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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: your war Room for in center, news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in for School Dallas Cowboys Select and now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian Broadness. You have the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show once again, seventeen days away from the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: My usual Scottie Buddies, David Hellman, Dame Burglar, Kent Garrison

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Speaker 1: our war war, right, Yeah, they very updated theirs. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's as I said, seventeen days until we get going.

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Speaker 1: us through the three days that we had the actual

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Speaker 1: draft coverage here from the Star. The draft will take

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Speaker 1: place at at and T Stadium. We're very excited about that.

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Speaker 1: So everything kind of rolling along running out of days,

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Speaker 1: Like we said, want to get into because Dane's got that,

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Speaker 1: He's got a Dane's got a game for us today,

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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that we get to

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Speaker 1: that game and have plenty of time for it to

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more about about the players from

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Speaker 1: the Beast, from the Beasts perspective, if you haven't had

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Speaker 1: an opportunity, we'll talk about the Beast, and we'll also

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Speaker 1: talk about Star magazine. How you can get those two

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Speaker 1: things to make them part of your draft, coach. But

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to have some time some

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Speaker 1: of move some things around on you guys, slightly different,

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Speaker 1: slightly different. I want you to hit me with a

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Speaker 1: little tell me more today. I mean, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that I want to start to stop with from telling

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Speaker 1: me more. We'll hit our Twitter and then we'll have

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Speaker 1: a chance for Dane's a little bit of game at

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Speaker 1: the at the end of the show. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw it over to you right now, David Helmont, if

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Speaker 1: you can do that, I can do that. And I

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Speaker 1: listened to the people. I'm a man of the people.

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Speaker 1: Man of the people. We've gotten a lot of requests

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Speaker 1: about this guy. He has been linked to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We've definitely mentioned his name at some point during this

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Speaker 1: draft process. But just a little thumbnail, little deeper dive,

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Speaker 1: tell me more about Edo Smith, the Southern miss running

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Speaker 1: back whose name you have probably heard if you've been

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Speaker 1: following the Cowboys Senior Bowl guy. Yeah, a player we

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Speaker 1: didn't can see at the combine. It was one of

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Speaker 1: those snubs, sure talking about We're talking a lot about

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Speaker 1: these snubs. Really productive, these second all time in Southern

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Speaker 1: MISSI history and rushing yards. A little under sized, sure,

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Speaker 1: five nine two pounds, sure, underpowered, He's not that inside

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Speaker 1: runners going to consistently you know, breakthrough tackles. But I

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Speaker 1: like investing in space. Yeah, screen game, Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: he really shine. Catches the football absolutely, one hunifty catches

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Speaker 1: in his college career. It's a really good player out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield. If he can improve as a blocker,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's your lansdoone bar. I mean that's yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's your guy that can be in on third down.

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Speaker 1: And this team they've shown some interest in him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't you kind of get the vibe that that's the

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Speaker 1: running back that they want, that that guy that could Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know if you look at who they've also visited

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Speaker 1: with with Hines from North Carolina State. Hines is the

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Speaker 1: third round version. This is the late round. This is

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Speaker 1: the late round version. Absolutely, so yeah, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with Dane. I feel like, though, if you can find

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Speaker 1: a way a lot of these guys, with the way

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Speaker 1: football in college football is nowadays, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys run the football well, they learn to catch the football,

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Speaker 1: And because they've been doing things, it's very rare that

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Speaker 1: you see a guy now there's you know, we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, Walton and Kelly and those guys as possible

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Speaker 1: guys is in the mixes that shorter quicker. I personally

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Speaker 1: He's not as small, but I mean if if Hines

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Speaker 1: but he's also I think a little more where he's

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Speaker 1: shy Michelle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, North South Runner. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: liked about Edo two. Only the tenth player in FBS

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Speaker 1: history to rush for over four thousand yards in his

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Speaker 1: one of ten players to ever do it. I mean

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Speaker 1: that says something about his versatility as an offensive player.

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Speaker 1: is Williamson the is the the round earlier than Edo Smith? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think they're a little different because like Darrel Williams,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I won't shut up about Darryl Williams. Right,

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Speaker 1: But that's kind of my point is that they're not

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Speaker 1: Would you rather you know, pay a vetter and more

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Speaker 1: he can probably even he could probably be your backup.

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Speaker 1: I don't but I don't have a beef. I don't

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Speaker 1: If you talk about it Edo Smith, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: point right there. But we can argue that Ryan Switzer

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Speaker 1: of that. That's just me. Okay, that was That was

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Speaker 1: purely for the fans. Good conversation, Thank you. This is

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Speaker 1: purely for me because I'm a homer. Yeah, uh New

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Speaker 1: Not I mean, he tested better than I thought he would, yep,

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Speaker 1: play speed, the play athleticism. I didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: The thing that I think he's the athletic ability is

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Speaker 1: him the testing the part. One of my notes was

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Speaker 1: about the flow, the flow to the ball, the ability

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Speaker 1: see a guy that could get outside in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: I worried a little bit though about the you know,

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Speaker 1: in the coverage aspect of things, you know, and that's

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Speaker 1: where you see, Okay, flow to the ball, read go,

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Speaker 1: But I was kind of I did see a good athlete,

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Speaker 1: and take on blockers too a little bit. I thought

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Speaker 1: the coverage, I don't know if he how good he

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Speaker 1: flow and make tackles running into football or can you

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Speaker 1: play him every down? That that's the concern I had

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Speaker 1: about him. Where can I get him? What are else grades?

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Speaker 1: I gave him six seven, Yeah, I was in I

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Speaker 1: gave him a sixth round grade, is what I did.

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Speaker 1: The kind of the key is where you play him, right?

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Speaker 1: that There's a lot of guys in this draft that

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Speaker 1: like Josie Jewel when you when a guy makes every

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Speaker 1: Sure that to me. And I didn't mean. I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean to hijackers. No, no, no, but I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: But it goes back to the safeties. It goes back

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Speaker 1: that's why they're safeties. Yeah, you know, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: well with this guy, well, the I think the Southern

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Speaker 1: like more Again I talk about I talk about guys. Huh, Okay,

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Speaker 1: You might have to almost think around early. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dang, we're all gonna sit there on draft

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Speaker 1: Day that those three days and go well, again, I

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Speaker 1: say little early. It was little early for me. Little early,

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Speaker 1: but they're thinking if we wait till, if we wait

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Speaker 1: a free safety where we know those those are endangered

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Speaker 1: similar where if you don't have one, you better tackles,

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Speaker 1: we're not we're not gonna be surprised by the picks,

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Speaker 1: I have him in the third round and all of

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Speaker 1: a suddy, he's taking the second round. Oh, I've got

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Speaker 1: Don't be surprised by that, because teams will say, listen,

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Speaker 1: get him. That's gonna be the bottom line there. Let's

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Speaker 1: hit the trifecta for Southern Miss. Shout out all my

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Speaker 1: Hattiesburg people. Tell me more about Southern Miss wide receiver

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Speaker 1: He will make some circus catches on it. He's physical

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Speaker 1: You know, there's some toughness about those Southern miss kids.

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Speaker 1: we don't have anything, and this is way way back

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Speaker 1: four or five nine guy. Here's what I mean he is.

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Speaker 1: which is sure afthletic ability six zero zero five to twelve. Yeah, not,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not bad. I'm not posting his nicknames

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Speaker 1: That's all I got though, Oh yeah, today, that's all

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Speaker 1: I got today? Really? Yeah? All right man, I mean

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Speaker 1: interesting from Southern Miss. How many guys? Oh, sure, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect that, Ober. No, but no, but about

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Speaker 1: you know Smith, you do about some of these guys.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in October I wasn't. I didn't expect

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Speaker 1: No I got one yet because I know this name,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Jerome Baker out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: In the name, he's gonna go a lot higher than I.

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Speaker 1: I am not a fan of his. Yeah, you picked

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Speaker 1: a guy, tell me all about it. Because you like

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Speaker 1: The classic. Yeah, but he doesn't finish. He is one

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Speaker 1: But plays bakery. Yeah, he made some plays here, but

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Speaker 1: normally he does not finish and that and that bothered

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Speaker 1: i'd say him do it. But overall though, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: overall though, there's he's generally a low tackler, like a

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Speaker 1: think there's not only the physicality, which I percent agree

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Speaker 1: go which hinders an athletics is so right? I see

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Speaker 1: a project. I see a guy who you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: you know. The last line of the thing is lazy

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Speaker 1: in the way he plays. So I I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean and again, Penn State, Iowa, Oklahoma, Michigan all

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Speaker 1: games I watched. Those are some big time competition there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely do you line up at play well against those cats?

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get my attention. He got my

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Speaker 1: line of my report. Has encouraging athleticism to be a

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Speaker 1: this point in his development, lacking to take on skills, instincts,

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Speaker 1: you've got him with a fifth round grade. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: his athleticisms, yeah, someone will, Yeah, he'll get overdrafted. There's

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Speaker 1: had some good questions today, Carlos, which we've beaten. We've

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Speaker 1: beaten the trade up from nineteen into the ground to

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Speaker 1: the I mean, I don't know what else we have

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Speaker 1: need to say. Let's go go get the player. Carlos says,

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Speaker 1: So what about trading up from fifty the old DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence maneuver? Right, trade up from fifty into the you know,

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Speaker 1: thirties forties? Yeah? How is that different? How is the

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Speaker 1: price different? How is the strategy different? How do you

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Speaker 1: feel about it? Okay, let's give you example. Our pick

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Speaker 1: at fifty Carlos, Right, yeah, is worth four hundred points?

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Speaker 1: All right? If we want to go to say, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the thirty six pick. Okay, so we want

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Speaker 1: to go for thirty six. Now I want to say

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Speaker 1: d law was forty eight to thirty four. I think, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you want to go thirty four. Well, just I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to gauge the spot. All right. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: you said fifty to thirty six, right, So that's the

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Speaker 1: same number of spots as the Lawrence trip. Right, that's

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Speaker 1: five that picks worth five hundred and forty points. So

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Speaker 1: you're one hundred and forty points shy right, you're looking,

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Speaker 1: you're looking, you're an overpay would be your third. But

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Speaker 1: that's probably what you would have to with. What you'd

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Speaker 1: have to do it, Lawrence, So that if you want

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Speaker 1: to go up, if you want to go up to

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Speaker 1: thirty six, you would probably have to part ways with

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Speaker 1: eighty one. Yeah, if you're willing to do that, all right.

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Speaker 1: What if I just want to go from fifty to

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Speaker 1: forty four, that would be four sixty. So it's a

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Speaker 1: sixty point swinging right there. How much is my pick

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Speaker 1: one thirty seven worth? Pick one thirty seven is worth

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, So that's an under pay. Yeah, that's That's

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Speaker 1: the number one thing that I wish all draft fans

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Speaker 1: understood is just the price of trading, right. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not cheap. It's harder to move around and give up

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Speaker 1: something to get something that right. So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at guys at certain rounds, you're sitting

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Speaker 1: there thinking, man, we're gonna have to go early unless

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Speaker 1: you want to give up picks to do that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, let me ask you this, would you rather

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Speaker 1: go up in the first or up in the second

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Speaker 1: in this draft, it's hard to say because we don't

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Speaker 1: know who will be available in early you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if that is an unfair question, if it will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: falls to the early second round or you know, into

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Speaker 1: the second day he's available early second round, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: consider that, right, And I think it's fair to say

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Speaker 1: that every year there's a guy sitting there in the

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Speaker 1: thirty to thirty five forty range where you're like, whoa

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Speaker 1: mount land Landon Collins comes to mind. It's a guy

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Speaker 1: that people were sandlogba. Yeah, two years ago, real quick,

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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys didn't make that move up for DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: he gave up the third round pick. Here are the

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Speaker 1: three players chosen when the Cowboys original third round pick

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Speaker 1: and the two picks after Spencer long guard, Terrence Brooks,

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Speaker 1: a safety, Dexter McDougal a corner. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: three players that yeah, you know, just although I'm pretty sure,

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Speaker 1: um Stephen Jones said after that draft that LSU guard

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Speaker 1: Trade Turner probably would have been the pick, right and

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Speaker 1: turned out to be a pretty Yeah, he was taken

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Speaker 1: like twenty picks later by Carolina, right right, But I

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Speaker 1: mean so I mean you are, you're giving up a

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Speaker 1: valuable commodity. And see, I'm trying to determine what should

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Speaker 1: you give up your fifth year give up you're eighty one.

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Speaker 1: That means either or yeah, which is gonna help you

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Speaker 1: the most? Oh, I'm I mean And Dane's right, it

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Speaker 1: depends on who's there, and we can't say that for

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Speaker 1: sure until the draft. But I'm much more attracted to

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Speaker 1: the idea of trading up in the first because of

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Speaker 1: what you're presumably getting. Okay, well, let's if you're trading

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Speaker 1: up to twelve, if you're doing your job right, you're

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Speaker 1: getting a multiple time problem. Let's let's start out there.

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Speaker 1: Who would you rather have Rashaun Evans in the first

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Speaker 1: and then you say you trade up in the early

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Speaker 1: second for what's realistic? Um, I don't. I'd like to say,

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Speaker 1: well her Nandez, but I'm not sure that's realistic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic that would be about let's

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Speaker 1: stay it's a defensive tests say drawn Payne. Okay, say

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Speaker 1: he follows the early second round, Rashaan Evans drawn pain

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Speaker 1: to Alibana player. Yeah, would you rather have that to

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Speaker 1: those two guys or would you rather trade up in

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Speaker 1: the first Rashaan Evans and then the third you get Senat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Roquan and Sanat or Evans and Pain. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's me personally, I think i'd lean towards the better

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Speaker 1: overall player, which is go up. Right, so I'm getting

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Speaker 1: I agree, out of those four players, you're getting the

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Speaker 1: one in the four in terms of best players instead

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Speaker 1: of the two in the three. But you feel good

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Speaker 1: about the one, right, I agree with that logic. Yes see,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying that the trade the trade up

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Speaker 1: But I'm kind of I'm kind of one of those guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of the go up early guy. I'm the

634
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Speaker 1: I'm the go up and get the player and then

635
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: let but again and I'll work my board, you know,

636
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I'll work my board without without pick fifty. But if

637
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: you said the right name, if it was the name

638
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: that really piqued your interest, then there's nothing wrong with

639
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: that whatsoever. Like Will Hernandez, Yeah, okay, Rashaan Evans and

640
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez. Yeah, that's a nice slow haul right there.

641
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: I mean that that's not bad. That makes it tougher

642
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: of a decision, I think, And I mean that's when

643
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: they traded it for DeMarcus Lawrence. Lawrence is my twenty

644
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: sixth best player that year, and I gave him a

645
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: first round grade. Sure, I was all on board with that,

646
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: and you know the Cowboys obviously had a high grade

647
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: on him as well. So I don't think they have

648
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: any regrets about that movie, No, not at all. So

649
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think again, a lot of it depends.

650
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: It's always going to depend on who's on the board,

651
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: of course. But that's when I ask you, guys, Okay,

652
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: where do you have where would you think that the

653
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: guy would get picked? You tell me eight to twelve, Okay,

654
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: you tell me another guy gets picked ten to fifteen.

655
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: You know, I want to gauge where where that where

656
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the level of comfort really is for everybody? Yeah, give

657
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: me Realkal. He's a top ten player in this draft.

658
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: All right. It was long. As long as we're doing,

659
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: as long as we're we we just love talking about

660
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the trades. It's fine. Well, no, I think you have

661
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: to prepare. We're mock draft where you know, where all

662
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden we might have some opportunity to go up.

663
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: All right, we've talked plenty about Rokuan and Derwin James,

664
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: what about the pass rushers what I mean? And Marcus

665
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Davenport not so much. But Harold Landry we know was

666
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: a thirty visit, right, you trading up for that? And

667
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: how high? Because I and I'm really starting to come

668
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: around on Harold Landry. I think I've said that already,

669
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: but it's hard for me to believe that, you know,

670
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: second and third pass rusher fall as far as nineteen

671
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: meaning death. You're hoping Landry over Landry as shuren't you?

672
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: I would much rather have Harold Landry? Yeah, so what

673
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I'd rather have land And there a chance that Landry

674
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: gets to nineteen. I don't think so. I doubt it

675
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: because he's a pass rusher and those guys just don't last.

676
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it's possible, it's certainly possible. I don't

677
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think it likely. Okay, does he

678
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: become one of our trade up guys to see fourteen?

679
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: That's that's the question. I kind of love that idea,

680
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: because again, you're going all the way to twelve. You could,

681
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: let's say, if Landry's there at fifteen, maybe you gets Arizona,

682
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: you have to trade your third. You can maybe get

683
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: there with just eighty one. Yeah, that's I'm saying you

684
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: want to go get him, that you want to go

685
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: get him at fifteen and we lose eighty one, that's fine,

686
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I mean, not that I love I want

687
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: to have pick eighty one, But if I'm getting Harold

688
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Dry and I don't have to give up my second

689
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: round pick, that's that's not too shabby. I mean, you're

690
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: not feeling good about your first round pick from last year,

691
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: are you? And we've well, we and I think we

692
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: talked about this when we talked about Landry might Lawrence.

693
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: You might not be able to aff Lawrence. I think

694
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: you have to. It's not only that you're preparing for it,

695
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: but it's just like just draft pass rushers, like yeah,

696
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: I agree, Tyrone Crawford, you can get out of his

697
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: contract after next year if it's something you decide you

698
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: want to do. DeMarcus Lawrence, you have no idea what's

699
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: going on there, right, Randy Gregory is I mean, we

700
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: could do a whole podcast about what's going to happen there.

701
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: You can't count on that, right, And And I mean,

702
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: I have I have again another guy that you can't necessarily.

703
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: The last time we met, they'd signed Tony Ely. Now

704
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Cony Ely's on a one year deal, right, And I

705
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: have faith that Taco can develop into a good player.

706
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: But I'm certainly just not left end. Not yeah, well exactly,

707
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's probably not going to be your

708
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: twelve sack guy. So absolutely i'd draft Harold Landry and

709
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think twice about it. I would draft him

710
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: in nineteen. I just I would have concerns about trading

711
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: A for him, I guess just because because it hinders

712
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: your ability to draft just more players that you need. Yeah,

713
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: like that third round pick, are you're thinking it more?

714
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a you think more? It's gonna be

715
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: the pick at eighty one, the safety. I think there's

716
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: a good chance of that, And I don't know if

717
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: I would want to give him up just to make

718
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: sure I get that's I'm saying. We we it's gonna

719
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: be a gut check if we're going we're gonna have

720
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: to We're gonna have to swallow hard here and think

721
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen because we might we might

722
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: lose out on some guy. Remember the original discussion we

723
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: had back in January, how man, we're gonna wiped out.

724
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Broquan's not going to be there, like we don't think

725
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: they are. But we accepted that. Yeah, so now we're

726
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 1: we're okay with We're at least understanding of the Layton

727
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: vander Esh's that Taven Bryant's like that Evan group. Yeah. Right,

728
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: and so at this point I feel good trading back exactly.

729
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm okay trading back four or five spots, picking up

730
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: an extra third and you know, letting someone else go

731
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: up to get a guy getting my guy twenty three,

732
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: twenty four, Okay, we we eliminated taken mclinchy then at nineteen. No,

733
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: not at all. No, he's this is we've talked about it.

734
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: The most wide open first round for the Yeah, I

735
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: would rather but no, no, if we if we if

736
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: we want to go back, if we want to go back,

737
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna give up. We're gonna give up mclinchy. Oh,

738
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean I'm okay with that. I don't want to

739
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: draft mcclinchy, not because he's not a good player. It

740
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: seems redundant to me. Yeah, but I don't like, there's

741
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: not a lot of stuff you could throw at me

742
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: that would just get me to, you know, drop my

743
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: head in disgust. Like it's we've covered it pretty well. Yeah,

744
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right, which, Okay, well, god

745
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: that I didn't even mean to do that segue. That's great.

746
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: So Gino wants to know, is it possible for them

747
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: to mess up the nineteenth overall pick? I mean, think

748
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: about all the options? Okay, oh, I mean draft Colton Miller.

749
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: That would be a mess up to me. Now to them,

750
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: they that they if they that's their guy, that's their guy.

751
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: But I yeah, drafted Colton Miller to me at nineteen

752
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: would be a mess up. That absolutely will be a

753
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: mess up. And maybe for me it would be Now

754
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: to them, I don't know about that. Maybe in three

755
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: years we look back at this and wow, we were

756
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: really wrong Colton Miller. But based on the tape, based

757
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: on his workout numbers were a lot better than play

758
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: on the field, and you just you worry about the

759
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: development and I don't know, technique, the discipline. NFL pass

760
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: rushers are going to eat him alive until he's pixes.

761
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: A lot of things and so, yeah, I think that

762
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: would qualify as a mess up. Would vander Esh qualify

763
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: as a mess up for you? Is it that drastic

764
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: that you would know a mess up? No, that's and

765
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. That's it's a Colton Miller

766
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: to me, if they, if they, if they handed in

767
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: that card and I had to start talking about Colton Miller,

768
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be very fair. I really don't.

769
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Would you just leave the studio? No, I wouldn't leave

770
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: the studio because there's other picks to be made. But

771
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: it's still my parents aren't listener. I just I just

772
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: would not be very fair about it. Yeah, I just wouldn't.

773
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: And I feel like the players, the thirty visit guys

774
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: they brought, I think have been good players for the

775
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: most part. Yeah, but I if that consideration of Colton,

776
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I would have a hard time with that one. Which okay,

777
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and this whole question centered on one guy, which for

778
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: me is encouraging because that means you can at least

779
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: justify of them. Let's say there's eight realistic options. Yea,

780
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: of those, they're all I mean, they're all good players.

781
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you like Rashaan Evans more than Layton vanderv

782
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not gonna kill that pick, you know,

783
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: and I don't think most people. I don't think most

784
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: people would. Right, what pick of the thirty that you

785
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: know would be you would be the most excited about,

786
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: most excited of the thirty thirty visits, um, Harold Landry

787
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: or DJ Moore. Yeah, it's not bad. I mean Roquan

788
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a top thirty. Yeah, Derwin James wasn't a top three.

789
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, right, guys, they brought in those

790
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, the top players on my board would

791
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: be Ridley Landry and more in all three or in

792
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: my top fifteen. Yeah, yeah, what about you? I think

793
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you on that. Nobody we excited

794
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: because you you just still still don't have the love

795
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: for Vita Vea. No, I don't. Okay, I'd be fine

796
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: with that. I wouldn't be jacked. It's which he might.

797
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a good player. I'm not

798
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: saying he wouldn't be great for this team, but the

799
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: nature of his position, it wouldn't just get me. It

800
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: seems like it's a group though, we would all be

801
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: excited about Landry at nineteen Yeah, yeah, pass rushers, that

802
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: would be that's a bargain, like I mean a position

803
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: or it's the second most important position on your roster.

804
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: You can never have too much pass rush good deal.

805
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a little time out here.

806
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna get into Dane's got

807
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,760
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865
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: do you got for us today? All right? We got

866
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: ten questions? Ten questions multiple choice, so it's fairly you know,

867
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: no uh, no crazy answers here, get your screen. I

868
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: don't know any answers. I've got them all up here.

869
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's get started. There's ten. Let's see how

870
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: many guys can get both. Feel free to take an answer,

871
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: an answer whenever you want multiple Here we go. First up.

872
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: In three seasons at the college level, this big ten

873
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: corner collected a whopping forty two passes defended but zero interceptions,

874
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: which is an amazing number. A Grant Haley Penn State B.

875
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson Iowa, see Denzel Award, Ohio State D. Nick

876
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Nelson Wisconsin. It can't be Jackson. We saw him intercept. Yeah,

877
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I think it's the Wisconsin kid. I think it's a Ward.

878
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: That's gonna be my guest. I'm gonna go with Nelson

879
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: ding ding forty two passes defended zero. That's an amazing

880
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: stat like, by the way, and he got hurt the

881
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: other day working out for the Giants. Olliant? Oh I

882
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: thought was the Giants. Was a guy that got street

883
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: bcl with the Giants? Oh god? So yeah, terrible. So yeah,

884
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: here's the guy kind of So all right, Nelson, how

885
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: do you get your hands on forty two balls and

886
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: not intercept one? You know, it's just that's that's pool skill.

887
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's a that's a concern. All right, all right,

888
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: numbe two passes and that one interception. That's amazing. Uh,

889
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: all you're happy now I got one right there, you go.

890
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, I'll see if you can get this one

891
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: helmet offensive lineman. This offensive lineman posted a one six

892
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: seven ten yards split one six seven. Oh gosh, the

893
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: best for an offensive lineman since two thousand and six. Oh,

894
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: I got this one? Is it? Desmond Harrison, West Georgia? Yes,

895
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Colton Miller, UCLA, Joseph note Boom TCU, Brian O'Neill, who

896
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: hit ooh ooh no, it's Harrison. I'm gonna say I'm

897
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: gonna say it's O'Neill, you're what do we talk about

898
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: the testing number? Miller? Just remember we were talking so

899
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: much about Harrison around. I thought O'Neill had a really

900
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: good start. That's well he did. I mean, these guys

901
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: didn't have poor ten yards split. See, no boom was

902
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: no boom from TCU was a little bit of of

903
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: a like. Is that that's what this is all about?

904
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: Colton Millard. All this coldon Miller hype is just because

905
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: he tested well. Well, that's kind of the size of man.

906
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Him and O'Neill are the two guys the pit O'Neill,

907
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: they're the two guys that are the really good athletes

908
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: think and don't always play like they're great as is it?

909
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: Offensive tackle is super high on my list of like

910
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't care how you tested, Like, how do you

911
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: how do you play technical skill? Yeah, that's what it's

912
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: all about. What did I guess that? It's okay? I'm

913
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over. We still got one to zero.

914
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Next up, only Mason Rudolph and this quarterback through for

915
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: over four thousand yards each of the last two years

916
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: at the FBS level. Is it? Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma, Mike White,

917
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky, Sam Darnold USC or Logan Woodside Toledo. Only

918
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: this player and Mason Rudolph thron over four thousand yards

919
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: each of the last two years. Four thousand yards is

920
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: such an absurd number for a college season. I want

921
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: to say, I'm pretty sure Donald hit it, though, I

922
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: want to say, I'm gonna say Mike White, damn it,

923
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Yeah, Mike White could spin it and

924
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: you can't spin it. And Darnold was the first USC

925
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: quarterback to ever threw over four thousand yards, which he

926
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: did this year. He felt, Yeah, so you're not totally

927
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: a White. West was right. I just didn't. Hey, there's

928
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: a guy. I have a feeling there's a guy that

929
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: Mike you know, you don't like to hear this. I

930
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: think he at the top of that second round. Keep

931
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: an eye on Mike White. Yeah, we keep an eye

932
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: on show for that, I know. But I'm just saying,

933
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: everybody's paying attention to all these other quarterbacks. Keep an

934
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: eye on Mike White. Spoiler, he'll be in my third

935
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: round of my seven round lock where I'm New England

936
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Patriots pick forty three places Jimmy g with another one.

937
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: You never know, all right, So two to enough in

938
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: thirty three questions A nightmare number four the running back.

939
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: This running back is the first player in SEC history

940
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: to have over three two hundred and fifty yard rushing

941
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: performances in his career. Is it Darius guys? LSU, carry

942
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: On Johnson Auburn, Nick Chubb, Georgia Sony Michelle. He threw

943
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: this in just for me. Absolutely ahead, take it. Yeah,

944
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: it's guys. Absolutely, it's guys Arkansas, A and M. And

945
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I think Old Miss I was hoping I get the

946
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: LSU guys, but he guys, you're right, guys. That was

947
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: that was something that when those TV games always like

948
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: to talk and he was rolling against Old Miss kept

949
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: two of those while he was spelling Fournette like he

950
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: was the backup. And yeah, anyway, exactly, all right, so

951
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: we have three to one through four through five US. Yeah,

952
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: next up. A big reason this offensive skill player attended

953
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: the school that he did was because his twin sister

954
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: received a track scholarship to the same school. Oh crap,

955
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: I know this. Rashad Penny San Diego State, Dante Pettis Washington,

956
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: nikem Hines, NC State, Jamon Moore, Missouri. Damn. One of

957
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: those four players his twin sister were into the same

958
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: school because she received a track scholarship. And that's a

959
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: big reason why this pest. First, I have read this

960
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess. I'm

961
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: gonna guess Pettis at Washington. I think it's Pettis two.

962
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: But I can't catch you if I give the same answer,

963
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say Hines. Yeah, his twin sister, Naya

964
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: went to head a track scholarship to NC State. He

965
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: ran track two as well, right, and he had scholarship

966
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: bars from Ohio State and you know, bigger programs at

967
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: NC State. But that was one of the reasons. What

968
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: a good brother, wolf back? Yeah, next up? So it

969
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: was a three to two. Yeah. This player's father was

970
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: a first round pick in the two thousand NFL draft. How,

971
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean, how amazing is that? Getting there's a player

972
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: in this draft who had a father draft in two thousand,

973
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: getting old out of Arizona State. So this player, this

974
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: prospect in this draft was it His dad went to

975
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State and was a first round pick in two thousand. Okay,

976
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: all right, Cedric Wilson, Boise State, Anthony Averitt Alabama, Dmitri

977
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Flowers Oklahoma, Rashim Green USC. I'm gonna say Flowers. I'm

978
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: gonna say Green Pitrie Flowers. Ye, his dad was a

979
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: first front pick safety linebacker. See see that's such an

980
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: unfair advantage. Okay, watched I watched the two thousand draft

981
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: with my dad when I was in the fifth grade

982
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: and you were I was at Vallet ratche Valle ratch.

983
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: So okay, four to two? All right, how's a good one?

984
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: I like this one? Okay? Ogbo oquaran quo. Nice job Oklahoma. Yes,

985
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Ding and this fellow pass rusher Prospect graduated together from

986
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Houston's Leaf Taylor High School, and they were both born

987
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: on the same day. Not only were they passed rusher

988
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: the same high school, graduated together, they're born in the

989
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: same way. Shameless plug. This is the type of stuff

990
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's all in here. All of these are

991
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: fun there. I just I went through the guide and

992
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: randomly picked a bunch of random stuff. Is it A

993
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport UTSA Duke, A four Wake Forest Uchenna Nuosu

994
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: USC or Taekwon Lewis, Ohio State one of those four

995
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: was high school teammates with oo o Quo when they

996
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: share the same birthday. Taekwon Lewis final answer, I'm gonna

997
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: go with winsu in. Yeah, Duke four, of course, interesting enough,

998
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: they're both sons of Nigerian immigrants. Yeah, just kind of

999
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: crazy parallel. That's what I did. I kind of went

1000
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: on the I went on the different plane there for sure. Yeah. Okay,

1001
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: so four to two, we have three questions left. Still time.

1002
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, only if I had batten a thousand the

1003
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: rest of the way. But let's do it. This defensive

1004
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: prospect didn't play football until a senior year in high school,

1005
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: and even and then he was a running back? Is

1006
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: it Leon Jacobs Wisconsin, Jennard Avery, Memphis, Ronnie Harrison Alabama,

1007
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: or Darius Leonard South Carolina State. This is another one

1008
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: that upsets me because I've read this too, like I know,

1009
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: like I just like there's in the beast, there's eighteen

1010
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: thousand little facts and I can't connect them all to players, um,

1011
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Leon Jacobs Wisconsin, Jennard Avery, Memphis, Ronnie Harrison Alabama, or

1012
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard South Carolina State. It sounds it sounds so

1013
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: Alabama for a star safety too. I mean Landon Collins

1014
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: was an All state running back. So I'm gonna say

1015
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, I'm gonna go with Avery Leon Jacobs. Oh Wisconsin,

1016
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: good player. Chap by the way, Yeah, he was a

1017
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: basketball guy growing up. Yeah, decided to try so he

1018
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: transferred schools, tried off football, was a standout running back

1019
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: and goes to Wisconsin as kind of an athlete. Right.

1020
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: They played him at fullback, they played him at linebacker.

1021
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: Find settled in this Tape's goods watching him? Like he's fun? Yeah, Wisconsin,

1022
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: Wisconsin just has Jama Tiremyer was watching him the other day,

1023
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: was like, man, this guy's a fun player to watch.

1024
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's good, highly aggressive. Yeah he finally

1025
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: missed that. Okay, all right, left, you can still but

1026
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to This cornerback prospect played football at

1027
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: Division three Marietta in twenty eleven, yes, seven years ago.

1028
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: How old is this guy? He finished his college career

1029
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: with twenty passes defended in five interceptions in twenty seventeen

1030
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: at a Nonpower five program. And this is a guy

1031
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: that you know, Mike and drafted, is it? Perry Nickerson Tulane,

1032
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: Darius Phillips, Western Michigan, Dietrich Nichols, South Florida or Darius

1033
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: Williams U A B. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna

1034
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: go with the Tulane kid, Nickerson. I was going to

1035
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: say that too, So I'm gonna go with the Western

1036
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Michigan kid. You ab Darry Williams. Uh talk about a

1037
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: fascinating story. Division three Marietta. Sure, twenty eleven? How long

1038
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: ago was that? How old is he? He's gonna be

1039
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old rookie? Right? I mean he

1040
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: goes to h U A B. He didn't make the team,

1041
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: had to try out multiple times, right, finally makes the

1042
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: team in the program disbands, right, Yeah, and then wait

1043
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah, and then he you know, kind

1044
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: of thought his football career was over and comes back

1045
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: when the program comes back and as a senior twenty passes, defended,

1046
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Speaker 1: five interceptions. He's he's that undersized nickelback type of guy.

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00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: There's I love. There's so many and we don't have

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00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: time to get to all the craziest stories in the

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00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: in the draft. That's part of what makes it so cool. Well,

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00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: that's part of why I wanted to do this right, Yeah, absolutely,

1051
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: absolutely a class one right. Final question, I can't win.

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Speaker 1: You're okay, You're happy, Brian. We know that tremaand Edmonds

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00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: will be the youngest player drafted this year at only

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00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Deonte Burnett USC will be the second youngest.

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Speaker 1: Who will be the third youngest player in this draft?

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00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Will it be James Daniels Iowa, Ronald Jones USC, Connor

1057
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Williams Texas or Tim Suttle Virginia Tech. Again, I feel

1058
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: like I've read this somewhere and I did a profile

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00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: of Ronald Jones at some point this offseason, and I

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00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: want to say it's him. I'm like, he's pretty damn young.

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00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Connor Williams. They're both young. But

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00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: the answer is James Daniels Iowa. Yeah, from Iowa. Thirty

1063
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: Visit guy by the way too. I think of I

1064
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: just all offensive linemen are old in my head. Oh yeah,

1065
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing we talk about Billy Price or James Daniels.

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00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: Billy Price is literally three years older than James Daniels.

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00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a big gap there. There's I

1068
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: went through their seventeen players who will be under twenty

1069
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: one years old on draft weekend? Who drafted Jason Witten

1070
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: that way? Young Billy? Yeah guy, Yeah, so well that's

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00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: uh what to two? Two? Hey? Well how many? How

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00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: many did we both miss through? Like the last four? Yeah,

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00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was we were it was kind of

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: everyone and all that. Yeah, we were all kind of

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00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: thinking about kind of like a pillow fight. It's fine, hopefully,

1076
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: Uh those falling along at home, did uh get a

1077
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: little bit better the beast. You'll figure that's exactly look

1078
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: through it, you'll find these answers. Yeah. I love the

1079
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: fact that maybe you've missed it at the beginning. Dane

1080
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: didn't have answers on his sheet because he's just got

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: them all up here. He's got Dan, Dan's Matt Damon

1082
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: from good Will Hunting, Like it's just all in his head.

1083
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: When that's all you focus on for your entire life

1084
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: or your entire calendar year, they kind of stick. I

1085
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know why, but they do. Uh yeah, some good

1086
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: some good question Yeah, absolutely, some good questions. You know, Yes,

1087
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: you know Dallas the day they start their their draft

1088
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: meetings today, yeah, you know, and then when they were

1089
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: seventeen days away from them getting started though, is what

1090
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: what do you think? It just comes kind of think,

1091
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: where's going to be a difficult position? As you know

1092
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: with Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrets, what's going to

1093
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: be a difficult position for them to have to work

1094
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: through as these meetings start? What if you were if

1095
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: you were to, if you're Will McClay, what position do

1096
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: you start with? Because that's why you're a little fresh.

1097
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's exciting you're in. What position would you

1098
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: go through to try and figure things out? To start?

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00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I know you don't mean it this way. That position

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00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: that I think Will McClay has to work through is

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: the long term of the coaching staff with this team,

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: that type of that position. Because a guy like David Bryan,

1103
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: he's made for Rod Marinelli's defense R three technique. But

1104
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: can you really I mean Rod Marinelli gonna be the

1105
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator next year? Sure? You know, a long term

1106
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: is he gonna be a fit for this team? Sure?

1107
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: How does that play into their decision? You know? How

1108
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: does do they need So you're more worried about Okay, okay,

1109
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: what if they take the coaching staff out of it? Though?

1110
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 1: And that's the start with the player, and you can't

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00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: do that. You can't do that, You're right, right, Will

1112
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: McClay has to balance all those things. Oh sure, because

1113
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: he asked, I worry about the long term, but you

1114
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: also have to worry about what's could be. Yeah. Yeah,

1115
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: they're poised to win right now and you have to

1116
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: worry about that, but you also have to worry about

1117
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: the long term. So it's it's a fascinating, you know,

1118
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: wire act that you have to yeah, like, oh, to

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00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: think about my team long term, right, But where the

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Speaker 1: coaches are thinking, well this, if we don't have a

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00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: successful season, we might be Tavin Bryan's a perfect example

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00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: because he's perfect as a three technique for Rod Marinelli.

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: But does it creep into the back of your mind

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: that you know, long term for this team maybe scheme

1125
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: wise or you know. So that's what can you say

1126
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: about Vita Vea though too. That's a great point. Yeah, well,

1127
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: if you if you is it? Sometimes you just say coaches,

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00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: you're out. That's and that's going back to what you

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: asked me about Vita Vea. I I recognize them as possibilities,

1130
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about

1131
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: Vita Vea or Duran Pain because I'll believe that they're

1132
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: going to draft those guys when I see it happen.

1133
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: And if they do, then that to me represents a

1134
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: pretty significant departure from what we've seen over the last

1135
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: five years. And maybe that means they changed something about

1136
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: the way that they stack all this up. Yeah, and

1137
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe if a latent Vanderish and a Tavin Bryant are

1138
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: like equals to sure touching, sure, maybe they would give

1139
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: the edge to a latent Vandersch. It's a little more versatile, right,

1140
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, with the different things that he can do

1141
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: at different linebacker spots. It's it's an interesting wrinkle I

1142
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: think to this draft that Will McClay and the Joneses

1143
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: and the entire front office have to You don't want

1144
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: to have that make your draft decision, right, but it

1145
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: has to creep into the back of your mind. Well,

1146
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: the coaches are gonna fight for guys who are ready

1147
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: to play right now. Sure, coaches want nothing to do,

1148
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: especially if they're in a position where you feel like, hey,

1149
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: this could be my last campaign. Yeah, you know, well

1150
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: answer me this. I mean, you've done it before, So

1151
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is it as simple as starting with the

1152
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: positions that you feel like you're that are most likely

1153
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: to be there for you at nineteen or do you

1154
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: start with the position that is the most important for

1155
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: you to come out of the draft with a player

1156
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: at this spot. I think you start with the position

1157
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: that you feel most important about. I mean, if that's

1158
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: the case, they gonna start start with lineback, Yeah, start

1159
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: you start. You want to start this thing where guys

1160
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: are fresh. Yeah, you really really do? You want it

1161
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: where everybody's locked in, ready to go. That's what you

1162
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: want to do? You want to And I'll ask, I'll

1163
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: ask what you know position? You know, I'll tell you

1164
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: real quick that somebody, when we have a little about

1165
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: a minute left, someone want to tell a story about

1166
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. Coach has influenced how we in that draft

1167
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: and when we when we end up taking Jones instead

1168
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: of Stephen Jackson because a coach stepped up and said

1169
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: those running backs in the second round are just as

1170
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: good as Steven Jackson, and that got Bill Parcel's attention,

1171
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: That got Jerry Jones attention. When Tom Donohoe from Buffalo

1172
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: kept trying to call, kept trying to call, kept trying

1173
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: to call and finally offered next year's one. It was

1174
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Maurice Cawthon on the running back coach, and said, those

1175
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: running backs in the second round are just as good

1176
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: as and you know, we were gonna take more. We

1177
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: were gonna take the Jones kid from Virginia Tech. We

1178
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Stephen Jackson, Kevin Jones. Yeah. Yeah, So

1179
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: that's where that went. That was kind of like, that's it,

1180
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: but that's the story. A coach influenced which way we

1181
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: went on that board. And I mean, I say this

1182
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean and I feel like there

1183
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: will be a shift here in the next couple of

1184
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: weeks and you'll be able to sense it from whether

1185
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: it's this show, whether other people on Twitter and coaches

1186
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: are going to have their say they always do and

1187
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: so for good or for worse, I feel like you're

1188
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: gonna hear and see some changing of opinions about these

1189
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: players and the role that they have here. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're at the time right now. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you everybody out there for joining us here in the

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Speaker 1: draft show for something by Miller Lite. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll be with you Thursday at eleven am so. This

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