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Speaker 1: Amy Roboc and TJ.

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Speaker 2: Holmes present Killer Thriller with your host Alisa Donovan.

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Elisa Donovan here back with a new episode

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Speaker 1: of Killer Thriller. Now. I know that we are here

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Speaker 1: to feature true crime, guilty pleasure, but today we are

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Speaker 1: combining all the things we obsess about at once. My

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Speaker 1: guest is none other than nineties teen drama Queen Tory Spelling. Hi,

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Speaker 1: my friend, Hi, we're here. Tory starred as Stacy Lockwood

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Speaker 1: in the film A Friend to Die For, which was

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Speaker 1: the most watched TV movie of nineteen ninety four, and,

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Speaker 1: depending on where in the world you were watching it

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Speaker 1: or on what network, the movie was also known as

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Speaker 1: Death of a Cheerleader. The film is based on the

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Speaker 1: true story of the nineteen eighty four murder of Kirsten

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Speaker 1: Costas Pou, their high school cheerleader in Arenda, California, who

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Speaker 1: was stabbed to death by her classmate Bernadette Protty, driven

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Speaker 1: by jealousy over popularity and social status. Tory, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Killer Thriller.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Love the pop Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, I mean true I love true crime, I mean

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Speaker 2: who doesn't, And I love you. So the pairing is perfect. Yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you for that intro. I feel really good right

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Speaker 2: now coming in.

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Speaker 3: I would like to add.

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Speaker 2: It was the first TV movie that took viewers away

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Speaker 2: from Monday night football and.

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Speaker 1: Actually that is raty excellent. One night it did it.

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Speaker 3: Over football, over football.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is like something it's like almost unheard of,

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Speaker 1: like it is a highly unusual thing to do. And

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Speaker 1: every there's something about that time when people everyone watching

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Speaker 1: something at the same time. It's really powerful, like it's

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Speaker 1: a really it becomes a part of the zeitgeist. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like why people you know, that's just a great

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Speaker 3: You said zitgeist, and it was really sexy.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it againzitgeist. So playing I know this is

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, but playing a character that is

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Speaker 1: a real person and with having something so tragic happened

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Speaker 1: to them, how did you even how do you prepare

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Speaker 1: for that? Or what do you remember most about it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I know you've talked to Kelly Martin. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And we didn't realize we had the shared experience until

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Speaker 2: like years later because we became adult friends and lived

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Speaker 2: in the same community and both had pigs and.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh my gosh, I didn't know that you guys

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Speaker 3: Yes, she still has them.

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Speaker 1: You had to let it go. You had to let

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Speaker 1: the pig go.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: I will have you have a lot of children and pigs.

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Speaker 1: This just seems like too much, too much.

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Speaker 2: She makes it all work, though, but this is something

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Speaker 2: at the time. So first of all, this was it's

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Speaker 2: so hard because now it's a TV movie. Back then

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Speaker 2: we called them movies of the week.

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Speaker 1: Of the week. That's right, m ow.

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Speaker 2: I was in it to when it Nino two and

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Speaker 2: had taken off. It was a huge success. This was

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Speaker 2: the first project that I was just straight offered.

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Speaker 1: So that's an exciting feeling.

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Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, so that was really exciting.

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Speaker 2: And I remember, okay, I remember it was right after

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Speaker 2: the north Ridge earthquake. My apartment had damage to it

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Speaker 2: to kind of move out for a bit. So it

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Speaker 2: was the nineties. It was nine o two and oh

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Speaker 2: I was on Beverly Hills. I'm making apologies here. So

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Speaker 1: Of course you did, because that's what you do. When

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know any better.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, where they finished my Sorry,

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Speaker 2: this is nothing to do with what.

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Speaker 1: But well now I want to know.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't told anyone this ever, like I'm just

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I got to tell you go into work

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Speaker 2: So it was still I was doing nine o two

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Speaker 2: only because I came home from work and I was

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Speaker 2: for Death of a Cheerleader which friend to die for? Yes,

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Speaker 2: same movie, same movie anyway, send over the script and

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Speaker 2: I can see myself right now sitting at the desk,

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Speaker 2: and I had ordered room.

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Speaker 3: Service friend onion soup.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the salad soup, big fan uh, And I

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Speaker 3: Of course I was in at offer, you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not worthy. You know, I'm not Brenda, I'm

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Speaker 2: It was still like early on, still like and it's

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Speaker 3: No one's gonna believe this. So I was still in my.

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Speaker 2: Mindset of like not feeling worthy, so getting that script.

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Speaker 2: I we didn't know back then, like things based on

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Speaker 3: You do research, right, nothing.

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Speaker 1: You didn't, so you didn't know anything about SAD.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like I was like IM not going

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Speaker 2: to even do that. No, I can't even tell you.

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Speaker 2: And I remember a lot obviously details if I was

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Speaker 2: even told by my like Mandarin agent or producers when

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Speaker 1: A real girl. Oh my gosh, wait a second. So

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Speaker 1: you didn't even know that it was based on a

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Speaker 3: Maybe I was told, but I didn't know what that meant.

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Speaker 1: I think your agents are also like just say yes

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Speaker 3: My doing my research, like her, if you look.

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Speaker 1: At well, the funny thing is, well, it's not funny.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is when I was watching it

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Speaker 2: So you can see like on set there was never like, oh,

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Speaker 2: There was no conversations with makeup, hair, wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: I think also because they wanted you. They wanted people

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Speaker 2: I really feel like these were not conversations. Yeah, as

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Speaker 1: Also, even now in doing the research for this, when

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Speaker 1: and all the rear like the info that the producers

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Speaker 1: so devastating to the community. So they're really There's one

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Speaker 1: she she talks about it, saying like she would be

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Speaker 3: And I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: scan articles, Yeah, scan articles. I do remember doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like trying to be this is so like delicate,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, that's the only time I ever really knew.

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Speaker 1: I mean so so much of this is so Bernadette,

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Speaker 1: I mean we all like talk about that that feeling

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Speaker 1: of like we I think about girls as age, you know,

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Speaker 1: my daughter's thirteen, and how they can be so cruel

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Speaker 1: how that might you know, Kelly talked about it in

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Speaker 2: I being in school, I was kind of a floater,

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Speaker 2: like I was I hate it clicks, like I hate

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Speaker 2: But then I was like, I'm with like the drama

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Speaker 1: Where are you at, Philip? Where are you at? Are

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember a girl saying, yeah, someone else

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 3: Can you go talk to her?

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Speaker 1: I wonder? Well, she's apparently changed her name and lives.

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Speaker 1: And how do you ever? I mean, she also didn't

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Speaker 1: I think it was seven years, Yes, seven of the

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Speaker 2: Right? That is so I don't know that's innately in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: A character flaw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're capable or that incapable I should say,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And her sister, I wonder where her sister.

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Speaker 2: I remember at the time thinking, and of course my

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, this wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Here's how you know you would create something that's not

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Speaker 2: like the foreshadowing of the cucumber and the cutting right,

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Speaker 3: The car, but it did.

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Speaker 1: But it did.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that's so smarty. And I was like, yes.

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Speaker 1: Another one of these things just making up to make

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Speaker 2: Was like, god, that's not very good, Like they should

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Speaker 3: I remember thinking this and I'm like, okay, you do.

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Speaker 3: I'm just a hired gun here. It was a straight offer,

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wow right, So it was so unbelievable that

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Speaker 2: Valerie Harper, who played the mom, was the loveliest, most

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00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: genuinely human.

445
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh. I love hearing that.

446
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: I was really nervous because it was like, so Kelly

447
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: and I did work together, and we did.

448
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Troop Beverly Hills together, right.

449
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: And we were fourteen, right, So this is the first

450
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: time I had seen her. And in my mind I

451
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: would never say this, but I was like, oh my gosh.

452
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: When I did Troop Beverly Hills, it was like the

453
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills group and they were all like the leads

454
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: in that movie.

455
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: I was the red feather and just had a few lines,

456
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: so I didn't feel worthy, and.

457
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: They like kind of all hung together, which was probably

458
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: on purpose, you know, to get to know each other.

459
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: And I kind of would eat lunch separate me and

460
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: the other girl, the Red feathers, and in a way

461
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: it was a little click.

462
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: Yes.

463
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: And I remember telling Kelly as an adults now, like

464
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: I felt kind of like I didn't belong and I

465
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: didn't fit in. She goes, oh my god, I didn't

466
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 2: fit in, yes, And I was like, you didn't fit in?

467
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean? This is exactly what she said

468
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: to me too, And She's like, I felt as though

469
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: Tory was the cool one. She was on the cool

470
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: show that everybody loved and it was just like Edgier

471
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: And she was on the successful but like family show

472
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: that was Sunday's at seven or whatever it was, and

473
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: she felt like you were very cool and she was

474
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: insecure and that you were like, oh my popular and

475
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: like party. You would go out and do things, and

476
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: she was like the dorky kid and she's like it work.

477
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: It helped her with the character. Essentially, Yeah, that's great.

478
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Here's what I thought. I was like true Beverly Hill.

479
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: They were the cool ones. I was like the dorky one.

480
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: And then I was like wow, now like Kelly and

481
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I were equal. Yeah, you know, I was like my.

482
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Star had risen and so I didn't feel like I

483
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: was just like ooh, I belong with I just I

484
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: just I just caught up, Like finally I belong here.

485
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: So I felt really good, but in my head I

486
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: was still as you know, me, well that girl that

487
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: was like I.

488
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: Don't know, oh my god, I don't fit in. I'm

489
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: not worthy. But I was like, but I'm playing the cool.

490
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Girl straight off her.

491
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: So I was like as apart. So I just put

492
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: on a like a good run.

493
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: But I remember Valerie Harper coming into my trailer and

494
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: she was just she held my hand and she was like,

495
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: I love your dad, and she was like and I

496
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: remember kind of feeling insecure and nervous and her being like,

497
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: you're really good. You work really hard, you're really nice.

498
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: She's like, I watch what's going and.

499
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: She was just like, oh, I love and she's like,

500
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: you have this, you're great. Believe in yourself.

501
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: And she was like the first person, like another actor

502
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: to say like believe in yourself, right, like you deserve.

503
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: To be here. Oh, I love that. And do you

504
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: think she could sense that from you? And that's why

505
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: she said sense your insecurity?

506
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: I was really shy and yeah, I'm sure. I mean

507
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: something like I don't know if I'm doing okay or something.

508
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: It was probably something right that. But she like talk

509
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: about mother Head and talk about the opposite of the

510
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: character she played.

511
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: In that movie. She was so like outgoing and kind

512
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: and a.

513
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: Huge star Valerie her brother like huge, like to all

514
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: the crew, to all the casts.

515
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, she was really really great.

516
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice to hear she was. Yeah, I

517
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: mean she is definitely one of the greats.

518
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: That's so funny, Kelly thought I was like the cool

519
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: girl in my mind a.

520
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: More definitely definitely she did. Yeah, are you kidding?

521
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: I was like, life goes on. Oh my god, I'm

522
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: my god, I'm.

523
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Really isn't that funny? Like ladies? Yeah, anybody younger listening

524
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to us, please like, don't I still find this today?

525
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: This is like my lesson to myself all the time.

526
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: If I have those feelings of like insecurity or oh

527
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't like this person or she's mean or she's

528
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: not going to be I literally take a moment, like

529
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: I stop and stand still and take a breath and

530
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: go be exactly where you are right now and see

531
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: what happens. Like just really look at this situation and

532
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: step into it as who you are, like knowing who

533
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I am. It's like a I mean, I'm fifty five

534
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: and I have to do that still. You know, it's easier,

535
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: but I still have to like say, okay, you lost me.

536
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: What are you intimidated by all this?

537
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

538
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I am fifty five.

539
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I am eased in Google.

540
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: ID you know somebody on IMDb. I think when I

541
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: when they first put it up, I used to lie

542
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: about my age and said I was born in nineteen

543
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: seventy four. I think he was a Clueless because I

544
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: think when we did Clueless the movie, it was like,

545
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: don't talk about your age because you're playing sixteen or

546
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: seventeen and you're like twenty three or whatever it was.

547
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: So I think that's how it started. And then some

548
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: kid I wish I remember his name. I would look

549
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: back at IMDb and changed my date and he was

550
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: like I went to high school with her. She was

551
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: born in nineteen seventy one, and I was like, first

552
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: of all, get a hobby or get a job. Secondly,

553
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I can't believe somebody went that far to try to

554
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: change and now you know that. I said, that was it.

555
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: That was it.

556
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: It was the world began to know my true age.

557
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: His name is Jeff something I don't know, but boy,

558
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: I do remember that and being like, let's.

559
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 3: Mind him and call him.

560
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's call him. I don't think I ever had

561
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: his number, but boy, if I did, I'm gonna look

562
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah.

563
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: I wonder what he looks like. Now, Oh, high school reunions.

564
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: You go back and here like yeah, wow, okay. Two

565
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: questions to wrap it up here. Do you think that

566
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: your character in the film representing the popular girl had

567
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: any similarities to the characters written in nine o two

568
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: and zero and that era of television, I.

569
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Really don't, but I'm sure that's why I got the part.

570
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: Like too, I was popular and like it was the

571
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: cool kids at school.

572
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: In high school.

573
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: I guess it's hard for me because she is Stacy Lockwood, literally.

574
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: The opposite of Donna Martin. Like it's I was so terrified.

575
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: I remember sitting there like saying the lines on camera,

576
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: being like, I don't know, it was like nowadays, it

577
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: would be like I was on the reality show Traders,

578
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: like you're putting up this mask and pretending to be

579
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: fit in Like I just didn't feel And looking back

580
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: as an adult and watching that film, I'm like, oh

581
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: my god, I was really good in that character, Like

582
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: I played that mean girl well, but it just felt

583
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: so unnatural one being Torian two playing Donald every day.

584
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sure that is, like.

585
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Isn't It's so interesting? How uh we just really don't

586
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: have proper perception in the moment a lot of the time,

587
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: and just think.

588
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: With every line coming out of my mouth on the camera, terrified,

589
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh my god. The director afterwards

590
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: it's going to be like Tori, let's talk like we're not.

591
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, I had to be

592
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: like that confident, like you know.

593
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking and in the sense of like.

594
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: The whole shoot was terrified, just like and not being.

595
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: Able to enjoy what's happening. Yeah, like not being able

596
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: to enjoy the success of what you're doing. It's like

597
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: we put so much pressure on ourselves.

598
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: And did that night the Peninsula when I.

599
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: Got the offer, but after that and sorry, two things,

600
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I know we have to wrap the cheerleading of it all.

601
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: Uh huh, oh.

602
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: Boy, what tell me?

603
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: So I'm supposed to go in and like crush it

604
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: because I'm like the head cheer I had cheerleaders always

605
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: like you know, go in and do it and like

606
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: have it down. And Kelly is supposed to like not

607
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: be able to get the steps right.

608
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: So here's the.

609
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: Thing and whatever. I am a good free dancer, like

610
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: freestyle choreography and like steps and like getting the timing.

611
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Rate never been my thing.

612
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean you probably everyone knows that they

613
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: watched them Dancing with the Stars.

614
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: I last at one episode, but.

615
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: You get me in the club doing the worm in

616
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: the robot and I crush it, but I had to

617
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: like get it down.

618
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: So they taught us, like we had rehearsals and stuff.

619
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: I could not do it.

620
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, so just like like whatever, and I was like,

621
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, and I inside was like, oh my god,

622
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fired, like I can't.

623
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: I can't even act them.

624
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: And it was early on we filmed that scene. So

625
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, they're gonna the mask is off.

626
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 3: They're gonna sae. I'm a fraud. I can't play a popular.

627
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Cool Every night, as you're leaving there, like so don't

628
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: worry about tomorrow. You don't have to come back tomorrow. Yeah,

629
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: did you clear out your trailer? Just grab your things?

630
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: My goodness.

631
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: And then my dad tell me about your death scene.

632
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: So we filmed that all night long, and uh, I

633
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: mean I think we were there until the sun came up,

634
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: like doing all the scenes in the car and to

635
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: run right then She's so anyway, I just remember, oh god,

636
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: this is horrible. I mean, it was a horrific scene.

637
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: But the fact is I remember they were like you

638
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: have to fall a certain way and the blood and

639
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: like the night it was all like choreographed.

640
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: But I am a huge.

641
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: Horror fan and true crime fan, and I you would

642
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: think I would be able to do this.

643
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: Well. I have the worst scream.

644
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: Me too, me too, me too.

645
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: Stop it.

646
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: It's like a talent that some people have. I do

647
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: not have it.

648
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: And people have that horror film scream that you're just like, yes,

649
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: mine's like a gurgly beast and it comes out still

650
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: to this day, and I get so embarrassed, like if

651
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: something like scares me or like so it's like it's

652
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: not like that cool, like.

653
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: Right right, It's like.

654
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Ah, this is so funny because I just did a

655
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: horror comedy series last that's coming out this year, and

656
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: I had to scream twice and it was my biggest fear,

657
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Like that was my biggest nightmare. I'm like I can't

658
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: and I'm doing with people that are horror people, like

659
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: they make movies like this, and I was just like,

660
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm gonna screw it up. That's gonna be

661
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: so embarrassing.

662
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know, I don't remember it they

663
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: auto tune your scream, I don't.

664
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Speaker 3: Think they did. I know now you can AI and

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