1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Hi in Hello football fan, your old pal Dave damaschik here. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damas Check Football Program. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher or NFL 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash podcasts. We look at the world of 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life. Do you Around 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast knows there are thirty two teams in 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hesas and I'm 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: joined by room filled Well. Here I was Mark Sesler, 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and to my right for the very first time, 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. Hey Dan, he has to say hi. First, 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: I can't, and you looked at me and then you didn't. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: What up? Boys? You got thrown off? So thrown off 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: by Colleen being to my right. It's just kind of 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: a different spot. Colleen has always either been in the 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: west spot or the Mark spot. I can't step on 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: Wes's Hey Dan, Yeah, so I'm not gonna do it. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: You tried to pressure me into it. I think that 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: is ever filled in for Greg before. I think I have, 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: but not here. Maybe not Greg. It's like a rock 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: that's been there since last basically exactly. Greg still uh 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: in the motherland, japan Land, not his native but his wife. 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe she was born there, but her family 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is from Japan. Maybe there is a link. There's a 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: strong link her family in that nation, strong enough that uh, 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: they go there on an annual basis, or at least 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: a bi annual basis. There was a photo. There was 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: a photo on Facebook music is it's more and more ridiculous. 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Time is he coming back? I think he's coming back? 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: But there was a photo. Japan's interesting, an interesting place. 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: A photo Greg posted of his his beautiful little girl 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: and then with his wife and then uh, their grandmother 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: or great grandmother. First time Uh that Ellis met the 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: great grandmother. A beautiful photo. But in the back is 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: a TV on and it's like a completely bonkers Japanese 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: game show. It's totally uncomfortable with us discussing this. I 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: predicted I just assumed that any um, any game show, 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: or really any television. That's my idea of Japanese television. 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: It's just bonkers, it's crazy. I would love to do 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: I would love to go there with you and to 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: see what happens. I would I would check out Japan. 43 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: What is the last non American country you visited? And 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not including Mexico or Canada rubbing his sing 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: right now. I was in the Dominican Republic for a 46 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: wedding and jets, so I've actually traveled abroad more recently 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: than anyone in this room. I wouldn't call that a 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: broad very cultured. This is the like in your mileth 49 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: south of Miami. It's in I think it's in between 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Cuba and Florida. Essentially, good job. Give us closer to 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Miami than the Dominican it who spread your wings? It's 52 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: somewhere today is a good show. It's pretty good. I 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: like it a lot. It's good because Colleen's here. It's 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: good because there's fun news to talk about. UH. And 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: we have a new segment UH from you know that 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: we took directly from our friends over at the UH 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: around the NFL subreddit, which everyone should be checking out. 58 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I think they have close to with one thousand UH 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: group members over there now. UH and we like to 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: use it as a resource, UM, you know, for the show, 61 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: because we love to be in touch with the listeners. 62 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: It's a fun page. They have a lot of really 63 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: cool little discussions. I was checking it out the other night. Yeah, 64 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: so check that out, and don't forget about the iTunes 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: challenge hashtag iTunes challenge. UH. Leave comments on iTunes give 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: us some star rating. We're trying to beat the system, 67 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: take down the giant Apple Corp. I had my wife 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: look at the subreddit page simone, and she ought like 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: a first look, she was like, why are you in 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Wes and Dan writing so much on it? Because there's 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: these guess they're picking like icons are avatars of various 72 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: podcast members faces. But I had to explain to her 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that we are not on there almost at all, other 74 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: than West West is West is a presence ambassador comment 75 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: about one today. UM. I showed it to my wife. 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: She didn't care. Well, there was a there was a 77 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: heavy level of not caring in my conversation too, but 78 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: there was a moment of interest quickly quickly, Mark quickly 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: not anyway. The the subreddit um did have the idea 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: and that we're going to actually talk about it today. 81 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Delta Coder was the name of the the user on 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: reddit uh and the the idea was if you don't 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: have an NFL team, Um, you know, who would you pick? 84 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: And uh, perhaps we can help you choose a team. 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is go around the old 86 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: horn here and each kind of nominated team that would 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: be a good team if you are whether it's overseas 88 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: and you're just getting into the game, or if you're 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: someone like Wes who uh you know, resigned as a 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: fan of a team and then maybe he's looking to 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: fall back and loves. You can find love again in 92 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the NFL if you open up your heart. That heart 93 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: is open. Okay, good, all this is going to become 94 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan. I can sort of feel it happening. 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: There are some feelings there. There's a tingling sensation. And 96 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a one night stand you're talking 97 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: this is I'm not a one night stand kind of man, 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: damn it. Uh. So yes, we will, Uh we will 99 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll also do a bunch of news 100 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: and we also we'll have to make it. We're gonna 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: make a phone call at the end of the show, 102 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: uh to somebody who we should check in with. I'll 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: just leave it there, all right, sounds good? Uh? The 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: irishman behind the glass, how are you buddy? Doing great? Dan? 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: How are you? How was your weekend? Oh it's very nice. 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Went to the bat in cages. Yeah, yeah, prepping for 107 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the softball which I still have yet to hear about. 108 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: But you know, that's it's become. You know what's happening. Oh, 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: it's happening. It's happening. It's just I don't know the 110 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: the leadership above me. I can only do so much. 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: I have not. Um, I have not heard back yet 112 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: about the softball team that I'll be managing. Uh. This 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: is what my mother, as I used to say, and 114 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I always sound it was kind of seems like a 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: overtly negative viewpoint in life. But no good deed goes unpunished. 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: What leadership you're talking about, like the civic organizers, It 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: sounds like you're talking in company, but in company shadowing 118 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: big figures that are responsible for kind of getting it 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: off the ground and then you know, essentially handing it off. Uh, 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: they have not handed it off yet. Here we are 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: in early April, so you know, I'm wondering what's going on. 122 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Already came and on exactly so happening. I just want 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: to make sure I had missed try out try it's coming. 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: But all right, let's do some news show me the Money. 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: A little update on that. A lot of people were asking, 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: is show me the Money coming back? Actually no one 127 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: has asked. I've thought about bringing after, of course, successfully 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: bringing back the Dean Scream that was successful. Yeah, I'm 129 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna ride out the Dean Scream through 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: the political season at the very least, and then maybe 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: roll out show Me the Money. I mean, they're talking 132 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: about making a sequel to Jerry McGuire. There's whispers about 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: that on Twitter. Sounds you could be massively upstaged in 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: your attempt here. I think I think Colin Kaepernick is 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: trying to help you to bring back to show me 136 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: the money with his stance to look at you, Brendon, 137 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: pick up the chisels. Colin Kaepernick is still a member 138 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: of the forty Niners and there is a what amounts 139 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: to a stair down going on right now with the 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Reported over the weekend that the Broncos and 141 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: forty Niners have a deal in place, or something a 142 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: structure of a deal in place. The only thing left 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: is the money. Uh Kaepernick. Effective last week, He's eleven 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: point nine million dollar salary for the season is guaranteed. 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: John Elway and the Broncos don't want to pay him 146 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: that much. I think they're willing to pay seven million 147 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: from what we're hearing, and they and the Niners do 148 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: not want to take any of the money back, so 149 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: they guess the maybe Kaepernick takes a pay cut? Should 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick take a pay cut mark to get the 151 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: to get this thing done and start fresh, or is 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: it time to put your foot down and say no, 153 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm not taking a pay cut. Well, I mean my 154 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: take is I know he seemingly or definitely wants out 155 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: of San Francisco, but Kaepernick at this point is not 156 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: necessarily even a starting quarterback or guaranteed of starting more 157 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: than a handful of games the rest of his career. 158 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: So asking him to take a nearly five million dollar 159 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: pay cut, I think that would be a bad move 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: by his agent just to sit there and let that happen. 161 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: You've got to let this thing play out a little 162 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: bit more before you give up that kind of money. 163 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: He may never see that kind of money again. The 164 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: money is guaranteed. I mean, in the NFL, you get 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: players get cut all the time. Nothing's really guaranteed. I 166 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: don't know why he would give that up unless he 167 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: really desperately wanted to get out of San Francisco, because 168 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be on the hook regardless to pay him, 169 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: whether they're paying him all of it and he's just 170 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: sitting on the roster, or they're paying some of it 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: and they're just picking up whatever is left over from 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: whatever team is gonna pay them pay him. So, I 173 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: mean they sort of the four point nine um they 174 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: that might be best case scenario for them. Well he does, 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: he is miserable. He does one out of San Francisco. 176 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: That's what the trade request was for. And you know 177 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: what else isn't guaranteed happiness? Why why be someone were 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: your miserable? You've made thirty million dollars. This isn't us 179 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: making whatever we're making, worried about losing five million dollars. 180 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: It's somebody with thirty million dollars already made. And to me, 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: don't be my opic, don't say, hey, I'm gonna be 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: stick with bad surrounding talent on in a franchise, lost 183 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: off confidence in me? Why not take the long view 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: and go to John Elway's franchise, which is run as 185 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: well as any franchise in the NFL. Turn your career 186 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: around in five million dollars will be nothing once you've 187 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: turned your career around and re established yourself. Let me 188 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: say this too, because it's important to have some context 189 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: about what even what the twelve million dollars salary or 190 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: eleven point nine whatever it is, that is not a 191 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: ton of money for the market for quarterbacks, where even 192 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: an average guy makes about fifteen the studs make twenty plus. 193 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: So to me, I'm starting and I know we should 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: have a ton of faith in Lway, even though I 195 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: don't know if he handled the brock Goss Wilder situation 196 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: the right way. He is really playing hardball here and 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: if he's not careful and this thing just never happens 198 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: because he wants to save the extra five million bucks. 199 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Are you ready to go into the season. Is a 200 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion be in with a a rookie 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that's completely untested, or be Mark Sanchez who's a journeyman. 202 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: Let's face it, I mean that's that's running a pretty 203 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: big risk of blowing up your repeat attempt before whatever 204 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: started well, or see Colin Kaepernick, who now that it's 205 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: March or April, we think we you know, we we'll 206 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: go back. We just watched the Super Bowl game against 207 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens, you know downstairs, and that's a different player, 208 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: the player of last year. It's not worth the kind 209 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: of money he's guaranteed to make this year. But if 210 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: we talk about Colin Kaepernick wanting to go and be 211 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: happy and have the long view, I see where you're 212 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: coming from, West, But at the same time, it's for 213 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: someone that doesn't value you at your current cost. I mean, 214 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: he had Peyton Manning take a pay cut too, And 215 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: meanwhile the Mark Sanchez and the team they're starting, they're 216 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: doing things together, they're starting to go through stuff. You have, Marks. 217 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like time that Colin Kaepernick is wasting. 218 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: If he is going to make the jump and do 219 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: whatever is right for his career and himself, maybe how 220 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: about this. John Owah has evaluated all of these quarterbacks correctly, 221 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: starting with Peyton Manning last offseason, continuing through brock Oswaller, 222 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: and now with Sanchez and Kaepernick. He knows that they're 223 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: not the answer. They're not a solution. They're a patch 224 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and he's got the strong enough roster. And if you're 225 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: a Patch, I wouldn't run to Denver with a five 226 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: million dollar pay cut. I would because it's a chance 227 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: to rejuvenate your career, resurrect your career. Moving on, Roger Goodell, 228 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: the commissioner of the NFL. UH, was that a town 229 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: hall meeting with the Jacksonville Jaguar season ticket holders. I 230 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: didn't think Rog was that plugged in. He's like going 231 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: to local town halls. Ye, maybe maybe soon. Uh. The 232 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: issue of well the playoffs be expanded came up, and 233 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: this was something that was a hot issue a couple 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: of years ago. Last season they tabled the issue. It 235 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: didn't even come up at the annual meeting this past March. 236 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: UH and Goodell had this to say, could you do it? Yes, 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: you could do it from a competitive standpoint. Our competition 238 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: committee said, we think we can do it properly. We're 239 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: still looking at the broadcasting side of it, and then 240 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: there's labor relations side of it too, which you have 241 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: to deal with with with the union. But it will 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: continue to get discussion. It will likely happen at some point, 243 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: but we want to be really cautious because we like 244 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the balance we have, uh and so on and uh 245 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: to make guys, I love the way things are and 246 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: there is. NFL deserves credit for always looking to tweak 247 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: things and make the game better. Doesn't always work out 248 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: and making the game better, but they they don't just 249 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: hold things as they are forever. But thirty two teams teams, 250 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: six teams in each conference, six playoff teams on each side, 251 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: that to me works. I love it. Twelve teams make it. 252 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Why change something that works? Your jets could have gotten in. 253 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: That's why. That's why. Here's the argument for it, because 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't really change a whole lot if you think 255 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: about it, because there would still be four division winners 256 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: in each conference, and then they would just have three 257 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: wild card teams, so only one team would get that 258 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: coveted first round by so you add one more playoff game, 259 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: and then it's sort of like, I just don't think 260 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: it's fair when teams with double digit wins aren't getting 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: in and then there's team by default with five records 262 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: that are playing in the playoffs. Is not fair. It's not. 263 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: If you look at Goodell's full comments, it sounds like 264 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't want it, but he's acknowledging that the owners 265 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: do so it may happen at some point, but he's 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: happy what the way things are. I mean, what is 267 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: not just likely but guaranteed as the playoffs are. The 268 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: playoffs are never going to contract. They're all it's likely. 269 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: It's it's fair to say they're likely going to expand 270 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: because that will happen at some point. Money. But you're 271 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: right if you look at what he's said in it there. 272 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I almost think the headline is a little bit it's 273 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: over selling it a little bit, as West mentioned downstairs, 274 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: because he definitely talks about the competitive balance and the 275 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: fact that the way it is right now is very 276 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: attractive to a big chunk of the people in charge. 277 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: So you know that this has been on the table 278 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: for half a decade. It's not about to happen in 279 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the next couple of months. Uh. Greg Hardy is out 280 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: of work, of course. A got a second chance with 281 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys last year after his ugly domestic violence incident, 282 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: and this week he had an interview is sit down 283 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: interview one on one. I believe the first time we've 284 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: seen this since all this stuff went down. With Adam 285 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Schefter of ESPN Uh, and he had some interesting things 286 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: to say, and I guess interesting is one way to 287 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: put it. Uh, disturbing is another way to put it. 288 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: But here is what he said when asked if he's 289 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: ever um been physically violent towards a women a woman. 290 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I've never put my hand on any woman in my 291 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: whole entire life. No, sir, that's just not how we're raised. 292 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: As you can tell. Like I said again, it's the 293 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: Bible belt referring to where he grew up. It's just 294 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: something that's I wouldn't even say frowned upon, just something 295 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: that's non existent in most southern homes. Okay, So do 296 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: you think he's a sociopath? Do you think he like 297 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: does he just doesn't think that that happened. He perhaps 298 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: is delusional. And I think listen, if you turn on 299 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: any show right now, it's it's just it's Greg Hardy. Uh. 300 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's getting up on the pulpit and coming 301 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: down at Hardy. I think we're all in agreement that 302 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: Greg Hardy's a goon and doesn't seem very bright either. 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about that. But so let's just 304 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this from a football aspect, 305 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: the design or the conceit of this interview. I would 306 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: think his agent was for Greg Hardy to be seen 307 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: in a better light, and it did not go over 308 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: that way. He I mean, he came out very poorly. 309 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: No one's gonna say he came off well at all. 310 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: And my question is, after after it didn't work out 311 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, did this potentially end his career? Was 312 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: it that bad an interview where teams are gonna be 313 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: totally scared off by this guy? I think it did. 314 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: And I think when he was asked, why are you 315 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: still unemployed? And he said, well, making mistakes and right 316 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: now having to learn from them. How are you learning 317 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: from mistakes? When as Michelle Beatle, I love her, she's 318 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: so awesome, she goes on her own network and says, 319 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: why did we give this guy a platform for a 320 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: redemption tour? And he used it to say basically, my 321 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: life has changed. I'm a changed man, but I won't 322 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: even admit what I did wrong. I'm gonna show no rewards, 323 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: no contrition, no repentance, not even He's set up for 324 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: a redemption tour and he didn't take advantage of it. 325 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a redemption tour coming for 326 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: him no matter whether he gets on a team or not. 327 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: But in terms, I think we all agree about what 328 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: he's done and who he is. There's no real even 329 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: debate there in this room, but the idea of does 330 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: this hurt or end his career? I mean, if you're 331 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: going to put a player like this out there and 332 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: have him answer these questions, if you're his agent and 333 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: you're his group of people around him, are you gonna 334 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: go through some trial questions here? You're gonna respond? I mean, 335 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: his own words are the reason that he won't have 336 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: another job because of what he said. And you know, 337 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: he he goes and accuses Ray Rice of X, Y 338 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: and Z and calls himself anocent, innocent person. I mean, 339 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: this is it just feels kind of like the time 340 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: we live in as much as anything else. I mean, 341 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: he's he's made this bed for himself, like he has 342 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: he has to lay in it it. I hate cliches, 343 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: but I mean this is so true, and I hate 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: the fact that he's still talking about it, and that 345 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: he really is still given the opportunity to talk about 346 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: He is absolutely radioactive right now, and this made it. 347 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: It was already bad, and now I think it's even worse. 348 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I would be stunned if he's on a team in September. 349 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: And beyond what happened from the domestic violence angle, we 350 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: gotta win till into his viewpoint of women. When he 351 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: shot out a shot off his mouth about Tom Brady's 352 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: wife and her sister. That's and by the way, Blake 353 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: Bortle's wife too. This is how he views women, all right. 354 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: So that's what's going on with Greg Hardy. See you later, buddy. 355 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: In other news, uh, Aldon Smith, who has had his 356 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: own problems off the field. Uh, he has a job. 357 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: He signed a two year deal with the Oakland Raiders. 358 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported Monday that the deal is worth up 359 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: to nineteen point five million, with eleven million of bass 360 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: salary with the Raiders. Um that will be pro rated 361 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: for the games he's eligible for. Of course, he'll be 362 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: suspended for I believe roughly half the season. Uh for 363 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: a current running past running with the law, I believe 364 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: last August. So Alvin Smith back with the Raiders. It 365 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: was the only place he wanted to play. Uh. Do 366 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: you like deciding West? Yeah? I think it makes sense. 367 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: He won't be able to play until mid November. But 368 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: I think, to me, when I look at the difference 369 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: between a guy like Alden Smith and Greg Hardy is 370 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: to me it's remorse. And we live in a country 371 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: where you get second chances you have to take advantage 372 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: of and admit, look in the mirror, change your life. 373 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: And and from what the Raiders are saying, that's what 374 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: this guy is trying to do. I think it's one 375 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: thing to make mistakes that hurt yourself, and it's another 376 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: thing to make make mistakes that hurt other people. Well, 377 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, he was also nabbed with multiple d 378 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: u I s and that is that The reason that 379 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: he's not Josh Brent or someone else at this point 380 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: in our conversation is because he's lucky and so are 381 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: others that he didn't hurt anyone else. But secondly, like 382 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: he has in the Raiders owner Mark Davis and the 383 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: Davis family, someone that sees him as a family member. 384 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Someone and you know, you thought this was the Niners 385 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: had this stance for a long time. They wanted to 386 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: see him through everything and it came to be too much. 387 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: And he's lucky that there's another team out there. That 388 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: is willing to embrace and give him this chance because 389 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: I think probably at least the vast majority of the 390 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: league would say no to him. I want to believe 391 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: that he changed, like I really do. I want to 392 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: see him succeed and learn, and I really hope he 393 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: does because honestly, it would be great for him, but 394 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: it would really be great for the Raiders too, because 395 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: I really like him. Khalil Mack preservant, I think that 396 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: could really help that defense. In other news, Lashawn McCoy 397 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: uh the bills running back the Philadelphia District Attorney's office 398 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: and now I know that no charges will be filed 399 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: in an alleged incident involving uh McCoy that resulted in 400 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: two injured off duty police officers. Officers in February and 401 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: news really stated there's not enough evidence to meet the 402 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: quote legal threshold to issue charges. What do you think about? 403 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: How is there not? There's a video of it. I mean, 404 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: these police, one of the police officers treat it for 405 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: a possible fractured skull. And all of this was over 406 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: champagne bottles at a terrible club, so to speak. In 407 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's Neck of the Woods. It is it's a it's 408 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: a terrible place. It's super corny and cheesy. And the 409 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: fact that they were there to begin with, they should 410 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: get in trouble for that alone. But this, this is unbelievable. 411 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but the 412 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: Fraternal Order of Police sent out a letter after that 413 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: and it reads with some things that I'll show you. 414 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: But on the back there is a picture of the 415 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia District Attorney, Seth Williams with a giant cross around 416 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: his face like the Ghostbusters caps Seth, What's the deal? 417 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: So on it. He says that he caused Seth Williams, 418 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a season ticket hunting district attorney who refuses to do 419 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: his sworn job. And he also told the cops that 420 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: you can bet he and his friends will go after 421 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: you if you are lucky enough to win the fight, 422 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: if you were in this situation in the future, especially 423 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: when when the National Democratic Convention comes to town. Um. Yeah, 424 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: And not to mention he has a point. If you 425 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: look at Seth Williams Twitter, which I you guys can 426 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: look it up online, he has all these pictures of 427 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: him and Eagles players Kelly. He always goes on the 428 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: radio station there. Yes, so you can tell that this 429 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: is a major, major thing in Philadelphia. Wow, I have 430 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: had a fractured school. Have you me too? Wait? Are 431 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: we said? Are we teasing the Fractured Skull podcast? The 432 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Elephant Man. I looked like I had like an egg 433 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: that you would crack under my school. I got hit 434 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: in the head with a baseball bat. Feel it goes 435 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: from like the my eye all the way. It's like 436 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: cracked to the back of my school. And if I go, 437 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: if I like I'm doing a headstead or something, you 438 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: can see the crack in my head. It's so weird. 439 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: Or if I get what did that happen? I get 440 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: mad at like the crap that's kind of bad. Yeah, 441 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: wait when did that happen? Oh? I was like probably twelve, 442 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: and somebody was doing like a swing and just watched 443 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: they were practice swinging with an aluminum bat, and I 444 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm just gonna you know, can you 445 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: hold up a second? And I don't think she heard me. 446 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: And she was one of the best hitters on the team, 447 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: and she went back and just cracked right into I'm 448 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: not letting my children out of tackle football. Fifteen years old. No, helmet, 449 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: no helmet, knee to the hit, concussion, didn't feel concussed, 450 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: just woke up the next day and there was like 451 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: an inch between my skin and my skull, an inch 452 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: of looked like the element man. Well, yes, the Fractured 453 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Skull podcast coming up later this summer. And by the way, 454 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy uh stress the word shady uh not out 455 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: of the woods in the NFL, because he could still 456 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: face a discipline, including a suspension under the league's policy 457 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: for what is it behavioral or what is the personal 458 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: personal conduct? Thank you guys something or William So we'll see, 459 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that, but Lea Shawan McCoy 460 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: will not be facing charges. Finally, let's move off the 461 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: blotterer page. Big Ben Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers quarterback. While he's 462 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: had his issues as well, but let's talk about football 463 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: podcast he has. You know, Wes. I don't know if 464 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: anybody's noticed. West's body is tighter than it's been in 465 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: several years. It is great. He's fitting into clothes that 466 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: were in his closet for months and months. Um. He 467 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: is looking better than ever forty and feeling fresh right looking. 468 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I bring that up because maybe Big Ben's on the 469 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Chris Westling diet diet because he has lost fifteen pounds 470 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: on a quote high cardio workout plan. It's always been 471 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: a big boy as we know. Uh, but maybe he 472 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: got a little too big last year when he had 473 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries. He was not able to work 474 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: out at all. Really, So I don't know if the 475 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: team said, hey Ben, let's let's uh, you know, cut 476 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: back a little bit, or he made the decision to 477 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: limber up. He's getting a little older now he's thirty 478 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: four years old. He has shed fifteen pounds. West I 479 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: would like to drop some weight, So take me through 480 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: your plan for weight loss in two thout, I didn't 481 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: really have a plan, as you know, I tore my 482 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: rotator cuff. Yes, when I moved to l A, I 483 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: was in the best shape I've been in since my 484 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: mid twenties, and then I tore my rotator rotator cuff 485 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: plane softbot could not lift weights for a year and 486 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: a half. So I put on weight and now I'm 487 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: just lifting weights again and working out. I mean, you're 488 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: now almost exploding out of that shirt for different reasons. 489 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: What a body don't don't make Patrick jealous. I think 490 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: that's happened. You have made. This is gonna be on 491 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Patrick's whiteboard. Dan has a new mailman, a new mail 492 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: person's body to, you know, take notes on and comment on. Well, 493 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like West is right next to me 494 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: all the time, Patrick, I only get to see every 495 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: once in a while and on Facebook and Twitter. Anyway, 496 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: body update right now? Big Ben losing fifteen pounds. I mean, 497 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: like he's a huge dude, likes is that really him? 498 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: No matter what he weighs, it always looks like he's 499 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: got like three extra chins. It's like that's Promanti Brothers 500 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: right there. As of all the quarterbacks, a fat face. 501 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: You know, don't don't get personal just because he didn't 502 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: go to the Browns you had a chance to. I'm 503 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: just making an observation. I cannot think of another quarterback 504 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: that has at times, as you mentioned, multiple chins like 505 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: Big Ben. He really seems to fluctuate, become very puffy 506 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: and then go back into less puffy. Knows, fellow puffy person, 507 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to he's an everyman. Big Ben isn't every man? Okay, Well, 508 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: now we're starting to hone in on your definition of that. 509 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Cumberland finally formula of the Jets. Comby has signed 510 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: a one year deal the Chargers. Godspeed, come be best 511 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: of luck to you. I like that. It's a good 512 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: landing spot for you to jump start your career. And 513 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, let's get 514 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: into it. No sense wasting time. Uh. You know, if 515 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: if you didn't have a team, who would be a 516 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: good team to pick? Uh? In the NFL today? Um, 517 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you know this is whether you're overseas or you're in America. 518 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: You just you know, I need a team to follow. 519 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: It's time I need a new team to follow. Maybe 520 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: maybe you divorced your former team like Chris Westling did. 521 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: But let's lay out some options to the best of 522 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: our abilities in our opinions. Uh, and Mark will start 523 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: with you. Why don't you nominate a team? To anybody 524 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: out there listening that needs a team, nominate one for us. 525 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: This was really hard because I want to cling to 526 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: franchises that have been consistent and good for like the 527 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: last fifteen twenty years, because you know that's going to 528 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: continue to a large degree. But I'm gonna take a 529 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: risk here, I'm gonna go Jacksonville Jaguars for reasons. Think 530 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: about them, and I'll tell you why. For me, it 531 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: starts with do you believe in the owner? Yes? I do? 532 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Is he patient? Is? Because I, like I just said, 533 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: I think he's patient. I think that he's he really 534 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: really seems to have a vision for what the end 535 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: where the NFL is going, and also enough patients to 536 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: keep his coach and jam around and we're starting to 537 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: see the rewards they have to win. But if you 538 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: want to jump on a team now, I think if 539 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: you want to catch the wave where you've got a 540 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: good young quarterback, a lot of young talent, it might 541 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: be the right time now. Two years ago that would 542 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: have been a rough ride. But that's that's my thing 543 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: is get if you want. Well, I'm just saying up 544 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: until now, it's not what I'm selling. What I'm selling 545 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: is from here down. And I will say that this 546 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: about the owner shot con he was definitely head of 547 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: the curve with the pools in the stadium, in the 548 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: in the second deck all American sports. Owner is the 549 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: most important factor. I totally agree that, uh it is 550 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: that is a bold pick because they have not been 551 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: successful in many years, but now there is talent there. 552 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: But we have to see because it could just as 553 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: easily go the other way, where if you pick the 554 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Jags and they have another Jag season, they're probably gonna 555 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: fire the GM the ability or not. What we've seen 556 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: in the last few years, they haven't done anything. Fire 557 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: the coach, and then the quarterback that you're that's promising 558 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: has a new coaching staff and a new offense to learn. 559 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: So it's a little it's a risky move. It is 560 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: certainly risky because they haven't proven anything that I've just 561 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: suggested yet. Big risk, big reward. I was sort of 562 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: thinking along the same lines as you with my pick. 563 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: I do like Mark that you are always team Jaguar 564 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: no matter what I'm trying. And it was a bold 565 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: enough pick that I need to get up and leave now. 566 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: That is that is a way to go out, and 567 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: it's not out of disdain for the show. I have 568 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: an appointment to to get to. Do you want to 569 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: give us a little a little more detail? Not really, 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: because I'm honestly running late to get there, so I'll 571 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: provide more detail later. All right, Well, okay, goes. Mark 572 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: has a walk off right there, a little walk off 573 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: gets behind the jags and walks out. You know what 574 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: I could there's another point that you used to defend 575 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: this pick too. If you look at the perfect example 576 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: of just an alien landing and being lucky to get 577 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: like nineteen seventy one Steelers would be perfect. They were 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: over thirty nine in their history, the worst run operation 579 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: in the league, and then they go on a dynasty 580 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: and they've been great ever since. If you get into 581 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: the ground floor, like the foothills of a of a franchise, 582 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: like you are blessed as a fan, I think that 583 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the key to this assignment though too. 584 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: It's like getting the team just before and you need 585 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: to see enough in the tea leaves to predict it, 586 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: and you don't want to me And when we get 587 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: to my pick, I'll get into a little more specifically, 588 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: but you don't want to pick it. You don't want 589 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: to pick a team where it's too easy or you 590 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: know what, I'll save that for when I get into it, Wes, 591 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: why don't you go with yours? Well, I've got a 592 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: lot of guidelines here, and you've mentioned a few. Let 593 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: me go over. First of all, I want a team 594 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: with some legacy. I would not take the Jaguars because 595 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: they really don't have any legacy. I want a team 596 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: with some legos. Like the NFL has been around for 597 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: almost a hundred years. I want to nod to that tradition. 598 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: No dome teams, teams bad owners are about retractable domes. 599 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll allow it. Okay, so really actually ruling out. I 600 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: rule out Lions, Saints, Falcons, and Colts. Falcons have a 601 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: new stadium, Okay, so we can Cults have attractable bro 602 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: but they never open it. What's up with the Vikings 603 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: new stadium that's going to be retractive? Okay, well let's 604 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: get hung up at the dome. But go ahead. No 605 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: bandwagon teams, which means Seahawks and Panthers are out. Got you. 606 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: I have the same exact no irredeemable fan bases, which 607 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: means the Cowboys are out and Vikings subreddit makes makes 608 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings and obviously the Patriots they're out as well. 609 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: Patriots and Broncos are out because of the Throne of 610 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: East factor, right, but also the watchability. Chargers and Chiefs 611 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: are out uniforms, the boat Buccaneers are out. Watchability Chiefs 612 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: and Charges are out no New York teams as they're 613 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: obnoxious media covering, no franchise, no franchise thieves like in 614 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: the Night the Ravens. Ravens are out for stealing the Browns. 615 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Cults are out for stealing the Ravens or for stealing 616 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: the Cults from Baltimore. I'm down to like I'm down 617 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: to Packers, Cardinals, Bears, and Raiders. Okay, and your pick. 618 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm really tempted to go with the Raiders because of 619 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: a nod. No, I'm tempted. I'm gonna because they have 620 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the seventies early eighties Raiders for a decade, or the 621 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: most colorful team in NFL history. To me, there are 622 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: outlaws living on the edges side kind of think I'm 623 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: a bit of an outlaw. I don't know. Al Davis 624 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: is the most dynamic owner in history. I would love 625 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: to see like that whole thing come back. The NFL 626 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: is more fun when the Raiders are fun. But I'm 627 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: going with the Packers because of their tradition, They're gonna 628 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: be good and because only in the NFL would would 629 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: a city that has eighty thousand people be allowed to 630 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: survive and frankly, like Mark said, it comes down to 631 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: the owner, and the Packers have the best owner in sports. 632 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: The people you just I mean that's a great line. 633 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great line, West, but they I 634 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: mean it's only really it's like a figurehead. Really, I 635 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: mean they're not who's the owner. They have a board, right, 636 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: and it's obviously well run, but it's still you know, 637 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: it's a board. It's not like literally like you know, 638 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Joe Blow and the bar is like and this year 639 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: we're taking a tackle in round two, right, but he 640 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: owns like a dollar thirty worth of the franchise. It 641 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: is something. I here's here's why that's a bad choice, West. 642 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: And I loved your logic and I like the Raiders too. 643 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: They were a finalist for me as well, So colle 644 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: and you've got to really sell hard with all ready. 645 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: The reason why West that is not a great choice 646 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: is is this. It goes back to the football guys, 647 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: and uh, you had Brett Farve from to two thousand 648 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: and seven and then outrageously you end up with Aaron 649 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers from two thousand eight until two thousand twenty or 650 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be. There is just to me. There's 651 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: no way the gods smiled down upon that franchise for 652 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: perhaps decades after Aaron Rodgers. They're not gonna get another quarterback. 653 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: It could be forever they used up their QB karma. 654 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: You know that's just like your opinion. Man, thank you 655 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: for that drop branding. Everything else I liked about it. 656 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: While you believe in the football god, you know very 657 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: well that I am football agnostic and I pay no 658 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: attention to any of that. I believe. Well, maybe this 659 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: is we're steering into theology podcast a little bit here, 660 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: which is coming up later this summer only on NFL 661 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. But yeah, I like everything else about it. 662 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: I just don't know if the gods will give them 663 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: another quarterback after Aaron gets old. You know. It's a 664 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: smart organization though too. It is. It isn't Ted Thompson. 665 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. There's a lot of reasons 666 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: if you're if you're like an American trying to pick 667 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: a premier league team, you don't want to go pick 668 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: man Man you Manchester United. You want to pick an 669 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 1: underdog like the city of Green Bay, where football means 670 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: everything to that fan base, like in New York and 671 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: l A there's so many things to do Green Bay. 672 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: You need football, all right, West, it was a good sell. 673 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean you felt just short, in my opinion, by 674 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: completely underestimating the football gods. Because I'll tell you who 675 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: is the team, and I have the this is I 676 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: have personal experience. I've had a front row seat for 677 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: my entire Lifets. Of course, not let me. These are 678 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: biground rules. Okay, let me. I'm ruly out any team 679 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: with five or more titles. So the Steelers, the Cowboys, 680 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: the Niners out. The Patriots are out because they're the Patriots, 681 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: so many reasons. The Patriots, I'm rually out any Star 682 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: Cross franchise. Basically, if you were a top five team 683 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: in my pain rankings last summer, you're out. So the Browns, 684 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: the Jets, listen. I'm a Jets fan. I was born 685 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: into it. It's built character in my life. But I 686 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: would never wish it upon anyone. And I actually had 687 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: a thought when my son was born in two thousand fourteen, 688 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: should I steer him away? I still haven't decided, because 689 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: it's a tough life. So Brown's, Jets, Bills, Lions, and 690 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: Vikings do not get behind those teams because there's something 691 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: in the water with those franchises, stay off the bandwagon West. 692 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: Just like you said, Seahawks and Panthers both out. So 693 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: it came down to two teams for me, the Raiders again. 694 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: And I won't explain the reasons because Colin, I'm sure 695 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: you have many of your own. But I went with 696 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: the Giants, the Giant, the New York Giants, and this 697 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: of Manchester United of the NFL. Absolutely not that would 698 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: be and that would be another that would be the 699 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: Patriots obviously, man you in this and the Cowboys with 700 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Giants have never been a dynasty. The Giants, 701 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: that was never a dynasty they want. I don't know anyway, 702 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: let me just make my point. So what I was 703 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: saying is I have had a front row seat for 704 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: my entire our childhood and adolescents. Everyone around me was 705 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, and I was always jealous because the Giants, 706 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: they might not be the most exciting franchise, but they 707 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: they have rock solid leadership when we go back to 708 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: the ownership, how they run their operation, and they also 709 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: have a winning culture. Even even though they've never been 710 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: had the dynasty type runs. They win every you know, 711 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: ten fifteen, years they've now they've gotten four Super Bowls, 712 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: they've won, they've been to six, so and they always 713 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: seem to be in the mix every couple of years. 714 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: They they are a team that's they know how to 715 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: do it. And it's as much as it bothers me 716 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, I have to say it's a 717 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: solid fan experience because it's a good fan base, a 718 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: loyal fan base, a one of the historic NFL teams. 719 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: They've had success, but not in an obnoxious way. And 720 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: they have ownership that you can trust, so even when 721 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: Eli gets old and Odell Beckham you know, goes bolts 722 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: and free agents, so you trust that they're gonna put 723 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: it together. For me, the Giants are really maybe they're 724 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: not the most exciting sexy pick, but the safe pick 725 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: if you want to have a team to follow. And 726 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: also it's a New York team, and it's a beautiful 727 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: city in a great state. New York is a beautiful city. 728 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: But I just it gives me a rash the way 729 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: that the media covers all New York teams and the 730 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: Giants since I've been watching football since I was knee 731 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 1: hi to a June bug, are the most boring team 732 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, they're boring. I mean, it's cold there, 733 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: so you gotta sit through those games, but most cities 734 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: have I mean, and I agree, I agree. But until 735 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: I went to the Super Bowl this year and sat 736 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: in San Francisco and watched that game in like perfect weather, 737 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is really nice. But you're 738 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: not gonna pick your team based on well not of 739 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: course I'm not, all right, but my my first condition 740 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: also had to do with Bandwagon. I mean, nobody, nobody 741 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: can ever accuse you of being a Bandwagon fan if 742 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: you go with the Raiders right now, unless it was 743 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: the seventies early right, right, but right now, and this 744 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: is your team that you pick. Um, you can't be 745 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: a Broncos fan just because they just won, Patriots, all 746 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: the all the teams that you had just mentioned. Um. Also, 747 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders haven't made the playoffs in thirteen years. Right now. 748 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: They're building, but it looks like they're going up, and 749 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: it's like if you all of a sudden hit and 750 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: for the first time in thirteen years, people are gonna 751 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: go crazy. That's a great team to catch on with. 752 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Not to mention, you do have an excuse to come 753 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: to California or go to Mexico City to watch them 754 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: next year play the Texans. That's I dream about going 755 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: to Mexico City, right, that was one of the most 756 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: beautiful places in the world. Come all right, But um, 757 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: the fact that they were seven and nine last year, 758 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: they weren't terrible and you're very far away from the 759 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: Tony Sperano gimmicky things that were going on before exactly 760 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: you know what to deal with that. Plus, um, you 761 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: get to wear black. It's good colors. The downside is 762 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: you have to hang out with Raiders fans, But you know, 763 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I think it'll be okay. There's some nice way. Raiders 764 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 1: fans are an intimidating fan base. If you are part 765 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: of that group, then then that's cool. And I get 766 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: that being from Philadelphia. It's the same type of thing 767 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: the Raider. This is what the Raiders have going from 768 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: cool name, cool fan base, great scheme. They're an up 769 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: and coming team. They're not there yet. They seem to 770 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: have a QB in place. Mark talked about the importance 771 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: of having stability. Certainly, you cannot argue that Reggie mackenzie 772 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: hasn't had a chance to rebuild this outfit. I love it. 773 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: I love Khalil Mack, mar Cooper. He could argue that 774 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: they have the most colorful, distinctive persona in NFL history, 775 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: the Outlaws. I love that. We shouldn't confuse Al Davis 776 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: with Mark Davis a number of levels. I just you know, 777 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: so it's not like you're gonna assume they're gonna be 778 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: the swashbuckling Raiders of old. But it's still yes, I'm 779 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: with you on that. Yeah, I'm comfortable with my pick. Hey, 780 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: you know what else? Legacy Frank Gifford and the New 781 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: York Giants love if Yeah, remember what Chuck bed narracted 782 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: to him concrete? Do you know the man just passed 783 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: away Leans really Philadelphia today? Yeah? I know, I know. 784 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: So there you have it. Mark nominates the Jaguars, West, 785 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: the Packers. I nominated the Giants, Colleen the Raiders. But 786 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: I'll say this, we all had feelings about the Raiders, 787 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: and I believe Mark did too. He did. I feel 788 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: like the Raiders might be the consensus pick here with 789 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: they were all in our final three, so that's got 790 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: to count for something. To keep that in mind. So 791 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: if you are looking for a team and you don't 792 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: want to be on a bandwagon. You want to get 793 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: involved with the a team of the legacy and some 794 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: real hope for the future and some badass UNIFI say 795 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: this too. If I ever do another long form I 796 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: think the Raiders and the Al Davis years could be 797 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: at the heart of it. I like the sound of that. 798 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: I would read it. Al Davis has the best quotes 799 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Just phenel, you got to do that. 800 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you the story about the owner 801 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: who sent a parrot at the front door of the 802 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: owners meetings? This is when al Davis was suing the NFL. 803 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: Another NFL owner bought a parent trained to say you, 804 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: Al David, pat did at the front door of the owner. Wow, 805 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: I think we need to do that. Paul Brown was 806 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: a car. How much is a parrot? I don't know. 807 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: We should do it, let's all. I think that's one 808 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: of the greatest stories of sports history. That's I'm imagining 809 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: that it worked perfectly as well. Like the parrot talked 810 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: on command, said it to everyone that it walked by. 811 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: That could be the mascot here. We could just have 812 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: a parrot in here. Can you imagine a parrot and 813 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: a put down contest with Al Davis. All Right, before 814 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: we go, guys, um, I don't know if you guys 815 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: caught the finals of the n C Double A men's 816 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: basketball season. What's that? That is college hoops? And it 817 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: was I know you're not a big fan West, but 818 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: it was one of the better games in recent memory. Wolfie. 819 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: I know as a Philadelphia native seeing Villanova Viva take 820 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: the title for the first time since nineteen eighty five. 821 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: A three pointer. Uh, A name that will live forever 822 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: in uh Philly sports law law lore. Yeah, thank you. 823 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: What's his name again, Jenkins? Yeah, han't even lived twenty 824 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: four hours. Well, I love that. Everybody thought that Ryan 825 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Archie Diakano. It was like Archie Diakano. They thought his 826 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: name was first and last, like, not like everybody's like Ryan. 827 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: Who's Ryan? So it was a class, instant classic and uh, Unfortunately, 828 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: if there's a winner in those type of classic games, 829 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: there's got to be a loser. It was the University 830 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: of North Carolina and and in a crushing, you know, 831 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: turn of events and fate, the favorite team collegiate team, 832 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: and I believe the alba mater of David Eally, our 833 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: desk editor, downstairs is who The last time we heard 834 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: from him on this show. Uh, you know it was 835 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: his beloved Carolina Panthers going down in flames in Super 836 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty. So maybe we'll I don't know. It's a 837 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: cruel to give him a phone call just to see 838 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: he's on a bad run. I think he should just 839 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: check to see how he's doing. Drives off the attention 840 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: simultaneously though. Okay, so, hey, irishman, do you think we 841 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: can get called down to the desk and let's see 842 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: if we can get in touch with him. I hope 843 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't left yet for the day news. Hi, can 844 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: we please speak with David Eally? Please speak? This is 845 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: Dan hands around the NFL Podcast. Dan hands us to 846 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Yeah, that's me, but I don't know 847 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: that guy sounds like a Jet fan. This is swiky. Great, 848 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: let me hear your name it real quick. I can't. 849 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that for you. I couldn't care 850 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: less about that. Very good. Let me get you over 851 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: to David Eally again. It was Eally, who's had an 852 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: active game? David, Hey Eally, what's up? It's uh the 853 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: old suser upstairs? Hey, how are you fine. Um, now 854 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: it's time to talk about it now. Of course, Dave, 855 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: you have the champagne bottle. Uh, take us a little 856 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: bit through the process. Last night before Jenkins hit that three. 857 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Okay, So, um, I was at my apartments, 858 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: not in the news room this time. It was me 859 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: and two other friends who both with to North Carolina, 860 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: and um, the sime a little more of a party. 861 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: So there's some cocktails involved, and uh, we're a little 862 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: there's some nerves and then we're all standing on page 863 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: at the three and we're feeling pretty good about overtime. Yeah, 864 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,479 Speaker 1: And at this point, where's the champagne bottle? For those 865 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: that don't remember, Mr Eally had purchased the bottle of 866 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: champagne and kept it in the office, a risky move 867 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: with hru to pop. When the Panthers won the Super Bowl, 868 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: he kept it refrigerated, hoping that he could use it 869 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: for this game. At this point, where is the champagne 870 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: bottle in my fridge? And you're feeling good? At this point, 871 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of lost. I don't know what to 872 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: do because it was it's a nice balls champagne, it's 873 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 1: sparkling rose to be specific you. I'm a fan of Rose. 874 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: I can't help it, and I don't want to waste it. 875 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: But at the same time as I feel it might 876 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: be cursed. Um No, I don't know what to do it. 877 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: It does feel uh like a cursed bottle at this point. 878 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: And Mark and we were talking before he called, you know, 879 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: we don't. This isn't a call to rub it in, 880 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than the sports fan that rubs 881 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: in a loss. To a die hard fan, It's more like, 882 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: how you doing, buddy? Yeah, Okay, I guess. Uh, I'm 883 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: I guess. I feel lost. I feel like things don't 884 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: make sense. My birth days on Saturday, so I mean 885 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: to put a little downer on the week. Yeah trying. 886 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying. I'm searching. Okay, how about this? Can 887 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: you do you have any questions? I mean, I am 888 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: on the complete opposite end of things. So, Elie, I'm 889 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: really sorry, but being from Philadelphia, it was amazing to 890 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: see Villanova and that didn't help it. Does that make 891 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: it worse fandom? Are you well? I actually I covered 892 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: the team when all of those guys freshman. I've covered 893 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: them a couple of times in the tourney. Yeah, okay, 894 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's fine, all right, and um, 895 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: all right, before we let you go, David, and you 896 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: obviously you seem like you're okay. I watch you to 897 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: power rank the following losses. Okay, okay, power rank these losses. 898 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 1: One being the worst loss, three being a terrible loss 899 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: but not the worst. The Carolina Panthers loss in Super 900 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty. Alright, Uh, the University of North Carolina is 901 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: lost in the championship game. And her because are you 902 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: talking about the movie losing the off here? Yeah, tell 903 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: us about that. Um, let's see number one Panthers super 904 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty. Um. I mean I was twenty three at 905 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: the time I got dumped, so it's probably for the best, right. 906 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: So then let's transition to you. It's weird that you 907 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: still think about it, right, Well, I do when you 908 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: bring it up. Sorry, So yeah, we'll transition to the 909 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: last night's it's pretty raw right now, and then yes, 910 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: sure three three can be the breakup. Well, I don't 911 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: believe any of that. I mean, we we can, we can. 912 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I might not believe it either, but 913 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: who knows what That's what I'm telling myself at least, 914 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: and I will I'll say this too, we alad, and 915 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm being honest and West you know this, I like, 916 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, whatever is good for the podcast. I like to, 917 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, go down that Avenue. So as the game's developing, 918 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it would be pretty have fun to call 919 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: Eally after another crushing loss. But then I thought about 920 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: a little more and I said, well, but Eally is 921 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: a good dude, and the Panthers loss was bad, and 922 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: you know the college girlfriend that hurt. It would be 923 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: good if you got you know this. But in the 924 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: back of my mind, he said, no, you know what, 925 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: this feels like they're gonna pull the football on you again. 926 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get Charlie Brown. Well, it's only they haven't 927 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: won Champleges in the past, so it's not like I 928 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: have seen I have seen before in my life. And 929 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: and un got called for everything. I mean, there were 930 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: so many fouls. Yeah, Philidelphia, No Philly team wins anything ever. 931 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: So alright, it's finally we at least respect Santon in Charlotte. 932 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: That's an old bit, really, you know, all right, has 933 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: been a great It's been a great chat. Daville. You 934 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: have to put this champagne on ice. Maybe maybe the 935 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: Phillies have a big I think Tony Sperano and bury 936 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: the ball you're gonna bury? Oh, I like that idea. 937 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: It's cursed. Bury the champagne. Don't drag it to another 938 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: important sporting event, please. No. I think you should travel 939 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: to a Pacific island and throw it into a hollowoad 940 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: out volcano from whence you came. Yeah, some type of 941 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: grand gesture might be the best move. But have a 942 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: baseball team, so at least this summer should be fine. Oh, 943 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: you know you should do. You should travel up to 944 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: Oakland and literally bury the bottle next to the ball, 945 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 1: Berano's ball. That's a great idea. I like that. That 946 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: may be a good like VOD segment, good, good call, 947 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: good internal lincou too. Alright, David Ealely downstairs desk editor. 948 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: Sounds like he's hanging in there after another crushing, crushing setback. Personally, 949 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 1: you're hanging there, but it gets better, all right, thanks, 950 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: all right, that's it. I know, I'm sorry, it's it 951 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: was a big night. It was a really good game. 952 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the best n C 953 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: Double A finishes i've ever seen. To be fair, she 954 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: has waited thirty one years for that, and Drexel is 955 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: never going to be anywhere in the sporting scene, so 956 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean I have to there isn't a lot of 957 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: Selenova is the only one I can really root for. 958 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 1: Malik Rose. I love Malik Rose. Alright, well, congratulations, I'll 959 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: take it. Fox on your big win the Villanova Wildcats 960 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: the two thousand Double A champions. We will be back 961 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday with our second show of the week. Uh, 962 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what the show is gonna be, like. 963 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: We haven't even talked about it at all, but I'm 964 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: going to give it a pre show grade of a minus. Wow. Yeah, 965 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: just highest ever pre show. Yeah, a lot of people 966 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: are pumped up now thinking about it. All Right, that's it. 967 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. CONTI Fox for stopping back. Yes, 968 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: of course, this is great having you. Uh, you're you're 969 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: quite a treat. Thanks. That was weird, al right, it's 970 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: a weird way to end the show. I know, I 971 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: feel like my awkwardness is rubbing off on you. That's you. Yeah, 972 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting to my right. It's it's a little too close. 973 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: It's it's changing things I feel like this has been 974 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: a problem the entire show. Yeah, it's time. Let's let's 975 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: just move forward. That's one collective unit. This is dan 976 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 1: Ass signing off four. We're okay, right, I think we're 977 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna be okay for the Quiet Storm, The Mailman, Condie Fox, 978 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: the only Rishman behind the glass. It's till Thursday.