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Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, November twenty six, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 4: episode number seventy five.
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Speaker 2: Every cheer?
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the cheers fault. I think
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Speaker 2: Get into this thing.
Speaker 4: We uh, We're gonna talk first about uh some interesting
Speaker 4: comments that mister Jones had this morning on Sean On
Speaker 4: with Sean RJ and Bobby on one O five dot
Speaker 4: three the fan here locally. Uh, then we'll get an
Speaker 4: injury update. It is a massive injury report, but part
Speaker 4: of that is also a short week, and so they
Speaker 4: list a lot of guys, as Jerry even said this morning,
Speaker 4: lists a lot of guys that maybe if you had
Speaker 4: a regular schedule this week hit playing on Sunday. Some
Speaker 4: of these guys may not even make the injury report.
Speaker 4: But we'll talk about that as well, and then we'll
Speaker 4: get into the New York offense.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think pretty much the whole conversation is gonna come
Speaker 4: down to one Tommy DeVito. But we'll talk about that
Speaker 4: when we get into it. Let's start first with comment
Speaker 4: Jerry made this morning that I think was pretty interesting
Speaker 4: for me, at least. He was talking about the con
Speaker 4: He was asked about tanking and his thoughts on tanking, and.
Speaker 2: He went to this whole thing about it.
Speaker 4: He talked a little bit about how coaches care about
Speaker 4: their win loss record and players care about winning, and
Speaker 4: he said, you know, the game's too important. Winning is
Speaker 4: too important, and he threw this in It wasn't to
Speaker 4: this question, it was another question, but he ended it
Speaker 4: with this thing isn't over, which leads everybody to think
Speaker 4: that in the back of his mind he still thinks
Speaker 4: at four and seven, there is a chance there's a
Speaker 4: chance that the Cowboys can get on a roll here
Speaker 4: and actually make something of this season.
Speaker 2: My question for you guys is, at four.
Speaker 4: And seven, with favorable matchups over the next four weeks,
Speaker 4: do you think Dallas can actually work themselves back into
Speaker 4: contention for a wildcard spot.
Speaker 5: I don't. I it's a five percent chance according to
Speaker 5: NFL Next ten stats that that they squeak into the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And I was breaking down like the ESPN playoff model
Speaker 5: yesterday and what exactly they would need. They would basically
Speaker 5: need to win out and every team that has I
Speaker 5: did it as like every team that has the better
Speaker 5: record in every matchup across the NFL for the rest
Speaker 5: of the for the rest of the year, I put
Speaker 5: them as the winner and I get the tiebreaker to
Speaker 5: a home team. They make the playoff in that scenario.
Speaker 2: So so every team ahead of them has to lose out.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, Every other game that does not involve the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: I put the winner as the team that has the
Speaker 5: best record currently. That makes sense, and if the teams
Speaker 5: have the same record, then I put the home team.
Speaker 5: I just have the tiebreak of the home team. I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, let me figure out if they don't
Speaker 5: make it.
Speaker 2: They do make.
Speaker 5: It in that scenario as the seventh seed, but if
Speaker 5: they even lose just one game.
Speaker 4: So it really is on them because the what you're
Speaker 4: saying that you're actually giving difference to the better team
Speaker 4: and all the matchups. Yes, and you're just saying that
Speaker 4: basically it really relies on Dallas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this sounds crazy. Dallas winning out.
Speaker 4: Essentially, that would be eight games straight, seven games seven straight,
Speaker 4: seven games straight, a seven game win streak to be
Speaker 4: able to finish the season.
Speaker 2: And under that scenario they could get in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at ten and seven, they'd be the seventh seed,
Speaker 5: and I believe that they would be trying going to
Speaker 5: Green Bay, which is funny.
Speaker 4: I didn't think the odds would actually be that good
Speaker 4: like that actually seemed like that was not a other
Speaker 4: than Cowboys obviously winning out Like that's hard to do.
Speaker 4: I don't care who you're playing that's hard to win
Speaker 4: seven games in a row in the NFL, But just
Speaker 4: looking at from everybody else's standpoint, that actually is.
Speaker 3: Hard to quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Jack, you probably would feel a little bit.
Speaker 3: Better about it. That's I mean, they weren't playing great
Speaker 3: with him, but you know, yeah, that's uh, Listen, you
Speaker 3: know there there are too many days now if you
Speaker 3: you lost to the Saints, who are awful right now,
Speaker 3: you know, Atlanta doesn't look like the same team. They're
Speaker 3: six and five. You know, you had some you know,
Speaker 3: the Ravens, you can understand, the Eagles, you can understand.
Speaker 3: You know, there's been some games where you know, look
Speaker 3: at San Francisco now, you know, look at their situation.
Speaker 3: I mean it's you just you just you allowed too
Speaker 3: many things to get away from you early in this season,
Speaker 3: you know, and yeah, there are a possibility. Sure can
Speaker 3: they win these games? Yeah, sure they can. But I
Speaker 3: I feel like though, to me, they just there were
Speaker 3: so many losses early and bad ones, some bad losses
Speaker 3: that that you know, you are what you are and
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, is or hope you know, you did
Speaker 3: beat the team that is currently the seventh seed right now, right,
Speaker 3: Commanders so yeah, I'm with Nick. I I just don't
Speaker 3: see it. I could see I could see a few
Speaker 3: more wins along the way, but I could also see
Speaker 3: some a few more losses as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's obviously highly unlikely based on everything that they've
Speaker 6: presented this season so far. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: I mean, there's always a chance until there's not. And
Speaker 6: I wouldn't expect Jerry to come on the radio or
Speaker 6: anywhere and say otherwise, like, you're still gonna fight as
Speaker 6: much as you can. And I and people they I've
Speaker 6: heard fans and send me messages like, oh, but you
Speaker 6: don't want them to tank? Is like asking like that
Speaker 6: you should be wanting to tank the season to get
Speaker 6: a better draft pick. But there's no way if you're
Speaker 6: a real fan, or if you're coaching or playing or
Speaker 6: the general manager, there's no way. You get to a
Speaker 6: game and you don't want every part of you to
Speaker 6: have them win. Like, I get it. We can sit here,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, draft picks, but then once we're in the
Speaker 6: game watching the game, you're like, no, come on, Like
Speaker 6: you get into it and you want to get that
Speaker 6: win and it's exciting, and that's what the game is
Speaker 6: all about so, I think all of that mentality of
Speaker 6: draft and position goes out the window once you're in
Speaker 6: it and live in the game in the presence. So
Speaker 6: it's just it's hard for you to convince the whole
Speaker 6: team to be like, hey, guys, yeah, let's let's let's
Speaker 6: lose this game.
Speaker 5: Let's go out there.
Speaker 3: We're heavy underdogs against the Commanders. Yeah, he heavy under
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you we've talked about this. They
Speaker 3: don't need to tank. They're naturally they've got some deficiency. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they naturally try and give games away. They've given away
Speaker 3: some games this year, you know, so you don't have
Speaker 3: to tank. But you guys are right, you've guys, everybody's
Speaker 3: done this long enough. It's it's hard to come in
Speaker 3: this building every week and not try and win. It's hard.
Speaker 3: It's like Mickey there for a minute, but it just is.
Speaker 3: It's hard. But you know, to me, like I said,
Speaker 3: I you know, Jerry's right, the drafting position will be
Speaker 3: what it is and you'll make do of it. And
Speaker 3: he said, hey, the players we want will be there,
Speaker 3: and you know he's he's going to be right about that.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you would you like to have high
Speaker 3: picks throughout the thing. Yeah, but not at the cost
Speaker 3: of being damn miserable every damn week. It's different when
Speaker 3: you work in this building there, you go different. It's different.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've experienced it from both ends. I've been
Speaker 3: you know, five and eleven, three straight years. God dang,
Speaker 3: I would have I almost said what I would have
Speaker 3: done if you know, just to get a win. Derek,
Speaker 3: you're a part of that. You saw that. It's miserable
Speaker 3: around here, folks. This is no fun. This is not
Speaker 3: a fun place. When you lose, you know, imagine going
Speaker 3: to your job every day and somebody telling you you're
Speaker 3: not worth a damn you know, this is hard. And
Speaker 3: when you win, you get a breath, get you get
Speaker 3: to live again, you know. George Allen, the old Washington
Speaker 3: at the time Redskins coach, said, when you lose, a
Speaker 3: little piece of you dies. You die when you lose here,
Speaker 3: you know, And and that's a problem. And I could
Speaker 3: see why, you know, trust me, it's not just the Joneses.
Speaker 3: It's Derek Eagleton, it's Amber Garcia, it's Nick Eatman, it's
Speaker 3: everybody that works in this building. They die a little
Speaker 3: bit when they lose.
Speaker 6: I must say that some most Cowways content has been
Speaker 6: popping since yesterday.
Speaker 5: So it's good.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 6: They win as good. Yes, it's a different vibe, it's
Speaker 6: a different field.
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen, this thing was on a run, a eleven
Speaker 3: straight game run. It went Giants loss and then a
Speaker 3: Giant's loss, which was really strange that year. But I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just the energy that you feel, you know,
Speaker 3: and you get and yeah, you know you want the
Speaker 3: best draft position, absolutely you do, but not at the
Speaker 3: car feeling like crap every week you work here. It
Speaker 3: doesn't work that way. Seriously, folks, if you were part
Speaker 3: of this, you would understand it. It sucks. Everything about
Speaker 3: it sucks. And that's why when people argue with me
Speaker 3: about well man, you go to take no, you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't five and eleven three straight years. No, I
Speaker 3: won a super Bowl. That's the greatest, one of the
Speaker 3: greatest other than my son being born. It's one of
Speaker 3: the greatest feelings I've ever had in my life, being
Speaker 3: five eleven straight, three straight years when I'm from Dallas,
Speaker 3: Texas and watching my friends go what are you doing
Speaker 3: over there? To be honest, with you. I really don't
Speaker 3: know you know that. I mean, that's that's the kind
Speaker 3: of crap you go through. And so yes, everybody gets
Speaker 3: to breathe a little bit this week.
Speaker 4: And that's the honest part of it, Brian, that literally
Speaker 4: you can't No, it's true, but you can't escape it.
Speaker 4: That's the point when when things are going bad and
Speaker 4: really bad, you can't escape it.
Speaker 2: Everywhere you go.
Speaker 4: You go to your kids school, you go to the harborshop,
Speaker 4: you go to the grocery store, you happen to be
Speaker 4: wearing some cowboys gear, which we.
Speaker 2: Have plenty of because they always are giving us stuff.
Speaker 4: And somebody asks, yeah, absolutely, and but it's just like
Speaker 4: it's you can't escape it. So it's it's nice when
Speaker 4: I know on the plane afterwards there.
Speaker 3: Were lots and we're smiling, Nick smiling, everybody's smiling. After
Speaker 3: a win.
Speaker 2: After a loss, everybody's grumpy and it's not fun. It's
Speaker 2: like you work here.
Speaker 4: Part of why people work here, I think is because
Speaker 4: it is a fun environment. It is cool being around
Speaker 4: the team and actually being able to partake in this.
Speaker 2: When it's when it's losing, it ain't fun.
Speaker 3: No, this would be fun. This would be one of
Speaker 3: the best gigs in the world if you didn't have
Speaker 3: to play games. Yeah, or they don't know, if they
Speaker 3: just said, hey, listen, we're gonna play, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: team on paper, you're gonna draft sign guys, and oh
Speaker 3: you had the best paper team. Okay, Now we go
Speaker 3: to the off season when here we go, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's where I'm kind of like, got young visitors
Speaker 3: outside here today is okay, this is.
Speaker 4: What happens these days when it's Thanksgiving holidays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got we got guests that come to visit us.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh look Diego, Mister Diego is a part of the.
Speaker 5: Show that the most handsome man on the planet.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But see, that's what I'm saying though. I just
Speaker 3: that I just know from my personal feeling of working here,
Speaker 3: and I can understand it, and like people are like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: you need I work on you and I we work
Speaker 3: on the draft so hard, better drafting position. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: But it's okay. Wherever they say we're gonna pick, we'll
Speaker 3: find players, right, We'll pick. We'll pick every the first round,
Speaker 3: the second round. We'll give away that fourth round pick
Speaker 3: because we sometimes we don't care about that fourth round pick.
Speaker 3: But here we are. You know, we'll draft wherever that
Speaker 3: position is. You'll figure it out.
Speaker 5: I'll take you where they won't draft's twenty four so
Speaker 5: or twenty nine, wherever they drafted last year, and then
Speaker 5: trade it back to you know, you have a better place.
Speaker 3: They failed that thing out of it like they did
Speaker 3: Travis Frederick that one.
Speaker 4: For me, this feels like a little bit like Christmas
Speaker 4: used to feel when I was younger. You get to
Speaker 4: dream a little bit. Right now, they're still in it,
Speaker 4: so you could dream a little bit and not as
Speaker 4: crazy as it may sound, that they could get on
Speaker 4: a run and go seven in a row and win
Speaker 4: seven in a row and everything works out to where
Speaker 4: you have this magical run. It's still magically and in
Speaker 4: this time of the year, this is when you can
Speaker 4: allow yourself to just dream of the magical.
Speaker 6: It's something crazy like that happens. It would be the
Speaker 6: best documentary we.
Speaker 2: Ever because this is crazy ever made.
Speaker 6: Because everything that has happened this season, and if it
Speaker 6: was to be an optom like that, it would be insane.
Speaker 4: Just for the record, we were making a list of
Speaker 4: all the crazy things that have happened this season, because
Speaker 4: that's a documentary in and of itself. But if they
Speaker 4: should turn it around and actually get a run, yeah,
Speaker 4: that that would.
Speaker 3: Break our dreams. Also died on the Thanksgiving if you
Speaker 3: remember that, right, I gotta win at the Dolphins point.
Speaker 3: That is the point the Dolphins. He got a Dan Campbell,
Speaker 3: I think, interim coach to the Dolphins, Rainy stay, you know,
Speaker 3: and then it got hotter than all standing down there,
Speaker 3: get a victory, Romo plays, then Thanksgiving comes around, and
Speaker 3: then Romo's laying on the field injured that time, and
Speaker 3: then our dreams died.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we we've seen about death a lot today.
Speaker 3: It's sports death, all right, Sports death. Yeah, let's clear
Speaker 3: that up, Yeah, George Allen, sports death. All right.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit about these injuries and then
Speaker 4: get into some of the New York Giant offense.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get into some injuries we've got. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna run down ten names here, because that list is long.
Speaker 4: I got ten I picked out that I think are
Speaker 4: most consequential. I'm just gonna run down there and you
Speaker 4: tell me what's going on with him. Austin Richards did
Speaker 4: not practice ankle.
Speaker 5: Yes, so he was wearing a boot yesterday whenever media
Speaker 5: walked into the locker room. It looks like this is
Speaker 5: going to be an issue that keeps him out for
Speaker 5: at least a couple of weeks, so certainly going to
Speaker 5: miss Thanksgiving, and it's gonna I think he'd be hard
Speaker 5: pressed to play against Cincinnati, which is which is unfortunate,
Speaker 5: just because he's been rotating in with Tyler Guiden. It
Speaker 5: looked like he had finally carved a role for himself.
Speaker 5: And then now this high ankle is popped up, and
Speaker 5: we've seen how long high ankles can nag on. We
Speaker 5: saw with Micah Parsons that ended up being a lot
Speaker 5: longer than expected initially. So that's that's the word right now.
Speaker 5: But not playing there a.
Speaker 3: Doga in that spot now then, but works back in
Speaker 3: now do you continue to rotate even with the doga?
Speaker 3: You just yeah, maybe maybe they found something by rotating
Speaker 3: with Guidon in a tackle on either tackle.
Speaker 5: I don't think that was necessarily by plan. I don't
Speaker 5: think Whenever the penalties got out of hand in the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, Okay, then that's when awesome started to pick up.
Speaker 3: The whole issue. Line up a little close to the line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, picture, there's not huge green grass in between. He's
Speaker 5: not a slot tackle, right, But.
Speaker 2: Richards play this last week I thought.
Speaker 5: From Austin Richards. Richard Richards, I thought was fine. He
Speaker 5: only had I think it was fourteen past block snap,
Speaker 5: so he didn't have a ton of opportunities. But he
Speaker 5: was clean. I thought he was cleaner than when he
Speaker 5: started a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: So he's like the old Molly Hatchett song Flirting with Disaster.
Speaker 3: That's a song back but back in the day. It okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's good. The name of the song flirt and look
Speaker 3: it up, flirting with Disaster. It kind of describes how
Speaker 3: he flirts with disaster every once in a while.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like and then he you know, and
Speaker 3: then he balls away kind of a thing. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he he plays on his feet and you know,
Speaker 3: he's able to kind of work guys past the quarterback
Speaker 3: and when he's asked to make a cutoff block, he
Speaker 3: can get it. But man, I mean, he's he has
Speaker 3: not been a liability out there when he's been asked to.
Speaker 2: Play Cooper Rush limited with a knee.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
Speaker 5: So Mike McCarthy was asked about this yesterday in the
Speaker 5: press conference and he said he had just gotten back
Speaker 5: from seeing Cooper. They're just gonna take it slow with
Speaker 5: him this week, but it doesn't look to be anything
Speaker 5: too serious. But it is noted that he was limited
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs missed last week with he's limited yesterday with
Speaker 4: groin and knee.
Speaker 2: What's up with him.
Speaker 5: It's trending in the right direction. Uh, it got back
Speaker 5: on the practice field yesterday, so that was that was
Speaker 5: a big step in the right direction. My anticipation is
Speaker 5: that he will play on Thursday from the conversations I've had,
Speaker 5: but uh, they're gonna take it slowly. There's a reason why,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure it'll be in kind of the answer
Speaker 5: I give for one of the guys you ask about
Speaker 5: here soon.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, nice little tease, all right. Tyler Smith limited ankle, knee.
Speaker 5: Sounds like he's gonna be able to go on Thursday.
Speaker 5: Being able to get that rest over the weekend, not
Speaker 5: only not playing, but just kind of taking it easy
Speaker 5: and being overall off the field, it allowed him to
Speaker 5: heal up. So he was able to get back on
Speaker 5: the practice field Monday, which I think was a little
Speaker 5: bit better than some could have expected. All right.
Speaker 2: Eric Hendricks did not participate with groin and shoulder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I say that that's probably the one we need
Speaker 5: to ask about. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the only guy
Speaker 5: I don't have something for right here.
Speaker 2: All right, and that week we.
Speaker 3: Could me let me say, we'll ask him how he feels.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't give a really long answer, then he's
Speaker 3: probably not gonna play.
Speaker 2: If he.
Speaker 3: Gives you, if he gives you a gloss answer, then yeah,
Speaker 3: but we have him on at five o'clock.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think we've been full quite a bit this season
Speaker 6: with some of these guys that we were expecting.
Speaker 3: To come back and then they digs.
Speaker 2: Was a surprise when last oh yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even.
Speaker 2: I was expecting Tyler to play.
Speaker 3: But all right.
Speaker 2: Marshawn Neeland did not participate with the knee.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just battling soreness. It was his first game back
Speaker 5: after being brought off ir it was. It was I
Speaker 5: think it was a scheduled d n P yesterday, So
Speaker 5: just battling some soreness off that knee.
Speaker 2: Zach Martin did not practice ankle and shoulder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, also looking like he will not play on Thursday.
Speaker 5: Looks like they're hoping to get him back in time
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: All right, Jake Ferguson did not participate with a concussion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, still in the protocol. Not expected to play on
Speaker 5: Thursday as of now.
Speaker 2: Ceedee lamb limited.
Speaker 5: Yeah, still good. Just battling some soreness again with him
Speaker 5: as well. It's he's been battling that foot all year,
Speaker 5: it feels like so uh and now that back has
Speaker 5: started to creep in the last couple of weeks. This
Speaker 5: is just a guy who's asked been asked to do
Speaker 5: a whole lot in these last few weeks. And uhs
Speaker 5: he's taking the bruises as a respult.
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks limited with an.
Speaker 5: So this is what I'm talking about. So Brandon Cooks
Speaker 5: was scheduled to play last week, all throughout the week,
Speaker 5: and there was even packages included for him in the
Speaker 5: offensive game plan throughout practice. Last week got to Friday
Speaker 5: and he was experiencing a little bit more soreness than expected,
Speaker 5: and so they went ahead and shut him down for
Speaker 5: the weekend. But that decision did not come until Friday.
Speaker 3: The region.
Speaker 5: The reason I had mentioned Trayvon Diggs a little bit earlier.
Speaker 5: Is just because it's going good right now, but it
Speaker 5: could it could be a Wednesday thing where things are
Speaker 5: not going good and he could be pulled. That's why
Speaker 5: I mentioned that. But as of right now, Cooks, Cooks
Speaker 5: should be ready to go by Thursday. That's if he
Speaker 5: stays on track.
Speaker 3: Awesome. Do they have to activate him? Is he is?
Speaker 3: He does have to be activated, somebody has to come off.
Speaker 5: Somebody would have to come off, or somebody else would
Speaker 5: have to go on ir I if it depends what
Speaker 5: the testing is around Awesome Richards. If they expect that
Speaker 5: to be at least a four game more deal, then
Speaker 5: that would probably be the easy move. But then you'd lose.
Speaker 5: You basically lose Awesome Richards for the rest of the season.
Speaker 4: But I've never heard of a high ankle that didn't
Speaker 4: take more than two weeks hi straight damn much more
Speaker 4: than that, you know, But yeah, I mean gone the
Speaker 4: time you hear that, you're thinking four to six weeks
Speaker 4: at the very least.
Speaker 3: When the trainer immediately goes high and then you go no,
Speaker 3: like high and they go no high ankle spring.
Speaker 5: You know, and you're like not.
Speaker 2: But who knows.
Speaker 4: Obviously they got to do more testing and figure that
Speaker 4: part out. But that could be, I guess, part of
Speaker 4: it if they get to that point.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Giants offense. And as I started
Speaker 4: kind of looking at everything around them, it seems like
Speaker 4: everything's about Tommy DeVito. Whatever they're going to be able
Speaker 4: to do or not do will be about Tommy DeVito
Speaker 4: stopping Brian So I just you know, I thought about
Speaker 4: I thought about that great story you tell about when
Speaker 4: Parcels sent those tickets put a gun on hilarious.
Speaker 3: I went to that was my mann Manny and those guys.
Speaker 2: Man you ever keep you ever you ever reached out
Speaker 2: to Manny, you don't keep going.
Speaker 3: I want him on documentaries everywhere.
Speaker 5: You tell that story on air? Is that a story
Speaker 5: we can tell you?
Speaker 2: That's brian Us.
Speaker 3: You can talking about the Giants.
Speaker 4: I'll come back, all right, Tommy Davito, all right, tell
Speaker 4: me what Tommy DeVito does well and what where he struggles?
Speaker 5: You got something in mind for Tommy d You you
Speaker 5: take Tommy d I'll take Tyrone Tracy.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, thank you, they got you know, I'll say
Speaker 3: this about with the thing with Tommy DeVito is they've
Speaker 3: they've really had a problem with their offensive line. And
Speaker 3: I and I say that because of what happens with
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, and you go back and watch all the sacks.
Speaker 3: These quarterbacks hold the ball, and so what happens is
Speaker 3: this offensive line gives up a lot of pressures, they
Speaker 3: give up sacks. They've had a revolving door now at
Speaker 3: left tackle has been a problem. They've had to move
Speaker 3: the right tackle left tackle now back from left tackle
Speaker 3: to right tackle. It's really been a big issue for them.
Speaker 3: But with with Tommy DeVito, the thing about him is
Speaker 3: though he can be accurate throwing the football, and he
Speaker 3: can't be accurate throwing it not so much in the
Speaker 3: middle of the field, but things like in the fly,
Speaker 3: the hitches and things like that. So you know what
Speaker 3: you have to be have to be mindflow is that
Speaker 3: he is going to try and get the ball out quick.
Speaker 3: Does he always have success doing it? No, he does it,
Speaker 3: and when he holds it then that's when he gets
Speaker 3: in some problems there. They've really really struggled Elik Neighbors
Speaker 3: last week was you know he was adamant. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was hot. This is going to be the Malik
Speaker 3: Neighbors show. This is going to be Brian Day Ball
Speaker 3: and and and uh Mike Kafka the o c here
Speaker 3: they're going to if they as they throw the football
Speaker 3: with Tommy DeVito, it is every I have a feeling
Speaker 3: that every single pass is going to go in the
Speaker 3: direction of Elite Neighbors. They're going to live or die
Speaker 3: by him playing in this.
Speaker 2: Game because they got to make sure he knows.
Speaker 3: And you know what, he is absolutely right. He is
Speaker 3: their best player. Now. I will say this, though, You're
Speaker 3: right about Tracy because when we went when we played
Speaker 3: the first time around here, it was single Singletary was
Speaker 3: the lead back. Tracy was kind of the back that
Speaker 3: those roles have flip now. But the thing about de
Speaker 3: Vido though, is that it's it's the shots down the
Speaker 3: field are probably not going to be accurate, The shots
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field probably not going to
Speaker 3: be accurate. But everything to like the outsides and like
Speaker 3: the little just the little quick passes, the hitches, the
Speaker 3: outs and things like that, the swings, the flats, that's
Speaker 3: kind of where he wants to throw the football.
Speaker 2: Now is he is he better than Daniel Jones? The
Speaker 2: same guy Jones.
Speaker 3: They have both court mean you, I sat there and
Speaker 3: watched Daniel Jones take sack after sack just because I
Speaker 3: was curious, like, is it the offensive line is the quarterback?
Speaker 3: These dudes will hold the ball. I mean, now, okay,
Speaker 3: they've got guys that can get open. Neighbors can get open.
Speaker 3: He hadn't play. I mean he's had some times. He
Speaker 3: got hurt in that Dallas game and missed some games. Neighbors,
Speaker 3: Slayton Robinson. They've got guys that can catch the foot.
Speaker 3: You know, They've got guys the tight end, Theo Johnson
Speaker 3: can catch the football. So I think a lot of
Speaker 3: it has to do with how bad their line's played.
Speaker 3: But man, it's been a struggle for these quarterbacks just
Speaker 3: to get the ball out of their hands, you know,
Speaker 3: to find guys and you watch it on the you
Speaker 3: watch the sideline cop and you're like, guys open th
Speaker 3: throw the ball, throw it. So I I think I
Speaker 3: think a lot of it has to do with the line.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks holding the ball. But I guarantee you, neighbors,
Speaker 3: I think I think went and played a game against
Speaker 3: the Giants one time, where he had like eighteen targets.
Speaker 3: I could see this. I could see the same thing
Speaker 3: with elite neighbors in this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Molie Neighbors would used to talk about him
Speaker 5: being Adam and he had some words to say to
Speaker 5: the media after their loss to the Buccaneers on Sunday
Speaker 5: about yeah, yeah, yeah, about his unuse in the offense.
Speaker 5: I guess you could say, I'll speak about this offense
Speaker 5: as a hole and then I'll dive into Tracy. There's
Speaker 5: enough desperation on the offensive side of the ball at
Speaker 5: the Giants where it should concern Cowboys fans.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: You look at a quarterback who is getting a rare
Speaker 5: second opportunity to win a starting job, and he shouldn't
Speaker 5: really be having that opportunity. In our opinion, it.
Speaker 3: Muld be Drew Locke.
Speaker 5: You have a offensive play collar slash head coach who
Speaker 5: going into a ten day break could be looking at
Speaker 5: this situation and being like, Hey, if we don't perform here,
Speaker 5: I could be out of a job come Monday. And
Speaker 5: then you have an offensive line that is starting to
Speaker 5: get healthier. Evan Neil's comeback. He's played well in his
Speaker 5: first couple of games back. I think this protection unit
Speaker 5: is playing a little bit better in the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks. I think you have all of that in
Speaker 5: elite neighbors as well. I think there's a desperation to
Speaker 5: get him targets. There's enough desperation that I think it
Speaker 5: should concern you. I'll dive into Tyrone Tracy. As you mentioned,
Speaker 5: Devin Singletary was the starter for the last time these
Speaker 5: two teams played up at MetLife. The very next week,
Speaker 5: they turned to Tracy. At that moment, they were thirtieth
Speaker 5: in the NFL in total rushing. They were averaging eighty
Speaker 5: five yards per game. They couldn't sustain drives for anything.
Speaker 5: Singletary was just not the guy, and Dave Ball had
Speaker 5: seen his offense only put together twenty six yards on
Speaker 5: the ground against that Cowboys rush defense that had given
Speaker 5: up five hundred and fifty seven in the first three games.
Speaker 5: They turned to the rookie Tyrone Tracy. He's a rookie
Speaker 5: out of Purdue, played receiver for his first two or
Speaker 5: three years with the boiler Makers and then made the
Speaker 5: switch to running back for his last season and played
Speaker 5: really well earned himself a Day three draft pick and
Speaker 5: now a starting role in the NFL. Since they have
Speaker 5: turned to him, he's put together five hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: eight yards on the ground in seven games and it
Speaker 5: has shot the Giants all the way up from thirtieth
Speaker 5: to nineteenth, which is really tough to do in the
Speaker 5: middle of a season to make up that much ground.
Speaker 5: I think for a Cowboys rush defense that is still
Speaker 5: trying to figure out from a rush perspective, from a
Speaker 5: rushing perspective, this could be. This could be a game
Speaker 5: where Tracy breaks a couple and if he's able to
Speaker 5: sustain drives, make life a little bit easier for Tommy DeVito.
Speaker 5: This offense can score points.
Speaker 3: The thing that it's interesting and you mentioned about Tracy,
Speaker 3: and I think the most positive thing about him is,
Speaker 3: you know, you look at the yards per carry and
Speaker 3: he's averaged almost five yards of carry. But go watch
Speaker 3: him run against when they play like the loaded box,
Speaker 3: they have eight guys in the box. This guy averages
Speaker 3: over four yards of carry against that and like he's
Speaker 3: got ten uh, He's got five of his five runs
Speaker 3: of ten yards or plus against those stack boxes. I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, how's this guy gonna play? You know,
Speaker 3: if Dallas tries to kind of just stop the running game,
Speaker 3: and so he still gets he still has successful rushes
Speaker 3: against eight or more in the box, and he's also
Speaker 3: had some you know, five of those runs have been
Speaker 3: with you know, with ten yards or more with a
Speaker 3: lot of people down in the box. He he catches
Speaker 3: the ball well too, because the former you know, the
Speaker 3: former receiver and stuff like that. But yeah, this is
Speaker 3: I think this offensive line. This is why I think
Speaker 3: where you and I had to disconnect here on this.
Speaker 3: I think it's a mess.
Speaker 5: It is a mess.
Speaker 3: I think I think it's a mess. And and I
Speaker 3: and I and and there's things. They're a big offensive
Speaker 3: line with the exception that that really at center. And
Speaker 3: I don't think they moved particularly well. And I think
Speaker 3: the one thing Dallas could really take advantage of them
Speaker 3: is with their quickness, and they're with their the way
Speaker 3: that they they run stunts, the way they bring blitzes.
Speaker 3: You know, you could go back and watch these guys play,
Speaker 3: and the more that teams really blitz them and they don't.
Speaker 3: They just don't pick. They don't sort out twists very well,
Speaker 3: and they don't sort out blitzes very well. And I
Speaker 3: if I'm Dallas, I'm I'm going to put as much pressure.
Speaker 3: Their centers really l liked he's a good center, he's athletic.
Speaker 3: John Michael Smith's is. I mean he I watched vedevea
Speaker 3: earlier that you just just couldn't just take him. It
Speaker 3: looked very similar to like Steg trying to block that,
Speaker 3: you know, block on that punt that he was just
Speaker 3: on skates and he just got crumpled and then you know,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now there's a sack right there.
Speaker 3: These guys just have a lot of problem with athletic
Speaker 3: rushers Philadelphia. You watched the Philadelphia game. You know, Philadelphia
Speaker 3: Dallas pretty much could you know, did a pretty decent
Speaker 3: job of handling those guys. These guys didn't handle Philly
Speaker 3: all that well. And and I that gives me some
Speaker 3: hope that some similar type of rushers, rushers and movement
Speaker 3: and movement that that they could they can make some
Speaker 3: hay against this this offensive line.
Speaker 5: I'd be attacking the interior here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love the double mug linebacker look from from Mike
Speaker 5: Zimmer and how he uses that with Demarvey and Overshown
Speaker 5: and some other guys to send some you know, free
Speaker 5: guys at the quarterback right. I think you could see
Speaker 5: something similar here. But it's also an opportunity for a
Speaker 5: guy like Ohso di Uzua. Again, I'd be attacking their interior,
Speaker 5: the right guard Greg Van Roten. He wrote a guy, yeah,
Speaker 5: you gave up two sacks last week, so that that
Speaker 5: would be the matchup for Odgiezula that I would I
Speaker 5: would see as a potential for the Giants offense to crumple.
Speaker 3: By the way, Scott word because I asked about they,
Speaker 3: you know, I asked about Kendricks and they said, hey,
Speaker 3: they got forty eight hours. There's some concern there, but
Speaker 3: they got forty eight hours to work with here, so
Speaker 3: they're going to see how that goes.
Speaker 2: But tough man veterans on a short term round like that,
Speaker 2: it's tough. It's really tough. All right, let's take our
Speaker 2: final break. When we come back.
Speaker 4: I want to dive a little bit more into Mike
Speaker 4: Zimmer's defense that's gotten a lot better here of the
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Speaker 4: particularly against the run, where they've had some success here
Speaker 4: recently against the lead receivers and lead running backs.
Speaker 2: That they face.
Speaker 4: They have not had success necessarily against some of the
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that run like Jade and Daniels. We'll talk about
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Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer's defense. I heard you guys talking in that
Speaker 4: last segment about this offense and being a little bit
Speaker 4: concerned about different things. One of the things that gives
Speaker 4: me hope that that desperation from the Giants won't manifest
Speaker 4: itself in this game is the fact that I think
Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer's defense has played so well and it's seeming
Speaker 4: to get better. They're starting to figure it out. And
Speaker 4: that defense is really predicated on confusion of the quarterback,
Speaker 4: and I think for young quarterbacks and inexperienced quarterbacks, I
Speaker 4: think that's even more important. So I think it's going
Speaker 4: to be a tough day for de Vido just from
Speaker 4: the standpoint of having to figure out what's happening, who's coming,
Speaker 4: who's not, when Mike gets into those kinds of formations
Speaker 4: and starts looking like he's going to bring a lot
Speaker 4: of guys and then backing guys out. But that all
Speaker 4: being said, let's talk about the matchup specifically against his defense.
Speaker 4: I want to start with the run defense. They held
Speaker 4: Robinson and Neck with to seventeen carries for fifty seven
Speaker 4: yards last week, a three point four average, but they
Speaker 4: did allow Jayden Daniels to hit him for seven carries
Speaker 4: for seventy four yards to ten point six average and
Speaker 4: a touchdown. Where did you see from what you watched
Speaker 4: last week? Where did you see them do well? Where
Speaker 4: did you see them struggle when it comes to run defense.
Speaker 5: I just felt like all hell broke loose with jayde
Speaker 5: and Daniels. In the final five minutes, he had that
Speaker 5: big I think it was twenty seven yard carry where
Speaker 5: he kind of just zig zagged around the field. He
Speaker 5: found some consistency on those three drives that they were
Speaker 5: able to put together where he really started to stack
Speaker 5: those yards. But up until that point, I felt like
Speaker 5: they did a really good job of containing him. They
Speaker 5: were forcing him to the sideline. Jade Daniels was not
Speaker 5: trying to get hit, which was much different than his
Speaker 5: LSU days and George getting hit there. He definitely enjoyed
Speaker 5: getting hit, but they were leading him to the sideline,
Speaker 5: escorting him out. And then in those final five minutes,
Speaker 5: it's it just got a little wild. I think you
Speaker 5: saw a little bit of desperation from Washington and Daniels
Speaker 5: started to use the whole field a little bit more.
Speaker 5: But I think from a mobile quarterback perspective, I think
Speaker 5: overall the Cowboys still do have issues there because when
Speaker 5: you have a mobile quarterback who is trying to, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to make it a little bit more difficult than
Speaker 5: just being escorted out of bounds, then those guys can
Speaker 5: can have some success. It's Tommy to veto that guy,
Speaker 5: I don't think necessarily, but him being a young quarterback.
Speaker 5: I think there are some ways that Mike Zimmer can
Speaker 5: take advantage of that, because not only you look at
Speaker 5: the rookie and Jane and Daniels, you look a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks ago, second year guy and c J. Stroud.
Speaker 5: He had some issues identifying pre snap Blitzer. He has
Speaker 5: some issues pre snap identifying Blitz's. Mike Zimmer did a
Speaker 5: lot of things with him post snap as well that
Speaker 5: cost some issues. And also Stroud just didn't have his
Speaker 5: best day. Granted it ended up in a thirty four
Speaker 5: to ten win or whatever it was, but he has
Speaker 5: success against young quarterbacks because it's a lot to take
Speaker 5: in and especially in a short week, it's not a
Speaker 5: lot to prepare for. So I agree with you. I
Speaker 5: think that this defense can have success against the de Vito.
Speaker 5: That's why I think they're gonna lean on this run
Speaker 5: game early and often, and I think they're gonna find
Speaker 5: some success with it.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I was gonna just add like,
Speaker 6: I think the way they played last week is just
Speaker 6: it's creating momentum for this Cowboys defense. And typically I
Speaker 6: would be like, ah, doesn't matter the amount of the
Speaker 6: experience or inexperience that a quarterback has. The Cowboys always
Speaker 6: struggle with even younger players when they can run and
Speaker 6: get out. But this is a game that I just
Speaker 6: I feel like it's favoring the Cowboys a lot more
Speaker 6: because of the way that the defense is playing in general.
Speaker 6: And then on top of that, this doesn't deal with
Speaker 6: the quarterback pressure, but remembering they're on bland him coming
Speaker 6: back for another game, remembering what happened last year. Last
Speaker 6: year thinks given was the moment.
Speaker 5: Where he broke that wrecker.
Speaker 6: So I just have a feeling that somehow they're gonna
Speaker 6: be able to not only create pressure, but also start
Speaker 6: creating those turnovers again. And we see that those coming
Speaker 6: bunches typically and this is a big opportunity. You guys
Speaker 6: talk about the offensive line, but I'm like the defensive
Speaker 6: line for the Cowboys is also getting better with those
Speaker 6: pressures too.
Speaker 3: They are. They are. And you know, the Giants front
Speaker 3: office did you a favor by getting rid of Daniel Jones,
Speaker 3: because if Daniel Jones is playing quarterback here, now you
Speaker 3: have a legitimate run option at quarterback. You have a
Speaker 3: guy that will pull it and run and is not
Speaker 3: afraid to try and run into people and get first
Speaker 3: downs and stuff like that. I don't think Tommy Devido
Speaker 3: is going to be that way. Tier Tracy is a
Speaker 3: good back. I mean he is, you know he is.
Speaker 3: Dallas is going to have to find a way to
Speaker 3: win up front. You know. They cannot let a big
Speaker 3: Giants offensive line lean on them in this football game
Speaker 3: and then have Tracy, you know, just carrying the you know,
Speaker 3: and every time you look up it's second and five,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's capable of playing that way. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they need to be well aware of how talented this
Speaker 3: back really really is and be able to win this
Speaker 3: game up front against this big, big offensive line.
Speaker 4: Would you say you're more concerned about the Giants passing
Speaker 4: attack or their rushing attack based on what Dallas has
Speaker 4: done well so far in the last couple of games.
Speaker 4: Let's just put it to the last few games when
Speaker 4: They've played much.
Speaker 5: Better a rushing attack for sure. Still, in the last
Speaker 5: three games they are at the bottom five in the
Speaker 5: NFL and rushing yards allowed. He's one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: seven point seven they've given up in the last three
Speaker 5: games per game. I'm more scared of this rushing attack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rushing is a problem again. Tommy DeVito throwing
Speaker 3: the football, Elik Neighbors could very well be targeted a
Speaker 3: ton in this game just because of what you think
Speaker 3: is going to happen. You know, there's a team kind
Speaker 3: of going nowhere, and let's see if we can get
Speaker 3: him going. I don't know if Tommy DeVito can beat
Speaker 3: you throwing the football, but I know Tyrone Tracy just
Speaker 3: run and the ball consistently could be a path for
Speaker 3: victory for them.
Speaker 4: When you look at a guy like Marshawn Neelan and
Speaker 4: what he did last week, what was your assessment of
Speaker 4: him coming back from.
Speaker 5: Injury limited snaps. I don't think he ever really found
Speaker 5: a rhythm as a result. I think this was a
Speaker 5: game where he was on a very strict pitch count.
Speaker 5: From what I was told, he actually didn't even reach
Speaker 5: that pitch count once things got kind of out of
Speaker 5: hand or crazy late. They didn't want him in that
Speaker 5: type of situation, So I think he just needs to
Speaker 5: continue stacking reps. I'm not really going to take that
Speaker 5: one game as an evaluation for Neilan personally, but as
Speaker 5: he starts to get more snaps, I'm definitely keeping an eye.
Speaker 3: On the times he got to play. There was a
Speaker 3: burst there and you could kind of see when the
Speaker 3: ball when those times when Daniels was running to the edge,
Speaker 3: you could see him chasing from the backside and stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, yeah, this game would he kind of
Speaker 3: got his feet wet last week and then now maybe
Speaker 3: an opportunity to be a little bit better and show
Speaker 3: up a little bit more in some of the scheme
Speaker 3: stuff they wanted to do. What about Mozzie Smith Massie
Speaker 3: I thought played pretty well at Mai. Mazzi is one
Speaker 3: of those guys we figured it out. Mozzi is a
Speaker 3: divisional player. Like when it's the Giants, the Commanders, the Eagles,
Speaker 3: that's kind of Mazzi's best games.
Speaker 5: We've got a big Massi fan over here too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not, but I think.
Speaker 6: So you go Cowboys okay, by Diego.
Speaker 3: By Diego, But yeah, you know, I felt like that,
Speaker 3: you know, the first play of the game, and then
Speaker 3: there were some other snaps. You know, if John Michael
Speaker 3: Smith's the center for the Giants is going to play small,
Speaker 3: play light, sure, you know, take advantage of that, you know,
Speaker 3: and Mozzi showed some nice power I thought in this game.
Speaker 3: Divisional game has always seemed to be his his cup
Speaker 3: of tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I appreciate you guys, Jonas. We'll be
Speaker 2: back tomorrow.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get into the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 4: Will also kind of wrap this thing up for you,
Speaker 4: tell you what we think is going to happen on Thursday.
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