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Speaker 1: How do everybody? But this is the FOP FOP one

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Speaker 1: from me Eaters Live Christmas Tour. We're in Birmingham, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Normally when you join the show, it's it's all everybody's

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Speaker 1: familiar with our producer Corin, with Phil the engineer. But

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Speaker 1: today we have our esteemed colleague Reva. Reva comes to

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Speaker 1: for the whole tour. She's always working on stuff. But

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Speaker 1: you never do this show. No, Reeva's here doing this

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Speaker 1: show today. Would you like to say anything to people?

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to? Oh, Reva would like you the Reva's one

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Speaker 1: ask is you subscribe to the YouTube feed at the

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Speaker 1: Mediator podcast YouTube channel. We're so what we're doing today

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Speaker 1: is we're joined by a ticket holder. Yeah, Pablo Escobell,

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Speaker 1: you're coming to the show tonight. Yeah, yeah, you excited

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, definitely because it's gonna be the first time too,

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Speaker 1: Now I know you well. The reason I wanted to

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Speaker 1: You've been on a handful of podcasts and I've listened

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Speaker 1: to your story on other podcasts The Southern Outdoorsman. Is

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Speaker 1: that what it's called? Southern outdoors podcast? Yanni sent that

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Speaker 1: to me saying, this guy's a riot and I've heard

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Speaker 1: of do you other interviews? And I thought, man, we're

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Speaker 1: to hear about some of your hunting adventures. Wow, and

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Speaker 1: kind of your strange trip towards becoming an American hunter.

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Speaker 3: Can you before we get to Pablo, can you explain

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd be happy to what it means? Is

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Speaker 1: addressing you listeners. We have this problem where we release

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Speaker 1: Do you know this why it's called that? So one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a pretty so we bought some blowguns

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Speaker 2: I took sport fishing. That's what I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: And I said, where's the city? She said what city?

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Speaker 3: But you were excited and moving forward because so you're

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that was the main thing. Well, we landed, made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just so you viewed it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with my mom and my little brother, you know,

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Speaker 2: Then we landed. Next day, wake up. First morning on

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Speaker 2: losing my mind on Rick's property we'll call it the farm.

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Speaker 2: And my mom, she said, and I'm gonna mention this

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Speaker 2: First breakfast excellent. Then Mama says, ah, we got to talk.

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Speaker 2: And hm hmm, Well when when did he say yes?

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Speaker 2: and he kind of like hit me a little too

429
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: hard because I've been talking to you. What I said?

430
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: I said, heck no, said do you want to go

431
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: with me? She said where? And I said I don't know.

432
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, dude. The only thing that I needed

433
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: was a horse and a cowboy hat to make it

434
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: look like the Western style. And we just left on

435
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: my truck that day. Oh well, at the time, I

436
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: already had the truck, but I'm still living with Rick

437
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: on Rick's house.

438
00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you stole her away. Well, she needed to.

439
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: Was eighteen, she was fixing to be nineteen, wow, And

440
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: I was twenty two. We left, and I said, uh,

441
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: I got to talk to my mom. Called my mom

442
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: and said, Mom, do you remember that girl that I

443
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: talked to you about that I like her? She said yeah,

444
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: Now she's with me. She said, Okay, what are y'all doing?

445
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: I said, well, we're running. And it was a brave pause.

446
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: She's like, in the name of Jesus, in the name

447
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: of Jesus, you stop what you at tell me right now.

448
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: And well it was a big deal. One of them

449
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: guys from the restaurant gave her dad my number, and

450
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: the news called me furious. It was, oh my god,

451
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you. And I said, listen to chill.

452
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: I said, chill, let's speak like men, you know, let's

453
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: let's just be reasonable about this and let's just talk

454
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: like me. And I try to talk to you once

455
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: and you didn't talk to me. Let's just talk this time. Ah,

456
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: I meet you tomorrow the Walmart out there, well live

457
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: and I said, my ELA's my wife's just like, it's

458
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: not looking good and I said, no, no worries, Like

459
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 2: I got it. We get too, man. I pull up

460
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: to the parking lot. Then I get out of the

461
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: truck and this dude comes out running, flashing a gun,

462
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: like losing his mind. And I said listen, I said,

463
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: whoa chill. I said, listen first and foremost, let's fix him.

464
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Call the cops. I said, put that thing up. If

465
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: you're trying to impress me, that's the wrong impression. I said,

466
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: I came here to talk to you, and you're behaving

467
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: like I don't even know how. Well, then the situation

468
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: gets weird because the dude starts crying m hm. And

469
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: I was like, well, as a dude, you just pointed

470
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: the gun at me, cussing me out. Now he's crying.

471
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: He started doing it, you know, his panic blessing and

472
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and he said, I gotta give you

473
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: the blessing. I'm just kind of like, what's what's going

474
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: on with this dude? I mean, he grabs me by

475
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: my mouth and kiss me in my mouth? Her father, Yeah, yeah, dude,

476
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: I froze on time right there. And I said, hell, no, man,

477
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: that ain't no blessing, Like what's wrong with you? You know?

478
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: And and she was like no, no, I'm I'm sorry.

479
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: I don't understand, and well you're taking my little baby

480
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: and this and that, and I was like.

481
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: Well, back up, your wife views it as a blessing

482
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: or she No, she.

483
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: Was like, I never heard that he is he gay?

484
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: I hope it ain't because that they traumatized me.

485
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: So there was an unexpected maneuver on his part.

486
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a carbal. I wasn't never respecting. I

487
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: was like, what's going on?

488
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Your wife wasn't expecting it?

489
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: No, she was just like, well, this is this and

490
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: I was that my wife.

491
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: She was surprised by it. Yeah, and our other dudes,

492
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: you know, from our other like Latino dudes that you know,

493
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: surprised by that.

494
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Everybody said that one no blazing. I knew everybody. Man,

495
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, I do that ain't no blazing. I said,

496
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: that's mm hmm.

497
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: You think it's a show of dominant.

498
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: What kind of dominant? But I don't want to know

499
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: that dominance and what I mean, like.

500
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: I get the feeling it's important. I heard Babo's story

501
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: about the kiss. Yeah, but my my, uh, the way

502
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: I would read it would be that he sounds like

503
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: he had his own issues. Sounds like maybe he didn't

504
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: have a plan.

505
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: Like you're getting an unstable vibe off ofim.

506
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: I Yeah, and then maybe that like he was literally

507
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: overjoyed that you such a fine, young, upstanding man. Would

508
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: you know? I want to be with his daughter. And

509
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: the way that he expressed expressed himself in that moment

510
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: with a kiss.

511
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: That's why I wait to express himself. And I wish

512
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: you would have just stroked my hand.

513
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: That's really something I would have been thrown by that.

514
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: I had to go ask my wife's dad if I

515
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: could ask her to get married. He didn't do nothing

516
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: like that really, and I was like, I was like,

517
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: I didn't give a big old smooch.

518
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, there, you just like traumatized me

519
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: for that sure, And I said, from.

520
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: Now on this, So how did the interaction end?

521
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: That was it?

522
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: Well?

523
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: He just keep saying some stuff. Man my head, he's

524
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: but how did he?

525
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to, I want to. This is great,

526
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: I want to. I just want to cover a couple

527
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: more things. But I just need to understand something. What

528
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: to your knowledge now looking back on it, what is

529
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: his state of mind from brandishing a pistol to a blessing,

530
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: a Catholic blessing to a kiss.

531
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

532
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: How many seconds, how many minutes we're talking about we're

533
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: talking about five four or five minutes.

534
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: It was a blast.

535
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: You know.

536
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: The drill came out really good, I mean really quick.

537
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: He came out of that truck like if it was

538
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: a drug bust, you know, just and all.

539
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: That stuff by himself.

540
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And then he kind of hit a breake ball.

541
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: I guess, because if you think about it in a

542
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: psychological aspect, he might have don't hit a breakball because

543
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't impressing me. And I was telling him.

544
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: You weren't intimidated, no, you know, with some part of

545
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: you wondering if he was gonna shoot you or do

546
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: you know he wasn't gonna shoot you?

547
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: No?

548
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: I knew, man, you knew he wasn't gonn shoot Yeah.

549
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: I knew he was just bluffing. And it was just

550
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: the wrong cowboy to mess with, you know. So I

551
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: was like, man, then he hits that wall and he

552
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: realizes that, yeah, they like each other, and she's fixing

553
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: to go with him, and he starts going that and

554
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: then I guess his emotions just and crazy.

555
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: Is he a part of your life? Now?

556
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: No? No, now that I cut ties, I said, man,

557
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: because Christmas later, I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna

558
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: go back to something else. The tension stayed in there.

559
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Sure it was tangion, especially from my part, because I

560
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: was just looking at him.

561
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: Like you weird though, like yeah, yeah, yeah, well Christmas

562
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: and he'd hit your wife, yeah.

563
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: And Christmas party comes along. He knew that I didn't

564
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: eat spies food at all, like spies spies. You don't

565
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: like spicy food, yeaheah. I ate something, but not like

566
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: fire right, okay. He fixed a plate for me and

567
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: it was dynamite with chicken. Literally, like my nose was

568
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: running ice. I mean you're talking about I was having

569
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: a bad time and he's just looking at I'm like,

570
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: how is it? Is it good? And I was like

571
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: it's delicious. I was an and I cleaned that plate

572
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: because I wasn't gonna let these men save me fumbling

573
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: right there. I was like, no, if I'm dying, I'm

574
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: dying and standing, you know. And it was a try

575
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: and she was like, don't eat that. The morning, I

576
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: said no, I'm not gonna give him the joy, you know,

577
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: when I'm finishing this. And that day I was like

578
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: this is it? Does it?

579
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

580
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: I said, I don't give you many many chances and

581
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: you keep coming to kind of like a trying to

582
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: sucker punch me. And I said every time that I'm

583
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, pretty much like opening myself up to you.

584
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: So after that, I just decide that for my personal interest,

585
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: it was better off if I just kind of kept

586
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: my distance, not interfered with the relationship between father and daughter,

587
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: because that's none of my business, you know what I mean?

588
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: Are they close kind of yeah, that's a story for

589
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: a different time. Yeah.

590
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wow, welcome to America.

591
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and all this happened. Ninety days are up, and.

592
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: I got all this is all in the ninety days.

593
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Yes, And I was thinking, like, you're like.

594
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll do you one better. I'll find a girl.

595
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then at the end of the ninety days,

596
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: I had all the requirements that RIG wanted. Plus I

597
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: was moving into the apartment with my current wife, you know,

598
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: with my wife, we're moving into.

599
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: The driver's license. Yes, I was a social Security number

600
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I had.

601
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 2: I had a two hour break on the restaurant. So

602
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: I had a dictionary and the driver license manual and

603
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: I was just trying to translate and make sense out

604
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: of it. I knew how to drive a vehicle kind

605
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: of but I knew that she was going to ask

606
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: me a bunch of questions. I felt the test four times,

607
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: no three, and I passed it on the fourth one

608
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: because she was like, let's do a three point maneuver.

609
00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, keep driving. You didn't know

610
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: what she said, could ride and make and ride and

611
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and until she was like pull over,

612
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: pull over, pulling with the wheeler of me. Then she

613
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: was like, ah, you see it on the passenger side.

614
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, ah, I failed.

615
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: You know.

616
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: What happened? And my mom what? And I was like,

617
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: what happened? So where you failed? That's what happened. I

618
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: was like, oh, so yeah, the fourth time I got it.

619
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: So when, uh, when did you? Because because you've become

620
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a very avid American hunter, here's when you got to America.

621
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: So we talked about growing up in Costa Rica and

622
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: you had like you you had like the drive. And

623
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: this is an interesting deal. My man was raised by

624
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Italian immigrants. He's raised by his Italian immigrant grandparents. My

625
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: father they didn't know, there's no kind of He grew

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: up in the slums in the South Side of Chicago,

627
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: but he knew he don't know where it came from,

628
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: but he knew he was supposed to be a fisherman

629
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: and a hunter, and he would go fish on the

630
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: pier in Lake Michigan. He would go try to jump

631
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: on a train and ride a train out and try

632
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: to hunt rabbits along the railroad tracks outside of the city.

633
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: He was called to it, right, So you had the

634
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: calling when you came to the US. How long did

635
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: it take for you to put together that you'd landed

636
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: in like a hunting fishing paradise.

637
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: It took me a little bit because everything was a process, right,

638
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: and I was kind of like an evolving as I

639
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: was going and understanding a little bit more at the time.

640
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: And then I start seeing deer on the side of

641
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: the road being hit by a car whatever I live,

642
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, Well, my stepdad's

643
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: never been a hunter before.

644
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: He was a farmer.

645
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: No, he had a construction business.

646
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: He had a farmer, didn't farm.

647
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: We just called it the farmer. Yeah, the only animal.

648
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: And there was my little brother's dog. So I said, Rick,

649
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: how do you hunt? And he was like, no, man, uh,

650
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta have property, you gotta have land,

651
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: and you know, and I was like, really, my mom

652
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: was kind of translating me. So they turned direct to view.

653
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: At the time, it was direct to view memory. It

654
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: was no big social media like it is right now.

655
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: I ain't know anything about anything. And well it was

656
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: this deer hunting shows from the Promised Land, you know,

657
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: the Midwest. I have no clue just watching. He was like,

658
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: this guy's got thousands of acres manages, as is anything else. Well,

659
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: there's public gun but if you go to public line,

660
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be shooting out you. You don't want

661
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: to go there. And all that I remember about a

662
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: year or two went by, and I was like, man,

663
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: I really really want to, like because I brought my

664
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: sling shot with me, the frame I practicing. My little

665
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: brother had a baby gun. Then I got a baby

666
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: gun man, and I was in the middle of the

667
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: first thing that Rick told me is like, donoculate anything.

668
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: I was like, why, He's like, there's rules and regulations.

669
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: Well that was another chapter to me understanding why we

670
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: do the things that we do right here right now,

671
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: why we have laws of conservation, and why do we

672
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: follow the things that we follow, you know, which it

673
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: was a really good like mine opening bread fresh and

674
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, these people really do

675
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: the right thing. As he kept going. I was very

676
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: interested at the time because I was just shooting pellets

677
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: and clays and things about on the backyards of targets.

678
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: You know. Well, we're doing a work on a construction business.

679
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: This gentleman pulls up and he says, man, can I

680
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: speak with the foreman? I just want to know. He

681
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: was leading some concrete on the side. Well, they asked

682
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: me if I wanted to participate on that Saturday, and

683
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: I said sure. So we go and we're pulling the

684
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: conquer and all that stuff. My step that comes by home.

685
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: You're at a job site. Yes, I was another huge

686
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: shows up to inquire about some concrete work.

687
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Pretty much to get out to get out an estimate.

688
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Now you got to remember I was on the Mexicans.

689
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Take it as a side job and you jump in

690
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: on it.

691
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: I was on the Mexican restaurant about three months and

692
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I got it. I'm good.

693
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm I can go through the world. I know how

694
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: to speak English and which I didn't, but I was

695
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: very confident, like I now I know what I'm doing. Well, literally,

696
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: I know. Man, I go to get a job on

697
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: construction and I'm going I'm going to a stand their

698
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: system and I'm coming from a metric system. M hm,

699
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: well back to square one. And I was like, God,

700
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm mighty yards miles.

701
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Inches the dumbest shit in the world.

702
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: Man, Everything is just backwards. So I was like, God,

703
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm mighty. Anyways, I get better at it. It's been

704
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: three years. I saw it as a groundsman with no

705
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: experiencing anything, didn't understood anything. And I move up to

706
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: a concrete finisher so that they were doing that job.

707
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: My stepdad comes out. I've been watching the shows, keep

708
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: constantly watching these shows. My stepdad comes out, he said, son,

709
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: let me show you something. He's like, come over here.

710
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: So we go on the back of this property where

711
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: we pouring the concrete as mister Tony Mile's residence. Right.

712
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: We walk on the backside and there is giant one

713
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty plus class bucks all over one seventies

714
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: one eighties state records, you name.

715
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: It all over on the wall.

716
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah text so yeah, shoulder mounds and a bunch of

717
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: euro mounds. So I'm losing my mind and never seen

718
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: this before. And I was like, oh my god. First

719
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: thing that came to my mind. I said, he probabably

720
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: sells them. I said, do you sell them? Mister Tony

721
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: was kind of laughing. He said no, I don't. I said,

722
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: what did you kill him? He said right up there?

723
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, what is that? And I asked

724
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: my stepdad the name of the place. He's like, well,

725
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: that's public. I was like, oh my god, and I'm

726
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: admiring and all that stuff. Well, the country is drying up,

727
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: so I have to go back. At went back, I

728
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: got a brief talk with mister Tawny and uh Man,

729
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 2: I came back home and I just couldn't stop thinking

730
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: about it. I just couldn't stop thinking about it. How

731
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: magnificent these animals were, decides everything. Never seen anything like

732
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: that for my life. So as a rick, I really

733
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: want to go hunt. He said, well, first thing you

734
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: gotta do is take the Hunter Education course. And I said, ah,

735
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: So I took it online, got it done. That was

736
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. I said, okay.

737
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, well, did they have that in Spanish?

738
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: You did it in English? No?

739
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: In English? Yeah. At the time I was able to

740
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: comprehend way more than what I was able to speak,

741
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: Like I could comprehend, but I can speak anything, which

742
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm still you know, fumbling here and there. But got

743
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: it done, you know, based on the pamphlet and all

744
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 2: that stuff. I said, Okay, so you can hunt from

745
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: this day to this day, you know, from like October

746
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: the fifteenth until January the thirty as an example. Right,

747
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: so good. I want to bowt like the guys from

748
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: the show. So they take me to a big buck store, man,

749
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: and they try to give me a right handed bowt,

750
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: but I'm left handed. So I'm growing the thing like this.

751
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel good, and I'm like, no, I can't.

752
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: Eventually they found a left handed boat and the so

753
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: called technician is called another technician who is calling another

754
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: technician just to try to help me set it up,

755
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: set the peep side, and I said, I'm going home, man,

756
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: I go home to set the boat. Watch a few videos,

757
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: and I said, I I'm gonna set it up. The

758
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: first shot that smoked my forearm, I mean I'm talking

759
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: about like that, and put several shots through the siding

760
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: of the house. Uh, several hours disappear. By the grace

761
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: of God, there was no neighbors because I sent a

762
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: lot of broheads. They just said, you know, and I

763
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: got good. It's been three years. Well hold on because

764
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: this is one. It's a shame. But I went to Walmart.

765
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: It's my first day, first day ever. Man, I'm ready.

766
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do an evening hunt. So I go to

767
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Walmart and I told the lady on the hunting section,

768
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 2: can I get some saying deer sing, you know, because

769
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: these dudes are spraying all the time in the shows.

770
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: He said, dear saying and I said yes, and she

771
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: said dear pin. I said yes, you know, Like what.

772
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Do I know?

773
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: She gives me a big bottle. Man, I go jump

774
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: out of the truck, and that's what these guys are doing.

775
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: And the first pump, I was like, god, money, I said,

776
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: this crap is this tout? Yeah? Yeah, but I just

777
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: go out it man yourself in that deer pa and

778
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm guging.

779
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: Well.

780
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: It was diestrous. Later that I know all these dudes

781
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: are spraying with say killer man. I didn't know the difference,

782
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, So that was a really rough lesson that day.

783
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I was like, don't spread this crap on yourself. You

784
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I was like, god man made

785
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: at home and I walked in. She said, how do

786
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: you get out? What is the smell? And I was like,

787
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: guess what they used? And she was like, nobody's using

788
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: that kind of crap? What's wrong with you? Anyways? You

789
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: know how to get rid of that thing? And I

790
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: was mimicking what I was watching the shows.

791
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: So how long did you hunt for? You got a

792
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: deer hold on.

793
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: It's been three years, so at this point you hunted

794
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: three long seasons, mimicking what they.

795
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: Do all bowl hunting.

796
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah on Iowa, Kansas, Illinois. Down here in Alabama, you're.

797
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Taking those moves and you're hunting an Albanion.

798
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Halloween and I'm entering rather than

799
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: they don't run into January. Right, never saw a thing

800
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: until finally I start seeing deer poop and I was

801
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: like at the time, I had the phone and I

802
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: was like, how those deer poop looks like? And I

803
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I'm on And I was like,

804
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm getting very close and never seeing the thing. So

805
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: I said, Rick, something's gonna have to change, man, I said,

806
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: do you remember mister Tony? He said, yeah, I said,

807
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: do you know if she still lives in there? He said,

808
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I said, I'm going to go. I

809
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: know the concrete, so I'm going to go find them.

810
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: He said, oh man, I'll go out there and look

811
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: at the house. Found the concrete and I said, that's him.

812
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: That's the house. Doesn't seem to be nobody. And I

813
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: said two things. Something is gonna happen. I'm gonna find

814
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: Tony or I'm gonna catch around. But you know, I'm

815
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: gonna fix it. A gay shot. Knock on the front door. Nobody,

816
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: and I was like, I remember we went on the back. Now.

817
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I was just bracing myself for the impact, you know,

818
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: because it's the South, you know how it goes. And

819
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: then if you use the stereotypes, he has an accent,

820
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: he has the tears, you know what I mean. So

821
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: I said, here we go. I went back there, knocking

822
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: the door. Miss Donna comes out. She's like, can I

823
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: help you? And I was like, hello, Hey, do you

824
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: remember me? No, No, who are you? I said, it's

825
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: mister Tony Holmes. She said he's honey. He was back

826
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: later on, so I'll be back. I just went and

827
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: sat in the party for like six hours and then

828
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: I seen his stroke pull in. I said, all right,

829
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: here we go, pull back in. Man. He recognized me.

830
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh hey, buddy, coming in. I remember, man, it's been

831
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: three years. Then I started talking with Tawny and he

832
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: realized that I was a grown man with the experience

833
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: of a three year old kid on the woods and

834
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: and he said, man, we got a lot of work

835
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: to do. We're gonna start from zero. I said, I

836
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: do you know your feet? Trees? And I was like

837
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: what is that? Do you know your seasons? The road

838
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: and I was like what is the road? Man? Feeding

839
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: wise and all that stuff. I ended up getting a

840
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: book that says Alabama plants and bushes, you know, like native,

841
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: just to get a better understanding of all the different species.

842
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: He was like, Okay, this is a white oak, this

843
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: is a red oak. I had no clue. And when

844
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, whenever they get full of acorns, they're fixing

845
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: the drop and I was like, what they're going to drop?

846
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: He was like acrons and I was like what is

847
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: an acorn? He was like this and I was like,

848
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: what is it? There's gonna eat it. And the process

849
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: went like that. Next year, I'm sitting on this piece

850
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: of public first time ever a deer.

851
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Well.

852
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: I was climbing at the time. I was wearing a

853
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: steel climber by choice, because you golumb about one hundred

854
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: yards from the truck man circulations to your arms. Everything

855
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: is cut like this, everything is purple, you know what

856
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: I mean. It's so heavy and climb up and there

857
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: is a deer like I can actually see and it

858
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: has antlers. Man, So I never understood this by buck

859
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: fever Man, I thought I was having a heart attack,

860
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't stop shaking. My blood pressure was up

861
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: to the roof, and I was like, oh my god,

862
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: this is it, this is it. And the thing comes

863
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: right in like textbook. I ain't no telling where I'll

864
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: send that error, man, there's no telling where that era

865
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: went to. That in takes up running and I was

866
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: like looking at the error and the deer just disappears

867
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: there he's went three years.

868
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 3: How old are you now?

869
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: I was like six, and I'm not gonna lie. I

870
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: cry like a kid that day because I was like,

871
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: this is what he said, like, this is what he

872
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: was like. He just came down to this moment.

873
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Tears of joy or frustration, frustration.

874
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I blew it. That guy

875
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: blew it out of the water. Well. I came home heartbroken,

876
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: told my wife I ain't never doing this again. Period.

877
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: You're done.

878
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: What happened? I said, I missed? Deer's in deer and

879
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: he had antlers and I missed. He said, well, just

880
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: try harder, and I was like, it's not that, is it?

881
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: You know?

882
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: She doesn't hunt. About three days later, I was off

883
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: the whole week. She says, so you're not going back

884
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: to the woods and I said.

885
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

886
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm done with that, never ever again. She said, just

887
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: go and walk and kind of clear your mind. Now.

888
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: She left the work in about twelve twelve thirty. I said,

889
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: you know what, She's right, I'm just going to go

890
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: for a walk. So I went back to the place

891
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: where I missed. Look up and I was like about

892
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: to cry again. I was like, I'm right here, walking

893
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: about one hundred yards south, sat on the ground.

894
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: How far was that shot that you missed?

895
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Thirteen or fourteen yards? Like he was right there? And

896
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: I had a ready sure, man, we've all been there. Man,

897
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: you don't need to be Costa Rican the miss man.

898
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: We've also missed all kinds of stuff. Oh yeah, And

899
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: I sat on the ground that that evening. I says,

900
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: screw it, I'm just going to sit here for the evening.

901
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: And I remember this like if it was yesterday. Man

902
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: had a street stumped behind me, a lug and a

903
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: previous head. I'm just pretty much in the same position

904
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: that I'm at right now, looking at it was a trail,

905
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: but I have no idea that it was a trail

906
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: that was the opening right here. So I was sitting

907
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: here with a little bit of sand and stick, just

908
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: kind of like making the time go a little bit faster.

909
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Next thing I know, I heard some footsteps and I said,

910
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: I said, squirrel. And I look up and the same book,

911
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: the small a pointer is walking my way. So I

912
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: was like, dude, and well, I'm on panic mode. I

913
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: cannot get my release on the boat. I'm shaking so

914
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: bout I'm having a sei shure attack man. And I'm

915
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: on the ground, yes, seating, And next thing I know,

916
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: that book is right there, Man like right there just

917
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: looking at me.

918
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: But how far ten twelve again dodging around?

919
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob in his head like, what is that thing?

920
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Man?

921
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing the peep side. I don't remember

922
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: am I just know I did this and I heard

923
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: that tump boom that thing mume kicks stakes up running

924
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: and I thought that I seen him pile up because

925
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: I seen him come like going, and I was like,

926
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: oh my god. Now panic set seen because I was like,

927
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: they're gonna find us both dead right here, like I'm

928
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: facing to have a heart attack, you know what I mean.

929
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: Settled myself down a little bit, went to the air man.

930
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: The errors covered up with blood, and I said, I

931
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: gotta get out of here now. So I got out.

932
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 2: Called my wife and I was like, honey, I killed him.

933
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: Instead of being supportive, She's like, are you sure like

934
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: you like you kill him like you didn't miss like

935
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: last time. And she got on my head back man,

936
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, she She might

937
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: have been right. I could have just spooked him. I

938
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: don't even know if I hit him, man. Man, talk

939
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: about a pickle. You know. Well, at the time, I

940
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: didn't have ONIX. The only light that I have was

941
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: my cell phone. So I'm trying to find this stump.

942
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 2: It's already dark and I'm trying to find the stump

943
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: where I was sitting to go look for my arrow,

944
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: to try to find that.

945
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: You can't even remember where you were alone, I have

946
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: no clue.

947
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: About two hours go by, I was like, right here

948
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: there it is. The air was torching blood. I was like,

949
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, I hit the thing. I hit him,

950
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: and man, I keep looking and look, well there was

951
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: a blood trail about this big and I just keep

952
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: walking over and never saw it. You know, I was

953
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: about to start crying again. Next thing, you know, that

954
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: buck was like maybe from here to where real was at? Yeah,

955
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: and I lost my mind dragging him out. The first

956
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: thing that they went to Tony's house. He was so pumped

957
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: about it. Man, you take the buck and showed him. Yeah,

958
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: he was like, it's nothing but a small two and

959
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: a half year old a point basket, a pointer. I

960
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: showed them mound that book. I swear to God because

961
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: it was is the first deer that I ever shot

962
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: in my life and it was a buck. So I

963
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: showed him A guy him out end of the house.

964
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: And after that, you know, the processes start getting better.

965
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm hooked birth man, Yes, but but this is

966
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: like I don't like I was able to taste it,

967
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, what I mean?

968
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: And did you just get your You got your biggest buck.

969
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: To date this year day before Christmas.

970
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm public laying here. The first one I got home

971
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: day before Christmas, so you got no I'm sorry.

972
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: Day before Thanksgiving this year. The biggest book ever of

973
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: my life happened in Halloween. And literally, I know, three

974
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: weeks later I was gonna kill the biggest buck ever.

975
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, I broke my pebe and freaking said like

976
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: that two times.

977
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: This is both on public ground.

978
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: Yes this picture, yeah sure, And I'm going to show

979
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 2: you the one that I killed the day before Thanksgiving.

980
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: So this is the second biggest bug.

981
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: I was like a man, you ain't never gonna make

982
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: this happen again. And uh, next thing, you know, this

983
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: hold on this one is there? It is.

984
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Holy cow man.

985
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah man, that's Alabama public book guys in Alabama public land. Giant.

986
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: Look look at the one right here here.

987
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: We even filmed that with your camera.

988
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: Look the inside is spread of that thing.

989
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: How how wide is it?

990
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: Nineteen and a half.

991
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: That's a cool picture. Filming out with your camera. Even

992
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: you want to film something, you're getting a good shot

993
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: of it. Dude. You know what I like about all that.

994
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I like everything about that story. But the

995
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: biggest thing is this is an observation I make all

996
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: the time. And I've mentioned a bunch. It doesn't matter

997
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: where you go in the country, and me and Jani

998
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: eve been fortunate to go everywhere, all over the place

999
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: talking to guys that hunt, talking to guys of fish

1000
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: everywhere around the country. Everywhere you go, there's two kinds

1001
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: of guys, and man, they live next door to each other.

1002
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: There's the guys that like it all sucks now. Fishing

1003
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: game ruined it, the mung ruined it, the wolves ruined it,

1004
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: the out of staters ruined it. It all sucks right,

1005
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: And next door to him everywhere you go in the

1006
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: country is the guy that can't scratch the surface. There's

1007
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: so much to do and he's so excited to be

1008
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: alive and he can't get to it all. And you're

1009
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: that guy.

1010
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I like that. The crazy thing is

1011
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: that you know, after well, mister Tunny introduced me with

1012
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 2: mister Michael Perry, mister Jamie McKay, and the ball keeps

1013
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: on rolling, Parking McDonald, then Williams and everybody just started

1014
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: like pitching in, you know, to educate you, to educate, Yes,

1015
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: And I started learning from all these killers. Man, Like

1016
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: everybody's like, I'm doing good this lesson that mister Tony

1017
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: taught me, and I think it was the most valuable

1018
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: thing that he could said to me. He was, you

1019
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: got to put some deer under your belt. Don't think

1020
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: that you're gonna just go out there and shoot one

1021
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: of these.

1022
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Just get it figured out.

1023
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I said, I'm so. I kill a bunch of spikes,

1024
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of them and those and four pointers, and

1025
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: just keep shooting with my boat with the rifle. If

1026
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: it was legal, I was shooting it just to learn, yes.

1027
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 2: And he was like, eventually he's gonna click.

1028
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: Well.

1029
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: I had several encounters with really big dear. Couldn't take

1030
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: a shot, got busted five years ago Christmas going to

1031
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: be five years ago. Put a shot on that monster

1032
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: with my bow. He was running, man, and I hit

1033
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: him a little too far back. I couldn't stop it.

1034
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: I was like, man, man, man, man, we got dogs

1035
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: that I was shut him at by nine o'clock in

1036
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: the morning. It was like four o'clock in the morning

1037
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: next day.

1038
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: Never found him.

1039
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Never man. The blood went dry and heartbreaker. But it

1040
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: was incredible. It was one of the best moments ever

1041
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: because I was like, good, that confirms, you know that

1042
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: what I'm learning and the process that I've been following

1043
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: is actually paying off. Now now I took like put

1044
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: a step inside of what these guys do, you know,

1045
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Like I had an encounter and it's really good that

1046
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: I have this experience because now I can relate with

1047
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: them because this will happen, and He's going to happen.

1048
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: You know, I think that killing that deer would have

1049
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: steered me on the wrong direction. I could have got cocky.

1050
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh I don't got it all figured out?

1051
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha?

1052
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: I did just killed and all. You know what I mean.

1053
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: So it was a very humbling experience. There's a lot

1054
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: more work to do, and it has to start with

1055
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: myself practicing throughout the whole year. Then well, one of

1056
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: those days with Daniel racking my mom, they gave me

1057
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: my first rifle ever in my life ever, never own

1058
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: one of arm. It's a thirty or six Remington seventy

1059
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: seven thirty or six. Then throughout the years, I've been

1060
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: having issues missing, you know, so I was like kind

1061
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: of weird. Then Daniels said, like, when was the last

1062
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: time you side this thing in?

1063
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1064
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, what what do you mean signing

1065
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: litter that? I know? You know you gotta take this

1066
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: character range And I have no clue. I thought they

1067
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: just go out there.

1068
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: It was it was brought to you with the scope

1069
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: on it.

1070
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just thought that you put that cross

1071
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: where he's at. And because man, I had a dough,

1072
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: I hit it boom and she hunched over and I

1073
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: went crazy, and man, and it looked like a battle.

1074
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: Feel like they're just blowing all over her. You know,

1075
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: she was kind of like helping around. I just keep shooting,

1076
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: reloading four more shots in the magazine. I end up

1077
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: enting twelve shots that day. And I was like, what's

1078
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: going on? I bet everybody in that public piece was like,

1079
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: what's going on in the hall or you know? And yeah,

1080
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: to make it short, man, I never found it dough

1081
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: never did you know?

1082
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: I learned your lesson there too.

1083
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I said, Daniel. He said what happened? And

1084
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: I said, I'm means And then that's when he brought

1085
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: up like, when was the last time you saw this thing?

1086
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: So what're me in? He's like you shot at our target,

1087
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: say a deer. He's like, wait, like eight targeting and

1088
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: say I never, like I just due can wing honting.

1089
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: He was like, oh my god, no, man, it was

1090
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: like your typical goodwill twenty nine ninety nine dollars is cope.

1091
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: You know you got to try to like you just

1092
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: spend five minutes trying to find the thing and finally

1093
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: you find it. He looks awful. Yeah, I thought that's

1094
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: what he was. And it was pretty funny. It was

1095
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: a very fun experience.

1096
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: Well, Papa, listen, man, we got to get ready for

1097
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: the show. This is awesome to talk to you.

1098
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: Though, I know, man, is that this is a very

1099
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: unique opportunity. I really appreciate you guys.

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: I'd like to have you on to tell more of

1101
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: the hunting stories. But that's a good background prime right there.

1102
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: Definitely, the enthusiasm is both like jealousy inducing and motivating.

1103
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: You know, appreciate it because I think part of the

1104
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: thing that we sometimes battle, at least I do, is

1105
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: because we get to do it so much. I sometimes

1106
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: find myself like I'm like I should be more excited

1107
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: in this moment. I just got to kill an other

1108
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: beautiful mule deer buck in the mountains of whatever Western state. Man, man,

1109
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: And I'm here in the moment, but like, I don't

1110
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: have the enthusiasm that you're experiencing for shooting spikes and dose.

1111
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: Man, I get it with a dough like as we speak.

1112
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: I get lacer sharp on the moment as soon as

1113
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: that arrow or that bullet leaves. It's like a dumb

1114
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know how. And this, oh man, uh,

1115
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 2: this been the best season ever. Two bucks out of state.

1116
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: I gotta give a shot to Clay really quick. Gave

1117
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: me his bebs, got clays newcomes bebes. They didn't even

1118
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: wash them as I ain't even gonna wash them because

1119
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: it got Clay's look.

1120
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: Put him on.

1121
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: Went to Kansas by myself. Just jump on my truck

1122
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: and drop shot a buck. Color friend. They're like a man, nice,

1123
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: We're heading to Missouri, I said, can I join? Yeah?

1124
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: Went down to Missouri, shot a buck the still with

1125
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: my boat, came home and shot to one of them

1126
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: being that bay when the riba was showing y'all with

1127
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: with all of them with Kay's beebe son excellent. Man

1128
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: has something you know, I've never been supertitious, but.

1129
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: This I might have to get a parent. I want,

1130
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I want to welcome you to America.

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1132
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, welcome to me in your life. Thank

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01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: you all.

1134
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all. Thank you. How A good one