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Speaker 2: Hey, Colts fans, I'm jj Staka Vitten. Welcome inting to

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Speaker 2: another episode of The Colt Show in Indianapolis. Colts podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are presented by our friends at Microsoft Surface co

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Speaker 2: What a story this guy has. He was undrafted out

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Speaker 2: And for them to do what they've done, and for

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Speaker 2: was awesome conversation. We of course talked about Simone Biles,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Indy Man. How does it feel to be here?

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you having man if it was amazing, It's

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Speaker 2: This is kind of your your fourth NFL stop. Now,

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Speaker 2: So what's your favorite Midwest comfort food? You've been in

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Speaker 1: That's my goal.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's working. What one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: And the game I did miss was after my first interception.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just like along the journey, you know,

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Speaker 2: You're you know, you're you're thirty. You've been in the

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Speaker 3: I always gravitate towards the undrafted guys, just because that

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Speaker 1: Man, I just just give them game, give them advice. Man.

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Speaker 3: Just try to be a good leader, good person, show

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Speaker 3: to me anything you need, call me whatever, how you

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Speaker 3: come over to my house, just so you know, you

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Speaker 1: You know, if.

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Speaker 3: So just you know, you just pass that alone, pay

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Speaker 1: Man, just be a good person.

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Speaker 3: So that's my mind saying, my mentality every day walking in,

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Speaker 2: So I think a lot of players, you know, their

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Speaker 2: Like how has that benefited you in your career?

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Speaker 3: Just gives you a different type of sense of urgency

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Speaker 3: a little bit hunger, you know, versus you know there's

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with it. You know, you get drafted high

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Speaker 3: But it's like a letter saying that you basically were

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Speaker 2: So I want to get you out here on this jail.

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Speaker 2: your wife, But what do you Jonathan Owens draw inspiration

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Speaker 3: Her mentality and how she carries herself through it all

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Speaker 3: And they expect you to do this, but you and

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, man, like, you've been able to

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Speaker 1: She's gonna look at me crazy.

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Speaker 3: So man, it's just it's just motivating, man, Like I

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, Jonathan Olans appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Andy.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man,