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Speaker 1: We like to welcome every one to another episode Against

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my guy Jill. Trump

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Speaker 1: is in big trouble, man. Trump is in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what ain't undead? What Trump

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Speaker 1: done did? Now?

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Speaker 2: They've been slapping Trump left and right a lot lately. Man,

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Speaker 2: What's going on next?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? This is Donald Trump's fourth criminal indictment in five months.

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Speaker 1: But in a few ways the charge is brought by

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Speaker 1: Georgia grand jury on Monday are some of the heftiest

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Speaker 1: he's facing. Legally, they may be trickier for the former

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Speaker 1: president to wiggle out of, and politically they pose fresh

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Speaker 1: narrative challenges even for a candidate who has a solid

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Speaker 1: grip on the GOP primary race. He's in trouble, man,

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Speaker 1: They're saying. What they're saying now is that you know

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Speaker 1: how he usually wiggles its way out of stuff. Mm

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Speaker 1: it may it be a little bit more difficult for him.

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Speaker 1: He may actually go to jail behind us man. Hum if.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what I believe is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna claim to be the

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Speaker 1: biggest political pundit on the planet. But what I think

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Speaker 1: is gonna happen is you're gonna have one of these

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Speaker 1: other nominees jump on the back of this right here,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be their whole campaign platform. Is I'm

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Speaker 1: going to I'm going to exonerate Donald Trump if I

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Speaker 1: get an office, and all the Trump supporters gonna go

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Speaker 1: vote for him.

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Speaker 2: That could be a slick way to try to get

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Speaker 2: ahead of you know, because like you said, I don't

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Speaker 2: even think with all the shit that's going on with

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Speaker 2: DT right now, he's still running, you feel me. He's

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Speaker 2: still campaigning and running. So he's still running and doing it.

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Speaker 2: I guess, you know, you know, but when when you

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Speaker 2: got that power, man, you know, you know, motherfucker's wig

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Speaker 2: a lot of shit when you in those positions. That's

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Speaker 2: that's why I said I've never gotten too heavy in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but check this out though. This is what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The butter door dog. Trump has been charged alongside eighteen

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Speaker 1: the defendants, ranging from his high profile alleys like his

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Speaker 1: former attorney Rudy Giuliani, a former White House Chief of

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Speaker 1: Staff Mark Medals, to Trayvian Cutty, a former publicist who

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Speaker 1: pressured an election worker. The falster admitted committee election fraud.

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Speaker 1: See Trayvian Cutty. She used to be Kanye West's publicist.

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Speaker 1: She was the main one down there pressing this old lady.

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Speaker 1: Even went to her house and said, this woman needs protection.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to scare the old lady. So she

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Speaker 1: was really trying to press her into doing some shit

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Speaker 1: she wasn't supposed to do. It was crazy, man. But

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Speaker 1: you know, speaking of politics, and this has very little

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Speaker 1: want to keep Russia from gaining the strongholds. That's our

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Speaker 1: biggest enemy or whatever. Right, But what I'm not understanding

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Speaker 1: we've given millions of dollars to the Ukraine. Right now,

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Speaker 1: they just named they just said that they're going to

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Speaker 1: give him another two hundred million for the security fund

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Right. We had the fires in Hawaii, the

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Speaker 1: biggest fire ever in this country. From what I believe,

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Speaker 1: people don't die, people don't lost their homes. Everything is

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Speaker 1: what our president. You know what our great president just did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just sent them a check for seven hundred whole dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: several hundred whole dollars. You just just think about this.

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Speaker 2: You don't got flamming, you got families jumping in the

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Speaker 2: motherfucking ocean and shit, because everything is burnt. What the

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Speaker 2: fuck is seven hundred dollars is gonna do? That's the thing, bro.

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Speaker 2: Now now you sent two hundred million over to the Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I don't That's why I say I don't understand politics

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Speaker 2: because I don't understand how or who decides who get what?

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Speaker 1: Like do they? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Because you know they got that saying that the enemy

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Speaker 2: So I guess they looking at it like because we

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Speaker 1: Exactly because me and you pay a lot of taxes

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Speaker 2: And then my thing is this, like right they set

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're going to have the homegirl tisling

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Speaker 1: Because all I can see right now is living out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have used two hundred million. But then

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Speaker 2: motherfucker's always undercutting shit when it comes to us here,

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Speaker 2: you know, find out, you know, who decides, you know

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Speaker 1: And that's where Teeslam is great at. You know what

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Speaker 1: the whole political landscape for the average person sitting there. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: credulous society right now, man, to where people would rather

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Speaker 1: Nowadays it's not about the truth. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what it's came down to, man, there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful and shit like the wrong

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Speaker 1: Black Tone's father, Rest in peace, Earnest. But that's just

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Speaker 1: At the time, it said that the Conservative ship they

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Speaker 1: had would go on till he was twenty five or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Or a judge dissolved it. So apparently they are still

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Speaker 2: running the Conservative ship. That's that Britney Spears shit. It's

435
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Speaker 2: that same shit. Now look at this. I kind of

436
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Speaker 2: ride with the like I don't know. Again, not to

437
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Speaker 2: call Michael no lie right.

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Speaker 1: Two He told the local Memphis newspaper that Michael Lewis,

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Speaker 1: the author of the book that The Blindside Felm is

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Speaker 1: based on, gave his family half of the share of

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Speaker 1: profits from the book, saying that everybody in the Tweed

442
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Speaker 1: family got an equal share, including Michael, of about fourteen

443
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars each. You know them book advances aren't really

444
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Speaker 1: that big, right, So okay, we were never yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me go on. We were never offered money. We never

446
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Speaker 1: asked for money. My money is well documented. You can

447
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Speaker 1: look up how much I sold my company for it. Two,

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Speaker 1: he said the Conservative ship at the center of the

449
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Speaker 1: petition filed money. Two, he said, had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with the movie, telling the Daily Memphian it was a

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Speaker 1: way to satisfy the Ncuba. When it appeared o'here might

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Speaker 1: play football at the University of Mississippi, Michael was obviously

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Speaker 1: living with us for a long time, and then ncuble

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Speaker 1: A didn't like that too. He said. They said the

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Speaker 1: only way Michael could go to the Old Myss was

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Speaker 1: if he was actually part of the family. Twi said

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Speaker 1: he sat Michael down and told him, if you're planning

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Speaker 1: to go to old Myths or even considering Old miss

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Speaker 1: we think you should have to be part of the family.

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Speaker 1: This would do that legally, TWI said. If oh Here

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Speaker 1: wants to end the Conservative ship now, he would of

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Speaker 1: course be willing to end it. He also told The

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Speaker 1: Daily Memphian that he began his sense of growing distance

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Speaker 1: between old Here and the two we's starting a year

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Speaker 1: and a half ago. We're devastated. It's upsetting to think

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Speaker 1: we would make money off of any of our children,

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Speaker 1: tw he said. But we're going to love Michael at

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, just like we loved him at sixteen.

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Speaker 2: So at thirty seven, why are you still running his shit?

470
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Speaker 2: Why do you feel that when he turned twenty five,

471
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Speaker 2: Why didn't you just say we're gonna break this shit.

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Speaker 2: Why is it fucking thirty years later and you're still

473
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Speaker 2: holding his shit?

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Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, no, this is his side. This is what

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Speaker 1: he's saying while the blind side went on to make

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Speaker 1: over three hundred million at the global box office. O'here

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Speaker 1: alleged he received nothing from the film, while the Two

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Speaker 1: Wee's made millions, according to the petition. Additionally, in February

479
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Speaker 1: of this year, O'Hair said he discovered that legally he

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Speaker 1: was not actually a part of the Towey family. In

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Speaker 1: the film, it was portrayed that O'Hare was adopted by

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Speaker 1: the Two We's after he begins sporadically staying with the

483
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Speaker 1: family the summer after his junior year of high school.

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Speaker 1: According to the petition, the Twoey's invited O'Hare to live

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Speaker 1: with them next July and was later presented with the

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Speaker 1: Conservative ship. What he signed, however, unknown to Michael until

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Speaker 1: after February twenty twenty three, were not adoption papers order

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Speaker 1: equivalent of adoption papers. The petition that legs NPR's multiple

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Speaker 1: requests for comment from both Lee and Tuey and the

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Speaker 1: Twey family's nonprofit organization Make It Happen were not immediately answered.

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Speaker 1: Michael o'her in his attorney, also did not immediately respond

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Speaker 1: to NPR's requests for comments, so.

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Speaker 2: He said he thought he was signing adoption papers. From

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Speaker 2: what he was signing was conservative ship, meaning that we

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Speaker 2: would control everything, your likeness, image, money, everything, We control that.

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Speaker 1: You know, what our producers say in the background is

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Speaker 1: that the Tui family legally perched them a big six seven,

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Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, a big nigga they want out have

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Speaker 1: bought them a big nigga money off. You know what.

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Speaker 1: That might become a thing in the South though, man,

501
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Speaker 1: because it's a lot of dudes to stay in fucked

502
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Speaker 1: up environments. That might be the new thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you look at that as a

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Speaker 2: as a I mean, like I said, I said, every time,

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Speaker 2: if a nigga can fuck you, he gonna fuck you

506
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Speaker 2: if you think he can get away with it. Right,

507
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Speaker 2: So do you can ship with the Britney Spears shit?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: What they thought? She was plumb loco? Right, she can't

510
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Speaker 2: handle her shit. So who the daddy or somebody was

511
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: running the conservative shit? Okay? Then, even though after all

512
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Speaker 2: this time, she like, why y'all still running my shit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And you know the part of this I can't

514
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Speaker 1: understand me and you both have her own biological children,

515
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Speaker 1: right right. My son is a fireman. My oldest son

516
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Speaker 1: is a fireman. He makes really good money. I don't

517
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Speaker 1: ever ask him for dim that's his money, right, Chris

518
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: doing this thing? I ain't never told Chris, hey man,

519
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Speaker 1: I did this for you when you was a kid.

520
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: I drove you to all these practices, took you to

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Speaker 1: all these trailer Let me get something, and you know

522
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Speaker 1: how much that costs. Damn. I spent the bag on Chris,

523
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Speaker 1: but I'll spend bags on all my children to ensure

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Speaker 1: their futures success. Is that they don't owe me nothing.

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00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't look back nothing from them. Now. You know, Chris,

526
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Speaker 1: if you're hearing this right enough, you want to go

527
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: on to bout Pops. You make that fiftye man Ross,

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Speaker 1: you want to go and give me the f one fifty.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna stop you where three fifty? You know

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Speaker 1: you can't bless? Yeah you get a double shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he don't owe me nothing, bro. I did that

532
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: because I wanted to see Mark's children be successful. And

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00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: at twenty five, they damn sure grown enough to handle

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Speaker 1: their own stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely, And and and sometimes you gotta Sometimes you're

536
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes, but that's how you learn from them.

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Speaker 2: Uh to me, I look at that like, you know,

538
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Speaker 2: somebody who just want to be in total control of

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Speaker 2: somebody's life. You know, your finance is what you do,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever, whatever. I think that's a bit extreme. Now,

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Speaker 2: somebody really has issues in their mental and you know

542
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: they're sitting on a hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Of course you can't.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you gotta look out for him, cause

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Speaker 2: somebody to look out for him. But at what point

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Speaker 2: do you go, Okay, let's try to let you work

547
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: your own shit.

548
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Well, I give you a prime example. Chris his first

549
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Speaker 1: year in the league. You know, he was expected to

550
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Speaker 1: be drafted, but he wasn't. He wound up going as

551
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Speaker 1: he initially went to Pittsburgh first week of the season,

552
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Speaker 1: they released him, but he went to Miami. He went

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Speaker 1: played for Dolphins the next day. He got picked up

554
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Speaker 1: next day, and he was on a practice squad with

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Speaker 1: them for a whole year. Then, you know, you went

556
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Speaker 1: through the whole thing of the quarterback getting hurt down there.

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Speaker 1: They had to make had guys coming off of I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I R so they had to make room

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Speaker 1: on the roster. Right. So I'll tell you this now.

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Speaker 1: When Chris first went down to Miami again, he's a kid,

561
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Speaker 1: but that's his money. I suggested to him, I said, dude,

562
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Speaker 1: why don't you just stay in a hotel for now,

563
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, until you fully, you know, see how the

564
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: situation plays out. Because in the NFL a number of

565
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Speaker 1: different things cappened. It's a business, exactly, and if a guy,

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Speaker 1: if a quarterback, gets hurt, that impacts your status, especially

567
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Speaker 1: the lower you are in down team. And for those

568
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: that don't know what the practice squad else, the practice

569
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Speaker 1: squad they do everything with the team, practice with them

570
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Speaker 1: and everything. They just don't get to play in the

571
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: games exactly. But they make a whole bunch of money

572
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Speaker 1: to practice. Pretty much, they make a whole bunch of

573
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Speaker 1: money to practice. They're professional football players. But anyone can

574
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Speaker 1: get plucked off that practice squad team at any time.

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm like, let's say that the Raiders looking

576
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: for a corner, they could call on the thing and saying, okay,

577
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Speaker 1: instead of bringing the older guy back when he played

578
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Speaker 1: no football in a few years, let's get this kid off,

579
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Speaker 1: you know, snatch this kid out of Miami. He got

580
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: fresh slaves. Let's bring him in. But if they bring

581
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: you in, they got to put you on the fifty

582
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Speaker 1: three man roster. But with the uncertainty of this business,

583
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Speaker 1: I told him, I said, hey, why don't you wait

584
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: before you do this. Now, I'm gonna go get this man.

585
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: He went and got him a Laide spread, had his

586
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: spread laid out, furniture and everything. I looked at it.

587
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Speaker 1: One day he faced Timmy. I said, damn, you live

588
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Speaker 1: in Largs. Guess what happens two weeks later, time ago,

589
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: your boy. Two it gets hurt. Two, it gets hurt.

590
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: They got a guy that's coming off of ir they

591
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: got another offensive line and it's hurt. So they have

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00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: to bring somebody in. So with that happening, they're gonna

593
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: have to bring some of those guys off the active

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00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: roster and put him on the practice roster. Exactly. They

595
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: go through there. Okay, some will have to let you go.

596
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: They only have so much room on a team. But

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Speaker 1: I said all this to say this, I could have

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Speaker 1: told my son and been more vocal about, man, you

599
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Speaker 1: better not go spend money on that crib, but don't

600
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Speaker 1: do this, don't buy that car, don't do this. But

601
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: that's his money. Yeah, he had to learn a lesson.

602
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta let your kids make little mistakes so

603
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Speaker 1: they'll see what you're talking about is real.

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Speaker 2: You have to, like, you know, it's nothing better than

605
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Speaker 2: learning from experience first you can know what not to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, I did a lot of dumb shit when

607
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Speaker 2: I was young, spending money on this and that. You know,

608
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: and you learn. You became very to where now when

609
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: you get money and checks. You know what I'm saying,

610
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: that shit goes into savings and shit. There's nothing that

611
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I haven't had wanted being or whatever you feel me,

612
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: I went through that stage. But sometimes it's better to

613
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: let a motherfucker experience so they learn, you know what

614
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I tell my son, I tell anybody you

615
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: give me you live, and you learn from from shit exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I went all you know, I went, took that

617
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: roundabout way just to give that example because it's his

618
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: money and I want him to learn because you know,

619
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: this year a whole different kid, whole different kid. All

620
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: his focuss is on being a contributor to the team,

621
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: nothing else. He not. You know, everybody has goals and aspirations,

622
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: but you have to wait until you achieve certain things.

623
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Speaker 1: It's like I tell my my family members at home, right.

624
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: I tell my family and this is more for life,

625
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: not my immediate household, but the cousins, you know, uncles,

626
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: the aunt teas and everybody. Because see people that really

627
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: think you're rich, I let them know. Look, I'm making

628
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: a living that can end at any time. Definitely. I

629
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: have multiple things that I do to make money. Though

630
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm a manager. We do this podcast, we got the

631
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: TV stuff that we're doing now. It's other things that

632
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I do to make money. Right, But I am not

633
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: rich by any stretch of the imagination. And you really,

634
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: you may think you're rich when you're younger because you

635
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: got this much money. It's the most money you've ever

636
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: had until you start getting around other motherfuckers who really rich,

637
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: and you realize, Man, I ain't got no money. I'm

638
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: not rich. You got to steal grind. I'm not rich, man,

639
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm like everyone else. I got a job, man, And

640
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: if I make the only thing I have is the

641
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: security of being allowed to make maybe one or two

642
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: small mistakes. But I make a major mistake, I could

643
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: be throughful.

644
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful with shit nowadays, man, I

645
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: try to be careful with I try to be careful

646
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: and watch what I do. Like I said, you go

647
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: through experiences and then you change shit up. People want

648
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: to think you different or you got soft, or you

649
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: don't turn and being somebody different. But man, that's just

650
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: growing up and maturing and learning from the experiences. So

651
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: h you try to instill that in people you fuck with,

652
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: your kids or whoever you feel.

653
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Me that's that's one hundred percent. You know what, man

654
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: speaking the mistakes. Man, they don't give your boy some

655
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: serious time. Man, Tory Lanez is getting a man ten

656
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: years Oh my gosh, ten years when really I was

657
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: seeing the whole time when they offered him that first deal,

658
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: when they offer due the first deal, I think he

659
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: should have took it. Me and Glass was talking about

660
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: He said, Man, I think Tory should have took that deal.

661
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: He would have been out by now.

662
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Man, I don't put myself in those situations like that.

663
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: And I still don't know what the fuck happened. I mean,

664
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: I did the nigga shooter, Like what the fuck? What

665
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I think? What I mean? Did he come down to that?

666
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: And why? Why? Shit at the end of the day, why, well,

667
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: you know what.

668
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: Man, this is what I don't wish jail upon No nigga,

669
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But hey, sometimes we make

670
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: motherfucking mistakes, and you know how that shit work when

671
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: it comes to the motherfucking pop pole, Nigga, you can't

672
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: slide out.

673
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Of shit, especially out in California with the gun. I

674
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: tell all the homies all the time, they got the

675
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: rough gun laws here. We got rough gun laws. I

676
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: tell the homies on fourth of July New Year's that

677
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: want to go in their backyard and pop their pistols.

678
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: I tell them all the time. Man, I said, Man,

679
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: you miss around to go to jail man fucking with

680
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: them guns like that. Man, California is not like Ohio

681
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: and Ohio. We get to walk around with our pistols. Texas.

682
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: You could walk around with your pistol Atlanta. You could

683
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: walk around with your pistol out here. If I went

684
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: outside right now and pop and somebody sees it and

685
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: calls the police and not get caught, I am going

686
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: to jail loawfully discharge the fhe home. Yeah, we got this.

687
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: We got some bad gun laws here. But you know

688
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: we got some of the roughest gang shit here too,

689
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: So you know, uh, you fall on the sword with

690
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: that one because you carry your pistol here and you

691
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: get caught.

692
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, I didn't. I done got caught with

693
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: pistols three times. You know what I'm saying. There's no

694
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: way around it. Thank gods, you weren't Poplar. You went

695
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: to jail every time. Goddamn right, every time. They're looking

696
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: looking for prison time too. They don't be playing and shit,

697
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 2: so they don't.

698
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna read the Tory Lanes case. So what

699
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: they gave him? Ten years? Yep? Here it is right here,

700
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: Canadian Repertory Lane. About it? Do about fucking you? Do

701
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: about maybe eight? I don't know. We go see right here.

702
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna check it out and see what they

703
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: got going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canadian Repertory Lanes was

704
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: sending us to ten years in prison after he was

705
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: found guilty of shooting hip hop superstar Megan the Stallion

706
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: and The Foot after the Pier left the Los Angeles

707
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: party in twenty twenty. The hearing began Morey and wrapped

708
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: up Tuesday, ending a high profile case in which Meghan

709
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: twenty eight, was subjected to what prosecutors called repeated and

710
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: grotesque acts. It cast the spotlight and the scrutiny black

711
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: women face when they report abuse. Lanes, whose real name

712
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: is Dave Star Peterson, shot Meghan, the three time Grammy

713
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: winner whose legal name is Megan Pete, after a party

714
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: at the Hollywood Hills home of reality star makeup Mogo

715
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: colleague Jenner. On July twelve, twenty twenty, a jury convicted

716
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Lane's thirty one, who pleaded not guilty of three felon

717
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: accounts in December, assault with a semi automatic firearm, carrying

718
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: a loaded, unregsed firearm and a vehicle, and discharging your

719
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: firearm with grosst negligence. Wearing an orange jumpsuit, Lanes addressed

720
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: the court before the judge handed down his sentence. He

721
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: apologized for his actions and said he took full responsibility

722
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty shooting. If I could change it,

723
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I would, but I can't. He said. Everything I did

724
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: that night, I take full responsibility. He added, I truly

725
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: am just trying to be a better person. Lanes looked

726
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: surprised to remain quiet after the sins was announced. The

727
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: mother of his son burst into tears that she was

728
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: led out of the court room. Matthew Barhom, a member

729
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: of Lane's legal team said appeals for both the sentence

730
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and the convention are playing. The team will lost a

731
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: file for bail win of the appeals, the sentence and

732
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: handing down his sentence. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge David

733
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: herefore It said it was difficult to reconcile the doting

734
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: father and committeed for philanthropists. Many described with the person

735
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: who fired the gun five times at Megan, sometimes good

736
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: people do bad things. Harry First said, actions have consequences

737
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: and there are no winners in this case. Deputy District

738
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Attorney Alex Boss said Lanez called Meghan the liar, intimidated

739
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: her in the raster. Not only did the defendant due

740
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: the heinus actor shooting her, he then subjected her two

741
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: and a half years of hell. Bot said after the sentence,

742
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: and they're going to deport him back to Canada. All

743
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: that show money he was getting in the US. When

744
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: he come out, that's over with. Yeah, he won't be

745
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: able to come back here no more. He won't be

746
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: able to come back here no more.

747
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be That's just like members Shine, That's gonna

748
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: be just the same situation.

749
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't know.

750
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Ain't no, ain't no, ain't no broad gonna piss me

751
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: off that bad to where I gotta pop at her whatever.

752
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you gotta take you, sometimes you gotta take.

753
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: To you know.

754
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: And like I said, I can't. I come from the

755
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: street life and all that shit changed.

756
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Person.

757
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: I know situations, you know, uh, domestic violence and all

758
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: that shit. Never advocated it.

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: You know, Uh.

760
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: But I don't know what kind of female, what what

761
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: would make you that mad to bust on a female

762
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: like I don't know what to make you mad to

763
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: buzz and female. But I wondered what made milli male

764
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: mad enough to go with eminem Oh my god, I

765
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: want to before you say that, let me say this

766
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: while we speaking on you know, pioneer rappers or whatever.

767
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: There's a pioneer.

768
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: Okay, we've all been asked this question, and we've all

769
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: been whatever. When is it time to put down the microphone?

770
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: You know?

771
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: What do you feel hip hop has an age limit?

772
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think it has age limit. I think

773
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: why are we so ridiculed.

774
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: For rappers like Melly Meo and older rappers who are

775
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: still trying to Why are we so ridiculed by the

776
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: youngsters because people still want to hear music, and you

777
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: know what, but they don't want to hear us. Why, well,

778
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: that's them evidently. I know you make a lot of

779
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: money or doing tourist, so it's somebody that want to

780
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: hear you. But according to them, I don't. According to them,

781
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: we don't. According to them, y'all old rappers, y'all broke,

782
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: and that's why y'all still trying to rap. You know,

783
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: That's what kills me, man, when you're talking to these

784
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: young folks man, because they say you and broke, You

785
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: need to sit down something. I could turn on my

786
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: radio or TV and I could see Rolling Stone still performing.

787
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: I could see Earth Winding Fire still performing. I could

788
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: see all these concerts with Lisa Lisa and Coke Jam

789
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: and all these Nobody tells them a why the fuck

790
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: y'all still singing? Go sit down and let it be

791
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: Dojah Cat and all the new people. Why is it

792
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: always hip hop? Why? Well, you know what, hold on,

793
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm talking about about fucking he who can still get out?

794
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: But I wonder you know it's a kid out here.

795
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: My nigga said, well, you listen to that ship you

796
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: gonna hold on. This is what I'm gonna say.

797
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: You know me, And before you say something, I feel

798
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: that's kind of out of place.

799
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: You get me, Like you have to know when to

800
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: fight your battles. You get me.

801
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: You have to know when to pick your battles and

802
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: when to fight your battles.

803
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: You get me.

804
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna try to even though

805
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: you know I got a little swing power and you know,

806
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: protect myself. I'm not finna get in the ring with

807
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson on an expedition or whatever. You feel me,

808
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: that's just something I'm not gonna do. Someone already claim

809
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: you win.

810
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have an exhibition Max, I'm like, hell, no,

811
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: for what I wouldn't either, No and no. I get

812
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: where you're coming from.

813
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm not finn to have an exhibition battle with eminem

814
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: you feel me. I don't give a fuck about how

815
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: much I disagree with whatever the situation is. I'm not

816
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna go fuck that. I'm Finnah go on the studio.

817
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm finna do me a record. It's just it's ludicrous

818
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: to me. You get me, and I respect Mellie Mail.

819
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: I love the message and Grand Master Flash and all

820
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: that shit. But like I said, I'm not gonna get

821
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: in the motherfucking boxing match with Mike Tyson on a

822
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: fucking expedition because I feel like fuck that you get

823
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: me or even even one of the even one of

824
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: the famous white boxers, you get me, I ain't gonna

825
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: even get in that message boxer.

826
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even get in the ring with Rocky.

827
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: You get me on Sylvester stallone type of shit, I

828
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: know I can't. That's just something you don't deal with.

829
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: So guys know how to pick your battles and shit.

830
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate for motherfuckers like you know in that

831
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: situation when it's it's niggas like me who still respect

832
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: the craft of hip hop. I donna do hip hop

833
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: or make records to go make you know money, Like

834
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: you said, I do it. I make money right here,

835
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: I go on tour. Still I do do shit. I

836
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: don't look at like, oh man, I gotta put this

837
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: fucking record out because I gotta make some money. I

838
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: make records because you still enjoy making it said in

839
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: the heart end. It's in the heart, and I still

840
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: have fans who appreciate me making the music I do.

841
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: And this is why I say that I don't think

842
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: it should be your age. Lem Me put on rep Now,

843
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: if you a dude that's fifty years old, decide that

844
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: you just gonna come now and just jump in the trade,

845
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I would tell that person, man, look, unless you are

846
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: very very very good exactly, those situ aas down somewhere

847
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: and I.

848
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Get that, but like and then they picking shoes, who

849
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: you know?

850
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: That's all? Well, the thing is, evidently you got what

851
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: you would call what I like to call the fifty

852
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: year old b boy. Now we in the era right now,

853
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: hip hop is fifty years old, right. I grew up

854
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: listening to hip hop. I remember whenning what no hip

855
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: hop on the planet exactly, I can remember clear it

856
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: wasn't no hip hop. Instantly when I heard it, I said,

857
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: I have to be a part of that. I didn't

858
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: know in which aspect, you know, but my mom bought

859
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: me turntables. I actually can DJ, actually DJ pretty good,

860
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: but that's not my thing, you feel what I mean?

861
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: I actually got really good at some writing aspect, writing

862
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: hooks and everything like that, and I got credits out

863
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: there now for that. But this is my thing. Right.

864
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: I think that, just like anything else, being an mc

865
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: all comes from here, right. I could be one hundred

866
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: years old and had the coldest bar as ever. But

867
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: I think with that being said, when you swinging a sword, right,

868
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: if you got a sword and you going to battle,

869
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: soldiers don't wait until the day of the battle to

870
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: go sharp and they blade up. They keep that motherfucker

871
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: sharp every day. You would see them at home, you know,

872
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: rubbing the shit. They gonna make sure that motherfucker stays sharp.

873
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: So if a motherfucker impede on, they turf, or they

874
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: get called by the king to go to war, guess

875
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. That blade is nice and sharp. I

876
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: think you need to keep your blade sharp. And with

877
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: that being said, and I'm gonna give you this player first,

878
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I thoroughly have the utmost respect for Melly Mail. Melly

879
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Mail probably has the coldest rap verse of all time.

880
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: But y'all is born with no state of mind, blind

881
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: to the ways of mankind. God is smiling on you,

882
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: but he's frowning too, because the only God knows what

883
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: you go through. That was kind of some of the

884
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: first gangster ship. Really, you know what I'm saying, but

885
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: to go from that to this right here, we only

886
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: go play a little bit of it because you know,

887
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: we don't want to get to you look mad like

888
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: a roach crawled out of your book bag. I say

889
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: this man and a lot of people won't give Eminem

890
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: the credit that he's supposed to get.

891
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Why get this off real quick, guy? Is he even

892
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: hating on Eminem?

893
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna go to

894
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: that right there. Eminem happens to be white, but listening

895
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: to that man rap, you can tell he is very, very,

896
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: very like you said, he is serious about his craft.

897
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: And at this point, Eminem probably sitting on a half

898
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a billion dollars if not born.

899
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: Is it racially motivated? What is that angle behind? I

900
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: think so it has to be racially motivated? Or is

901
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: Meley feeling like because m is white, he shouldn't be

902
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be appreciated.

903
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: As as what hip hop is black? Well, what Melli

904
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Mal's thing is is that Eminem is a guest in

905
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: the house of hip hop. And I believe if I'm

906
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: not mistaken, because I don't want to be one of

907
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: those people that put stuff out this fact. Y'all can

908
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: do your own researching this, But I believe that Eminem

909
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: has said on a couple of different occasions that he

910
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: is a guest in hip hop. He understands that this

911
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: is a black art form. But if if you listen

912
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: to this, if you listen to this guy, man, you

913
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: can tell that he is very, very serious about his music.

914
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: A lot of thought writing the raps and understanding how

915
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: Eminem rep you being a rapper, and you listen to

916
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: his caveenances and his flow. He puts a lot of

917
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: time and effort into that shit. Dog, and he's really

918
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: meticulous about the way he says stuff.

919
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Everything about Ryan that's saying that that he's a guest

920
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: in hip.

921
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Hop, Hold on, Brown, if you gonna do it, come

922
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: talking to Mic so the people can hear you. Come

923
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: talking to Mic real quick. Dog, Hey, this is this

924
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: is our producer. Let me introduce him. It's his first

925
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: time ever, it's his first time ever on camera.

926
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: Now, this is what I want to say. He's saying like,

927
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: m's a guest of hip hop, right because what black?

928
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: Because hip hop is what it is. It's a black

929
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: art form. It's a black art throw for sure. It's

930
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: a black art form.

931
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: What is basketball? Basketball? When it was made? What was it?

932
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: When basketball was made? It was initially all white folks

933
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: playing it? What was football initially all white folks? Are

934
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: we guessed of those exactly? My point is that, yeah,

935
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: I share your opinion us.

936
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: While we guessed the football baseball. Because remember, we as

937
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: black people can do that shit. We weren't allowed until

938
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: we had to form our own crew. Right, So can

939
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Eminem say I formed my own house. And I'm gonna

940
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: tell you what he said, I formed my own house.

941
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: I understand that it's a black culture, but saying I'm

942
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: a guest, I built my own house.

943
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: He built his own house, and he's very you know

944
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: anybody whenever right here, people come up with these criticism

945
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: about Eminem. I tell him, I say, listen, you not

946
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: listening to him. You're talking about your feelings. You're being

947
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: very subjective and in your feelings right now, because the

948
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: man got bars.

949
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: Have I did I have? I liked every Eminem song. No,

950
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: there were songs that you know, the stand ship and

951
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: ship like that.

952
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: H I love, I get it, but it came. But

953
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: that wasn't for you, right, that wasn't for you that's fair.

954
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: And it's another thing.

955
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: His first ship, I'm slim shady. I used to bang

956
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: that ship all through the neighborhood. It was a it

957
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: was a it was a nice He's a bad motherfucker

958
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: dog here talking to mic Man.

959
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Think about the interview. Was at TV interview and Glad

960
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: asked him in the interview, because you beat Eminem in

961
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: the battle, he said, it'll be the easiest thing I

962
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: ever did. Said that's where so he said that that

963
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: melle Mel said that Eminem doesn't have the technical skills

964
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: to beat him in the battle. Eminem and I'm probably

965
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna get in some trouble for this because this is

966
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: just my opinion, right, and everybody is subject to their

967
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: own opinion, right, And I try to be as objective

968
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: as I can about stuff. I don't put no feelings

969
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: at mostion in it. But Eminem is easily I don't

970
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: think rap could ever have a definitive number one, you know,

971
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: number one person, because that's just somebody's opinion, right. But

972
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Eminem is without a doubt, unequivocally one of the top

973
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: ten rappers in the world. Like I said, easy, and

974
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: I would even venture to say probably top five he's

975
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: a bad motherfucker. Dog, He's a bad He's a bad

976
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker Again.

977
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: Have I listened to some eminem shit you, god damn right?

978
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: Have I banged some Mellie Nail you, god damn right?

979
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Two different comparisons, you get me, two different times. You

980
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: get me exactly, Mellie mailing him was the seventies era.

981
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: You get me, the early eighties era of breaking in

982
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: their hip hop. You're talking about somebody who you know,

983
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: battle skilled wise is just you know, like I said,

984
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: you don't touch it like your mama say, niggative fire

985
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: is on on the stove, you don't put your fucking

986
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: hand on the fire, right exactly. And some niggas you

987
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 2: just can't fuck with. Oh well he has the polacy

988
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: okay then, Melli Yeah, I mean because it because it

989
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: sounded like an emotional thing, because you know, niggas want

990
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: to be recognized as the originators. You get me, Mellie

991
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: Mail is wanting to come from one of those eras,

992
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: so to to to question him about his like, you know,

993
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: because he like nigga.

994
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm Melli Mail, I come.

995
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: From you know, and everybody respect and so for a

996
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: motherfucker to ask him, could you beat eminem in a battle?

997
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: What he's supposed to say? Hell no, he got confident

998
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: in himself. But everybody know what the real results.

999
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: It is a way to answer that to say, man,

1000
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I love him and them. I wouldn't

1001
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: battle them in them, you know, like, that's not what

1002
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I do, That's not what i'm you know.

1003
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: That's what I wouldn't even know why somebody would even

1004
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: push that button to you get me. Oh well, there

1005
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: you have it, there you have it. Say no more,

1006
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: you know what doing. I never get mad at last.

1007
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: People get mad at lading them right. But my thing

1008
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: is this them motherfuckers go up to answer all the question.

1009
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: Flag is doing this job if he can get a

1010
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: motherfucker to say some crazy I've done the show, I felt,

1011
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: you know, some questions where they try to wiggle and whatever.

1012
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: You just gotta be intelligent before you speak. That's one

1013
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: thing to ask everything. Motherfucker asked me a question. You'll

1014
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: see me sit there for fucking five minutes and go mm.

1015
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, And I'm not gonna read males whole. I'm

1016
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: pretty sure everybody that you're going on, we're gonna put

1017
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: it in the description y'all go and see million mails. Pology.

1018
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: It's a pology, but this is what I wanted to say. Man, right,

1019
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: we really need to as a people start stop being

1020
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: so damn emotional about stuff and be emotional now when

1021
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you talk start talking about systemic racism,

1022
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: police brutality, and stuff of that nature. We are supposed

1023
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: to be emotional, We're supposed to feel some kind of

1024
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: way about that. But this man has evidently made it

1025
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: his life's work. I remember I saw Eminem at the

1026
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: rap Olympics before he was even Eminem w wels and

1027
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: I love Medusa, dog loved Medusa to death. But he

1028
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: tore Medusa's head off that day and fifteen other people

1029
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't He didn't even win the rap Olympics.

1030
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: My boy Juice from Chicago beat him, fair square. Juice

1031
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: the bad motherfucker too, he beat Eminem. Eminem was depending

1032
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: on that win that battle for rent money to pay

1033
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: his rent at the crib. Like he won, and it

1034
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: was one of them things to wear because I was

1035
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: there for it. It was kind of like right there,

1036
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And Juice won. Eminem has

1037
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: to me, he's had a harder time of making it

1038
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: to me, you know, to get jumping the game his

1039
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: entry point because people probably always looked at him as

1040
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: the white boy.

1041
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, but we've always done that when a white

1042
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: boy has tried to jump into hip hop. I think,

1043
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 2: you know, the only you know people we gave credits

1044
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: shout out to Homie Cypress Hill, you know, that was

1045
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: probably you know, and they they they were you know, Spanish,

1046
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 2: they weren't even white. Look what happened with the results

1047
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: of it, and they crossed over as well, you know

1048
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: the results of of when Caucasians entered a hip hop game.

1049
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: You know, we had the Vanilla Ice era, we had

1050
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: the what the Marky Marking, the funky bunch bunch you know.

1051
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: Which'ell look at Mark Wahlberg more as an entertainer.

1052
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the type of music they did've had

1053
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: a few of them tried to come in and stake

1054
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: to position. And if you could see right now, a

1055
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: lot of them or or you know, running the positions

1056
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: that that hip hop has been well, you.

1057
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: Know, and it's a lot of white rappers, man. And

1058
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: that's the big misconception too. They think, oh, he just

1059
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: made it because he's white. I knew a whole bunch

1060
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: of white rappers. We ain't nowhere close to getting no

1061
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: record deal definitely. You know what I'm saying. They got skills,

1062
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: they do they shit, but they're not in the upper

1063
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: exit line of hip hop, you know. And this is

1064
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: what I really feel, man, we need to really start

1065
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: judging this shit on dog on motherfucker's bars and that

1066
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker rap. That's all I care about. When I listen

1067
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: to a new song, I don't care if motherfucker's white, black, green,

1068
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: and purple, does he have bars? Just the beat banging,

1069
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I don't care, because I don't

1070
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: feel it's my place to ever tell somebody you're not

1071
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: welcome into the house of hip hop because just like

1072
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: you neede the analogy to basketball, football and all that stuff.

1073
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Hell football, I think it's what maybe ninety six percent

1074
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: black now, yeah, ninety six percent NBA, same thing. Yeah,

1075
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: and white's and been at that sport. What they said,

1076
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: this is ours, y'all can't come in. Y'all got again

1077
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: for a long time, and they did for a long time.

1078
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how that changed them. My son's

1079
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm a mutter you will see Trojans. They went down.

1080
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: They had remember that game they had to go down

1081
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: And I watched the whole documentary story where they went

1082
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: to go play al Alabama.

1083
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: They wanted to go play Alabama. That's one of the

1084
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: things they tell you about when you go on your

1085
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: recruiting trip. They got this one wall at the university

1086
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: right to show all the black players that was there

1087
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: and see was like, come on in the whole time.

1088
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: They coach was like, we playing on the sport. Everybody's

1089
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: welcome to play exactly. And they went down to Alabama

1090
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: and beat the dogs shit out they ass. You know

1091
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: what Bear Bryan said the next year, we have to

1092
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: start letting some of these nigga roles in the university

1093
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: or we're gonna get our ass whopped every year.

1094
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: So you know, I just you know, I know this

1095
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: is this craft was you know, made up by us

1096
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: as a people.

1097
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: A lot of shit.

1098
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: It was made up as us five people. But you know,

1099
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: sometimes they squeeze in and they take control over, and

1100
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: you know you can't do nothing about it, and what

1101
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: can you do it for?

1102
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: All fucker good?

1103
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you we had some we had

1104
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: some white basketball players playing like niggas. We got you though,

1105
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: Larry Bird was a goat. Come on, motherfucker. Yeah, that's how.

1106
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: That's how stuff happened, though I don't know, but you

1107
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: know what, man, I think some of them little stories

1108
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: like him throwing a demo.

1109
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Top was at that thing too. I was there because

1110
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: I was there. I was there actually to wash my

1111
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: deuce and the homie Juice because shut off Juice.

1112
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: My boy was a judge there. He was a judge,

1113
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: I think. So you could tell at that time that

1114
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: that little motherfucker was wrong.

1115
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: No, he was.

1116
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: He Like I said, I never got into the battleshit,

1117
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: but he was a motherfucker who could battle motherfuckers. That's

1118
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: how he got in your shit, like you said, just

1119
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: by chance fucking tape and fell into the right hands.

1120
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: I asked my homeboy, Juice all the time, right, if

1121
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: you had to do it all over again, would you

1122
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: had rather have lost that ball and whim? He said,

1123
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: what the fuck you think, nigga? You know what I'm saying,

1124
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: because Juice didn't get nowhere close to the commercial acclaim

1125
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: that he thought he was. But he was a bad one.

1126
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: The fucking shut out shoes you know what, going back

1127
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: to Melle Mail, I want to say this to mail Man,

1128
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: you are no disrespect. You are on the mount efforts

1129
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: of rap dog as one of the goats, as one

1130
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: of the goats. But my guy, you don't see Damn

1131
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Marino coming out here starting shit with what's my man for?

1132
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes And like I said, who all knows what

1133
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: it is? I mean, you know, sometimes a lot of

1134
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: these shits be publicity stunts, you feel me?

1135
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: I hope not, because, to be honest with you, the

1136
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: song Mail put out for what he does. If he'd

1137
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: just put the song out, you know, commemorating fifty years

1138
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: of hip hop, it would have been received way differently. Yeah,

1139
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: probably it would have been received because if you listen

1140
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: to it, it's dated, but it's not bad. It sounded

1141
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: like something that would have came out during that time.

1142
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I ain't gonna give horrible but

1143
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't hear worst shit on there. But yeah, I

1144
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: don't heard word. We got some real horrible s wor ship.

1145
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: You know that that's I won't say that's Male's best work,

1146
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: but that's MC male. Mail.

1147
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: Don't we're gonna give him. We're gonna give him an

1148
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: a for effort. Yeah you know what, he didn't have

1149
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: no damn business for effort. He's lucky because Eminem is

1150
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: really one of them type of dudes to take any

1151
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: challenge on. I think m's uh one of those dudes

1152
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: that's like be like yeah, right, okay, whatever until motherfuckers

1153
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: get the egg at him on like come on, man,

1154
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: you got to serve this motherfucker and then he just

1155
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: be like fuck it. But for the most part I

1156
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: would look at it like, man, it's Melly Mail, Okay, cool, whatever,

1157
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 2: whatever you say, you feel me.

1158
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And as y'all see, we not in

1159
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: a normal spot tonight.

1160
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: That we're getting ship cracking, so you know you just

1161
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: back up in action next.

1162
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Next week, week, way bigger, way better and uh this

1163
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: big things coming. We got big announcements coming up and

1164
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: everything else where are we at time? While it be yeah, yeah, man,

1165
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna go. Let y'all go, But I

1166
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: want to leave y'all with this before we go. When

1167
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: you see somebody online seeing derogatory things about people and

1168
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: city everything is about people before you jumping them comments

1169
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 1: talking about yeah you one hundred percent right, because first

1170
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: of all, none of y'all know what the fuck are

1171
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: y'all talking about half the time, y'all, and somebody's in boxing,

1172
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: and somebody's leaving the comment on somebody's page instead of

1173
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: and your whole life is in shambles. But take the

1174
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: time out the research stuff for yourself. Let's all start

1175
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: being a little bit more objective. Yeah, and stop going

1176
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: for the bullshit. We in dangerous times now. We gotta

1177
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: stop supporting the bullshit. It's a lot of dope content

1178
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I'm saying. Stop cheating yourself

1179
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: because looking at that bullshit is like listen so much

1180
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: masturbating your ear.

1181
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, to each his own. Like I said, when you

1182
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: got a choice, you got a choice to do whatever.

1183
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: But a lot of this shit be just ridiculous. A

1184
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: lot of this shit is just just straight up just

1185
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: just hate the next motherfucker. And I'm just I'm just

1186
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting fed up with the with with us as

1187
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: black men always gotten to hate motherfuckers. Man, If you

1188
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: got an issue, man, just just keep it to yourself

1189
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: and move along, because we're gonna keep doing what we're doing.

1190
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: You feel me, It's nothing's gonna stop so we would

1191
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: rather you know what I'm saying, We would rather focus

1192
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: on shit that's positive, making money and uplifting motherfuckers instead

1193
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: of trying to slap niggas in the mouth man. That's

1194
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: what it is. We're trying to be on a different page.

1195
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: So let's grow up.

1196
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And on that note, we out of here.