1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Ronan our hot rods a reminder of gentler times gone by? 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: And what is that attraction? What makes us so attracted 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: to it? The Car Doctor adding an auxiliary cooler of 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: that is, I can't say it's a bad idea. I 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: really think it will help them. I don't know it 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: for a fact, but you know, I know that heat 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: is the is the number one message we get as 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: far as why those trans is failed. Welcome to the 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open, but I am 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: he running. In case you're wondering, this is that radio 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: show that kind of points out the obvious and says, 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: isn't that stupid? Two thousand and eleven, Ford Flex came 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: in this week for a problem losing coolant. And I'm 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna be real quick, Tom, and then we'll get to 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: the cold because I know there's a lot of calls. 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I just gotta tell this story real fast. Because I 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: know you guys like hearing these things. And two thousand 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: and eleven Flex with just over ninety thousand miles on it, 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: and it was leaking coolant. Three is a three five 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: motor and the coolant is coming out the side of 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: the time and cover behind the alternator. And I tell 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: you this story because a lot of you may have 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: this engine may have this particular problem and it needs 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: a water pump. To do the water pump on this 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: particular engine, you have to disassemble the front of the 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: engine because it's timing chain driven. I gotta tell you 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: this isn't one of Ford's better ideas, all right, And 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: and Ford's not the only one that does this. Nissan 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: does it, Ford does it, GM does some of them. Uh. 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Chrysler started this, I think back in the in the nineties. 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: But as I said to the vehicle owner, unfortunately it 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: took what used to be a three repair and made it, 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, on average, a two thousand dollar repair. And 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: the customer said, well, maybe I'm not going to fix it. 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: It is nine years old now, And I went, well, 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I understand that, and that's your choice, but you know, 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: what are you gonna buy for two grand? And they said, 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll have to go looking and look 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: at what the car companies have done. And they're all 45 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: doing this, so you can't say, well, I'll never buy 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: a Ford. You know what, whatever you buy is going 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: to have a you know, gonna have a problem, right, 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just it's just ludicrous. They've got you, 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: all right, and I think they know it. I sort 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: of think, you know, the new slogan for a car 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: company would be, hey, we build the best car we 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: can and after that, got you that's gonna be their 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: marketing campaign. Got you, um, because you know, it's really 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of neat. If you want to read something interesting, 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: go on YouTube and just type in two thousand eleven 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Ford Flex water pump replacement and watch the video as 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: that come up, and look at the detail you have 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: to go through to change the water pump on this thing. 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. In some cases, some models, they're dropping 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: the engines out of the car. Some of them are 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: doing it in the car. But you know, it's not 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: for the faint of heart, and it's a lot of 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: exposure for the repair shop. And then again there are 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: people that are just saying the heck with it, I'll 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: get a new car now. Ford's answer is that, you know, 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: typical edge of the water pump is a hundred sixty 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: two hundred eighty thousand miles before they fail, if only. 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of these things going bad right 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: around the eighty thousand mile mark, So just buy or beware. 70 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: It is one of the weak links, for it has 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: going on, but at least it's not transmissions like it 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: wasn't the toruses and the sables. And that's a whole 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: another story. Hello, welcome ron any in the car. Doctor. 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: I had to tell you that one right out of 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the gate, five five zero zero, and that's the phone number. 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: If you want to give us a call that that 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: phone number is seven. I'll do it again slow, um 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: from my relatives. Eight five five five zero zero. You 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: can call that number, leave a message, day or night. 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: That's seven phone number. Tom Ray, executive producer. We'll call 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: you back and get you up here on there, Mr Ray, 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: How are you today? I didn't say hello to you 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: in the first hour of my apologies, so we were Yeah, 84 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: we were jamming along there, huh like um, what I 85 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: tell you. We had a lot of calls last hour, 86 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of calls I had. I gotta learn how 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: to use the whole button in the drop button better. 88 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's bad. You didn't have the answers. But anyway, 89 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: well I keep guessing, though, Tom, I got everybody else fooled. Um, 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, And then I know you've got a point, right. 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: I take the axle out of your daughter's car to 92 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: change the alternator. Yeah, yeah, they had to pull the 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: front uh the right front axle out to change the alternator. 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Or my fifteen escape where you have to pull half 95 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the car apart to get the battery out. Yeah, it's 96 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: just And everybody says, well, you know they didn't make 97 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: them like that when I was a kid, And I'm like, yeah, 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: but what difference does it make? You know they're not 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna change things. I think the worst thing anybody can 100 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: say to me is, well, you know, the car is 101 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: older now, so I don't really want to fix it. 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I just want to drive it as is. Hey, do 103 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: whatever you want. I want to be eighteen again. It's 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: not happening in this lifetime. Uh you know, it's just 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: it's it's you gotta face reality. And one thing about cars. 106 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Cars are physics man, they will You will have to 107 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: deal with the reality of the broken car either at home, 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: at your mechanics or on the side of the road. 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Take your pick where you want to deal with it. 110 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: And that's just the way it works. So, um, let's 111 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open and let's go over and 112 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: talk to where we going first, Tom Stanley in Florida. 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Stanley Stanley. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: How can I help? Good afternoon. I have a Ford 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: Mustang on computer, thank god, Um, really quick, um, and 116 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: I have two shot manuals for factory Ford ones. One 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: the sixties seven says the coal should only have six 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: bolts going to it. My problem was with the car 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: is with the car. I still have it. It was 120 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: getting over twelve and a half bolts from the wire 121 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: to the coal side of positive side of coal. What 122 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: are you trying to check for? What's the problem with 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: the vehicle? The points are burning up too quick, and 124 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: they're not cheap points. They are good. I don't want 125 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: to mention the Brandy Points brand name. So, but even 126 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: in sixty seven or sixty eight, there should be a 127 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: resistor wire in this okay, So So the idea here 128 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: is you're familiar with um when they talk about ballast 129 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: resistors and ignition systems. Right, I do work for a living. 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: That's for me. I know everything, but ar okay. So 131 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: they wanted to limit they wanted to limit voltage and 132 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: current to the coils, or they want to limit voltage 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: to the coils to cut down on arc across the 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: points so that they didn't burn up. So they reduced them. 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: During run, a ballast resistor vehicle will have anywhere from 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: six to eight vaults at the positive side of the coil. 137 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: But during cranking they allowed the full twelve volts because 138 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: they're thinking, we're gonna start a hot wet mixture or 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: a hot cold or a cold hot mixture or a 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: cold rich mixture. God, I'll get it right sooner or later. 141 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: And um, you know, they want to give it as 142 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: full of voltage as they can to create the best spark. 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: Now you're telling me in run vehicles running, you've got 144 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: twelve volts to the coil, right, Okay, Then your resistor 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: wire something's not wired correctly. Well, what I did not 146 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: trying to cut you'all. Um. The primary wire that's underneath 147 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the Nisian switch. There's two wires running to it. One's 148 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: a purple wire or paint not purple, pink wire. That's resistor. 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Do not cut? Do you not splice? I went to 150 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: one of the parched places and o'calla handles a lot 151 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: of aftermarket original parts for fours and chivvies and everything. 152 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: I bought a primary wire which was like three ft long. 153 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: I put the whole three foot in it, put buck 154 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: connectors in it, connectors in it, and you know, and 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: it's down when you crank it up. Now it's like 156 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: eleven sixty. Well, wait a minute, if you go to that, 157 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: if you go to the and it is it's a 158 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: pink wire with cloth wrapped around it was a pink 159 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: wire with cloth fabric wrapped around it from the factory, 160 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: the resistor wire. All right, did you measure the resistance 161 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: of that wire? No, be honest with you, it's a 162 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: resistant No. I did not cut it. I just cut it. 163 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: And because it ran into the wire and harness you're 164 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: probably familiar with if it was only really really probably 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: under foot or so long, right, it's not. It's it's 166 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: not a very long wire. But I don't understand you 167 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: cut your wire into the harness where from the back 168 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: of the nation switch to fit for it fees and 169 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: just put a three ft long one in it, but 170 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: a longer primary wire in it. Okay. Is it a 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: resistor wire? Yes, that's supposically, that's what it's made to do, 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, not kinda be smart Yeah, no, no, no, 173 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: But I'm well, you're saying, you're saying primary wire, is it? 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: So if you resistor wire, right, it's a resistor wire. Right, 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: you're saying primary wire. Did you measure the resistance of 176 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: the rest? Right? If you did, you measure the resistance 177 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: of that resistor wire, be honest with you. Okay, So, 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: because if it puts in, if it doesn't meet Ford Speck, 179 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: then you know we're guessing. Well, I basically that's what 180 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I did. Set um the volte meter says it's at 181 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: eleven when it's running too high average, it's it's they wanted. 182 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: They wanted six to eight vaults. If you're burning up 183 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: the points, you've got too higher resistance going to uh 184 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: going to the coil? Now, is it the correct coil? 185 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: Because it was also or Um there was also a 186 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: specific coil for that vehicle. Not all twelve vault round 187 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: coils were the same back. Well, this one but it's 188 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: got in it now is an aftermarket twelve volte coal. Okay, 189 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: but is it equipped to work with a ballast resistor 190 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: or a resistor style ignition? Yes, what it says on 191 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: the coal said used balast or resistor wires. So what 192 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: if we did this, What if we found out the 193 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: spec for what the resistor wire was or whatever it's 194 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna take, and we can just apply Holmes Law wire 195 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: in a ballast resistor. Take your twelve vault wire. You're 196 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: saying you've got twelve vaults on this wire, Just make 197 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: a little circuit, put twelve volts on that wire, put 198 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: it to the primary resistant amount the ballast resist temporarily, 199 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: and you should get reduced voltage out the other side. Right, 200 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: reduce your voltage down to eight volts connected to the coil, 201 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: and see if it solves the problem. If that solves 202 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the problem, then you know you've got some sort of 203 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: a harness issue going on. Right, But Wyren harness the 204 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: DASH one for a sixty eight reproduction one is really expensive. Well, 205 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: if you buy use when you're buying an old one 206 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: that's saint probably the same problem. So what would you 207 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: like to do. I'm just asking you what you recommend doing. 208 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Either the easiest way to fix that Saint Hi distributory 209 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: that takes twelve volts and be done with this thing, 210 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Well you could do that, but then you lose the 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: originality of the car. I know, if you want, well, Stanley, 212 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: if you want, If you I'm not arguing with your brother, 213 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: just just think about what you're saying. If you want 214 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: the originality, you got to dope it out. There's no shortcuts, 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: all right, I know it's it's we you know, let's 216 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: put a let's put a ballast resister in there and 217 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: reduce the voltage. Does that make the problem go away? 218 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: If it doesn't? Now listen for the record. My hot 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: rod electronic ignition and if I if I could find 220 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: something else to run besides the MSD, I would because 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest piece of junk out there, 222 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: four thousand miles. And I already have to have the 223 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: electronics replaced because it thinks it's going into fail safe 224 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: and it starts to break up around all right, I've 225 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: got a whole another distributor for five bucks. I have 226 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: to swap in and out and send the other one 227 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: out for rebuild. I haven't found a reliable set of points. 228 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: The Monte Carlo. When I drive it will have points 229 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: in it, its factory points. The reason to deal with 230 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a headache. Um. So I'm not 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: a fan of either. I'm a fan of what works. 232 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I think if this is is this an all original 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: car the Mustang, It's well it was, yes, the engine transmission. Seriously, 234 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: is the then numbers matched? You know, rebuilt? I hate 235 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: to see uh my opinion. You wanted my opinion, right, 236 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I hate to see you. I hate to see you 237 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: cut it up and put something else in there without 238 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: doing something well you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm 239 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: just I know about You can put an H e 240 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I system in it, the g M type. It works good, 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: They're simple, nothing goes If it goes wrong, you can 242 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: buy the parts that at your local parts store. Okay, 243 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: then do that. That's my theory. Not trying to be 244 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: smart with you know, I'm not saying your are, but 245 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, how are you gonna get a GM distributor 246 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: fit of Ford. They they're making they're making conversions. Oh yeah, 247 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: you cannot try to. If you look at the some 248 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: of the websites like to go I am. Some people 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: hate eBay, some people don't. But on eBay there's probably 250 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: about four hundred of them for sale, well anywhere from 251 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: forty bucks to five bucks. You really don't know, Stanley. 252 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: I'll leave it here, okay. If you ever come visit 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: me in the shop, take a look in the trailer 254 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: next to the building, because it's loaded with parts from 255 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: all the companies that said this would work and that 256 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: would work. And they're all the spars and all the 257 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: duplic gets and all the copies and all the junk 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: that just doesn't work and doesn't do what it's supposed 259 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: to do. If it was me, I try and make 260 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: the primary resist work first, try and get the vaultage 261 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: down to eight vaults to the points last, and if so, 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: figure out what's wrong with the wiring harness. It doesn't 263 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: matter what it's cost. It's a classic and we're trying 264 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: to do it right. Just my two cents eight five 265 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero running any of the car doctor 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: coming back right after this, whether it's a little red 267 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: Corvette or you go, you've come to the right place 268 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: to get that car fixed Ron and in the Car 269 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Doctor eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back 270 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: to Ron. Let's get over to Kenton, Maine. No. Eight 271 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Cheap Wrangler, Kent. Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can 272 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I help Hi. I'm doing the rear breaks on an 273 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: O eight Cheap Wrangler, and I've done you know, breaks 274 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: in the past. But I had a little snag where 275 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: my rotor got hung up on the break shoes, and 276 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: after getting it off, it seems that I ought to 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: be replacing all them parts on the inside as well. 278 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I get the parts, but come to sign out, I've 279 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: got to pull the rear axles of course, uh, to 280 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: install the e break shoes. And I'm kind of starting 281 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: to think that maybe this is too much of a 282 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: job to be doing out here in the driveway, and 283 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: maybe I actually ought to go see a card doctor 284 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: and let them take care of it. Yeah, if it's 285 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: something you're not comfortable with, there are ways around without 286 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: having to pull the axles, but you need some special 287 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: tools and uh, some picks and ways to pull on 288 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: the springs and line things up. But yeah, it's you know, 289 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with brakes, Kent. The best advice I 290 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: can give you is if you're not sure, then let 291 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the professionals handle it, because you don't want to be 292 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: taking a chance and putting yourself in a bad situation. 293 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Likely what happened is that the shoes got caught up 294 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: on the rust lip on the inside of the rotor, 295 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and when you pull them off, you just dragged the 296 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: shoes with it. And you know, by now everything's twelve 297 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: thirteen years old and up in main high salt concentration area. 298 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure beat the heck out of the shoes in 299 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the hardware. So that would that would be your best bet? 300 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Is that your question? You're looking for? Um opinion, my 301 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: son as to which way to go? Yeah. I had 302 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: originally had the confidence that I could do a simple 303 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: break job with tads and rotors until I, you know, 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: ran into this complication and I couldn't really tell by 305 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: looking at the break how the break actually works. Um, 306 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: there's like a flat metal square. Yeah, there's a full 307 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: there's a fulcrum there that has to pivot and that 308 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: that wedges against the inside of the shoe, and then 309 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: it pushes one shoe out that contacts the rotor, and 310 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: then that pushes the other side of the metal, pivot 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: out to contact the other side of rotor, unlock everything 312 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: in place. Chances are that those levers that the cable 313 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: attaches to are frozen, so you want to be aware 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: of that too. Now, if you do decide to tackle 315 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: this all right, do you have those Do you have 316 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: the parts off in your hands? Everything just fallen off 317 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: when you pulled the rotor off. It was on the 318 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: first side that I did, and in fact, the little 319 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: clips that retain the pins that go through and pulled 320 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: through go and sell out the bottom of the rotor 321 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: before I was actually able to get the rotor off. 322 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: So um, the other side came off without being hung up. Um, 323 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: you can. You can do this without pulling the axles. 324 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Pulling the axles is easier, but it's a lot more work. 325 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: You can do this without pulling the axles. You just 326 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: need some patience. Pushed down on the push down on 327 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the retainer. Have you ever done drum brakes? I have 328 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: done drum brakes, and um, I seem to remember. I 329 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: didn't fuss with a special tool and was able to 330 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: put the springs on with a pair of needle nose 331 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: ice scripts. But these springs seemed to be under a 332 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: lot of tension, and they're doubled on one side, on 333 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the side of the adjuster. Does a spring in the 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: front and in the back? You know, I'm not even 335 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: sure of the procedure of what order you would assemble. Well, 336 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: you would likely you would likely put the springs on, 337 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: assemble the shoes on the ground as much as you can, 338 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: and then slide the shoes up from underneath so that 339 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: they're behind the axle. Is that a possibility if you 340 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: think about that in your mind? Did? Um? I just 341 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: was also trying to figure out why they wanted you 342 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: to pull the axle, and I'm guessing it's because that 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: round outer portion with the love studs. Uh, it needs 344 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: to clear that and it's probably uh not easy to 345 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: expands the assembly and right, right, right, we've done it. 346 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: We've done it both ways. It is easier with the 347 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: axles out, but with a little bit of patients and 348 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: a lift and not working in a driveway and trees 349 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: and leaves and things blowing around you, Um, it can 350 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a pain in the neck. 351 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: I vote for a professional that way, you know it's 352 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: done properly. Good luck to you, Kent. I'm running the 353 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome to back 354 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Got it? Love that music, Tom, that's 355 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: the best. Eight five six zero, Thank you a little more? 356 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: There you go. Okay, we're done. Five five zero nine 357 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'll do that again. Eight five five let 358 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: me come back again. Oh hey Tom, Ron, it's eight 359 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: five five zero zero. Com you're cracking me up. Um, 360 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: a real quick tip of the wrench. And actually this 361 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: got prompted. I've got a letter here in front of 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: me from Gary out in Phoenix, Arizona. Garry On's a 363 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: small repair shop out that way, and he's asking me, Hey, Ron, 364 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: we're a small repair shop out in Arizona, and from 365 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: time to time we've got a program keys and we're 366 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: finding it to be a real costly endeavor because of 367 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: where we're located. We're sort of out in the sticks, 368 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: and we've got issues with getting our customers vehicles to dealerships. 369 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Is there anything an independent repair shop that's sort of 370 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: off the beaten path can do about it? Gary out 371 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: here just past Phoenix, as he writes, Um, Gary, take 372 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: a look at the autel website. Go out to autel 373 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: tech dot com. They've got two models of maximum I 374 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: am six O eight and I am five O eight. 375 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: I believe the six oh eight is the more advanced 376 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: tool of the set. I've played with one for a 377 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: little bit. We don't have one in the shop and 378 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of key programming on our side. 379 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: And truth is, we're close to dealership, so I don't know, 380 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, how that applies to us. But for the 381 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: guys that are out, you know, sort of off the 382 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: beaten path, as you say, and I'm thinking, you know, 383 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you get out of the metropolitan area, there isn't a 384 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: deal the ship every five miles that you can swing 385 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: a cat at and it becomes more of an issue. 386 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: So I think for the shop, it's located, you know, 387 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: in a more rural area or more suburban area, not 388 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, city like I think. Uh. I think the 389 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: hotel stuff really has its place. They've won industry awards, 390 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: their top of the field, top of the class. You 391 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: can find that at autel tech dot com. The Maximum 392 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: I M six o eight or the Maximum I M 393 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: five oh eight. And thanks Gary, I appreciate the I 394 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the email. Let's go over and talk to uh. 395 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Let's see. I guess we'll go to Gary and Maine, Gary, Gary, 396 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Gary and Arizona, Gary and Maine, Gary. Welcome to the 397 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, Ron, I 398 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: have a Toyota Highlander hundred twenty thousand miles on it. Uh, 399 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: pretty pristine condition. The one thing that's wrong with it 400 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: is the display screen on the dash. It's a if 401 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: you've seen the model before, it's a two by three 402 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: in screen and gives you all the parameters of of 403 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: of the car that you know, the navigation control, the audio, 404 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: all the good stuff correct, right, and the screen and 405 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: the screen goes blank. Uh. Well, it started out it 406 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: would just blink on and off and and then it 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: was a half screen and and now it's the full screen. 408 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: It Uh, it doesn't go blank. It just comes up 409 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: with multicolored lines, critical lines, and sometimes half a screen 410 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: will come on and then it's off again. And now 411 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned this to my local dealership, uh, and they, 412 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, the only thing they said was it'll be 413 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: to replace that. And I just found that totally hard 414 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: to believe. Well, you know what Toyota. You know what 415 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Toyota stands for. It, aren't you? Too often Yankees overpriced 416 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: this automobile go ahead. Um, well, yeah, and here's here's 417 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: the case. So to cut to the chase. There's seven 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: connectors in the back of that navigator assembly. And there 419 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: are seven connectors, there's four there's three powers in one 420 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: ground connection spread out over those seven connectors. And it's 421 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: a simple it's a fairly simple diagnosis. It's if you've 422 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: got the three powers in the ground, you've got a 423 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: bad navigator assembly. Now I've heard this horror story. It's 424 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: it's it's ugly. Yeah, and I say that I think 425 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: it makes a great car. I just think some of 426 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: their stuff is off the wall. Somebody was telling me 427 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: a story this week about a break booster and an 428 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: oh three sequoia. That was because it's got electronics built 429 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: inside the booster, some switches for high and low travel 430 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: and other things. It's just some of the stuff is 431 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: just crazy. Uh. And by the way, get used to this, 432 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: because electronics aren't going away anytime soon. I had a 433 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: friend to go through this, and what Tony did was 434 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: he did some research up on eBay. Not to point 435 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: you in that direction, but it's worth a shot. He 436 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: had a Prius with an navigation screen that stopped working, 437 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: and he found somebody and he was in a similar situation, 438 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, very high cost to you know, buy the 439 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: piece from Toyota. He found a fella up on eBay 440 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: that has an electronics repair service and he was able 441 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: to send it out and he got it back for 442 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: a third of the price and it's been working fine 443 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: for the past seven months eight months, So you know, 444 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: there's there's ways around it. I think I would, you know, 445 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: obviously read the reviews, but before I handed anybody two 446 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: by three TV screen, I would definitely do some research 447 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: and if I could find somebody for five bucks, you 448 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: know it's worth the shot. It was a common failure, 449 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: so I won't be surprised if that is. Indeed, it 450 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: gary just just to set the record straight, Okay, So 451 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: wherever I take it to, should should first do a 452 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: diagnosis on the wiring? H I think so, don't you? 453 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it was a light, if 454 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: it was a light bulb, it's fairly cut and dry. 455 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: You in the house and the light bulb doesn't work. 456 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: You score a light bulb been and it still doesn't light. 457 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: It's the price of a light bulb, right if you 458 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: if you just blindly change this navigation assembly, and even 459 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: if it's five hund bucks, Hey, what if it's Toyota 460 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: is the only game in town and it's aren't you 461 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: gonna diagnose it first? You know? I mean a diagnosis 462 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: there it should be an hour, hour and a half hundred, 463 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty bucks, isn't that? You know? We 464 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: can't be afraid to diagnose. I know you keep hearing 465 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: me say that, you and everybody else that still listens 466 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: to this show, which I give you guys credit to 467 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: endure me sometimes every week. But you know it's it's 468 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: we go to the doctor and we say, you know, 469 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: my elbow hurts. He doesn't give us pills? What does 470 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: he do? We tests were no different, cars are no different. 471 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: You know, the amount of diagnosis, you know, the amount 472 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: of diagnosis that has to be done on a regular 473 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: basis is going to go up because it's getting more 474 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: and more complex. So yeah, I'd spend a hundred and 475 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: fifty bucks to five apart that I was getting, was 476 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: you know correct? You know? Now I could do that? 477 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Did they have to disassemble? The cluster has to come out, 478 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: The navigation assembly does have to come out, Yes, So 479 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: the trim has to come off, and you know all 480 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: that that's entailed. Did you listen to the last week's showy, Gary? 481 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, do you listen to the last 482 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: week's show? It all? I? I can't remember. I I 483 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: I turn it on when I'm in the car. And 484 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: do you remember Vinnie? Do you remember Vinny from Florida 485 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: with his son's Honda that's stalled at the traffic light 486 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: and the dealer told him he needed a starter? Y? Yeah, 487 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: so I've got Here's why you diagnose, right, here's why 488 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: you call the car doctor. So Vinny wrote me during 489 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: the week, he said, ron I called it on the 490 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: last weekend's show, the two thousand eight Honda with a 491 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: no crank, no start. My son was at a red 492 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: light with his foot on the brake and we put 493 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: his foot on the accelerator. The car stalled. The dealer 494 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: diagnosed it as a bad starter issue since it would 495 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: not crank. After we talked, I pressed the dealer to 496 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: diagnosed the car further, and I even offered to pay 497 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: the hourly rate to diagnose the car. They continued to 498 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: insist it was the starter, even when I kept trying 499 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: to tell them that a car would not stall due 500 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: to a bad starter. You know, Vinny has more common 501 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: sense than the dealer. I approved the starter when they 502 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: went to put the starter in, which I don't understand 503 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: how this could happen. When they went to put the 504 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: starter and they noticed the drive belt tension are broke 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: and the belt got jammed in with the crank, preventing 506 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: it from cranking. Fortunately, they had not put the starter, 507 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: and it did not charge me labor for starting the 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: process to install the starter. The cars running finding back 509 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: on the road. And my point is, as I said 510 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: to Vinny, as I say to you, a diagnosis is 511 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: worth its weight in gold. At least you repair a 512 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: vehicle with confidence instead of guessing. Could you imagine how 513 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: stupid the dealer would look if they put a starter 514 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: in the car and then it still doesn't start. Oh, 515 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: we found this belt. By the way, you need a 516 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: belt assembly, an accessory drive belt. Hey hey, hey, Gary, 517 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: we're gonna put navigation computer in your car. It's the 518 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: best guests we got. Doesn't work like that, right, Well, 519 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: thanks for the advice. You're welcome, Garrett. You take good 520 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: care and have a good rest of the weekend. Zero 521 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I don't care where you go, Folks, 522 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: diagnosis is it's the only place you can start when 523 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: it comes to repair in a car. Ronny in the 524 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: car Doctor back right after this round the back and 525 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: going home. I'm Ron in the car Doctor. We're here 526 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: at five zero nine zero zero. Real quick piece of email. 527 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: Ron Joe from Kentucky down here in Louisville Main Street 528 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: order Repair. I just want to follow up and let 529 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: you know that we purchased an a c X air 530 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: conditioning machine from the folks over at Mala. Good choice, Joe, uh, 531 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: he says, And I want to let you know that 532 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: since we heard you talking about it, we're very happy 533 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: with it. We think you're spot on the money. We 534 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: actually had a small problem with it and they were 535 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: able to fix it wirelessly over the year, and we're 536 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: just totally amazed. They had us back up and running 537 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: in a matter of hours, and we're very happy and 538 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: we're glad we made the purchase. Joe mains you Auto 539 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: down in Louisville. Joe, you know what, if I talk 540 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: about it, I use it. Brother. Um, that's something I've 541 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: stuck to for the past thirty years here on radio, 542 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's just it's just that important. 543 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be able to tell you that, hey, I'm 544 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: working with something, and whether they're an advertiser or not. 545 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: I like something, I talk about it. It works. I'm 546 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: just trying to help you to fix the car, and 547 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: for everybody else, if you're interested, for all the repair 548 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: shops out there, get out the service solutions dot Mala 549 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: dot com, m A h L E. Mala dot com. 550 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: You cammut all about their line of air conditioning machines 551 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: and some of the other products that they have. Good stuff. 552 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: And Joe, thanks for listening down Louisville Way if I 553 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: remember your way. All stuff, and let's go over to 554 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: Michael and Rhode Island, Oh nine Grand caravan and some 555 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: is ssues with the temperature. Michael, Welcome to the car doctor. 556 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? How are you good? How 557 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: are you have a problem when the car When the 558 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: bean is in traffic, it's fine. But every day it's fine. 559 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: But when the according to traffic or it gets hot 560 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: out like in the nineties, and the neil starts going 561 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: beyond halfway. And when that happens, the shifter it's hard 562 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: to shift. And when you shift it up it instead 563 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: of going into park from drive, it stops a halfway 564 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: before and the indicator says that it's in revers and 565 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: at that time you can't take the key out or 566 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: shut it off. And it happened to me twice. And 567 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: then you wait ten minutes and then it's fun. You 568 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: can shut it off and put it in park. Okay, 569 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: let's take these one at the time. All right. If 570 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: if you let the vehicle idle, just sitting there, idling 571 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: and running, will it eventually overheat or is it just 572 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: at random when it does this? It's at random? If 573 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: you live at Ido look at Idol for half an 574 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: hour and nothing would happen at times? Okay? And is 575 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: it that you have to be moving in order to 576 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: get this to happen. No, it's sucks. It's only it 577 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: only happened when we were when I've been moving. Okay, 578 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: is do you happen to know? Can you tell? Are 579 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you from you're with the sound that the cooling fans 580 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: will make when they're operating, Yes, the cooling spans go on. 581 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: I listened for that. This is this is a handicap 582 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: fan Greend, Caribbean. But it's concluded. But I've listened. I've 583 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: listened to the sounds and the fans kick on. Okay, 584 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: if if you if you get out of traffic and 585 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: drive it, it's fine, it's fine, and it goes down. 586 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: So we've got to assume that it's physically overheating. Okay, right, 587 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: would you agree with would you agree with you? I 588 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: agree with that, Okay. So if the engine is overheating, 589 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm questioning, are you getting you know, there's two fan 590 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: motors there there should be in O nine, there's there's 591 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: there's a high and a low speed. I'm wondering if 592 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: you're getting the low speed and not the high. I'm 593 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: looking for a reason why it's overheating first, and then 594 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start to think about why it's not shifting 595 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: like does because the ship linkage on that's a cable. 596 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: That's a mechanical thing. So I'm wondering if I'm wondering 597 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: if something is getting so hot that it's it's causing 598 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: a problem with the linkage or the shifter cable. Has 599 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: anybody inspected the shifter cable to see is the outer housing, 600 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: outer casing starting to melt or the form? No, no, 601 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: no one's looked at it yet. I'm I'm waiting to 602 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: go in in two weeks when I can get a 603 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: rental van. Yeah, no, I understand, um, but that's what 604 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: I would be looking at. It would not be uncommon 605 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: for one fan motor to fail or actually for a 606 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: fan I've also seen it where the fan blade falls 607 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: off and the motor spins, but obviously there's nothing for 608 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: it to turn. So maybe in the next two weeks 609 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: before you, you know, take it in, if somebody could 610 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: pop the hood for you, let it sit there and 611 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: run or try turning on the air conditioning. Do both 612 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: fan motors engage, because if only one fan motor is engaging, 613 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: you may not want to drive it because you may 614 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: be overheating it, you know, running it hotter than you 615 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: should be, even if the gauge isn't up, causing an 616 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: issue and possibly doing long term damage. All right, do that? 617 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Let me know what when you go in two weeks, 618 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: would you call me back and tell me what the 619 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: end result is. I'm curious. All right, Thank you, Michael, 620 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: you'd be well. You take good care of my friend 621 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: eight five five zero. The car doctor is coming back 622 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back on an end of card, doc. 623 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick look at Facebook. Helen writes in 624 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: and asks, what's the diagnosis? Ron, How's it done? Who 625 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: does it? Diagnosis? Helen? A diagnosis is a breakdown of 626 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: a problem. Take any problem. The front door doesn't unlock, 627 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: the front door is stuck, the light doesn't turn on, 628 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: the car doesn't start, the house is stuffy. A diagnosis 629 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: is that thought process of how am I going to 630 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: resolve the problem, whatever it is. When it comes to 631 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: an automobile, it's done on a system basis. We're going 632 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: to attack it and look at system by system. If 633 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: it's if it's an engine running problem with the without 634 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: a check engine light, there's specific things we're going to 635 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: go through. It's no different than going to a doctor. 636 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: They always look at basics, heart rate, blood pressure, vital signs. 637 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: What's the first thing they do when you walk into 638 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: an emergency room. You could be there for a busted leg. 639 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: They're taking your heart rate and blood pressure because they 640 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: want to know your basics. They want to standardize what 641 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: possibly could be wrong with you. Same thing with an automobile. 642 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to work, and that's the 643 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: way it's gonna be done from now until time immemorial. 644 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: Because of the complexity of cars, a diagnosis, to me 645 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: is an essential and mandatory part of every repair. Take 646 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: a look in the news today, everybody, and Helen, by 647 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: the way, thank you very much for the comment. Take 648 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: a look in the news today. Japanese flying car company 649 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: conducts successful text flight test flight. Skydive Ink announced Friday 650 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: that it carried out a successful test flight with one 651 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: person aboard, and they released images of a car flying 652 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: with propellers lifted several feet off the ground that hovered 653 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: in a needed area for four minutes. We wanted to 654 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: realize the society, the CEO of the company said, We're 655 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: flying cars are an accessible and convenient means of transportation 656 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: in the skies, and people are able to experience a 657 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: safe and secure, comfortable new way of life. Of the 658 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: world's more than one flying car projects, only a handful 659 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: have succeeded with a person on board. Good Lord right, 660 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: the machine so FLAR can so far can fly for 661 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: just five to ten minutes, but that that can become 662 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: But if that can become thirty minutes, it will have 663 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: more potential, including in the Chinese market. The CEO went 664 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: on to say, the Japanese government is stressing the possibility 665 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: of connecting remote areas and providing lifelines in the stars. 666 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: And my point is, if you think diagnosis is not 667 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: needed on a car, now, why don't we get the 668 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: flying cars where oh gee, we guessed wrong and the 669 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: car stops flying somewhere in mid air. Like Papa told me, 670 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: you can't get out at five thousand feet and check 671 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: the carburetor to see if it's running rich or lean. 672 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: You better know before you step out onto the cloud. 673 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: And that's why, as now, as always, good mechanics aren't expensive, 674 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See