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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another episode

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Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Halls. Welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi

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Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each

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Speaker 1: week this is the place you go to when you

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Speaker 1: want to learn about the latest and the most horrific,

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Speaker 1: the most angelic, the most positive, the most negative encounters

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Speaker 1: and experiences that are being reported around the globe. So

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Speaker 1: if you or someone you know has experienced something and

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Speaker 1: you want to give some comments or gather some insight

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Speaker 1: or other advice, send it to me through my main website,

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Speaker 1: which is shadow folks dot com or Heidi Hollis dot

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Speaker 1: sometimes people spell my name wrong, so I thought shadow folks, uh,

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Speaker 1: and tell me all the details about whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that you've been experiencing, because the more that you give,

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Speaker 1: the more that we can better understand and capture where

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Speaker 1: you're going with it and how we might be able

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Speaker 1: to shed some light. And again, if you're a researcher,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what it is that you've come across.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about what it is that you

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Speaker 1: think is going on, because how else do we get

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Speaker 1: all of these different opinions to come to a good

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Speaker 1: and best conclusion unless we're not all working together. Right.

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Speaker 1: We gotta work together. We gotta do that. So please

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Speaker 1: send me all of your insight, all of your experiences,

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Speaker 1: all of your thoughts about whatever is that you're experiencing.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to be a guest on the show,

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Speaker 1: you're also welcome to do that. Come on this program

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Speaker 1: and talk about it. But I am not kidding you.

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Speaker 1: Even before our live audience, people prefer to sit in

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Speaker 1: or send an email and have me read it, so

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Speaker 1: I get it. I welcome it, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: It is all good. And guess what this show is today?

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Speaker 1: This is this is Halloween special show? How about that?

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Speaker 1: And I am not kidding you Halloween. I could get really,

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Speaker 1: really busy. I get a lot of requests to do

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Speaker 1: And and so people still will come, you know, come

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Speaker 1: different lakes that have had spottings of a lake monster

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Speaker 1: But so Rock Lake is located like twenty miles from Madison, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: that they call Rocky. Now Rock Lake is unique in

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Speaker 1: fascinating how the whole topic of lake monsters very similar sounding.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say the contact that myself and my college

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Speaker 1: didn't know. I would never guessed that these creatures are

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Speaker 1: are something interdimensional potentially. Um, But you think about it,

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Speaker 1: must have a deeper meaning. Maybe they're the ghost of dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why not we have residual hauntings of people.

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Speaker 1: Why can't we have residual hauntings of something like a

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Speaker 1: shop right, So what am I doing. I'm dishing out

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Speaker 1: healthy looking dot com Reveal Welcome back. You are listening

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Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network Halloween Special. Yeah, there you go. It was

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Speaker 1: that spooky. I don't think it was spooky, but um yeah,

457
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: so this is the show where I am just sharing

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Speaker 1: some of the strangest, spookiest, oddest stories. But I personally

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: have come across that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of people wonder how do you

461
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: get through your days. Do you sleep? Okay, I sleep great. Um,

462
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: these things don't scare me like other people, I guess

463
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: because I grew up in a lot of house and

464
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: I had some experiences and all this different stuff and um,

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, if you're noticing my voice

466
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: is a little bit messed up, I am getting over

467
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: a cold and it really was a cold. Um, it's okay,

468
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Um. But yeah, So I think that over

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Speaker 1: the years, I thought that I always just had bad

470
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Speaker 1: luck where I would witness and experience so many different things,

471
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Speaker 1: and the people around me just so happened to experience

472
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: different things. But I'm gonna tell you guys secret. Okay.

473
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: So I've lived in a lot of different places and

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Speaker 1: various friends and and whatever I've lived with, and as

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Speaker 1: a medical worker, I've lived in different places as well.

476
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Speaker 1: And this is not easy to admit to. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: just put that out there first. It's not easy to

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Speaker 1: admit to. But you know, I thought, Wow, these people

479
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: that I just so happen to know, Um, they're weird

480
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: like me too. They have these odd experiences and you know,

481
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: as roommates or as friends and co workers, even co

482
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Speaker 1: workers and I'd hear these stories or see their faces

483
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: right after they experienced something, and uh, I'm like, wow,

484
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Speaker 1: I'm not so odd. And then I get back in

485
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: touch with these people years later, and I'm like, so, wow,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, how are those experiences happening and are they

487
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: still going on? And I usually get no, Hidi, it

488
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Speaker 1: all ended after what I lost touch with you, or

489
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Speaker 1: or after you moved out of the city, or or

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Speaker 1: after we weren't roommies anymore or whatever it was her housemates.

491
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my goodness. And then I get that

492
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Speaker 1: little guilty thing in my pit of my stomach, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's that my fault? It might be my fault. And

494
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm seeing now a lot of it's my fault. Okay.

495
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to I don't know how to

496
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Speaker 1: get past that or move past that and and be

497
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: okay sometimes with it, because sometimes it's not fun and

498
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: other times it's kind of that was neat and other times,

499
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I'm so sorry. Um. But then I try

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Speaker 1: to tell people how to protect themselves too, so I

501
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: do my part. I don't just let people be hanging

502
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Speaker 1: if they share with me that they're experiencing something. Of course,

503
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Speaker 1: I let them know what they should do to protect themselves.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm going to share a couple of

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Speaker 1: stories about some of the people that I have known

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Speaker 1: bumped into or that we're friends or coworkers or whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to share it right now. Alright, so just

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00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: to show how random these things can happen to people.

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Speaker 1: And again, I didn't always know that it was kind

510
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: of like this not not always a contagion. I'll explain

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Speaker 1: better at the end of this story. But alright, at work,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm an occupational therapists. Um my work with

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Speaker 1: those who have psychological and cognitive dysfunction. I work in

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Speaker 1: a variety of different types of facilities, and I've also

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Speaker 1: owned my own clinics. So um, all right, let's let's

516
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: just share. Okay, So people find out what I do

517
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: by different means. Okay, they could google me, or they

518
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: just happen to know or whatever. It's it's it's always

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: surprises me that people take the time to look somebody up.

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: And uh, but that seems to be a common every

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Speaker 1: teth thing. Now it's like, oh, we have a new

522
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: therapist walking around here, let me google her. Oh my gosh,

523
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: what does she do? So But anyways, so I had

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Speaker 1: somebody a place that I was helping out pretty consistently,

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Speaker 1: and and one of the people that work there happened

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Speaker 1: to ask me about some of the work that I did,

527
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, and I try to keep

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Speaker 1: it as as less scary as possible, especially if the

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Speaker 1: person doesn't know me, um really well, or I don't

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Speaker 1: know them very well. And I don't like to scare people.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I deal with demons and goblins and

532
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: the devil. Yeah, but it's not all dark, uh, you know, Jesus,

533
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: angels all that stuff too. I put it all together

534
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: and talk about so many different things and how they're

535
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Speaker 1: all connected and and I don't go that deep though,

536
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: and they'll just kind of keep it superficial unless the

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Speaker 1: person asked more. I'm like, how how far did they

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Speaker 1: google me? I'm thinking so um, So this person asked

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Speaker 1: me some questions and and I shared. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I help people if I can and give

541
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Speaker 1: some insight on some different things, and you know, I

542
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: write books on these things, and you know, I just

543
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: kind of kept it as superficial as possible. And and

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Speaker 1: then the next day, they asked more questions. I'm like, oh,

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00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: they're getting deeper. They must have really hit a link.

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Speaker 1: It went to another link, and I'm like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I want to say that this happened maybe three

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Speaker 1: days in a row, where they asked a couple of

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Speaker 1: questions and just kind of moved on, and then the

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Speaker 1: weekend hit. By the following weekend, that same person was

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Speaker 1: a bit freaked up and now, okay, let me finish

552
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: the storry. Okay, I'm getting ahead of myself, and she goes,

553
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: what is in my home now? I said, what? Excuse me?

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00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: She said, I was making my kids lunch and I

555
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: put the sandwich together and I had this very heavy

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: cookie jar on the counter, a very level counter. I

557
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: wasn't drinking. I'm like, what where are we going with this?

558
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Was it drinking? And uh? And I saw it start

559
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Speaker 1: to slowly glide towards me and then curve over over

560
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Speaker 1: towards like it was going to go to the edge

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Speaker 1: to drop off. She said, I caught it and I

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Speaker 1: put it back and I was like, I didn't say that.

563
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Speaker 1: I didn't say that. And then it went and it

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Speaker 1: did it again, and she said, that's when I screamed

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Speaker 1: out and screamed for it to stop. It's just like,

566
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Speaker 1: what do I do and why is this happening to me?

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00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: What is this? And you know, looking at me kind

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Speaker 1: of side eyed like I did this somehow. And at

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Speaker 1: the time I really didn't know and I had any

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Speaker 1: kind of issues of bringing these things around people. But um,

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Speaker 1: I told her, I'm like, oh, oh my gosh, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a strange thing to have happened. And I I

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: did notice the pattern. I had a UFO paranormal discussion

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Speaker 1: group for years at that point, and I did see

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Speaker 1: people come to the meetings, right, and they're just curious

576
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: because I held it at a at a local library,

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: and they just come in and just be curious and

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00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: ask questions and not always experiences or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Um and not necessarily wishing to see something either. And

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Speaker 1: but by the next month or next meeting, the people

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Speaker 1: will come back the story like, oh my gosh, I

582
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: experienced something and it could be alien, it could be ghostly,

583
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: it could be spiritual, could be all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I was always amazed by how that could happen.

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Speaker 1: Now I have a better understanding that sometimes these things

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00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: they are around, and they do hang around me because

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00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm not their friend. The negative ones, okay, And and

588
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: how do negative things try to get a person down?

589
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: And they try to isolate them and oppress them and

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00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: make people think that they're nuts or whatever and scare

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Speaker 1: them off so you don't have support around you. So

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Speaker 1: I think that was more of the effort when it

593
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Speaker 1: would come to me personally. Why it happened to people

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Speaker 1: when they would come to my meetings and whatnot, I

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Speaker 1: think because they had looked in. Again, these things are

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Speaker 1: around people like myself, and they would, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to try to take a look, or these people

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Speaker 1: were paying more attention, or or these things will look

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: back at them. I mean, what is this. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's other people out there who are like myself who

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00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: are very familiar with one I'm speaking of right here,

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Speaker 1: so I know I'm not alone. But I also have

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: another story for you. And this happened to a friend.

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00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I rented a house with this person, and oh gosh,

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: here this is another scenario. It's another scenario that I

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Speaker 1: just I didn't realize that it was quite attached to

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Speaker 1: me because this is nothing that I personally have ever experienced.

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Speaker 1: But let's just put it this way. I felt terrible

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Speaker 1: for this person now that I realized that it might

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Speaker 1: have been my fault some somehow, somehow, because they don't

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Speaker 1: experience these things any longer. Um less that I heard.

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Speaker 1: But so okay, this friend of mine had to get

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Speaker 1: something from the basement of their home. And when I

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Speaker 1: say that, I have never heard a person run back

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Speaker 1: so scared. I mean wow, I mean absolutely panting, shaking, sweating,

616
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: could hardly get their words out, and I'm like, what's wrong,

617
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: What's wrong? And they're like a dog. I'm like a dog.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean a dog? A dog? You have

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Speaker 1: a dog in your basement? Like what they're like? I

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00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: heard and felt, excuse me, chills hot air from like

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Speaker 1: a very tall, sounding like dog with glowing red eyes,

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Speaker 1: like the most deepest guttural growl I have ever heard

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Speaker 1: in my life, and they felt as if they were

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Speaker 1: about to be devoured in their own basement. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I have heard now people reporting what quote un quote

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Speaker 1: hell hounds, and sometimes hat Man is seen with what

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Speaker 1: appears to be like a hellhound or directing this hellhound

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Speaker 1: like shadow black creature was growing red eyes, gnarrowling teeth, drooling, angry,

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Speaker 1: sometimes large sometimes typical sized animals, chasing people and and

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Speaker 1: just having this absolute feel of evil around it. But

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody immediately after I have experienced something

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Speaker 1: like that. I mean, honestly, I think that was the

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Speaker 1: first time I had met anybody that I had experienced

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Speaker 1: something like that, and and to see the raw, I

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00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: mean raw emotion of feeling like they just run for

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Speaker 1: their lives. So it was quite an experience for me

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Speaker 1: as that person. I I was terrified. I've never written

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Speaker 1: that basement, never go with that basement. I'm like, there's

639
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640
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Speaker 1: another form of shadow people take and sure enough, but

641
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Speaker 1: kind of kind of a hellhound type of situation. And

642
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Speaker 1: apparently those have been around for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, it is the Halloween episode. And I am

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Speaker 1: reflecting on some of the stories that I have I'm

684
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: across just really kind of stuck with me mostly and horrifying, spooky,

685
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: mysterious and all of the above. And I have saved

686
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a couple of the worst that I have heard, because, um,

687
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, what do I specialize in? The two things

688
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: that I named shadow people and hat Man phenomena. They

689
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: are really as disturbing as they come. But I'm actually

690
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Speaker 1: going to even steer off from hat Man first, and

691
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go into something really dark and deep

692
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: and horrific because just okay, So I'm going to try

693
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: to make this one as nondescript as possible. But this

694
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: happened to a child that I knew that was, oh

695
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, really intelligent kid, very observant, very insightful. And

696
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: I did my best to not talk about spooky things

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Speaker 1: around children, because hello, I don't want to be responsible

698
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: for giving any child nightmares, and um, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it's fair. I think that kids should be able

700
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: to live their lives free of demonic entities, I don't know,

701
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: go figure or ghostly activities. So I don't try to

702
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: talk about these things around children. Um, but my friends

703
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: do tend to tell kids, and then the kid will

704
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: come up to me and start talking to me about

705
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: some of the things that they've experienced. And that is

706
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: what happened in this scenario. So I got approached by

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00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: this young kid who wants to tell me something that

708
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Speaker 1: happened and they just didn't know what to think of it,

709
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, and I'm sure, sit down, talk

710
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: to me. What's what's going on? And I said, I

711
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I I was sleeping when this little girl

712
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: opened up this door in my wall and towards me.

713
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I said, hold on, hold on, were you dreaming. She's like, well,

714
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: I was sleeping and then I woke up because I

715
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: heard something and and I look and there's this opening

716
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: forming in my wall. I get chills when I think

717
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: about this. And she's giving details. She's like sitting in bed.

718
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: She sits up and she sees this little girl walk

719
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: out of the wall. But it's not quite a little girl.

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00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean. She's like, well, she

721
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: had a really big head, and she had just a

722
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: few hairs on top of her head. And she got

723
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Speaker 1: her crayons out and she drew what she was saying,

724
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: and and I'm like, oh, this thing kind of looks

725
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: like an alien child to me. But its eyes were

726
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: really horrific looking and just just just a horrible looking thing,

727
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: really thin body, thin, whispy hair on top of its head.

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00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: And she kept saying, come on, come on, And the

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00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: kid is telling me I didn't want to go, but

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00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: she she's like she was so skinny, but she put

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00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: her hand on my wrist and it was like like metal,

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00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: like I couldn't like pull away, and and she's like,

733
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: come on, it'll be fun type of thing. And and

734
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: she's like and I'm like, I don't think I could

735
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: go through the wall. She's like, sure you can, and

736
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: which makes me think that this opening wasn't exactly open,

737
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: but she could sense that there was something different about

738
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: a certain portion in the wall, so she went and

739
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: pulled her through the wall. And she's like, Heidie, we're

740
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: walking and it was like like a cave like thing underground,

741
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: and it smells like rotten eggs. Just it was so stinky,

742
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: hello sulfur. And she's like, and we're walking along this

743
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: like rocky pathway. And and even as I'm talking right

744
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: now about it, I got the image in my head

745
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: of what she's described iving. And she's like and the

746
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: girl's got like a tight grip, like a vice grip

747
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: on her wrist, and she's like, come on, come on,

748
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. And now memory serves me correctly, so um,

749
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: she's like, id it got started getting hot, and I'm

750
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: telling her it's hot. I don't know if I can

751
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: handle it's really hot, and they continue, though they continue

752
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: to walk down this corridor. But then the kid told

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Speaker 1: me that she couldn't take it anymore. She said she

754
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: felt like if she took one more step, she was

755
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: going to start on fire. And the little girl was

756
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: getting like the sinister grin, like let's go, You're gonna

757
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: love that type of thing. She said. The only thing

758
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: I could do was throw myself to the ground and

759
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: start kicking at her and kicked her hands off. I

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00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: had to peel her hands off with her feet that

761
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: she's kicking her, and she's like, hide, and then I

762
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: just got up and started running. But the air was

763
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: so hot in my life, like I was choking on it,

764
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: and I had to really fight to get back to

765
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: the wall. And she's like and it was solid rock, like,

766
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: oh no, like the path ended at this solid rock.

767
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: And she's like, but this is where we came from.

768
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: And she's like, I have to get through here. I

769
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: have to get through here. And she's like, I just

770
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I kind of backed up and I ran full force

771
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: at the wall and I just boom went through it

772
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: and I fell on the floor of my bedroom. She's like,

773
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: and the smell was all on me, and I just

774
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: I was afraid that the girl was going to follow through,

775
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: and she's like, I just like got up. I looked around,

776
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom. She's like, my hair, you know,

777
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: my face, I like washed my face. She's like, I

778
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: just smelled so bad. And she's like, I just went

779
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: back into the room, kept the lights on, and stayed

780
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: up all night long in the bedroom. I'm like, oh, myken,

781
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: So did you tell anybody? She's like, I was just scared.

782
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I was afraid. I think she did tell her parents eventually,

783
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: but told her one family member that told her about me,

784
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: and that's how she got to tell me what had happened.

785
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what a story. It sounded like a half human,

786
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: half alien hybrid, but demonic absolutely. I mean, like, what

787
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: category do you put that in? I mean, but it

788
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: sounded like a hell like place, didn't it. I mean,

789
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: what the heck was that? I don't know, but just disturbing.

790
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: Now this other one, this is when I haven't talked

791
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: about much, but I do have it in my book

792
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: The hat Man. I have like fifty different stories in

793
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: there of the hat Man, and this one it's just

794
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: so so freaky, so absolutely freaky to me because it

795
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: goes to show the various sizes that hat Man can

796
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: come in. Like, most of the time people tell me

797
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: it was about six foot or something. I've even had

798
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: shorter hat Man ories, but usually about six ft, but

799
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: he could also be over twelve fourteen ft tall. In fact,

800
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: the second most common story that I hear if hat

801
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: Man is indoors, which is often his his gig. Um.

802
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: You know, he likes come into our homes because you know,

803
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's not a fair ball game player,

804
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: let's put it that way, Okay, So he likes to

805
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: creep in at night when your guard is down, when

806
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: you're sleep, when you're knocked out and paralyzed. Of course,

807
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: those are his really prime times to come your way,

808
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: all right, I just have to put that out there. Um.

809
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: But often times people will say he was so tall

810
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: that he was hunched over and the middle of his

811
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: back touched the ceiling. That's how tall he is. But

812
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: this story I want to share with you right now

813
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: is absolutely disturbing because it comes to us from a

814
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: native community of people who We're going through a certain

815
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: area of land that I was familiar with them, and

816
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: they were driving in a pickup when all of a

817
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: sudden they spotted hat Man, but they called him walking

818
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: Sam or Sam, and so the natives have this understanding

819
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: of seeing this creature in this certain area apparently, but

820
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: there are a lot of communities that have seen him

821
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: in various areas and have this folklore that lingers about

822
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: there being a man that likes to hang out, but

823
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: isn't always hat Man. I don't know, you know, I

824
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, verdict is out on all of that,

825
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: but gosh, he sure does have a certain emmo, doesn't he.

826
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, so this story, they see him and it's

827
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: like a wooded area and they're driving in a pickup

828
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: and they're like hop into the back of the pickup

829
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: and they're like hit it, run, go, go go. And

830
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: they started revving their car, going as fast as they

831
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: could through some door roads. And imagine a hat man

832
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: so tall, as tall as the trees, nearly from what

833
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: they're described, and he would take one step forward and

834
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: it would almost be able to reach the car. And

835
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: they're speeding, flying through the roads as fast as they

836
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: could go, and he's lurching for him. I mean, this

837
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: is like something like Godzilla is coming after your truck.

838
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: And they could see him clearly coming for him. Have you, guys,

839
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: ever experienced such horror, whether in a real like waking dream,

840
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: or in any other kind of scenario, had something reaching

841
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: for you like that, like hat Man? But to be

842
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: bearing witness with more than one person and they're driving

843
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: a truck trying to go as fast as they can,

844
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: and they're ducking the swipes of freaking hat Man, And

845
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: can you imagine that horror? These are the types of

846
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: things that he does, and he goes after people and

847
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: he haunts people, and what is his goal? It is

848
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: to do everything that you can possibly imagine. And if

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think we'll end it there for

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Speaker 1: which is shadow Folks dot com or Heidi Hollows dot com.

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Speaker 1: Write me about whatever it is that you're experience sting

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Speaker 1: there out of the ordinary. I don't care angels to aliens,

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Speaker 1: me your research, tell me what's on your mind, because

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Speaker 1: this is how we learn, that is how we grow,

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Speaker 1: and this is how we defeat the darker things and

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Speaker 1: welcome the more positive things. So this has been a

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Speaker 1: and always changing. And if it's not your stories, I

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Speaker 1: or even on a line and there's a website you

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Speaker 1: I welcome it and I've gotten some great suggestions and

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you all for that too. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it has been one of those shows

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Speaker 1: my favorites, just talking about these things because it's all

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Speaker 1: about you guys, and it's all about you know, things

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Speaker 1: that we're all pulling into the table and we're solving

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Speaker 1: right all right, Well, you have been listening to Dark

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Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. You guys,

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Speaker 1: stay safe out there. We'll see you next time. Go

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Speaker 1: by now. Well, if you liked this edition of Dark

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