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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Milman of the Action Network. I'm live

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Speaker 1: from my Tommy John home studio, and I'm joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my co host, my companion, Mike Capadre, my

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Speaker 1: BFF professional vetter, Simon Hunter Ello.

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Speaker 2: Simon Chad, How are we doing, brother, dude?

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Speaker 1: I'm so psyched for today's show. We are going hardcore football, hardcore,

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Speaker 1: free agency, hardcore draft. We are joined by one of

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Speaker 1: of the swellest people in all of sports media, the

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Speaker 1: pride of the Wesleyan University Cardinals, my neighbor here in

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Speaker 1: West Harford, Connecticut. Welcome back to the show, Field Yates.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be on. It's kind of like an

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Speaker 3: annual tradition. Now, I guess after you do it twice,

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Speaker 3: an annual tradition, because if memory serves, the last appearance

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Speaker 3: was around this time of the year last year, and.

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Speaker 1: Since then we had you on, didn't we have you on?

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Speaker 1: In August?

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Speaker 3: You know, everything is everything blur.

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Speaker 1: Just maybe you had just injured your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, you know what, I gotta be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: that shoulder. They say that the biggest issue is, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, the actual like the capacity to come back

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Speaker 3: to one hundred percent with your shoulder. I just think

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Speaker 3: it's clouded my memory. Everything is a blur over the

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Speaker 3: last six or seven months since suffering one is considered

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Speaker 3: by many the single dumbest injury in the history of

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Speaker 3: sports media, just in sports in general.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'll tell you a story from last night. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that'll make you feel so much better. So I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to my son, my eighteen year old son. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Bears. Of course during the day as he's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be in school. You know, he's a second

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Speaker 1: semester senior, so he's not paying too much attention right now.

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Speaker 1: He's just texting me about the Bears trade for Joe Toney,

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Speaker 1: which we are going to dig into. When I mentioned

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Speaker 1: to him while I'm making dinner and he's hanging out

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Speaker 1: with me, that were having you on the show today,

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Speaker 1: and my kid says, oh, I think he's friends with

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Speaker 1: our neighbors. I saw them once and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about sports and they mentioned him and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is. I've seen Field at their house and he

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Speaker 1: with Field, and I said, I said, I said, no,

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Speaker 1: he's young, he's better looking, we're famous. It's just going

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Speaker 1: to make me feel bad about myself. And then I

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Speaker 1: did tell him that we saw you and your beautiful

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Speaker 1: family at dinner one night and you had your young

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Speaker 1: kids at the dinner tables about a month ago. You

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Speaker 1: had one kid in your lap, one kid was running

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Speaker 1: we kind of felt bad about it. That looks miserable.

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Speaker 1: We would not trade places with you, no matter how

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Speaker 3: I can remember that instance very well, and what I

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Speaker 3: will say is, as turns out, I'm once again by

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Speaker 3: myself right now with my kids. My wife doesn't travel often,

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Speaker 3: in the same place. I learn my lesson that time.

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Speaker 3: I thought, hey, you know what, I've got both kids

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Speaker 3: take them out to dinner. That was a poor decision.

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Speaker 1: number one. Yesterday was a huge day of news in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. DK Metcalf wants a trade the Bears trade

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Speaker 1: for Joe Toney. But the biggest news to me, Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby signed a three year, one hundred and five million

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Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. You know, there's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of turnover in Las Vegas, so they haven't even

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Speaker 3: had a lot of coaching and general manager changes in

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Speaker 3: that time. Josh McDaniels and Dave Zigler were replaced eventually

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Speaker 3: by Antonio Pearce and Tom to LESCo, and then they

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Speaker 3: decided to make the shift one more time. Now it's

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Speaker 3: John Spytech as their GM with Pete Carroll as their

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Speaker 3: head coach. Bad probably for Vibes to be making that

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Speaker 3: many changes, and not ideal for young quarterbacks to constantly

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Speaker 3: be shifting systems. Probably pretty good for star players. One

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Speaker 3: of the messages that we heard yesterday from John Spytech

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Speaker 3: that was associated with this landmark deal, was Hey, we're

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Speaker 3: just getting started here, and what better way to get

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Speaker 3: started than to affirm to the entire locker room that

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Speaker 3: it's not just that Max is our most talented player,

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Speaker 3: it's that Max carries himself and puts in the work

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Speaker 3: required to be great. That if every player followed his lead,

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Speaker 3: we'd be a whole lot better. So I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that the Raiders, if they had kept their prior administration,

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Speaker 3: They did the oll borrow from a future year accelerated

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Speaker 3: to the table the year later. But yeah, the Raiders

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Speaker 3: if I were the Raiders, would be thinking long and

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Speaker 3: In this division, the Chiefs, despite the humble pie served

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, who the second he steps on this sideline

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Speaker 3: and you have Tom Brady as one of your principal voices.

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Speaker 3: Your mindset is we want to win sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 3: and so the Max Crosby extension is an affirmation that

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Speaker 3: win big this year, but when sooner rather than later?

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Speaker 3: I am I would have been more inclined to soft

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Speaker 3: easy for me to say when my I'm not in

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Speaker 3: and the one who is not judged based off of

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Speaker 3: the wins and losses of the franchise, like Pete Carroll

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Speaker 3: and John Spytech, will be going forward.

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Speaker 1: Simon, this feels like a tragically terrible move. Is that

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Speaker 1: cannot get it right for a player who last year,

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Speaker 1: this feels to me like the owner is constantly trying

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Speaker 1: to play Kate and be friends with the star player.

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Speaker 1: Because last year, when Antonio Pierce went from interim coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's it's tough if you're a Raiders fan

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Speaker 2: now when you really think about it, where a lot

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Speaker 2: to get fields view on it. Are they really going

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Speaker 2: for Gino Smith? Are they really in the Sam Darnold business?

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Speaker 2: There's so many rumors and it's NonStop too. Where I

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Speaker 2: told Chad last week, I almost got caught. I almost

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Speaker 2: thing that Stafford was going there, that the ink was drying,

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Speaker 2: that that was a real deal move. It wasn't. That

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Speaker 2: So is it true fields? Are they going after one

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Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks? Are they just you know, gonna release

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Speaker 2: find the draft this upcoming season.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that the most likely thing that happens

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Speaker 3: final year of a three year, one hundred million dollar deal.

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Speaker 3: There was some upside on top of that through incentives,

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Speaker 3: more likely to see Geno do a remix of that deal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's more because the quarterback market has exploded and

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Speaker 3: he is playing good football and we don't talk about

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Speaker 3: tread on the tires for quarterbacks that often, but he's

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Speaker 3: one of the least experience isn't the right word, but

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Speaker 3: the least utilized players at that position for his age, right,

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Speaker 3: because he had like basically that I don't know, seven

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Speaker 3: eight year period where he just watched most games from

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Speaker 3: the sideline. So Gino I think is probably gonna stick

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Speaker 3: in Seattle going forward. I think the Raiders are going

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Speaker 3: and really there's only one that moves the needle. That

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Speaker 1: I may or may not. Yesterday after the Bears traded

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Speaker 3: Think you're required to do so every year, right, isn't

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Speaker 1: I am required to do it. But I might have

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Speaker 2: And they might not be done yet. Yeah, I've heard

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Speaker 1: Yes, Drew Dollman is the fourth.

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Speaker 1: Think about how many times we've talked about the Falcons

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Speaker 1: Of course, because my kid isn't paying attention in his

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Speaker 3: Last thing, I'll say it here on the Bears. I'm

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Speaker 2: I know Chia was good draft before we get their chat,

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Speaker 2: I needed to know more about DK because to me,

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal where this might structure a whole division.

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Speaker 2: That division is the AFC East. Can't everyone I'm hearing

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Speaker 3: Fifty factors to note here, and you're right of the

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks play them once every four years, they play

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Speaker 3: he's gonna need a new deal as well. He's scheduled

432
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: to make eighteen million bucks this year. He signed a

433
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: three year, seventy two million dollar extension a few off

434
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: seasons ago. That no longer is commensurate with the market.

435
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: It just isn't. Jamar Chase probably explode the wide receiver market,

436
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: but it's already boomed a lot since DK did his deal.

437
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: So if you're a team it's acquiring Dk Metcalf, you

438
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: have to account for not just the draft capital that

439
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: Seattle once, but also the fat they're gonna have to

440
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 3: pay Dk Metcalf, which kind of deflates the draft capital

441
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: value a little bit. You're paying double freight in this case.

442
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: DK is an interesting one, right, So such a talented player, explosive,

443
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 3: he's one of the best deep thatt receivers in the

444
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 3: entire NFL. He also is a player that has run

445
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: hot and cold, right. I mean, this is a guy

446
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: who at times we've been talking about him and need

447
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 3: to control his emotions. More so, I think he needs

448
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: to go somewhere where he feels as though he's got

449
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: a chance to win, right, And so I think New

450
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: England do they need him desperately? Yeah? They do? And

451
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: do I think that the Patriots have some things going

452
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: for them. Drake may certainly looks like he's a really

453
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: promising player, and Mike Vrabel is a stud head coach,

454
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: But I think they're more than Dk Metcalf away from

455
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: getting anywhere close to competing in that division. So I

456
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: think I might be looking more towards teams actually like

457
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: the Chargers, who have been reported as a DK Metcalf suitor.

458
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: I think the Texans have been mentioned. I think the

459
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 3: Bills have been mentioned. Teams like that that if you're

460
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: DK or if you're those teams, you're saying to yourself, hey,

461
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: we get this guy. We might be the team to

462
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: beat in the AFC. This is unfair to the Chiefs

463
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: in my opinion, But right now, I'm just telling you

464
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: talking to people around the NFL, this is and not

465
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: every person right I haven't canvassed every single person who

466
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: has an opinion, but I've talked to enough people that

467
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: feel like they're there's some sharks in the water right now,

468
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: right like they feel as though Kansas City is going

469
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: to be excellent next year, but that the Super Bowl

470
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 3: reminded them that you can still make the playoffs and

471
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: do some damage if you're not the Kansas City Chiefs.

472
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 3: And I think people feel as though, well, Casey deserves

473
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: to be the favorite, and I'm sure they will be

474
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: at least in the AFC West. You know, you might

475
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: be able to get them in a one game scenario

476
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: as well. And breathe some life into your franchise.

477
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: So you were at the combine. I'm sure you were

478
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: having a lot of these conversations that give me your

479
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: most impressive prospect from the combine.

480
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: So I did not spend a lot of time at

481
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: the podiums or the players. We're speaking to the media.

482
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: So I'll give my evaluation just from like a from

483
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: the perspective of what he did on the field. And

484
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: it's polarizing, it is, it's probably it's probably Shamar Stewart

485
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: or Matthew Golden from two separate Texas schools, Texas A

486
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: and M for Shamar Stewart and Matthew Golden at Texas.

487
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: And I'll lean towards Golden for this reason. Is I

488
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: prefer when the combine looks like the tape, and the

489
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: tape looks like the combine as opposed to the combine

490
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: not perfectly aligning with the tape. So Shamar Stewart, I've

491
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: used this phrase fifty times, might as well make it

492
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: fifty one times, is the most fascinating prospect in the draft.

493
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: He six foot five. He dropped from two hundred and

494
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: eighty pounds to two hundred and sixty four pounds from

495
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: the senior Bowl to the combine, which is like a

496
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: month apart, so he may have been like in combine

497
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: training mode, but still at two hundred and sixty four pounds,

498
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: you were in a four to six oh forty. He

499
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: had one of the best vertical jumps of any defensive

500
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: player at like forty or forty one inches. His broad

501
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: jump was eleven feet. The guy, if you saw him,

502
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 3: is one of the most impressive looking humans that you

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 3: will see. He had four and a half sacks in

504
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: his career though four and a half, one and a

505
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: half in each of his three seasons at A and M,

506
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 3: so you're gonna pay the guy to be a pass rusher,

507
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: and he had just one and a half sacks each

508
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: of his three college seasons. He's a really, really talented

509
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: player and a really solid kid too. This is not

510
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: a kid who just didn't produce because he wasn't engaged.

511
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: It was just couldn't quite finish the job on these sacks.

512
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna end up going as high as

513
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: like pick seven, eight, ten. I have him a little

514
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: bit lower in the rankings because I'm just a bit

515
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: more risk averse pulling. You know, that would be a

516
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 3: big bet on a guy who had such a modest

517
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: college career. Matthew Golden from Texas at one hundred and

518
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: ninety one pounds. We're going to four two nine forty

519
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: and this kid can scoot. He had a really good season.

520
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: He had just one year at Texas. He was previously

521
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: at Houston, but he had a great finish to the year.

522
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: In two of the final four games Texas played, he

523
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: had one hundred and forty nine or more receiving yards.

524
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: I wish he had gotten to one hundred and fifty

525
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: because one hundred and forty nine just sounds a little

526
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: bit awkward. That being said, you guys get the point.

527
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: He was big when it mattered most for Texas, and

528
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: he can fly like that is clear on tape. He

529
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: was the second fastest player in Indianapolis, behind only Max Harriston,

530
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: a guy who I've loved throughout the process from Kentucky

531
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: at four to eight. That being said, Golden, a guy

532
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: who I think I who grew on me throughout the

533
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 3: year because his play improved throughout the year, shouldn't be viewed,

534
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: at least in my estimation, as a first round lock.

535
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: Don't we have enough evidence at this point of guys

536
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: who are physical freaks and didn't perform in college not

537
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: being the best reaches for the NFL draft.

538
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, that being said, there are like things that

539
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 3: are tantalizing in life that we consistently go back to

540
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: all the time. Right, it's just hard not to, you know, Like,

541
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: you know, or do you prefer fashion over function when

542
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: it comes to your car, or you know things like that, right,

543
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: or like people will sacrifice warmth or comfort with their

544
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: clothing to look a little bit cooler. You know, it's

545
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: like it's just hard not to, you know. So I

546
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: think probably the truth is that Shamar Stewart, he's going

547
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: to be one of those guys that a GM either

548
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: gets the feather in the cap or perhaps the walking

549
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: papers from a few years from now. Right, you either

550
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: sit there you look at genius because you were audacious

551
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: enough to take a kid whose skills were so so enticing,

552
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: or hey, the guy ends up in three years with

553
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: just four and a half sacks at the NFL level

554
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: and that's just not good enough from a first round pick.

555
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: It was paid to rush the passer.

556
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: It's like that James Harris quote chat it's I'm not

557
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: a model. That's why I wasn't a buddy in the combine.

558
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: I'm a football player.

559
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's an issue. Right.

560
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: There's a couple of guys that looked the part. Are

561
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: they a football player? So yeah, I mean off that topic.

562
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard Quinn yrr is the guy who

563
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: heard his draft prospect of the combine. Are there anyone

564
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: that jumps out through that really hurt their draft stock

565
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: from the combine? Because we know that, you know, guys

566
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: are sitting out the combine nowadays because of this fear,

567
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: this exact fear of hurting their own draft stock.

568
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: You know, I'll give you a few guys performed or

569
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: didn't perform in the way in which I think he

570
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 3: could helped them or hurt them, or help them by

571
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: doing the opposite. Here, I love Tyler Booker. He's a

572
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: really good player from Alabama. I think he still goes

573
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: in the first round, but he ended up doing all

574
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: the testing after measuring at like six', five you're hundred

575
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: and twenty five. Pounds he's a big. Human he's A

576
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: connecticut kid by the way as. WELL i think he's new.

577
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Haveymn but this is like this guy is hard to

578
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: miss and he had a great college career At. ALABAMA

579
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: i mean you hear, IT i mean they just they love.

580
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: Him Nick, saban who will be on the Broadcast i'm,

581
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: sure will have glowing things to say About. Booker athletic

582
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: testing though just wasn't Great and there are teams that

583
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: are just a little bit scared on guards who aren't that.

584
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: Explosive he ran a five three nine. Forty doesn't matter

585
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: how fast you are as a, Guard, no but you

586
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: know it also suggests that your foot quickness is not

587
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: in line with where some of these defensive tackles. ARE

588
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: i still think he goes to the first, round BUT

589
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: i moved him down from like maybe a guy that

590
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: could go as high as like thirteen fourteen to maybe

591
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: a guy that ends up going like twenty twenty. One

592
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: Teammate Jalen, MILROE i think actually would have benefited from

593
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: doing some stuff at the. Combine the throwing is always

594
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: going to be a hot, topic but don't you guys

595
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: Think AND i don't want to put words into your,

596
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: mouth so if you disagree vehemently let me. Know but

597
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: If Jalen milroe had gone to the combine and run

598
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: a four three five, FORTY i think it would have

599
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: helped him a lot because it would have been a

600
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 3: reminder to people that for the deficiency he does have

601
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: right now is a pocket and rhythm. Passer he's one

602
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: of the most explosive players in THE. Nfl in the,

603
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: draft he just is like i'd be If i'm Taking

604
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: Jalen milroe AND i haven't. Finished i'm working on my

605
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: top one hundred right. Now it's not, finished it won't

606
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: be for some. Time there's a lot of work to

607
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: be done. There but you can tell Me jalen deserves

608
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: to be. Fortieth you could also say he might be

609
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: closer to seventy. Fifth he's such a tantalizing. GUY i

610
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: think if he had, run it really would have helped

611
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: remind us of why he is so. Intriguing and you,

612
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: know just generally, speaking like running backs and wide receivers

613
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: that don't run great to come out of the combine

614
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: feel a little bit. Different Caleb johnson From iowa's a

615
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: really great. Player it was just like a perfect fit

616
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: for a zone. Scheme he just wants to put one

617
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: foot in the ground and just it's get a great,

618
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: vision just hit the hole and go run a four or, five,

619
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: seven not a great number for. Him so running backs

620
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: and wide receivers that missed that speed mark are always

621
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: going to be impacted in a negative. Way. Unfortunately we

622
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: just you just don't see many four or five or

623
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: faster excuse, me four or five or slower wide receivers

624
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: going round. One and if you're closer to four to

625
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: six than four or, five it might mean That Caleb

626
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: johnson goes sixtieth as opposed TO i thought maybe thirty

627
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: Fifth at one point during the, PROCESS.

628
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I feel, like h everybody would be better. Off maybe

629
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: you disagree with, This, okay everyone would be better off

630
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: if nobody worked out at the combine and you just

631
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: used film that you had and the players on the

632
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: field and what you did at the, Combine you did your,

633
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: Interviews you got to meet with the players one on.

634
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: One you got to know them, Personally you got to

635
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: get a sen to who they. Are you got to

636
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: see how they perform in front of the. MEDIA i

637
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: think the combine creates such recency bias that he screws

638
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: up the metrics and the measurements and the feelings for

639
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: all the people who have been doing the work all

640
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: season long and changes the calculus on this. STUFF i

641
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: think it's a terrible way to try to manage the

642
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: draft because you go into it, thinking oh my, GOD

643
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: i just saw a Superhero Jalen. Milroe judgement on what you.

644
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: Saw we've got so much film On Jalen. Milroe if

645
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: you need the combine In Jalen milroe to run a four,

646
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Speaker 1: three five point forty to, decide oh my, god we

647
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: have to get this. Guy and then you get him

648
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: in a camp and, realize wait a, second he's not

649
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: an accurate. Passer he's just a really dynamic. Athlete shame on,

650
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: you not your, field but on the.

651
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: Scouts So i'll take it one step. Further we're in

652
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: the same vicinity, here but a little bit. Different i've

653
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: wondered why we don't have the draft five days after

654
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: The National championship, game, Right and you, THINK i wonder, if,

655
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: like AND i hope this has not come across as

656
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: piling on BECAUSE i was incredibly, optimistic like in a

657
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: detrimental manner On Anthony richardson for fantasy football purposes last,

658
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: Year does that guy go? Forth? Overall if the combine

659
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: is excuse, me if the draft is done On january,

660
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: twentieth as opposed To april. Twentieth you have three months

661
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: to think and overthink, stuff you, Know And i'm sitting

662
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: here thinking to, Myself, okay, YEAH i, mean it is

663
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: impressive that some of these Guys Chamar stewart And Anthony

664
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: richardson can run as fast as they can at that.

665
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Size but if every coach AND gm says the starting

666
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: point of the evaluation is the, tape maybe it'll be.

667
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: Different and you, know the is it a shorter window to?

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00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: EVALUATE i, mean, yes for the first, time but it

669
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Speaker 3: won't be for every year after, that. Right it just

670
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: means that your scouts startup on the twenty twenty sixth

671
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: draft On january thirtieth of twenty twenty, five as opposed

672
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: To april thirtieth of twenty twenty. Five so it is

673
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: an interesting. Debate AND i do wonder about how the

674
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: combine will look in future years because of the number

675
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: of players that are opting out AND i meet optioning

676
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: out of the testing of, course because they all still showed.

677
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: Up but last, YEAR i, Mean Marvin Harrison junior showed,

678
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: up did interviews? MEASURED i think just Left Jaden daniels

679
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: from the. League neighbors didn't even take, measurements and those

680
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: guys had two of the greatest rookie seasons we've ever.

681
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: Seen so it's sort of, like if those guys are

682
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: gonna be completely unbothered by their participation or lacked the

683
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: up with the, combine what is the point of. It

684
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: it's a fascinating. Debate you. KNOW i like the combine

685
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: still because of you, know the intel, gathering AND i

686
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: do enjoy seeing some of these kids who are more

687
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: Like day three players who can reaffirm or boost their.

688
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: Stock that being, said it's it's a very different event

689
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: when you're sitting there and each position group that comes,

690
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: by you're, like, okay so my top wide, receiver no

691
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: sign of, him top quarterbacks no sign of. Them it

692
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: just it just hits a little bit. Differently there's no

693
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: two ways around.

694
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: Me WHEN i talked to Coaches chad the, combine, honestly

695
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: it's mental. Warfare it's not really about on the. Field

696
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: it's about making these kids, uncomfortable asking them crazy, questions

697
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: honestly talking shit to. Them like a lot of these

698
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: drills you see ON. Tv sometimes there are at ten

699
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: o'clock at, night like it's just messing with these kids'

700
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: heads and it always cracks me. Up but it's the

701
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: great part of that Movie Draft. Day did they go

702
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Speaker 2: to the kid's birthday? Party like that's what this three

703
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: months is. About all the stupid. Shit wonn't even think

704
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: about it to them trying to figure out who this

705
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: person is as a, man how are they mentally and

706
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: what will they be coming out of? It So i'm with, You.

707
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: CHAD i get like the combine can be a little

708
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: bit much at, times but OVERALL i love the idea

709
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: of it of they're just trying to poke and prong

710
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: with these guys and really figure stuff out what kind

711
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: of man they are because it is so. Mental and

712
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: you know a guy we heard a ton About chad

713
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: that might have not done the best of the combine Is, sanders,

714
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean this is a quarterback. Position he's polarizing

715
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: a lot of front. Offices what's your view on that? Field,

716
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: like what are you hearing about him right? Now Where

717
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: i'm of the mindset of teams that love him are

718
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna absolutely talk about him and bash him to the

719
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: media right, now because that is the game of the,

720
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: draft Right they're gonna say they don't like the way

721
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: he spoke that he's, arrogant that he's two. Cocky they

722
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: probably love. That behind closed, doors they're just like, thinking of,

723
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: COURSE i don't be trading up to number one or

724
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: number two to get this. Kid so what are you

725
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: hearing about him right?

726
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: Now? YEAH i take a lot of that stuff with

727
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: a grain of. Salts what's what's, Reported And i'm not

728
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: talking about the. People i'm just talking about like the

729
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: people that are. Reporting i'm just, saying like the content

730
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: because of what you're describing, silent is that like there

731
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: might be some, motivation, right there might be a motivation

732
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: to get this guy to, fall you, know like because

733
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: it's it's a completely unpredictable event and you're at the

734
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: mercy of. Others if you want to shift your draft, order,

735
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: right if you want to go from six to four

736
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: and you're The, raiders you got to convince The patriots

737
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: to do a. Trade you can't just, say, hey well

738
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: we'll slip, flop.

739
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: Right SO.

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00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: I have NOT i had a conversation with somebody WHO

741
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: i spent time With shador and explicitly has said to

742
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: me something that has negatively impacted my evaluation of. HIM

743
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: i Like schodor as a. Player i'm not as bullish

744
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: on either of the quarterbacks at the top AS i

745
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: was the first three last, year WHICH i think is

746
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: in line with where most people wind. UP i and

747
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with them as humans and

748
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: has she. Has it's just from a pure football from

749
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: a football talent evaluation. Standpoint so Cam, ward my top

750
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: thirty two will drop tomorrow ON espn sometime. Soon if not,

751
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: tomorrow it's very. Soon and Cam ward Is i'm, SORRY

752
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: i should know better six or, seven And shador is.

753
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Seventeenth so AND i last, YEAR i mean those guys

754
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: at the. Top from the day the draft order was,

755
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: SAID i, said let's just move on to pick, four

756
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: because in some order is going to Be, Caleb Jaden.

757
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: Drake you decide which order it actually. Is more of

758
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: the question was would it Be jaden Or drake it

759
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: picked number. Two so, ANYWAYS i think those guys both.

760
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: GO i think Cam ward's going first. OVER i just

761
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: think that's where we've. LANDED i don't know to, who

762
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: but if to, somebody and The titans have found themselves

763
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: in a pretty good position, actually BECAUSE i do, believe

764
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: and again there's no such thing as a unanimous sentiment

765
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: in THE, nfl BUT i spoke to significantly more people

766
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: that if they had the option to choose Between Cam

767
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: mooord Or shoot Or, sanders would Prefer ward To sanders

768
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: while still Liking. Sanders it's not, like, HEY i Like

769
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: cam And schador does nothing for. Me it's just if

770
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: you're giving me the option one or the, other it's

771
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: a binary decision. Here i'm Taking Cam. Morton AND i

772
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: also think that because teams with their quarterback preferences in

773
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: some cases it is like you like one guy and

774
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: you don't like the. Other it's like house, hunting right

775
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,360
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776
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: you really like, one but the other lacks three features

777
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: that you really feel are must and you're not going

778
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: to have any interest in. It SO i think The,

779
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 3: titans whether they want to take camboard or whether they

780
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: find a team that prefers cam word enough that they

781
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: would move ahead Of, cleveland who of course has number,

782
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: two they can get a pretty decent trade package. Here

783
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: but it wouldn't surprise me if the first three picks

784
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: in the draft are two quarterbacks and then one Of

785
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Travis hunter Or Abdul, carter which means despite The patriots

786
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: winning In week eighteen and pushing them down to one to,

787
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: four they may well end up with one of to,

788
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: me the two best players in the. DRAFT i still

789
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: View Abdul carter Well Travis hunter first and Then Abdul

790
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: carter second is the two best players in this. Class.

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00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,600
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828
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Speaker 3: Only, Okay so If i'm starting from, scratch It's Jamar,

835
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: Chase i'm going to lean wide. Receiver just in, general

836
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,200
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837
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: jefferson And Jamar chase is a healthy, debate he's one year.

838
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,560
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839
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: Sam darnold showed last year that they know what they're

840
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,359
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841
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
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00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,240
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843
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,560
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844
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: that rookie, dynasty It's Ashton denty and it's not, close

845
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,840
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846
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,080
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847
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,200
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848
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920
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849
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: denver they had the number one run block win rate

850
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,320
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00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,080
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00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,640
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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,600
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00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: Class like this guy is not, good he's not, great

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00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: he is super. Elite that's.

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00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Interesting, Oh Diamon, simon do you have thoughts on that

857
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: you're a draft, Guy you're a dynasty draft.

858
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: Guy, yeah it's.

859
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: AGAIN i, Mean field's doing it the nicest way to

860
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: you chat where it's like you need so much info,

861
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: nowadays all in your league in the settings that it's

862
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: really hard to say what you should do in your rookie.

863
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: Draft like in my league last, YEAR i had the

864
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: fifth pick in this nice League i've had with my

865
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: buddies for fifteen, years AND i luckily worked my magic

866
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: Got Jane daniels BECAUSE i just kept talking about everyone.

867
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: ELSE i, go you're looking at Pass On, harrison all time, receiver,

868
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: neighbors all time my, receiver And Jane daniels felt to.

869
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 2: Me and it's in a TWO qb, league and NOW

870
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: i might have a top five guy for the next

871
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen.

872
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: Years so my view of it.

873
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: IS i probably would go what he talked. About if

874
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: we're doing overall, Right Chase jefferson always go. Receiver receiver

875
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: is by far the safest spot right in the Dynasty.

876
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: League you want someone that's going to play for a

877
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: long time and their injury risk is. Mitigated and you,

878
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: know on the flip, side looking at this draft and

879
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: just this upcoming, SEASON i would just Love this is

880
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: a personal. Question is not a, Dude i'm not gonna

881
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: help anyone. Else Brian Thompson. Junior where do you put

882
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: him on this level wide? Receivers BECAUSE i got him

883
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: as a steal my dynasty. LEAGUE i love. HIM i

884
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: feel like it doesn't matter whose quarterback is gonna. Be

885
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: this kid's talent is just out of when we saw

886
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: it last. Year Mac jones came. In, yeah, still this

887
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: guy was putting up insane. Numbers what's your view on.

888
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: Him is he already a top five receiver in fantasy

889
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: football or is he more top ten back in top?

890
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: TEN i, MEAN i think he's got a chance to

891
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: be in that top, Five AND i actually think my

892
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: favorite calls in fantasy are NOT i, MEAN i would

893
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: have loved to have been all Over pokinakua last year

894
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: going into his rookie season and been, LIKE i think

895
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: the guy's got top ten, upside and then have him

896
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: be whatever it was wide receiver for or. Something BUT

897
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: i actually think the calls that are to me more

898
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: satisfying are the ones where it's there's a guy who's

899
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: really good, already we know, that, right but when you

900
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: build your list from, scratch he doesn't quite crack THE. Si,

901
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Right he's the really awesome, player but not quite in

902
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: that same, cut because those are the more likely, jumps, Right,

903
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: like that's much more likely than some fifth round wide

904
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: receiver becoming a top five play again this. Season SO

905
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: i admit that this time of the YEAR i focus

906
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: much more of my draft rankings than my fantasy. Rankings

907
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: BUT i would imagine off tough that the first three

908
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: receivers and some first four receivers in some order are

909
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: going to Be Jamar, Chase, Justin, JEFFERSON. C. D, lamb

910
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: And Aman Ross Saint, brown and THEN i would say

911
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: that fifth is open Between. Pooka probably pook would be.

912
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: Five then it would be some sort of combination Of

913
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas. JUNIOR i PROBABLY Aj brown will be in that.

914
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: CONVERSATION i, mean that's the kind of tier that we're talking,

915
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: About like IT'S Aj, Brown Brian Thomas. Jr i'm sure

916
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: forgetting A Malik neighbors of, course like a few others

917
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: in that same. Category BUT btj is, awesome and you,

918
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: know he really did show that quarterback quarterback agnostic value

919
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: That i'm not saying it's the fault of receivers when

920
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: they can't overcome poor quarterback, play but, man is it

921
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: a comforting feeling when you see them ball with you,

922
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: know sub standard at best quarterback play for much of the.

923
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: Year football is the fucking.

924
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: Best amend better.

925
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: Myself oh my, GOD i just love the. Best like

926
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: thinking About Brian thomas and the plays he was making last.

927
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Year he was A he was a, miracle he really.

928
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: Was AND i mean the only good thing about that

929
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: offense Once Trevor lawrence went down Was Brian. Thomas YOU i,

930
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: mean they were a mess across the board, basically and

931
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: you know that's a team that has some optimism right.

932
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: Now they got to nail this. Draft but the only

933
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: THING i can count on For jacksonville going forward Is

934
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior is the.

935
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Man and gives him love to our Guy Chris raybond

936
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: who loved him last year and gave out another. GUY

937
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: i want to talk About Buck Irving and you, know

938
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: are we in a new age here field of running

939
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: back WHERE i was someone who's made a lot of

940
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: money doing season long best ball leagues WHERE i would

941
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: take a running back around one or two and then

942
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: not take another running back until round twelve or, thirteen,

943
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: right kind of basically fade running, backs take the. Backups

944
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: guys always get. Hurt last, year no one got hurt.

945
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: Hurt studs played out and their value shifted. Tremendously where

946
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: are we in a year now where we're gonna have

947
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: five six guys running backs in the first round once,

948
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: again like it's two thousand and, Eight like what's are?

949
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: Happening we? Are and by the, way before people get, mad,

950
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: yes we Know christian McCaffrey missed all of last year, basically,

951
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: Right so other than, him, though when you think about

952
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: the top Dog, Saque Derek henry And Jamior gibbs And James,

953
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: connor on on on and, on the guys who were

954
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: like in the top ten by the end of the,

955
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: season they played all. Year i'm missing, others of, course

956
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: but you get the. POINT i think, SO i really

957
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: do think. So LIKE i think that people are gonna

958
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: say you just have to have them because they show

959
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: there in This we talked about recency bias earlier in

960
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: the idea of the combine and how it influences draft.

961
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: Sock but, YES i believe we're gonna see a very

962
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: running back heavy start next, year especially because one factor

963
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: we probably don't have him play next year is Like

964
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Travis kelce being like a top five. Pick, Right it's

965
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: gonna be Brought bowers but a little bit lower than.

966
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: That and you might make the case, that like there

967
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: is After, brock there are more quality. Options you, know

968
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: kill was right there as well on the points per game,

969
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: basis but there just have been. More we'll see probably

970
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: more quarterback fades this year, Too Like lamar was great last,

971
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Year Josh allen was great last. Year Jayden daniels was,

972
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: Great Jalen hurst was. Great but you may say to, yourself,

973
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: like we don't have the one supernova that quarterback that

974
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: you have to draft him, early and that's the edge you.

975
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: GAIN i think the edge you're going to gain in

976
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: people's minds going into the season is you either have

977
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: running back depth or you. Don't and next thing you,

978
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: know It's week two of the playoffs and you're starting

979
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: The cardinals third string running back even Though James, connor you,

980
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: know it's still. Healthy like, That that's WHERE i think

981
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: things are going to land this.

982
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Year this is the greatest football Conversation i've had in a.

983
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: Months, yesterday since yesterday with your.

984
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,560
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985
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00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,480
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