WEBVTT - Segment 3: Mock Draft Monday

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<v Speaker 1>He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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<v Speaker 1>Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Dale Wally. He is Matt Williamson and this

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<v Speaker 1>is to drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, it

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<v Speaker 1>is time for mock draft Monday, madness. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just we just went over Matt Miller's mock draft. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do a seven round mock draft for

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers ourselves. Here. Maybe we can get those same

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<v Speaker 1>three players in the top two rounds for the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt Miller just mocked to the Steelers again, we

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<v Speaker 1>would all take that with our first three picks. It

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<v Speaker 1>was in case he didn't listen, shame on you, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would in second round Harrison the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>second round, Againsale's the corner in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>first um. Quick little nugget for you, though, And that

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<v Speaker 1>Miller mock draft doesn't help my case. But I'm leaning,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least really open to the idea of moving

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<v Speaker 1>from like seventeen to twenty two ish, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because there is a gap in this draft, or if

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<v Speaker 1>I can pick up an extra third or whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be more apt to move down a few spots

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<v Speaker 1>in round one than up. Yeah, but I would also

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<v Speaker 1>be that second round pick, the thirty two, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be very valuable, and I think I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>pick up some extra I think you can move back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five or six spots at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the second round and get those spots and get those

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<v Speaker 1>picks in the mid rounds. I agree. I agree. So

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't done a trade one. I'm not even saying

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<v Speaker 1>we have to in this one or well consider it

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<v Speaker 1>today about that. So we're joining this on Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Focus here because that makes the deem uh, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>the trading easy. And we're rolling. And so at seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Gonzalez went just ahead of us. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>topics where Jalen Carter, Bryce Young, Will Anderson, c J. Stroud,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree Wilson, Miles Murphy, Will Levis, Paris Johnson, Anthony Richardson,

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<v Speaker 1>Devon Weatherspoon, Quentin Johnson, Brian Breesey, Pete Skuransky, Lucas van Ness,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Branchon, Christian Gonzales. No super surprises there, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>up at seventeen. UM looking here at the guys available, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear Porter's name order was not mentioned. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you, I'm not in love with Porter. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like cornerbacks who don't take the ball away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had one career interception. Everybody wants to walk

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<v Speaker 1>him to the Steelers because of course, you know dad

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<v Speaker 1>played for the Steelers, all that good stuff. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't know it's a slam dunk. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a slam dunk, especially how competitive that position is.

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<v Speaker 1>You better be really happy with the corner at seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>if you know one's gonna be there thirty two and

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<v Speaker 1>your expect to. And that's the thing. It's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a deep position this year that I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, and Broderick Jones is still available, that's intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should be in the mix at seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>What other names are jumping out at you, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the top rated players on here according to for

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<v Speaker 1>Football Focus, Michael Mayer, Bi, Jean Robinson, z A Flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Smith and Jigba Anton, Harrison, Nolan Smith, Jordan Addison,

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<v Speaker 1>Broderick Jones, Cam Smith, Joey Porter Jr. O Cyrus Torrence

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner McKee, they got they're way way high on Tanna McKee,

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<v Speaker 1>Trenton Simpson, Antonio Johnson. Um, I think Jones from Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>stands out. Yeah, I think so too, Um, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, there's some second rounds, uh guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I like as well. But we'll take Roderick Jones. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can live with Dan Moore next year too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we don't, right, Yeah, but yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a potential franchise type left tackle. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>scoop him up. Now. We had one trade offer a

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<v Speaker 1>pick seventeen. We have four trade offers a pick thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of my point with that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very valuable pick. Oh, it absolutely is. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>all these gm to retire for the night and think

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<v Speaker 1>about man, I can't believe that the player X are

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<v Speaker 1>still out there. I loved him. He was my twentie

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<v Speaker 1>ran player. Let's give stuff up. Yeah, So the teams

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<v Speaker 1>who were calling the Carolina Panthers who have picked thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind moving back seven spots. Oh no, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be worth our while. Let's see who else is on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, so we get them. We get the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>at forty, the Patriots at forty six, and the Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty. Okay, I'd like to know who's out there though, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys out there right now. You got Tanner McKee,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave uh Eka, the defensive tackle from Baylor, Osilari,

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Carter. I didn't like Andre Carter at all. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a senior Bowl. We need to talk about him because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone the world's rooting for him because he's an Army dude. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get him all the credit in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He is not close to being strong enough. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he looks like a third or fourth round guy

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And I think he has to red shirt

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<v Speaker 1>his entire rookie year. And the reason is the Army

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't train you to squat. They train you to do

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<v Speaker 1>army stuff. You know, it's not conducive to putting weight on.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just so long and lean. He gets around

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<v Speaker 1>by strong guys. Yeah, and he his lower body doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any bubble to it. You know, he's he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in a normal weight program. He's running and doing things

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<v Speaker 1>with his platoon or whatever. They don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>get big and heavy, run for days and days, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not conducid to the football. Josh Downs is there,

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<v Speaker 1>Klijah can see, Jamie Robinson, Drew Sanders, Eli, Ris Cody Match,

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<v Speaker 1>Darnell Right, Mazie Smith, Hayley Ringo, Nathaniel del Emmanuel Forbes,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Campbell, Darnel Washington, Jail Skinner, sharpon a John Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Schmidt's key On ki On White, Um, JIMMR. Gibbs, Sidney Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who I like? Um, So there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys available. It's there's White. Let's listen to the Panthers offer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, let's see what they might offer. I would

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I might jump on key on White chair,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's yeah, yeah, I have no he would be

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite name that you mentioned. Yeah, so if we

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<v Speaker 1>offer them thirty two and they're in thirty nine has

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it, yesty, they have sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>they s well, they're saying absolutely not on thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty one, but they would do. They would absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>do thirty nine and nine three mm hmm. In fact

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<v Speaker 1>has an eight chance to be accepted. We could probably

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<v Speaker 1>get more out of them. I say, we get next

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<v Speaker 1>year's fourth round pick out of them too. We can

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<v Speaker 1>get another pick in this year's draft if we really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to, Let's milk them for something else of six

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<v Speaker 1>or a fifth or something. Let's see, let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>they'll give up one forty seven, because that would be

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<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of that run. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>where we don't have a pick, wasn't where the game

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<v Speaker 1>and they would absolutely do that. Let's offer it up

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<v Speaker 1>or do we want to get We want to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of our pick at two thirty six and try

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<v Speaker 1>to get something a little higher. Is that the last one?

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<v Speaker 1>That's our last pick. I always think that makes for

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<v Speaker 1>good radio, not picking that seventh rounder. Yeah. Absolutely, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see if they'll give us one thirty two instead they

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<v Speaker 1>will get Let's see if we'll we'll take thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>and one thirty two for thirty two and two thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's affair. I mean, if they are, they're in. The

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<v Speaker 1>deal has been deal has been made. They're back on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. Who they taken here, let's see and funny

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<v Speaker 1>at targets, it would make sense. Oh, I gotta hit resume.

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<v Speaker 1>That would help, Okay, So with that pick they took

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Carter who we just talked about. Yuck. Yes, who's

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<v Speaker 1>still all the guys? So Andre Carter, b J L Lari,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh downsaka um Luke Musgrave Collis, you can see Jamie Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>That means both of our guys are still on the

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<v Speaker 1>board here. I think you take the d lineman from

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia tech Um because now we have extra picks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can afford a little bit of a luxury. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>key on Waite is to pick Boom do just throw

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<v Speaker 1>him in the mix on the defensive front, keep your

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<v Speaker 1>pass rush of strength, figure out what to you just

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in. So guess who all who still did? Go?

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<v Speaker 1>An Schmidts John Michael Schmidtz is still available, which had

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<v Speaker 1>a corner. But I really like bringing a left tackle

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<v Speaker 1>and center in the same that are big time guys

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I like that a lot. And we had

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman who can play on the edge for

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<v Speaker 1>us if we need. I like like that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom done, scoop him up. Yeah, and we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait that long for our next page around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet there's a corner that's acceptable. So we're back

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<v Speaker 1>up at eight and I'm gonna take a I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go straight to the cornerback market here and see

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<v Speaker 1>who's available. Jay Lee Jones from Texas A and m

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<v Speaker 1>clark Phillips from Utah. Call you. Blue Kelly from Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>jort Avious Martin from Illinois, Jakoreian Bennett from Maryland. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys are all talented guys. Is Russia there from South Carolina? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Brents is there? Rushes there? There's four names I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Blue Kelly, I like Rush I like Kansas State. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned the six three guy apprentice or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>his name is. Brents Brents. Yeah, let's just take just

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<v Speaker 1>real quick here, take a look at the wide receiver position,

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<v Speaker 1>because wouldn't mind adding another weapon there too at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Rashia Rice is available, good player um as is, Cedric Tillman.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Palmer is still there. I mean, just adding that

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<v Speaker 1>speed element. Yeah, and what else do we still need here?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a look at inside line off ball linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>or a D tackle type or a D tackle type

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<v Speaker 1>Noah Sewel's there, Dory Williams, Cam Jones, Um, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the d T s. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time convincing me to pass on a

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<v Speaker 1>corner because we got Remember now we have another pick

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here at and we just rattled off a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of cornerbacks are going to be available. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play chicken in too long a though with

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<v Speaker 1>no I get it. But uh so the big guys

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<v Speaker 1>available yet Jacqueline Roy, Gervan, Dexter, Kobe Turners, Zach Pickens,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Young, Jonah Tai v I, Jacob Slade. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are running out. Yeah, a lot of deep group. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Pickens, but I like Pickings there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think you keep your fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>He still round in a bit. I'm not gonna bet

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<v Speaker 1>on I don't know, man, I don't want to bet

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<v Speaker 1>on that if that's the only one that you're still

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<v Speaker 1>really like. Yeah, we liked what four or five or

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<v Speaker 1>five cornerbacks? We gotta wait ten picks? Do we think

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<v Speaker 1>with all the corners that went earlier in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>our team's gonna double down into position. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>there was only ten picks to wait, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think half of the picks are gonna be corners. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take pickings. Let's take pickings. We're gonna have two pickings

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<v Speaker 1>on the team. Yeah, that one with Pickett. That won't

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<v Speaker 1>make anything at all. All right, so we're back up

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<v Speaker 1>again here. Now Steve a Vela is still available. This

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<v Speaker 1>is nice. Uh So at cornerback, Jalen Jones, Clark, Phillipsky, You,

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Kell Jr. Tavis Martin. Basically the cornerbacks are all

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<v Speaker 1>still there. Which one do you like best? Probably Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>The cornerbacks weren't touched. Yeah, let's just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>take Kelly. At we get double down, we'd take another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Get an extra pick coming up here. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's an awful idea. I was actually thinking the same thing. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it one twenty. The top available players here, according

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<v Speaker 1>to what they have on them were Byron Young, Cage Stover,

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Evans, an Tonio, Mafi, Colby, Wooden, Jartavious Martin, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Mingo, you got Cedric van Pram. We already took

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<v Speaker 1>a center. We can't do that. The Michigan Center is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Ty Spears? Oh? I like Evans and Spears a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>Kory and Bennett. I might throw spears in the mix.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate it. Raley Moss is there too. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Moss over all those guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking Moss's. You have an extra corner and you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>could he play some safety for it? He just put

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<v Speaker 1>him on the field and let Hi play. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the size of play safety. We have both time. Anyway, um,

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<v Speaker 1>looking here at the let's see what do we like

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<v Speaker 1>there at the last there running and they're running back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested in tight end maybe, Yeah, they're running back,

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<v Speaker 1>went tight end. You're looking at the guy like Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Wile from Wiley from UH Cincinnati, Will Mallory look spoonmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Wiley as as a kind of the gentry replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate that either. Let's go ahead and take it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on that. We haven't drafted a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not, but we did if we did. Resign

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Miller. Yeah, we gotta pick here. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>our last pick at I'll bet you there's a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I like. Let me see year linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking here, so the receiver is available. Michael Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>How about Michael Wilson from Stanford. Yeah. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>taken him a round or two ago, probably boom really well,

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<v Speaker 1>special teamer, special teamer. Yeah, that's a great pick. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we did well. We got. Now what we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>was an off ball linebacker, but I don't care about that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we resigned the Edmons brothers, but we added a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive backs that are big enough. That so okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So our grading this according to Pro Football Focus, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be for taking Broderick Jones. He gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>D plus on Key I'm white. They're a little late

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<v Speaker 1>to the party on him. We gotta beat for trade.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a C for taking John Michael SCHMIDTZ F

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<v Speaker 1>for taking Zack Pickens, a D plus for taking Cayo

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Kelly, a B minus for Rally Moss, and F

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<v Speaker 1>for Josh Wiley, and F for Michael Wilson. Our overall

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<v Speaker 1>draft grapes to C. They must have gotten, had nobody

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<v Speaker 1>to see bowl or done any sort of adjustment. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got that to look great. Gave us F and d

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<v Speaker 1>s and right, well, you know what, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if they think that we took them before we should

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<v Speaker 1>have taken them. Based off of their rankings. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about that. I look at the draft and I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Broderick Jones, kil White, John Michaelis. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the names of the guys we've gotten, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I could live with these guys right now. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. Yeah, very absolutely. You got two outside corners,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a left tackle, a center. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call him a disruptive defensive lineman that will in spot

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<v Speaker 1>duty right off the bat. I'm cool with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I receive Riley. Yeah, I have a problem with that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's actually I think I texted you this

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend or last week sometime. I said, Kean

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<v Speaker 1>Waite reminds me of a bigger version of Bud Dupree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that absolutely, you know, and he might

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<v Speaker 1>be he might be a little bit. He might even

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<v Speaker 1>be a little faster. Yeah, he's ten pounds heavier. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's more athletic than Leal. I mean, he's more

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<v Speaker 1>change of direction, explosive. But you can do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things with them. Absolutely. But that's our mark draft

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<v Speaker 1>for today. On the Draft Monday madness. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take that's gonna do it for today's show, so you

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