

0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.120
<v Speaker 2>live here. Jesus Christ, why is there a life size

0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.600
<v Speaker 2>hippo made from styrofoam in the living room? But that

0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.960
<v Speaker 2>house was something else. It was clean, for one thing,

0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and every wall was painted gray, black or copper. Every

0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.240
<v Speaker 2>fixture was gold or copper, even if half of them

0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.000
<v Speaker 2>were spray painted that way. Mirrors were everywhere, letting daylight

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<v Speaker 2>reach into the corners.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>While two full sized couches sat empty, The three people

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<v Speaker 2>in the living room were crammed onto a love seat,

0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 2>lounging atop one another in the way that punks and

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.920
<v Speaker 2>puppies do. A man and a woman sat next to

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<v Speaker 2>one another while another woman lay across them, tattooing the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the man's neck by hand with needle, thread

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<v Speaker 2>and ink. May I present to you, Danielle, Vulture said, grandly,

0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 2>gesturing the Danny Kane. Danielle now though just walked into

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<v Speaker 2>town for her very first time. Well damn, the tattoo recipient, said,

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Kane herself. That's Thursday and Doomsday. Sitting down proper,

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<v Speaker 2>Vulture said, by way of introductions, we call them the

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<v Speaker 2>days Freedom. Iowa's only power couple. Come on, do the thing.

0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.679
<v Speaker 2>He clapped his hands giddy. I don't want to. The

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<v Speaker 2>woman said, we gotta do it, the man said. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrangled his arms free from underneath a tattooist, then held

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<v Speaker 2>out his fists hands together. He had the word Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>tattooed on his knuckles, black against his brown skin. The

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<v Speaker 2>woman's sighed, then held out her pale hands, palms down

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<v Speaker 2>in the same fontday Today's tattoo, but clearly more faded

0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was the word doomsday. And this is Brynn, Vulture said. Brynn.

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<v Speaker 2>The tattooist looked up at me with pale, gray eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>An inch thick black line was tattooed from the bangs

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<v Speaker 2>of her hair line to the bridge for nose, which

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<v Speaker 2>where it met her glasses formed a hypnotizing geometry. She

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<v Speaker 2>had the same military style belt I did, the same

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<v Speaker 2>extendable baton worn in its holster on one side and

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<v Speaker 2>pepper spray on the other that I did. Both weapons

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 2>are better than a knife for self defense. Knives are

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.080
<v Speaker 2>only good for threatening, not for fighting. Pepper spray can

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<v Speaker 2>actually disable someone. Baton can beat someone near to death

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<v Speaker 2>without cutting them. Her eyes met. I try not to

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<v Speaker 2>read too much into things like that, but her eyes met.

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<v Speaker 2>After a brief moment, she went back to tattooing. Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>so it brings you to this shitty little corner of

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<v Speaker 2>the world, Bryn asked, without diverting her attention from her work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not shitty, Thursday said. Don't talk. Your neck moves

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk. It's kinda shitty. Doomsday said, by the

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<v Speaker 2>look on his face, not talking was probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday's least favorite things. All done, Bryn announced, she put

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<v Speaker 2>the needle down next to the vial of ink on

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<v Speaker 2>a rag on the coffee table and turned Thursday around

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<v Speaker 2>so everyone could see. On the back of his neck

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<v Speaker 2>was a stylized deer's head, three antlers sprouting from its

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<v Speaker 2>crown and running up towards his hairline. I was about

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<v Speaker 2>to ask about it, but a sudden fear shut my mouth.

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 2>There was something more to freedom than I knew, and

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I wanted to feel right at home,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. Vulture complimented Brynn on her work and Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>on his taste, then took a photo of the tattoo

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<v Speaker 2>with his phone. Vulture, you want to help me get

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<v Speaker 2>started on dinner, Brinne asked. Thursday started clearing up the

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo equipment. As soon as I find the right filter

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<v Speaker 2>and post this, I can help. I said. I like cooking,

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<v Speaker 2>so I followed Brynn to the kitchen to dinner, happy

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to see if making food he get my mind off

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the worries that raced through me. Vulture straggled behind us,

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 2>tapping and swiping at his phone. You definitely don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to help cook, Brynn said, I'd enjoy it, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved cooking for groups, hated cooking for myself. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's just me, I'll eat fucking protein bars for dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Brynn turned on the lights. A series of bright LEDs

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<v Speaker 2>wired into a wooden strip screwed into the ceiling. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you get power, I asked solar, Vulture said, still

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 2>staring at his phone. Don't use it for much, just

0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 2>some lights in our phones. He set his phone down

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<v Speaker 2>on the counter and started rooting through a produce basket,

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<v Speaker 2>procuring an onion, which he set in front of me.

0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I started dicing it as Brynn ran outside to turn

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.399
<v Speaker 2>on the propane for the stove. Where do you get

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the gas, I asked, We of Valter demurd We buy

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<v Speaker 2>it at Walmart, only place to get pretty much anything

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.040
<v Speaker 2>within a two hour drive. I almost asked them where

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.359
<v Speaker 2>they got the money, but I figured I knew the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Some combination of crime, seasonal labor, and working remote same

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<v Speaker 2>as the rest of us travelers. And the water, I asked,

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 2>used a water key? Just turn the city water back on?

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 2>He said, you can buy basically anything on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a ship to someone in Chicago. Vulture at this

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<v Speaker 2>grand way of gesturing with every word he spoke and

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<v Speaker 2>bewing everything around us with meaning. Brynn came back in

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<v Speaker 2>whistling and swept up the diced onion into a frying pan.

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<v Speaker 2>She was taller than me, muscled, and handsome as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>In any other circumstance, i'd probably be in love with

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<v Speaker 2>both of them already. Instead, they were a mystery to me,

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<v Speaker 2>a mystery I am to solve for Clay's sake and

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<v Speaker 2>for my own. The Water's not like fucked up or something, though,

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<v Speaker 2>No way, the water's great, Vulture said. I opened my

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<v Speaker 2>mouth to ask about the mutated deer, but shouting from

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the street cut me off. Brynn set down the spoon,

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<v Speaker 2>Vulture set down his knife, and we all met each

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<v Speaker 2>other's eyes. The shower was soon a scream. We ran

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<v Speaker 2>for the door. Chapter two. I'm gonna do two chapters today.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is listening. You're gonna get to hear the first

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<v Speaker 2>two chapters today. That's man, that's how much I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay. Yeah. I read both of these a while ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm eagerly awaiting the third. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that like I found most enticing about this is

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<v Speaker 1>like about about the Daniel Kine series in particular, is

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of like the It takes the occult, cryptid

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<v Speaker 1>sort of milieu that I've always loved and provide It's

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<v Speaker 1>the first like procedural I've seen in that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>genre that's that's like punk focused. Yeah, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it fits really well because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of themes, like early death is

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<v Speaker 1>a really big theme just generally in your writing, but

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<v Speaker 1>also in this series. And like the what's interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking that that milieu where usually you've got

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, a couple of FBI agents or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever combating these these horrors that are are kind of inexplicable,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas with with with this series, the horror is always

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<v Speaker 1>very explicable. The thing that's actually frightening is always the

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<v Speaker 1>way human beings treat each other, Like the way people

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<v Speaker 1>are pushed out and edged out and crushed in the

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<v Speaker 1>margins of society. Like that's that's the actual horror. And

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the the monsters, the the occult stuff is you know,

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>those are those are something a little bit harder to define.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not the as in the real life. As

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<v Speaker 1>as in the real world, I should say, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, uh, is a unique vibe, So.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I appreciate that. Yeah. Two, the sun sat fat

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<v Speaker 2>and low on the western horizon at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the street, and the last light of the day lent

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>everything vivid faded colors, white lambs dappled with red and purple.

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<v Speaker 2>Wounds paced a circle around both lanes of the street,

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>not twenty yards from where we stood. Geese dodged in

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and out between them, and a regal goat oversaw the parade.

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Each creature had only a gaping wound where its rib

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>cage had been, Yet they lived. They opened their mouths

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<v Speaker 2>to bellow and squawk and bleat, but their organless bodies

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<v Speaker 2>let out only strange rasps mixed in with the good

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>summer scents, early summer flowers, a neighbor's barbecue, a campfire.

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Farther off still was the iron of dried blood, the

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<v Speaker 2>rod of death, the same as the rabbit I thought

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 2>i'd dreamt. A fluttering above me caught my eye on

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>the power lines. Hundreds of birds without ribcas ages, sparrows

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 2>and finches, jays and pigeons, cried dry and unholy, an

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<v Speaker 2>angry jury to the trial below. I was transfixed. I

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>can't say if it was magic or shock. I can't

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>say the two are wholly distinct. I stood on the

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>lawn with my jaw hanging low, staring at the undead

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>spectacle before me. At the center, a man stood bent over,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for breath. He'd been running, he'd been screaming. Hints

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of white hair peeked out from beneath his sweater's hood,

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>and he wore patched black jeans and the look of

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>a man condemned. For a moment, I thought he was

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the master of those animals, some punk rock summoner. But

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 2>everywhere he tried to walk, a barnyard demon blocked his path.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to reach us, Doomsday, he called out,

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>his voice hoarse from screaming, Tell Doomsday run. I started

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>toward him. Vulture put his hand on my arm. He

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>was filming with his phone. We've got to help, I said,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 2>we can't. Bolter said he was near to tears. Bryn

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>on my other side was as well. They knew this man,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 2>They cared about him. Thursday and Doomsday stepped out the

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>front door a few moments after the rest of us,

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>each with an identical handgun. She held her slack at

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>her side at dead weight. He kept both hands on

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the grip, his fingers near the safety. Where the hell

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 2>had I found myself? Then I saw the deer, the

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>blood red deer stalk down the hill, the last remnants

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 2>of the sun at his back as three antlers and

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>sharp silhouette. The beasts parted for their master, and the

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 2>old man straightened up turned to meet his fate. The

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>creature reared on to his back legs and kicked the

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 2>man in the chest. His ribs broke loud like gunshot.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>My ears rang from the blow. The man collapsed without

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>a sound, and the deer reached his muzzle into his

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>chest and tore out his heart. If I'd had a car,

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I could have run. I could have safe somewhere, anywhere

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>if I'd had a car. The highway was too far

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to run, and I had visions of that monstrous deer

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>chasing me over the river through the forest, hoofs in

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 2>my back, antlers in my chest, my heart held aloft

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 2>above my dying eyes. So I didn't run. I stood

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>in company with Clay's friends, near to paralyzed with fear.

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>The Sun's almost gone. Vulture whispered, it's powerless at night.

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>The beasts parted once more, and the hill walked off

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>down the hill, down toward the river and out of sight.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>The animals plodded slowly after the birds were still just

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>then and the man was still forever. What the ever

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>loving fuck? I asked? I was sweating. We were back

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>in the living room, but Doomsday was the only one sitting.

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't figure out if I felt safer near the

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 2>door and away from these people, or far from it

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 2>and away from the corpse that lay under a sheet

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>on the patio. Vulture had left the stranger shovels over

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>their shoulders to dig the man's grave. A small crowd

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>was gathering on the patio, well wishers, investigators, the curious.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>No one told me, and I couldn't figure it out.

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Brynn put her hand on my shoulder blade. I recoiled

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>from her touch. The creature's name is Ulixie, Doomsday said,

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 2>what the ever loving fuck? You knew Clay? You knew

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>his magic? Yeah, I mean he read taro and shit.

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he'd wave his hands around, say a couple words

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>about chaos and endless spirits to like, get her head

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>straight before we do something stupid or dangerous. You've never

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 2>seen one of the endless spirits. No, I hadn't seen

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the endless spirits because the endless spirits were

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking metaphors. All right, they're not Doomsday, said, no shit.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I started tapping the heel of my palm on my

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 2>outer thigh obsessively. It wasn't a nervous habit I'd ever

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>had before. I'd probably never been so nervous. We burned

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the hell out of dinner. But Thursday came in with

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>cups on a tarnish silver platter, offered me a cup.

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I knocked it out of his hand. The porcelain hit

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the wooden floor and rolled away. If only the floor

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>had been cement, it would have smashed like it should have.

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>After all these years I'd lived outside of polite society,

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd finally fallen through the looking glass. I know you're

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 2>freaked out, Thursday said, I would be too, But right

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>now this can't be about you. Right now, we've got

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>to figure some shit out. No Doomsday, said to her lover.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>It's all right. The words will hold. The house is safe.

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm safe. The plush couch welcomed me into its embrace.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Brynn sat next to me and I leaned against her.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I let my nervous energy flow out of me into

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the ground, like Clay had taught me. I let a

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>stranger support me. The people in the house, they probably

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>weren't going to hurt me. That's about all I could

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>ever be sure about anyone. Doomsday met my eyes. She

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>was a severe, powerful woman, heavy set, commanding and beautiful,

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>not without a certain warmth, a certain flicker of something

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>carrying at the edge of her eyes. The deer's name

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>is Eulixe, she told me again, an endless spirit, a demon,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a creature of vengeance that walks these woods, swims in

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 2>this river, watches this town. He's been a guardian spirit

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>until tonight. You worship it, I said. It wasn't a question.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd say people revere him. There's no worship why, Doomsday

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>sipped her tea. We summoned him to kill a man

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>last year on Solstice, to kill a man who'd made

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>himself king. We summoned him to keep anyone from following

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>in that man's footsteps. Desmond Brynn said. There were about

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty people who moved here at the start, Doomsday said

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, in early spring. Clay was one of them.

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>After a couple of months, when it looked like the

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 2>place wasn't about to be cleared out by cops, word

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>went around. More of us showed up, mostly from Chicago.

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 2>It was hard living, and we were cold and hungry

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and overworked. For some people it was a free place

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>to live. Other people a place where anarchist ideals could

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>be put into practice. Some of us came for our

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>own reasons. It worked all right until Desmond motherfucker managed

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to take power. Thursday said. No one was supposed to

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>be able to do that, that was the whole point.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. He got himself running the security Council,

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and he got himself running in just about everything. He

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>did some good, scared off some dudes who were giving

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>us shit, but he just power man power just fucked

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>up things to people. A tracks fucked up people in

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>the first place. So you killed him, I asked, No,

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>we didn't kill him, Thursday said. Then he looked introspective.

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Well eventually, yeah, but only after it got all animal

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>farm up in here and Desmond fucking beat this kid

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>to death right there on the bridge in front of

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>ten people, caved in his skull, tossed the body into

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>the river. Ben the nicest little crust lord you ever

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>would have met, Vulture said. He slid the door shut

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>behind himself and started to strip off his grave soiled clothes.

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>You have any idea how hard it is to get

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>friend's body out of a river. We didn't know what

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>to do, Doomsday said. There weren't enough of us to

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>kick him out. He had too much sway. We could

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>have killed him, but it would have meant civil war.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>We were going to leave. Thursday said, about half the

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>town was going to leave. Desmond started saying shit about

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>how we couldn't like if we left. We couldn't be

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>trusted because we knew too much. If we left, he

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>quote couldn't guarantee our safety. Clay was the one who

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>talked to us out of assassination, Doomsday said. Thursday and

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I were on our way out the door, guns in hand,

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>before the first light of morning of summer solstice, almost

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>a year ago.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Clay caught up with us because he was gathering up

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the only people in town crazy enough to believe in

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>his magic. Rebecca. She was the only other real witch.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>The man you saw die, his name was Anchor. The

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 2>three of them came for me in that early morning fog.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>We went down to the river right under the bridge.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>We each had a roll. I was the innocent. They

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>blindfolded me. Clay and Rebecca set their peace anchor, drew

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>blood up from his palm, let it run into the

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>river and on to the stone. When the solstice sun rose,

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>it drew Eulixe into the world. A spirit that turns

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the predator into the prey. Eulxe hunts the vengeful, the hateful.

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>As Clay put it, Eulxe hunts those who wield power

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>over others. I wouldn't believed a word that she was

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>saying had I heard it the night before. As she spoke,

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>her voice fell in and out of confidence. Likely the

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>times she'd told the story before, it had been heroic.

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Desmond and his crew tried to interrupt us. One of

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>his friends ripped my blindfold off, just in time for

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>me to watch Eulxe come out of the water. He

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>staggered like a new born colt, then looked hard at Desmond.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Desmond stumbled back, tripped, and Eulixe caught him by the throat,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>dragged him over to the river's edge and held his

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>face beneath the water, ripped open his rib cage, tore

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>out his heart. Desmond's crew fucked off. Eulixe stayed damn,

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, polysyllabic expression was sort of beyond me. So yeah,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>welcome to Freedom, Iowa. For the past year, we've had

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 2>this benevolent, murderous spirit watching over us, which is weird,

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>but it's gone fine, which brings us to tonight. Thursday said,

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>which brings us to tonight Doomsday agreed. The last thing

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Clay said to me when I dropped him off at

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>a truck stop about two months back was that Eulixe

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>would turn on his summoners. I didn't really believe him,

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>not until tonight. There was a rap on the sliding

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>door and I jolted Vulture, slid open the door and

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>had a brief conversation with someone. They're ready, I guess,

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>he reported, then slipped outside. The days stood up, strained

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>each other's collars and hair, then went out the door. Well,

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Brent said, I suppose we're going to a funeral. Duh,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>there's really a cliffhanger, but you know that's what we got.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I I I find the uh, the the idea

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>you're playing with here particularly compelling because it's it's such

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>a again, it's such like a The actual conflict here

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is so grounded, like a significant chunk of our audience

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>have have dealt with the problem of like self declared

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>security taking power and radical activists. Like it's the it's

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like the easiest way to tell if somebody is a problem,

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>if they've like appointed themselves security and sort of this. Uh,

0:35:55.440 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but also like when you're the the the difficulty is

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>like it's a double edged knife, right because not only

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>is there the problem of like people putting themselves in

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a position of power, but when you start talking about like, well,

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>how do we get someone out of power, how do

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>we like remove the like, well, that's the effectively the

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>same problem, just a different shade of it, and it

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>can go it's the same dark places again. I just

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>love I love the I love that all of the

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the actual like the quote unquote monster in this isn't

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>isn't the monster I can definitely see. You know, we

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>talk when we hang out, we talk a lot about Tolkien,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and I can see I can even see a bit

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>of Toll Like I can see the Tolkien in this story, right,

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>because like, no matter how how kind of like grand

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the magic we're talking about here, the actual, the actual

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>conflict is always power and how to use it and

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>how it gets used, whether or not it ever can

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>be Uh anyway, I don't know. I like your stories, Margaret.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if people want to hear part two, chapters three

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and four, they're gonna have to wait a whole last week.

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that just cruel you assholes? How dare you wait? Yes?

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we'll be back next Sunday for the second

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>episode of the It could Happen Here book Club? Or

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 2>is it the Cool Zone book Club?

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>What is this called the Cool Zone book Club? That

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>is that is your job to figure out?

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, it's the Cool Zone book Club.

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it rolls off, happens to your ear earbuds. So

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<v Speaker 1>check back in next week where we will uh, we'll

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>be doing more punk X files. I will say I

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>think modern David Duchovny would be great, uh in as

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>as an elder punk in the Danielle Kane series one

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>stick him in there.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>One one like Wonderful Brief Week Holly with director who's

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>like movies I've seen and shit was like messaging me

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter looking into adapting this and it didn't end

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>up going forward. But I had this moment where I

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, I want to see this show so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I also you could, you could, You could

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely have Molder in this, just like Molder as an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's when his life has finally collapsed around him,

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<v Speaker 1>just like living in his squat, masturbating, he was studying

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<v Speaker 1>pornography the way he always did on this show, just

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<v Speaker 1>like this week. Oh yeah, that guy moved in here

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of years ago, and he's like he's

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling his hell, but he seems like he might be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy to go to about this monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Situationally, everyone kind of puts up with him, even though

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<v Speaker 2>like he's not quite sure why he's there. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>quite sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he's there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if you're listening a different Hollywood director than

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<v Speaker 2>the last one who wasn't able to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can reach me, but everyone else can reach me. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting a week, that's not really reaching me. That's just waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so wait,