WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Tyler Smith Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. On September fourteenth, twenty eighteen, in Galesburg, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty three year old graduate of Western Illinois University

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<v Speaker 1>named Tyler Smith headed out to party with some friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler had dreams of becoming a police officer. He was

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<v Speaker 1>always super athletic. He played football in high school, and

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<v Speaker 1>after graduating from Western Illinois University, he applied to and

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<v Speaker 1>was accepted into the Police Academy in San Jose, California.

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<v Speaker 1>According to his family, he was one of only fifty

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<v Speaker 1>candidates out of five thousand who were selected for that program.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's mom, Sandra, said that Tyler loved California. He loved

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<v Speaker 1>everything about it, especially surfing in outdoor sports. He was

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<v Speaker 1>super excited about his upcoming move. Once he entered law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler hoped to eventually possibly become a DEA agent or

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<v Speaker 1>work with a canine unit. He was starting his life

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<v Speaker 1>and chasing his dream, and he was actually making it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler had also been in the Army National Guard since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, and he had come back to Illinois to

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill his commitment because the next day, September fifteenth, Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>was due to report for drills. Tyler and his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Evan and Evan's cousin Robbie, were out

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<v Speaker 1>drinking that night. They were blowing off some steam and

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of their last night of freedom. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's mother, Sandra Halsney, who has been working on a timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to several bars in the area. He and

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<v Speaker 1>his friends left a bar at ten thirty and were

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<v Speaker 1>seen at a nearby atm at around ten forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Then at some point Tyler got separated from his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened next is kind of a mystery because

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<v Speaker 1>later his friends told his mother that they were all

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<v Speaker 1>intoxicated that night and they can't remember exactly how they separated.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I think that one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that first got to me about this case was the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, in my opinion, we've all been there. We've

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<v Speaker 1>all gotten separated from our friends, maybe had a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too much to drink, and not known where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all times in our lives when we've been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit vulnerable and in a strange place. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's definitely happened to me. But Tyler was five

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<v Speaker 1>foot eleven and weighed just over two hundred pounds. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very muscular and fit, so it's not surprising he

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<v Speaker 1>probably felt like he could take care of himself. Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>started walking around lost and made several phone calls starting

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven oh five pm. Then at some point he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped answering the phone, and the next morning he never

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<v Speaker 1>showed up at the National Guard Armory to report. At

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty am, around twelve hours later, his body was

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<v Speaker 1>found in the Cedar Fort Creek area, just two blocks

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<v Speaker 1>away from where he was last seen the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, Sandra Tyler's father, Keith Smith, and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his family have been desperately trying to find out

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to him. How did Tyler end up in

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<v Speaker 1>that drainage ditch, did he fall, did he drown? Or

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<v Speaker 1>could he have been murdered? I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>seven four four six one four five. That's six seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four four six one four or five. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Helen Gone Murder Line. Sandra and her son Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>have always been close. In fact, Sandra said she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to drive with him to start his new life

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<v Speaker 1>in California, but before he left town, Tyler made those

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<v Speaker 1>plans for a night out with some of his old friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said that Tyler told her and his father, Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>that he was planning on staying at a friend's house.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Sandra.

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<v Speaker 2>And they went out and they were drink king and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming he was celebrating leaving, you know, Drill. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a big thing for him. And he went

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<v Speaker 2>out with his friends, and you know, he's just turned

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. I mean, that's what they do. They go out,

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<v Speaker 2>they drink, they have fun. They went to light maybe

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<v Speaker 2>four or five bars. There's just one block of bars.

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<v Speaker 2>They walked everywhere, and so he had went missing and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't show up for Drill. And I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know this until about Saturday, at about four point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a messenger. I got a phone call from Evan,

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<v Speaker 2>who was this guy that he was supposed to stay with.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said she was not familiar with the area where

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler and his friends were, but they weren't worried because

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler was obviously a very physically fit guy who could

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<v Speaker 1>take care of himself. Also, Tyler was gregarious and kind

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<v Speaker 1>and had no issues with talking to strangers. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra could not reach her son. Then she got a

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<v Speaker 1>call from Evan, one of the guys who was out

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<v Speaker 1>with Tyler the night before, saying that Tyler never showed

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<v Speaker 1>up for the National Guard drill. This was an immediate

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<v Speaker 1>red flag because Tyler always showed up on time. Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>and Keith made the drive to Gilsburg. They found Tyler's

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<v Speaker 1>car in the driveway of the house where he had

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<v Speaker 1>been staying, but there was no sign of their son.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked to his friends, Evan and Robbie about the

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<v Speaker 1>night before. Basically, the guys said they had all been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty drunk and that after they left the last bar,

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<v Speaker 1>they got separated from Tyler, and they said they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen him since. At some point, Tyler ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>Evan's car keys. They were found in Tyler's Jean's pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra claims that Evan told her at some point, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they must have decided that of the three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler was the most sober, and so he apparently was

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<v Speaker 1>going to drive at one point. Obviously this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a great choice, which I guess they must have realized,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the end none of them drove home. Evan

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<v Speaker 1>said he woke up at five thirty am the next

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<v Speaker 1>morning he realized that Tyler wasn't there, but his stuff

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<v Speaker 1>was there, and his car was parked in the driveway,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew Tyler still had his car keys. Evan

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<v Speaker 1>started trying to call Tyler. He called him at five

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight am five forty five am, but Tyler never

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<v Speaker 1>picked up and never responded. Evan texted again a little

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<v Speaker 1>while later, but that text stayed unread. Evan immediately reported

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler missing to the police that morning and also called Sandra.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said that she has no reason to doubt any

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<v Speaker 1>of the story that Evan and Robbie told her, and

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<v Speaker 1>that they seemed very cooperative and helpful, but she did wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>just being human, if there could be more to that story,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they got in some kind of argument, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>just a minor dumb, drunken argument that can we sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>get into after a long night out. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>wondered if some reason Tyler decided to leave suddenly, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was going to stay somewhere else. That was

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<v Speaker 1>just a possibility. It's also possible that after they split up,

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<v Speaker 1>he went on into another bar by himself. Because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems so weird that he had just randomly disappeared into

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<v Speaker 1>the darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have clear why he was looking for another

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<v Speaker 2>place to stay. I don't know, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's I'm not saying Tyler was innocent. He could drink,

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<v Speaker 2>he could party with the best of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he just did four years at the university. The kitchen party,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But he also had a good head on

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<v Speaker 2>her shoulders. It wasn't stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra told Dateline that after she and Keith talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's friends, they went to the police station. Then what

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<v Speaker 1>happened next was horrifying. She said. A pizza delivery guy

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<v Speaker 1>randomly walked in and said something about a body being

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<v Speaker 1>founded nearby creek. She said she sensed immediately that the

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<v Speaker 1>body they found was Tyler. According to the Gailsburg Police Department,

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<v Speaker 1>someone was passing by the Cedar Fork Creek area. They

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<v Speaker 1>found Tyler's body at around seven pm on September fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Forensic testing would reveal that Tyler's body had been lying

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<v Speaker 1>there since early that morning or the night before. He

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<v Speaker 1>was lying face down in about two inches of water.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandras said that from the beginning she thought the case

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<v Speaker 1>should have been investigated as a homicide until proven otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>but the police very quickly concluded. She said that this

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<v Speaker 1>had been an accident. She said the autopsy was done

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<v Speaker 1>in just thirty one minutes, which she was later able

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out. And I'll get into this in much

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<v Speaker 1>more depth a little bit later and next week through

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<v Speaker 1>her own investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so unfortunate that there's so much information I have

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<v Speaker 2>uncovered so much, and like nothing's being done about it.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Sandra's advocacy for her son and her determination

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<v Speaker 1>she has done an incredible amount of work really is

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<v Speaker 1>another one of the main things that made me want

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<v Speaker 1>to look further into this case. As you all know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to take cases not just a talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what was done, and to bring the case public attention,

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<v Speaker 1>but also I want to help people. I want people

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<v Speaker 1>out there who may be dealing with these situations and

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<v Speaker 1>their homes and their towns and their families to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to advocate for themselves. I want to learn what

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<v Speaker 1>we can from this case, and in my opinion, Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>has done an amazing job of getting information when she

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<v Speaker 1>got frustrated with the police. Because we always struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>that balance. I talk a lot about this. We're always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to ask ourselves, how do we find information and

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<v Speaker 1>do our own detective work and support the police investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>but not interfere with it. We're always trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>that balance right. Tyler's phone was found pretty intact. The

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<v Speaker 1>screen wasn't even cracked. According to Sandra, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>password protect on that phone. So initially this would seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a really good piece of evidence. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be able to trace where he was the night

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<v Speaker 1>before using GP. Yes, but there were some complications with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where the difference between what we see

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<v Speaker 1>on shows like CSI and reality really coming to start contrast. Because,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, at some point in the evening, Tyler's

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<v Speaker 1>battery died, but that wasn't the problem. The data was

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<v Speaker 1>still there. Really, the bigger problem was that apparently Tyler,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was walking around in that neighborhood, that area

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a dead zone, so GPS tracking apparently

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really work there. Sandra said she was prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>assist with the police investigation, but she said she was

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<v Speaker 1>very surprised when police ruled so quickly that this had

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<v Speaker 1>been what they described as an accidental drowning, even though

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said she later learned that Tyler had several wounds

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<v Speaker 1>on his body that made her believe that he had

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<v Speaker 1>been viciously assaulted. Sandra told me about the reaction she

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<v Speaker 1>had from police when she came to their office and

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<v Speaker 1>asked to see her son's body. At Lasse came in

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<v Speaker 1>and gave Sandra Tyler's belongings, including his wallet. They told

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<v Speaker 1>her that Tyler smelled of alcohol and that he had

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<v Speaker 1>been found in a creek bed. Now at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Sandra, police said there was no way that

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler had fallen from the distance to where he was found.

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<v Speaker 1>They told her bodies don't just end up there side

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<v Speaker 1>note this would change later, because police later told Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>that they did believe that Tyler had fallen from above

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<v Speaker 1>the railing. Initially, though they said he must have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>down in there somehow fallen and knocked himself out from

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<v Speaker 1>the train tracks above. Just for clarification, there are train

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<v Speaker 1>tracks in the area where Tyler's body was found. The

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<v Speaker 1>ground there is very rocky and uneven. Police told Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>and Keith they believe Tyler had possibly fallen over the

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<v Speaker 1>railing and then drowned, but Sandra questioned that because Tyler's

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<v Speaker 1>body was found face down, her arms were stretched behind

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<v Speaker 1>him and his palms were facing up, So she wondered

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<v Speaker 1>how could he have gotten himself into that position? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would he not try to reach his arms out and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow break his fall if this was an accident, and

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<v Speaker 1>she had other questions about the scene. There were marks

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<v Speaker 1>in the muddy water near one of Tyler's hands that

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<v Speaker 1>to her looked like drag marks, looked like the hand

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<v Speaker 1>impossibly the whole body had been pulled a few inches.

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<v Speaker 1>She also saw marx on Tyler's wrist. Police later told

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<v Speaker 1>her they believed those were from the zip ties when

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<v Speaker 1>they had zipped Tyler into the body bag, but Sandra

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<v Speaker 1>wondered about that post mortem lebidity would normally have settled

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<v Speaker 1>in by the time Tyler's body was found, so could

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<v Speaker 1>those marks she wondered have been from something else, perhaps handcuffs.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a beer can next to Tyler's body.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said that it was never tested for fingerprints. She

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<v Speaker 1>began to suspect that Tyler did not fall into that

0:14:09.125 --> 0:14:15.925
<v Speaker 1>position she believed he was placed there. Police did not

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<v Speaker 1>let her identify Tyler's body.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally begged to see him, and they refused for

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<v Speaker 2>me to see him or I tim I said, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm his mother, like, don't you need a family member

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<v Speaker 2>in a dam? And they're like no, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>police officers used to drill with your son and she

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<v Speaker 2>knew him and she ided him. Plus he has tattoos

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<v Speaker 2>that match or a tattoo, and I'm like, well, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like I won't touch him. I'll just look at him

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<v Speaker 2>and promise I won't screw anything up because they're like no,

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<v Speaker 2>his body in a body bag and sip tight and

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<v Speaker 2>everything's evident. And then Steve and I had to drive

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<v Speaker 2>back home to two two and a half hours, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after finding on our son's dead in this concrete canal

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<v Speaker 2>and with no answers and refusally even see him. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just it's just been a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is not uncommon, A lot of people do

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<v Speaker 1>ask about that. In fact, police departments are moving more

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<v Speaker 1>away from having family members identify the body and doing

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<v Speaker 1>it through DNA or other methods. But Sandra said this

0:15:21.005 --> 0:15:23.565
<v Speaker 1>was traumatic for her. She said they told her the

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<v Speaker 1>body was already in a body bag and that due

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<v Speaker 1>to chain of custody rules, they could not allow her

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<v Speaker 1>to see her son's face. They said they were taking

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler to Peoria for an autopsy. After that, Sandra said

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<v Speaker 1>she did have a conversation with the coroner, Mark Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she got a call from Mark Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, September sixteenth, twenty eighteen, and at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, Mark told her that Tyler's autopsy would be

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<v Speaker 1>performed the next day by forensic pathologists from Peoria who

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do a thorough exam.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, you're going to make sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't have a brain sleep, right, You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you can't do X rays writ in the

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<v Speaker 2>street and having broken balls or anything like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>the corner told me, oh, yeah, for sure. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they know what they're doing and that'll all

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<v Speaker 2>be done. And then I found out later that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once I got the report back, I'm like, did they

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<v Speaker 2>act ray Tyler? And he's like, well, I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 2>did it. Let me look at so I guess they

0:16:16.805 --> 0:16:20.805
<v Speaker 2>did it. It's the corner. You didn't even know you're

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<v Speaker 2>putting this stuff on a death certificate. You don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if he got X ray. Like, I just closed

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<v Speaker 2>my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra is no stranger to the medical field, so she

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<v Speaker 1>believed that the coroner and the medical examiner would do

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<v Speaker 1>a thorough job, so she was shocked when she got

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<v Speaker 1>the call after the autopsy was complete. The emmy said

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's death was caused by drowning, and when that conversation happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said, they made it sound like Tyler only had

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<v Speaker 1>minor injuries. To Sandra, the investigation seemed rushed. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she was also shocked when she discovered the extent of

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries on her son, injuries she said that were

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<v Speaker 1>much worse than what she had been led to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she was told that Tyler had a small

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<v Speaker 1>scratch on his face, most likely from falling and knocking

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<v Speaker 1>himself out. The funeral home director told her Tyler had

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<v Speaker 1>much more than just a scratch. She finally saw her

0:17:21.085 --> 0:17:24.725
<v Speaker 1>son for the first time on Tuesday, September eighteenth. She

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<v Speaker 1>had his visitation scheduled for the following Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I knew something's wrong. My cheek was ten

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<v Speaker 3>times the size it should be, and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>get to see the one side, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 3>telled this by looking at knuscles were all scratched up.

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<v Speaker 3>That I mean he he could he had a huge

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<v Speaker 3>like he had like a wound in his frontal.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, like temporal frontal area, like what happened to him?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he had no I was told he had

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<v Speaker 2>a bump on his head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's heart wrenching for me to imagine the scene of

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<v Speaker 1>this mother who was having to have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>a funeral director about her son's injuries and how much

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<v Speaker 1>makeup they would need to use. I cannot imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>pain this must have caused her, she said. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the funeral director did his best and was able to

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<v Speaker 1>cover up some of the injuries with makeup, while Sandrew

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to bury her son. She kept calling the detective

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<v Speaker 1>to find out what was going on with the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>She learned they were going to list the cause of

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<v Speaker 1>death as drowning, manner of death undetermined, but police told

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<v Speaker 1>her they did not suspect foul play. According to reports

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<v Speaker 1>by the Knox County Corner in the Galesburg Police Department,

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<v Speaker 1>they believed this was an accident. One of the factors

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<v Speaker 1>that led them to believe that was the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler's blood alcohol level was er point two four to

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<v Speaker 1>six percent. Now, this is very high. In fact, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost three times the legal limit. He was clearly intoxicated,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was wandering around in an area he was

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<v Speaker 1>unfamiliar with. So we do have to consider the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that he did have some sort of accident and no

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<v Speaker 1>one else was involved. Sandra doesn't discount that, but she

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<v Speaker 1>believes that police closed the case much too quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went to go see Tyler, Tyler was found

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<v Speaker 2>to see that. Even said to the police officer, Hey,

0:19:15.405 --> 0:19:18.085
<v Speaker 2>this person over here at camera, you know, did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys check these cameras? Yeah, yeah, you know, Well he's

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<v Speaker 2>like just kind of blew me off. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>we got back to the pay station, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>can you call the guy and see if you know

0:19:25.565 --> 0:19:30.445
<v Speaker 2>you can he has still has footage. And he's just like, oh, well, yeah,

0:19:30.485 --> 0:19:32.525
<v Speaker 2>I'll call him. You know, I know him. Blah blah blah.

0:19:32.685 --> 0:19:36.405
<v Speaker 2>Like the officer in Tyler's case was horrible. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>I gave him information, He's like, what's that going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me? How's that going to tell me? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to give us something, you know, like did

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<v Speaker 2>you look at video to see if you could find

0:19:44.445 --> 0:19:47.165
<v Speaker 2>Evan walking? Did you look at street video? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the bar video? Did you look at surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>video around? You know? Did you even do like a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you go and knock on people's doors. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you hear anything, see anything? You know, There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>list of stuff they were supposed to do, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to call in the state police to help

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<v Speaker 2>them with the investigation, and they just didn't do that,

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<v Speaker 2>And so they didn't follow any protocol at all, not

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<v Speaker 2>one single bit of it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was also frustrated that at every single turn it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like she had to gather evidence herself, and the

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<v Speaker 1>costs were mounting. She did for a requests. She said

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<v Speaker 1>she had to pay seventy five dollars for an autopsy report,

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<v Speaker 1>plus an additional one hundred and thirty dollars for the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of her son's body. She got them on December sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>almost three months after his death. Sandra decided to do

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<v Speaker 1>more of her own investigation. She started following her son's

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<v Speaker 1>digital trail. She started going through his bank account. Sandra

0:20:45.725 --> 0:20:49.405
<v Speaker 1>went through Tyler's email. She found a receipt that showed

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<v Speaker 1>that Tyler had used an ATM at ten forty two

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<v Speaker 1>pm on Friday, September fourteenth at a Wells Fargo bank

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<v Speaker 1>in Galesburg. He withdrew one hundred dollars. She asked the

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<v Speaker 1>police to get video surveillance from Wells Fargo, but says

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<v Speaker 1>she was told that it could take up to six

0:21:05.205 --> 0:21:09.245
<v Speaker 1>weeks and that Wells Fargo were very hard to deal with. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandra said she was made to feel that Tyler's case

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<v Speaker 1>was not a priority. Sandra said where Tyler's body was

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<v Speaker 1>found was in a pretty dangerous area with a high

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<v Speaker 1>crime rate. There are people out on the streets late

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<v Speaker 1>at night, so it seemed to her that it was

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<v Speaker 1>very possible that he encountered someone who assaulted him.

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<v Speaker 2>I even went and found the guy that called nine

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<v Speaker 2>one one. I got the police report and got his

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<v Speaker 2>name and then googled him and showed up at his

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<v Speaker 2>house asking him questions. And he's like, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>know where was I at? Like who told you about me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, well, the police report. I got

0:21:45.125 --> 0:21:46.805
<v Speaker 2>your name from fish report and I googled. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>did they tell you where I lived? I'm like no,

0:21:49.045 --> 0:21:50.645
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I found you on my own, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, because Keith and I showed up at

0:21:52.645 --> 0:21:55.405
<v Speaker 2>the house, and then that's when he shared his wife

0:21:55.445 --> 0:21:59.325
<v Speaker 2>took a video of what she saw down there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had the nine one one call and so

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<v Speaker 2>but I've never really spoke to him since I went

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<v Speaker 2>to his house, and I know the police never even

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<v Speaker 2>followed up with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Since she had not gotten any word from the police

0:22:11.085 --> 0:22:14.445
<v Speaker 1>about the ATM video, Sandra started to look for other

0:22:14.605 --> 0:22:18.445
<v Speaker 1>potential surveillance footage. Law enforcement gave her the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>her son's belongings. This included some change Tyler's watch, a

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<v Speaker 1>vaping device, a snuff box with some pills in it

0:22:26.125 --> 0:22:30.245
<v Speaker 1>that she was told were ibuprofen and seventy two dollars

0:22:30.245 --> 0:22:33.245
<v Speaker 1>in cash that was in his pocket. Now, Sandra thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was very strange because he had gone to the

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<v Speaker 1>ATM at around ten forty two and withdrawn one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>She had the receipt for that, and she said he

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<v Speaker 1>used his debit card at the bars he was at

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<v Speaker 1>that night, So where was this missing twenty eight dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was the beer can. She wondered why they

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<v Speaker 1>would just assume that it was unconnected to Tyler, Why

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't test for fingerprints. And Sandra also found herself

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if the case was so quickly dismissed because of

0:23:02.485 --> 0:23:07.445
<v Speaker 1>her son's race. Tyler is by ray, half black, half white.

0:23:07.885 --> 0:23:10.445
<v Speaker 1>She wondered if that could have factored into the police's

0:23:10.485 --> 0:23:13.365
<v Speaker 1>decision to, in her mind, dismiss this case so quickly.

0:23:16.365 --> 0:23:19.165
<v Speaker 1>The last place where Tyler was seen having drinks was

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<v Speaker 1>the Corner Connection Bar, just a few blocks from where

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<v Speaker 1>his body was found. After he left the last bar,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler started trying to call his friends. The calls started

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<v Speaker 1>at around eleven oh five, so the phone records lead

0:23:34.005 --> 0:23:37.085
<v Speaker 1>Tyler's friends who remember are also trying to remember exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, his mother and everyone else to think that

0:23:39.565 --> 0:23:43.925
<v Speaker 1>they probably separated just after that. And again, Sandra was

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated by the fact that police waited two months to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Tyler's friends, because even though, as we said before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to make this clear, there's absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to believe they were in any way involved in

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<v Speaker 1>his disappearance. They were his friends. They did the right thing,

0:23:58.525 --> 0:24:02.165
<v Speaker 1>they immediately reported it to police. But as an investigator,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have wanted to talk to them anyway, because

0:24:04.685 --> 0:24:07.965
<v Speaker 1>they may re tiny details about the night before that

0:24:08.045 --> 0:24:12.205
<v Speaker 1>could end up being crucial. We're all human, and to

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<v Speaker 1>me it seemed like potentially these young men might have

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<v Speaker 1>given more evidence to police at that time when their

0:24:19.445 --> 0:24:22.885
<v Speaker 1>memories were fresh, simply because it must have been hard,

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<v Speaker 1>much as they wanted to be helpful, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to someone's mom sometimes about a night of heavy

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<v Speaker 1>drinking and what they might have talked about. In my opinion,

0:24:31.925 --> 0:24:35.085
<v Speaker 1>police detective should have questioned these guys immediately for several

0:24:35.085 --> 0:24:40.485
<v Speaker 1>different reasons. After getting separated from his friends, Tyler walked

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<v Speaker 1>the streets for the next forty minutes or so. During

0:24:43.445 --> 0:24:47.005
<v Speaker 1>this time, he was making phone calls and sending snapchat messages.

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<v Speaker 1>At eleven forty six pm, Tyler sent a snapchat message

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<v Speaker 1>to another friend. It read quote, I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>I am end quote. His final call was to a

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<v Speaker 1>friend at eleven fifty After that, the friend called him back,

0:25:02.085 --> 0:25:07.045
<v Speaker 1>but Tyler didn't answer. He never made another call. Something

0:25:07.285 --> 0:25:14.605
<v Speaker 1>happened at around eleven fifty pm. When Sandra came back

0:25:14.685 --> 0:25:17.045
<v Speaker 1>in to talk to police, she started to get the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that the detectives were kind of blowing her off

0:25:19.645 --> 0:25:23.685
<v Speaker 1>and that something wasn't right. Sandra said they told her

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<v Speaker 1>to quote move on from this end quote. She said

0:25:27.485 --> 0:25:30.005
<v Speaker 1>she felt as though she'd done something wrong by investigating,

0:25:30.045 --> 0:25:33.045
<v Speaker 1>like the detectives were angry with her, and unfortunately, this

0:25:33.085 --> 0:25:35.805
<v Speaker 1>is a reaction that we have all seen far too

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<v Speaker 1>often in these kind of cases. She came back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Gailsburg Police Department and had another meeting with the sergeant.

0:25:42.925 --> 0:25:47.565
<v Speaker 1>Sandra said that she was following up on some ATM footage. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>she had found the receipt saying Tyler had withdrawn some

0:25:50.645 --> 0:25:53.885
<v Speaker 1>money from Wells Fargo on the night he went missing.

0:25:54.525 --> 0:25:56.685
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to know if the detective had looked for

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. And if they had, if Tyler had shown

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<v Speaker 1>up on that footage. So Sandra was sitting there when

0:26:04.885 --> 0:26:09.325
<v Speaker 1>the detective played this video, and even though he said

0:26:09.445 --> 0:26:11.645
<v Speaker 1>that he had watched it and that Tyler was not

0:26:11.765 --> 0:26:15.285
<v Speaker 1>on the video, Sandra said she was shocked when about

0:26:15.325 --> 0:26:28.405
<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes in, Tyler showed up on that video. Sandra

0:26:28.725 --> 0:26:31.485
<v Speaker 1>was shocked when she saw that video, the one that

0:26:31.525 --> 0:26:34.125
<v Speaker 1>the police detective insisted that he had seen, and also

0:26:34.245 --> 0:26:35.445
<v Speaker 1>that Tyler was not in.

0:26:36.045 --> 0:26:37.885
<v Speaker 2>The sergeant before he even showed up on the video

0:26:38.005 --> 0:26:39.765
<v Speaker 2>was like what this is literally what he said to me,

0:26:39.805 --> 0:26:41.525
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck do you want from me? Or sonkra ound?

0:26:42.125 --> 0:26:44.645
<v Speaker 2>And I kid you not. Seconds later, Tyler shows up

0:26:44.645 --> 0:26:47.645
<v Speaker 2>on the video where he's supposed to be exact time location.

0:26:47.765 --> 0:26:48.805
<v Speaker 2>I gave him everything.

0:26:50.485 --> 0:26:54.205
<v Speaker 1>Tyler was captured on the Wells Fargo ATM camera at

0:26:54.205 --> 0:26:58.125
<v Speaker 1>ten forty two pm. According to the receipt Sandra had,

0:26:58.365 --> 0:27:02.765
<v Speaker 1>he withdrew one hundred dollars. Again this is a mystery.

0:27:02.765 --> 0:27:05.325
<v Speaker 1>He had been using his debit card at bars all night.

0:27:05.365 --> 0:27:07.365
<v Speaker 1>And you can see if you look at the video

0:27:07.405 --> 0:27:11.245
<v Speaker 1>footage which Sandra has, Tyler has one of those wallets

0:27:11.245 --> 0:27:13.765
<v Speaker 1>that has a money clip on the outside. You can

0:27:13.805 --> 0:27:17.085
<v Speaker 1>see on the money clip he has cash there. So again,

0:27:17.365 --> 0:27:19.325
<v Speaker 1>why at this point in the night is he going

0:27:19.365 --> 0:27:21.645
<v Speaker 1>to get money? Could they have been planning to call

0:27:21.685 --> 0:27:23.485
<v Speaker 1>a cab or were they going to go on to

0:27:23.565 --> 0:27:27.685
<v Speaker 1>another bar or buy something else. Now at this point,

0:27:27.965 --> 0:27:31.605
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to put myself inside Sandra's mind. She's done

0:27:31.685 --> 0:27:34.325
<v Speaker 1>her own detective work. She's fought to get this video

0:27:34.645 --> 0:27:38.205
<v Speaker 1>after finding the receipt of her son going to an ATM.

0:27:38.525 --> 0:27:41.485
<v Speaker 1>They assure her they've got the video, that they've looked

0:27:41.525 --> 0:27:43.845
<v Speaker 1>at it and that her son is not on it.

0:27:43.885 --> 0:27:46.245
<v Speaker 1>And then right there in front of her eyes after

0:27:46.285 --> 0:27:48.325
<v Speaker 1>the detective she claims, got a little bit of an

0:27:48.365 --> 0:27:52.245
<v Speaker 1>attitude with her. She's finally sitting there and sees her

0:27:52.285 --> 0:27:55.485
<v Speaker 1>son on that video. I cannot imagine how it would

0:27:55.485 --> 0:27:58.685
<v Speaker 1>feel at that point. Of course, you're gonna wonder if

0:27:58.725 --> 0:28:01.085
<v Speaker 1>they insisted they had looked at it and he wasn't

0:28:01.085 --> 0:28:03.685
<v Speaker 1>on it, and you find out that's not true, what

0:28:03.805 --> 0:28:06.125
<v Speaker 1>else did they miss did did they look at the

0:28:06.205 --> 0:28:08.605
<v Speaker 1>video and just missed Tyler on it, or did they

0:28:08.765 --> 0:28:12.885
<v Speaker 1>never really look at it at all? Not surprisingly, at

0:28:12.885 --> 0:28:16.285
<v Speaker 1>this point, Sandra explained that her relationship with the police

0:28:16.285 --> 0:28:22.005
<v Speaker 1>department pretty much completely deteriorated. Detectives told Sandra their theory

0:28:22.565 --> 0:28:25.245
<v Speaker 1>that Tyler had been black out drunk and that he drowned.

0:28:25.605 --> 0:28:29.005
<v Speaker 1>Case closed, Sandra went through the process of filing a

0:28:29.005 --> 0:28:33.285
<v Speaker 1>formal complaint. Sandra, along with her family, opened their own

0:28:33.325 --> 0:28:36.285
<v Speaker 1>tip line. They offered a five thousand dollars reward, which

0:28:36.325 --> 0:28:39.565
<v Speaker 1>was eventually raised to ten thousand dollars for any information

0:28:39.685 --> 0:28:42.645
<v Speaker 1>that would help lead to an arrest and conviction. She

0:28:42.725 --> 0:28:46.245
<v Speaker 1>started a Facebook page, Justice for Tyler Smith, which led

0:28:46.245 --> 0:28:50.845
<v Speaker 1>to over twelve thousand followers and hundreds of comments and tips.

0:28:50.885 --> 0:28:53.765
<v Speaker 1>Sandra said that she and her family asked about other

0:28:53.805 --> 0:28:57.405
<v Speaker 1>surveillance videos from other businesses in the area. They were

0:28:57.485 --> 0:29:00.365
<v Speaker 1>heartbroken to learn that a lot of the videos had

0:29:00.405 --> 0:29:04.245
<v Speaker 1>been overridden after around two weeks after Tyler's death, So,

0:29:04.645 --> 0:29:09.965
<v Speaker 1>she says, pull waited too long. Again, this is devastating

0:29:10.005 --> 0:29:12.365
<v Speaker 1>and happens in so many cases, and this, in my opinion,

0:29:12.405 --> 0:29:15.325
<v Speaker 1>is something that should never happen. That surveillance footage should

0:29:15.325 --> 0:29:18.645
<v Speaker 1>have been a requested The next day. Sandra said she

0:29:18.725 --> 0:29:20.925
<v Speaker 1>and her family did not give up. They tried to

0:29:21.005 --> 0:29:24.845
<v Speaker 1>retrace Tyler's steps. They knew he had been seen at

0:29:24.885 --> 0:29:29.605
<v Speaker 1>several establishments around town, including the Cherry Street Bar. They

0:29:29.725 --> 0:29:32.085
<v Speaker 1>talked to the manager, and the manager of Cherry Street

0:29:32.085 --> 0:29:35.565
<v Speaker 1>Bar told law enforcement that Tyler was seen leaving there

0:29:35.765 --> 0:29:39.925
<v Speaker 1>with his friend Evan at around ten thirty. Sandra was

0:29:39.925 --> 0:29:43.205
<v Speaker 1>also trying to figure out under what circumstances Tyler got

0:29:43.205 --> 0:29:47.045
<v Speaker 1>separated from his friends. She said that she asked police

0:29:47.165 --> 0:29:50.925
<v Speaker 1>if they looked for Tyler's friends or their cars separately

0:29:51.085 --> 0:29:54.405
<v Speaker 1>from Tyler in that surveillance footage. She said she was

0:29:54.445 --> 0:29:57.085
<v Speaker 1>shocked when they asked her, why would we do that?

0:29:58.165 --> 0:30:00.845
<v Speaker 1>She said she was further discouraged when she learned that

0:30:00.885 --> 0:30:06.685
<v Speaker 1>police had not contacted many nearby businesses. Casey's on Northwest

0:30:06.685 --> 0:30:10.365
<v Speaker 1>Main Street Now Casey's was very close to where Tyler's

0:30:10.405 --> 0:30:13.485
<v Speaker 1>body was found, and the manager there was willing to

0:30:13.525 --> 0:30:17.085
<v Speaker 1>give Sandra six hours of footage between ten pm on

0:30:17.125 --> 0:30:19.845
<v Speaker 1>the night of the fourteenth and four am the next day,

0:30:19.925 --> 0:30:23.365
<v Speaker 1>September fifteenth. This was the crucial time period when Tyler

0:30:23.405 --> 0:30:27.685
<v Speaker 1>went missing. Sandra said she also saw her son on

0:30:27.765 --> 0:30:32.765
<v Speaker 1>that tape. This was the last video surveillance footage of

0:30:32.845 --> 0:30:35.685
<v Speaker 1>her son alive that we know of. We're going to

0:30:35.765 --> 0:30:37.965
<v Speaker 1>get more into the health app in a minute, because,

0:30:38.005 --> 0:30:41.285
<v Speaker 1>as it turned out, Tyler's phone had a wealth of

0:30:41.325 --> 0:30:44.285
<v Speaker 1>information on it that was not pulled by the police

0:30:44.765 --> 0:30:47.765
<v Speaker 1>and not related to anything involving as GPS. In fact,

0:30:47.845 --> 0:30:50.405
<v Speaker 1>I think this is pretty genius and could have impacts

0:30:50.445 --> 0:30:52.925
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of cases. So I'm going to talk

0:30:52.925 --> 0:30:57.725
<v Speaker 1>about that in a second. Sandra was getting closer. She

0:30:57.845 --> 0:30:59.765
<v Speaker 1>still didn't know what happened to her son, but the

0:30:59.805 --> 0:31:03.645
<v Speaker 1>window of time when it happened was getting smaller and smaller.

0:31:04.765 --> 0:31:07.125
<v Speaker 1>She reached out to other members of the community for help.

0:31:07.685 --> 0:31:10.765
<v Speaker 1>This included Gee Wright with a Missing Person's Awareness network.

0:31:11.285 --> 0:31:16.205
<v Speaker 1>That organization made a Facebook live. In that Facebook live,

0:31:16.325 --> 0:31:19.205
<v Speaker 1>they followed the steps that Tyler took on September fourteenth,

0:31:19.245 --> 0:31:22.165
<v Speaker 1>when he was last seen alive. They released the surveillance

0:31:22.245 --> 0:31:25.085
<v Speaker 1>video from Casey's General Store on Maine and West Streets.

0:31:25.645 --> 0:31:28.965
<v Speaker 1>That footage showed Tyler walking past there toward the direction

0:31:29.045 --> 0:31:32.725
<v Speaker 1>of the canal where his body was found. Sandra said

0:31:32.805 --> 0:31:36.565
<v Speaker 1>she saw something else on that final video of Tyler.

0:31:37.365 --> 0:31:41.485
<v Speaker 1>She saw several cars following her son at around eleven fifty,

0:31:41.925 --> 0:31:46.645
<v Speaker 1>including a police car. Sandra and her family went for

0:31:46.685 --> 0:31:50.045
<v Speaker 1>a meeting on January third, twenty nineteen with the city manager,

0:31:50.205 --> 0:31:53.725
<v Speaker 1>the city attorney, and the chief of police. She said, quote,

0:31:54.205 --> 0:31:56.765
<v Speaker 1>they told us that they failed us and communication could

0:31:56.805 --> 0:31:59.325
<v Speaker 1>have been better and our treatment could have been better.

0:31:59.885 --> 0:32:02.725
<v Speaker 1>They said this had been a learning experience and that

0:32:02.765 --> 0:32:05.165
<v Speaker 1>the investigation was still open and active.

0:32:05.685 --> 0:32:05.925
<v Speaker 2>Quote.

0:32:07.565 --> 0:32:10.525
<v Speaker 1>So Sandra found herself in the limbo in my opinion,

0:32:10.565 --> 0:32:13.685
<v Speaker 1>that so many families go through because police are saying

0:32:13.725 --> 0:32:17.405
<v Speaker 1>the investigation's open and active, but they've told her they

0:32:17.405 --> 0:32:19.885
<v Speaker 1>believe it's an accident, So you have to question how

0:32:19.965 --> 0:32:24.605
<v Speaker 1>much active investigation they're actually doing a few months later,

0:32:25.085 --> 0:32:28.685
<v Speaker 1>Sandra met with an investigator. She was put in touch

0:32:28.805 --> 0:32:32.045
<v Speaker 1>with a retired homicide officer, Mitchell Drake, through a mutual.

0:32:31.725 --> 0:32:36.925
<v Speaker 4>Friend, a friend of mine. He contacted me and he said, listen,

0:32:37.525 --> 0:32:40.925
<v Speaker 4>you know, his wife was an attorney had been contacted

0:32:40.925 --> 0:32:44.205
<v Speaker 4>by a friend of Sandy's. And he goes, you know,

0:32:44.285 --> 0:32:47.685
<v Speaker 4>I don't have the expertise to look into this, but

0:32:48.245 --> 0:32:52.485
<v Speaker 4>from what I've looked at, it seems him like there

0:32:52.565 --> 0:32:57.165
<v Speaker 4>was a really bad job done. And I said, yeah, well,

0:32:57.245 --> 0:33:00.525
<v Speaker 4>you know, my whole thing was was bad things happen

0:33:00.605 --> 0:33:03.565
<v Speaker 4>to good people all the time, and I was just

0:33:03.565 --> 0:33:06.965
<v Speaker 4>just retired and I wasn't really too interested in taking

0:33:07.005 --> 0:33:09.965
<v Speaker 4>on a project. He told me a little bit more

0:33:09.965 --> 0:33:14.285
<v Speaker 4>about it, and we met with Sandy and Keith and gush.

0:33:14.365 --> 0:33:18.125
<v Speaker 4>Within a half hour looking over the stuff that she had,

0:33:18.925 --> 0:33:21.845
<v Speaker 4>I realized that it was a really, really bad investigation.

0:33:22.365 --> 0:33:25.485
<v Speaker 4>I can't even describe how bad the investigation was. I mean,

0:33:25.525 --> 0:33:29.325
<v Speaker 4>it was really really bad. And what amazed me about

0:33:29.365 --> 0:33:31.605
<v Speaker 4>it is, you know, these were the parents of a kid,

0:33:31.725 --> 0:33:36.125
<v Speaker 4>and she had everything. She had the autopsy photos, she had,

0:33:36.165 --> 0:33:40.085
<v Speaker 4>the police report, she had everything. And I told her,

0:33:40.085 --> 0:33:43.605
<v Speaker 4>I said, well, give me the information and I'll get

0:33:43.645 --> 0:33:44.165
<v Speaker 4>back to you.

0:33:44.725 --> 0:33:47.645
<v Speaker 5>And I spent a few days, a couple of weeks

0:33:47.645 --> 0:33:51.245
<v Speaker 5>maybe going over the information she gave me, and the

0:33:51.285 --> 0:33:53.925
<v Speaker 5>more I got into it, the more I realized that,

0:33:54.485 --> 0:33:55.845
<v Speaker 5>you know, they really hadn't got.

0:33:56.445 --> 0:33:59.965
<v Speaker 4>Any investigation to speak of into there, and there was

0:34:00.005 --> 0:34:03.365
<v Speaker 4>a lot of unanswered questions. So I went back and

0:34:03.405 --> 0:34:04.885
<v Speaker 4>I told him I would look into it.

0:34:10.325 --> 0:34:13.045
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell did something that I think was so creative and

0:34:13.165 --> 0:34:16.365
<v Speaker 1>clever and in my opinion, potentially led to a huge

0:34:16.365 --> 0:34:19.965
<v Speaker 1>break in the case. He got Tyler's phone, the one

0:34:20.005 --> 0:34:23.165
<v Speaker 1>that apparently the GPS didn't show a tremendous amount of data,

0:34:23.805 --> 0:34:28.045
<v Speaker 1>and he went into Tyler's health app. That's the app

0:34:28.245 --> 0:34:31.605
<v Speaker 1>that measures how many steps we take per day and

0:34:31.925 --> 0:34:34.885
<v Speaker 1>also the length of steps, the length of the stride,

0:34:34.925 --> 0:34:37.645
<v Speaker 1>which can tell you a lot about how symmetrically a

0:34:37.645 --> 0:34:40.925
<v Speaker 1>person's walking, what their pace is, and lots of other things.

0:34:41.525 --> 0:34:46.845
<v Speaker 1>So Mitchell Drake was literally able to trace how Tyler

0:34:46.885 --> 0:34:50.405
<v Speaker 1>took his last steps. Sandra said, Mitchell Drake talked to

0:34:50.605 --> 0:34:53.765
<v Speaker 1>Robbie and Evan, Tyler's friends. He was a fresh set

0:34:53.805 --> 0:34:56.085
<v Speaker 1>of eyes with a balanced approach, and she felt that's

0:34:56.125 --> 0:34:59.725
<v Speaker 1>what the case needed. Mitchell analyzed the health app data.

0:35:00.405 --> 0:35:03.205
<v Speaker 1>He also walked the area where Tyler's body was found

0:35:03.325 --> 0:35:07.965
<v Speaker 1>many times. According to Mitchell Drake's report, Tyler's body was

0:35:07.965 --> 0:35:12.565
<v Speaker 1>found about nineteen hours after he stopped moving. Tyler Smith

0:35:12.685 --> 0:35:15.005
<v Speaker 1>was last seen at the corner Connection Tavern. This was

0:35:15.045 --> 0:35:19.485
<v Speaker 1>about eleven thirty. He was walking northbound along that road

0:35:19.765 --> 0:35:22.925
<v Speaker 1>right by Casey's General Store. That's at two twenty three

0:35:23.125 --> 0:35:26.925
<v Speaker 1>West Main Street in Galesburg. He was walking along Northwest Street.

0:35:27.725 --> 0:35:31.205
<v Speaker 1>Then that street dead ended at an iron fence. This

0:35:31.245 --> 0:35:33.285
<v Speaker 1>is about two blocks away from the place where he

0:35:33.325 --> 0:35:37.125
<v Speaker 1>was last seen. So what Mitchell Drake did was basically

0:35:37.165 --> 0:35:40.805
<v Speaker 1>break down Tyler's average step length. He figured out from

0:35:40.845 --> 0:35:44.365
<v Speaker 1>eleven twenty to eleven fifty two, Tyler was walking at

0:35:44.405 --> 0:35:47.565
<v Speaker 1>basically an average walking speed. He stopped a couple times

0:35:47.565 --> 0:35:50.085
<v Speaker 1>for around one minute and forty five seconds each. This

0:35:50.125 --> 0:35:52.525
<v Speaker 1>is when he was walking around lost, calling his friends,

0:35:52.725 --> 0:35:57.285
<v Speaker 1>and sending snapchats. In the time period from eleven twenty

0:35:57.325 --> 0:36:01.205
<v Speaker 1>to eleven fifty, so thirty minutes, Tyler walked two thousand,

0:36:01.445 --> 0:36:04.725
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and three feet. But then just before eleven

0:36:04.805 --> 0:36:07.765
<v Speaker 1>fifty one, in what we now know were the last

0:36:07.765 --> 0:36:11.685
<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes of his life, something changed. Something happened.

0:36:12.565 --> 0:36:16.325
<v Speaker 1>At that point, Tyler started taking much larger step links,

0:36:16.845 --> 0:36:21.045
<v Speaker 1>which means, according to Mitchell Drake, Tyler started running. For

0:36:21.125 --> 0:36:23.525
<v Speaker 1>the last four hundred and seventy nine feet, Tyler was

0:36:23.605 --> 0:36:27.765
<v Speaker 1>running at full speed. So why was he running? Did

0:36:27.805 --> 0:36:30.405
<v Speaker 1>he get scared for some reason? Did he see someone

0:36:30.525 --> 0:36:34.845
<v Speaker 1>or something that scared him. Tyler's mom had seen a

0:36:34.885 --> 0:36:38.565
<v Speaker 1>police car pass at eleven fifty. Now, there's no suggestion

0:36:38.845 --> 0:36:41.165
<v Speaker 1>that Tyler had any kind of encounter with the officer,

0:36:41.245 --> 0:36:43.885
<v Speaker 1>but maybe just seeing a police car frightened him for

0:36:43.885 --> 0:36:47.685
<v Speaker 1>some reason. That does seem a little bit logical because

0:36:47.725 --> 0:36:50.325
<v Speaker 1>remember he was literally about to become a police officer.

0:36:51.005 --> 0:36:53.765
<v Speaker 1>But who knows, maybe in his mind somewhere he didn't

0:36:53.805 --> 0:36:56.605
<v Speaker 1>want to get picked up for being intoxicated. This is

0:36:56.645 --> 0:37:00.965
<v Speaker 1>all pure speculation. Mitchell Drake pointed out that there was

0:37:01.005 --> 0:37:04.725
<v Speaker 1>a railroad bed and railroad tracks out there, very rocky

0:37:04.845 --> 0:37:08.925
<v Speaker 1>uneven tern did someone grab Tyler out in the darkness.

0:37:10.805 --> 0:37:13.565
<v Speaker 1>She and Mitchell Drake asked the Illinois State Police to

0:37:13.605 --> 0:37:17.685
<v Speaker 1>do some more investigation, and they were successful because in

0:37:17.725 --> 0:37:21.365
<v Speaker 1>September of twenty twenty, the Illinois State Police Department of

0:37:21.405 --> 0:37:26.245
<v Speaker 1>Criminal Investigations said they become involved and they were able

0:37:26.285 --> 0:37:32.205
<v Speaker 1>to request and get a second autopsy. Sandra said she's

0:37:32.285 --> 0:37:34.765
<v Speaker 1>not totally sure what the state of the investigation is

0:37:34.845 --> 0:37:38.165
<v Speaker 1>right now, but she does believe that police are still

0:37:38.205 --> 0:37:40.365
<v Speaker 1>following up on Leith. We're going to get a lot

0:37:40.405 --> 0:37:42.165
<v Speaker 1>more into it next week. There's a lot more to

0:37:42.205 --> 0:37:46.725
<v Speaker 1>this case, including leeds about a potential white supremacist and

0:37:46.765 --> 0:37:50.965
<v Speaker 1>his friend who were allegedly bragging about beating Tyler up.

0:37:52.205 --> 0:37:55.965
<v Speaker 1>They're also working to decrypt Tyler's phone, and more work

0:37:56.005 --> 0:37:58.445
<v Speaker 1>is apparently being done at a cold case institute in

0:37:58.445 --> 0:38:02.125
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and Sandra says despite her difficulties with the

0:38:02.125 --> 0:38:04.925
<v Speaker 1>police in the past, she is continuing to pass along

0:38:05.005 --> 0:38:08.765
<v Speaker 1>all really of an information to them. Mitchell Drake has

0:38:08.845 --> 0:38:13.045
<v Speaker 1>said that in his opinion, the investigation by the police

0:38:13.125 --> 0:38:16.645
<v Speaker 1>was mismanaged from the very beginning. He said police did

0:38:16.685 --> 0:38:20.405
<v Speaker 1>not follow the proper investigated protocol. He said no crime

0:38:20.445 --> 0:38:24.085
<v Speaker 1>scene technician was sent to the scene, and after they

0:38:24.165 --> 0:38:27.405
<v Speaker 1>pulled the metadata from the photos that were sent of

0:38:27.485 --> 0:38:31.445
<v Speaker 1>the autopsy, Mitchell and Sandra say they figured out that

0:38:31.525 --> 0:38:34.445
<v Speaker 1>autopsy had been done in just thirty one minutes for

0:38:34.565 --> 0:38:37.725
<v Speaker 1>a potential homicide, for the unexplained death of a twenty

0:38:37.725 --> 0:38:40.805
<v Speaker 1>three year old young man with absolutely no health problems.

0:38:41.565 --> 0:38:44.645
<v Speaker 1>Then there were the marks on Tyler's wrists and the

0:38:44.685 --> 0:38:48.765
<v Speaker 1>other injuries on Tyler's face, the fact that Tyler's feet

0:38:48.805 --> 0:38:51.645
<v Speaker 1>were very close to the wall of the canal. Mitchell

0:38:51.685 --> 0:38:54.965
<v Speaker 1>and Sandra both feel that he just couldn't have landed

0:38:54.965 --> 0:38:57.125
<v Speaker 1>that way naturally, And we've already talked about the fact

0:38:57.165 --> 0:39:01.085
<v Speaker 1>that his poems were facing upward. Mitchell said, in addition

0:39:01.125 --> 0:39:04.365
<v Speaker 1>to that, the authorities did not look for DNA underneath

0:39:04.405 --> 0:39:09.165
<v Speaker 1>Tyler's fingernails, which he considers a huge oversight. He said

0:39:09.285 --> 0:39:12.725
<v Speaker 1>that there are marks on Tyler's head, around his wrist,

0:39:12.845 --> 0:39:14.765
<v Speaker 1>and on the back of his hand and on his back,

0:39:15.245 --> 0:39:19.365
<v Speaker 1>many injuries that he said just are not explained. He

0:39:19.565 --> 0:39:23.525
<v Speaker 1>also criticized the first autopsy. He said no X rays

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<v Speaker 1>were taken and that Tyler's neck had not been dissected

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<v Speaker 1>to see if there were injuries there that could have

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<v Speaker 1>contributed to his death. According to Mitchell Drake's report, his

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion is that the most likely explanation is that Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Smith was beaten by persons not yet known, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that beating had directly led to his death. And Mitchell wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>quote he was likely unconscious prior to his final placement

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<v Speaker 1>in Cedar Fort Creek end quote. In July of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Smith's body was exhumed and a second autopsy was performed,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time the results were completely different because the

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<v Speaker 1>second autopsy found that Tyler had not drowned, but that

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<v Speaker 1>he had died directly as a result of catastrophic injuries

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<v Speaker 1>sustained in the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the worst thing in the world. It's literally the

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<v Speaker 2>worst pain you could ever imagine. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 2>just he was a best friend. He just was such

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<v Speaker 2>a good kid, you know, and he was all I

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<v Speaker 2>had and we just were very close. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>know that, you know, I have this gut instinct that

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<v Speaker 2>something was wrong and there's just too many wrongs and

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<v Speaker 2>not enough rates with it, and I just I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>give up.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Sandra believed her son did not accidentally drown.

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<v Speaker 1>The question was did he fall to his death by

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<v Speaker 1>accident or did someone chase him there? Or was he

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<v Speaker 1>as Sandra and Mitchell Drake believe place there? Did he

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<v Speaker 1>fall or did someone push him? And what was he

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<v Speaker 1>running from? I'm Katherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line.

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Gone Murder Line is a production of School of

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<v Speaker 1>Humans and iHeart Podcasts. It's written and narrated by me

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts. Special thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the research assistance provided by Amy Tubbs. Music contributed by

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Sale. Executive producers of Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr, and

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<v Speaker 1>LC Crowley. If you have a case you'd like me

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