1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Aj Hinch is so logical and strategic and like high 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: level poker player with his roster and with the way 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: he manages. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Tiger's broadcaster Fox broadcaster Jason Benetti joining 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: us right now. Good to see you, Bud. Been listening 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: to you a lot lately. You're crushing it, and I 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: have to start here. What the heck's going on? You're 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: calling to the most unique plays I think I've ever seen, 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: and it happens in the last few weeks. 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. The Tiger's season 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: has been overserved, like there's something something has happened to 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the Tigers season. There's insanity every night. There was insanity 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: every night from August on last year. I have no idea, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: and I like, we had just seen a couple innings 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: before the replay of the Abray you won, which was crazy, 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: like great job a Bray you and Rafaela. Zach McKinstry 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: was even shocked. Like if you look at the reactions 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: of Dingler and McKinstry, they're like, what what was that? 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: I did that happen? And they're the ones who did it. 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think that's pretty much a microcosm 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: of what the Tigers have been the last calendar year. 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: All right. By the way, we had this argument because 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: when I text you to come on our show today, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: I said, and you said, you might be in your Uber. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: I'm happy that you're not in your Uber. But do 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 3: you take an Uber Excel, do you take an Uber 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: black or do you take a different Uber that I 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: never heard of, like an Uber van or something. I 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: don't know. 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: I never get black or practice do you think I 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: go to I never practiced alack. I don't know. 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Because we had this with Matthew Boyd and he's like, 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: I might crowds ask if he takes an uber or 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: a taxi. I'm like, nobody takes taxis as the big. 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Leagues now, so uh, you know, just regular Uber, Like 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't need Uber black. I do, like if there's 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the extra two dollars for like, uh lift, like preferred 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: or whatever, because the cars are supposed to be cleaner, 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: and like, I don't like my big pet peeve is 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: getting into an uber or lyft and the person has 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: just recently smoked, like I don't want to smell, like 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I just left Blackjack at the Flamingo. When I get 44 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: in a car and then out of a car, I'm 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: out for that. 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: Hey, I've been in cars with you. That is such 47 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: a lie, dude. That is the that is like the 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: that is like the biggest line, like you don't want 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: a special car like that is such crap because we 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: go what are you talking about? 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Where? 52 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Escalate XL please because that. 53 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Is not true. 54 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: When the shows up in there in their car. Where 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: were you a Baltimore? We were at Botam. Don't tell 56 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: me to complain, no at all. 57 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the deal. Here's the deal in Baltimore. I 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: said to AJ after we got out of the car. 59 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: In Baltimore, I said, first time driving for this guy, 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: because that was not an uber. That was the guy 61 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: that picked us up. Because we were going like six 62 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: miles an hour. The one time up a hill, we 63 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: were literally almost stopped. So it has nothing to do 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: with the size of the car. It had everything to 65 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: do with the idea that the person probably would have 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: been better off starting in a go cart. 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: It was a player. I thought we might have to 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: get out and push because we were Yes, guy, I 69 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: don't know if we're gonna make it up. This ill 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: that's what he said. 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: He said, I don't know if we're going to make it. 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: It was like Glynnstone was driving us. He was using 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: his feet first and then the pedal. 74 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: Uh, by the way, what's lyft? I don't know what 75 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: lift is? 76 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Sorry, lift is an over competitor. Sorry a sponsor. I'm sorry. 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: We don't. 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: We don't. 79 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: Actually now we want now, you definitely want. 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: And I gotta ask you before we before we dig 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: into the Tigers, as you're the Michigan sportscaster of the year, 82 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: reigning champion. 83 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Are you happy? 84 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 3: Are you happy to be the Tigers broadcaster? He still 85 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: wish you were maybe the Rockies or the White Sox broadcaster, 86 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: because I mean, you know they're they're having equally good 87 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: seasons the last couple of years. You know, it's very 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: very similar. 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what that motion is. Yes, I'm very 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: very happy as the Tigers announcer. I will tell you 91 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: that when I walked into rate Field yet, the security 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: guard outside said to me, I was like, hey, White 93 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Sox are better. He goes, at least we're not the Rockies. 94 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I get after it. 95 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: Man, that is true. 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, it is tough though, I mean, you can 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: tell us about this, right because you've been a team 98 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: broadcaster for quite a while now. How much easier is 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: it to do your job when the games are competitive 100 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: and fun versus I'm sure I don't know which years 101 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: you've been through and how tough they are, but I 102 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: know some friends of mine I won't name them in 103 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: the industry who have been part of, you know, teams 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: that went through long tanks, rebuild, whatever, and they're like, 105 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: I love calling games, but this gets tough. One hundred 106 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: and ten plus losses. 107 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, honestly, Like, I did a bunch 108 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: of minor league seasons that were like rough win seasons two, 109 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: and everybody on this show, no, it was like the miners, 110 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: there's even less to play for, So like, I'm kind 111 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: of used to doing seasons that go south. That happened 112 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of the miners for me. The one thing 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: that I would say I think is really cool about 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: this Tigers team as a narrator is that aj Hinch 115 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: is so logical and strategic and like high level poker 116 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: player with his roster and with the way he manages 117 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that I can see after watching him for a while, 118 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: like patterns, but I know that there's there's always a 119 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: point to what he's doing, so I can search out 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the point of what he's doing and try to get there. 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: In terms of personnel, like why is this batter up? 122 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: Why did Andy Ibanyas hit here? Why didn't he hit there? 123 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: What is it about the pitchers? Stuff? Because there's always 124 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: a why and a pretty distinct specific why. So to me, 125 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: it's about more having the logic of somebody in charge 126 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that like really does specifically want certain matchups. That makes 127 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: it a lot easier than when you're guessing. 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes all right, let's go to this roster. Let's go 129 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: to this roster that has been winning the whole year. 130 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 4: And then Wenzel Perez comes back. Oh, and he just 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: comes out banging. Parker Meadows plays in his first game, 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: and what does he do? Oh, it gets a few hits, 133 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: but he also makes a diving play in the third 134 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: most important position on the field in center field. Like 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: you would never look at the Tigers and go they 136 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 4: have tons of depth because in the offseason it was 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 4: like their neck and neck for the Alex Bregman. 138 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: All they got it. They didn't get bragmant. 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: Oh it almost seems like the Tigers are like, piss off. 140 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 3: We didn't even need bragman. We don't need extra depth 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: because we've been winning and. 142 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: Some of these players who have just come back are 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: adding to the team that's already been winning. 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: And they've already played a really tough stretches schedule too. Eric, 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: Like you look, they have like the fourth easiest schedule 146 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: remaining in baseball by win percentage. Maybe it's like sixth 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: as of today, but it's definitely in the bottom third 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: to the league. And you know, Parker Meadows coming back 149 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: improves one thing the Tigers just have not done a 150 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: whole lot of this year. They've been number one in 151 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: baseball and extra bases taken so like first to third, 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: second to home. We've seen Joey Kora just spinning the 153 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: wheel and waving people around. Coming into yesterday, they were 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: dead last in stolen bases. Parker Meadows immediately in Game 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: one steals a base since coming back from injury. And 156 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: then also the outfield defense just got so much better. 157 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned when Seal Perez Riley Green moves to the corner, 158 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: you get Meadows and center. Even though Hobby was great 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: in center field, Parker Meadows is like state of the 160 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: art in center field, So now you can run out 161 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: configurations where there are three center fielders. I think that's 162 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: a huge part of this thing too. So yeah, this 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: is a really scary team that I think probably until 164 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: like ten days ago, still was kind of lurking nationally. 165 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: FT fan by. Now you know, if you're buying selling 166 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: trading collection cards, Arena Club is the spot. We've been 167 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: talking about them all season long. 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Arenaclub dot com 187 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: slash foul, use code foul. 188 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: This team was young, had a young lineup. 189 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: Anytime you have hobby buyers in your lineup, you're not 190 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: really working too many counts. Have you seen the change 191 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: that having a glabor torres who has more walks than 192 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: strikeouts in the lineup? Have you seen how the lineup 193 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: maybe navigates at bats differently from last year where it 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: was chaos in the bullpen and if our pitching doesn't 195 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: do anything, you know, we're not going to win. To 196 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: now a lineup that, to me, I see a difference 197 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: in how they attack at bats. 198 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: I agree, and I think like I think that playoff 199 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: experience last year showed the young guys what it takes 200 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: to succeed, even specifically offensively in the playoffs. I think 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: probably they really believe that their hitters meetings are as 202 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: detailed as can possibly be. I love that picture, by 203 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: the way, that is like the grainiest, most hilarious black 204 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: and white picture ever. That's amazing. That's going to be 205 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Tiger of the Day today on our telecast. I have 206 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: to imagine. But Glabor Torres. AJ Hinch was talking about 207 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: this when we were in Houston. Josh Reddick had stopped by. 208 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: He's doing some print posts for the Astros, and AJ 209 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: was like, man, when we added a guy like Reddick 210 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: or like other quote unquote professional at bats in Houston, 211 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: you could see the impact on the lineup and you 212 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: all know that like you see it. But anecdotally it's true. 213 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: Glaber Torres is a really difficult specifically first inning at 214 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: bat generally, and the Tigers for the balance of this 215 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: season have been at the top of the league in 216 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: pitches seen in the first inning. They made life really 217 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: difficult last night on Jonathan Cannon and then bounced him 218 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: very early from that game. And it's in part because 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: of Glaber's patience and willingness to put together a really 220 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: strong at bat. I'm totally with you Kratz. 221 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: So Jason, what's the kryptonite, what's the fear right now? 222 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: And what will we be talking about over the next 223 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: month and a half come trade deadline time, because yeah, 224 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: I mean, this team's clicking, they've got a great record, 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: they're in a great spot. But of course they're going 226 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: work on things at the trade deadline and try and 227 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: go all further than they did last year. 228 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: What would you do? What's on the wish list? Yeah, 229 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, kryptonite and wish list probably, I 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: would say are a little bit. The fear is injury, right, 231 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: They've they've handled the injury very well so far this year, 232 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: with three center fielders on the ais ale to start 233 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: the year. I think the thing that they would go 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: get if I'm just looking at the numbers and overall 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: picture of the roster, would be swinging miss in the bullpen. Right. 236 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: The bullpen has had a very nice era this year, 237 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: top five. The strikeout rate is not fantastic, So I 238 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: think we have seen enough in the past couple of 239 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: weeks in tiger Land where Cage Smith comes in out 240 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland bullpen and strikes out the side, or 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: like Randy Rodriguez's stuff, or you know whoever, out of 242 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: that San Francisco bullpen that we just saw in Detroit. 243 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: I think swing and miss stuff in the bullpen probably 244 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: would be on the list, and then I think the 245 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: injury thing would be the kryptonite. But you can also, 246 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, before the last day of lie if you 247 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: have an injury, you can settle that at the trade deadline, 248 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I would say number one would be 249 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: swing and miss out of the bullpen that I would 250 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: think that they would really start to think about. 251 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to take us back to the top 252 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: of the conversation because we didn't really dive in too much. 253 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: Did you talk to any of the guys that had 254 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: the pinball place right, because you've called two now, so 255 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: did you talk to McKinstry or Dingler? And then I 256 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: guess the other side was two Red Sox players, so 257 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: maybe less likely, but I mean any aftermath from that, 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: and also how rare it is. I don't know if 259 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: you can even look that up. I know, I think 260 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: on the call yesterday you mentioned, you know, is this 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: the first time ever we got a what two five 262 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: play to play in foul ground to make an out. 263 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was looked up, but anything 264 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: after the fact that you learned about. 265 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Just a very quick text with McKinstry last night. But 266 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: like I once we're in the clubhouse today. I'll get 267 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: you some answers on that, but I like I think 268 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: they were both for sure, for sure, that was my takeaway. 269 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: We tried to look it up, but I don't know 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: that that has ever happened. There were a couple two threes, though, 271 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: like the nineteen eighty World Series. It happened twenty sixteen, 272 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: David Ross to Anthony Rizzo. They both happened on the 273 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: other side of the diamond, catcher to first base. I 274 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: haven't seen any catcher to third base. But we did 275 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: get a substantial amount of tweets of people telling on 276 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: folks who said in their replies, I did it in 277 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Little league. So I'm certain it's happened and people have 278 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: done it, but not in Major League Baseball according to 279 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: what we saw. But no, I haven't talked to him 280 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: at any length. I'm gonna do that today. 281 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: There's a very famous one of me running over Gordon 282 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: Beckham in the Metrodome when he tried to play third 283 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: base catching the ball. Actually, Jason, you'll love this. Gordon's 284 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,479 Speaker 3: grandmother had a picture painted of it of me crippling 285 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Gordon Beckham. Why would she have a picture, I don't know, 286 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: but she made. She it was like a painted picture. 287 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: It was like a portrait of me, like running Beckham 288 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: and I running into each other in the metro. She 289 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: he had to over. He had to hang it over 290 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: like his fireplace in his house because it was a 291 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: grandmother bought of worms. He's like, what am I supposed 292 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: to do with this thing? 293 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Did? What did he say to you? Have to Did 294 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: he say the boys are grinding? Aj the boys are 295 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: grinding grinding. 296 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: I said, Gordon, get off the tracks when the train's 297 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: coming through. Okay, should have caught that, called me off. 298 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I guarantee you he got the worst of that right 299 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: like he was. Did he get flatten into what happened? 300 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: He might have missed a week. I don't know. I 301 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: don't remember he retired now. Wow, God, I didn't say that. 302 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I love Gordon. I love you. 303 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm kidding too. Uh, all right, I got one more 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: for you on these two plays. I'll do the nerdy 305 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: broadcasters side of me, because we do, of course have 306 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: some aspiring broadcasters that watch and listen. How does that 307 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: play out in your brain? I feel like things happened 308 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: differently for different broadcasters. I know there's some broadcasters right 309 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: who try to visualize certain moments, games, playoff, games, whatever, 310 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: and what kind of calls they want to make. Most 311 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: I think don't and they just kind of flow. In 312 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: this case, you don't know what's happening at all to 313 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: any extent. So how does that play out in your brain? 314 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: If you can try to give me play by play of. 315 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: The brain while this is happening, Yeah, you know it's 316 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: it's a good question. The first thing that I would 317 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: say is, once you do a bunch of games, you 318 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: know that you can call to play if it's routine, right, 319 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: You know that, like if it's a pop up, he's 320 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: either going to catch it or he isn't, so you're 321 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: ready for that. So I think the thing that's changed 322 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: for me over the last handful of years five six years, 323 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: as I've done more and more major League baseball is 324 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of waiting for the oddity and ready for it. 325 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Not that I'm like expecting it in any way, shape 326 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: or form, because I'm certainly not. But he's either going 327 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: to catch it or he's not. So like you have that, 328 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: it's all about watching this play this moment, and so 329 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I think you just react as a human being, like 330 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: my call last night. I don't know that anybody's gonna say, 331 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: like in broadcasting school, be like no, no, no, no, no, 332 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: what waite what? But that's what ran through my head, 333 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: is like not again, right, like we what are we 334 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: going to keep having these sorts of plays? And he 335 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: just pinned it to his leg and I was I 336 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: was just shocked more than anything. And then it's like, Okay, 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: what did that look like to me? And you know, 338 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: I try to analogize or like whatever pops in my mind. 339 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't really have an enormous filter, as people will know, 340 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: so like if it pops in my mind, I'm probably 341 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: gonna say it. 342 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Jason, by the way, you're pretty funny. I think you're funny. 343 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: What I just want to know this, did you realize 344 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: back in what was it? What year were you in 345 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: double A with that Fox would hire Joe Davis, You 346 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: and Adam, I mean all of you guys. One of 347 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: you's in Montgomery, one of you was in wherever? I 348 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: mean all three weren't you guys, all three in the 349 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: Southern League at the same time doing or around the 350 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: same time and something like that. 351 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in the miners altogether. I don't think 352 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: ever in the same league. Joe was in the Southern League. 353 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: Adam was doing like Indie or he was doing double 354 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: A in the I think like the East Coast maybe 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: or something like the Summerset Patriots that they were Indie Bough. 356 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: And then I was in Salem, Virginia with an Astro's team. 357 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Uh you know, you ever seen Borat where Borat goes 358 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: to the rodeo That was in our parking lot. So 359 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: it was awesome. I love Salem, Virginia. It's a great place. 360 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: The rodeo is actually in that parking lot. So that's 361 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: actually true. Uh but yeah, no, it's it's nuts. It's 362 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: honestly nuts. Like it's it's I wish more minor league 363 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: announcers would get a chance in the majors because I 364 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: think there is a lot to having called a bunch 365 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: of games, like I will tell you I'm not nearly 366 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: as ready for plays like that like we've seen if 367 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: I haven't done a ton of games where I've made 368 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: mistakes like you get to in the miners. Yeah, that's 369 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: good call. 370 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: Awesome. By the way, you eat more than any of 371 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: those guys combined. Just so just throwing it out there. 372 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: He throws down. 373 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: Oh this hamster. 374 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: Once this hamster stops running in the wheel, I'm going 375 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: to be four hundred pounds. Oh my metabolism is saving 376 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: my life right now. 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: Hey, enjoy it while you got it. 378 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: And by the way, props to whatever Fox executive is 379 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: the scout that goes to those minor league games and 380 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: he's like, I think we got a guy. 381 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: We got a guy. Keep him on the radar. 382 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: Seriously five years. 383 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: That's what they do with analysts too. That's how they 384 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: do it with analysts too. They go and why they 385 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: look for the most irascible catcher they can find, and 386 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: they're like, that guy's gonna be awesome. Yeah, I can 387 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: confirm that's real. 388 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: Right. 389 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: Like when I worked at MLB, we would talk to 390 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: guys sometimes and be like maybe maybe future broadcaster. Yeah 391 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: that was a big conversation. We'd be like, this guy 392 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: might have it. Uh, Jason, great stuff man, Great to 393 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: catch up. Good to see you. Enjoy the rest of 394 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: the series. 395 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: We'll catch you down the line. 396 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Thanks guys.