1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: with our radio. We understand that you have waited patiently. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: We have been waiting patiently to get this podcast out 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: to you. My name is Ben in my coast. Ashley 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: will be arriving very quickly. She has been busy all 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: day doing pressed answering all the questions about the crazy 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: They're dramatic, be also exciting last episodes of this season 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. I would like to start this podcast 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: because I got the stage, and I'm all by myself 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: and and I got a moment just to talk to 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: you all. I'd like to start this this podcast by saying, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: this season of The Bachelor is one that I feel 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: like we will remember only because of these last two episodes. 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: I watched the last night from my house in Denver, Colorado, UH, 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: pretty much in awe of the most sort roller coasters. 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: This show somehow took me through once again. It really 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: is crazy to me that The Bachelor, year over year 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: over year, no matter how you know, boring, no matter 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: how uh, non dramatic, the whole season is at some 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: point and every season I find myself on the edge 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: of my seat with my hands over my space anxiously 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: awaiting the ending of the season, and last night was 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: was no different. Um. Just to quickly recap are season, 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: The Bachelor was was not without controversy. Um. You know, 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: Ari was criticized for sometimes being distant, not exactly being relatable. 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: But there's one thing that nobody ever criticized for. He 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: was always very authentic. He followed his heart throughout the 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: whole season. Um, even sometimes to to a fault, as 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: we talked about in our last episode of the podcast. 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Even sometimes when Ari could have been a little more engaging, 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: a little more exciting, a little more uh communicative, he 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: wasn't because that's not who he is. And so as 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: a result, I feel like we got to know Ari 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: for who he is, and that's an authentic, genuine person 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: who was looking for love. Uh. Last night Uh, during 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: the final episode, are we fought off for the first time, 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Ari with his his second choice, but but I guess 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: now his first choice Lauren. Uh. Lauren already got engaged 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: uh in a in a somewhat weird fashion. I kind 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: of found it. I don't know if any of you 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: did it, if you found last night's engagement just it 42 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: just still feel felt a little odd. Please email us 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: and let us know it been in Ashley at i 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: heeart media dot com. I felt, uh, just like I 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: was watching something that seemed in a sense force And 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: here's the weird part for me. I know that um 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Ari was gonna surprise Lauren with the engagement. I get that, 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: but I also saw that Kimmel knew that they were 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: getting engaged that evening. So I'm a little confused on 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: how how this all the timeline worked out. Was it 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: actually a surprise that they got engaged on after the 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: final ros or wasn't not? And if it wasn't, maybe 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that's why I just felt like that whole scenario seemed 54 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: for um But with all that being said, uh, we 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: do wish Ari and Lauren the best moving forward. Um 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, if if he did find love and if 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: she found love uh during the season as well, then 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: that's what we're here for. And we can't deny the 59 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: fact that even though it didn't work out the way 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: that it would have been the fairytale ending that we 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: would have preferred as fans of the show. Maybe the 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: fairy tale is yet to be told. In a few 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: months from now or maybe a year from now. We'll 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: be watching or or hearing about a wedding between Ari 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and Lauren at that point. Uh, this will be one 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: of the few back to success stories that we need 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: to celebrate because at the end of the day, where 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: this for one thing, and that's Love's the backtor stand on. 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: That's why the back to exists, and that's why the 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Bachtor continuing the in the future. UM. Let me read 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: an email real quick, um from Kelsey just kind of 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: relating back to the Bachlor. It says, I was curious 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: about a bachelor's secret that I was hoping you could share. 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: The final episode always takes place in a distant location. 75 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: How long does the runner up have to stay until 76 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: they're able to go home? Are they able to tell 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: their families and lean on them for support? So I 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I want to read this question now because I think 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: this kind of puts everything in perspective as we're, you know, 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: thinking about Lauren's experience on the show. After the engagement, 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the original engagement between Beck and Ari, what was Lauren 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: doing in that meantime? Did she gets to go home 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: right away? She had to be stuck on in Peru 84 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: um and And honestly, this is what happened. So the 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: final day happened, the engagement happened, and the couple UH 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: goes off into their own little hideaway for a few 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: days to kind of celebrate as a couple and take 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: a deep breath and rest and relax and kind of 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: figure out who they are a couples. The runner up 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: UH is then kind of stuck in this location until 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: that couple goes home because the big reason there is 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: because the show doesn't want any spoilers, that doesn't want 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: anything to be ruined, and so the couples all have 94 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: to kind of go home at the same time. So 95 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: doesn't look like anybody would sit home early because there's 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: a ton of paparazzi. There's a ton of people out 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: there looking for spoilers, trying to figure out and get 98 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to the bottom of this season of the show or 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: every season the show, and so yet the runner up 100 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: has to stay on location wherever that last location is 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: until the couple goes on themselves. Now if they have 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: contact with their family or not they do. UH. You know, 103 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: the show is not evil. You know, if you're broken up, 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: what they want you to be able to lean on 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: the people that you love the most. Um, and so 106 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: they do give you contact with your phone again. You 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: have your phone, you have your computer, you have a TV. 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: For the first time in a long time, you're able 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: to get back in contact with the outside world. But uh, 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: it is true that the runner up still has to 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: stay on location for a while. UM. Let me let 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: me read you another one here real quick before we 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: get into uh. And we kind of move forward until 114 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: this really exciting new season back thread that I have 115 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: stoked about, and then I can't wait to talk to 116 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you about. But but let me read an email before 117 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: that from Hannah. It's called the Final Rose Broke. First 118 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: of all, I love this podcast, Hannah said. It is 119 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: my go to podcast to listen to on my commute. 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: As we all know, this episode was a train wreck, Hannah, 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: we can all agree the hype unedited never before seeing 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: ending was unnecessary and should have been done in private. 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: As much as I stand by my statement, America could 124 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: not watch this actual dumpster fire unfold, truly, I could 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: not look away. As my mom said during this episode 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and so many episodes prior, the man needs Jesus. We 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: all need Jesus. Hannah. Come on, after I proposed and 128 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: he and Becca were backing in their happiness, already picked 129 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: up and spins her around, unfortunately damaging the roads in 130 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the process. The final literally broke tell me that it's 131 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: not some weird for chattering done by God himself. Honestly, 132 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I felt really underwhelmed with this season as a whole. 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Excited to see what comes out of the franchise next. Anyways, 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: love the podcast, Love you both, wishing you to blessings 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: on Blessings, Hannah, thank you for the email. You make 136 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: some great points, the ones that I don't think a 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: lot of people would disagree. It's actually the popular opinion 138 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: is is that, yeah, this season was a train wreck, 139 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: as most seasons kind of are. I mean, we look 140 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: back here in the last four seasons. You can go 141 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: back to next season and you can kind of see 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: the dramas unfold amongst that season and the women kind 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: of uh arguing amongst each other, and the lack of 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: friendships that existed, and then you see, you know, Nick 145 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of come out with Vanessa when when sometimes the 146 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: fan favorite was Raven. But you know, Vanessa ends up 147 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: uh standing victorious with Nick at the end, and people 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: were criticizing Nick for not choosing raven that happens you 149 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: go back to my season, I mean, you know that 150 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: crazy guys, we too women he loved them uh and 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and in love with with one woman um for the 152 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: long haul and Jojo ends up becoming one of the 153 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: most popular and bachelors of all times. We'll go back 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: again to to Caitlin's season. Uh, let's and we'll stop here. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: But you know, caitlin season was one that had some 156 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: of the most dramatic experience as an event. Let's remember, 157 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, the the the snapchat reveal that Caitlin and 158 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Sean did. Also you know Nick coming onto the season 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: halfway in and making it to the final two. UM 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: in that season was full of dramatic experiences, Caitlin said 161 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: of the state above approach um the whole time. But 162 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: every season, no matter how great or how boring or 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: how non exciting the backer backer is, every season is 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: a train wreck. We can all agree. It really just 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: comes down to is the season gonna lead to love 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: or is it not? And and hopefully this season you 167 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: know it dead leads a love no matter if we 168 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: like it or not how it played out, Hopefully it 169 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: leads to love. Uh. And then I want to just 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: talk here for a second. Your second paragraph is very thoughtful. Um, 171 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: the Final Roads literally broke? Is that some foreshadowing done 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: by God himself? Uh? You know, I did this experience 173 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: personally because I believe it was very decision dream but 174 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I I have a hard time and we can get 175 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: a pastor on the phone here in a little bit, 176 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: believing that that God would intervene in this way during 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: a show to foreshadow the final conclusion. If he did, great, Um, 178 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: But but you'd have a hard time. Hannah convinced me 179 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: of that either way. It was a little crazy. That 180 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: is has Becca picked up the Final Roads? It broke? Uh, 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and she she reached down to get it again. Unfortunately, 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: at this point, Becca is now no longer with a road. 183 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: But we're gonna move in talking about the fact that 184 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: now Becca is our back threat and America is ecstatic. 185 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't know in my three years involved in this 186 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: franchise that I've ever seen a response like this one. 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding. I was tweeting uh during 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: the first half of After the Final Roads, and I 189 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: had more people retweeting, tweeting at me, commenting at me 190 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: than I've ever had before. I think I had twenty 191 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: five thousand lights on my Twitter. I usually get somewhere 192 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: around like five two thousand, and so it's very obvious 193 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: to me that people are excited about this next season 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Beckett is definitely gonna be popular. She 195 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: should be. I mean, she is classy, she's beautiful, she 196 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: has a heart of goal, but she's she's a boss lady. 197 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: You we know going into this season that she's gonna 198 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: put her foot down, um, that she's going to make 199 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: sure that she is on a pursuit that is her 200 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: experience in her journey, and she's not gonna let any 201 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: of these guys, no matter what their antics, get in 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: the way of that. You know. Over the last twenty 203 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: four hours, um, I've gotten a lot of comments on 204 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: social media about me going back on this season, which 205 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: is interesting me. And also, you know, I kind of 206 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: think it as a compliment because if if the viewers 207 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and fans out there believed that I would a good 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: match Rebecca, that is a huge compliment to me because 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: she is really an incredible person and from what I 210 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: hear from all of her friends, what you see on 211 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: TV isn't half of as great as she is outside 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: of television, that her heart really is of gold, that 213 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: she is classy, and we saw that with this crazy breakup. 214 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: So this crazy scenario that came through over the last 215 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: few episodes of this season. UM, you know, one of 216 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: the coolest parts and one of the biggest things that 217 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: stood up to me during this last episode was, Uh, 218 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: there's this go fund me page that was started up 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: and honor of Becca so that she'd go to drink well. 220 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: It grew to six thousand people, and Becket right away 221 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: knew what you want to donate this to? She wanted 222 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: to donate to stand Up to cancer. Um. Instead of 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: taking this money for herself with she could have done 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: the go fund me pages under her name, she said, no, 225 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna donate this to stand Up to Cancer. ABC 226 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: and Chris Harrison matched it and then allowed me to 227 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: be inspired so inspired that Generous Coffee is the company 228 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: that I that I operate. We're donating all profits now 229 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: for the next uh really twenty four hours to stand 230 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Up to Cancer, which was really led by Becca and ABC. 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: And so I think there's no better way to start 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: a season of back threat that we're all anticipating that 233 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: we're all excited about, then a little act of charity, UM, 234 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: and try to get people involved in a little something 235 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: bigger than themselves. I mean, if if we're not watching 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: the show, if we're not engaged in the show as fans, 237 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: um to not only find the love story, but also 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: that hopefully all these contestants can come back and use 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: this new platform, this new given platform that they're literally 240 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: handed to do something good with. I don't know what 241 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: we're doing, um, And so I'm excited. I'm excited about 242 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. I'm not as thrilled about the bachelord And 243 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: and we'll continue to talk about that throughout the episode. 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring Gayson Mesnick in and just a little 245 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: bit we're gonna get his expert opinion on exactly what 246 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: went down, um with this situation, kind of hear his 247 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: thoughts on how ari he could have done a better UM. 248 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I also want to hear from Jason, you know, what 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: is it gonna be like for our now moving forward 250 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: with Lauren? Uh, you know, kind of being for lack 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: of a better word, their new relationship not being celebrated. 252 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be difficult? What is his tips for 253 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: Ari on how to get through it? What is this 254 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: tip for maybe Laurence on how to support and get 255 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: through this situation. So we're gonna bring Jay Domestic onto 256 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: the podcast here a little bit. I'm ecstatic to hear 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: from him. I mean, I don't think there's any better 258 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: person to hear from when it comes to this scenario 259 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: than Jason himself. 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Let's keep 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: moving on here, UM, we really want to hear your thoughts. 313 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this whole season has felt weird 314 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: at the you know, almost famous podcast, all the way 315 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: up to after the final road I think asking I've 316 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: had a hard time connecting with this season, um, and 317 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: last night really was no different. Uh. You know, I 318 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: watched last night's episode kind of anticipating, um some closure, 319 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: uh maybe some answered questions, and the really the only 320 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: answered question I got was one from R that I 321 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: was really hoping again. And I don't know if any 322 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: of you caught it out there. Um Art made a 323 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: statement that I really believed he meant. So the question 324 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: was asked him why did he do the breakup on campus? 325 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Something that America has been asking ever since we watched 326 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: on television and people from all over Bachelor Nations, former 327 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Bachelor contestants, uh, massive journalism, massive newspapers uh, popular journalists 328 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: have all questioned, why in the world was this shown 329 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: on camera? Why would Ari agree to this? I've asked 330 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: that same question, and Are said something last night that 331 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: I believe he meant. Um that I could actually semi 332 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: relate with and I want to talk about a little bit, 333 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Arid says as he's talking to Becky, he goes, I 334 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: did it on camera because I wanted to show the 335 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: world that this was on me. So if that was 336 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: his intentions, we can't question is we should believe that 337 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: he is telling the truth because I don't know Ari personally. 338 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: We've we've never really been able to talk other than 339 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: on this podcast. Everybody has talked to you that knows Ari. Uh, 340 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, other than the women on a season really 341 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: like Ari. And and we'll get into, you know, how 342 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: the other women on the season feel in a second. 343 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: I have my theories for Zett. So if Ri is 344 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: going to say that, let's just assume, but he's completely 345 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: telling the truth. The issue I have is that if 346 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: he was going to put it on himself, his conversation 347 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: with Second didn't feel like it. You all agree. I mean, 348 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: that's my biggest thing is we watched the breakup two 349 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: nights ago. It just felt like Ari he wasn't putting 350 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: on himself. I felt like he was putting on Becca 351 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: or he's putting it more on just his his conflicted feelings. 352 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't saying, Hey, this is on me. I'm owning this. 353 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: This is a really unfortunate situation. There was really no 354 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: emotion show, but Ari he did ask the question that 355 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: we've all been wondering, why in the world was a 356 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Shawn on camera? And he says that he believed that 357 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: showing on camera would solidify that this was his fault, 358 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: that this was his problem to deal with, that this 359 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: was his burden to carry. And I mean, let's all 360 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: be honest. During that breakup, there's two things that happened. 361 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Everybody turned against Sar and everybody turned towards second. So 362 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: if Ari's intention was to put this on himself, maybe 363 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: he did do this. Well, maybe this did work, And 364 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: maybe him doing this let us and now have Becca 365 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: as going to the season probably the most love, most cherish, 366 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: most congratulated um Bachelorette that we've we've ever had. I 367 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: think that, no matter how this played out in the 368 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: last few episodes of it was weird or not, Um, 369 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: by already doing the break of on camera allowed us 370 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: all to fall in love with Decca a little bit 371 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: more and wish for her that this next season the 372 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: Bachelorette is one that we can look back on and 373 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: say it was a success story, because I truly believe 374 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: it will be. I think Becca is ready from everything 375 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: I hear she's ready, and I hear this from all 376 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: over front. I had the opportunity and I just to 377 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: spend some time with some of the women that were 378 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: on our season The Bachelor, and I typically don't get 379 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: to do this, but they're all there for the first 380 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: after the final rows, and we're staying the same hotels, 381 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: so we're able to talk awhile. And it's always interesting 382 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: to me that to kind of hear the perspective of 383 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: the men and women that get off the season. Um, 384 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: most of the time, I feel like these men and 385 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: women that get off of this season really have a 386 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: dislike towards the Bachelor Bachelor, and that's honestly, it's a 387 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: little unfortunate because the one thing that happens during this 388 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: show is that often times there's heartbreak. Uh there's really 389 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: heartbreak for everybody except one person, and that's the person 390 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: standing this in and in our situation, everybody felt heartbreak 391 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: at some point. And so let's break this down for 392 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: a second. You know, we watched it last night on 393 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: on after the Final Rose, that you know, these women 394 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: were kind of had a distaste towards our and I 395 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: get that, right, I get it because they all have 396 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: one thing in common. They've all been broken up with 397 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: by our Uh just like the guys during Racil season, 398 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: we're all broken up with by Rachel. But I feel 399 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: like I feel like this season was a little different 400 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: most seasons, there isn't this incredible um as towards the bachelorbata. 401 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: But but but last night we saw I think it 402 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: was five of Becca's friends sit up on stage and 403 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: really celebrate her but really now talk highly of our. 404 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if there's more to that than just 405 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: the fact that they got broken up. But I'm wondering 406 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: if there is more to this season. Um and they're 407 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: just taste that causes their just pastewords are and what 408 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: we saw, um, but it happens every season. This isn't uncommon. 409 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: The women on on my season, Uh, we're all very 410 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: angry with me, even so my friends that I call 411 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: friends today, Uh, some you know, my closest friends. Like 412 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: that gets Tilly. She'll tell you, Yeah, there was a 413 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: moment there where she was really upset with me. And 414 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: I get that because you're getting broken up with and 415 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: relationships are ending. But let's keep us in the perspective 416 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: that everybody, as I said earlier, is getting broken up 417 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: with during this season except for one person that's the 418 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: baster back thread. Sometimes do not have an easy way 419 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: to turn that. It would be great if everybody isn't 420 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: up happy, but it's just not gonna happen. And so 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: my request or what I would desire for any bacheor 422 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: Bachelor right from here in the future is that they 423 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: just do it with respect and dignity. And I, you know, 424 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if I did that or not. I 425 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: guess that's up to you. Also, again, please email us 426 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: that been an actually at I hurt Me dot Com. 427 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Let us know if you feel like Ari's breakups we're 428 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: done with dignity, um, if there is respect done with him, 429 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: if you felt like he explained himself well enough. Because 430 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I remember going back and and this was one of 431 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: the hardest parts about the Bachelor for me is there 432 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: was very few days that I didn't shed a tear. Um, 433 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: not because I have a big soft heart and I'm 434 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: super sensitive, just because you get tired of hurting people 435 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: all time. You feel like from day one to the 436 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: very last day. All you do every day is you 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: have to hurt somebody. You have to stay goodbye to somebody. 438 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: You have to tell somebody that they're no longer wanted there, 439 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: and that hurts. You get really good at breaking up 440 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: with people, and as a result, you get really bad 441 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: at keeping a soft heart in your heart can easily 442 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: get hardened. And I think for all of us out there, 443 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: is we're watching this season kind of come to an end, 444 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: we have to remember that Ari is now starting to 445 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: recover in an emotional place that he he hasn't been 446 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: in three months. He's finally able to be happy publicly. 447 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Let's think about that. For the first time in three months, 448 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: Ari is able to be happy publicly. He's now I 449 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: believed that was Lauren by his side, and it has 450 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: felt like last night, and I think I tweeted this out. Um, 451 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: Lauren is there for the long haul. She's sitting next 452 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: to her man and she's saying, all right, I've got 453 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: your back. I know this was hard, I know you 454 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: made a mistake, but I've got you. And I think 455 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: he's looking at her hopefully saying, Lauren, I've got your back. 456 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: I know this has been hard. I know I made 457 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: a mistake, but I love you, and I hope that 458 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: is the thought process that he has going into the 459 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: rest of their relationship. Is I mean, what an incredible 460 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: partner to have for Lauren to look at him last 461 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: night and say, you know what, this is a really 462 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: hard situation for him, and I'm just glad that he 463 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: ends up with me in the end. I mean, I 464 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: I just felt this like unending, unnerving love and support, 465 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: uh that she was you know, portraying last night and 466 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: and exuding in their relationship. And I mean, if that's 467 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: the case, if they can give that to each other, 468 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: or you can get that back to Laurence. I mean, 469 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: this relationship is one that we might want to watch. 470 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: It could be one that is a love story. Uh 471 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: that kind of mirrors are good buddy Jason, who, as 472 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: I said, will be on this podcast later. So there's 473 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions for Jason coming up. We're all 474 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: excited to hear from. Actually, we'll be coming in the 475 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: studio here pretty soon. Um. But before we do, UM, 476 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: I want to kind of take these last few minutes 477 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: here that I have all by myself and just kind 478 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: of hype up this next season, the back threat. We 479 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: have a we have a couple of months to wait. Uh, 480 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: they'll start filming this season here in the next week 481 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: or so. Um. You know we we got to meet 482 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: a couple of Becca's men last night, so over impressive. Uh. 483 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think they're all pretty nervous. What a 484 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: weird situation to be in where you know, before you know, 485 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: you're standing out on stage on national television, on live television, 486 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: and you're introducing yourself to what could be your future wife. UM. 487 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: I felt like the guys did a fine job. They 488 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: all seem pretty confident. All of them seem a little nervous. 489 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: I thought the first guy with the accent, he stayed 490 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: a little long. I started to get that awkward feeling 491 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: like okay, you can go now. Um. But again, like 492 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: he has nothing to compare this to. Uh last night, 493 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: And I've got to talk to Dean about this before. 494 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Dean Ungler who has a podcast Without Heart Radio as well, 495 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: and it's a good buddy of mine. Um, I talked 496 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: to you a couple of weeks ago about, you know, 497 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: what it was like to go out on stage because 498 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: if you remember, right for for Rachel's season, Dean was 499 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: one of those original guys that went out on stage 500 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: during after the final rows and introduced himself to her. Um, 501 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: And I asked him what it was like, and it was, 502 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it literally happens like this. The producers, you know, have 503 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: already chose you to be on the season. Um, You're 504 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: you're kind of in waiting to to enter into the 505 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: mansion or step out the limone introduce yourself. And they 506 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: call you up and they say, hey, tonight, the Bachelorette 507 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be at a live show. We want you 508 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: to introduce yourself to her. You know, we're gonna come 509 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: pick you up in a car, get your stud on, 510 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: let's go. And and so we have to give these 511 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: guys some grace last night. But what it did show 512 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: is there's a couple of guys there that, you know, 513 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: I did think Becca was interested, or at least her 514 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: friends in said, we saw the reaction of all her 515 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: friends and then they seem thrilled about a couple of 516 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: these guys. Um, so throw off at a hot, hot start. Uh. 517 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: And I don't question that this whole season from here 518 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: on out will be one that people will not only watch, 519 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: but they really cheer Rebecca, and we need that invest 520 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the nation. We need a season that we can really 521 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: get behind that We want to rise this journey out 522 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: with somebody from the start to finish. We want to 523 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: laugh at the very beginning of the season when people 524 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: are doing outrageous and quirky things, and we want to 525 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: cry with them in the middle, when their hearts broken 526 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: and their hearts being pulled in a thousands of directions, 527 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: and we want to celebrate with them at the very end, 528 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: when when hopefully a potential engagement happens, or at least 529 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: a love story exists. We need that backination because we 530 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: haven't had it now for a few months, and I 531 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: think that Becky's season will will definitely definitely bring that. 532 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: UM want to stop for a second and read an email, 533 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: UM kind of calling out on somebody that I would 534 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: now call his friends. UM, And so I want I 535 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: want to approach this and and speak to this email 536 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: says the emails titled not a fan of Caroline from 537 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: Ash Matt Astley, I Connettie this Ash. It says, it's 538 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: super unfortunate, but y'all had Caroline on. Seems like she's 539 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: stuck in duck is pain from all it's worth by 540 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: being the one in the know. You can even hear 541 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: on Ben's Instagram story tonight, some comment is made and 542 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: someone goes to Caroline, what's going up your followers? Seems 543 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: like she was disappointed, she got kicked off too soon 544 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: and found a way to get back into the fold 545 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: and got fortunate to be someone in the know. Even 546 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: listening to this episode, she talked over all other women 547 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: in the studio just to get more airtime. She even 548 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: said in regards the breakup footage, I kind of needed this. 549 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: People are in my d N like be more selfish 550 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: and stuff self service reads. The absolute egotistical mindset are 551 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: is terrible. But he called one thing, Actually, these girls 552 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: are just finishing their trouts for Best in Paradise. The 553 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: desperation is palpable from here, glad to ask me and 554 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Ben still still still seem to stay above some of 555 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: this juvenile, juvenile desperation after being passed their new found 556 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: fame as well, asked, I did just do back during 557 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: Winter Games. So I can't completely say that I've gotten 558 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: out of the Bachelor franchise, but I get what you're saying, uh, 559 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: And it's it's been said a lot and I think 560 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: there's been a few jokes made, is that this You know, 561 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: it seems like this show is turning into a constant 562 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: try out to you to be in Bachelor in Paradise 563 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: or to be the next Batch or of Bachat. But 564 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: what other options do you have? I mean, honestly, Uh, 565 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: this world kind of stocks you up in it, right. So, 566 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: so if we start at the beginning of each season, 567 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: everybody's on equal playing field. Everybody shows us the mansion 568 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: to date, either the bat or Bachat. Once you get 569 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: kicked off, Um, you know, you're excited to watch the season. 570 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: You're you're anxious to be on television. You're anxious to 571 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: see your story unfold. And so you sit there with 572 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: your family and your friends are all asking you about it, 573 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: and they're getting you hyped about it. You're excited about 574 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: it before you know it. Uh. And this is this 575 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: is the balance that everybody has to take. And and 576 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: I'll speak to this and and my insight into this 577 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: here in a second. But the balance nobody has to 578 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: take it uh, to not let this become your identity. 579 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, because of the excitement, and because some people 580 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: get overwhelmed, and and because they're getting so much pressure. 581 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: Fronnounced their world. The bachelor or Bachelorrette ends up being 582 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: the only thing you ever talked about, the only thing 583 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: you ever think about, the only thing you really think 584 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: has given you any type of excitement in life, because 585 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: it's such a new and weird experience that has shown 586 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: you this new side of life, you know. For me, 587 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: it was my very first time ever out of l 588 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: A was on the Bachelorette, So all of a sudden, 589 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: I spoke to l A and I stooked a mansion 590 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: and there's cameras, and then when I get kicked off, 591 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: there's there's articles written about me, and my family's asking 592 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: me about it, and I'm going through not only a 593 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: breakup at the time, but I'm also trying to process 594 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the fact that now people know me and weird small 595 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: talents all across the US, and it becomes not only 596 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: um sobering because you realize how small the world really is, 597 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: but also becomes almost eufork in the sense of, Wow, 598 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: I've done something that people now recognize, So I get it. 599 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: And we've got to give everybody, anybody, even if the 600 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Business of the Deaths does the show, but we have 601 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: to also stand beside them and support them and keep 602 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: them accountable. Effect that if the Bachelor or Bachelor at 603 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: is what you're known for, if that's through your identity exists, 604 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: and you've made a great mistake that anybody out there 605 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: that has done anything like the Bachelor Bach Threat before 606 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: let's even break this down to your job, to your score, 607 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: if your identity is in those things, then you need 608 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: to take a step back. You need to realize that 609 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: those things cannot be idols in your life. And I think, unfortunately, 610 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: because of the world and the format and that the 611 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: Bachelor and Best Threat presents to each contestant, it does 612 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: become uh something that people don't or have a hard 613 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: time leaving until let's let's go back to the email 614 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: here and talk about Calin for a second. I got 615 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: to spend some time with Caroline Um over the last 616 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: few days. She was nothing but great to me. Um. 617 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: She was funny, UM, she was articulate. We we laughed, 618 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: we joked, she was open and honestly, she talked very 619 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: little about the show. Um. What she talked about most 620 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: was her excitement Rebecca and also her sadness Rebecca going 621 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: through this breakup. She just talked about her statinus for Ari, 622 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: that she she has a heart for our right now 623 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: because she doesn't want him to feel alone, that she 624 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: doesn't want him to suffer. Um, but she's still up sat. 625 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, her friend got broken up with and so 626 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: of course she's in the right to express that. You know, 627 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: if if one of my friends was hurt, I would 628 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: hope that I would stand up for them and say 629 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: I I don't like what happened. I don't think this 630 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: is fair. But let's not assume that Caroline is doing 631 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: this just um for her own self promotion. I think 632 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: that's the first draft. Actually, you know, we we all 633 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: know that Caroline could potentially um the ambassador in Paradise 634 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: uh here soon. But it was my understing that she 635 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: doesn't she doesn't even accepted it yet or I don't 636 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: even know if she's been asked, and so we can all. 637 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to judge, and it's easy to 638 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: expect the worst that each one of these contestants. UM, 639 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: but we can't do it. We got we were fans 640 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: of the show. Let's not judge these contestants based on 641 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: a few things they say on a live show. Okay, 642 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: especially somebody like Caroline whose friends with Becca. She came 643 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: into our podcast, UM, and I appreciate it. I don't 644 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: actually appreciate it. She came into our podcast to talk 645 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: about whatever was going on in that world. And I 646 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: know for us, anytime anybody steps into to help us 647 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: with our podcast, uh, we want them to speak openly, 648 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: we want them to speak comfortably. And that's exactly what 649 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: she was doing. Did she talk over that woman? I mean, 650 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're all pretty excited trying 651 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: to get their voices out. Um. But from here and out, 652 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: when people come in, um and speak on our podcast, 653 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: we we know we've had our issues in the past 654 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: and we've learned our lessons. We hope that is a 655 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: place where you can kind of just take a deep breath, 656 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: speak openly, speak honestly, and hey, Drew upset about something 657 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: in the franchise, Let's talk about it, because honestly, Uh, 658 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: that's what people want to hear. Anyway, that's what you 659 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: want to hear, asked. 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But I know you're talking to an audience, 712 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: but it's like incredible how you can just talk to 713 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: an audience so naturally when they're not in front of you. 714 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: In reality, it's amazing. I talked to myself often, so 715 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: it kind of correlates. Really, are you one of the 716 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: guys that talks out loud to himself around the house. 717 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm an only child. Actually, I live alone. 718 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: I drive in my car all the time. I talked 719 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: to myself often. I have great conversations. I've actually prept 720 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: for this podcast now for the last few days because 721 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: I walk in my house like, sorry, what the heck 722 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: were you thinking? That is so funny, it's so cute. 723 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: You're so good, and I think you need to get 724 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: into the ministry, like you need to do sermons. You 725 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: really could have your own podcast where you just talk 726 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: about virtue all day and I would be encouraged to 727 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: be a better person just by listening to you talk 728 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: to yourself. Oh. Actually, you're the sweetest you always have been. 729 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: It's good to it's good to have you in the studio. 730 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: I know today has been a crazy day. You following up, 731 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: I started the podcast by letting everybody know that you've 732 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: done pressed and you've answered a thousand questions about this 733 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor in the last two episodes, and 734 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: so thanks, uh, thanks for coming in, because I know 735 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: you're probably tired, and you're also probably tired of talking 736 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: about The Bachelor. But I got good news for you. 737 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: The day is the last, really, I'm sure I did. 738 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: And then from here on out, for every episode coming 739 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: up from this week, board, you and I are going 740 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: to open up some of our favorite segments again, like 741 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: who the heck are you? We're gonna talk about our 742 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: dating live, We're gonna talk about love life outside of 743 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: the Backtor franchise. Are you gonna be honest about your 744 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: love life outside. Yeah, I'll be as honest as I 745 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: want to be. Ashley, Well, I'm gonna put you on 746 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: the spot the Sting next week because I'm getting a 747 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: lot of tweets about how people were so excited when 748 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: you asked Cianne that what you were talking to Seanne about, 749 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: like you know how you're going to do her season 750 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette, And then you politician, you just knew 751 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: how to swerve around and not answer that question directly. 752 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: But everybody, maybe one day I'll open up in honesty. 753 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: But hey, thanks for stopping in. I'm gonna hand this 754 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: off to you because I have a Generous coffee and 755 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: he meaning hope event that I have to go speak out, 756 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a few minutes late already, i gotta run. 757 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm in Cincinnati, Ohio right now. I gotta go speak 758 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: because Generous is blowing up after last night's episode of 759 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, when Becca said that she would donate the 760 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: stand up to cancer, I said Generous would as well. 761 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: Now Katie Kerk has retweeted about Generous and Katie kerrit 762 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: fifty bags of Generous coffee today. Um, Holy freaking is 763 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: that's huge. I'm freaking out, and so now I have 764 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: to go speak at this event and try to raise 765 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: a little money, uh for some communities around the world, 766 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: and still some generous coffee or at it. So I apologize. Actually, 767 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: but it's now your times not only talked to our 768 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: good buddy Jason mesnick Um, but also yourself for a 769 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: little bit. You do that. Yeah, maybe I'm gonna try. 770 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: I wrote notes and I think it's gonna take me 771 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. All right, sounds good. Hey everybody there, 772 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: all of our listeners again email actually hurt me dot com. Actually, 773 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: I love you happy birthday yesterday. You're one of the 774 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: best people I know. And we'll talk to him. Thanks, 775 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: love you bye. All right, So we have a couple 776 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: of minutes before Jason's on the phone. So because I'm 777 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: sure you guys are all dying to know when I 778 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: felt about last night, I will let you in on this. Um. 779 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's villainizing Ri. I'm tired of villainizing Ari. He made 780 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, but we can't harp on it forever. 781 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: This maybe exactly what Ben had said before I walked 782 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: into the studio. So I'm sorry if it is. Um, 783 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: I think it's funny because I think people expect that 784 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the Bachelor love stories need to be the most idealized 785 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: love stories, but they are. They can be as messed 786 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: up as our own real life love stories. Um. Nothing 787 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: goes smoothly there. Hearts are always broken. Um. As Jamie 788 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: Sullivan once said, if there wasn't suffering, would there be 789 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: any compassion? And I feel like heartbreak makes us stronger. 790 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: It gets us to know ourselves better and betters ourselves 791 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: for our future relationships down the line. So, you know, 792 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: are messed up and his love story is not traditional, 793 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: but let's like let them live because they seem really 794 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: really happy. And yeah, it wasn't our chick flick. We 795 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: didn't get that this season. Unfortunately, maybe Becca will deliver 796 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: something that makes our hearts pound in in like giddiness. 797 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: But let's just leave him alone because it's just love 798 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: isn't always pretty. But we'll just see what happens. We'll 799 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: just see what happens. And I think that's what they want. 800 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: All they're asking for is like give him a chance. 801 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to talk to to Mesnic because 802 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: that's a beautiful role model for them to have eight 803 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: years of marriage to kids. Do we think Mesnic handled 804 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: it better or worse? Um? I never saw mesnic season. 805 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was the first season. That was 806 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: the last season I didn't watch. So I started watching 807 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: Ali's season right after his so O, no, no, that 808 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: was Jake. Oh wait, no, that was what's his name, 809 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: the pilot? Jake? Yeah. So I started watching a year 810 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: and a half after, after the shocking thing, and I 811 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: rewatched it recently. About Mesnic is that he I think 812 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: Melissa had some clue that he was going to end 813 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: things with her on the after the final Rose, but 814 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Molly had any idea that he was 815 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: doing that and that he was going to say I 816 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: want another chance. Okay, so you're saying the difference is 817 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: that Molly didn't. Oh yeah, So the difference is that, 818 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's equally kind of terrible. No, it's not. 819 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: It's not because because Mesnic didn't feel anything for Melissa anymore, 820 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: and he was willing to end that relationship even if 821 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: he thought that Molly wasn't going to be down. Correct, 822 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: I would say that that is a fair statement. You 823 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: could ask him about that, because he hadn't like pursued Molly, 824 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: he really didn't know if she was going to say 825 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: yes or no, and the genuine sort of like shock 826 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: on her face of I'm on camera. I don't know 827 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: what to do here. I've wanted this to happen because 828 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: I love this dude, but what is happening? Like it 829 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: was very different than this in the same sort of situation, 830 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: but in the same way. Both women are going to 831 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: have to deal with their potential husbands um having picked 832 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: another woman over them at some point in their lives. 833 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: But everybody has to deal with that really in life. 834 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: That's true except for some times, but usually you don't 835 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: know the parts who've never dated anyone else. You've probably 836 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: got a past, and so do they that's probably probably 837 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't break up with you on camera and they weren't 838 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: dating you at the same time. Although I'm sure there's 839 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: people out there who are dating two people at the 840 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: same time. They go at one and then they're like, 841 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and then they switched. I bet you know, 842 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: I bet you There are plenty of real life people. 843 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: So that's something you guys should think about. And also 844 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: just like think about all the marriages that come from 845 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: friendships and it's like that person was in your life 846 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: for so long, but you're probably dating people before you 847 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: realize that that was your person. So it's kind of 848 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: the same. I don't know, it's kind of the same thing, 849 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: but it kind of every sort of He really kind 850 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: of blew it. At the same time, I think he 851 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,280 Speaker 1: seemed really nice yesterday. I have no problem with him whatsoever. 852 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's cool because if you really break it down, 853 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: he was engaged, he was about to get engaged to 854 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: one of them. It could have gone either way. Had 855 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: he just picked Lauren and been on his merry way, 856 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: we'd all be bored and fine. Yeah, so it's like, so, 857 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: thank sorry for giving you a little excitement over the 858 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: past two days. Well we got where we were going 859 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: to go anyway. Yeah. Um, interesting questions I just came 860 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: about with. Have no idea. I wonder if, like during 861 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: that final two if he would have said, Rebecca, would 862 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: you rather be the bachelorette or would you rather me 863 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: propose to you that I'd rather you propose to me. 864 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I don't know that, I'm sure. 865 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. It takes me a lot longer to 866 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: get over things. Years in fact, so for her to 867 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: sort of snap back so quick, it takes me forever 868 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: to But I will say I can I never really 869 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: get over something until the next next guy. Absolutely, I 870 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: don't think I ever get over a guy until I 871 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: find a new one. I mean, you do intend that 872 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: you can live life, but you don't kind of ready, yeah, 873 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: but you still are daydreaming about the last guy, or 874 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: you don't fully close the book. Or you also don't 875 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: realize how terrible they were, because I didn't realize how 876 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: terrible someone was that I was dating until I dated 877 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: someone amazing. Ari and Laurence said during press today that 878 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: they do want to get married on TV if the 879 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: opportunity is there, uh um, and if you know that 880 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: sort of lots. I don't think that they're going to 881 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: be one of ABC's like most sought after couples to 882 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: get married. I'm pretty sure they want Jojo to get 883 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: married on TV. I don't know if they're going to 884 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: care about Ari and Lauren getting married on TV. What 885 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: is the word for that audacious that The question was 886 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: probably would you get married on TV if ABC offered 887 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: it to you? And they said yes? Well, speaking of weddings, 888 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: Zola is the wedding company that will do anything for love. 889 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: They are reinventing the wedding planning and registry experience to 890 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: make the happiest moment in a couple's life even happier. 891 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: From engagement to wedding and decorating your first home. Zola 892 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: is there. They combine compassionate consumer service with modern tools 893 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: and technology, all in the service of love. 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Yes, So apparently 911 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: on Monday night they didn't watch the finale, which is understandable, 912 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: but instead they played a quiet game of Yatzi so 913 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: board games for the lovely boring. Sure you could get 914 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: that on. So to sign up with Zola and receive 915 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: a fifty dollar credit towards your registry, go to Zola. 916 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: That is ze o l a dot com slash almost famous. 917 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: That is z o l a dot com slash almost famous, 918 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: in a fifty dollar credit towards your registry zolo dot 919 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: com almost famous. I'm gonna go get Maya my gifts 920 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: for them there. That's awesome, all right. Well, it sounds 921 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: like Jason Mesnick, the predecessor to Ari, is now on 922 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: the line. Jason, what's going on? Jason? Um, I met 923 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: you briefly at Jaden Tanner's wedding. Didn't watch your season, 924 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: So pardon me if I'm a little uneducated Amy will 925 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: fill in my gaps. Um. I was trying to sort 926 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: of explain the difference in the way you handled it 927 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: and in the way he handled it. How do you 928 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: sort of sum that up? Well, we all know that 929 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: Jason is very emotional. There hence the other mesnic. You 930 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: you have coined two things now in the franchise. There's 931 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: the mesnic you crying over the balcony, and now there's 932 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: the mesnic, which is the switchero. Yeah. Well hopefully that's 933 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: the r Now you can take that, would you you 934 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: would rather? Of course the sobbing. Yeah, it's fine. Everyone 935 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: loves a man in touching somebody, you know, feel terrible 936 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: on National TV. Yeah alright, so talk about how you 937 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: feel like you handled the situation differently. Uh, you know, 938 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know if if if I 939 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: think I really did, because when I think about what 940 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: happened one yeah, and I read something already did this 941 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: movie said this morning is that he was trying to 942 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: give um back at the opportunity to be the bachelorette. 943 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: And that doesn't just come from his mind. And what 944 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean by that is they said the same thing 945 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: to me. So I called the producers. You know, this 946 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: is like fifty years ago, and I did it. Um. 947 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: So I called the producer and I said, hey, you know, 948 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: so Melissa and I aren't working out, Can I, you know, 949 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: have a shot with Molly because I'm just really curious? 950 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: And they said, okay, so yes, but we've asked Mollie 951 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: to be the Bachelorette. So there's two conditions. One you 952 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: need to do this on TV because otherwise Molly is 953 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: going to go forward and be the bachelorette. And two, 954 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: we need Melissa, so the other girl, to be the Bachelorette, 955 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: and we need her to be emotional, so the audience 956 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 1: falls in love with her and everybody's part out to her. 957 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: So when I think about you know, you know, I 958 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 1: think the difference is how the producers and ABC decided 959 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: to air it. Right, So mine was like I think 960 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: they were they had learned a little bit, but they 961 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: also wanted everybody to feel Rebecca, so they could put 962 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: her on you know, a pedestal, but like the place 963 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: she in some sense they wanted her. So the audience 964 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: falls in love with her, and they come back next 965 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: season even stronger than and before as a viewership. Right, 966 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: and that's what they were trying to do with Melissa too, 967 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: But you know, Molista already had some debts in her life. 968 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: So if you didn't want to do it, I don't like, 969 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know how different it is. 970 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the appearance is different, and maybe 971 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 1: the words conveyed are different. Were you not I felt 972 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: like you ended with Melissa before you sort of told Molly, 973 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: whereas I feel like he was dabbling with Lauren feeling 974 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: it out. It was probably a piece of that, Like 975 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Melissa and I both had known that it was over, 976 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: and the TV, yeah, I mean we had talked. We 977 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: had talked about that, but I mean the way that 978 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: it was portrayed. I think the only difference. I mean, 979 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: viewers might see it differently, um if they remember who 980 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: I am, But I mean I think the view is like, hey, 981 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: we did ours on set, a close set because it 982 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: hadn't happened before, and this one was, you know, in 983 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: wherever house that they were flown into and their their 984 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: getaway weekend. So what you were saying about us needing 985 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: to fall in love with Becca is something that I've 986 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: been kind of spewing out all week long. That's in 987 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: my opinion, why they showed the entire break up the 988 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: way they did. I want to know why you and 989 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: apparently Alrea went to production with this dilemma that you 990 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: were having. You're like, this isn't gonna last. What do 991 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: you guys suggest me do? And I just feel like 992 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: sometimes production would be the last person I'd go to 993 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: because the last people I go to, because sometimes I 994 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 1: would wonder if they were putting their interest before mine. 995 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: So I think going back to it, and like I 996 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: was actually writing the moat on the plane, just kind 997 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: of think about, you know how my experience it was 998 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: different or similar to already. And I mean like when 999 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: I think about my experience there there are two times 1000 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: that I knew not to go to production and not 1001 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: talk talk about it with anybody, and it was that 1002 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: was one at the two times. But you know and 1003 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: like it actually come with it. But until you go 1004 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: through and be like the bats are bachlor at. They 1005 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: are asking you for help, right, They're asking you to 1006 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: go on dates with people that you don't want to 1007 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: go on dates with. They're asking you to hold hands 1008 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: of people you want to go on cold hands with, 1009 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: because realistically, if you walk literally just ask you this. 1010 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: If you walk into a bar and there are five 1011 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: guys in that bar, how many do you think you 1012 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: would be you would be in you could be in 1013 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: a relationship with honestly to at best zero, at very 1014 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: very best, but most likely zero. Okay, so somewhere between 1015 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: zero and two. So I would say the same thing 1016 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: with anybody who's the Bachelor and bachlor at it would 1017 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: be between zero and I give it three. There's somewhere 1018 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: between zero and three. So within the first week, right 1019 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 1: when you're put in this position, within the first week, 1020 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: you know you're top two or three. Yeah, and the 1021 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: rest is just, hey, you know, we've got to make 1022 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: a TV show. And realistically, ABC is paying the productive 1023 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: producers two million dollars every week to make a show, 1024 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: and so you can't do that. There's no way you 1025 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: can do that. And so the producers are and they 1026 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: have to be. Sometimes they're pretending to be your friends. 1027 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes they are your friends. But the one thing they're 1028 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: doing is trying to build trust. And so when you 1029 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: go through that whole experience, you're not supposed to. They 1030 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: tell you not to talk to anybody like you sign 1031 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 1: this giant contract. There's the heck out of you, right, 1032 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: And the bottom line is you I feel like the 1033 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: only people you can talk to are the producers because 1034 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: they're calling you there. They're pretending to try to check 1035 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: in with you throughout this whole experience after the finished filming. 1036 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: So in the real world, you're right, you shouldn't call 1037 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: the producers, But in this bubble world, there are the 1038 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: only people that you've ever talked to about all this stuff. 1039 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: So they're the only people that you feel understand. What's 1040 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: so funny is that here I am I questioning this 1041 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: for you, But then when I think about my own 1042 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: relationships that started out on the show but now have 1043 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: developed off the show throughout the past two years to 1044 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: three years, I always go to them. They're always the 1045 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: ones that I feel like ending to the most. I 1046 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: don't think anybody else until I mean, you probably understand it. 1047 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: Just like I remember as a cast member on the 1048 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 1: Name Forever going the Bachelorette, I remember staying up tamperly 1049 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: every single night going, Okay, what do you guy with 1050 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: the producer? What are you guys trying to do? What 1051 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: are you guys trying to get us to stay? Like? 1052 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: And they would kind of dig in with me saying, hey, 1053 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: what do you know about this guy? This guy have 1054 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: a girlfriend back at home. So everybody's kind of digging 1055 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: in with each other. But at the end of the day, 1056 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: their job is to befriend you. Who was your girl? 1057 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: I can't even remember who was the bachelorette when you 1058 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: were on it. Um, Marilyn Monroe, the AA PAPIs oh 1059 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: so funny. Who's a total twist to me because she 1060 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: married a bachelor guy's brother. Oh yeah, weird, But that's 1061 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody really like and I'm 1062 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: not going to make excuses Ferri and I, but like 1063 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: until you're in there, and like everybody, I mean, everybody 1064 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: is gonna a producer is gonna want this to happen, 1065 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: right because everybody's talking about it every news news outlet. 1066 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: So they want the conflicted guy or girl to be 1067 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: confused and do this on TV. It's great for the show, 1068 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: right of course, by by a hundred times it is 1069 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: great for the show. Well, so the problem is we 1070 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: trust them too much. We do trust them, but they 1071 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: are they do become our best friends, and in my case, 1072 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: they've continued to be my best friends off camera. As well. 1073 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't want to like say, oh, 1074 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: why would you get a productions because they have the 1075 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: bad intentions of mine. Um, I am very trusting, but 1076 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: I've found in my own personal experiences that well, you 1077 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: may have a bad episode or a bad seen or two, 1078 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: because they do truly want to get you the best 1079 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: in the long run with every decision that you make 1080 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: with them. Yeah maybe, I mean, I know, like talking 1081 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: to him just even last night, like I was texting 1082 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: with them before I went on and after I got off, 1083 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, trust me, we got this handle, like 1084 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: we're working on it. We wanted to be the best. 1085 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: We want everybody to be happy. And I think in 1086 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: some ways, you know, I think I thought that I 1087 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: wish already didn't propose, but really, yeah tell us, tell us, well, 1088 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: I think at some point, like he's already done enough 1089 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: and like you could do that like away, right, Like 1090 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: that was just my opinion. Everybody else could think whatever 1091 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: they want. I mean I would have just sad like 1092 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: after with Molly and I like, you know, we wanted 1093 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 1: to take We took it almost a year before we 1094 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: got engaged, which is you know, which is not a 1095 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: long time and for some people, but for us it 1096 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: felt like it did Neil Lane still give you a ring? No? 1097 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: Well no, not so no when I proposed, but five 1098 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: year or five year anniversary? He helped us out. Yeah, 1099 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: this is I had an interesting tidbit here. Um, yesterday 1100 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: they taped Jimmy Kimmel before they taped after the final rose, 1101 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: and Lauren was wearing her engagement ring, so it was 1102 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 1: she he basically had already told her what you are 1103 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: you sure? Because he was leaving, Um was a fake engagement. 1104 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 1: He was going straight to Jimmy Kimmel after we filmed. 1105 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh really, are you sure? It would be hard for 1106 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: an actress too? I thought they. I don't know. Maybe 1107 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: you're right, jeez, he I mean, he had to out 1108 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: of their last night pretty quick be going to Jimmy Kimmel. Okay, okay, 1109 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 1: maybe I'm totally wrong. I don't want to like start 1110 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: something the elephant in the room. And I'm sure Jason 1111 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: you've thought about this a thousand, million, bi jillion times, 1112 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: But why didn't you just propose to Molly on the finale? Well? 1113 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean that so I was not going to pick Molly, 1114 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: I know, but why because you picked her, but you did, 1115 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: but really and you're like, inner, sorry you did, are you? 1116 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: And I talked about this so that the similarities between 1117 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: Lauren and Molly are that when when we filmed, when 1118 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: I filmed with Molly and already, kind of the same 1119 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: thing with Lauren is they were really there. Weren't people 1120 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: that were super comfortable, comfortable on camera that couldn't open 1121 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: up just and it's it's some of it's on camera stuff, 1122 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: but it's also just a personality. You know. You can't 1123 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: expect everybody to be super comfortable on camera. They can't 1124 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: expect everybody to be gushing about how much they care 1125 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: about somebody. Because I remember on one of my days 1126 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: of Molly, you know, nine years ago now, I remember 1127 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: it was the one thing we walked away, we were 1128 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: on our exotic stuff and I was like, I don't 1129 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: even know if she likes me, and the producers would 1130 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you know, don't worry, you know she 1131 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,439 Speaker 1: really does, and and they would go to Molly and say, hey, Molly, 1132 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: you've got to open up more, because she was not 1133 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: sure of it, um that you like him even and 1134 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: the truth was she was just having she just one 1135 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: she wasn't sure she wanted to get engaged with two. 1136 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: She was the type of person that had trouble opening up. 1137 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: And I think Lauren's the same way. I mean, I 1138 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: was writing this down, you know, on the plane, and like, 1139 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, Melissa was the type of person on my 1140 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: season that I always thought I would marry, and then 1141 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: after two months of you know, dating her, it just 1142 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the right fit for either of us. That's what 1143 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to know more about. Maybe, like because because 1144 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: your experience could be a reflection of ours, when did 1145 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: you start feeling like, oh, wow, this is probably not 1146 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: my wife once you exited the Bachelor bubble? Um? I 1147 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: mean because we I couldn't tell you. I mean, it's 1148 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: going to go back. It's nine years ago, more than 1149 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: nine years ago. So he dated I think, you know, 1150 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: six seven, eight weeks afterwards, and we would do those 1151 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know, getaways, and I think, you know, 1152 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: I think part of it is that, like I like, 1153 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: I just after that whole experience, I didn't love her, 1154 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: and um after you know, and I also take a 1155 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: step back as well as I think when you look 1156 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,439 Speaker 1: at that experience, you're probably you've probably spent a total 1157 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: of forty hours, but the person you end up proposing too, 1158 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: So that's really you know, in the real world, that's like, 1159 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: I really want to get to know you better. That's 1160 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: pretty incredible with already hours. How many married couples there 1161 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: actually are? Yeah, well, I mean that's it works for stuff, 1162 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: like in the real world, Like it works for some people, 1163 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, I love it first night, and for some 1164 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: people it doesn't. I do think it's still very fascinating. 1165 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: There hasn't been one divorce that is super like what 1166 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: there aren't How many marriages are there? I can write 1167 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: it down, but I think it's seven seven marriages. Yeah, 1168 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I like to count Sean Sean and Caitlin is married too. 1169 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I think there's like seven. Yeah, I mean it's interesting 1170 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: any time. Yeah, people do get married a long time. 1171 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean for a long time it was just tripped 1172 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: to and then we were in our own way. Second, 1173 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and that was after there was sent you one after 1174 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: up until my season, which was one out of you 1175 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: know whatever, fifteen or sixteen. There's two things that are 1176 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: really interesting about you, Jason. One is that essentially it 1177 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: did work because you did meet your wife on this 1178 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: crazy Bananas show. Is it annoying when people say that 1179 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: Sean is the only quote successful bachelor. No, I don't 1180 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: care if it. No, I mean right he did, because 1181 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's just in the bubble. In the bubble, 1182 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it messed with your brain. Oh yeah, 1183 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the whole thing is like I 1184 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I've said this like a billion times 1185 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: that like I never at the end of my season, 1186 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: I didn't pick Molly, but I didn't want to propose 1187 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: to either of them, and why did you exactly? So, 1188 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean I was writing this down, and like I've 1189 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: said this a million times. I I had called her parents, 1190 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: who never Melissa's parents, who never wanted to be on 1191 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the show, and I called him up. This is maybe 1192 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a day or two before proposal, and 1193 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: I just said, hey, like I've never got to meet 1194 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: you guys. You know, I'm a single dad, and I 1195 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: just like, I'm going to pick your her, but I 1196 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: don't want to. I can't propoch to her. And we 1197 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: were all on the same page and they're like, okay, 1198 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I get it. I respected, and we left it at that. 1199 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: So I go back to my room and literally a 1200 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: few hours later, one of the UH producers comes into 1201 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the UH to my room and says, hey, like, listen, 1202 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of stress. I called Melissa's parents 1203 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: back and we told them that your ons are distress. 1204 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Like you want to propose And I was like, what, like, 1205 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: but you can't do that? But then slowly over um over, 1206 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if it's a day or 1207 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: two days. You know, everybody comes through and says, don't 1208 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you don't you want to give her this moment? She's 1209 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: the most amazing girl you ever met. You you will marry. 1210 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Like there's there's a hundred different ways that a hundred 1211 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: different people who work on the show come through. And 1212 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: at the end of it, you know, dumb guys like, oh, 1213 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 1: I must be an idiot, all right, America is going 1214 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: to hate you if you don't. Yeah, it's it's there's 1215 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of different things, and our owners just like 1216 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: people like people, producers owners, the owner of the show 1217 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: basically says, that's not the way this works, right. Isn't 1218 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: that funny that people would rather see a purpose and 1219 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: get engaged and then the couple breakup than just them saying, hey, 1220 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: let's date. In real life, and then eventually end up 1221 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: together yes to no. I mean, I like the breakup 1222 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 1: is a news story, the proposals, the TV action, the 1223 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: millions of people are watching, so they just want to 1224 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: They want to capture the audience of people who are 1225 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: like I get it, like I've I've been through it 1226 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: enough times. So for me, I like, that was the 1227 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing in my gut. I knew I should never 1228 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: propose to either of them, and I did, and that's 1229 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: what got me. I think he was trying to say 1230 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: that same thing. It was like, I shouldn't have proposed 1231 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: to you. I don't know if he's saying he should 1232 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: propose to Lauren, but like, realistically, some people aren't cut 1233 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: out to propose to somebody after two months, and I was, 1234 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and I was one of them. This is so informative. 1235 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I think people are going to be really happy with 1236 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: all this knowledge from you. I wonder how many other 1237 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: bachelors have felt forced into proposing when they didn't feel 1238 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: like right. And I'd rather I'd rather watch Ari season 1239 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and Jason season because as a viewer, if I'm putting 1240 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: real human feelings aside, Jason's after the Final Rose was 1241 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: one of the best things I've ever seen. I mean, 1242 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: I've rewatched it on YouTube. The only thing that is 1243 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: better is Vienna and Jake Pavelta's breakup. Talk about this 1244 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: all the time as the juiciest moment in a bad 1245 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: mood or feeling bad about yourself, simply YouTube that and 1246 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: you will is so good. But yours was pretty juicy 1247 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: because Molly's sort of shock is one of the greatest 1248 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: things I've ever seen. Like she just did not know 1249 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: what to do with the information you were giving. What 1250 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: made you say I want to give Molly another chance 1251 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: because you seem like a little bit unsure of her 1252 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: during in the Bachelor bubble, So what was like, I'm 1253 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: going to go back and try that girl again. So okay, 1254 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: So that's Molista, Like I could never say in my 1255 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: entire life anything bad about it. She was sweet, she 1256 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: was carrying, she was beautiful, she was good with my son. 1257 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, was just for a day where you met him. 1258 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: So there's all these good things. But then when we 1259 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: got off camera, there was not the just the chemistry 1260 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: that you want in a marriage, right So with so 1261 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: with Molly, there was just curiosity, and I knew that 1262 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: there was nobody else in the show that I was 1263 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: interested in dating, but Molly was the only one. So 1264 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: when I talked to the producers, they said, okay, yes, 1265 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: but she's going to be the bat Florette unless you 1266 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: do something now. So the only I mean the really realistically, 1267 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the only reason that all that happened was she would 1268 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: have started filming a week later, and it would have 1269 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: been I would not have ever had that opportunity would 1270 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: started filming the bats Florette. So the reason why I 1271 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: was so condensed like that, I was like, Okay, if 1272 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, I've got to do it when 1273 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: they say the cameras are ready. Otherwise, you know, they 1274 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of hold your I don't know how real it is, 1275 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: your contract over your head, which is a massive you know, 1276 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 1: I know you worked with Brian Seacraft, like I don't 1277 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: have that kind of money. You know, I live in 1278 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: a in a in a rig like I was living 1279 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: in a tiny little rambler trying to make me to 1280 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: pay the mortgage for my son. And no, I get it. 1281 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: These are big life things that you kind of have 1282 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: to factor in, even though the audience doesn't know. It's 1283 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: just until you being on the bat, being a cast member. 1284 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: One of the is easy. I mean you go like 1285 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 1: either a become friends with a lot of girls with 1286 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: guys and you go on date sometimes you hang out 1287 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: with people, you drink, you get free meals, get to 1288 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: travel a little bit. It's like there's no worries when 1289 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: you become the bats or bats are at They ask 1290 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: you as it goes along to be part of the production, 1291 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: and that means being nice to people on dates, being 1292 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: asking yourself and getting forced into doing things that you 1293 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: don't want to do because it's the TV show. Is 1294 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: it possible to stand up to every producer and say no, 1295 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, that's the wrong thing 1296 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: to do. It possible to do that retrospectively, but when 1297 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: you're there, you don't know that you know, Like for example, 1298 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: I know Molly, Molly tells the story all the time. 1299 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: Like one of the days she went on with me, 1300 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: they wanted her to um so it was the talent competition. 1301 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: They said, you need to tell Jason your secret talent 1302 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: is kidding and she's like, that is the dumbest thing 1303 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,560 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. I'm not secret because it's not it's 1304 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: not true. That's stupid, right, And they said that's fine. 1305 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: If you don't do that, then he's not going to 1306 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: pick you and we're gonna send you. He's gonna send 1307 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,439 Speaker 1: you off. Is that true? Who knows, But when you're 1308 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: on the show, you believe that story. That's pretty charge. 1309 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: I've never heard anything said like that before. What's that 1310 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I've never heard somebody's ever say that. They just do 1311 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of mind melting a little mind maybe 1312 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: not so like verbal. I've got a gazillion story, and 1313 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't like in some sense, I get it, like 1314 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: they're making a TV show, right right, Like everybody was 1315 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: so upset that the cameras were there for the breakup, 1316 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 1: But if you remove feelings and your production, of course 1317 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have cameras. They're like, that was the greatest 1318 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. So nobody is going to say no, no, 1319 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: we shouldn't bring cameras, Like, of course we should bring cameras. 1320 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 1: And a million, million, million, million, million, million million people 1321 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 1: watched it, and if you didn't, if they didn't do it, 1322 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 1: would they would be like, well, what happened? How come? 1323 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Like what like are you serious? Like now together, Lauren? Whatever? 1324 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,799 Speaker 1: What happened? Right? You're fired? If you have the camera already. 1325 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: Did say that he did it because he knew he 1326 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: was going to have to answer those questions eventually, and 1327 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 1: his might as well just have it on the record 1328 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: for everyone. I agree in some respect, but I think 1329 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: Ari is also deep under contract with them, right, I'm yeah, 1330 01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: like I'm like a contract clearly. Yeah, if they didn't 1331 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: even have right, they didn't have paperback, then yeah, clearly. 1332 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is making me very nervous. It's fine 1333 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: because they still like you, so you're fine. Well, I mean, 1334 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff has been said before. I think people 1335 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: might listen now more just because um, people are asking 1336 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: me questions again. But I'm not like, I'm not saying 1337 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: anything that I've never said before. I do think what's 1338 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 1: interesting that you're saying that I'd love to know if 1339 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: you asked Ari, because people always say it is easy 1340 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 1: being one of the and really a lot of work 1341 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: to be the lead, as they call it, no idea. 1342 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I think Ari went into it thinking this is the 1343 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: greatest thing that ever happened to me, and if you 1344 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: asked him now is probably like, not the greatest thing 1345 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: that ever happened. I remember you, for I did the Bachelor. 1346 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to a couple of guys that 1347 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: had done it. And I talked to a couple of 1348 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 1: guys and they both did the same thing. They said, 1349 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: we're going to tell you not to do it, but 1350 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: you're going to do it every anyway, Who did you? Ask? 1351 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: And I talked to Brad Womack, who did it again? 1352 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: After you? After telling you that, Yeah, he goes and 1353 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: does it again. And who was the other one? And 1354 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 1: who's the other guy right before me? The British there's 1355 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,800 Speaker 1: a British guy. Oh, like one of those that nobody watched. Yeah, 1356 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean grand remember that. I don't. I don't know this, Okay, Yeah, 1357 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: that's it was. And I said the same thing like 1358 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 1: Jake Volco called me and I said, listen, I tell 1359 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 1: you not to do it. I remember talking to Jillian 1360 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: and Ali, like I talked to all the people before 1361 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: they do it, and I said, I said the same thing. 1362 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 1: It's so hard. I said the same thing to Becca 1363 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 1: last night. I'm like, it's so hard and you'll get it, 1364 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: like all you'll get it in three months? How hard 1365 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,600 Speaker 1: it really is? Right? Oh my gosh, I don't know. 1366 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could ever say, of course I'd 1367 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: want to be the bachelor if they were to ask 1368 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: me and now a single But if you were to 1369 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: be like, but if you really were to lay it 1370 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: out like this, Hey, would you like to go on 1371 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: a date with somebody for every day for the next 1372 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,639 Speaker 1: two months, I'd be like, oh my god, that sounds 1373 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: like hell. I wouldn't do it. If you offered me 1374 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: a hundred million way, I would literally have to be 1375 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: hospitalized in in some form of special place because I 1376 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: could not mentally handle it. Think about like, not only 1377 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: are you going on dates every single day for two months, 1378 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: but also when you're not on a date or in 1379 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: between dates, you're talking about your feelings and you're constantly talking, talking, talking, 1380 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 1: Please give me a couch and some take out so 1381 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: that I can just vege out at we take your 1382 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: phone away come out. That's still I still love that 1383 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,759 Speaker 1: very It was very different when I did it, because 1384 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think iPhones could just come out. It 1385 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: was like, can I take your BlackBerry please? Yeah? That 1386 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: like it just crawls when you try to get on 1387 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the internet. Yeah, yeah, exactly. M I have one more 1388 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: question before we actually have to One is an unanswered question. 1389 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Since from before you said that Melissa already had a 1390 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,560 Speaker 1: guy and that's why she wasn't going to be the bachelorette. 1391 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 1: So she had a guy from before the show years, 1392 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,560 Speaker 1: she met him, she knew him, she knew him beforehand, 1393 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 1: they ate him beforehand. Okay, a lot of the girls 1394 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: I find to the guy from before. Yeah, I know that. 1395 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 1: And then they married. Yeah I didn't know. It's fine, 1396 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Like I didn't know any of that, but it was 1397 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: the right obviously, the right thing for her to do. 1398 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: And then the second question is, Um, did already ever 1399 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: reach out to you, like personally because the situations are 1400 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: so similar, or was it like productions would have, like 1401 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I I had found out about it. I don't know. 1402 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: It was sometime in January, um, and I remember reaching 1403 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: out to him and like not hearing back for a 1404 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: little while and finally try to be like I'll get 1405 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 1: a hold, and you never did. You know. What's funny 1406 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: is that I think part of that is because the 1407 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: production is thing, if Jason reaches out to you, don't 1408 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: talk right because we're gonna have a conversation with them 1409 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 1: later on camera. Okay, Okay, So what I was gonna say. 1410 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 1: It was interesting because back back in your day, you 1411 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 1: couldn't slide into her d M S and do it privately. 1412 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: You would have to find her number, and production would 1413 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: never give you her number. Yeah. Really, you're the crap 1414 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: out of you. Yeah, there's no way to secretly. Yeah 1415 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: there was. I mean I've joked around about this, Like 1416 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 1: back then Twitter it just started. It was using Twitter, 1417 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: and my Space was bigger than Facebook, Like right, what 1418 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 1: happened to you know? Facebook was just this kind of 1419 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: new thing. You know, it's been around a couple of years, 1420 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: but my Space was king back then. That's really funny. 1421 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Jason, this is so informative, very interesting. Yes, 1422 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna love this well. And you're like, you know, 1423 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, hey, give Aria a break. 1424 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: You know. I think people are starting to sort of 1425 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 1: like give this a break. I mean, you guys, I 1426 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 1: would like, over and over again, he shouldn't have feel 1427 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: like he should have figured out a way to not film, 1428 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: and I would have told him that, but he would 1429 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: have listened to producers anyway, the audio would it would 1430 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: have been confused. And I would say, for somebody, if 1431 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: he's that confused, he's a. He's an emotional guy. Maybe 1432 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: he didn't show his emotions like that as much as 1433 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 1: people would have liked. But it takes a lot of 1434 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: balls to go and know that you're gonna get crushed 1435 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 1: like he is and still go through with it. He's 1436 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: handled it pretty well, and I've been texted him today. 1437 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: He seems good. Yeah. When I asked him about three 1438 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: weeks ago at woman til all ago, are you dreading 1439 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,600 Speaker 1: after the final rows? Are you looking forward to it? 1440 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 1: He was like, I'm honestly looking forward to it so 1441 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I can just breathe fresh air after afterward. All right, Jason, 1442 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: I love you. You're great. Thank you so much. You're welcome. 1443 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,600 Speaker 1: Someone pulls a mesnic again, Yeah, tell him to go 1444 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 1: to UH. If they need to buy a house in Seattle, 1445 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: call me. Oh, we will tell him right now. Oh yeah, Hey, 1446 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 1: anybody looking to buy a house, tell a house in Seattle. 1447 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm your guy. I worked my butt off, even pressure 1448 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:07,799 Speaker 1: wash myself. I have houses where Molly Molly is taking pictures. 1449 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: I took them by and I'm pressure washed driveway. I 1450 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: built a headboard for somebody's uh bed before staking their house. 1451 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god, who servant Jason Mesnick. Yeah, Jason Mesnick, 1452 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,839 Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick Group dot Com. All right, well, thanks Jason, 1453 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Bye. Al right, guys, Well 1454 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: after this Bachelor for Neale week, I need some sleep 1455 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: like I've never had sleep before. I'm going to hibernate 1456 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: for the next three days, and um, I'm going to 1457 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: do it on a sleep number. I love my sleep 1458 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: number bed. My sleep number setting is seventy, and I 1459 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: love it because I can adjust it for those days 1460 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 1: that I feel like just sinking into bed, or the 1461 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: days that my back needs a little bit of support. 1462 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: It adjusts each side of the bed, or you can 1463 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 1: adjust it the entire bed whenever you want. It's so 1464 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: comfortable you can actually you feel how it contours your neck, shoulders, 1465 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: back and hips for a more proper spinal alignment. And 1466 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the new sleep number beds they're smart. They sense your 1467 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: every move. I love that. That's my favorite part. And 1468 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: it automatically adjusts to keep you sleeping comfortably. There's even 1469 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: an adjustment for snoring. Does your bed do that? Sleep number? 1470 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Queen Mattresses started only nine hundred and nine and nine cents. 1471 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 1: Right now during the spring clearance event, you can save 1472 01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,759 Speaker 1: up to six hundred dollars on their most popular beds. 1473 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 1: There are more than five and fifties sleep Number stores 1474 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: in America. Visits sleep number dot com to find the 1475 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 1: stores near you. And if you mentioned the Almost Namous podcast, 1476 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,839 Speaker 1: you can get up to six hundred dollars and savings. 1477 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: They really is the most comfortable bed. Sleep all day 1478 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: and right now. I do do most of your work 1479 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: from your sep number work, so I take conference calls 1480 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 1: on my laptop. I do emails all day long. People 1481 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 1: think I'm working in an office and I'm working in 1482 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,759 Speaker 1: my sleep and see I'm a couch I'm a couch worker. 1483 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: But if I you know, but I shouldn't move over 1484 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,559 Speaker 1: to the bedroom. So here's a little thing I will say. 1485 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: When I used to work at a desk, I got 1486 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 1: horrible back aches, and now that I work from my 1487 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: sleep Number bed, I don't get them anymore because it's 1488 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: like it's comfortable and sit up and you're on your 1489 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,719 Speaker 1: laptop and I don't have the same back aches headaches 1490 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 1: that I used to get. That so it's worth it. Okay, 1491 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: all right, Well you guys you heard from Ami. You know, 1492 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 1: all right, I want to talk talk about some emails, UM, 1493 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 1: do a couple of ones that are off topic of 1494 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,760 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, because, UM, I need a break. I'm gonna 1495 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: be honest, I need a break. I'm losing it. If 1496 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 1: you guys haven't haven't been able to tell I don't 1497 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: feel like I've been at my finest game today that 1498 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: I think. It's just like a little bit of overkiller 1499 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,600 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, we had a lot of Bachelor, a 1500 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: lot of Winter Games. Now we're going to have some 1501 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 1: fun until I know that's what we get to talk about, 1502 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 1: like relationships, and that makes me happy. This I love 1503 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 1: keep everybody informed on what all the Bachelor people are doing. Yeah, okay, 1504 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: so I love this email. UM. The topic is how 1505 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 1: do you know they're the one? This is from Kelly, Hi, Ashley, 1506 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: and Ben. I am reeling from the finale and I 1507 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: can't wait for after the final Rose. It's a couple 1508 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,679 Speaker 1: of days old. I wanted to comment on the question 1509 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: of how do you know when you're with the right person. 1510 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: I am someone who has been in a successful relationship 1511 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 1: for the past three years of my life, and I 1512 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 1: am constantly mulling over this question. Long story short, you 1513 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: know when you're with the right person if they bring 1514 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: out the parts of you that you want to emphasize 1515 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 1: in yourself. I genuine believe that a human can love 1516 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,759 Speaker 1: more than one person. We open our hearts to endless friends, 1517 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: and I believe it is possible to open your heart 1518 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,639 Speaker 1: to loving more than one person. Different soulmates bring out 1519 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: different parts of yourself, and to choose to be with 1520 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 1: a person is to choose to be with the part 1521 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 1: of yourself that you like to be with the very most, 1522 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,560 Speaker 1: whether that is your fund self, your spiritual self, or 1523 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: a part of your personality you cannot compensate for, and 1524 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: other friendships and relationships such as sexual and romantic selves. 1525 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 1: So I don't think the question is if you're choosing 1526 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: the person that you love the most, but are you 1527 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: choosing the person who makes you love yourself the most? Wow? 1528 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: That is a good point. I love that, hoping you 1529 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,639 Speaker 1: guys are interested in my theory. I love the almost podcasts. 1530 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: I know Ashley, you with Kevin make me cry like 1531 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: it was a bachelor proposal. Wishing you the best. That's 1532 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 1: so sweet. Thank you, Kelly. Yeah, she makes really good points. 1533 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: What do you think, um, I think that's actually incredible. 1534 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: That makes me wonder if she believes in monogamy though, 1535 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean she's obviously in a relationship. But okay, so yes, 1536 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: you choose to be with the person who brings out 1537 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: that quality that you like the very most, like it's 1538 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 1: your most important I suppose the thing I've been learning 1539 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: lately is that, Look, it's still hard work, and you 1540 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: still have to sort of work on yourself. But I 1541 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: think when you're really in love, you want to I 1542 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 1: want to be a better person for my person. Does 1543 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 1: that make sense? Totally makes anything? Again? Like I said 1544 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: with the sacrifices the other day, it's not work. It's 1545 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 1: something I want to do because it makes me happy 1546 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 1: and them happy. I don't know. I think the greatest 1547 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,639 Speaker 1: thing I've ever been told is you make me happy. 1548 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: I could just die happy from that. It was like, 1549 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: that is just life changing. Um, I personally like it 1550 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: when my fun self and my funny self comes out 1551 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 1: and like my flirty, bantery self. So if I'm with 1552 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 1: somebody who I'm not laughing with a lot, which this 1553 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: is kind of like a new it's kind of like 1554 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: something new. Like if you had asked me a couple 1555 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 1: of years ago, I wouldn't say, like a guy who 1556 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: makes me laugh, which is so weird because I think 1557 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 1: all girls say that. But I was like, oh no, 1558 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: it's not gonna say it's like a decent sense of 1559 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: human but like, no, I need to have like that flirty, 1560 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 1: witty banter. Yeah, it makes me feel more like alive 1561 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and it makes me feel really connected. I think that 1562 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 1: is a great You want something that makes you feel alive, 1563 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 1: even if it's sometimes you're crying, or sometimes you're happy, 1564 01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 1: or sometimes you're passionate, whatever you feel. Feelings. Yeah, well, 1565 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Kelly, I don't think you really have a question. 1566 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 1: I think we love your theory and it's something that 1567 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep in on the back of my 1568 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: mind always. Thank you m hm. Thinking of another man 1569 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: from anonymous Bett and Ashley, I believe when you know 1570 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: you found the one, you definitely just know. You feel 1571 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 1: in your soul, you crave to be around them and 1572 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 1: you can't get your mind off of them. With that 1573 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 1: being said, I'm in a very serious relationship. We've been 1574 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 1: together for five years and I love him to death, 1575 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,959 Speaker 1: but recently there's someone else that has stopped my world completely. 1576 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Get this achy, lovely feeling that I haven't before. Literally 1577 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 1: I can't get him off my mind, and I just 1578 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 1: have this feeling that there's something more, or there could 1579 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 1: be something more if I wasn't a relationship with someone else. 1580 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm not going to end my relationship for him, and 1581 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: I would never cheat on my significant other. But I 1582 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 1: still can't help but think about this guy all the time. 1583 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: I think about all the things that could happen between 1584 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: us if my relationship ever ended, and just being ridiculous 1585 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: or doing the whole grass is greener on the other 1586 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 1: side thing. Or could I actually have strong, real feelings 1587 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 1: for two people? Thinks? Okay, well, going off of what 1588 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Kelly said before, I think you can definitely have strong 1589 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 1: feelings for both people. And if Ben were here, he 1590 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: would obviously say the same thing. He was in love 1591 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 1: with two girls, maybe in different ways, but you know, 1592 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 1: similar enough when he was a bachelor. What do what 1593 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 1: do you do? I know this. I saw this email 1594 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 1: and was like, I don't know how to I mean, 1595 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is. This is horrible, 1596 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna be But I'm gonna tell you 1597 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 1: what I would probably do. I think you'd have to 1598 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: experiment a little bit with this guy. Not physically and 1599 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 1: not deeply emotionally, but I think you need to hang 1600 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 1: out with him enough to really know whether this is 1601 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: something that your mind is just making up or if 1602 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 1: this is something that could really be there. It's just yeah, 1603 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 1: you have to invest a little time. Agree with Ashley, 1604 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: although I feel like we might get a lot of 1605 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I think we might get a lot of hate. Two. 1606 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 1: But then, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna 1607 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: end your relationship for a guy that you just like 1608 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: got a little buzz crossover, which I would assume if 1609 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,799 Speaker 1: you're with somebody for five years and you're not married, 1610 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: that if you if somebody else piques your interest, I 1611 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,639 Speaker 1: think you could probably develop a crush while still really 1612 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,679 Speaker 1: wanting to be with the person that you're in the relationship. 1613 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,680 Speaker 1: This is a big this is a complicated one and 1614 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: I almost feel like we should put you on the 1615 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:21,599 Speaker 1: mike since you're the married guy in this house. Okay, Easton, 1616 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 1: you're married. You've been with your wife for how long? 1617 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,639 Speaker 1: I've been with her for five years? Five years? Perfect 1618 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,440 Speaker 1: have you ever developed any sort of interest or curiosity 1619 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:38,640 Speaker 1: in somebody else? Okay, So, then going back to anonymous, 1620 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I also I've never been in a relationship as serious 1621 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 1: as five years. But I do tend to like to 1622 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 1: think that if I was with the person that I 1623 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 1: want to spend the rest of my life with and 1624 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,560 Speaker 1: my soul mate, that I wouldn't develop that crush. That 1625 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 1: is a concern. Yeah, because I think that too. This 1626 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 1: whole email is very concerning. I feel like we might 1627 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,280 Speaker 1: want to address it when we're when we do our 1628 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 1: next show like a therapist. Yeah, Anonymous, Um, I'd love 1629 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 1: to know if you would like to come on and 1630 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: describe the situation. Save this email because I want to 1631 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 1: go back to it next time. I think this is 1632 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: a question that a lot of people have and encounter 1633 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: in their life, and I think, yeah, we should dive 1634 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper, especially when we have because I 1635 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,560 Speaker 1: hate to say this, Oh God, I hate to say this, 1636 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: So Anonymous, don't listen to this everybody else because there 1637 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 1: might be a reason that, how do I say this, 1638 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,719 Speaker 1: she may not be in the perfect relationship if she's 1639 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: having these someone else. Like in an ideal world, I 1640 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,719 Speaker 1: would like to think that when I'm with the person 1641 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be with, I would never crush on 1642 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 1: anyone else. Okay, but I don't really know yet because 1643 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I think someone's cute or like they give you like 1644 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 1: a little flutter, but but not to this. This is 1645 01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: really more Yeah, all right, one last email and I 1646 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,639 Speaker 1: love the headline of this. Do women do their own makeup? 1647 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 1: This is from Annie in California. She goes, how do 1648 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 1: all the women look so flawless on the show? Do 1649 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 1: they do their own makeup? And how do all the 1650 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 1: women know how to do their makeup so well? What 1651 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,759 Speaker 1: brands are they using? All right? So yeah, um, everybody 1652 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 1: asked this question. I think we've addressed it before. About clothing, 1653 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,880 Speaker 1: at least your clothes are all on you that first season. 1654 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,640 Speaker 1: Once you do Paradise, there's lots of clothing brands that 1655 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: want to send you clothing. So in my past I've 1656 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 1: had purchase clothes in Paradise and um given clothes. But makeup, Yeah, 1657 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: makeup is all on us. I I did it. I 1658 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,640 Speaker 1: love doing my own makeup for camera. I feel like 1659 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 1: I know my face best and it just seems like 1660 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: the other girls in the house really know how to 1661 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: do it too. I don't know what to tell you, um, 1662 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: but we do it, and UM my favorite brands if 1663 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 1: you want to if you want my favorite brands I 1664 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: like I like Mabelin, I like Becca, I like Tar 1665 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 1: and I love cat Bondie for things like powdery substances 1666 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 1: like eyeshadows and um, you know um powder foundation because 1667 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,639 Speaker 1: it has really really good strong pegment. Can I say 1668 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: something crazy because I don't wear very much makeup? But 1669 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: do you want to know what has been life changing? Goop? Goop? 1670 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,480 Speaker 1: I know maybe loves a group which is Gwyneth Paltrow's 1671 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: beauty and Gwyneth because she will give like a little 1672 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,560 Speaker 1: things on her Instagram and I thought too, and like 1673 01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 1: game change. What is what products? Illuminators? Is that the 1674 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 1: right thing? Like highlighters? Yeah, like a little and then 1675 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 1: this little creamy blush thing. I mean, Gwyneth is my girl, 1676 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: kidding she is. I could see using organic foundation, no makeup. 1677 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't wear foundation. I only wear that little illuminator 1678 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: or whatever it's called blush and lip gloss. Okay, well 1679 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,080 Speaker 1: that you know what that's really the basics. That is 1680 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,879 Speaker 1: what every new girl nick needs to feel her prettiest. 1681 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: And you know, beyond that is when guys starts saying 1682 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 1: like it's too much. Guys, like you know, this is 1683 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 1: what I hear guys like a little lip stuff, a 1684 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 1: little mascara and a little blush and highlight. I hear 1685 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 1: you want to look the same in the morning as 1686 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 1: you do at night. My only caveat about that is like, 1687 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 1: my I've got a whole bunch of post acne spotting, 1688 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 1: so in like a little bit of rosasha. So like 1689 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 1: I need to wear a foundation, but that sucks because 1690 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 1: foundation is always like the telltale makeup, Like you know 1691 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: a girl is wearing foundation. Which it's the one thing 1692 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: My goal in life is to be able to feel 1693 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: really pretty without foundation. That's it. That's a good This 1694 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,559 Speaker 1: is what I dream you do? One more? Do one more? Okay, 1695 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 1: we'll do this because it's fun. Alright, So back to 1696 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 1: the Bachelor talk. This is from Lovely on after the 1697 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 1: Final Rose, we saw the first five contestants of Becca 1698 01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 1: season eke, I wanted to know your earlier pinions and 1699 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,599 Speaker 1: guesses on who we think will go the furthest out 1700 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 1: of the five we saw tonight, and if you read 1701 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,559 Speaker 1: my question or answer, it thinks if not also thinks, 1702 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: here's to a better season, hopefully slash most likely Lovely. 1703 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Let's all remember Dean was one of those. I know 1704 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Dean was sitting with me watching that and I was like, Dean, 1705 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 1: you're such a husband. Now this is this was you 1706 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 1: last year. Um okay, So these are the guys that 1707 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 1: stuck to me. One That first guy so cute, they 1708 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 1: want with the accent, so charming. I just knew all 1709 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the right things to say. Loved him. Love the guy 1710 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 1: with the banjo so cute. Also, I thought the whole 1711 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,160 Speaker 1: horse move was pretty cute. I mean, start of a 1712 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: fairy tale. You're gonna get back up on the horse 1713 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 1: and that's how she's going to exit the stage. I 1714 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 1: mean pretty perfect. Um, there's that second guy up. He 1715 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 1: was a little too swab. I can see him being 1716 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: like a Robbie character. Yeah, it's all blurred to me. 1717 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be on no way. I don't know. 1718 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 1: But that banjo guy was so freaking cute. I was 1719 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: stoked over him. I was like kind of like, oh man, 1720 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 1: I want to see more of this guy. I think 1721 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 1: he's going to go really far. I think the first time, 1722 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 1: remember when do we see the Bachelorette went May? So, guys, 1723 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 1: we have um over two months, but you know what 1724 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 1: they're going to breeze by. It's going to be alarmingly fast. Yeah, 1725 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 1: and then we go Bachelor right into Paradise. Yeah. It's 1726 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 1: a whole string of string of all the good stuff. Okay, guys, um, 1727 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 1: if you are looking to be on the next season 1728 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor, first send your audition tapes in now. 1729 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: They cast way ahead of time to make it an awesome, 1730 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: awesome audition tape. I'm thinking about ripping out my old 1731 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,080 Speaker 1: audition tape and actually posting its Instagram. It's so embarrassing. 1732 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing that I actually haven't posted mine in 1733 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: the past. Like, I'm not embarrassed by anything that I do. 1734 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I just like embrace the awkwardness. This is like the 1735 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: one thing where I'm like, that's a little bit over 1736 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,880 Speaker 1: the edge. I know, so I think I'm going to 1737 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, So this is my advice to you guys, like, 1738 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 1: if you really want to be on the next season, 1739 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 1: amazing audition tape and head over to thread up if 1740 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: you get casted, so that you can get some bargains 1741 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 1: for all the different dates you're going to need outfits 1742 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: for the thread Up is the world's largest online thrift store, 1743 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 1: with over thirty five thousand brands at up to off 1744 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 1: retail price. 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Well, and it's also good 1763 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,559 Speaker 1: because if you want to take a chance on something, 1764 01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about the money because you 1765 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,639 Speaker 1: can get it for like ten bucks. I know, Amy, 1766 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 1: all these huge awesome bell bottoms from like Citizens of 1767 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Humanity and stuff, they were under twenty dollars. So I 1768 01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,880 Speaker 1: just figure out if it doesn't really fit perfectly, I 1769 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,880 Speaker 1: could just bring it and get the waste tempt for that. 1770 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Or if you do have a fail, way better to 1771 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,920 Speaker 1: have an eight dollar fail than an eighty dollar fail. Yeah, 1772 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: and you know easy returns just in case you do 1773 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,839 Speaker 1: need to. And the denim jackets, the sweaters, the jackets, 1774 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,680 Speaker 1: the denim is just right. Okay, Well, thank you to 1775 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 1: Leap Number, threat Up, Blue apron Zola and bio Clarity 1776 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 1: for sponsoring this podcast making it happen each week. As 1777 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,200 Speaker 1: you can see, we love you guys so much. We 1778 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: get incredible feedback and our listenership has just been through 1779 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,120 Speaker 1: the roof lately, and we are so so thankful. We're 1780 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,639 Speaker 1: even giving you our and a half podcasts pretty much 1781 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: because we just we just love talking to you guys. 1782 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,720 Speaker 1: And that's all I got. Next week, moving on to 1783 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 1: more real life things between Ben and myself and um, 1784 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you then. Until then, email Ben and 1785 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: Ashley at iHeart media dot com. And I've been Ben, 1786 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:42,759 Speaker 1: and that's been Amy. Bye. You just said. I've follow 1787 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,799 Speaker 1: the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart 1788 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts