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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. Hello there, Connie

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Speaker 2: Willis here with you again. Thanks so much for all

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Speaker 2: the emails that you send me and all the compliments,

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Speaker 2: so many nice things. What I've done is I've opened

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Speaker 2: write it down as a testimonial, it's not really testimonials.

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Speaker 2: It's you guys just writing in. And some of you

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Speaker 2: I've left your names in there, and some of you

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Speaker 2: have just got like your last name or your first

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Speaker 2: know if you wanted your names up there. But you'll

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Speaker 2: see like a ticker tape go by. If you go

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Speaker 2: to Connie Willis dot com, you'll see a ticker tape

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Speaker 2: go by and it says all the nice things that

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Speaker 2: you guys have left me in emails, and I just,

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Speaker 2: you know, I could just add so many more. I

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Speaker 2: thank you. I just cannot thank you enough for that,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate it so much. And it's amazing too

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Speaker 2: that I've put up some of my resume reels. My

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Speaker 2: whole world is television and film and radio, and you

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Speaker 2: may have seen me long the years, in the decades

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Speaker 2: on some show or some infomercial, or some sport activity

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Speaker 2: response I got from that too, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 2: they've been up the whole time, but you got to

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Speaker 2: And and so thank you for all the things that

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Speaker 2: you said about those too. Appreciate that makes you feel good,

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Speaker 2: because you know that's decades ago. So that's at Connie

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Speaker 2: Willis dot com. Hope you'll sign up for my shows

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Speaker 2: and take you out on those creepy hotspots like once

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Speaker 2: before went out to the Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, and

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Speaker 2: that's where I met Jeremiah Horseman, who's with us tonight,

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Speaker 2: and Jeremiah is telling us about the surge that's happening

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Speaker 2: there in Arizona. You know, I want to just say,

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Speaker 2: because it just sounds so poetic, UFOs over Sedona, but

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Speaker 2: it's around, you know, it's outside of Sedona as well. Now, Jeremiah,

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Speaker 2: you were in the middle of a story. So if

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Speaker 2: you can catch us right back up to that and

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Speaker 2: keep going.

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Speaker 3: Sure. Sure. So what we pulled up to this spot

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Speaker 3: in mind you is it's in the middle of the desert.

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Speaker 3: Bill Gray Road is just a royal road, dusty and rocky.

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Speaker 3: We pull up to a random spot and Melinda's quick

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Speaker 3: to get out and she hands Alexander myself the first

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Speaker 3: set of night vision. She said, you remember how to

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Speaker 3: turnings on. Right, she turns and goes to her clients,

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Speaker 3: and we turn the night vision on. I think Alexander

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Speaker 3: was a little bit ahead of me. We step off

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Speaker 3: to the side of the road and Melinda said, look

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Speaker 3: over there, look over the left shoulder of Black Mountain.

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Speaker 3: And so we bring our night vision up to our eyes.

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Speaker 3: And these new night vision sets are incredible. You can

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Speaker 3: they see so much in a high resolution and at

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Speaker 3: a great distance you're at first and all of what

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Speaker 3: you're looking at well, right away we could see a

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Speaker 3: difficult to get to the Sycamore Creek, which is a canyon,

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Speaker 3: And then I could see as White wrought mine up

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Speaker 3: what she was looking at. There was a series of

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Speaker 3: that's nothing, that's nothing. You should have been here the

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Speaker 3: other night. There were there were dozens of them. There

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Speaker 2: See these with the naked eye as well as.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you can see the strobes. There were strobes on

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Speaker 3: And again it seems that you want to take your

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Speaker 3: watching it, and it gets slowly rises up to a

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Speaker 3: no surprise to her because she's been watching this in

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Speaker 3: take my clients back to town. And she was even apologetical,

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Speaker 3: she said, I'm so sorry there was there was so

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Speaker 3: much more than that the other night. She said, I

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Speaker 3: full of questions for her. I said, you said, this

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Speaker 3: and a lot of them nightly seeming to intercept activity

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Speaker 3: We've even met some whistleblowers as of recent, three as

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Speaker 3: an understatement, some really good evidence that there is something

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Speaker 2: But wait a minute, hold on, hold on, urge, So

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Speaker 3: We had been contacted by a organization that's putting together

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Speaker 3: if not military underground installations. They are very likely be

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Speaker 3: private contracted companies that are doing R and D. In

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Speaker 3: the research and development as it is gold out by

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Speaker 3: the ones that's here. They'll take companies that engineer certain

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Speaker 3: Those types of companies that are contracted by the federal

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Speaker 3: government are out here in the desert, not unlike what's

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Speaker 3: under Groom Lake, except that the Groom Lake facility or

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Speaker 3: area that you want is far more well known. Whatever

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Speaker 3: the Sedona area is more or less unknown, except for

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Speaker 3: the people who have been unfortunate enough to be out

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Speaker 3: guard the certain areas where these tests are being done.

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Speaker 3: And so one of the very strong theories is that

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Speaker 3: some of not all, but some of the activity that's

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Speaker 3: We can explain what it is, may well be human piloted,

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to I want to I want to

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Speaker 2: just as easily be exactly what you just said. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're they're testing these, they're you know, it's it's technology

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Speaker 2: that we've picked up ourselves from them or whatever it

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Speaker 2: might be. The black helicopters also sound as though they

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Speaker 2: could be us, and and we're what we're testing and

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Speaker 2: what we're watching. We've got the cameras on them, and

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Speaker 2: the black helicopters are filming all of this and recording

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking with all

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Speaker 2: This and that. And I'm not saying that's not the case,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. In fact, we met since my last since

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Speaker 3: thirty three years in the service, and he kind of

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Speaker 3: surprised us. I thought we were about to be threatened again,

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Speaker 3: because we've been threatened twice in the time that we've

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Speaker 3: been investigating this particular issue. And we were at all

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Speaker 3: places at Raja Ranch and the man approached us there

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, why, And my heart just sank

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Speaker 3: And this man, I guess could see the fear in

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Speaker 3: So I just want to talk to you about that.

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Speaker 3: And so we ended up talking to this man for

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Speaker 3: to make sure that I could establish that he was legitimate.

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Speaker 3: So he talked about his career and said, if you

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Speaker 3: thirty three years in the army. It's legitimate. And he

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Speaker 3: said I actually worked at a post north of Pier

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Speaker 3: and he wouldn't name the post, and he said, now

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Speaker 3: when it comes to tunnels, he said, the post that

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Speaker 3: He said it was very fast. He said I had

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Speaker 3: the time. And I interrupted, I said, okay, sir, do

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Speaker 3: you mean by a line and underground tunnel? Correct the

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Speaker 3: su Yes, he said, I use it all the time

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Speaker 3: to go back to and forth. It's going to post

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Speaker 3: again he wouldn't name the post, but he warned us.

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Speaker 3: He said, you know what with what I've been talking about,

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Speaker 3: He said, you realize these areas you've gone into. He said,

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Speaker 3: there were fences where they're not I said, there were.

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Speaker 3: He said, what made you go over the fences that

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Speaker 3: you went over, and I said, paranormal activity. We've been

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Speaker 3: investigating a lot of paranormal activity in these areas. The

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Speaker 3: same areas behind these fences are areas where people have

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Speaker 3: seen lights coming up. In fact, we have seen some

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Speaker 3: of the lights coming up, and the fences were rather annoyance.

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Speaker 3: We were trying to get into these areas. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: see any reason why there were fences there. In some

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Speaker 3: there weren't. Where there were signs, they were rather menacing

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Speaker 3: in their vocabulary, if you will, it threatening that they were,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's government fences regularly patrolled, and so on

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Speaker 3: those ones we did cross. The ones that didn't have

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Speaker 3: signs on them, we did cross. And getting into some

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Speaker 3: of these areas, we couldn't figure out why they were

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Speaker 3: fenced off. There was nothing in there. There was no

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Speaker 3: antiquity that you would think that somebody was trying to protect,

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Speaker 3: you know, in regards to the Native American dwellings and

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Speaker 3: shuts they're in the area. We just couldn't figure it out.

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Speaker 3: So we would get beyond those areas and find empty canyons.

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Speaker 3: On occasion we did find pictographs or petroglyss, but we

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Speaker 3: were really kind of wondering what these confounded defenses were

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Speaker 3: all about, and we ran into a lot of them

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Speaker 3: over the years, and then we finally were threatened after

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Speaker 3: going into one place six times. A man who had

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Speaker 3: into them and he said, look, I know what you've

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Speaker 3: how many times you've been there. He seemed to want

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Speaker 3: to establish the fact that he was very certain of

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Speaker 3: who we were and what we had done, and he said, I,

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Speaker 3: you know, you need to leave it alone and stay

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Speaker 3: out of there, and the photographs you took to delete

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Speaker 3: and forget about it. Just leave it alone. I tried

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Speaker 3: to question them as to what was beyond defenses, and

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Speaker 3: he just kept saying leave it alone, Leave alone. So

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Speaker 3: I told im, I said, well, that's that's that we're

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Speaker 3: going across Frenchies for a while because I don't want

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Speaker 3: to get shot at and I don't want to you

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Speaker 3: want of these people that turns up missing in this area,

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Speaker 3: because we do have a lot of missing persons cases

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Speaker 2: And and by the way, when when we were when

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Speaker 2: I was there with you, you when we first went

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Speaker 2: fence for me. I couldn't believe it. I was like, Oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: is this okay to go into before you get into

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Speaker 2: it any deeper? So the tunnels are lines? You found

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Speaker 2: a tunnel, yes, And when he said he would go

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Speaker 2: from this post to that book post through the lines

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Speaker 2: the tunnels, yes, was he like gone some was there

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Speaker 2: like a subway down? There? Was there some vehicle that

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Speaker 2: took him or was he just walking on just some.

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Speaker 3: Foot He didn't define it, but it seemed like what

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Speaker 3: he was referring to was something like one of those maglevs,

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Speaker 3: which is a faster like a bullet train. So that's

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Speaker 3: very fast. Wow, he said the post here in the

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Speaker 3: post in New Mexico within a very short period of time.

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Speaker 3: So I believe what he was referring to was some

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Speaker 3: He actually turned out to be a very nice man.

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Speaker 3: He was very matter of fact, but he also gave

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Speaker 3: a warning. He pointed it a map he had and

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Speaker 3: the map that he had had boundaries on it, and

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Speaker 3: the boundaries that were on it were marking areas where

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Speaker 3: there were fences where Alexander and I were familiar having

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Speaker 3: chumped these fences where they were. They said, you've been

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Speaker 3: in here, have it you? And I said yes. He

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Speaker 3: said you've been in here, have it you? And I

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Speaker 3: said yes, and he laughed. He said, you know that

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Speaker 3: these these people aren't down by much in the way

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Speaker 3: of an r oe like we were now the rules

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Speaker 3: of a dazement. I said, is it the army that's

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Speaker 3: out there in the basin and under this area? He said,

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Speaker 3: absolutely not. It's not the US army. He said, if

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Speaker 3: there was, I would know it. And so that was

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Speaker 3: That was one person coming forward. I'll call this man

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Speaker 3: a whishleblower.

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