1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Laurie came in. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Lauren L. Rosa and this 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: is the latest with Lauren L. 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Rosa. 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, 9 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and all of the conversations that. 10 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Shake the room. Baby. 11 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna start how we always start, 12 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: low Riders. We gotta check in behind the scenes of 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the grind. I am actually recording right now from one 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: O three point five to beat in Miami. 15 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm in Miami, y'all because we're going on. 16 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: A cruise today. So today I will disembark. I think 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: that's the word you use for cruise, right, Okay, Yeah, 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: today I will disembark on a cruise with fim It Forward. 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Film It Forward is a program, an organization, a movement 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: created by Heather Lowry. Heather Lowry if you don't know her, 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: because she's very much behind the scenes, but she is 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: that girl. She's from Delaware for so yeah. And then secondly, 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: you know she's done a lot in the entertainment space 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: for a long time. Have the lowry was at the 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: hymn of some of your biggest tours and artist performances 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: as she led, uh, you know the charges at Live Nation, 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, and Live Nation puts on a lot of 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: those in person performances. But you know, as of recent 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I feel like her brand, Femit Forward, has grown hugely 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: and it becomes. 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: Such a huge success. 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Femet Forward does the Give Her Her Flowers event every year. 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I believe it's during It's either during the b T 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: weekend or the Grammy weekend, and normally that event goes 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: viral because she's honored amazing people, you know, Tianna, Taylor, 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Chloe and Holly Bailey, big names, big names, Heather has. 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: She's always been, like I was gonna say, like a 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 1: girl's girl, but I feel like that's such a general 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: term that's just like so easily used. She's always been 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: a person that is, first of all, just her soundation 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: is really for her foundation is really solid. 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: But she's always been a person that. 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Is She's like a hug in real life, Like everything 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: about her feels like a hug. She's super encouraging her 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: temperament until she has to get with you. Is also 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: very like positive and you know, soft, but it's very strong, 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: and I say it's like a hug, and then I 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: say it's strong, y'all. Probably like girl, what how we're 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: running two the same Because when you think about like 50 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: a really good hug when you need it right, it's soft, 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: it's reaffirming, it's you know, it's everything that you need 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: at the time, but also it can strongly change the 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: trajectory of you're feeling in that moment, you're feeling after 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: that moment, and even just how your day was going. 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: One good hug changes everything. And that's what meeting Heather 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Lowry was like for me. I always said that I 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: want to host an artist tour, like it's always been 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: a dream of mine to like team up with like 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a fire female artist. I really would love for it 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: to be a rap girl, but I'm open and go 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: on tour like how do you CALLI went on tour Beyonce, 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: and I know I'm not a DJ, but I would. 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: I just think it would be so far me rocking 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: out with the DJ as the host of the tour 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: and being able to, you know, just go stop to stop. 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why I've always wanted to do that, 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: But when I met Haga Lowry, she had actually booked 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: me to host my first live concert ever for real, 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: for real. I was fresh out of Delaware State University 70 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and HBCU Week, which we've talked about here on the 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: podcast before. Another organization that feels like a hug by 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Ashley Christopher, another Delaware girl. They host these live concerts 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: every year in October and Women's in Delaware where they 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: bring artists to the city and it raises money for 75 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: students that are going to HBCUs and are getting through 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: their four year undergrad and even some graduate programs. 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: At HBCU schools. 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: But I hosted a concert for La in Queen Naija 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: some years ago, and then I did another one for 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: like Rick Rass and you know all these people in 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Heather was at the helm of that. Like literally, I 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: just I really appreciate women who are like that, women 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: who are like they stirn with you when they need 84 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to be, They're honest with you when they need to be, 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: they're strong with you when they need to be, but 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: also like they're real, Like they're real people who are 87 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: giving real advice, who just really care about your well being. 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: People talk a lot about how this industry is so 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: fake and phony, but you really can run across good 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: people in the process of being a good person as 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: well too, and Heather is one of those people. So 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: shout out to her and shout out to Famit Forward 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: and the Femland Cruise. So I'll be there this weekend, 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: and my plan is to bring you guys as much 95 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: sound bites as I can. The first day, like today 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: we toast to you know, all the girls and the 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: black girls being on board and you know, kicking off 98 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: the cruise. But we got Monica SWV and Keishako performing 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: today and that's just day one. So y'all know, I'm 100 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna bring you the latest from the cruise boats. So 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited. If you cannot tell, I'm really excited. I'm 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: in great spirits and I'm just ready to get on 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: into the things. 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: So now let's get on to the latest. 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: All right, y'all. So Kim Newton is back at it again. 106 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: You should be very familiar with Kim Newton. I mean, 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: he has this funky Friday podcast. But Kim Newton, you know, 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: huge football player, super Bowl ring winner. You know, Kim 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Newton has done the things in all aspects of his career. 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: But for some. 111 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: Reason, he just can't seem to talk about women in 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: a way that I think it's fair. If I'm being 113 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: and I have no issue with Kim Newton, but I 114 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: just think his takes of women, although sometimes realistic, it's 115 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: a bit unfair the way he's positioned. And I feel 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: like he knows what he's doing when he's doing it, 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: and it always works. We always get all rouled up. 118 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna let him get me riled up 119 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: the day. Were gonna take a listen to the comment 120 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Let's say women's value get lower the more children that 122 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: they have. Break that down because and I was having 123 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: this conversation, you know, with one of the mother of 124 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: my children, and he's still fine, you know what I'm saying, 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: But like I was telling her, I was like, Yo, 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: the god that you're dating or will date, if he 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: ain't willing to love on these five children that you have, 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: that ain't the guy for you. Because when I came 129 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: into your life, I was willing to accept you and 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: whatever you had. And there's guys that's out there that's 131 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: just going to say my kids, I want you well, 132 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: that ain't how at work. But that's not to say 133 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: that she can't find nobody. I'm pretty sure she has somebody. 134 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Right, But do you feel like it's as the best 135 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: that she could possibly do is she didn't have children. 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, you're talking to a dude that was once in 137 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: her life. I don't feel like she's gonna get better 138 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: than me. That's just my confidence. 139 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: I don't even think it's confidence I have said, and 140 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: I might get eaten alive. I don't think most women 141 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: do better than the father of their children. I really 142 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: don't think that. 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: It's really that's the barometer. 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: So here's my thing with this conversation, women and their 145 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: value and decreasing of it because the kids. It's like, yes, 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: let's just talk about the heart truths first. As a woman, 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: it is a heart truth knowing that when you have 148 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: kids with someone and then you decide to no longer 149 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: be with that person, your experience in the world, your 150 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: experience dating, your experience moving forward in your career, and 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: just in your day to day life is very different 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: than a man with kids, and even that man that 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: had the kids with you, It is very different. Number 154 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: one being because normally what happens. And this isn't all 155 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: the time. Shout out to the you know, single full 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: time dads out there, but normally what happens is, you know, 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: even if the man that you had kids with is 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: superhands on and is a great dad as them, the 159 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: babies came out of your body like as a mom, 160 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, the load is just heavier on your side. 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: And it's not that the man that you had kids 162 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: with is not helping. Let me be very when I 163 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: say that, it's just it's just different. And I don't 164 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: have kids, so you know, y'all like who she talk 165 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: got no kids? Yeah, I don't have kids, but I 166 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: have friends with kids who you know, are working through 167 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: situations where it didn't work out with the with the 168 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: father their children. I have family members you know that 169 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm very close to who you know I have that 170 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: have gone through these things and being there and seeing 171 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: what they're going through and seeing how they like rebuild 172 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: their lives after it is very different. 173 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: Now. 174 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I do know men who have been in the same 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: position where not that they're single full time dads, but 176 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: these are men who have decided that you know, they're 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: no longer going to be in a situation where they're 178 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: in a family unit, right, and then they go out 179 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and they want to date and they want to rebuild 180 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: their lives, and it's difficult on both sides. 181 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: But if we're being honest, y'all, y'all. 182 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Look at single women with kids way differently than y'all 183 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: look at a single man with kids, as long as 184 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: he got that baby mama under control and he can 185 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: afford you and whatever he got to do over there 186 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: on the other side, for most women, it's. 187 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: Not an issue at all. 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: However, I wish I had one of my homegirls here 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: right now, however, and maybe we'll have this conversation when 190 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: we get on the cruise as well too. I think 191 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: this might be a great conversation to bring amongst the 192 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: group of women. I'll be Bill Monks, and I just 193 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: gotta figure out how I'm gonna do it sound wise 194 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: and all that. 195 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that. 196 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: Because one of my friends that's with me right now, 197 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: she was actually we ride dinner last night and she 198 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: was having a conversation, you know, and her child is 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: older and she has a great co parent, like an 200 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: amazing co parent, But she was saying, how like, you know, 201 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: because the families were still so intertwined because of her son. 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: It made things very difficult for her and when in 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to move forward because men were not comfortable with 204 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: the fact that families were still intertwined. But I mean, 205 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: y'all have kids together, and their son is to an 206 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: age where they have no choice but to be very 207 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: intertwined because he's older. So he wants to be with 208 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: his cousins on both sides, he wants to be with 209 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: grandma's on both sides. He wants mom and dad as 210 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: certain things. And she she said, you know, that was 211 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: an issue for her and still can be an issue 212 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: for her today sometimes just because not even the relationship 213 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: that her and her child's father have and they have 214 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: a good one, but there's you know, there's boundaries there, 215 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: but just because of the family aspects. And I was 216 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: thinking about my own self, like you know, in dating 217 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: men with kids, one of the things that you have 218 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: to just suck up and get used to. 219 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: And it's like you want it right, like you want 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: a man that. 221 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Has a good relationship with his mother, with the mother 222 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: of his kids, and with the family of his kids 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: on the mother's side, because you want the best for 224 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: the child want you love the man. You love the child, 225 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: but also too, you want peace for that man. If 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: you really with him and you love him, you want 227 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: to be with him, you want peace for him, and 228 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: that's normally what brings peace. However, it can be uncomfortable. 229 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: It can be very uncomfortable because you have to trust 230 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: blindly like you already trust him blindly, and being vulnerable 231 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: because your heart isn't it And y'all know how that go. 232 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: But when there's another woman who emotionally this man is 233 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: tied to, even if they're not together because they share children, 234 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: it's just different, especially because those emotions are things if 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: you guys don't have kids, those emotions are things that 236 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: you really like. That's something that they have together, and 237 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: that causes fear for a lot of people. I've been 238 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: there tooo, I've been there, but I think as women 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: were like, he'll handle it and it's okay and we'll 240 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: figure it out. I've never thought about any man that 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: I've met with kids. My natural conversation has never went 242 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: to the value of that man. 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: Ever. It never but with women it does. 244 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: And it's because number one, the relationships that men are 245 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: just not okay with the relationships that you have to 246 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: upkeep because you have children with someone the same way 247 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: that women are. Number Two, if we being honest, men 248 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: just don't want to take care of nobody kids. And 249 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I think people left that part out of what Kim 250 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: Newton was saying because the way he got into this, 251 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: he was actually talking about a conversation he was having 252 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: with one of the mothers of his children. So and 253 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: all these audios are on the It's Giving podcast with 254 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Sarah uh Fintanote or Fintonitt. I probably am saying her 255 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: last thing wrong. I apologize Sarah, but her podcast is 256 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: really good. I feel like her conversations really they get 257 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: the people going. But yeah, listen, I don't Yeah, I 258 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: told you on the opening of this this Kim and 259 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: some of his statements are not my favorite. But if 260 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: we're being honest, I understand where he's coming from because 261 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: men don't be wanting to take care of them babies 262 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: if them babies not theirs at all. 263 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: And also too, I don't know, there's just this. 264 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Like double standard sexually about a man being able to 265 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: go out and conquer the world and create children and 266 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: create all these homes even if he doesn't stay in them, 267 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and that's a man. That's what men do versus a woman. 268 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Like men look at you if you're a woman with like, 269 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, children and your relationship didn't work, even if 270 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: it's just one you share children with one man, not 271 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: even multiple men, because that's a whole other conversation too. 272 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: They love to you know, that's the whole thing. It's 273 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: always like, well, what happened? What didn't work? Kim is 274 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: not saying nothing that people haven't said before. It just 275 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: is annoying to hear. But the reason why I was 276 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: saying that it's unfair in the beginning of this podcast 277 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: is because I think men never take into account all 278 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: the things that women have to do for us to 279 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: even be valued in the first place, especially Black women. 280 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: And I know Cam talks in this same podcast episode 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,239 Speaker 1: about men and you know, men not being loved unconditionally 282 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Black men and only being looked at as providers. Will 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: get to that, but I think for a lot of men, 284 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it's like women have to do. So it's like, okay, 285 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: if I am if i am working a career and 286 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm good at what i do and I'm making good 287 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: money and I'm riting for myself and I am self sufficient, 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: and I have standards, and I want you to come 289 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: to the table with something I might be. You know, 290 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: those girls are out it or outlisted, right, Like most 291 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: of the time, those women are looked at as like 292 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: difficult or uh, we understand why you're single, or too 293 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: much attitude, or your standards are too high. Right, So 294 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: you have that pocket, and then you have the pocket 295 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: of Okay. I'm a woman who decided that I wanted 296 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: to be a career wife and mother, and I've dedicated 297 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: my life to this man, and I've built this family 298 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: with this man, and then one day it just doesn't 299 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: work and he decides to leave or I decide to leave, 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: and now I'm starting from scratch. So I'm, you know, 301 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: starting from scratch of like figuring out career and who 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: I am and what I have going on. And then 303 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: those women are put in a box of okay because 304 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: you aren't sometimes financially stable. The way that a man 305 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: that you may meet is because those women, you know, 306 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: may look for a man to take care of them, 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: which I'm not knocking, you know, but I'm just making 308 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a difference in lifestyle. So those women might be like, Okay, look, 309 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get myself together. I won't be self sufficient, 310 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: but I'm used to being a wife and a mother 311 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: to a man that takes care of everything and brings 312 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: everything home. It is very hard nowadays to find a 313 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: man that will do all of that and will still 314 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: treat you as if you are as equal of a 315 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: human being as he. Is, very very hard to find 316 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: that those type of men. Child that is I was 317 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: gonna say, that's so old school, but even old school, 318 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the whole like gender. 319 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: Equality, like that whole thing was always a thing. 320 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: But I think nowadays men it's so scared the way 321 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: that men try to control you with money. So it's 322 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: like it's hard, like you can't be this, like you 323 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: can't be too much of the I got it all 324 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: figured out. I need you, but I got to learn 325 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: how to need you, and you can't be too much 326 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: of the I need you because now you've got to 327 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: be scared of like how much will you be controlled? 328 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Because of that? 329 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: And then you got kids too as well, so you're 330 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: making decisions based off of your children and trying to 331 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: make sure they're good, not even about yourself. And in 332 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: all these situations, I've never once talked about value, because 333 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I've only talked about things that devalue us, like I 334 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: can only speak from my experience and saying that, like 335 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I feel like it's always a fight for us to 336 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: have valued conversation. Then there's like the whole like fertility 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: conversation and the time clock and your time clock and 338 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: your age devalues you. 339 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: As a woman. 340 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: The older men get it's like, oh my god, he 341 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: got hisself together, he seasoned, he's ready to we just 342 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: he's ready to settle down. We just heard Clifton Power 343 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: say he just learned how to love somebody at seventy 344 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: years old, somebody you know, younger than him, who was 345 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: looking just for stability, not even just financially and like physically, 346 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: but like looking for stability and love and being able 347 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: to be vulnerable Clift and power. Hey, I mean he's 348 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: providing well for himself. You know, he's not a bad 349 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: looking older man, but he's telling you, I'm finally at 350 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: the age where I want to be fully about somebody 351 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and about a family and about all the things. 352 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: That's what a woman wants. But he's seventy. A woman at. 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Sixty five fifty years old that is single and still 354 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. It's like, m what was 355 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: wrong with her that she never got herself together. We 356 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: always hear from men and women. I've always been told 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: because you don't want to end up sixty five, seventy 358 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: and alone. No one tells men that. Nobody's like nobody. 359 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: I've never heard my brother or any of my male 360 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: friends be like, you don't want to end up seventy 361 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: and alone. I think we just assume that men will 362 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: always conquer and will always figure it out. And even 363 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: when we do speak to men about getting it together 364 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: and not wanting to be alone, it's never from a 365 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: devalued place. 366 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: For women. 367 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: It's like once you get you know your age clock 368 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: going to run out, no more babies, menopause. It's always 369 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: these like detractor things. So I for me, I've had 370 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: to change the conversation. And that's what I mean by fairness, 371 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: Like I think when people have these conversations, you can 372 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: be honest, but like less have a full conversation about 373 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: like how we even ended up toot where like devaluing 374 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: women because of babies that they have a gift to 375 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: the world, Like literally women are birth in human beings, 376 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, how many women don't make Black women don't 377 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: make it through childbirth. And we tell we out here, 378 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: we out here at the top of our lung sand. 379 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: Because you met it through childbirth and you brought this 380 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: beautiful baby into the world, your value has now decreased. 381 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: That is insane to me. 382 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: When a man welcomes to his child into the world, 383 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: especially if it's a boy and a junior. Oh my god. 384 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: The kingdom continues. It's like lion King when they hold 385 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: up you know, uh, what's the lion King's son Simba 386 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: when they hit look y'all, it's been a minute. 387 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm thirty four. 388 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: When they hold up Simba over you know, the whole 389 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: like the rock, it's like. 390 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Yes, the kingdom continues. The last name continues. We don't 391 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: even get talked about like that. 392 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: We get devalue because we had a baby. So let's 393 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: be fair. My whole thing is like, look, go ahead, 394 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: have the conversation. 395 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: Do what you do, boo. 396 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Kim is really good at Kim Doton is really good 397 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: at what he does. Though, like I have any time 398 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: I ever talk about him in the moments that he 399 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: has like this, I always say that man knows what 400 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: he's doing. 401 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: He's really good at the content thing. 402 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: But let's be fair when we have the conversation and 403 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: not just talk about, Okay, women are devalued because of 404 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: children or the more children they have, right, Let's talk 405 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: about like how we got there and how unfair it 406 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: is that men aren't either, because, let me tell y'all something, 407 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: the older and more responsible for my life and myself 408 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: I get. I don't want nobody that comes with a 409 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: lot of anything. You gotta have it together at period, 410 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: so you can have kids, but please have it together 411 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to how you take care of your children, 412 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: the relationships with the children's mother, the like, there's a 413 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: lot to it. Were not just accepting anything anymore. We 414 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: have in the same conversations there are women literally that 415 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: don't want nobody with care. They don't want it. They 416 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: don't because of the baggage that it comes with. And 417 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I think that's another conversation as well too. And we 418 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: talked about it a bit when I said, men don't 419 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: be wanting to take care of nobody else's babies. They 420 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: look at certain things as baggage. But like everybody comes 421 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: to baggage, you just pick and choose who shit you 422 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: want to deal with, and a lot of it cut boil. 423 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: All boils down to how things are being handled. If 424 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: a woman has children and she is handling her business 425 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: and she has, you know, things going on and things happening, 426 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: and it is not you know, messing up how you 427 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: date her, how you court her, the time that you 428 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: spend together. It would be so nice to not be devalued. 429 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because I've also experienced life 430 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: as well too. We can't even be single out here 431 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: dating no more. If you single and you out here dating, 432 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be so I mean, you should already be 433 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: selective about who's entering your space and your body, but 434 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: you gotta be even careful about how you talk about 435 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the experience you had dating, because we should, as women, 436 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: be able to date, experience, learn grow, know what we like, 437 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: what we don't like. But please be careful how you 438 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about it when you meet that the men that 439 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: you're really trying to be with, because your experience with 440 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: other people even devalues you too, Like we got to 441 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: be so careful. We got a tiptoe so much, yo. 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Now let's get into it. I'm gonna end this with 443 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: a point that Kim Newton brought up in the same 444 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: interview where he talks about men and black men's specifically 445 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: not experiencing unconditional love. 446 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: Mistic. 447 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: Now watch an episode with you and Tdjkes and you 448 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: said you don't feel like you can ever take the 449 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: mask off. You can only do that with your children. 450 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: Do you feel like that robs you of your humanity? 451 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: No, because that's the only feeling that I have where 452 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: it's unconditional. 453 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 454 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: Expectfully, any man, any provider, can't agree with this statement. 455 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: There's no such thing as unconditional love. You only get 456 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: that from very few people on this earth. One of 457 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: those group of people are your parents. Lucky if they 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: love you unconditional, you commit a crime, they love you. 459 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: You are failure you you do something that's against their will, 460 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: they still love you, right, and then that's your children. 461 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: Like we go different places. I get accolades, I get awards, 462 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: I get you know, certain experiences, and a lot of 463 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: people put me on the pedestal. I don't know why. 464 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: But to my children that's Daddy. To other people it's 465 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: oh my god, this can do, oh my this, And 466 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: they don't care nothing about that. They don't want that. 467 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: Only thing they want is time. And that mask only 468 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: comes off for them because they see through the minutia. 469 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: They see through like man, welcome to fourth and one, 470 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 3: what like hey, welcome to fucking Friday. They see first take, 471 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: they see today hey one or six sport? They see 472 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: all that, all those characters that you may see online, 473 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: My children just see me. When you're dealing with other entities, 474 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: whether relationship wise, wives, girlfriends, significant others, partners, if your 475 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: husband don't do right by you, there's only a certain 476 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: amount of time where you're just gonna say all right, no, 477 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna keep dealing with this now. Well, with 478 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: your children, they still gonna choose you. And that's the 479 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: true essence of what unconditional love is. And that's I 480 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: said it. People think it, and you can't find another 481 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: source that will love you regardless of who you are. 482 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: And that's what I mean by. 483 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at this comment at all. 484 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: I do think it's a little gas lighted, especially because 485 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Kim Newton is an a relationship with a woman who 486 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: has just given him to babies. Who I mean, I 487 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: don't know her personally, but there's been a lot that 488 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: she has had to endure publicly because of some of 489 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: his statements, and she still right to die for the man. 490 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: She has to love him down and very unconditionally. That 491 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: is probably like my only pushback on it. But the 492 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: reason why I don't have an issue with the statement 493 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: is because I do have a lot of male friends, 494 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: and even like my boyfriend, like we I all the time, 495 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I feel like one of the things that I love 496 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: doing and I don't get it right all the time. 497 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: I can be a lot to deal with, but one 498 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: of the thing I love doing is just like reminded 499 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: him that like he's like God's gift to the world, 500 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: because what I learned from my brother. Actually, recently, my 501 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: little brother we were having a conversation just about his 502 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: feelings and we had never done that, but he was 503 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: going through some things and he was just like, y'all, 504 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: don't ever hear me. 505 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: And then I'm like, well, I want to hear you. 506 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: Let me listen. 507 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: We had a conversation and it broke my heart to 508 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: hear him feel like he wasn't valuable to us because 509 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: of what he couldn't do physically, And I'm like, oh 510 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: my god, I don't even expect physical things from you, 511 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: like my love has nothing to do with any of that. 512 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: But as a man, I think, you know how, because 513 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: of how men are some men were really all men, 514 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: I think because of how men are positioned in the world, 515 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: in society and raising their households. It's like, if you're 516 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: not physically doing, you don't feel like much. And as 517 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: a woman, when I'm not achieving my goals, when I'm 518 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: not able to do for myself physically and do for 519 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: the people I love, I don't feel like nothing. 520 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: But men take it on so much heavy. 521 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: And I wish that Like that's one of the things 522 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: that as I get older as a woman and I 523 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: become accountable for my actions and how I make people feel. 524 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh Lord, that has been a journey that I'm still on. 525 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: One of the things that I really really really really 526 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: feel like I try to talk to even my friends 527 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: about is the fact that like, men are not these 528 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: like blank canvases that like don't want to be filled 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: up and filled with color. Like they are just as colorful, 530 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: they're just as vibrant, they're just as loving, you know 531 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: all of that. It's just sometimes they come with this 532 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: like blank canvas, hard exterior because of what they've walked 533 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: through in the world, or how they've been you know, raised, 534 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: or you know, that might have been what they needed 535 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: to do to get to where they were to be 536 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: able to provide and to be able to honestly like 537 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: meet you at a certain point. But you got to 538 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of really peel back that layer because I know, 539 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: as a woman, like I get to the point sometimes 540 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm tired of doing everything for everybody, 541 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: like we naturally, just especially Black women, like we are 542 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: naturally just like nurtures, and we want man, I would love, 543 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: I would love to solve so many things, a real 544 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: cure for cancer being the first of them. Just so 545 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: many things that I would I wish I could do 546 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: so that I could like make sure that people that 547 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: I love can never hurt again and always just be 548 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: happy and always be good. And that's just like the 549 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: nature of a woman to just jump in and be 550 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: like I got it, don't worry about it. 551 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna protect you. I got you. 552 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of times when you do that, and 553 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: you've always done that, you get depleted. You'd be burnt out. 554 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Men get there too, they just don't talk about it. 555 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: We're a lot more vocal, but they get there too, 556 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: they just don't talk about it. So I'm trying to 557 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: be a lot more aware of the fact that that 558 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: feeling is there and that it's a real thing, and 559 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: that even when it's there, they might not even express 560 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: her to talk about it. You kind of just gotta like, no, 561 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: you literally just gotta know. And even when you don't know, 562 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: because there's sometimes where like I might not know what's 563 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: happening with like my boyfriend or my brother, and I'll 564 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: still call and be like, hey, what's up, just checking Well, 565 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: my boyfriend talk to him every day, but my brother, 566 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't talk to him every day, but I'll still 567 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: call and be like, hey, what's up, just checking on you. 568 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Or if I don't call him because we don't talk 569 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: on the phone all the time, I'll just text him 570 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I love you, or you know 571 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: you need anything, like and he, my little brother, is 572 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: the epitome of a little brother. Like he'd be getting 573 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: on my nerves, but I just always want him to 574 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: feel like you got somebody and you got something that 575 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: no matter what you do, have done, where you go, 576 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: where you don't go, will always be right there with 577 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: you and it's us, it's your family, it's me, it's 578 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: your sister, And I went, you know, and I think 579 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: that's what Kim Newton is speaking to. It's like having 580 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: your children make you feel that way. But and you know, 581 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: potentially mom, dad, and some family members, but you don't 582 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: always get that from a lot of people in your 583 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: life as a man, is what he's speaking to. So yeah, 584 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't gonna get all worked up, and 585 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: here I am early in the morning about the head 586 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: of this cruise, all worked up because my value decreases 587 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: because I want to bring life into this world. 588 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: Chiad. 589 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: The people are crazy, honey, the people are crazy. But 590 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: thank y'all for tuning in this episode. I'm Laura l Rosa. 591 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Laura 592 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: l Rosa. You're daily dig on all things pop culture, 593 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: entertainment and conversations. 594 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: That shake the room. 595 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: And I tell y'all every episode, y'all could be anywhere 596 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: with anybody talking about all of these things, but y'all 597 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: choose to be right here with me. And I appreciate 598 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: y'all for that, My Low Riders so much. I'm gonna 599 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: catch yall on the flip side, maybe some bonus episodes 600 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: will come out of this weekend, because I'm headed on 601 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: a cruise, y'all.