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Speaker 1: Kim Anami is a Board certified sexologist and host of

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Speaker 1: the Orgasmic Enlightenment podcast. She has propelled millions into higher

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Speaker 1: stratospheres of connection, sensuality, energy, and aliveness through her online

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Speaker 1: sex and relationship school and intimacy retreats in Bali and Mexico,

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Speaker 1: and she is here with us today to unpack the

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Speaker 1: mystery of the female orgasm. Hi Kim, Hi Kelly, I'm

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Speaker 1: so glad you're here. I've been following you on Instagram

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Speaker 1: for quite some time now, and I feel like the

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Speaker 1: energy you bring to sex is how I want to

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Speaker 1: live the rest of my life, and so I've wanted

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Speaker 1: to get your insight and then also give it to

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Speaker 1: all the listeners because I find it to be very

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Speaker 1: empowering and also hopeful when you're talking about sex.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that. That's my purpose, to

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Speaker 2: really show people what's possible and for everyone to know

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Speaker 2: it's possible for them. And you've probably heard me speak

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Speaker 2: about what I call the Anami guarantee, which is that

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Speaker 2: everyone can so rather than people thinking, oh, I guess

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Speaker 2: some people can do this, or some people can have

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Speaker 2: that kind of orgasm, or some people just have a

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Speaker 2: high libido. Maybe I'm one of those people who doesn't. No,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee that everyone has all these things. Every woman

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Speaker 2: has a high libido. Every woman is multi orgasmic, can

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Speaker 2: have g spot, cervical escorting orgasms, ejaculate that hits the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Every woman can shoot ping pong balls with her vagina.

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Speaker 2: These are not just special skill sets that were granted

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Speaker 2: to some and not to others. If a woman isn't

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Speaker 2: having these experiences, there's reasons why, and there's things we

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Speaker 2: can do about it so that everyone can.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you my listeners are now going, oh, see

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Speaker 1: why she had her on. I want to start with

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Speaker 1: something I read on your website. You say your main

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Speaker 1: message is that everyone ought to be having more sex

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Speaker 1: and better sex, which is kind of what you just

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Speaker 1: said as well. But I want to know what are

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Speaker 1: the reasons that you think that people are not having

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Speaker 1: good sex in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I think for the most part, people don't know what

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Speaker 2: they don't know. And if you look at the dominant

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Speaker 2: messaging what's in media, films, television, rap songs, you see

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Speaker 2: a very superficial, very course expression of sexuality, very limited

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Speaker 2: where I say, you know, look, the big barometric question

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Speaker 2: is does sex leave you feeling energized, rejuvenated, transformed, euphoric,

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Speaker 2: and like it changed your life? And if not, then

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Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong. So the truncated, you know, pump

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Speaker 2: that as a model and they just don't know that,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, in my view, sex is meant to

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Speaker 2: be this spiritually expansive, self actualizing. Yes, full of deep pleasure,

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Speaker 2: but it's actually meant to up elevate the essence of

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Speaker 2: who you are. That when you're in that kind of

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Speaker 2: relationship of what I call gourmet sex, let's say, versus

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Speaker 2: junk food sex, which is what we typically see presented

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Speaker 2: to us, then your whole life changes, your whole being changes,

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Speaker 2: You become more of the person you're meant to be.

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Speaker 2: And so all of my work is a map of

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Speaker 2: how to do that right. How do we unlock those places,

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Speaker 2: shift beliefs, remove blockages, whatever's in the way of that

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Speaker 2: guarantee of that essence coming out that I say we

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Speaker 2: all have.

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Speaker 1: We're going to break down all of these ways too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, guys, let's talk about the female orgasm.

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Speaker 1: Let's just jump right in because that's what we said

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about. But as a sex expert,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming there are a ton of myths that you

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Speaker 1: are just like, I'm so sick of hearing this I

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Speaker 1: can't and that or that you just want to squash.

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Speaker 1: So can you break down some of those myths or

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Speaker 1: the things that you hear women coming to you with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for asking that. Number One would be that

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Speaker 2: some women can and some women can't. Yeah. Right. That

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Speaker 2: becomes a default excuse that people give everywhere, from the

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Speaker 2: allopathic system to so called sex experts, like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: just you know, don't worry about it. If you can't

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Speaker 2: do it, don't worry about it. There's other things you

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Speaker 2: can do. No, I guarantee every woman can't. And we've

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Speaker 2: cervix physically and they can still have cervical orgasms. So

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Speaker 2: in the realm of orgasms, is that the vaginal orgasms

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Speaker 2: and by that I mean g spot ejaculation, squirting orgasms,

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Speaker 2: and then the queen of them all, the cervical orgasm

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Speaker 2: are the most important, most potent, life changing organs for women.

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Speaker 2: And so yes, women can have clitteral orgasms, nipplegasms, but

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Speaker 2: the most changing, like transformative ones that you can have

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, you've basically just told everyone that

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Speaker 2: this without telling me, right. So I'd say those are

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Speaker 2: they're the most important orgasms for women.

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Speaker 1: When you say everyone can, where did we start. I'm

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Speaker 1: just thinking to myself about all the conversations I've had

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Speaker 1: with my friends, and so many women do say that

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Speaker 1: like I just can't or I've told you before the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I have so many women write into me every time

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Speaker 1: I have a sex expert on and say I cannot

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Speaker 1: organ with a partner where did this begin that the

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Speaker 1: female orgasm is just so much tougher to get to

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Speaker 1: us just associate that mentality with the way that it is.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason. I think people who haven't had those

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Speaker 2: say that the C literal orgasm and the standard penile orgasm,

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Speaker 2: because there's a spectrum of orgasms for men as well,

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Speaker 2: Even less inspiration will bring those to the finish line.

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Speaker 2: But the deeper vaginal orgasms require as the price of admission, surrender,

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Speaker 2: really being able to let go, be vulnerable, drop your

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Speaker 2: them solow and then especially with a partner. And so

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Speaker 2: also through extended time spent, right, Like, women are not

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Speaker 2: few minutes, right, And the average sexual encounter is three minutes.

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Speaker 2: Many ejaculate. Seventy five percent of men ejaculate within three minutes.

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Speaker 2: Ninety five percent of men ejaculate within five minutes. No

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Speaker 2: She's barely barely even just gotten a rhythm and then

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Speaker 2: say that if I had gone to some kind of

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Speaker 2: typical sex school, I'd be broken, unsuccessful because I would

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Speaker 2: be parroting information that's largely wrong. But for me, this

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Speaker 2: journey really started in my own bad and in my

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Speaker 2: own relationships, where I had all these different orgasms very

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Speaker 2: understanding this was I'd read something that Freud said, which

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Speaker 2: he said, actually that the more immature female orgasm is literal,

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Speaker 2: that at least gave me some clue, some thread, you know,

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Speaker 2: my own adventures. And then, you know, then I later

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Speaker 2: learned about Tantra and Taoism, and that gave me more

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Speaker 2: of a framework where these cultures looked at sex as

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Speaker 2: that kind of information more reflected what was happening in

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Speaker 2: then me having a really passionate interest in all things holistic,

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Speaker 2: need other authorities to do that for us. All of

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Speaker 2: that combined to create the genre of my work of

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Speaker 2: holistic intimacy and sexuality, but this very self empowered approach

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Speaker 2: that we can find all this from within and we

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Speaker 2: don't need permission from other people. And in fact, most

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Speaker 2: of the time the messaging that we're given around sexuality

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Speaker 2: from external sources is really flawed and very mutated.

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Speaker 1: Well, even you mentioning that most people are having sex

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Speaker 1: for three to five minutes, that's shocked. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: if that's what's happening, no wonder that even pressing for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one hundred percent accurate. If that is the case,

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Speaker 2: like you just pump, dumped and slumped and then fell asleep.

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Speaker 2: Why would I willingly subject myself to something that feels

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel like in those scenarios you would feel

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Speaker 1: it just then becomes a job. You said the words

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Speaker 1: surrender when you were describing these internal orgasms, And I

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's just you know, in some I don't

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Speaker 2: So it depends on the orgasm. If we're talking about

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Speaker 2: literal orgasms, I would say that trajectory is much more

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Speaker 2: similar to a typical penile orgasm. Okay, where eighty percent

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Speaker 2: go of control. You know, because I've still met women

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Speaker 2: like they really have a hard time letting go of

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Speaker 2: those experiences. So everything changes when we get inside the vagina.

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Speaker 2: So then I'd say the ratio flips from eighty percent

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Speaker 2: percent technique. And here's the proof in the pudding, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: people are fascinated with this, and there's all kinds of

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Speaker 2: information online tutorials. Okay, if you take your fingers, you

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Speaker 2: So why aren't all women having these orgasms? Right? If

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Speaker 2: go and so surrender is huge. And if people have

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Speaker 2: Look, I would say two things. One, yes, the jade

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Speaker 2: It comes out of things we don't want to look at,

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Speaker 2: Your organs are not meant to fall out of your body.

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Speaker 1: first steps that we could take as women to really

430
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Speaker 1: prioritizing our own pleasure.

431
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: Well, first of all would be I agree that there's

432
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: this focus on men, even like I said, media films TV,

433
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: what do you see you see a thirty second encounter

434
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: where the guy definitely has an orgasm and the woman

435
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: maybe maybe not.

436
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: And it's never even mentioned. I always think that's so weird.

437
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: It's like, we see that guy have the orgasm and

438
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: then yeah, the scene ends, and you're like, but what

439
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: about her?

440
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: And why is that? Why is that constantly reinforced to

441
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: us right all the time? Right, So we're getting this

442
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: messaging all the time. So, and also the message that

443
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: men are more sexual than women. When we are more

444
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: emotional men and more sexual, women really need to be

445
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: coerced into having sex. They're not that sexual beings. Okay,

446
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going to do a full one

447
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: eighty and say women are insatiable. The natural state of

448
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: women is complete insatiability. What happens when a man has

449
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: an orgasm, he goes.

450
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: And takes a nap.

451
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: Right when the woman has an orgasm, she can have another.

452
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: It's like that DJ callet another one and another one

453
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: and another one. It is endless. She has no limit.

454
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: So you know when men joke like oh they need

455
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: a few girls, and like, bitch, you can handle a

456
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: few girls. It's women who can handle none of not

457
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: that I'm promoting this as as like a like a

458
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: preferable option, but in theory, women are the ones who

459
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: could handle multiple men, where men can't even handle one woman.

460
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, one ejaculation and they're boomed down

461
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: for the count. They have hours to recover, you know,

462
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: the average guy. So there's that to start with, is

463
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: that women actually are very innately sexual beings, and there's

464
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: a whole amount of programming out there telling them that

465
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: they aren't, and the whole Madonna horror programming. Right, so

466
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: women are either sluts or they're virgins, and there isn't

467
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: really this happy medium of a voracious, healthy, sensual woman.

468
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: You have to create that. So that's part of it

469
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: is just even looking at the programming that you've been

470
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: given and thinking, Okay, do I buy into this? And

471
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: you might because it might have been your life experience

472
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: thus far. So having what I've said earlier, the conscious

473
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: self exploration practice, a Yoni egg routine, and then as

474
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: you build that connection, it moves more into self pleasuring,

475
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: meaning as you start to get to know yourself and

476
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: experience pleasure you d no then you can go more

477
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: actively into the ascent and pursuit of these orgasms, right,

478
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: and then as you start to have them, you nourish yourself.

479
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: There's a term that I coined, the well fucked woman,

480
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: which is that when a woman is true satiated and

481
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: activating her sexual energy, she changes, right. She goes from

482
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: being what guys might think of as like a naggy girlfriend,

483
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, or a bitchy girlfriend. I'm like, yeah, you're

484
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: just not fucking her well enough. If that's what you've got,

485
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: it's actually.

486
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: The biggest comeback of all times. Well sorry, you didn't

487
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: fuck me well enough.

488
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: Hundred percent. It's so accurate because if a woman is

489
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: being fully sexually satisfied to the height of her potential,

490
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: which is a lot you need a beast of a

491
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: man to actually satisfy a woman, then she is your

492
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: biggest ally supporter. She's easy going, she's generous, she's kind.

493
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: She's going to drop to her knees and give you

494
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: blowjobs all the time because she appreciates you for fucking

495
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: the shit out of her and activating this confidence, this superpower,

496
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: this beautiful feminine energy that all awakens in her when

497
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: she is a well fucked woman, an underfunxed woman is

498
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: going to be the opposite. She's yelling at shop clerks,

499
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: she's freaking out at people in traffic. Right, she's going

500
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: to humiliate her man in public and berate him in

501
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: front of friends and family. Like you, you have not

502
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 2: seen the start of this yet. You know what I mean, too,

503
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: pump chumped me.

504
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: You're done. And this isn't even conscious.

505
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Right, They're just doing this stuff and they both don't

506
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: know consciously. He thinks she's a bit. She just gets

507
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: so irritated and resentful at him, but it's really he

508
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: is not fucking her well enough and has no idea

509
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: how to, and she doesn't even realize because she's been

510
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: given no permission to be this massive sexual goddess that

511
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: she truly is inwardly. And then they both are like

512
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: the blind leading the blind, right, And so so much

513
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: of my work is again like showing people what's possible.

514
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: This is really the natural state of things, is that

515
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: he's doing his job to make sure that you're always sad, satisfied,

516
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: beyond satisfied. And then you in turn gift him with

517
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: all the radiance of your true feminine energy, and that

518
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 2: supports and nourishes him like a superpower, you know, he

519
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: becomes turbocharged with that energy that you now give back

520
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: to him, and then we have the beautiful cycle of

521
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Yann and Yang the way it was always meant to be.

522
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: That's how we're meant to be existing together.

523
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense to me. I've never thought

524
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: of it that way, but and almost when you were talking,

525
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, it's just almost like a respect that

526
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: comes from being a well fucked woman because when you're

527
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: there the partner, you look at your partner and you

528
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: want more. Like you said, you're insatiable. So that means

529
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: all the things that you want a gift to him

530
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: because you respect how he's gifting to you. I love

531
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: the Yin and yang like idea there too, because we

532
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: never talk about that, and that is the way it's

533
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be.

534
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful harmony. And the core of that

535
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: is through sex. And that's another issue, is this idea

536
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: that oh, sex is a small part of a relationship.

537
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: It's not the most important thing. No, it actually is.

538
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: It's the core. It's the glue. It is your secret

539
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: superpower connection that you have with each other. You go

540
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: into that liminal sexual space. You have these deep spiritual, otherworldly,

541
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: cosmic experiences and then you emerge out into the world

542
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: as these superheroes, as a superpower couple. I call it

543
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: right where you've activated these energies and skills and talents

544
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: and traits in each other that you've lit up through

545
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: the potency of your connection. And that's what I mean.

546
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: You become the best versions of yourselves. And the secret

547
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: is your bed. That's where it all happens. So that's

548
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: where the magic happens, the alchemy, you know, the full

549
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: fusing of yin and young energy that coming together to

550
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: come out into the world, to come into your states

551
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: of consciousness.

552
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: So that's with a partner. Will you talk a lot

553
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: about self pleasure too, And I'm also thinking about people

554
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: who might not be in a relationship listening to this,

555
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: what is the importance of self pleasure? Because I truly

556
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: still talk to some women who just don't do it

557
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: at all. They have no relationship with themselves in that capacity.

558
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: And I've always found that to be a little like,

559
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say when that comes up,

560
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: but it feels like it has to be a block

561
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: of some sort. Is that accurate. Is this Does everyone

562
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: need to be doing this? You know, like, what's the

563
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: relationship to self pleasure with all of the stuff that

564
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about.

565
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, with the block idea, I

566
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: do think that's true. I think the origin of that

567
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: could be for some people, it's even religious where there

568
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: were strong ideas around not ever touching yourself and there's

569
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: there's issues with that. So it could just be that

570
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: a belief that you've taken in and or it could

571
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: be negative experiences. Let's say you were in a relationship

572
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: that felt violating sexually, even if it wasn't a full

573
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: abuse situation, but even a partnership where it just there

574
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: was a lot of ick. There was a lot of

575
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: duty sex, a lot of obligatory sex, and you're kind

576
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: of like, you don't want to touch that, you don't

577
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: want to go, you know, into those places in your

578
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: body because you don't feel good about them. So that's

579
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: part of it. And then that takes some conscious examination

580
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: to acknowledge where that may have came from, and then

581
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: a leap of faith of say me telling someone okay, look,

582
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: these are the keys to the queendom and your own

583
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: self knowledge and connection is really the foundational part of

584
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: rebirthing yourself as a healthy sensual being. So, yes, having

585
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: a self pleasuring practice when you're single is really important

586
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: because that energy, okay, sexual energy is life force energy

587
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: r Right, it's the energy that creates new life. And

588
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: if you're not making babies with it, or you're not

589
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: in a partnership, it's still important to stay connected to

590
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: that energy and use it as a rejuvenating creative power

591
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: in your life. And so when people talk about being celibate,

592
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: you know, usually the way that's practiced is people are

593
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: celibate without any kind of sexual contact or thoughts or

594
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: they're trying, and then we see where that leads. Right,

595
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: what's the highest percentage of abuse in an institution ever?

596
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: Has to give you a church of course, people who've

597
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: been forced to be celibate. Right, So the correct way

598
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: to be celibate if you don't have a partner is

599
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: self pleasure in a conscious way, in a devoted way,

600
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: in a I'm gonna get to know myself and connect

601
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: to this energy and learn how to use it in

602
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: my life, learn who I am as essential being, and

603
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: then that energy that you start to play with it

604
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: changes you, right, you can have that well focked woman

605
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: are even as a single person. And we have countless

606
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: stories of women where they were self pleasuring the night before,

607
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: had a great experience with themselves. They go out into

608
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: public in sweats, flip flops, hair back in a bun,

609
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: no makeup, glasses, and they get hit on relentlessly, like

610
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: pumping gas and then run across the parking lot to beg,

611
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: beg for their phone number, and they're like, what the

612
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 2: hell Like I'm like, I'm like, you could not look

613
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: anymore like put less put together. And these guys, because

614
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: they're feeling you're now radiating this aura, this aura of beauty,

615
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: of femininity, of magnetism that is literally drawing people to

616
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: you on this energetic level and imbuing you with a

617
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: kind of beauty. And that's the well, that's being a

618
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: well fucked woman. And so then when you're in that place,

619
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: how easy is it going to be for you to

620
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: attract a partner? Right? So much easier if you're tracted

621
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: and inward and like hunched over and like I'm cut

622
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: off from this energy. No one's gonna touch that, or

623
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: if they are, they're going to be at the same

624
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: level of you. Which could be semi traumatized in a

625
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: frozen state, not dealing with their staff, very easily triggered

626
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: and activated. You don't want that. You want to up

627
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: level yourself and come to a new vibration, a new frequency,

628
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: and attract somebody from there. Right, And look, we're all

629
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: works in progress, and no one's ever fully healed. Ever,

630
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: there's always another level to go. In fact, that's what

631
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: the word anami means in Sanskrit. It means there's always

632
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: another level to go in healing. You never reach a

633
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: static place of you're done.

634
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay, here's your go on here, yeah, trophy,

635
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: you're good.

636
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: Like no, it's never like that, So you don't have

637
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: to be like perfect. And you know, think you're ready,

638
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: but you have to put in some effort to get

639
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: that energy revved up and generating a field, an auric

640
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: field that then draws people into you, and you'll know

641
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: you're ready because the men will start to come if

642
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: you build it, they will come. Right.

643
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: It's like you start putting that and.

644
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: They just start dropping out of the sky.

645
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, like, I am so true though it is

646
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: truly this, I've experienced this as well. It is so true.

647
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: Like I have nothing against dating apps, per se, the

648
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: whole online thing. I've never done them. But the reason

649
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: why is because I know that when I'm in that state,

650
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: the men just come from all over the place, even

651
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: you know, and that's, to me, is the best barometer

652
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: to know. Okay, I'm ready because I've been doing this

653
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: inner work, literally inner work, and these men are just

654
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: showing up right about any effort. I'm not seeking them

655
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: out like parking lots, grocery stores, elevator or you know,

656
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: like anywhere is possible because your energy is magnetizing them in.

657
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that we're never fully healed. It's always

658
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: a work in progress, and I would imagine too, that

659
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: could incorporate so many of the different things that we

660
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: go through in life. You know, there's seasons of things

661
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: like sometimes you're in a really great season and things

662
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: they're just flowing and easy, and maybe those are easier

663
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: times to have sex, and then sometimes you're struggling and

664
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: it's not always like the best energetically for you. And

665
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: one of the conversations that I keep having with a

666
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: lot of my friends is menopause. You know, I'm forty three,

667
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: and I'd mentioned this to you before the podcast, because

668
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: you speak about menopause in a way that I've never

669
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: heard anyone else talk about it in relation to sex,

670
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: because so many of my friends are starting to be like,

671
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: I have no sex drive, I don't want to be touched,

672
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, and like we're also at the same time

673
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: having all these menopause symptoms, and you speak about it

674
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: in a way of like, if you're having sex, you're

675
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: not going to have these some So can you talk

676
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: about this a little bit in what your mentality about

677
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: menopause is.

678
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: So my view is that all and I mean all

679
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: reproductive ailments symptoms, things that are out of balance. So

680
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: that means everything from PMS to difficult periods to challenging menopause,

681
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: growth synsus, low libido, PCUS, and ametriosis, all of it,

682
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: Like I reference that woman example earlier, all of it

683
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: has a preceding cluse, meaning some kind of emotional mental imbalance.

684
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: That these are not periods. Were not meant to be difficult,

685
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: menopause was not meant to be a struggle. We're not

686
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: meant to be getting growths on the body. These are

687
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: all expressions of stuck energy and unresolved issues and when

688
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: we resolve them, then they evaporate. It's that easy. So

689
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: over the decades of me doing this work, I've had

690
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: countless women in the menopausal process. And now there's this

691
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: huge focus on perimenopause, which honestly twenty years ago, I

692
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: don't even know where that word came from. Right, it's

693
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: like getting people on the train even earlier and earlier,

694
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: and they've gone through menopause with nary a blip on

695
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: the radar. Meaning if they are well fucked women, or

696
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 2: they're going through this process of learning about these things

697
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: in my work and applying them, they don't have a

698
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: single symptom. The only thing that happens is their period stops.

699
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: They're wet as can be, they're lubricating, libido is still

700
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: crazy high, like to the point where they have to

701
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: bring like extra pairs of panties with them because they're

702
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: soaking through them in the day because they get excited

703
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: and they're wet all the time. And the only thing

704
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: that shifts is they just stop bleeding. That's it, and

705
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: in my view, that is how it's supposed to happen.

706
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Is a transition. Now, the reason I think why so

707
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: many women are experiencing the opposite is one they might

708
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: have already had challenging periods and p max, right, and

709
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: so that's just going to carry on through montopause. Why

710
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: would that change also? And the reason is because they're underfucked.

711
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: They're not having this level of life changing transformative secs

712
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 2: that I say is the default and the norm for

713
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: every woman, or ought to be the norm for every woman,

714
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: and when they do so. I've even had women come

715
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: through my work in the middle of difficult menopads. Right,

716
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: So they are having hot flashes, they are having lubrication issues,

717
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: and they start applying these principles and they shift it

718
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: and they don't want to go on hormones. Right, They're

719
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: coming to me because I'm saying, you can do it

720
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: without hormones. I'm saying that prescribing women hormones for a

721
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: natural state of their life is really I think it's

722
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: actually snake oil, to be honest, Like, I am shocked

723
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: that so many practitioners, even those seemingly in a more

724
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: natural place, are recommending that for women, because it's really

725
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: saying I have zero faith in the woman's in a

726
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: human woman body and that I think it only can

727
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: survive by being heavily medicated. Like what the fuck kind

728
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: of rationale is that? I don't even I feel embarrassed

729
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: for these people that they think that, and they're doing

730
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: this to women and the karmic load that they're getting

731
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: for that, Like how how can you think that? So anyway,

732
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: so when women are sexually connected, they literally glide through.

733
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: It's like it lubricates the entire process. So perimenopause, menopause, postmenopause,

734
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: no hormones, no lube, don't need to go shopping at

735
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: Ann Taylor, you know, like you don't have to do

736
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: any of those things. You can still be a sexy, voracious,

737
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: multi argasmic wet wet wet, wetter than wet we have.

738
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite quotes ever from one

739
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: of our female clients is like, would she say a

740
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: tsunami of wetness is if she's.

741
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: On your website? I mean, I think that's goals, right,

742
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: that sounds amazing and so it's so interesting. I love

743
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying though about I just hate how our

744
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: culture just throws a pill at everything. And I've never

745
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: felt right and again, I'm not fully in any of

746
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: these symptoms. So I don't know how I'll feel at

747
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: a different time, but I've never felt right about getting

748
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: on hormones. I did hormone treatment with some infertility stuff,

749
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, what am I? I knew before I

750
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: did it wouldn't work for my body. I did it.

751
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: I hated it, and I was so right. I should

752
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: have listened to my body. It was so harsh and

753
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel it doesn't feel good to my body,

754
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: and so I wish I would have listened in hindsight.

755
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: But that's how I feel going into this stage of life.

756
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Is like I don't want to throw any more of

757
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: that into my body. I would rather treat it with

758
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: food or natural ways if I need some help. But

759
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I just the being well fucked seems like a better

760
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: option to like, how can that make it worse?

761
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: It's the best option.

762
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: We have this interview.

763
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 2: Oh, she's from the South. You would have you seen

764
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: the one my podcast? It's sixty one Rich and Ask

765
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: Fucked across Alabama.

766
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I have to watch it now. I haven't seen that

767
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: one yet.

768
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: Her name is Michelle, and she is amazing and she

769
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: was in like a not great marriage for like forty years. Yeah,

770
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: and she was fifty nine or sixty and who does that?

771
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Who gets a divorce at that old es?

772
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Actually from the house.

773
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, like so courageous. She does it. She gets

774
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: found my work, dives into it, and then within within

775
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: a year or nine months or something, she'd met this

776
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: man and they start having the most epic relationship you know,

777
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: of her life. And she said she used to need

778
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: to have buckets of lube like by her bedside, you know,

779
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: and now nothing, like they are having sex left, right

780
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: and center all over the house, like through hours long

781
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: sex date.

782
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Not a drop of.

783
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: Lube is ever used. Wow, and no, no, hop like

784
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: none of these symptoms that she's, yeah, like her friends

785
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: have gone through all this stuff and she's like, no,

786
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: hasn't gone through any of it. So it's completely possible.

787
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: And like I.

788
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Said, I think that, and now that I've seen it

789
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: enough enough women going through it to think, okay, just

790
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: say confidently this is the answer, and this is the

791
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: answer that everybody else is missing. So I appreciate other

792
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: advice out there around like working out and high protein

793
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: and it called, Yeah, that valid information, great support, but

794
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: people on that are buy and large always still taking hormones.

795
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: That's always a part of these people's protocols. And that's

796
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: where I'm like, no, you guys are snake oil salespeople,

797
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: because you don't need it. If you're having amazing, life

798
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: changing sex, that trumps everything. Those hormones that you're generating,

799
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: if we want to even look at it that way,

800
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: right through orgasm, through pleasure, all of these high quality,

801
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: powerful hormones you're generating from within, and so they're going

802
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: through the body and they're supporting whatever transition might happen.

803
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: If people want to say to me, oh, but you

804
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: lose this hormone and that, and like, okay, can we

805
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: just think for a moment that the human body going

806
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: through this thing that all women go through, has a

807
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: natural way to reconfigure itself and to make it work

808
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: without needing exogenous supplements hormones for the rest of our lives.

809
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: Like how is that logical? Like that's the part that

810
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: I get confused by. I'm like, how do you think

811
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: that's more logical than thinking that somehow your body has

812
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: a means to do this naturally? We just have to

813
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: figure it out. And the obvious and the clear and

814
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: the actual answer is our sexual energy. But all these

815
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: people which again, to me, they're just admitting that they're

816
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: sexually inexperienced and underfucked that they've never actually had these

817
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: deeper orgasms, they've never actually had these transcendent sexual experiences,

818
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: because if they did, they would realize that that's going

819
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: to want to leap propel them into this other dimension

820
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: where they're like menopause menta, what what are you even

821
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: talking about? Right Like, I don't even like what There

822
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: are cultures in the world who don't even have a

823
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: word for menopause because it's not a thing. It's a

824
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: very North American thing. It's a very manufactured thing. And

825
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: then now like I think the perimenopause thing is now like,

826
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 2: oh no, you're not used to Now there's another ten

827
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: years you have to worry about that you could be

828
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: suffering for. And if you think about it, right, like,

829
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: the allopathic aim with women is to have women on

830
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: hormonal birth control from puberty until death. Right now, they

831
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: suggest going on the birth control pill for even acne,

832
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: you know, age fourteen.

833
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: They suggested for menopause symptoms now, like or period problems.

834
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I've never I can't do birth control either. It's another

835
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: thing my body does not like.

836
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then you do that, and then people try

837
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: to have children, and if they've been on hormonal birth

838
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: control for their whole life, their body doesn't know how

839
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: to produce regular hormones, so they end up going through

840
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: IVF maybe successful, maybe not. And then by the time

841
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: they've had some babies done, it's time. Oh no, you're

842
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: in perimenopause, so now you can go on these hormones.

843
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: Like again, does that really make sense logically that women

844
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: are meant to be medicated their entire lives? Like if

845
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: we were in the future looking back at this, we

846
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: would consider this a barbaric time when we heard these

847
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: kinds of crazy things to women.

848
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: Well, also, if you think about it, the only people

849
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: that benefit are the people that make money off of

850
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: that sex is free. So right, Yeah, I always think

851
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: that about these these things with like menopause or whatever

852
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: the buzzword is. It just feels like it's great that

853
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: we have Western medicine for a lot of things, but

854
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: at the same time it does get overdone to me,

855
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: where everything there's a pill to solve it, but you're

856
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Speaker 1: only solving the symptom. You're not even looking at the root.

857
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Speaker 1: And then we're not looking at why we even got

858
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Speaker 1: into the place that we got, you know, like why

859
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Speaker 1: are these symptoms so bad? Why is my period so bad?

860
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Speaker 1: Is it stuff that I'm eating? And you know, like

861
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Speaker 1: there's all these things that we don't do in our culture,

862
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Speaker 1: in the North American culture. I guess I should say

863
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Speaker 1: that I think contribute to all of these factors that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And that's the thing about the allopathic world.

866
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Speaker 2: It's like there's no emphasis on personal responsibility. What have

867
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Speaker 2: I done? What have my lifestyle choices? What have I

868
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: made that could have created this situation? And then also

869
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: that they are the intermediary. It's like having a priest

870
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: between you and God, it's having the doctor between you

871
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: and your body. Then emphasis is never about you. How

872
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Speaker 2: can I help you to learn your own body more

873
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Speaker 2: and reconnect with it. It's no, I'm the expert, you know,

874
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Speaker 2: Outsource all your power to me and I'll give you

875
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Speaker 2: a pill. Yeah, doesn't even fix it. It just temporarily

876
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: usually replaces one symptom for another. You get rid of this,

877
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Speaker 2: but now you've got this mm hm.

878
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Speaker 1: Well, I know we're running out of time, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to touch on men for just a second,

880
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Speaker 1: and because I know there's some men who are listening

881
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Speaker 1: or some wives that are listening that are going to

882
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Speaker 1: send it to their man. But what can men do

883
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Speaker 1: if they are like, I want my woman to be

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Speaker 1: well fucked? Where do they learn? You know, I don't

885
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Speaker 1: know that there's that many resources for men either, So

886
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Speaker 1: what would be one suggestion you have to give to

887
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Speaker 1: men who want their partner to be in this situation

888
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Speaker 1: that we're talking about as a well fucked woman, but

889
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Speaker 1: don't really know where to start.

890
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Speaker 2: So my programs I have Vaginal Kung Fu, which is

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Speaker 2: the Jada coming together for couples, how to be a

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Speaker 2: well fugged woman, Sexual Mastery for men, and then I

893
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Speaker 2: have Sexy Mama, which is a holistic pregnancy and orgasmic

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Speaker 2: birth program. So I have two programs that are set

895
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Speaker 2: up for men. I love working with men and teaching men,

896
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Speaker 2: and there's so much out there, and there's so many

897
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Speaker 2: earnest men out there who really do want to learn,

898
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Speaker 2: so they can sign up for my programs if you

899
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Speaker 2: haven't already. My Orgasmic Enlightenment podcast has tons of content

900
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Speaker 2: for men than couples singles, so you can start listening

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Speaker 2: to that that's free. My Instagram often has tons of

902
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Speaker 2: information on it as well. There's so much free content there.

903
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Speaker 2: And then depending on the relationship, right, like sometimes one

904
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Speaker 2: person is more committed to growth and the other person

905
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Speaker 2: is less. It's ideal if both people are excited and

906
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Speaker 2: ready to just jump into this work and then you

907
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Speaker 2: can do it together, whether that's signing up for a

908
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Speaker 2: program together or listening to a podcast together and then

909
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: talking about it afterward, letting that start the conversation, or

910
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Speaker 2: if the partner is less on board, then you start

911
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Speaker 2: the process. You invite them, but you start doing that

912
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Speaker 2: work on your own and then usually that elicits shifts

913
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Speaker 2: in you that the partner picks up on and they're

914
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Speaker 2: like intrigued by it. It's going on over there, you know.

915
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Speaker 2: So it's really that initial education piece that I said before,

916
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Speaker 2: like knowing what you don't know and just listening to

917
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Speaker 2: these episodes, hearing interviews from what we call our well

918
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Speaker 2: fucked all stars like Michelle, people who've had these epic

919
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Speaker 2: experiences with applying this work in their lives, seeing what's

920
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Speaker 2: possible right to start to open your mind to okay,

921
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Speaker 2: things can be so much different than what I thought,

922
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Speaker 2: there is hope, there is a reason to be wildly optimistic,

923
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Speaker 2: and to also then remember the Nami guarantee. They did it,

924
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Speaker 2: you can do it. All the things I talk about,

925
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Speaker 2: every single one of them is available to every person.

926
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Speaker 1: It's available to every person. I just love that mentality. Well,

927
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Speaker 1: Kim and Ami, thank you for being here. I really

928
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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. And I'm gonna put all of

929
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Speaker 1: her information in the description of this podcast, so you

930
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Speaker 1: guys go follow along. The podcast is great. Instagram is great.

931
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been following for years, so I've

932
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Speaker 1: learned a ton and you can see Kim lifting all

933
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Speaker 1: sorts of stuff with her vagina, which is fascinating in

934
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Speaker 1: and of itself. So go check all of that out.

935
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Speaker 1: And thank you so much again for being here.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. I really enjoyed our conversation. Kelly, thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me.