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Speaker 1: Hey, Brent, how you doing doing?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: And do you think we should talk about these latest tranches?

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Speaker 2: I'd rather not. The word throws me. I just don't

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Speaker 2: I've never understood what it means exactly.

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Speaker 1: I look that up. I googled it.

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Speaker 3: They say that a tranch is a this is what

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Speaker 3: they say a portion, a slice, or a division of

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Speaker 3: a larger hole. But basically I think they're saying it's

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Speaker 2: Okay, but so why do we use it to describe

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Speaker 2: a UFO dump of documents, videos, photos, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's an excellent question. Most people I know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know about your experience. Most people I know call it

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Speaker 3: the UFO dump. Did you see the stuff from the

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I remember when

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Speaker 2: the first tranch came out. I looked and where you

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Speaker 2: go as to war dot gov backslash UFO, which sounds

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Speaker 2: a little ponderous.

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Speaker 3: At ponderous, I think it's a forward slash UFO coming

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Speaker 3: it war is a little strange. I personally think we

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Speaker 3: should try to get that UFO dump dot com if

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Speaker 3: we can, we should. Yes, so let's look into that. Hey, so, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been a busy time. I don't know what you've

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Speaker 3: been up to you. He looks like you're traveling. What's

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Speaker 2: I am traveling, and in fact I'm actually right down

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Speaker 2: the hall in your house. I haven't told you that yet.

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Speaker 1: But you've gotten done.

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Speaker 3: He had this beautiful artifice all set up, and now

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Speaker 3: everyone knows it's just a sham.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so I am traveling, but I think you're

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Speaker 2: doing much more interesting things than I am. You were

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Speaker 2: just on Doctor Phil with Chris Mellan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a trip. And in fact, this is

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Speaker 3: the actual outfit I wore on Doctor Phil. So I'm

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Speaker 3: wearing it again for good.

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Speaker 1: Luck for us, because it was a pretty good show.

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Speaker 3: And Phil, when we did it, had been claiming accurately

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Speaker 3: that he had been given access to this tranch of documents.

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Speaker 2: Early, so number four, the fourth tranch.

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Speaker 3: The fourth transch and he was talking about exclusivity and

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff. And yeah, I guess the only

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Speaker 3: thing that was interesting was that his people, who producers,

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Speaker 3: had given me thirty pages of show notes ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: To take a look at thirty pages.

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Speaker 3: It was I actually like our show notes. I didn't

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Speaker 3: It was just an overwhelming amount. But I feel good

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Speaker 3: it wasn't overwhelming just to me, because after the show,

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Speaker 3: Phil said that he had no actually says it in

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Speaker 3: to art site Hollywood UFOs dot com, you can actually

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Speaker 3: go listen to his show. But he said that he

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Speaker 3: of them, which sometimes is actually like our show, right.

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Speaker 1: We've done that too, show.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Damn, we had fifty five pages.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember doing any of this stuff, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well what was the big takeaway? Did you guys make

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Speaker 3: First, I would say, because Phil can be a controversial

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Speaker 3: He's all about UFOs and UAP and I don't know

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Speaker 3: interesting to hear him make that comment. Now you said, though,

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Speaker 3: But I didn't actually learn about it till off camera,

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Speaker 3: how he actually received the materials. But the highlight for me, Brent,

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Speaker 2: Have some fun with this. Okay. Now, if Trump wrote

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Speaker 2: that in a sharpie, is that an executive order? Now?

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Speaker 3: I take it as an executive order. I think if

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Speaker 3: that's not nothing. And so I wonder if somebody in

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Speaker 3: you've used the phrase as many do ontological shock. If

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet that is the thinking. I would like to

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Speaker 2: like doctor phil He's a fun person to listen to.

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Speaker 2: He seems very smart. But I think he also by

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Speaker 3: He's polarizing right now. It doesn't mean that he doesn't

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Speaker 3: It's just someone that Trump likes.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to throw out Steven Spielberg's name. He's going

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Speaker 2: I would say polarizing, at least within the UFO community.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we should probably.

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Speaker 3: So these are all people who are outspoken and generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: So probably not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the music sector, right, there's some big international names there.

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Speaker 2: Beyonce did oh?

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Speaker 3: As we said, we still don't know exactly what is

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Speaker 3: being disclosed? What before we move beyond that? Though celebrities

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Speaker 3: And besides, I think we're talking about a globally important

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Speaker 3: I am on the edge of my chair, literally on

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Speaker 2: Hit me, Sir Paul McCartney.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, okay, I'm sitting with that for a second.

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Speaker 3: Here all kidding aside. I kind of like it. Think

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Speaker 3: and he's a sir. So that's pretty cool. You don't listen.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned obviously I am a huge Beatles fan. So

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Speaker 3: is my friend George Nap by the way, so from

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Speaker 3: the UFO community, we both though yes on I did

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Speaker 1: He might be perfect well.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned he could write a song for disclosure.

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Speaker 2: This could be the new we are the world. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, who better than Sir Paul to come

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Speaker 2: up with something that rhymes with tranches.

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Speaker 3: Listen if he did, If anybody could do that, Brent,

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Speaker 3: Sir Paul could do that.

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Speaker 1: I like that on so many levels.

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Speaker 3: I guess we should just tell our friends in MI

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Speaker 3: Maybe if Britain and the US intelligence agencies could get

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Speaker 3: hell out of him and he could be that guy. Honestly, Again,

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Speaker 3: if Sir Paul sat down and said, hey, I didn't

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Speaker 3: see this coming for myself, but I've been read in

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Speaker 3: and here's what I've learned. Here's what I've seen. Imagine

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Speaker 3: imagine showing Sir Paul McCartney a craft or a body,

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Speaker 3: or letting him talk to a live creature.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm digging this, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Buying that album.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that I'm buying that album. Hey, everybody,

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