1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Last week Paul and I caught up with 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Bernstein, one of the greatest photographers of the NBA. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Y'all check this out. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Certain faster and certain faster, certain fast, certain faster and 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: certain faster, certain fast. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Certain it's a green summer. Yeah, we built differently. You 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: aren't watching the games. I can't watch it again. You're outside, 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: We're alive. That's when you stopped production. No bad, but 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: we want. 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: He hello Fellas. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: I for you to no and he came to today. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: I put one of these Ryan Stones on myself. 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: The iconic listen man fell and the house got the 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: most icon photos and hoops. If we could talk and 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: say that Michael Jordan is probably one of the best 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: to ever pick up a basketball, I gotta say, man, 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: you probably one the best at shoot the best. This 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: is taking along right here. This man has forty years 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: of being in the NBA. Man, he has shot the 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: best of the best. He's been. He's probably seen. 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: I did forty straight final. 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: But it's all about It's all about the content. It's 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: all about the subject matter, you know. I mean, if 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: I didn't have you guys to shoot and the talent 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: that I was in front of me every single night, 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, starting with showtime. 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: Going all through you know, the Jordan era. 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Shaq and Kbe and Kobe and Powell and you guys 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: and man would have had to find another job. 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: I gotta that's amazing that you shot. I know you 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: just don't have one, but can you have Do you 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: have some memorable moments where you was like, wow, I 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: got that? 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: Well? 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: You know, two of my most memorable moments are not 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: action shots, which I'm kind of known. 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: As an action photographer. You know, the great Dunks and 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: all that was. 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Number One's got to be Michael Jordan holding the trophy 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: first Championship ninety one, crying his eyeballs out, was his 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: dad next to him in the forum. The visitor's locker 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: room is a thing that happened in two seconds. In fact, 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: in the last stance, they did almost a whole episode 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: about that moment. 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: And you can see me. It's crazy. 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: If you look at the ball of the trophy, you 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: see the flash. 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: Going, yeah, I've been the reflection. It's bizarre. 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: And then my second favorite, probably one a is is 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: I like to call it Kobe on Ice. You guys 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: are probably seeing the black and White when the Mambas 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: got his legs in ice. He's got his little broken 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: finger in a coffee cup, meditating all by himself and 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: Madison square Garden in the locker room, which, as you 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: guys know, that locker room, visitors, locker room. But it's 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: tiny time, and he didn't have any other room to 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: go to, like another arenas where he'd go to a broom, 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: closet or a jack's room. 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: Whatever. He had to do it in the locker room. 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: And it's one of my favorite photos. 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: In those days. The locker room was so small, but 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: media still had to come in. Yeah, in New York, 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the media, Paul, you know this, We all know this. Yeah, yeah, 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: when you probably would have maybe titer reporters. You get 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: to New York and they would probably be over easy 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: one hundred, probably fifty. Yeah, crowd into. 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: The room, yeah, packed in. Yeah. 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Sure. 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: So I was traveling with them during that season that 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 3: was twenty nine and ten. I was here. 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: I was working on the book with Phil Jackson, and 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: I was you know, I was able to wait till 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: the media left, and then I had about thirty seconds 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: before Phil came in and gave me the eyebrow and 75 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: if you guys never seen the Phil bring the hell 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: out it means, but I had then I just I 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: just turned and there there he was, just sitting there 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: meditating in the locker. 79 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: So you've gotten access, You've been in some yeah moments 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: where players at the highest, players at the lowest, and 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: just captured it all through through photography. 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But it's access to that I had to earn ken. 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, nobody lets you in the inner sanctum, 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: and the inner sanctum to you guys, is sacred right. 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: And I had to learn to how to respect that. 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: Had to earn my access. This is way back in 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: the pat Riley days where you know, Pat challenged me. 89 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: He said, look, man, I'm gonna let you kind of 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: in this thing once, but you screw it up, you're 91 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: not coming back. And I was the first photographer in 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: for all Phil Jackson's eleven championships. 93 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 94 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: And it's a funny story. 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: So the first year, you know, I'm the first guy 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: in and the champagne's flying in the whole thing, and 97 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking for Phil, looking for Phil. He's in the 98 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: back smoking stogies, you know, and he gives me the 99 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: eye and then the next year, same thing. Right the 100 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: third year, he looks at me and goes, are we 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: even going to make a habit of this? 102 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: And I said, I hope so, Coach, you know why not? 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: So you know, there were a bunch after that, but 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 3: it was great. 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: Where do you store in today's world? Yeah, you're probably 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: so marvel right now because the world is full of 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: full of photos. When Paul and I played was very 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: very secretive, very private, a lot more private when we 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: played back in twenty thirty years ago. It has to 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: be a lot easier. 111 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: Everybody's got the phone. 112 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Everybody photography, So you're probably loving all of this. Yeah, 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: where do you store? Would? Where do you I can 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: only imagine your portfolio of pictures? Yeah, with everything going digital, 115 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: with everything being hard drives, where do you I know 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: you have album covers, I know you have hard copies. 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Were not specifically, but do you have a place where 118 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: you store all your things? 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: And that's a great question. I mean half my career 120 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: was pre digital, so that means. 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 122 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: For NBA Photos. 123 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: When we created NBA Photos in nineteen eighty six, David 124 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Stern's mandate was that we need to have a central 125 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: point where film is stored with the history of the 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: league moving forward, but he also wanted the history of 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: the league moving backward, because the NBA at that time 128 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: did not have an art going back to the beginning of. 129 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: The league did capture no So we had to go 130 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: reach out to photographers who had been around since the 131 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: inceptional League and the great Shelding and stuff. 132 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Dick Rayfield, remember Dick Rayfield, little guy who used to 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: sit on the stool. So we met with Dick and 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: got his collection, of course of the great Celtic era 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: all of that. 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: So listen, I got well, I want to. 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: So what did you bring today? Tell us what your brain? 138 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: What's going on with that? 139 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: Hey boy? 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: This durfday. 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: This is look, this is Paul. Look boy, you look 142 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: fresh as hell. What that man got on? Make up? Man? 143 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: Man? 144 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: That man got on blush man. 145 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: But these are the moments that I love you guys. 146 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: All Star weekend, All Star weekends out. 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm getting ready. You know you ain't talking 148 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: about what happened, man, y'all should have been. 149 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 4: In the day. 150 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: I never listened. I just took. 151 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, get the pitching, you know, man, I 152 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: hated what year is this? 153 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: That, so that that's kind of. 154 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: It looks like, yeah, yeah, two thousand six. 155 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. We go back to let's see 156 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: what we got here? 157 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: Man, you got he got some classes. 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: I like this one. I like this portrait. 159 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: I shot the clippers and you came through right there, 160 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: you came home, and I never got the Clipper colors, man. 161 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: And of course you can't leave out something. I kind 162 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: of hosted garden right final. 163 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: That's two thousand. Yeah, he got about two o'clock. I 164 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: can tell you to get there. 165 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: I used to get there when Larry had shooting. 166 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a hard. 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: People, it's a great deal. Love this story. 168 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: So Larry, you know, used to come hours and hours 169 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: just like Kobe did you know. And I always wanted 170 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: to get a picture of an empty Boston. 171 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Garden with all the banners. 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Larry shooting and he had one ball boy, 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: that was it. 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: So I eased myself over to his side of the 175 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: court and crouched down right next to the basket. 176 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: And as he took the shot, I hit the button 177 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: and the strobe the flash went off. Oh, Larry looked 178 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: around like this, and then he looked at me, and he. 179 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: Came up to me and says, look down to me, 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: because you. 181 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: Never you're gonna do that during the game, right, And 182 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: I can't do his you know, Indiana draw And I said, 183 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: uh no, sir, thank you, But it tells you I'd 184 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: be the greatest picture, one of the greatest ever shot 185 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: all the banners and everything. 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: So how far did technology have to come for you 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: to be able to not just get long lands and 188 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: get things from a distance, but be able to get 189 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: things from the backboard. Well, you actually incorporated a bunch 190 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: of stuff that wasn't there as far as photography that 191 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: you actually I thought just totally to the league and 192 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: how you saw it. 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate that camera. 194 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: It was a there was a generation this one, this one. 195 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm laying I'm laying on the floor. One of you 196 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: guys doesn't step on me. 197 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: I look. 198 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny you mentioned that can because 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: there was a generation of photographers before us who set 200 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: the set the table, Neil Life or John Zimmerman. These 201 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: guys were the first ones to put cameras behind backboard, 202 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: up in the rafters. But in those days you can 203 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: only do what was called one remote camera that synced 204 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: with the flashes you can see a little flashes going off, 205 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: and it was one one camera, one remote camera. Well, 206 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: we at the NBA helped develop a system where you 207 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: could have multiple cameras fire at exactly the same moment. 208 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: So cameras are mounted all over the arena and the catwalk, 209 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: behind the backboard, on the stanchion. Sometimes we had human 210 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: beings holding them. You know Jordan's zero point six shot 211 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: over Utah, Yeah, that was actually a person named Fernando Medina, 212 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: longtime photographer in Orlando, holding the camera on the other baselines. Yes, 213 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: where I pushed the button and his camera went off, and. 214 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: That's the photo you see. 215 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: Wow listen. 216 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: So that's that was a team effort. 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand when players are playing 218 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you see flash. Yeah, yeah, people is probably better 219 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: at shooting through distractions. Pea and I seen Pee have 220 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: damn near a wall up and he don't see nothing. 221 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: He shoots it the same. Yeah, I'm gonna use loft 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: and all this other shit, right, And I've always always 223 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: had a special appreciation for focus. He's probably one of 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: the least focused months I know, but when he locked 225 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: in some at least he locked in and he sees 226 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: it right, But the flaners does go all right, right, 227 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: talk about what had to go into play to protect 228 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the players in the in the game, in the play 229 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: of game, to not just get a moment, but not 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: to you know, not to distract they'll become. 231 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: Or potentially be dangerous. So this photo, this is a 232 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 3: case in point. 233 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: We used to do a remote where a remote camera 234 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: was placed on the floor off to the side where 235 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: the photographers and videographers sit and an assistant would sit 236 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: behind it. And if one of you guys came close 237 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: on you know, some kind of you know play that 238 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: was going out of bounds whatever, they pull it and 239 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: then you know, protect you and protect the camera. But 240 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: the most important thing for us was always to protect 241 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: the players. 242 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: Right. 243 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, a couple of times, like Barkley landed on one, 244 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: Michael felt on bron cut his head on the cameras, 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: So the NBA outlawed what was called the floor remote 246 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: and I was like mortified. My favorite shot because so 247 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: I spent the summer trying to figure out how can 248 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: I do this flory mode and have it be safe 249 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: for the players. 250 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: So you put it underneath and didn't put a black 251 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: listen I saw that I saw that. Listen, listen, listen. 252 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: I used to go to Jeff twisting like then they 253 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: got a camera right, listen, Yeah, I got I got everything. 254 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: I got fine. I got fine one time blocking somebody's 255 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: shot and then telling them about it. But it was 256 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: a mic underneath the rimp. They didn't tell us this. Yeah, 257 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: it's also at the bottom of the basket. Right, it's 258 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a little circle and it's got 259 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: So I saw it when they came back and said, 260 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: at six seventeen, you told getting for reek to seventy five, 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: and I got fine. So when I first thing I 262 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: came out, we came out, I looked for all the 263 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: cameras and mic right right. 264 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: I remember you came out once there was a fire. 265 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: It's weird, but you think it the south of him 266 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: on the back. You come to shake Hans, you look good. 267 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: It's you're like, YoY, what are you doing? I gotta 268 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: get it? Just keep doing what but you make a 269 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: picture like that? Go back to you laying on your 270 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: fucking back. You almost got tramp, you understand. Yes, listen, 271 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: in another day where we all have enough time, I 272 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: would love to come to your price and see someone. 273 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: But I know you got I know you have lifestyle. 274 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: I know you have things outside of basketball. I know 275 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: you got a beautiful collection. 276 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: Man. 277 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be you guys. That'd be a pleasure. 278 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: There's some intensity going on in this photo. 279 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Right, what are you telling him in this picture, Paul, 280 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: and I can say this with right too. Very few 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: people understood. I call it control chaos, and actually he 282 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: would throw fire on the control. K He wanted me. 283 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: He wanted me wearing wolf. He wanted me wear wolf. 284 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: So he understood that. So we got along great. When 285 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: we suited up in what I am, we was best 286 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: fucking friends. We never any issues and was cutting dry. 287 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We played great together because 288 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: we never had a issue on whatever it was. You 289 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was always whatever's the best situation. 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: You're in battle and. 291 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: Went in the same way, Yeah, Kobe, the same thing. 292 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah what we What was going on in this It 293 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: might have been a situation where walking this happened to me. 294 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: My interpretation is looked like I had to mind. It 295 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: looked like I took a bad shot. He looked at 296 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: me like you could pass me the ball to no, No, no, no, 297 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: look like I took the bad shot walking back like that, 298 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: like I'm looking at him the way I'm looking at him, 299 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: it looked like I got him out of some real ship, 300 00:14:53,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: like he's getting tacked up and like hold down that 301 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: like I took you out a song, I said, I 302 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: got he looking like right here, swing the ball you got. 303 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you something. I got to thank both of you, guys. 304 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, combined twenty five All Star games between the 305 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: two of you, that's just all those great moments, and 306 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: you know, thank you for allowing me in the end 307 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: or sanctum. 308 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: I know you sometimes. 309 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: Didn't like it cool, but but you know what, we 310 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: got our job done. 311 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: And documenting both of your careers was amazing. I documented 312 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: this guy today. 313 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: He announced that he was going to Kansas and I'd 314 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: been trying too. 315 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: And at the form interview the. 316 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Kansas you remember that it's crazy. 317 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: Well it was a great moment. 318 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave me announced I was going to Kansas 319 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: talking to ship. Always a great many bursters, awesome guys, 320 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and appreciate you man, dangn may probably everybody comes see 321 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: that collection too. Let us know, dog real shit, yo, guys, yo, 322 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I caught up my guy Matt from DAPs, one of 323 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: the greatest in memobilia of learn his name, DAPs the 324 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: name for real, y'all. Check this footage'all him and I 325 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: opening up some different memorabilia. That was really cool. Check 326 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: this out. 327 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: Man. 328 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Listen, man, we got my dog Matt from DAPs today. Boy, 329 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: this is my dog. You know what I'm saying. Man, 330 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: I love everything y'all doing over there, Man, switch straight 331 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: up at DAPs. Man, You guys have activated the fun 332 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: in memobilia. Man, talk about how you started that. Man. 333 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 6: I started this company in my bedroom, all right, and 334 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: I'm just, hey, let me do a little side hustle. 335 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: Let me try to make one hundred dollars a night. 336 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 6: One hundred turns into five hundred, five hundred turns into 337 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 6: one thousand. I do seventy grand one night in my bedroom. 338 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 6: I'm like, I should probably take this. 339 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: A little more seriously, right you think. 340 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: So I get a little shot on Melrose and we 341 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 6: just slowly grow the business. And you know, we on TikTok, 342 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: we're big on Instagram, We're big on. 343 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: All the social platforms that you can find us on. 344 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: And you know, we're pretty good at this thing called 345 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 6: live shopping, which I don't know you heard about. But 346 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 6: collectibles are a big deal, man, and they're also fun, 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: and people don't realize that. Like, if you have a 348 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 6: knowledge of sports, you can apply that to this business 349 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: and really hustle and make money. I remember, right, So 350 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 6: I grew up in the nineties, was born in the 351 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 6: late eighties, so I love all the nineties stuff. 352 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: You were drafted in ninety five. 353 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: That'll be fine. 354 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: So let me show you something real quick. 355 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh shit, you brought some exclusives with you today. So 356 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: if y'all don't know this man always has to exclusive. 357 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: You always got some fire shit. Bro, I already know you. 358 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: You g four classified. I know you probably got a 359 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: whole nother alphabet passing here and shit talking about where 360 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: you get your stuff from before you even show orders. 361 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Look at this, this is ment. Oh we need gloves. 362 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: What are gloves there? 363 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: Bro? Jem Man ten ten out of ten they call 364 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: it a dime. 365 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 6: So listen. I, like I said, I grew up in 366 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 6: the nineties collecting Pokemon. It just came out late nineties. 367 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: Like I'm like, you know that generation, right. The thing 368 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: about all this stuff is like people didn't care about 369 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 6: it debt because they were overprinted, right, So the manufacturer 370 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 6: of the cards, they made too many cards, which drove 371 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: the value down. So then in twenty eleven they start 372 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: to print them and they start to serial number these things. 373 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 6: And they had been doing it a little bit before then, 374 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: but they really get big with this company, Pinini, and 375 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 6: it's it's been wild to watch. They produced these cards 376 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 6: called one on ones, right, and the flex is if 377 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 6: you've got the Rookie one to one Steph Curry, you're 378 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 6: the only person in the world with that car. WHOA Right, 379 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 6: So there's this huge chase. You remember what is the 380 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: Monopoly game? Right, you go to you know, walk you 381 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 6: and you pull the yeah yeah, and on the fries 382 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: and on the burgers, and you're pulling off the stickers. 383 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 6: You're collecting and you're trying to win a million dollars. 384 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: That's sports cards, right, that's collectibles. So you know growing 385 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 6: up like this was my shit ninety five medal Michael Jordan, Right, 386 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 6: but look at this. 387 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Old John. I gotta show the camera this. You go 388 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: the camera. This is like a sexy lady right here. Boy, 389 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: you hear me. This is the pre mode of the 390 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: premo right here. This is we should have gloves on 391 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: touching this film me. 392 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 6: What's even cooler though, is that that's you remember. 393 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 4: This young man right here? 394 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Who is that? 395 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 6: But this is the same ninety five medal KG and 396 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 6: again rookie right. 397 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: So these are the cards. 398 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 6: That I wanted when I was a kid, you know, 399 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 6: put them in a binder. And the reason these things 400 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 6: are valuable now is think about how many kids put 401 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 6: these cards in binders, didn't take care of them. Somebody 402 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 6: was smart enough to keep this preserved. So this is 403 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: a gem in ten out of ten conditions, and that's 404 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: what keeps the value up of these things. 405 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: That's crazy. One of the reasons when I'm starting to 406 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: think called the house of authentics, where you actually have 407 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: a chance to have authentic things like this. I think 408 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: that the market too has so many chases of things 409 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: that have been in the past. And is it that 410 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: we're trying to always hold on to things in the 411 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: past commemorate them. Why you think it's such a demand 412 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: for things that come from the past versus commodity being 413 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: built in the future. 414 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 6: Well, I think at some point something that is present 415 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 6: and people are hyped about, like for example, like remember 416 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 6: the whole. 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: Beanie baby craze back in the day. 418 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 6: Those things went up in value tremendously then, but they're 419 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: not even as valuable now as they were then, even 420 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: though we're twenty thirty years in the future. 421 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 4: Right. 422 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 6: But then there's other commodities like listen, Mickey Mantle rookie 423 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: card that was produced in nineteen fifty two. Right, So 424 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 6: a couple of years ago I had the privilege of 425 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 6: holding this card. It was an SGC nine point five 426 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 6: out of ten. It wasn't a ten. It sold for 427 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: twelve million dollars. 428 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: What didn't make it the ten. 429 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 6: The small So there four conditions of grading a card, 430 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 6: all right. 431 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: There's the edges, some. 432 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Of these defects that affect the value of everything. 433 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 6: There's the corners, there's the surface, and the fourth one 434 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 6: is the centering. So the machine that cuts the card 435 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 6: if it's slightly off center, that day, your card's off center. 436 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: So that means right out the pack, brand new, you 437 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 6: don't have a ten out of ten. 438 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 439 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 6: And that's what makes this collecting thing quote unquote valuable 440 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 6: is that there's only so many psa ten Kevin Garnett 441 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 6: ninety five medals like, there's a lot of this card, 442 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 6: but there's only two hundred psa tens, right, so you're 443 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: one of two hundred people. Now when you talk about memorabilia, though, 444 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 6: I brought you a little some check this out. You 445 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 6: got worthy, Steve Kerr, Horace Grant, Divac. But check on 446 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: the back. That's a piece of Magic Johnson's jersey. That's 447 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 6: a piece of Jordan's jersey. That's a piece of Scotty 448 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: Pippens jerseys. And they put it into this one card 449 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 6: and that's cool. That's why people collect this stuff. There's 450 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 6: only three of these in the entire world. Right, So 451 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: now imagine game use Kevin Gardnet jersey. You cut it up, 452 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: you have a Kobe jersey or a Team Ac jersey 453 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: or whoever you used to play ball with, and you 454 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 6: make something like this, right, Like that's something who somebody 455 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 6: like me or somebody who watched you, somebody from Boston 456 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: who watched you in a championship. They want to collect 457 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 6: the Kevin Gardner at Paul Pierce piece of that jersey 458 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 6: from that game. 459 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 4: Like that means something to them. 460 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 6: So it's it's a moment in time, but it's also 461 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: the scarcity right of the of the actual collectible. 462 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: The verity things that people can't have or having very 463 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: little of them. How much more does a signature help 464 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: cards go up in value or does it even do 465 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: any Does a signature does anything to the value of. 466 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: A car tremendously? 467 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 468 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, So like this one for example, So that's Saint Vincent, 469 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 6: Saint Mary's hard lebron James, how. 470 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Do you have these outside? Man, motherfucking man. 471 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: So you know, listen, this card without that signature. 472 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: On it is, Oh, I ain't even it's cool, right, 473 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: he laid it perfectly on here too, bro, the signature yep. 474 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 4: And this card is from Let's see. 475 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: You're no bullshit. You should see how he laid the 476 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: signature perfectly on this, right. 477 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: And believe it or not, that matters too. 478 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: So you can have the same way you get a 479 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: grade on the card, you can have a grade on 480 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: the autograph. So you can have a ten out of 481 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 6: ten autograph. So this might be a ten out of ten. 482 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: So I definitely have fucked up. I've definitely messed up 483 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: some goddamn signature. We're doing that because sometime my signature, 484 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: sure I should be all over the place like that's 485 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: why I'm amaze when y'all see this. I don't know 486 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: if he's gonna let yall see these or whatever, but 487 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: when you see the signature, that is a that's got 488 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: to be a ten. 489 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 6: Right? 490 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Does he put that perfectly? 491 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: He did that very well, that is. 492 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: And if you see to see to see is about 493 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: what this big? Yeah? 494 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 6: This is a great patch and this is what collectors want. 495 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Holy how much of something like this? 496 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: Like four grand? 497 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: Holy? Ship? 498 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 499 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: So you got some ship man? Yeah? 500 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: Man? And I mean listen, like this is some more 501 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 6: stuff from the nineties. 502 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: This was a This was a collab with Duncan Donuts. 503 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: So check that out. 504 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: It's your fucking cars. 505 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 4: So you got Kobe? 506 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 507 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: So I bought this for like. 508 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: You got Yeah, you wrought your heat today. Say bring the. 509 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: Heat, bro. 510 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: There's only like sixty of these in the world, bro. 511 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 6: So you know, you see something like this, they say 512 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: collect what you like. When I saw this, it reminded 513 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: me of being a kid, and I'm like, this is sick. 514 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 6: You know, it's just sick. 515 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: D You told me you got the Kobe Duncans Yo, 516 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yo? This ship hard? Low key? 517 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: You see this, it's a hard car Bro. 518 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 6: And the other cool thing about this though, is that. 519 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: Like that's a hard ass car. 520 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: Not only is it cool, but like I bought this 521 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 6: thing for five grand and it's worth fifteen now, right, 522 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: So like you can make there's an investment opportunity here 523 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 6: for people. Listen, there's a lot of cards you invest 524 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 6: in you. I've lost money on Zion, I've lost money 525 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 6: on Luca. 526 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: Like, it's not. 527 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 6: All plus money, but when you make the right moves, 528 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 6: like this one has gone up insane and it's Michael 529 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 6: Jordan bro. 530 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: So let me tell you what my theory is. When 531 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: it comes to players that you just named. All players 532 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: you just name have high high side yep. And I 533 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: look at the memorabilia industry, it's like this. So it's 534 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: all constant peaks and valleys, right, perfect time for anybody 535 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: to get things on Luca Zion. No, why because I 536 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: think the upside is going to be more up than low. 537 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: Not only that, but the lead their potential. Yeah, you know, 538 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: think about players growth. You know what we never get 539 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: players never give them the never We never give them 540 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: the development or the equation or even at the end, 541 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: the growth pattern or the growth options. I just think 542 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: Zion gonna be Zion. But of year four, well, when 543 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Zion gets to year seven, year eight, I'm expecting a 544 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: different Zion in his thinking. Sure, so I'm expecting his 545 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: play to be different if he's on another team with 546 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: other players, stuff like that and how he develops. But yeah, 547 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: when I see things like that and I see players 548 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: on their lower end, those are the times I like 549 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: to actually acquire things. 550 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 6: And that's the exact time to require them. I mean, listen, 551 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: you just made a perfect example Sam Donald. 552 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Right, oh, man fu, that's a perfect example, right. 553 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 6: Like he's on the Nobody wanted Sam Donald. The Jets, 554 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 6: by the way, completely mismanage him. I'm a Jet fan, 555 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 6: so yeah, you know I witnessed this first game. Absolutely, 556 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 6: they give up on him. They trade him to Carolina, 557 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 6: write him off, Carolina doesn't want him. He goes to 558 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: the Niners. They don't want him. Then the man wins 559 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 6: fourteen games in Minnesota. 560 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota, Come on, man, you're supposed to do that over 561 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: But then, I mean, how many interceptions did that motherfucking 562 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: like damn? The six to seven that's like that was 563 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: like the worst game you can ever dream of the playoff. 564 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: It was like a nightmare va. 565 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah that was. And then this man wins a. 566 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl a year later. You feel me, So you. 567 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 4: Know it takes. 568 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 6: And by the way, even if you bought Sam Donald 569 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: a year ago, you twenty thirty extra money because now 570 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 6: he's a super Bowl champion now, Drake May even him. 571 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: You are. 572 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 6: Here, Drake May if you bought him in the off season. Yeah, 573 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 6: if you buy a player who gets to the championship. 574 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: So if you think you're a professional scout, buy those 575 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 6: guys cards, you're gonna make money. 576 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Like start, It's like stock starts. That's crazy. Is it 577 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a card that you always love him have never had 578 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: the chance to be able to obtain. Is there cards 579 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: out there that you or top I'm wanna say three, 580 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: but you got three cards that you got your eyes on. 581 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 6: You know what, I don't know if you're the same 582 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 6: way the same personality type keV. 583 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: But like I want every card. 584 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 6: I see, I want too much, So that has to 585 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 6: like you know, I gotta I gotta reset and go Okay, 586 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 6: you can't have it all. 587 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: So where does quality come in versus quantity? 588 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 4: For me? 589 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 6: What happens is like these cards, like I just looked 590 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: at them, and like, I don't want to sell these, 591 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: like even though I'm up, I'm like, I think. 592 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: They're gonna keep like Jerry low Key like Jeweler. 593 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I had to sell, you would definitely be 594 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: all in my neck, like what the fuck has he 595 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: got on this ship? 596 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: If I had just like saying, and by the way 597 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 6: they make, they make like diamond case, you could live. 598 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: I saw the kid, little kid yeah, yeah, yeah, he 599 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: had one of those ships. 600 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, and his going yeah, that was a Pokemon card. 601 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: The first time somebody put this around their neck and 602 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: make this you know what I'm saying. 603 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: And that was just a chain that the card was tendlling. 604 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, so they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, 605 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: we'll see. 606 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm just what I'm saying. My boy, kool Aid would 607 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: have solved a little bit of difference, you know what 608 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you know what I mean. So I 609 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: wanted you to check this out. My boy Andy came 610 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: through earlier. Andy Bursity is like one of the most 611 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: famous photographers of the league. It has been around forty 612 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: some years. He's damned this shot Wilt Chamberlain. God damn it, 613 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But Andy is the man. 614 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: We can send him the Jordan of photos man. He 615 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: brought me some crazy images. And actually I'm going through here. 616 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: And the one thing I want to say that when 617 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: you are creating a card, you want to create something 618 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: that I guess it's kind of its own thing. Yep, 619 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 1: Like what would you like when you go into how 620 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: you even go back on this ship? 621 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 6: So like I think it's about I appeal, right, So 622 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 6: if you go up a little. 623 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: Bit, did you do it? 624 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 625 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 6: So like the first two that stand out to me 626 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 6: are definitely this one and that one. 627 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: This is us talking shit to Mike. 628 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 6: So like in my mind to take this right, to 629 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 6: take this image right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take Jordan 630 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 6: out of it. I'm gonna take you out of it, 631 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: and then I'm gonna put art behind it. Right, And 632 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 6: that's how you're gonna make a card at it. That's 633 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 6: how you're gonna make a collectible out of it. And 634 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 6: then you have to serialize it, and you gotta go, Okay, 635 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: we're gonna make ten golds of this card. We're gonna 636 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 6: make fifty purples, and we're gonna make one hundred reds, right, 637 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 6: and then the rest are just overprinted and you know 638 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 6: when people open them, like you could hit the overprinted 639 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: card and it's not worth much. But if you hit 640 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 6: that goal, that's out of ten. Again, like I said, 641 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 6: like you're one of ten people who has it, you're 642 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: one of three people who has it. 643 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: So so all the low intangibles and the intricates they 644 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: mean something. 645 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: So like there's a reason this is out of twenty 646 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 6: three because it's Lebron facts, right, So like you might 647 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 6: even go, you know, my pictures with Jordan, I'm gonna 648 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 6: number to twenty three. 649 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: So if you got to twenty three of twenty three 650 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: and it just Lebron joint of this, this probably got 651 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: a crazy Okay, so I see what you're saying. So 652 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: all those little things that go in and either way, 653 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: this is nineteen, he got nineteen. 654 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 6: And by the way, twenty three out of twenty three. 655 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 6: They call that Jordan number, like that's more expensive than 656 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: nineteen out of twenty three because it's the twenty third 657 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: number of twenty three. So like these little details matter 658 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 6: to collective. 659 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: So the twenty wow. So so the twenty four of 660 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: a Kobe pat would make that card go to the moon. 661 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: Not even the one, the one in the twenty four 662 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: probably right. 663 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: I should have brought it. I have a Kobe card. 664 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 6: It's number eight eight out of twenty four. 665 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: So I got both numbers. 666 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: You got the one eighth to four. 667 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I should have brought it. I can't believe I 668 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: didn't bring down. 669 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: So right before this, that's cool cause it's two free throws. 670 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: On the first one, he was like, you know what 671 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: number you call? I was saying, man, I don't even 672 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: want to hear, matter of fact, the one you're talking 673 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: about Church. I'm in bean because I got a jersey on. 674 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: And he's leaning over like this, ay man, I'm like, man, 675 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this ship. Man, I called 676 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: you the whole fucking summer. You couldn't even call back down. 677 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: I know you saw me. I know you saw my number. 678 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I know your agent. Then and he was like no, no, no, 679 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: and we're it's a free throw, you know what I'm saying. 680 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: And we're in the real and we see that. Man, young, 681 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that ship go down. He 682 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: hey swap swap, so he swap swap. So we're doing 683 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: this referee ship and refereence like, hey, look both of 684 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: y'all pick a try to get over here. So the 685 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: obviously he gaged it. Both come over, Elsa. Now I 686 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: do not want to hear this ship. What number you called? 687 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: So we're in. So now went back and watched the film, 688 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: because you gotta watch fail. I see him and I arguing, 689 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: not argue, but we on the free throw line, looking 690 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: like some work arguing. Man then was a real one. Man, 691 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: he was. You know, it's specially because you know, throughout 692 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: this whole duration of high school players coming into the league. Man, 693 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: the high school players would come to you and ask 694 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: you and you and you know, Uh, his dad brought 695 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: him to Philly and I got to talk to him. 696 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: After Philly. We spent like two three hours flip let 697 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: us both sit right there and just chop and uh 698 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: we you know, we became friends right there and then 699 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: throughout his whole little process, we just talked, talked, talk, 700 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: And then he obviously got to the league. Our first 701 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: preseason game was against the Lakers and some ship the. 702 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: League made up, and uh he was a year after you, right. 703 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was ninety six. He had fucked his hand 704 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: up that broke his hand or something, and he was 705 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: out for a minute playing in Venice, fucking around and 706 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: we were just chopping. Each time I say him, it 707 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: was chop, chop, chop. And we got to he got 708 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: to a point where he was playing the All Star 709 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Game in New York. We were both voted in as starters, 710 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: and that was the first time I saw him nervous. 711 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: First time I saw him nervous, and I was like, look, 712 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: fuck these old niggas. We finna fuck these niggas up. 713 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: We listen, we get out here on Niokys for you 714 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: in me. He was like yeah. I was like, nah, 715 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: look if he if, if big fellas see you like this, 716 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: he gonna go at you. So we gonna get your 717 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: shit together. And I hit him in his chest. The 718 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: NBA got the camera right here, but I'm cursing, right okay, 719 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, nigga. I'm like, nah, nigga, come on, a nigga, 720 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: let's clow you out here. Nigga ain't man's whim shore gas. 721 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: So nigga wan dunk you know what I'm saying. But 722 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: we hit the ship. I said, listen, we get out here, 723 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: you get a first bucket. If you can dunk it, 724 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: it'll take the it'll take the vibs off. So man, 725 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about third play in If you look at me, 726 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: I damn near wall. I didn't put the ball down 727 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: because I thought Grant was go poking, but he had 728 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: man to me. And the first thing I thought, I 729 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: saw him running, and I saw how hard he was running. 730 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: I didn't even get the chance to put it down. 731 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: I looked down. I just and then when I threw it, 732 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: I had to split the rim. And how fast he was. 733 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: You gotta remember real time. He moving in real time. 734 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, and I said, oh shit, I 735 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: thought it. I think I threw it too high because 736 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: I thought he caught that two hen and just kept 737 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: on going boom. When he did that, I was say, yeah, 738 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: I told you a bit. Yeah, then let's go, nigga, 739 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: who we're doing? 740 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: There was George, Oh. 741 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Mike was blowing his head, getting any 742 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: ones on him and ship Now nah, that's why he 743 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: was I'm saying, but it come on, we got we're going. 744 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: So I kept it up beat. Bro we we knew 745 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: what the stage was and it was set up for 746 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: them to the dude. But that was probably one of 747 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: the more remember probably one of the more. Where were 748 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: you in that moments in the All Star Game? Bro? 749 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 6: What was when that that play where Iverson and Jordan 750 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 6: had that first like they were at the top of 751 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 6: the key. It was the first time, and Phil Jackson's like, Michael. 752 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: No, and then like, so, so Ai is a rookie. Yeah, 753 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: AI is killing Randy Brown and Ron Harper. He got 754 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: like thirty five and both of them. We're just going. 755 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: So fourth quarter they come up and they switched, and 756 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: you hear Phil say, Michael and he had to take 757 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the switch. He you know, usually that's a player called 758 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: it out, like hey, hey, hey man going you know 759 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We community right, Phil called it out, 760 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: so that means he really wanted it. And they said, yeah, 761 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: this kid quicker than you, because Mike quick as fuck, 762 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: this kid quicker than you. I ain't quicking of me, 763 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: all right, take the take, take to take the joint. 764 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: So then Lloyd got even here. And if you know 765 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: anything about the DC crossover, the DC crossover is high 766 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: and they shifted and they go over your hand, and 767 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: it used to be they go over your hand. Uh, 768 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: it's it's I'm going blank on a couple of kids 769 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: that I uh God damn, I'm going blank on the 770 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: kids that I know, the the Tyreek turners to Luther Head, 771 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: like all these guys that used to have the wigger, right, 772 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: but they was DC guys, Virginia boys. Ifferson took it 773 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: and he used to take it under your hand and 774 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: that changed the game. And then he would have it spinning. 775 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: And then if you didn't honor this, he would keep 776 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: going right. And then when you did honor, here was 777 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: just and he had a way that he can yank 778 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: your ass. And Lord, when he yank Mike the first time, 779 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: we were like, oh ship hold On remixed that when 780 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: he read the read? No, the read Now you don't remix, God, 781 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't do that. That's that's that's like 782 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: the cardinal sin of embarrassment. What hold On? Oh he 783 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: read no, no No? 784 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 6: Was that a whole nother Listen, another level of respect 785 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 6: for AI when he did that, Like, was the whole 786 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 6: league like holy? 787 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: So you gotta think about the wild Grimlins, right, That's 788 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: how we I call everybody from ninety five on in 789 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: all wild grimlins because none of us want to wear suits. 790 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: Who used to you know, no school? Right? 791 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 3: Share? 792 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: Well, he merely wold Mike. We're all like, oh, you 793 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: can do that, you can get that off on him? 794 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: Did he? Oh he remixed it? No, that was like 795 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: a no, no, you remixed the god. Oh no. Yeah, 796 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: that's when David standing on all the tatoos on the 797 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: streets loved me. But he gave itbody. Oh ship, that's 798 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: what ayall got there? Yeah, fucking me right. You know 799 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, suits to go and sleeve to God. Like, 800 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He was made, he got made 801 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: right there. I just I just I just done a 802 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: boss right here. I just done a boss. Done the 803 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: boss in from everybody. 804 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 4: Because Kobe spoke so highly of him too. 805 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: And I'm the shortest guy out here. What easy he was? 806 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 6: Like if AI was my height, it would have been 807 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 6: a problem. 808 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all probably you know a y'all has a football heart. 809 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: You know that, right, y'all play y'all played football first. 810 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: His first love is football. 811 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 812 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: So he's toughest nails. And he's always been the smaller guy, 813 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the shorter guy. So you know, you've been around some 814 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: short guys. They always had the biggest fight. They're always 815 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: the biggest swag. Though. You know what I'm saying, So 816 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: he was no different Chuck man, thinking about Chuck when 817 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: you hit Chuck finding stapping to get back up, come 818 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: and to give him up for I don't worry about it. 819 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: That's all y'all can do is hit y'all. You know 820 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I've been hit hard on that. Y'all know I play 821 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: quarterback in safety. Y'all don't know you, But but yall, 822 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: you get to get on that Chuck shit. You know 823 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Chuck, Hell yeah, yeah, Huck, go shoot 824 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: that shit. What I really do, consider you innovative in 825 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: this space to where you've taken the dads and the 826 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: suns and got them to actually get together. Normally, your 827 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: dad's going over here talking shit, the Sun's going in 828 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. You've innovated this industry to where you've 829 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: got a big old conversation. And what I like to 830 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: say is grow the pot. Sure, terminology, you should come 831 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: up with a terminology when something is of someone's number, 832 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: in that player's favor and call it something because you can. 833 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: You can do that. You got to flow for that. 834 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 835 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: If finally, note, I would have thought you was like 836 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: the third or fourth Memen and the Beastie Boys. You 837 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You come on with a you 838 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: come on with a Mike check, you come up with 839 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of you know what I'm saying. You know 840 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: what I'm trying. 841 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 4: Mom. 842 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 6: It's funny you say that because when I was first 843 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 6: like in the bedroom building a business, like, I was 844 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 6: on camera alive every night, right, So I don't know 845 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: if it was like a Russell Wilson thing or the Seahawks, 846 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 6: but they had that whole like let Russ cook thing, 847 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 6: so I like kind of bit off of that. Yeah, 848 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 6: And it was just like I'd be pulling a card 849 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 6: open and I'd kind of cheat and I'd see there's 850 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 6: a good card coming out right before the chat saw 851 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 6: and I'd be like, guys, when you're sitting at home 852 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 6: and you're hungry in the kitchen, all you gotta do 853 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 6: is lead dabs cook. And then I'd rip the card open, 854 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 6: right and like that, and then the whole chow would 855 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 6: be like, let dabs cook, right. So like I fed 856 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 6: into all of those Hold up, hold up? Can I 857 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 6: know it's funny? Check this out? 858 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, Kamela. 859 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 6: This by the way, this by the way, We had 860 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 6: this made for you. There is no other colorway. This 861 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 6: is the Celtics pack DAP's hoodie. All right, you heard 862 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 6: nobody has this color except for Shore. You gotta hope 863 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 6: three XL works the work. 864 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: What you mean, right, I asked to put up my 865 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: old uniform and it works, you understand, right, T will 866 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: fight right. This is fly bro. Thank you brother, thank 867 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: you for coming through. Man. Yeah, we're gonna have to 868 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 1: do something in summer league. Man, we got an album 869 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: and everybody here. We want to actually do like a 870 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: something many with with with a partnership with you and death. 871 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: So we come in do a big old collectible thing. 872 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 1: Then the summer league. Man, we're doing the film festival 873 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: doing we want to do a collectible type of thing. 874 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 6: The way I see it is like the same way 875 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 6: I used to be on the live stream. 876 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 4: We just do it for the event, you know what 877 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean. We can throw something in the crowd. 878 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: Word, well, this is album. He runs some league we 879 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: want to talk to. Okay, we're gonna do something, man, 880 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna figure this out. Check this out. 881 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 7: So the floor this is you talk about collectibles, right, 882 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 7: So this is a collectible desk. 883 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: This is the All Star Game. 884 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 7: Right right there. Check that ship out, sick. That's this, 885 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 7: that's his take. Oh ship in my office, Los Angeles. 886 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 7: I got doors that opened our studio with those panels. 887 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: But that's what we're doing to some collectible stuff. 888 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 6: And you could you could take this stuff and put 889 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 6: it in cards too. Oh yeah, for sure, you could 890 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 6: take a piece of your jersey and a piece of do. 891 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 3: All, you gotta get one of these for KG certified. 892 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let's let's get it. Let's get it. 893 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 1: Let's get it. You see what we're doing. You see 894 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: what we doing. You see what we doing. Y'all know 895 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: what time it is. God damn KG certify. My dog 896 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: DAPs in here, man. Let's get it, man,