1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot Com. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: of the end zone for the touchdown. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Pacificoffice dot com. Problem solved Garrison dies for the en zone, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: that was nasty right there. Rights slam the ground by 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: fooda baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody. 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: You know what I realized about the July fourth week 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: is there are a lot of really dominant quotes about freedom. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: I was trying to find just the right quote for 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: the two of you, Danny Surrec Darren Urban Polly podcast 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: over here to commemorate the week, and I landed at 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: this one. You guys ready for a quote? I know 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: you're ready. That's rhetorical freedom lies in being bold. I 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: have to keep them short because I know your attention 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: span around here. On Cardinals Underground, brought you by Pacific 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: Office Automation, I think I chose that one. It's Robert Frost. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: By the way, Danny, I know you knew that, but 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: Darren was looking a little perplexed. 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: I better be honest, Paul, You've been doing a lot 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: of reading and research on these these all time quotes. 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm impressed, and I asked myself, why did you choose 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: that one? I think just because this time of year, 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: with a big heat, I'll take anything with the word 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: frost and oh, you know, frostbite, defrost. You know, frosting 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: is the air conditioning out in here. Frosted tips, I'll 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: take anything with the word frost in at this time 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: of year. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: I don't see any frosted tips. 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Though, Darren, nobody authorized more coffee for you. That's never good. Please, Okay, 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: because we did have that one episode last month where 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: Darren had way too much coffee. We had to take 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: his car keys. Put it that way. So freedom is 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: the theme. Freedom is what this week is all about. 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: And how are we tying this into the Arizona Cardinals 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Again, once again, I think you're going 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: to have to dumb it down for yours. Truly. 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: I think we're going to look at this, Paul and say, 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: what are we hoping the Cardinals have some freedoms to 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: do this this season to be a successful team. 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Because did you know that they you 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: know another one They like to say, the secret to 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: happiness is freedom. So if Nick rolis defensive coordinator, has 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: the freedom to rush only four yes, we said four 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: and drop seven? Is that sort of Is that the 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: freedom we're talking about if you're a decordinator? 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: Sounded like the freedom that Josh Sweat was talking about 56 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: when he spoke with the media recently. Yes, someone had 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 5: asked about his time in Philly, which were statistically two 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: of his best career seasons when he was with the 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 5: Eagles with Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rowlis, and Swet was saying, 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: it's early. He didn't show up for voluntary OTAs, was 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 5: here for mandatory mini camp, so he only has three 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 5: practices under his belt in a Cardinal's practice jersey. But 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 5: he feels like he's going to have similar freedom in 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: this defense. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember last year. I 66 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: think it was last year. It might have been two 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: years ago now with Gannon And at one point he 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: was describing how he likes to teach the defense, and 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: it was a very you can what was though, you 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: can color anywhere you want as long as you stay 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: inside the lines or something like along those lines, like 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: he's going to set up his box and then you 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: could you can draw whatever you want as long as 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: you remain within the box. 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: So you can do some different things. 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: If you're an individual player in terms of technique and stuff, 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: as long as you're executing a scheme. And that's what 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: I think of the freedom. And it's funny you bring 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: up the four rushers because it's like, I feel like 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: that's a double freedom. Like at one we're talking about 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: the freedom of these rushers to get to the passer, 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: like Josh Sweat was talking about, like the freedom to 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: be able to do a little stuff that he wants 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: to do within the framework, but also the freedom of 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: you've built up this defense so much that you can 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: get to the quarterback with just four of these guys, 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: and you have the freedom to not have the blitz 88 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: and not have to use so many defenders and all 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: of a sudden, what is that? What kind of box 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: does that open up for Nick Rolis in terms of 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: attacking teams? 92 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Because remember when Josh Sweat, upon signing with the Cardinals, 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: was asked about his Super Bowl performance where he easily 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: could have been named Super Bowl MVP with his two 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: and a half sacks and two TFLs and he was 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: just a game wrecker and a real headache all game long. 97 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: And they said, well, what was the difference in that game? 98 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: What was the key? Was it just Super Bowl and 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: you're amped up? And he said, Big Fangio came in 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: with a game plan against Patrick Mahomes and said attack. 101 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: And he said that is what Jonathan Gannon essentially tasked 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: me with, especially my second year in the system when 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: he had a career high eleven sacks. Just get after it, 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: go forward, be aggressive. So if that indeed is the 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: way in which they are going to use Josh Sweat 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: in this scheme, I just I have a feeling we're 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: gonna have like a hashtag. If he has like a 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: bunch of sacks to start the year, the hashtag is 109 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: going to start trending free Sweat. That'll be the hashtag 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: Josh Sweat because if they do set them free in 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: this thing, all of a sudden, you go from like, 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: what was it fifteen guys last year who had two 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: sacks or more? What if you had one guy with 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: fifteen sacks? 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: That's the goal. Whatever Sweat was best at throughout his career, 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 5: You're not going to bring in a free agent and 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: ask them to do something completely different. You might ask 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 5: them to change a few things. Mack Wilson Senior is 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: a great example of that. Is somebody to have a 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 5: lot of opportunities do and didn't do as much in 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 5: New England as he is doing in his tasked with 122 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 5: here with the Cardinals. If Sweat is real good at 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: AB and C in his game, you're going to bring 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: him here to bring AB and C to your game 125 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: and a position room that has been desperate for a 126 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 5: little more power, for a little more threat coming off 127 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 5: that defense. So whatever was working with Sweat to have 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: that freedom to come here, and the fact that he 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 5: can already sense that he's going to have similar freedom, 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 5: that sounds like a very realistic possibility to go from 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 5: having fifteen players on this defense with two sacks, having 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: one player with fifteen. The freedom that Sweat is going 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: to have and what that is going to allow him 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: to do is different than everyone else in that room. 135 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: Everybody else has a different skill set. The freedom that 136 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: Sweat is going to play with and what that's going 137 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: to allow him to do is going to look different 138 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: than what Baron Browning is going to be able to do, 139 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 5: or Zaven Collins or b j o Jhalari. That doesn't 140 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: make it bad. But you bring in Sweat for a reason. 141 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 5: So if there's one player or you just want to 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: tell him go out there and let it rip, it's him. 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, Paul. 144 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: You just got through getting us through the first part 145 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: of this by talking about Frost making me feel a 146 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: little bit better, and now we keep talking about Sweat. 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: I mean that just does not. 148 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Work for me. 149 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: It's true, as I sweat under these lights. 150 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know we're Eco Opportunity Podcasts. We cover everything 151 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: and anything in between. As you know, Darren John F. 152 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Kennedy once said conformity is the jailer of freedom and 153 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: the enemy of growth. So once again, how does this 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: defense grow? Well, that freedom is brought in the form 155 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: of maybe rushing for or in someone who has that 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: much versatility. What do we call it? Last year eleven 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: card pickup we to. 158 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: Darren's point, but I think that was correct. 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it was the Royal We. To Darren's point. You know, 160 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: you have the lines in the coloring book, just stay 161 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: within the lines being colored any way you want. So 162 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: they keep stockpiling these guys who were really versatile. Last 163 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: year it was Xaving Collins and in company Malson mac Wilson. 164 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Now you're adding a joy and Birch, who has played 165 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: inside and out did so for Oregon. Josh Sweat at 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: two sixty five six' five could easily be sucked inside 167 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: and has been at different times to. Hers robinson was 168 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: talking this mini camp about how he's played anywhere from 169 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: the nose all the way out to the five and 170 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: even the seven technique way. Outside Walter nolan has that. 171 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: Versatility so all of a, sudden you're Giving Nick rolis 172 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: even more guys who can be anywhere at any. Time 173 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Remember Matthew stafford the end of last year getting ready 174 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: for The cardinals game week, seventeen and he was talking, About, 175 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: yeah they have some really almost borderline unsound defensive schemes 176 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: and makes it really, difficult even as a fifteen year 177 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: veteran Like Matthew stafford to figure, Out, okay who's coming 178 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: when from? Where and it just seems like The cardinals 179 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: even more equipped to do that this. 180 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: Year, well you've. 181 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Got all of those things plus AND i know we. 182 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: Have we've talked about a bunch of new, players so 183 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to learn some. Things but you're talking 184 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: About rallis with his third year in the. System and 185 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: it's funny now that you bring it, Up LIKE i kept, 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: wondering and we've talked about, this BUT i kept wondering 187 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: as they collected, players would it be less of that 188 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: we talked about that last year with the outside linebacker. Rotation, 189 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: hey if they got a guy Like Chandler jones or 190 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: now that they actually have A Josh, sweat do you 191 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: rotate a little less because you're paying them all the? 192 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: Money which still might. 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: Happen, however To paul's, point Maybe i'm. Wrong maybe this 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: just increases the chance of eleven player pickup and doing 195 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: even more crazy. 196 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: STUFF i, Mean i'm really. Intrigued week one At New. 197 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: ORLEANS i, MEAN. 198 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: I feel bad for whoever that. QUARTERBACK i was going. 199 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: To, say the football gods are going to really have to, 200 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: help you, Know Spencer, Rattler Tyler, shooke whoever it, is 201 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: whoever it, is it's going to be a, young inexperienced. Quarterback. 202 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: There you talk about seeing ghosts the Old Sam darnold 203 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: from years ago in The. Jets is he never going 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: to live that? 205 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 4: Down? 206 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Paul, never especially week Four thursday night football When seattle 207 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: comes to. Town we've already got mark. Down pace. Yourself so, 208 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: okay there's one freedom if You're Nick. Rows and by the, 209 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: way just as a quick, coda if you, will punctuation on. 210 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: That you, know the first Thing drew stand said about 211 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: rushing four is even more important than that is stopping 212 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: the run with. Four so if you can stop the 213 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: run with, four then now you're really. Cooking so all, 214 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: right especially on a barbecue week Like july, fourth talk 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: more heat cooking. 216 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: OUTDOORS i thought he was talking about stopping the. 217 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: Run we're now talking About Kyler murray running the. Ball 218 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: there were a few big themes of the off season 219 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: through OTAs and mandatory mini. Camp kyler running the ball. 220 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: More whose freedom would that? Be if he did, it. 221 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: That's the, Question, Darren and that's exactly WHERE i was 222 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: going at design runs or the freedom Of kyler to 223 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: just be more aggressive in the moment as he deems. Necessary, Denny. 224 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: It's hard to me this is too. Early it's a 225 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 5: very intriguing topic given the quarterback's skill set with his 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: legs that not many other quarterbacks in this league. Have 227 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: the last couple of, years though it's been clear that's 228 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: not going to be something that this offense is going 229 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: to rely on With murray more design runs. POSSIBLY i 230 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: don't think it's going to be enough to where it's 231 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: something we're gonna be talking about every week of an 232 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: insane jump and seeing, that because that isn't what we have, 233 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 5: seen and last Year murray even talked about that before 234 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: the season. Began if he doesn't want to go out 235 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: there and be the, superhero if the play breaks down 236 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: or whatever it might be and he needs to rely 237 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 5: on his, legs he's. Fine he doesn't want that to 238 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 5: be a focal point of this focal point of this. 239 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: Offense i'm hesitant to sit here and SAY i absolutely 240 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: think we're going to see an increase in design runs 241 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: when it's not something we have seen in the last 242 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: couple of years, now the freedom to scramble and more 243 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: off script. Plays, sure that's something that the quarterback was 244 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: talking about where working on with the offense throughout this 245 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 5: off season is trying to replicate the best that you 246 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 5: can certain plays in a game so that if something breaks, 247 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: down nobody feels, unprepared whether that Is, murray that's the 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: offensive line and how long they need a, block or 249 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 5: the routes that need to be run by the. Receivers 250 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: so seems like they are working to make sure everybody 251 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: is on pace to be on the same page for 252 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 5: those off script. Plays i'm hesitant to sit here and 253 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 5: say that we are going to see a jump in 254 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: design runs for the quarterback when it's just it's not 255 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: something that we've seen and it doesn't really feel like 256 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: something he wants to. 257 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: Do because when we say design, runs you know WHAT 258 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: i think of immediately Is week five last, Year cardinals 259 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: second play from scrimmage and offense and what happened at 260 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers in one hundred eleven degree. Heat what? 261 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Happened he Gone kyler around the right, end found the, 262 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: seam a couple of nice seal blocks from the two tight. 263 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: Ends just ask. Him they'll tell You trey McBride And 264 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: Tip rimean how they sealed. It there's the, Lane kyler 265 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: finger up in the air and gone fifty. Yards, now 266 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: we didn't see a lot of that the rest of the. 267 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Year is that because defense is adjusted and there were 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: a lot more. Spies do you think, maybe just maybe 269 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: The cardinals thought back on twenty twenty four and, said, 270 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: hmm you, know that's a real game. Changer not many 271 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league and count on one, hand are 272 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: capable of doing. That maybe we should feature that a 273 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: little bit. 274 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: More i'm curious to. 275 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: KNOW i feel like on the other side of that, 276 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: coin when they talk about When Drew petsing was talking 277 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: about being And Kyler murray did the same thing when 278 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: they're talking about hitting on more. 279 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: Off schedule stuff, like it. 280 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: Was funny How Drew petsing described it as like one 281 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: year like working within the premeters of the, offense which 282 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: is what you're talking, about, yep and then one being 283 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: like a basketball point guard and getting it to the 284 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: right people when it's almost got fast, break and it's 285 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: just it's a fascinating, thought and THEN i go back 286 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: to What danny's talking, about which is and even to 287 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: the theme of the freedom. Stuff Does kyler want the 288 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: freedom to run that? Much does he like the idea 289 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: of not doing it a lot because he prefer not 290 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: to be in harm's Way and obviously when he's running the, 291 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: ball you're in harm's. 292 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 4: Way you just are as a. 293 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Quarterback it's interesting because When danny brings up, That kyler 294 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: talks about not wanting to be a, hero WHICH i get, 295 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: it and he said, it and it's probably a good thought, 296 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: PROCESS i think to. Myself and they are different, players 297 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: don't get me, Wrong but like Is Lamar jackson being 298 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: a hero when he runs as much as he does 299 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: and a lot of his stuff is off, schedule like 300 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: he does run design, runs but there's lots of times 301 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: when he's running just. Scrambling, Sure AND i don't see 302 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: that as being a. HERO i see that As, hey 303 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: your best player is really good at, That let's do 304 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: more of. 305 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: That and that's my. Point, Yeah and so If kyler 306 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: and this team are in a make or break, year 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: then go for, BROKE i, guess is What i'm. Saying 308 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: and does that Include kyler or As Jean paul sart once, 309 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: said famous philosopher freedom is what we do with what 310 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: has done to. Us not sure totally understand, that but 311 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: in a football, CONTEXT i think that's way above my. 312 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: Head football. Context you know, what if they're bringing, numbers, 313 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: okay hold them, honest if they're going to bring the, 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: blitz or they get a media penetration and all of 315 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: a sudden they're in the. Backfield What Drew stanton, says 316 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: quarterbacks like to call The Santa claus, effect when you 317 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: get a pass rusher right in your, lap then all 318 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: of a, sudden all of a, sudden, boom you react 319 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: instead of throwing the ball away or throwing the ball 320 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: at someone's feet or what have you checked? Down, no 321 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: maybe you're more inclined to tuck it and run. IT 322 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: i guess that's my question about this coming. Season are 323 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: we going to be more apt. 324 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: To see that these are fair questions and it's not 325 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: something that is unrealistic For murray's skillset and this offense 326 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: an offense that likes to run the. Ball and in 327 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: the last two years we've seen a little more not 328 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: trickery disguise and changing things up in the. OFFENSE i 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: mean Even murray being in or under center more like 330 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: that was a, change, Right that was a big focal 331 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 5: point in twenty twenty. Four it's possible design runs are 332 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: going to be a focal point in twenty twenty. Five 333 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: it's just it's it's hard to commit to that when 334 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: it is not something that we have, seen not only 335 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: from this coaching, staff but From murray himself and his time. 336 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: HERE i keep thinking back to the idea that every 337 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: time on a national, level and FOR, nfl every game 338 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: is a national game because you've got people coming from the. 339 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: Eye the storyline is always AND i don't know if 340 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: it's lazy at this point or if it's because what 341 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: they think. About the storyline is always about What kyler 342 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: could hurt the defense with the. Legs, now going back 343 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: to your point of whether defenses are spying him, more 344 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: and maybe that's. True but if defenses are spying and, 345 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: more that should be giving you an advantage in another, way, 346 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: yep and you need to exploit. That and if they're, 347 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: not THEN i agree with a lot of these, things 348 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: like there's a reason why people the defenses are scared 349 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 3: Of Kyler, murray so you gotta scare. 350 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Them there are definitely, games especially in the second half 351 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: of last, year where the spy was in the game. 352 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Plan on third, down third and passing, downs the spy 353 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: was definitely. In and there were a couple of times Where, 354 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: KYLER i, think started to move out of the pocket 355 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: and he could tell there was a linebacker going with, 356 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: him or there was a safety going with. Him he 357 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: could see, Peripherally, okay there's a spy on. Me NOW 358 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: i gotta go to the air because you know it's 359 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: gonna be too risky to make a run for the 360 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: sticks on third and gotta have. It or maybe if 361 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about running the ball, more and this is 362 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: off the top of my, head IF i would have 363 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: had some, FORESIGHT i would have checked the. Analytics Although 364 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: i'm not exactly sure where to go for two back. 365 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Sets last, year When Trey benson And James conner were both, 366 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: healthy how often did The cardinals run two back. 367 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: Sets we'll Get Zach gershman on, that and sometime in 368 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: the near future we'll revisit. 369 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: This and this is sparked by last Month Trey benson 370 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: meeting the media during mandatory mini camp and, saying you 371 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: know what my goal is the young guy right behind 372 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: the established pro Bowler James, connor thousand yard Rusher James 373 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: connor is to push him and this offense to have 374 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: TWO rb. Ones do you think maybe that's how this 375 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: run game. Evolves maybe all of a, sudden It's kyler 376 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: and behind him are split Backs Trey benson And James. 377 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: CONNOR i, KNOW i know what the Combine Jonathan gannon brought, 378 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: Up Trey benson being a SECOND rb. One so it's 379 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: it's in the air, now how that's, Deployed how that manifests. 380 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: Itself we'll off to see right the. 381 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: WAY i got to give big props to, You, paully 382 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: the the the preparation to have all these quotes in. 383 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: Line i'm that's that's a big. 384 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 5: Plus these all sound like posters elementary school. 385 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Classrooms UNFORTUNATELY i don't have the author on a lot of. 386 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: These here's a popular, one there was no author. Attached 387 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: freedom is the oxygen of the. Soul how about that? 388 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: ONE i like that. 389 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: One let's see what CAN i attach that? Too is 390 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: a nice segue, Here let's see how about how about 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: the deep passing? Game how about a how about a 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: chunk passing? Game? Oxygen BECAUSE i ripped this stat off 393 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: From Craig. Grilu cardinals were top five last year in 394 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: chunk run, plays bottom third in THE, nfl and chunk passing. 395 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: Plays chunk being on the ground. Explosives but just so 396 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: people know that the distance what is considered a chunk. 397 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 5: Play it's twenty in the, air ten on the. Ground, yes, 398 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: exactly just So peopbard and we're not making this up 399 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: of the, stats but that's how it. Is ten on the, 400 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: ground twenty in the. 401 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Air it's a real. Stat the coaches definitely track, it 402 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: AND i think we all agree the eyeball test or 403 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: the Analytics cardinals there's room to grow when it comes 404 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: to the deep passing. Game so does that come WITH i, 405 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 2: MEAN i guess it's theoretically it's all the. Above if 406 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: you improve the run, game then you're maybe getting an 407 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: extra safety into the. Box you're getting them out of 408 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: the two high safeties in the shell coverage that everyone 409 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: loves to. Run see this. 410 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: QUESTION i have the freedom to ask this, QUESTION i 411 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: to both of. You, really so the pass play is 412 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: twenty yards right for an? Explosive are you okay if 413 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: fifty percent of their explosive pass plays are ten yard 414 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: passes that get yards after the catch rather than up 415 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: over the. 416 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: Top, Personally i'm more than fine with. It if It's 417 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: James connor And trey McBride not going down in first. 418 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: Contact what if It's Marvin harrison And Michael wilson not 419 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: going on down on first. 420 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: Contract, SURE i mean whatever. 421 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 5: It, is coloring within the. Lines however you get FROM 422 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 5: a TO. B i don't really care as long as 423 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: you get. 424 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: There What greg dors say this offseason About Marvin Harrison 425 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: junior and the gains the muscle, Mass he's, like, yeah 426 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: good luck with. That he was talking ABOUT. Dbs so 427 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: if all of a Sudden Marvin Harrison junior Is trey 428 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: McBride to a certain, degree the whole get off me, 429 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: right and And Sauce gardner goes for a ride and 430 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: you're turning it upfield and getting a key first. 431 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: Down Larry, Fitzgerald larry fit after a couple of, years. 432 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: You, See, Darren now you don't want to spark the mailbag, Over, Okay. 433 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 4: Larry, Fitzgerald you'll run after the catch type. 434 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: Stuff there you. 435 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: Go, Yes Todd, haley where are? YOU i know you're 436 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: a big fan Of Paul. 437 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: Calvicia and the point you're making is that three years 438 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: into his, Career larry grew immensely in that category run 439 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: after catch. 440 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: Because our, Guy Todd haley And Ken Wison hunt made 441 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: sure that they they Made larry understand that what he 442 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: was doing big. 443 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: Dog the line, was you're a big, dog not not 444 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: a little. Dog so run through the. Secondary there's with. 445 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Impunity there was no beeps in your. Statement probably, incorrect that's, 446 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: Right so, Okay but if this year is anything last, 447 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: Year Marvin Arrison junior is going to get their top 448 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: cornerback every single game and you'll probably get some bracket 449 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: coverage over the. Top keep passing. Downs so to, me 450 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: And i've said this, Repeatedly i've said this ad nauseum to, 451 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: me it's about wide receiver. Too we know About trey, 452 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: McBride you know About marvin. HERE i think he will 453 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: be better this, year but there better be somebody else 454 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: who steps up and has to be a reliable target 455 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: on third down in particular and then hopefully. Downfield whether It's, 456 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: Dorch Michael, Wilson Zay, jones they're all capable of. IT i, Mean, 457 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 2: dan what's your confidence level one of those guys actually 458 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: checks that. 459 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: Box i'm gonna continue with it is too early to, 460 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 5: see and then that is a fair statement to make 461 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: given what we didn't see last year in that and 462 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: not even just third, down but a true wide. Receiver. 463 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: Two this Is Michael wilson's job for the, taking like 464 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 5: it is his job to lose as having that title 465 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: of wide. Receiver. Two you just need more, consistency also From, 466 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: harrison but you need more consistency from the receiver's opposite 467 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 5: of him to be a, threat and not just in 468 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: the blocking, game but to be a threat For murray to. 469 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: FIND i also think there's a very big chance if 470 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: you're looking for your big third down, RECEIVER i think 471 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: he's already on the. TEAM i think it is eighty. 472 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 5: FIVE i think it is. McBride he has shown that 473 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: he is, Consistent he has very sticky, Hands he's very 474 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 5: good in that. Aspect he is tough to bring down 475 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: five hundred and thirteen yards after catch last, year which 476 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 5: is almost as many As Michael wilson had total at 477 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 5: five hundred and forty eight receiving. Yards SO i agree with, 478 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 5: you you need a third down receiver in an ideal. World, 479 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: yes that might be a wide receiver out wide and 480 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: The cardinals can still need. THAT i think there's a 481 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 5: very good chance the third down receiver you're looking for 482 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: is already on this. 483 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: Team what do you, Think. Darren you've seen a lot 484 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: of receivers come and. Go you've seen a lot of 485 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: receivers get a lot of. Hype you've seen a lot 486 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: of receivers get a lot of buy, in and then you, 487 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: know doesn't quite. Materialize where are you on this collection 488 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: of wide receivers Behind Marvin Harrison? 489 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: Junior because of the trade McBride. FACTOR i am okay with. 490 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: IT i believe that this group can do what it's 491 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: going to be asked to. DO i Believe Michael wilson 492 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: will take another step, forward just LIKE i Think Marvin 493 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: harrison is going. TO i Think Michael wilson is disappointed 494 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: in himself that he didn't. 495 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 4: Take a greater step forward last. 496 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: YEAR i think there's a lot of things involved, there 497 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: and some things that are Beyond Michael wilson's. Control BUT 498 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: i do think that they have a chance to be. 499 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: Good AND i will say, THIS i don't think this 500 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: is again my. SPECULATION i do not think that if 501 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: there had been significant concern From, Manti Austin fort And 502 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: Jonathan gannon about this receiver room that it would have 503 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: been as, untouched relatively untouched as it. 504 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: Is you're, RIGHT i, mean believe your eyes believe the 505 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: decisions then were not. Made and sometimes some of the 506 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: biggest and best decisions by general managers and every sport 507 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: are the ones that are not. 508 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 5: MADE i was just, Saying i'm just generally curious what 509 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: major free agent receivers were signed that would have fit. 510 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Here. 511 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: Right we talked a lot About Amari cooper is an older, 512 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: receiver somebody who doesn't really. Block So I'm i'm in 513 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: a camp R i. DISAGREE i guess is the Point 514 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 5: i'm trying to make. 515 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: Anything because there was NOBODY i. 516 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 5: THINK i think there were a couple of. FACTORS i think, 517 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 5: one there is belief there and you can see that 518 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: in the consistency across the offense as a whole throughout 519 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 5: the off season and the lack of acquisitions that were, 520 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: made and that was a focal point last year and 521 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: even the year, prior in some of the cuts that 522 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: were being made during the. Season there is belief. There 523 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: you can still use more AND i think it's a 524 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 5: combination of you really needed to focus on the, defense 525 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: and that is where a lot of your money. Went 526 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 5: and then you're looking at who is, available what free 527 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: agents are out, there and not only money, wise but 528 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 5: but what free agents fit with what they look for 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: in their, receivers which is somebody who can. Block and 530 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: when you're coming in and you already know you're gonna 531 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 5: be Behind harrison and you're gonna be Behind, trey who 532 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: makes sense? Financially is my question of when we talk, About, 533 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 5: okay they didn't bring in a wide receiver in the off, 534 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: Season yes that's. True, yes that means that they believe 535 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: they already have a true number two. RECEIVER i also 536 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 5: think who are the? 537 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: OPTIONS i don't necessarily disagree with, you BUT i JUST 538 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: i feel LIKE i THINK i feel like in some, 539 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: ways you're arguing the same thing in my, opinion because 540 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: if you're weighing it and you're saying there's nobody out 541 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: there who's better Than Michael, wilson. 542 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 5: Yes i'm also saying that more so that fits the. 543 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: System, okay but that doesn't, Matter LIKE i guess my 544 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: point is is it's like What moni was talking to 545 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: me about during the owner's meetings WHEN i Asked hi 546 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: about a speed receiver and he's, like, well that's just 547 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: one thing that we're looking. At, LIKE i understand what you, 548 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: saying and there might be a receiver out. There let's 549 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: say A Marik cooper just for a, Name Amari cooper 550 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: is a better pass catcher Than Michael, wilson but because 551 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: he doesn't do these other, things he doesn't fit the 552 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: system as. Well, well all they're running is their. System 553 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: so under that, Pretext Amari cooper is not better Than 554 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: Michael wilson. 555 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: Because you have to fit the. System that's HOW i 556 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: look at. 557 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 2: IT i Think danny's point AND i agree with. This for, 558 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: example If Hollywood brown would have been, available speed, guy 559 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: someone you have knowledge of who actually is a grinder 560 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: behind the, scenes really good locker room, DUDE i Mean 561 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: besti's With, kyler good. Chemistry like If Hollywood brown would 562 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: have been, available let's just, say and the price was 563 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: right and still has a speed to you, know stretch a, 564 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: defense et. CETERA i could have seen that. Acquisition but you're, 565 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: right as your number, two, yes well it took battle 566 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: for the number two just added to the. Room and 567 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: as opposed to not adding a single receiver to the 568 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: room other than What Ques. WATKINS i, JUST i. DON'T i, 569 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: JUST i, mean think of all the mock trap said 570 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: The cardinals going. 571 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: RECEIVER i get it so, well you could, look you 572 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: could Always i'm not going to sit here and say 573 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: they have the best receiver room in the. 574 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: World but it's probably a combination of. BOTH a there 575 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: wasn't a great fit at the right price out, there 576 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: but then be feeling, like you know, what there's STILL 577 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: roi to be had in the back end of our 578 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: receiver room return on. Investment there's still a lot under 579 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: the hood there that we didn't maximize in twenty twenty, Four. 580 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 5: So Say jones might be an answer to that question as. 581 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: Well did not get a lot of opportunity to see 582 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 5: and play last. 583 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: Year here's a Quote i'm going to protest just BECAUSE 584 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: i couldn't stand actually taking a whole semester of this 585 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: your own, Quote paul of this man's work in. College 586 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: thought is, free Said Bill shakespeare In The, tempest just 587 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: to let you, know thought is. Free thought is. Free 588 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: so how about if you're looking at the secondary And 589 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: i'm not the one to say, This Garrett williams said. 590 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: This Jalen thompson said, this DB's this year will have 591 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: more freedom to and go after passes because you know 592 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: what your pass, rush at least on paper so, far 593 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: looks like it's going to affect the quarterback a. Lot 594 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: so you're either going to get sacks or if you 595 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: affect the, quarterback you hopefully get. TURNOVERS i love. 596 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 5: It that's the, goal that's the marriage you want between the. 597 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 5: Two that's something that Safety Buddha baker has talked about 598 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: of interceptions have not been high year after year for 599 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 5: him because he feels like quarterbacks are looking for him 600 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: and throwing opposite of him on the. Field so even 601 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 5: if it's Not, baker if you can get you can 602 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: get some more, turnovers and you can rely on that 603 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 5: pass rush and force the quarterback to get rid of 604 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: the ball a little, faster everybody. Wins, again it's getting 605 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: from POINT a to POINT b right Of, okay you 606 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 5: obviously want to stop the, offense don't want them to 607 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 5: move to. Chains but if you can also force a, 608 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 5: turnover whether that is on, downs an, interception whatever that might, 609 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 5: be takes it to another. 610 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Level and again circling back to where we were at 611 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: the beginning of. This if you're rushing for it's a 612 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: lot easier to have guys ball hawking when you've got 613 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: seven guys screw uh doing all the stuff covering in 614 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: the in the. 615 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 2: Back, end, facts no. 616 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 5: Doubt you just use facts and besties in like a 617 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: four minute about that. 618 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: Span not that you're keeping score or anything. 619 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: Here. 620 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 5: Right if IF i had a, LAMP i would turn it 621 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: on for. 622 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 4: You he's starting to get, Cultured. 623 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: Danny this this, this this this young Secondary uh does 624 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: it need to be cultured slash? Season do they need 625 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 2: to bring in some extra? Experience to what? Degree on 626 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: your radar, Here? Darren you, know between now and, camp 627 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: do you think the likelihood is that maybe they're still 628 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: kicking the tires because there are a few, veteran proven 629 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: corners out on the. Market i'm not going to. 630 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: Rule it, out but, uh without fear of being beaten 631 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: down by the two of. 632 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: YOU. 633 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: I i think this is Where, look if you're going 634 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: to spend all this uh draft capital and time and 635 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: effort into bringing in and developing young, cornerbacks you play 636 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: the young. Cornerbacks they have too many at this point 637 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: in my mind to make sense to sign another. Veteran 638 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: it would have been one thing If Murphy bunting was, 639 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: healthy and you need to see if he was in the, 640 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: mix because he was already. 641 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: HERE i get. It but for, me you. 642 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: Spent your last two second round picks have been. Cornerbacks 643 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: you spent a couple of third round picks on. Cornerbacks 644 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: you have another guy with a bunch of experience the 645 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: last two years With Starling. Thomas if you're doing all 646 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: that and you're only getting one or one in your, 647 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: slot that that's troubling to. 648 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: Me if you're needing to. 649 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: Add why would we not agree with you THAT i 650 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: agree with you. Completely, well he wasn't. 651 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Sure beat me down on the wide receiver. 652 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: Thing well that was about wide. Receivers now we're talking about. 653 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 5: CORNERBACKS i completely. AGREE i put in all this capital 654 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: into the. Youth and that is the head coach's, position 655 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 5: that that is his. Baby he likes to call. It 656 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 5: that's you have to develop the players at some. 657 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: Point paul tends to like like the nineteen seventy One Washington. 658 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: Redskins he likes to over the hell. Game he's looking 659 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: for all the. 660 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: Veterans come, On oh my goodness and the name of the, 661 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: speedster the Longtime Washington Corner Darryl Darryl. Green you think 662 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: you Think, DARYL i Want Darryl green to walk through that. 663 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: Even the over the hell. Gang we're talking way Before Daryl. 664 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: Green but consider this your reminder to start refreshing on your. 665 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 5: Names for wise Guy. 666 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: Paul oh my, GOSH i, GOTTA i, GOTTA i gotta. 667 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: Work i'm trying to help, you trying to help you. 668 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: Out do they sell headphones WITH ai in? It Because 669 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: i'm GONNA i might have to cheat. 670 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: This can we edit that? Out you might want to trademark. 671 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: THAT i might have to have some. 672 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 5: Headphones edit that, out we'll, trademark. 673 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: Or Maybe i'll put an earbud in. Here just the 674 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: kids do in the classroom and they cheat with the 675 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: earbud in, there and. 676 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: Then make headphones with A i and put them on 677 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 5: dogs on your O zepic. Farm that's. 678 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Right wait a. MINUTE i had a great dog idea 679 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: the other. Day what was? It it? Was it was 680 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: because somebody stole my you, know way lost drugs for dogs, 681 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: idea WHICH i had somebody. Stolen, Yeah, OH i had a. 682 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: PIVOT i had a. 683 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: Pivot oh, yeah it. Was it was plastic surgery for, 684 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: dogs you, KNOW i mean maybe a little tuck under 685 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: the you, know in the, chin maybe around the next 686 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: some of the neck flap on the. 687 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: Dog you. 688 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: Know, NO i feel like you are like Subtweeting cheetoh right, 689 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: Now oh Poor. 690 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: Cheeto well, Yeah i'm. 691 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: Losing i'm trying to get him on a diet here 692 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: for the summer and it's not working out so. Well, 693 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: Okay so here's Where i'm going with. This i've been 694 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: the advocate for the young corners all. Along how many 695 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: times HAVE i? Cited and people are sick of? 696 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: It? 697 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Now who won The Super bowl with two rookie corners 698 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: in their? Secondary because they had a ridiculous front seven 699 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: and they had a great pass. Rush so to, me 700 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: if you Have Max melton And Will johnson And Starling 701 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: thomas And Garrett williams is a. Fixture and who knows 702 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: About Elijah jones in a little BIT i watched In 703 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: Mandatory Mini. Camp this there could be more baseless than 704 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: the following. COMMENT i was intrigued By Elijah jones based 705 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: On Mandatory MINI i was. Intrigued, okay he's, tall he's, 706 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: quick you forget he ran a four. Four he ran 707 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: a four to. Four he has really good ball. Skills 708 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: he played a lot of ball At Boston, college started 709 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: a lot of, games SO i am curious how quickly 710 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: he can get up to speed in the month Of. 711 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: August if if you told Me Elijah jones played the 712 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: first half of every single or the second half of 713 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 2: every single preseason, GAME i would not be shocked BECAUSE 714 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: i think they're going to try and find out what 715 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: they have that. 716 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: Makes, sense makes sense a, lot so we'll see. 717 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 5: All on the same page for young. 718 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: Cornerbacks by the, way you know who Enjoyed And i'll 719 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: leave it with, this the most freedom the last year 720 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: plus of anyone on his, team it has to Be 721 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: Buddha baker talk about setting someone. Free that's, True Buddha, 722 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: baker AND i think it'll he'll even What Troy polamala 723 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: was to the deep center field position as a. Safety 724 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: Buddha baker AND i think the national media is slow 725 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: to realize, this and they'll come around you it this, 726 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: year especially if The cardinals are a winning team and 727 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: DARE i, say a playoff, team they'll Realize buddha is 728 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: The Troy, Palamo, Mala. Mala i'm getting all fired. Up 729 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: we'll edit that out. Later The Troy polamalo of the 730 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: box Safety Buddha. 731 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: Baker watch me, Here, Paul i'm going to now weave 732 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: together my one quote as we wrap. 733 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Up, wait it's my new. 734 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 4: Phone and oh, wait we're gonna have to talk about 735 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 4: that my one quote as we wrap. Up and also 736 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: The Buddha baker. 737 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: Thing did you know that they once, Said, paul, oh, 738 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: oh freedom isn't free and given the, Contract Buddha baker 739 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: just got okay here his freedom was not free for 740 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: The Arizona. Cardinals you're tying it into a business. Set oh, 741 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: yeah well, kay all, RIGHT i got. You all, right 742 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: that's not. Bad anything else we missed on this freedom 743 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 3: edition Of Cardinals? 744 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: Underground do you guys man. 745 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: The grill for fourth Of? JULY i? 746 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: MIGHT i? 747 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: Might it depends if it's one hundred and seventy two 748 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: degrees outside like it is. 749 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 4: TODAY i don't know IF i. 750 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: Will there wasn't an Unfortunate july fourth couple of years 751 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: ago where yours truly might have overcooked the. Burgers and 752 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: WHEN i walked, in someone went into my office and 753 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: grabbed a couple of the coytes Hockey oh, no the 754 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 2: vulcanized rubber THAT i had on my desk right as 755 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: a souvenir some. Stuff and they took one of the 756 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: hockey bucks and they put it between two amburger buns 757 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: and they put it on the top of the platter 758 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: THAT i put it on the. Island everyone's a smart 759 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: alec At COSTA calvc and so, yeah Occasionally i'm relieved 760 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: of my barbecuing. Duties if my. 761 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 5: Brother in law is, over you might need to redeem. 762 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 5: YOURSELF i try and make sure you know the meat is, 763 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 5: grilled so you like your burger is well done. 764 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: Well not by, DESIGN i just somehow it always it 765 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: always ends up that. WAY i don't know What i'm with. 766 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: You i'm trying to do a thorough. Job i'm not 767 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: great on the girl ends up being too. 768 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 4: Effort, yeah. 769 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: Okay the worst moment is when the wife, says do 770 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 2: you want me to call my? Brother? No and that'll 771 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: do it for this, EDITION A Cardinal's underground brought to 772 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: you by The Civic Office automation