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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bullyball. I am Rachel Nichols, joined by DeMarcus Cousins,

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Speaker 1: and each Monday we're going to be talking about everything

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Speaker 1: going on in the NBA, and you know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the straight talk with my friend over there. Welcome

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Speaker 1: mister Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, Richard? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I am ready all right. There's so much going on

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Speaker 1: already in this young season, and you know, first up,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about James Harden, set to make

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Speaker 1: his Clippers debut tonight at Madison Square, Garden of all places. So, boogie,

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Speaker 1: how do you think Harden is going to fit in

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Speaker 1: with Russ, with PG, with Kawhi Man.

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Speaker 3: You can look at it from you know, two perspectives. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: it's one basketball. There's four guys that all enjoy shooting

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Speaker 3: the basketball. But you gotta also look at the intangibles

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Speaker 3: that each player. Knowing that this team is built around

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Speaker 3: Kawhi and PG, those are going to be your man

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Speaker 3: and two guys scoring the ball.

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Speaker 2: So adding two playmakers.

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Speaker 3: Obviously with Russ last year now James this year, I

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Speaker 3: think it could be a recipe that could work, and

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Speaker 3: it also could be one it could be a complete disaster.

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Speaker 3: I do have confidence in t Lou and you know,

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Speaker 3: making this thing work. I think he's the perfect guy

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Speaker 3: to put this mix together and make these guys you know,

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Speaker 3: exist for this season. So it's a lot of things

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Speaker 3: in the air for the Clippers this season. I think

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Speaker 3: three of the guys contracts are up at the end

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Speaker 3: of this season, so this is almost like a you know,

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Speaker 3: do or die type situation.

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Speaker 2: It can also determine the future.

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Speaker 3: Of the Clippers, So I think adding those two playmakers

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Speaker 3: to those two scores, it could work. How bad in

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Speaker 3: all these guys with you know, championship aspirations. Obviously, James

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Speaker 3: has been dealing with you know, off the court issues

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Speaker 3: for I would say the past four years. It's rumors

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Speaker 3: that he's dealing with you know, personal issues with his

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Speaker 3: family this season, and that's part of the reason he

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Speaker 3: wants to be closer to home being in LA. So

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm thankful that he is able to get

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Speaker 3: closer to home so he can handle those at home situations.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it puts them in a better mental space to

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Speaker 3: you know, come out and complete and be focused on

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Speaker 3: just basketball this year. So it depends on if we

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Speaker 3: have a bought in James Harden, or we're going to

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Speaker 3: see what we saw in the past with you know,

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Speaker 3: being out of shape, you know, the pouting, you know,

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Speaker 3: all of the above.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to the negative things he can bring

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Speaker 3: So if he is bought in, this is going to

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Speaker 3: be a very, very tough team to beat. But we

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Speaker 3: also know how he can be when he's not bought in.

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Speaker 3: So I think this all falls on James Harden and

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Speaker 3: how he approaches this season.

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Speaker 1: I think we probably agree, right, he's going to be

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Speaker 1: bought in at the beginning at least, right. He wanted

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Speaker 1: this trade. He worked for it all summer, talked about

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Speaker 1: it a lot. They've all said the right things to

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Speaker 1: each other. Tyler had a long talk with him before

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Speaker 1: he even landed in LA and you know, PG and him,

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Speaker 1: we're talking, you know, all the way through really the

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Speaker 1: off season, the beginning of the season. He and Russ

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Speaker 1: have a much better relationship than I think people think

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Speaker 1: that they do. You know, as James said, they go

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Speaker 1: back to the Boys and Girls Club in LA. This

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Speaker 1: goes a lot deeper with them between what happened in

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Speaker 1: a year on the Houston Rockets. So all of that

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Speaker 1: in great shape right now, and they're all saying and

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Speaker 1: thinking the right things. We will see, as you point out,

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Speaker 1: if we get three months in, four months in and

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Speaker 1: James does not like the role he has on this team,

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Speaker 1: if we see some of the other James Harden come out.

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Speaker 1: But tonight, at least, I think it's going to look good.

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Speaker 1: I would start all four of them tonight just to

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like coming off the bench. He talked about

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Speaker 1: his whole routine. And we know that Russ is such

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Speaker 1: a creature of routine, right, So I'd start all four

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Speaker 1: not sure i'd finish with all four of them. What

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Speaker 3: I would start off four, but obviously it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end, right.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the games.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, james play making ability and his ability to make

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Speaker 3: shots from the outside, that that kind of compliments PG

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Speaker 3: I can see Russ being in a position that he's

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Speaker 3: Russ has to be a main defender on the point

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Speaker 3: just it's it's almost a gift and a curse for

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Speaker 3: this Clippers team because there's so many different options they

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Speaker 3: I said, it's all going to go back to how

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Speaker 3: Baldy and these guys are to just winning games and

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Speaker 3: with being he's gonna take each guy's sacrifice in a

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Speaker 3: little bit that they're not used to doing. So let's

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Speaker 3: see how baught in these guys are this season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they've got thirty two All Star appearances

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Speaker 1: going to have to each sacrifice, each change their role.

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Speaker 1: Russ's usage, by the way, it is already way down

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Speaker 1: this season. He's been playing great, but his usage usage

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Speaker 1: is not what he's used to. He's going to then

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Speaker 1: have it cut further by James, But this season tells

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Speaker 1: me he's kind of bought into that. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: not going to be in the game for that much longer.

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Speaker 1: You start to be okay. I mean, look at Chris

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Speaker 1: with things you might not have been okay with even

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Speaker 1: there's anywhere else for him to go. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: there's anywhere else for James to go if this goes poorly,

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Speaker 1: if he shows up the way you do it. You

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Speaker 1: you think is that mentality part of it?

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Speaker 3: I think with the way Russ has handled the past

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Speaker 3: three years of his career, he's been nothing but a professional.

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Speaker 3: He's been dragged through the mud, he's been his name

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Speaker 2: All of the above.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to just the negativity that's been spoken

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Speaker 3: Russ is an incredible teammate. Russ is going to show

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Speaker 3: up to play every single night. He's going to give

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Speaker 3: know he'll jump through the wall of any teammate. Yeah

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Speaker 3: on that floor. So with that mindset, I think Ruskin

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Speaker 3: the past, and that's kind of what put him in

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Speaker 3: a position but as far as him joining other teams,

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Speaker 3: I think any NBA team would be welcoming and had

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Speaker 3: He's a winning player, he has a winning attitude and

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Speaker 3: he makes everybody around him better. He's shown that throughout

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Speaker 3: his entire career. Now when it comes to James on

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Speaker 3: the other hand, yeah, I think James is a winner.

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Speaker 3: He's proven that throughout his career. He's He's always in

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Speaker 3: at this point moving forward with the Clippers, their success

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that this ceiling for this team. If

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Speaker 1: everyone does what they're supposed to do, that they can

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think you look at them on paper, they

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Speaker 3: many teams in the NBA built the way this Clippers

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Speaker 3: He doesn't care about the money he spends, and that's

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Speaker 3: always a great thing because if you want to win

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Speaker 3: in this league, you have to spend money.

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Speaker 2: That's just how it goes.

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Speaker 3: So obviously his mind is on winning the championship, so

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Speaker 3: that's taken care of. But like I said, it just

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Speaker 3: falls back to what is this mind what's the mindset

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Speaker 3: of this team going to be this season? I see

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Speaker 3: the championship or bus or you could see this Clippers

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Speaker 3: team being blown up. I think I think that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you mentioned Tyler, I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's many coaches in the NBA that

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Speaker 1: he has that could make this work as well as

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Speaker 1: he has the potential to make this work. And he

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Speaker 1: was asked the other day about sort of if he's

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Speaker 1: coached a team or been on a team that had

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Speaker 1: this kind of offense before where it was distributed among

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Speaker 1: these four guys, and he brought up the Celtics teams

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, do you see similarities there.

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Speaker 3: I see similarities as far as talent and offensive firepower,

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Speaker 3: but the mindset of that Celtics team and how they

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Speaker 3: kind of goes unnoticed. With how great that team was

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Speaker 3: they could have all easily been you know, egotistical and

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Speaker 3: But it still goes back to what I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: Well, Look, this definitely shows, to your point, Jazz impact

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Speaker 1: I don't know that suspension is looking like it is impactful.

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Speaker 1: Whether it has an impact on him personally or not,

435
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Speaker 1: it's certainly impacting the team. So all right, next we

436
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Speaker 1: got to talk Lakers. But Lebron has had to do

437
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Speaker 1: a lot of work to push the Lakers to wins.

438
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: He's busting through his minutes limits. He played thirty five

439
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Speaker 1: minutes over the weekend and a loss by nineteen to

440
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Speaker 1: Orlando AD. He's playing terrific. He's averaging twenty six and thirteen,

441
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Speaker 1: leading the league in blocks. But he's playing thirty nine

442
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: minutes a game too. So for now, the overreaction is

443
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Speaker 1: centered around the role players. Where are you on the

444
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: overreaction meter? When we look at what these guys are

445
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Speaker 1: doing and what needs to be done next.

446
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Speaker 2: I think it be an overreaction. And the reason I

447
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: say that.

448
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: You're monitoring the situation, You're you cuing up the trade machine?

449
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: Where are you?

450
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Speaker 2: Man?

451
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Speaker 3: This is tough to say. I want to go death

452
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Speaker 3: con one? What and the reason I say death con one?

453
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Speaker 3: I believe this is Lebron james last year to actually

454
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Speaker 3: compete for a championship.

455
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Speaker 2: He'll be thirty nine in December.

456
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Speaker 3: The fact that you're depending on a thirty nine year old,

457
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Speaker 3: regardless of how great he is, regardless of his legacy,

458
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Speaker 3: regardless of his legend, thirty nine years old and you're

459
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Speaker 3: depending on him to play forty minutes a night and

460
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Speaker 3: also be the main guy and the main factor if

461
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Speaker 3: you win the games. That's just not a good sign

462
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Speaker 3: for this team. I do think they have the talent

463
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Speaker 3: to step up to take less of a load off

464
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Speaker 3: of Lebron James, but that's on the supporting cast to

465
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Speaker 3: do so. I think Christian Woods has to be put

466
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Speaker 3: into a better position to add to a better position

467
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Speaker 3: to add to the offensive firepower that that team could have,

468
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Speaker 3: and that's something that the coaching staff will have to

469
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Speaker 3: figure out. But I think it's too much on Lebron's

470
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Speaker 3: shoulders that this later his career and at this big

471
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Speaker 3: age for him to be the basically the factor of

472
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Speaker 3: if you win or lose games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he definitely is right now, You're completely.

474
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Speaker 2: Right, D'angela Russell.

475
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Speaker 3: He's been playing, you know, he's been playing pretty good,

476
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Speaker 3: but I think he still has to take his game

477
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Speaker 3: to another level. Austin Reeves has been struggling as of lately.

478
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Speaker 3: I think he's more so just out of rhythm going

479
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Speaker 3: from USA. I'm sure he took a break in between

480
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Speaker 3: before training camp, so he's probably still finding his rhythm.

481
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Speaker 3: But he has to step his game up. It has

482
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Speaker 3: to at least be sixteen to eighteen a game from

483
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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves for this team to really really be successful.

484
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Speaker 3: So they got to figure it out. But at the

485
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Speaker 3: end of the day, if you're living in dying by

486
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Speaker 3: if Lebron James is winning games for you, just laying

487
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Speaker 3: his career, it's not gonna look good for this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have faith Austin Reeves is going to

489
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Speaker 1: even out and go back to the player they expected

490
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Speaker 1: him to be. You're right right now, he's only averaging

491
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Speaker 1: twelve a game. Can't be doing that thirty nine percent

492
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Speaker 1: on field goal shooting. Can't have that either from a

493
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Speaker 1: guy who's supposed to provide that shooting. But yeah, he

494
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Speaker 1: had a pretty busy season last year, not just you know, physically,

495
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: but emotionally changing his role so much and stepping into

496
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Speaker 1: the spotlight. Then he went to write to Team USA basketball.

497
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Speaker 1: He was asked to carry a lot there. He did

498
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Speaker 1: really well, which kind of raised his notoriety. He has

499
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Speaker 1: a shoe deal, He's a shoe with his name on it.

500
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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, and teams have a more

501
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Speaker 1: of a defensive book on him this year. So I

502
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Speaker 1: think all of that is going to be an adjustment

503
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Speaker 1: for him. He's shown me to be the kind of

504
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Speaker 1: player who can handle that and who eventually is going

505
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Speaker 1: to be able to sort of even himself out. But

506
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Speaker 1: get he's got to get there. And these minutes they're

507
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Speaker 1: not nothing. I mean, they said going into the season,

508
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Speaker 1: Lebron should be averaging twenty eight to thirty minutes. And

509
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Speaker 1: I was with the Lakers the other night and I

510
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Speaker 1: asked him, and I asked Darvin Ham, what are you

511
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: doing here with this? And Darvin was like, we're so competitive,

512
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Speaker 1: me and him that I have a plan through three

513
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: quarters and then the fourth quarter and I'll get through

514
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Speaker 1: out the window because we know we need to win

515
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Speaker 1: this game. And the medical staff and the training staff

516
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: is unhappy with both of us. The next day and

517
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Speaker 1: Lebron kind of said the same thing. I don't know

518
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Speaker 1: how important is it for a guy turning thirty nine,

519
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Speaker 1: who is, by the way, one of the most physically

520
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Speaker 1: gifted humans we have ever seen in professional sports. But

521
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Speaker 1: even with him, how important is it? Do you think, Boogie,

522
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Speaker 1: that his sort of mileage doesn't get up as high

523
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Speaker 1: as it's been getting per game, so he's got it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Is that a huge

525
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Speaker 1: factor for you?

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Speaker 2: I think it is a huge factor.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go off and say the whole plan

528
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Speaker 3: of playing twenty eight that's just that's complete bullshit. That's

529
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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's possible with the way this

530
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Speaker 3: team is constructed. I just don't see that happening. It's

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Speaker 3: been seven games into the season. They've already scrapped that plan.

532
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Speaker 3: So can you imagine what happens thirty games in? Forty

533
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: games in We also have to keep into account that

534
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Speaker 3: Lebron has been injured every season since he's been a Laker,

535
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Speaker 3: maybe outside of the championship, so obviously that the mileageist

536
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: is starting to have an effect on his body, regardless

537
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Speaker 3: of how physically gifted he is or how physically gifted

538
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Speaker 3: he's been in the past. Father Tom is undefeated and

539
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: it happens to everybody. So with that being said, they

540
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Speaker 3: have to put it a real plan, actually realistic plan

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Speaker 3: in place to help this guy make it to the

542
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Speaker 3: end of the season, so he can't be fresh for

543
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Speaker 3: the playoffs and for a championship run. If not, you

544
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Speaker 3: might as well scrapped his team because it's not gonna

545
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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I have to think some of the other

547
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Speaker 1: role players getting healthy will help. I have to think

548
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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is going to be able to find his level.

549
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Speaker 1: But that being said, if that's not enough to push

550
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Speaker 1: his limit minutest limit back down, if those guys can't

551
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Speaker 1: get into the game and step up the way they

552
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: need them to, I agree with you. I'm not a

553
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Speaker 1: deaf con one yet.

554
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Speaker 2: But deaf gone one. Deaf gone one.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of Lakers fans who after that

556
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Speaker 1: Orlando loss, we're at def Con one. The Magic are

557
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: a good team by the way, or they're they're improving

558
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's not the Magic of Ole. But still

559
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Speaker 1: like I get it, I get where people's concern is.

560
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Speaker 1: I want to move you on to the Phoenix Suns though,

561
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: because their health definitely prime and right for the overreaction meter.

562
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Speaker 1: We are seven games into this season, Bradley Beal still

563
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: hasn't played a single game. Devin Booker has only played

564
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Speaker 1: two games. Definitely the other night you saw when he

565
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: came back in against the Spurs, had to get his

566
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Speaker 1: rhythm back and all that stuff, even though he shot

567
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Speaker 1: really well. Bradley Beale, by the way, Big Picture, has

568
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: only played in more than sixty games for four seasons

569
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Speaker 1: of his career. So he is a guy who you know,

570
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Speaker 1: misses games. And obviously we've seen KD miss some games

571
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Devin Booker generally has

572
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Speaker 1: been healthy, although he's had those stretches where he's had

573
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Speaker 1: injuries where he's missed games. So should we be overreacting

574
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Speaker 1: to the Sun's health? Where are you? Are you just

575
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Speaker 1: chilling you monitoring you cune up the trade machine or

576
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Speaker 1: are you going all the way to deaf kond Won

577
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: like the Lakers.

578
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Speaker 2: No, I'm chilling on this situation.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

580
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's early in the season for this Phoenix Science team.

581
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Speaker 3: I think they did a great job of putting his

582
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Speaker 3: team together. It's so much fire on this team. If

583
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Speaker 3: you have two out of three of those guys and

584
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Speaker 3: Bradley Beal, Devin book and Kevin Durin. I think you're

585
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: going to always be in a situation to win. I

586
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 3: think they did a great job putting bigs in place

587
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: to complement these guys. The Nirkish move was incredible, I do.

588
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: I think that's a great move for them of playmaking

589
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: big they can finish at the rim, play some defense,

590
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 3: A big body can make the correct reads out of

591
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: the pick and roll. And I think Drew you Banks

592
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: coming off the bench with the high energy, I think

593
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: that's the perfect combination for them. Obviously, health is the

594
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Speaker 3: only thing that I see that I can see stopping

595
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: this team. Is still early in the season, which gives

596
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Speaker 3: them plenty of time to get one hundred percent healthy.

597
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Speaker 2: But like I said, with two.

598
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Speaker 3: Out of three of those guys on the floor, they

599
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: have a great chance in winning games, all right.

600
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Speaker 1: So just chilling, I agree with you. I think that, Look,

601
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: they got to find their rhythm, they got to find

602
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: their way. All these teams that just sort of came

603
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: together over the summer. That's the point. That's why Denver

604
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: is playing so well. That they have all that chemistry

605
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: and all that time together, that doesn't just happen. You

606
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: got to build it so I'm interested to see what

607
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: they build in Phoenix. I like the DeAndre Ayton Nurkic trade. Also,

608
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about him defensively and what that's

609
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: going to mean is they progress through the playoffs. He

610
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: has played great team defense before up in Portland. It

611
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: doesn't shock me that the last season or two, when

612
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: things were the way they were, he wasn't buying in

613
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: in that same way. So I think he's going to

614
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: try to get back up to that level again, but

615
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: they need him to. I will say though his attitude,

616
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Speaker 1: he's such a positive guy. He's one of the more

617
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: like sort of positive, cheerful players I've been around. Teammates

618
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: really love him, and that's not a knock on DeAndre Ayton.

619
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I actually really like DeAndre and he can be very

620
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: sunny too. But the situation had gotten so negative there

621
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: between him and the team and management and everything else

622
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: and other players that it just was uncomfortable. And so

623
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: I think removing that from the locker room, having a

624
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: guy come in who's just sort of all smiles is

625
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: definitely going to help them too. So I'm with you,

626
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. We'll see what happens. Just chilling. All right,

627
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Speaker 1: I want to get to our new segment, set a reminder.

628
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: This is for you to set a reminder to the

629
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: biggest game in the NBA this week, and I want

630
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: to look at the week ahead. So bug, what game

631
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: are you setting a reminder for? Celtics Sixers that's Wednesday,

632
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Warriors Nuggets, that's Wednesday. I'm actually gonna be up in

633
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Denver this week. Spurs Nicks. That's Wenby's debut at Madison

634
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Square Garden. And you know that guy likes to see

635
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: that you We've already seen that kid. He loves him

636
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: a big moment. He's there Friday, You've got Lakers Suns.

637
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Speaker 1: These are some of the n season tournament games and

638
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Clippers maps, which is going to be great too because

639
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: they've had some great playoff matchups recently as well. So

640
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that's a lot of good games. What are you looking

641
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: forward to?

642
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: Man, it's hard, it's hard to pick just one. Obviously,

643
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see the young kid Wenby play.

644
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

645
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: He's going to play on the big stage Wednesday, so

646
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be a big test for him. Obviously,

647
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: going to add to the legend that he's already creating

648
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: for himself super talent. The kid, he's already exceeded expectations.

649
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: I spoke on this before. I think the Spurs could

650
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Speaker 3: sneak into the playoffs just off his talent alone, the impact,

651
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Speaker 3: And you know most rookies are judged by for some reason,

652
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Speaker 3: only judge by what they can do on the offensive

653
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Speaker 3: side of the ball. This kid is shown he can

654
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Speaker 3: be a two way player and impact the entire game

655
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Speaker 3: without having to score thirty at night. I think he's

656
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Speaker 3: Tim Duncan on steroids, which is crazy to say, yes,

657
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Speaker 3: crazy to say. His talent is through the roof. So

658
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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see that game. And Friday, that Clippers

659
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Speaker 3: MAVs game. I'm excited to see that one as well.

660
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Speaker 3: You know the past history between those two teams, it

661
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Speaker 3: always goes down to the wire. Luca always shows up,

662
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Speaker 3: PG Kawhi always show up. So I think it's gonna

663
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Speaker 3: be a lot of firepower in that game. Obviously, the

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Speaker 3: new addition in James Harden to be playing that night,

665
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Speaker 3: so we'll get to see that team against another good

666
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Speaker 3: team in the MAVs, and we'll see what they're made up.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited for that game. As well.

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Speaker 1: Look, I love the idea of Wenby at MSG. I

669
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Speaker 1: am one thousand percent all in on this kid right now.

670
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Speaker 1: If you look at the skill set, it is literally

671
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Speaker 1: something we have never seen before. So when you look

672
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Speaker 1: at some of the names that his first five games,

673
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Speaker 1: his first six games, the records that he's setting for

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Speaker 1: his start, you're talking about names like Shaq, You're talking

675
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Speaker 1: about names like David Robinson, talking about names like Lebron James.

676
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Speaker 1: And he has a skill set frankly that is more

677
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Speaker 1: complete than any of those guys. And that doesn't mean

678
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Speaker 1: he is going to become Lebron. But I don't know.

679
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Speaker 1: I think this ceiling, the ceiling for him is as

680
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Speaker 1: high as any player who has ever played in the NBA.

681
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Speaker 1: And we don't know what's going to happen with health.

682
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Speaker 1: That is, of course the biggest factor. We've seen Grant Hill,

683
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Speaker 1: who is supposed to be the next Michael Jordan, completely

684
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Speaker 1: derailed by what happened to him. So that could happen

685
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Speaker 1: to Wemby and then we'll never get there. But I

686
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Speaker 1: have to say, this kid has already shown he's got

687
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Speaker 1: a killer instinct. Again, I don't know as we sit

688
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Speaker 1: here in this particular second, and it'll change as people

689
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Speaker 1: listen to this all week, but I know that as

690
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Speaker 1: of over the weekend, he had the best fourth quarter

691
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Speaker 1: numbers not for rookie in the entire league, in the

692
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Speaker 1: entire league. This kid knows the big moment. He's been

693
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Speaker 1: a pro frankly since he's for years. Right as a

694
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Speaker 1: young teenager, he was already playing on professional teams, already

695
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Speaker 1: playing in the euro Cup. So he knows about big moments.

696
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Speaker 1: He's won a championship, he knows what all that requires

697
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game when all the pressure

698
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Speaker 1: and everything is on him, and he has been not

699
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Speaker 1: just running into the fire, he's been leaping into it.

700
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Speaker 1: With that giant wingspan and the defense book, he is

701
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Speaker 1: a future defensive player of the Year. To me again,

702
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Speaker 1: you know barrn Helson, all of that this year, it's crazy, right, Yes, yes,

703
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Speaker 1: guys are talking about that wing. It's an eight foot wingspan,

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Speaker 1: and so what players I've talked to have played him

705
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Speaker 1: so far have said, they're like, there's nowhere to physically go,

706
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Speaker 1: like that takes up a lot of court, and that's

707
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Speaker 1: before you get to the shop blocking. He's block Kd's

708
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Speaker 1: shot He's blocked Claye Thompson's shot. These are guys who

709
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Speaker 1: are snipe bers, and he has been able to just

710
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Speaker 1: get in front of them. And with Klay Thompson, I

711
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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that clip, he batted his

712
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Speaker 1: shot out of the air, grabbed it and then went

713
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Speaker 1: to the other end inducted because of course he can.

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Speaker 1: He can do any of that stuff and straight up

715
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Speaker 1: around the basket. I mean, is a big. You've got

716
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Speaker 1: to like the way he's defending around the basket.

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Speaker 2: Too, right, I mean, you can't even label this kid

718
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Speaker 2: a big.

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Speaker 3: I can see him at a chance that win the

720
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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year as well this season.

721
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Speaker 2: He's that impactful in the game.

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Speaker 3: He's on both sides of the ball, his offense and

723
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Speaker 3: the scary part, I don't even think he's really found

724
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Speaker 3: this offensive game yet. These are just intangibles that he's

725
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Speaker 3: He's a raw player right now in my eyes. Once

726
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Speaker 3: he finds his offensive game, he knows where his go

727
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Speaker 3: to spots are, he has his go to moves, He

728
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Speaker 3: has a first, second, and third option on every move

729
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Speaker 3: he made. This kid, this is something we've never seen before.

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Speaker 3: We'll probably never see anything like it. Again and being

731
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Speaker 3: able to guard Steph Curry on the wing at seven

732
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Speaker 3: seven like somptant.

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Speaker 1: You guys see, you've never seen those more. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Look again, I'm taking big leaps here, but

735
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about ceiling, right, I'm not talking about what's

736
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. I'm just talking about the ceiling for him.

737
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Speaker 1: This ceiling for him is that this whole MJ. Lebron

738
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Speaker 1: debate we've been having for the last ten years, the

739
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Speaker 1: ceiling for him is that by the time Wemby's done,

740
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Speaker 1: or even fifteen years into his career, is that he

741
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Speaker 1: could be rendering that either or discussion. He could be

742
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Speaker 1: rendering it.

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Speaker 2: Mood.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just don't know. He has the potential

745
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Speaker 1: for so much and now we're gonna have to see

746
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Speaker 1: if he pays it off. But I'm so excited. That's

747
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Speaker 1: my game of the week because him in Madison Square Garden,

748
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Speaker 1: I think is going to be the Jews. I don't know,

749
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Speaker 1: all right. I want to get to some odds here,

750
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Speaker 1: all the Radar presented by DraftKings, the only sportsbook you

751
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Speaker 1: need for this basketball season. I want to take a

752
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Speaker 1: look at the odds to win the Western Conference, So

753
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Speaker 1: we want to look at the dark horse team out

754
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Speaker 1: west that could have throne defending champs because Denver is

755
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Speaker 1: still the favorite, right plus two sixty, The Suns are

756
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Speaker 1: right there, the Warriors are there, the Lakers are there,

757
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Speaker 1: the Clippers making a push here, and the MAVs. Then

758
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Speaker 1: you got the Kings too on the outside, your old

759
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Speaker 1: club there. So what do you think? I mean? I

760
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Speaker 1: know Sons and Warriors has been kind of what people

761
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Speaker 1: have been leaning toward. Do you still go with one

762
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Speaker 1: of them is the best chance to knock off Denver?

763
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Speaker 1: Or do you see what all the sleepers there?

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Speaker 3: I think the Sons have a great chance at being

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Speaker 3: a team that can defeat the Denver Nuggets. The Denver

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Speaker 3: Nuggets are just so well constructed. There's like a Will

767
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Speaker 3: Oil machine. They know how to play every single night,

768
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Speaker 3: they know what they're looking for every single night. They're

769
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Speaker 3: so unselfish, yolkish. Right now, I believe it's the best

770
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Speaker 3: player in the entire NBA, So you know what you're

771
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Speaker 3: getting thirty, ten and ten from him every single night.

772
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Speaker 2: Their Will Oil machine.

773
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Speaker 3: But if there's any team I could see knocking them off,

774
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Speaker 3: it would probably be the Suns. The three head of

775
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: monster they have in Devin Booker, Bradley Beilt and Kevin

776
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Durant is a nightmare for any team. I just don't

777
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Speaker 3: really see any team being able to match up defensively

778
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Speaker 3: to stop that. Having down low, him being a somewhat,

779
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Speaker 3: him being able to somewhat, you know, bother Yokic a

780
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Speaker 3: little bit. With his size and his physicality. I can

781
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Speaker 3: see the Suns being a team that can that can

782
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Speaker 3: do that. Obviously, health is a factor, but if this

783
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Speaker 3: team can get healthy, I think they have a chance

784
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Speaker 3: at being Denver.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

786
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to shoot a lot. I mean, that

787
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: offense is going to have to be an over over,

788
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Speaker 1: overdrive because you know Denver is going to score, and

789
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Speaker 1: you know that that Yokic can just bullyball his way

790
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Speaker 1: in there. Speaking about pod here, So I don't know.

791
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's me interesting. I'm so impressed

792
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Speaker 1: with Denver. I came into the season picking them just

793
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Speaker 1: because I don't like to pick against the defending champs

794
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Speaker 1: unless they've given me a reason, and they have given

795
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Speaker 1: me no reason. They look there's no hangover. Yokic looks

796
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: as good as ever, Jamal looks as good as ever

797
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: that supporting cast. I know theyre you know, Bruce Brown

798
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: was a great addition to that team and a great

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Speaker 1: ingredient last year. But they don't seem like they've missed

800
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Speaker 1: a beat. Aaron Gordon is playing lights out. I mean,

801
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: they look so good. I cannot wait to see what

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Speaker 1: havepen this season in a stack west by the way,

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Speaker 1: because Steph Curry, by the way, it's also scoring a

804
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Speaker 1: million points a game. So we don't like going on.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to doom scroll our social media element.

806
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: No need, you don't need to fall into the endless

807
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Speaker 1: scroll of our social apps. We've got you. We're gonna

808
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Speaker 1: give you the good stuff. So tons of conversation on

809
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Speaker 1: social boogie about the new City edition courts. And I

810
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Speaker 1: want to show you the Miami Heat court. And this

811
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Speaker 1: is a pat Riley quote we think and it says,

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Speaker 1: hardest working, best conditioned, most professional, unselfish, toughest, meanest, nastiest

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Speaker 1: team in the NBA. I think there are times when

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Speaker 1: that has been true about the Heat. Do you feel

815
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Speaker 1: that it's true about the Heat right now?

816
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Speaker 3: I love Jimmy Butler, and I believe everything that's said

817
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Speaker 3: in that quote fits Jimmy Butler. I feel the same

818
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: way about BAM. I don't see that with everybody on

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Speaker 3: that team, or that being the identity of this team.

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Speaker 3: That's just not the identity of any team in the

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Speaker 3: NBA these days.

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Speaker 2: Toughness, meanness, that.

823
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Speaker 3: Like, that's that's the old school style of basketball. Playing

824
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: with that grid every night, that's old school. So I

825
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Speaker 3: don't really see that fitting any team in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: But it is characteristics of certain guys on that team,

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Speaker 3: and basically the hard and souls of the team, which

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Speaker 3: is Jimmy Butler and Bam.

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Speaker 2: So in a way yes, and in another way hell no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so hard with them because they

831
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten off to a great start. But they didn't

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Speaker 1: get off to a great start last year, they didn't

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Speaker 1: get off to a great middle, they didn't get off

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Speaker 1: to a great finish. They won their second playing game

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Speaker 1: and went all the way to the NBA Finals. So

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Speaker 1: they're just a team where it's hard to gauge this

837
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Speaker 1: earlier in the season, But I think court may be

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Speaker 1: a goal. Maybe that court is a goal more than

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Speaker 1: a description. Also a big topic going on as you

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Speaker 1: scroll is, of course, the Ncason tournament's featuring a cash

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Speaker 1: prize for players and staff. I think that's really important

842
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Speaker 1: to note. Why should fans can though, because even some

843
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: of the players have come out and said Bones Higland

844
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: came out the other day and he was like, I

845
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Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on here. I couldn't even

846
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Speaker 1: explain this tournament to you. Jimmy Butler saying, I don't

847
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: really get I'm supposed to win more now when I

848
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: step on the court on this particular Friday night, I

849
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: want to win every game. I don't want to win now.

850
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: I want I'm supposed to want to win. So you've

851
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Speaker 1: had some guys not really seeming to buy in. You've

852
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Speaker 1: got Steph Curry who's been buying in. He said after

853
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Speaker 1: that great game they played against Oklahoma City, he was like,

854
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: these tournament games hit different. So you got guys buying

855
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Speaker 1: into a different degree. Where are you on it?

856
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Speaker 2: I think that season tournament is just complete bullshit.

857
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just feel if you want to get back

858
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Speaker 3: to you know, competitive basketball, let's bring defense back to

859
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Speaker 3: like real defense, Like let's bring the touchdown. Let's bring

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Speaker 3: the physicality of the nineties early two thousands back into

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Speaker 3: the game, I think. I think that's when basketball was

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: at his peak. I think that's when you really got

863
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: to see both sides of the ball being played on

864
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: a nightly basis. I think guys care more back then.

865
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: We want to see the superstars of the league go

866
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: through at first. We want to see a defensive player

867
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: actually put the clamps.

868
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: On a superstar. We want those things to happen.

869
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: I think now the game it's becoming where it's two stage,

870
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: like they want to stage the superstar scoring thirty instead

871
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: of letting them go out and get thirty, you know

872
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. So if you want real competitive basketball,

873
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: let's put real defense back into the game. And I

874
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: think those things, those issues that we're dealing with through

875
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: this eighty eighty plus game season, I think those issues

876
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: slowly creep out and we'll get back to the product

877
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: that we're accustomed to seeing.

878
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: No.

879
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: I love that perspective because I think the n season

880
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: tournament could be fun. I'm all for like more fun things.

881
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I think the NBA has been really creative over the

882
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: last twenty years, and that's something that other leagues haven't

883
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: been willing to change in the same way. I think

884
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: the NFL could use some more of that change, Baseball,

885
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: could you some more of that change? So I like

886
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: thinking about these things. Obviously, these nd season tournaments are

887
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: hugely popular with soccer over in Europe, so there's a

888
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: model there. But I think you're right, it's not going

889
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: to really make the regular season feel that much more important,

890
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: which is the goal here, because they feel like that's

891
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: slipped away over the past few years. And they're trying

892
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: to negotiate these television contracts where they're trying to get

893
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: networks to pay total of seventy five billion. That is

894
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: the aimed goal here. Seventy five with a b billion dollars,

895
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: right like that? That is so much money. And these

896
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: narraks are looking at them and they're seeing regular season

897
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: ratings go down and down and down every year, so

898
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: they need to juice this up. And the thought has

899
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: been book like, let these guys score more. Our fans

900
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: love it. They're watching Steph Curry score forty, they're watching whatever.

901
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: But you're right, it's gotten to the point where a

902
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: bunch of guys are scoring forty. That's not even as

903
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: big a thing anymore.

904
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: Thirty guys averaging twenty five plus, Right, it's just not realistic. Like,

905
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: it's not good for the game. It's not enjoyable to watch.

906
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: Like I want to see guys go out and compete.

907
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: I want to see guys getting into it. I want

908
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: to see guys frustrated with one another. I want to

909
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: see guys actually go out and compete on a nightly basis.

910
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: It was good when it was drama in the game.

911
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: It was good when players didn't like each other. You

912
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: knew when they met up it was going to be

913
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: a great matchup. Now everybody's friends, everybody gets along, it's

914
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: coom by guys. It's like a big summer camp or

915
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: something like. This isn't This isn't what The competitive nature

916
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: of this game is completely going away from what we're

917
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: accustomed to, and we need to get back to that foundation.

918
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: And like I said, I feel like with that foundation,

919
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: everything else to clean itself up.

920
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, and it starts with on the court. You're right,

921
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: because I don't care that these guys work out together

922
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: over the offseason or their friends. They're allowed to be friends.

923
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: They're professionals who work in the same business, right, But

924
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: the idea of that nastiness coming in, that pat rally

925
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: nastiness he was just talking about on that court. That

926
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: comes from defense, that comes from on court battles, that

927
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: comes from that grit of the playoffs that you're talking about,

928
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: where guys just do not like each other, and that

929
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: is You're right, that is what would get people into

930
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: the regular season a little more because those matchups happen

931
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: four six times a year if they're done right, and

932
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: then boom, you've got people paying attention to every single

933
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: one of those games. So all right, Commissioner Cousins, we're

934
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna work on that for you.

935
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: All right.

936
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: Before we go, we've got a question from our producers

937
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: to close out the show, which team has the best

938
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: duo or trio twenty three or younger? So we're looking

939
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: for really the best young collection of talent in the NBA.

940
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: We're going to rotate this question every week. It's gonna

941
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: be different question every week. But this week we got

942
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: the magic right, we got Paolo and from Wagner. I'm

943
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: very proud of my pronunciation. They are Thunder, Jalen Williams,

944
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: not that Jalen Williams, the other Jalen Williams, Yes, that

945
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams, chet Holmgrin and Josh Gitty, they're all under

946
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: twenty three. On the Pistons, you've got Kate Cunningham, Jalen Duran,

947
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: on the Spurs Wenby of course, you've got Vassel, You've

948
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: got Sohan, You've got on the Hornets, Lamela Ball, Brandon Miller,

949
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Rockets Singlin, Jalen Green, Jabari Smith and on the Pelicans

950
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: of course, I am still only twenty three people. Trey

951
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Murphy as well. Brendan Ingram doesn't quite fit into the

952
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty three and under, but he's still young. So where

953
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: are you on the best young young core in the NBA.

954
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: Outside of me being a huge fan of Wemby, obviously,

955
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: I love the Spurs organization and everything they do as

956
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: far as developing players, But I'm gonna have to go

957
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: with the Thunder, Jalen Williams, Chet and and Giddy. That's

958
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: that's a great found out, a great foundation to have

959
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: with those young guys.

960
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: Obviously, you adding shade to that picture.

961
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: Chet might be the closest thing we have to winby

962
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: and well.

963
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: That's a Rookie of the Year. That's the Rookie of

964
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the Year race clearly is.

965
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: Obviously, I think Chet is a very, very talented player.

966
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: I was a big fan of him coming out of

967
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: Gonzaga as well. Like I said, I think he's the

968
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: closest thing to winby we we're ever gonna see. And

969
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: I think their games are still kind of different, but

970
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: just as far as the size and athleticism and intangibles,

971
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: it's somewhat of a similarity. But I think Chud is

972
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: also one of those special type players, something we'll never

973
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: see again. Jayleen Williams, being young and talented as he is,

974
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: I think he's a dynamic player that fits the mold

975
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: of that team. And then Josh Getty being the playmaker

976
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: that he is, putting that combination of players together and

977
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: adding shade to the mix. I think you got a

978
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 3: bright future with that Thunder team. And obviously Sam Presty

979
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: leading the way. He's been great throughout his career with

980
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: just building teams, developing teams. We saw him put the

981
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: young core group of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden together.

982
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: We see what those guys turned into. So I think

983
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: this Thunder group can be special and I'm excited to

984
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: see what happens as this team of folks.

985
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Sam Presty knows his way around the draft, and they

986
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: have so many picks coming up. They've been so smart

987
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: and making all these deals for draft picks. This young

988
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: core is all going to be on the same timeline.

989
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: They're going to add another couple of players this year

990
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: and over the next year. They've got picks from all

991
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: over the league, so they don't challenge right, well, they

992
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: don't have to bet a thousand.

993
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's.

994
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: Actually it's actually the concept of the process in Philadelphia,

995
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: but without sucking to get draft picks. It's about making

996
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: smart moves to get draft picks. But the whole point

997
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: of the process was drafting is inexact science. No matter

998
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: the best people, the best people in draft history, the

999
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: best GMS in front office people. You don't bet a thousand.

1000
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: You don't even bat five hundred, like you can't predict

1001
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: at seventeen and eighteen what these kids are going to be.

1002
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: So the more picks you have, the more bites at

1003
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: the apple, the better team you can end up with.

1004
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: And Philly got there by having historically bad seasons. Sam

1005
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Presty is getting there by basically being super savvy about

1006
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: players he's traded away, starting of course, with Russ MPG trades,

1007
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: and I think that Josh Giddy is somehow underrated. So

1008
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: I love this group too, and I'm excited to see

1009
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: what they do. I think there's like a tick and

1010
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: time bomb where everyone knows it's ticking. Everyone in the

1011
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: NBA knows what this team is going to be in

1012
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: five years, and we're just watching it happen like that.

1013
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: Wait for boom.

1014
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: All right, friend, I love doing this with you. I

1015
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: love talking to you. This is going to be so

1016
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: much fun every week. We got a lot to come.

1017
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll see you next Monday and I'll see how you

1018
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: out there too.

1019
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: All Right. I appreciate your regard. This is great, and.

1020
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Speaker 1: Remember you can get Bullyball wherever you get your podcasts,

1021
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: in the air, on the ground, on YouTube as well.

1022
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Speaker 1: We'll be there. Thank you for being in this first

1023
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