1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080
Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

2
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840
Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocatesla dot com.

3
00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Allegra is on the phone today for a first date

4
00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,080
Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Gary.

5
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,560
Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him and

6
00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,560
Speaker 2: see if you'll tell us why he's a ghostinger and

7
00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,400
Speaker 2: maybe get her another date. But first, Allegra, how long

8
00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,800
Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Gary?

9
00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,920
Speaker 3: It has been five days?

10
00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,439
Speaker 1: Who's keeping tracker? You know anything? Five days on the dot?

11
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,000
Speaker 1: What was your last interaction with him?

12
00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,160
Speaker 4: Like?

13
00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,200
Speaker 5: Uh, it was great, Like he asked me to maybe

14
00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,839
Speaker 5: go on a second date and I was looking for that,

15
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,199
Speaker 5: just even a text from him, And yeah, now it's

16
00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,640
Speaker 5: a fifth day. I've been feeling I haven't been sleeping.

17
00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120
Speaker 5: I know that's embarrassing, but I just really liked him

18
00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,480
Speaker 5: a lot.

19
00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,040
Speaker 6: Have you tried to reach out to him?

20
00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I sent, like, I sent three texts and I

21
00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,520
Speaker 5: think that's about it. Like, I'm not gonna push it anymore.

22
00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,800
Speaker 6: What are you saying in the text?

23
00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,960
Speaker 5: Are you just like hey, yeah, I'm just like hey,

24
00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,800
Speaker 5: I had a great time. And then the other one

25
00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,839
Speaker 5: was like hope you're doing well. Third one was like, hey,

26
00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,280
Speaker 5: do you want to go to six Flags together or something?

27
00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well let's try to figure it out. Why don't

28
00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,680
Speaker 1: you tell us about your date.

29
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we had a picnic at the park and

30
00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,080
Speaker 5: we went to a market, got some sandwiches, and I

31
00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,920
Speaker 5: brought Monopoly.

32
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,000
Speaker 3: That was fun.

33
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,360
Speaker 5: We went to go see a movie after so I

34
00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920
Speaker 5: thought like things were going really well.

35
00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,920
Speaker 3: There was chemistry, in my opinion.

36
00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,480
Speaker 5: We just talked about like where we went to school,

37
00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,280
Speaker 5: like what our hobbies are, and I feel like I

38
00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,800
Speaker 5: really liked how quirky he was and and that like

39
00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,399
Speaker 5: he had he was interested in, like reptiles, and I

40
00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,840
Speaker 5: really tried to engage with him and telling how him

41
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 5: how my dad also has like like esoteric interests.

42
00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,840
Speaker 3: And I was really nervous, honestly.

43
00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,400
Speaker 5: So I don't I'm afraid if I like messed up

44
00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680
Speaker 5: or anything, but I was just really anxious.

45
00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I like that's something.

46
00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,080
Speaker 5: Out of the blue or made him feel bad about

47
00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,080
Speaker 5: liking reptiles.

48
00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

49
00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400
Speaker 6: Do you remember anything awkward that you might have said?

50
00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think he told me before, like on

51
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,920
Speaker 5: his previous relationship. He uh, he cheated on his last girlfriend,

52
00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,720
Speaker 5: and so I kind of maybe said like, yeah, like

53
00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:26,920
Speaker 5: that wasn't a good.

54
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,640
Speaker 3: Thing to do, Like maybe I wasn't supportive to him.

55
00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,760
Speaker 3: You know, it's a pretty.

56
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,440
Speaker 1: Bold thing to come out on a first date and

57
00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640
Speaker 1: cheated on their last person. I san you, I have

58
00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,120
Speaker 1: a track record of cheating in my relationship.

59
00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, you probably don't want to be

60
00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840
Speaker 2: supportive of that. I think it's okay to say that

61
00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,760
Speaker 2: that was a bad decision.

62
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know what's happened since.

63
00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, we've been texting for two weeks on it

64
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,360
Speaker 3: from a dating app.

65
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,839
Speaker 5: So we were like, we've already gone through the first

66
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,800
Speaker 5: stages of like ice breakers.

67
00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,720
Speaker 3: So that's why we died pretty deep that day.

68
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll play a song come Back, and then

69
00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,400
Speaker 2: call him and see if he'll tell us why he's

70
00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,040
Speaker 2: ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

71
00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,520
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you so much.

72
00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll play song come Back, get your first

73
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 2: Day follow up next. Right in the middle of today's

74
00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,280
Speaker 2: first date follow up, And if you're just joining us,

75
00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,079
Speaker 2: Allegra is on the phone, and Allegra is getting ghosted

76
00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,760
Speaker 2: by a guy named Gary, and we're about to call

77
00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,679
Speaker 2: him and see if he'll tell us why he's a ghostinger

78
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,320
Speaker 2: and see if we can get her another date. But first, Allegra,

79
00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,840
Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation?

80
00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been five days since he texted me, and

81
00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,560
Speaker 5: I thought our first.

82
00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,639
Speaker 3: Date went amazing.

83
00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,560
Speaker 5: Maybe I heard his feelings on something that was personal,

84
00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,200
Speaker 5: and yeah, I'm.

85
00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400
Speaker 3: Just curious to see like what he's up to. It's

86
00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,040
Speaker 3: been a while.

87
00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:57,600
Speaker 6: You ready? Yeah, Okay, here we go. Hi, I speak

88
00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,280
Speaker 6: to Gary please.

89
00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Gary, Gary.

90
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,680
Speaker 3: How are you?

91
00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,480
Speaker 6: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show.

92
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 6: It's called the Jubil Show. Hi, Gary, I'm Nina also

93
00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,120
Speaker 6: on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria.

94
00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,000
Speaker 4: Hi everyone, how are you? I'm good? What's going on?

95
00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,920
Speaker 6: Do you ever listen to the radio show at all?

96
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

97
00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:15,760
Speaker 3: I have?

98
00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,000
Speaker 6: Okay? Great? Have you ever heard a first date follow

99
00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,479
Speaker 6: up before?

100
00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,800
Speaker 4: Yes? I have?

101
00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,080
Speaker 6: Perfect.

102
00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,320
Speaker 2: Well, then you know that that's the segment that we

103
00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,559
Speaker 2: do where if you go on a date with someone

104
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 2: and then end up ghosting them, they can email us

105
00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,320
Speaker 2: to get you on the phone and ask why you're

106
00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,120
Speaker 2: ghosting them.

107
00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

108
00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we got an email about you, Gary.

109
00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,560
Speaker 4: Oh did you Yes, we did.

110
00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,080
Speaker 2: Any idea who would email us and say that you're

111
00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,240
Speaker 2: ghosting them.

112
00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,080
Speaker 4: I can think of one person.

113
00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, does it start with an a?

114
00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,880
Speaker 4: Did it with agra? Yes?

115
00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,520
Speaker 6: It is.

116
00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,640
Speaker 2: She emailed us. We talked to her. She told us

117
00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,279
Speaker 2: about your date, said she really liked you, but she's

118
00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,400
Speaker 2: confused and wants to know why you're ghosting He would

119
00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,280
Speaker 2: you mind telling us?

120
00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240
Speaker 4: Sure? But well, did she tell you about the date?

121
00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,080
Speaker 6: She did?

122
00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,320
Speaker 2: She said it was good. She said, you guys went

123
00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,480
Speaker 2: to like to a park and then you like reptiles. Yeah,

124
00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 2: she said, She said, you guys talked about a bunch

125
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,040
Speaker 2: of stuff, including the fact that you like reptiles, and

126
00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 2: she said it was a really good date.

127
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. We went to a I guess you could call

128
00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,080
Speaker 4: it a park, but it was actually a graveyard. What. Yeah,

129
00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,720
Speaker 4: she laid out a picnic blanket over just you know,

130
00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,400
Speaker 4: like a random person's grave, and then she wanted us

131
00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,080
Speaker 4: to eat on it.

132
00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys met at the graveyard. She took

133
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,360
Speaker 1: you to the graveyard and took her to the graveyard.

134
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,600
Speaker 1: How did you get to a graveyard?

135
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,400
Speaker 4: Well, she said she wanted to have a picnic, and

136
00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,680
Speaker 4: so I met her and she took me to it.

137
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,760
Speaker 4: She said was going to be a great spot for

138
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,039
Speaker 4: picnic and then she, like I said, she just laid

139
00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,000
Speaker 4: that brought me to a graveyard. I kind of thought

140
00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,600
Speaker 4: we were walking through the graveyard to go to the

141
00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,359
Speaker 4: next you know that there was a park on the

142
00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 4: other side, huh. But no, No, it was like full

143
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,159
Speaker 4: picnic basket on top of someone, you know, someone who

144
00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,120
Speaker 4: is decomposing.

145
00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800
Speaker 2: You didn't say anything about that, like, hey, can we

146
00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,760
Speaker 2: go to the like where there's a picnic table that

147
00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,960
Speaker 2: part and not dead people?

148
00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,080
Speaker 4: I was, I mean, I was shocked, frankly, and I

149
00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960
Speaker 4: was I was hungry, so I was too hungry to look.

150
00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,120
Speaker 4: She was just talking the whole time, so I maybe

151
00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,560
Speaker 4: got like two words, and I was I was just

152
00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,600
Speaker 4: sort of in shock. It just felt like you know,

153
00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,440
Speaker 4: when you're running out the clock and it just couldn't

154
00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,280
Speaker 4: move any slower.

155
00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,040
Speaker 6: Did she address the fact that you guys were at

156
00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 6: a graveyard while she was talking to you and you

157
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,240
Speaker 6: were eating.

158
00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,680
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, she loved it. She thought it was fantastic

159
00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,400
Speaker 4: and it's so cool that this is here and that

160
00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,359
Speaker 4: we can enjoy this sort of stuff.

161
00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,640
Speaker 6: My mom likeyard.

162
00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,320
Speaker 1: She totally would my mom loves going to different graveyards

163
00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,880
Speaker 1: and just sell brading people's lives and learning about them.

164
00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,240
Speaker 6: I don't think that's what they were doing. I mean,

165
00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,000
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe she's got a fascination with it too.

166
00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,760
Speaker 2: You know.

167
00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,920
Speaker 4: I thought maybe it was someone that she loved. But

168
00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,200
Speaker 4: then she started talking about how she, you know, likes

169
00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,720
Speaker 4: to go to different grave sites and do the.

170
00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,960
Speaker 6: Same thing, like have picnics at the graveyard.

171
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sometimes she goes by herself, she said. Sometimes

172
00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,440
Speaker 4: it's just she likes to bring a blanket and sunbathe.

173
00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280
Speaker 1: My mom always says that the whole idea is that

174
00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,800
Speaker 1: if you don't acknowledge them, then they are forgotten. I mean,

175
00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,760
Speaker 1: for me, I would be very creeped out in a graveyard.

176
00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if her mentality is similar to my mother's,

177
00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880
Speaker 1: where it's just as she wants to honor people that

178
00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,720
Speaker 1: she doesn't know.

179
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,120
Speaker 4: It was. If we weren't at a graveyard, it was

180
00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,200
Speaker 4: just a picnic in a park, but it was on

181
00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,200
Speaker 4: a grave. I just I thought it was It was

182
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,680
Speaker 4: super weird, and if I'm being honest, it was probably

183
00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 4: the worst situation that I've ever been in.

184
00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 6: Okay, well, Lego felt differently. She thought it was great.

185
00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,040
Speaker 4: Oh I know, yeah, she made that very clear. It's

186
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360
Speaker 4: like it felt like maybe she was. At one point

187
00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,400
Speaker 4: I was like, is this is is she wanting to

188
00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,520
Speaker 4: leave me in the grave? And is there?

189
00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,080
Speaker 6: Okay?

190
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, come over here back behind the behind this building. Well,

191
00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 2: Gary Allegra is on the phone listening and wants to

192
00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,600
Speaker 2: talk to you.

193
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right, that's right. I forgot that. She

194
00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,120
Speaker 4: that that's what you do. She's right there on the phone.

195
00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:39,760
Speaker 3: Uh high Allegra, Gary, you're a buyer. You you loved it.

196
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,240
Speaker 4: So I I was uncomfortable when you kept saying do

197
00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,240
Speaker 4: you do you love it? Isn't this great? Don't you

198
00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,000
Speaker 4: love it? And I said yeah, like that you think

199
00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,680
Speaker 4: that's how somebody says yeah when they're excited about something.

200
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,840
Speaker 5: Well, you could be a little more honest because I

201
00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,080
Speaker 5: didn't get the cue once.

202
00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,360
Speaker 3: The cheater always here.

203
00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160
Speaker 6: I know you're gonna cheater?

204
00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,760
Speaker 4: How did I what?

205
00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

206
00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,080
Speaker 3: You should feel guilty like still to this day. So yeah, you.

207
00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,280
Speaker 4: Told me what are you talking about?

208
00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,679
Speaker 3: You told me that cheer fast relationship?

209
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I don't know what are you talk this?

210
00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,240
Speaker 4: I never said that plastic cheater mode.

211
00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't even know who you are. Gary. I

212
00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 3: wish I never met you.

213
00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, don't say that too quickly, Gary, would you like

214
00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,760
Speaker 2: another date with a legro?

215
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,559
Speaker 6: We'll pay for it.

216
00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 4: No, No, thank you?

217
00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah you Gary

218
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,160
Speaker 6: Jule's First Date follow up