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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lowly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely day. We're sitting here at the looking

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Speaker 1: over the practice fields here at the U p M.

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Speaker 1: C Rooney Sports Complex, Steelers wrapping up day two of

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Speaker 1: Phase three of their O t A sessions here a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier. And uh, we'd like to thank Westler

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Speaker 1: and Arthur Moates for carrying you through those first three hours.

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Speaker 1: We're taking through the next three hours and well this

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Speaker 1: is the exciting three hours. Well I'm a little jealous

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Speaker 1: of with west and Arthur because we're looking at this

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Speaker 1: lovely you know, four fields, beautiful landscape. You know, a

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Speaker 1: train will go by, a nice breeze, beautiful day, maybe

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Speaker 1: a helicopter fly it was I thought, might come take

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Speaker 1: us out. That's what we gotta look at them. That's

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Speaker 1: the way to look at those two get three hours

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Speaker 1: of a lot more in each other's eyes that too.

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Speaker 1: So we are here, um, and we can't really tell

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Speaker 1: you exactly what happened if I practice of per se,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's been a good spirited two days.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Uh, we've now seen a couple

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Speaker 1: of days of this and I did want to get

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Speaker 1: your opinion on us. I have some opinions on my own,

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Speaker 1: But has anything caught your eye in terms of anybody

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Speaker 1: you look at and go he looks different than he

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Speaker 1: did last year, or anybody that that he said, Well,

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Speaker 1: he might be a little bit better than what I thought. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is some of that. And I remember

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Speaker 1: walking up and standing next to Mike pursuit of Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 1: are you doing boy? Nausey looks bigger to me than

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Speaker 1: I remember he does. It was like, I'm not at

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Speaker 1: every practice like you guys, and I don't see them

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Speaker 1: in shorts and T shirts every day like you guys do.

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Speaker 1: But it stood out to me. I'm like, he's been

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Speaker 1: working hard in the offseason. That's pretty clear. I mean

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Speaker 1: he looked thicker, more defined, harder to tackle. I mean

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Speaker 1: that stood out to me immediately. The legs to me,

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Speaker 1: or the or the like. Yeah, the difference, the thighs,

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Speaker 1: the the way he's he carries the weight. He may

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Speaker 1: be the same exact weight that he was last year,

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Speaker 1: super sturdy, but he's just he just put together. Um.

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Speaker 1: That to me, though, doesn't mean that I'm still not

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Speaker 1: in favor of them signing a veteran running back take

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Speaker 1: something off of his plate, whether that be third downs

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Speaker 1: or short yardage or something. And there's, of course there's

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Speaker 1: other backs here and they're working hard and they look

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Speaker 1: fine from what I've seen as well. But I think

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Speaker 1: somebody that's been around the block. I mean D'Angelo Williams

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Speaker 1: version of that would be outstanding. It's just hard to

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Speaker 1: hold up, you know. And I know, seventeen games and

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Speaker 1: hopefully more, Um, you know he's gonna take such a beating.

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Speaker 1: And we know Tomlin's history going back to leve Bell

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Speaker 1: high percentage of the time, which is great, um, And

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for it. I think he can handle

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Speaker 1: the war glowed as well as anyone out there. I mean, that's,

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Speaker 1: to me, is one of his greatest strengths, including in

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Speaker 1: the passing game. But boy, I mean, I just think

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Speaker 1: the drop off between him and what else is on

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Speaker 1: the roster right now is too drastic. I agree, And

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Speaker 1: I think you know, you want somebody who can and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not twelve games, but somebody who if if,

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Speaker 1: if something were to happen for two games, could handle

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Speaker 1: those twenty five touches. And I don't know that Benny

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Speaker 1: Snell can't. But I don't know that If Benny Snell

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Speaker 1: is getting touches, that's what you wanted to Benny Snow.

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Speaker 1: My problem, I've said this a few times, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. My problem was Snell as a runner because

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Speaker 1: his special team's value is obvious to those that you know,

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Speaker 1: about that, but he has he has special teams value

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Speaker 1: in all phases. Um. I think kind of like Harris,

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Speaker 1: but in a much lesser version. One of the best

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Speaker 1: things about Snell, if not the best thing, is his

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Speaker 1: running mentality, his toughness, his ability to handle a big

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Speaker 1: school where every defensive world's keying on him, and by

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Speaker 1: He is a grinder, yeah, And and that's not always

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Speaker 1: off speed pitch? And I have two thoughts on that too.

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Speaker 1: Like we we've mentioned some names that are out there,

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Speaker 1: really a handcuff. I don't have a problem with Benny

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Speaker 1: Snell is like you're if it's him and somebody else

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Speaker 1: problem is, to me, you've got Benny Snell and a

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Speaker 1: guy that you don't know can if he can do

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Speaker 1: to count on. His pro career has been there's nothing

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Speaker 1: to go off of it. After a year. People people

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Speaker 1: But my favorite name that you brought up was David

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Speaker 1: so best day, he was a well rounded, really good receiver.

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Speaker 1: I want Nausey to be the best version of David

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Speaker 1: Naji Harris going to right now? To ask? Okay? And

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Speaker 1: I you know, adjust from that. The coaching staff is

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Speaker 1: Naji Harris is gonna gonna be able to handle more

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Speaker 1: of a workload this year. We have a pretty heavy

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Speaker 1: everyone knows Ben's not keeping it, you knoweah. And it

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Speaker 1: just makes a couple of the biggest Chris Johnson. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting any of these guys are Vince Young

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Speaker 1: or Michael Vick, you know, in terms of running abilities

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Speaker 1: that are here now. But Chris Johnson got the two

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. When Vince Young was a quarterback, you gets

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Speaker 1: so hard to crash down because they were so scared

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Speaker 1: So I think there will be a ripple effect just

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Speaker 1: from a running threat from the quarterback that will benefit NAJ.

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Speaker 1: They got five yards rushing out of the well, Actually

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Speaker 1: they got I should say they got fifty eight yards

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Speaker 1: rushing out of their quarterbacks last year. Five from Ben

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Speaker 1: on twenty carries. They're probably falling forward in fifty three

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Speaker 1: he had the long? Well? No, Harris had a thirty

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Speaker 1: And Mason Rudolph's not a plus athlete. Mr. Biski is

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. So you're going to see Naja

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Speaker 1: care what the game situation is. In our sixth series,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna sit on the bench. You know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be the first five to finish. That was always a

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Speaker 1: live bell thing. It was like I was very guilty

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Speaker 1: of this because I was very you know, I would

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Speaker 1: be critical of Tomlin, like you're using this guy up

431
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Speaker 1: too much, and I think you've said it, another said it,

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Speaker 1: and you think about it, like, well, there's no one

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Speaker 1: on the in the backfield. That's better in protection, shot yardage,

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Speaker 1: running the ball, received any facet of running back. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's going on here too. So it's almost like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hide your helmet for one series of game

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Speaker 1: and give it to this guy. But I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: who that guy is right now. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus that rated Naji Harris as the worst

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick last year. Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. We're gonna go through last year's first round.

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Speaker 1: In the next segment, we're gonna talk about who would

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Speaker 1: be worse it was the worst pick to Naji Harris.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that when we return. He has met Williams

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Speaker 1: and I am Dale Lalli. You're listening to a live

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Speaker 1: edition of The Drive here at the Steelers O t

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Speaker 1: A Sessions at the U P M. C Rooney Sports Complex.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. I yea,

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Speaker 1: we are back. I am Dale while we here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Waves and this is a live edition of the

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Speaker 1: Drive here at Steelers O t A Sessions at the

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Speaker 1: up MC in Any Sports Complex. Matt, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about Naji Harris before the before the break there and

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Speaker 1: well don't she the whole first second, and uh I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that a couple of weeks ago, Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: released something I believe that said that Naji Harris was

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Speaker 1: the worst first round draft pick in last year's draft.

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Speaker 1: And then they're saying that after a year your data.

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Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to talk about slightly before we

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Speaker 1: get there, that we just ran out of time and

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Speaker 1: this will go you know robut that a little bit too,

462
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure they're so in them in their nanolitical site.

463
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Speaker 1: Running the ball is not as important as is passing

464
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Speaker 1: the football. You don't draft running backs high. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know all those he's out there, and I'm sure

466
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the you know, the crux of their argument.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned, you know, fifteen minutes ago whatever that

468
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Speaker 1: Nauzy Coup was sixteen or sixty some balls. And I

469
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Speaker 1: still think he's not I' must saying he's gonna catch

470
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Speaker 1: a hundred, But I still think he's scratching the surface

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Speaker 1: of what he can be as a receiver. I mean

472
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Speaker 1: a high percentage of those were dump offs or screens,

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Speaker 1: were passes, Leonard four net catches, you know, I mean,

474
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Speaker 1: they weren't routes. You know, the the lev Bell David Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about backs that are more than two pounds.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pulling out the McCaffrey's of the world. That

477
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Speaker 1: could you know, it could be the slot I you know,

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Speaker 1: you saw it a ton in camp, and even like

479
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Speaker 1: one year ago, on these fields and mini camp, they

480
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Speaker 1: would detach him and run slants and things like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, run receiver routes. He didn't do much of

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Speaker 1: that in his rookie year. I think his degree of

483
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Speaker 1: difficulty of receptions and his ability to catch well away

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Speaker 1: from his frame and over his head and his long arms,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna shock people, you know that didn't see it live. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: Actually where that was said, it was Pro Football Focuses.

487
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Speaker 1: Brad Spielberger called Naji Harris the worst first round draft

488
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Speaker 1: pick of I just don't know. I've never heard of

489
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Speaker 1: Brad Speed. I don't know him either, But that's fair

490
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Speaker 1: enough typical apparently. So let's go through this first round

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Speaker 1: and you tell me better or worse pick than Nagy Harris.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence at number one, I mean, yeah, it is

493
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Speaker 1: what it is. Zach Wilson picked two. I mean, he

494
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been the quarterback I took there, I probably

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Speaker 1: would have taken fields at the time. I have a

496
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Speaker 1: lot of worries about Wilson. I mean he my big worries.

497
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Speaker 1: But had two huge worries of Wilson coming out of

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Speaker 1: b y U was he's a small person, you know.

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Speaker 1: He got like back was like this entire draft almost yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he had full grown men blocking for him at

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Speaker 1: b y U against lesser competition, and he got to

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Speaker 1: sit there and pack the football man. He made all

503
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Speaker 1: those throws in his pro day, thrown across his body

504
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Speaker 1: and stuff that doesn't happen in the NFL. Right, that's

505
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Speaker 1: sugar on top, you know that. That's a cherry. Everyone

506
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Speaker 1: wants the next mahomes that way. Well, my home is

507
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Speaker 1: a quick processor, gets the ball out on time, you know,

508
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Speaker 1: like he does. The quarterback Stuffy Trey Lance was the

509
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Speaker 1: third pick. You don't know. I mean he played six

510
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Speaker 1: games last year before you know it though, he I

511
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Speaker 1: mean he needs to see the field like now or

512
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Speaker 1: but you know nothing. He's like he's becoming Jordan's love

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Speaker 1: before your eyes, you know. Kyl Pitts sixty eight catches

514
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Speaker 1: for thousand, twenty six yards, only one touchdown last year. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a transcendent superstar. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I agree, but he didn't have the best rookie year

517
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna get a lot of attention. You know,

518
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna sneak up on anybody. I heard some

519
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Speaker 1: people that are in the know with the Falcons and

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Speaker 1: they drafted Jake London and one's a tight end and

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Speaker 1: one's a receiver. Great, but a lot of people think

522
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Speaker 1: London is going to be the slot and pittsna the

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Speaker 1: outside guy. You know, like if they race, Pitts is

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Speaker 1: gonna win. Yes, he's just that special. Yeah, Jamar Chase

525
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Speaker 1: was Jamar Chase eighty one catches for fourteen fifty five

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Speaker 1: and thirsty Jalm Waddle solid rookie year, four catches, thousand

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Speaker 1: and fifteen yards, six touchdowns. I know this isn't the

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Speaker 1: conversation we're having, but the Steelers didn't have a chance today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There by the way, it's not like an either or thing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's exactly the case. But you know, to your

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Speaker 1: Jets point, is that a bad pick? It doesn't look

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Speaker 1: great one year now where it will probably know the

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Speaker 1: answer yes or no. I mean, if I were a

534
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Speaker 1: betting man right now, I would say that two years

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Speaker 1: from now the Jets are going to be moving on

536
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Speaker 1: from Zack Wilson. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's that's the

537
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Speaker 1: way it looks. There's three or four to Wilson. That

538
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Speaker 1: and I'm not sold on Trey Land yet either, how

539
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Speaker 1: you would be? Yeah, I mean they just don't know

540
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Speaker 1: anymore about him now than then. Pine Sol went to

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Speaker 1: seven to Detroit, great pick. Jac Horne, solid pick, Patricks

542
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Speaker 1: or Taine solid pick. Uh. Davante Smith was okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think he's I'd rather Waddle, I rather

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Speaker 1: I liked Waddle better coming out. Um, but I think

545
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Speaker 1: Smith is a real high end to like a better

546
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Speaker 1: or you know somebody like that. We both like justin

547
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Speaker 1: fields and at the problem with that pick, even though

548
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Speaker 1: he didn't play, what happens with rookie quarterbacks and this

549
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Speaker 1: year might be even worse for him. Michael Parsons at

550
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Speaker 1: twelve was Michael Parsons. Yeah, sixty four tackles, thirteen sacks.

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Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater was great at thirteen. Elijah Vera Tucker at

552
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Speaker 1: four team was solid. Um, he'sh gonna be I think

553
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Speaker 1: he'll be a long time guard that goes to Pro Bowl. Honestly,

554
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Speaker 1: if you look at this draft, pretty good, it's pretty good. Uh.

555
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Speaker 1: Then you had Max Jones. Remember the Cam Newton, J. J. Watt,

556
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Speaker 1: you know, two thousand eleven drafts. All the bad picks

557
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Speaker 1: were quarterbacks. They were like Ponder and locker In, you know,

558
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Speaker 1: and every other one was a hit like the Steelers again,

559
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Speaker 1: Cam Heyward down in, you know. And I'm not saying

560
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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that rookies last year and be bus,

561
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Speaker 1: but the position players around him were strong, yeah, real strong.

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Speaker 1: You had Mac Jones at fifteen maybe good year, Yeah, um,

563
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Speaker 1: not as good as some people might agree. And and

564
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Speaker 1: people were talking about him like, oh he's a Pro

565
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Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback years and twenty two touchdowns with the first

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Speaker 1: half the year was a lot better than the second

567
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Speaker 1: half of the year. It was not. And I don't

568
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Speaker 1: know that's going to get any better. Like who's coaching

569
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Speaker 1: him this year? That's one of the things too about

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Speaker 1: Jones to me is is is he gonna have a

571
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Speaker 1: lot of years like that or ten percent better but

572
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Speaker 1: not thirty better? Yeah? Yeah, no, I agree. Zaven Collins

573
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Speaker 1: at sixteen, he didn't hit thirteen tackles last that was

574
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Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's a bad pick after after

575
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Speaker 1: one year. It doesn't mean his career written. And you

576
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Speaker 1: know he played all seventeen games too, by the way,

577
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Speaker 1: but he didn't start any of them. Yeah, I mean

578
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Speaker 1: they he was making a big jump up. He was

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Speaker 1: making up and he was a trade sky. He's six

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Speaker 1: five and his all kinds of athleticism and you know,

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Speaker 1: combined numbers. But I also have some questions with the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals approach and coaching staff because that's two years in

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Speaker 1: a row they drafted a quote line backer that was

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Speaker 1: really a safety or at the end, and they did

585
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Speaker 1: it with a Son Reddick. Like these guys that can

586
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Speaker 1: do so much and they never really found a home

587
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Speaker 1: or some of that's not helping your guys adjust to

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Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah Simmons is who I was talking about

589
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Speaker 1: the year before. You know, this next guy was the

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Speaker 1: worst pick in the first round, the worst pick in

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Speaker 1: the first round, Alex Leatherwood to the Raiders a pick

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Speaker 1: seventeen was the worst pick in the first round. I

593
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Speaker 1: mean even the second the words came out of the

594
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Speaker 1: commissioner's mouth, most of us were like, oh boy, couldn't

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Speaker 1: play right tackle, thank you. I think he started the

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Speaker 1: first four games at right tackle. One had seven penalties,

597
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Speaker 1: and then they kicked him inside the garden. He had

598
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Speaker 1: seven more penalties. Yeah, he's not a good football player.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll talk Raiders at some point. And

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Speaker 1: you know, people think the Raiders and Steelers on the

601
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: same tier, and I guess that I can get that.

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00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: They're both playoff teams that were borderline playoff teams last year.

603
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: They're a line is worrisome though. They're counting on him

604
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Speaker 1: as a starter again, as they show the first round, right,

605
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Speaker 1: and he and showed nothing to believe that he thought

606
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Speaker 1: he was a top fifty pick. Is if he would yeah, right,

607
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Speaker 1: he shouldn't have gone in the first round if he

608
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Speaker 1: he left that game against the Steelers. I think it

609
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: was late in the first quarter, yes, and Watt had

610
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Speaker 1: already drawn like two penalties on him and had a sack.

611
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Speaker 1: I wasn't say that it was gonna be ugly. That

612
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Speaker 1: almost felt like a mercy roll, like why don't you

613
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Speaker 1: uh pull a hamstring or whatever, because this is not

614
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Speaker 1: going well for you at all. He was going to

615
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Speaker 1: be eating alive in this game. And I bet us

616
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Speaker 1: at the time when we were broadcasting the draft, as

617
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Speaker 1: well as many gms in the league were like, oh,

618
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Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd go before we picked. It's like

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Speaker 1: we moved up a spot in the draft. Yeah, I

620
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Speaker 1: mean I never had that's a typical Raider pick, you know,

621
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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips to Miami at eighteen eight and a half

622
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Speaker 1: sacks as working. Yeah, he was my favorite edge guy

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Speaker 1: of that class. I still have a lot of hopes

624
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Speaker 1: for him. I think he'll be a good one. More

625
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: of a situational pass rusher right now though, yes, but

626
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Speaker 1: he's a bigger body guy. I think he'll be fine.

627
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Jam And Davis at nineteen didn't have the He played

628
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: sixteen games, forty eight tackles, one sack, but didn't make

629
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Speaker 1: the impact that I thought he would. He might be

630
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Speaker 1: the best example of you know, we've used a lot

631
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Speaker 1: of examples of young, high pedigree first round linebackers struggling

632
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: and we're referring to Bush of course, you know Davis.

633
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean all the Washington folks were like linebackers one

634
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: of our biggest deeds, like you still in the first

635
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: round last year. They think he's more of like a

636
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Speaker 1: an old school for three Lavontae David. Yeah, you know,

637
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: running hits. You know that, that type of guy, and

638
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: that's great, but you know that that you don't just

639
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: his first round pick on that guy unless they're special special. Yeah,

640
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Darius Tony when at twenty he's a weird one. He

641
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: had thirty nine catches for four d twenty yards and

642
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: ten games. I didn't like him at all coming out

643
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: of Florida and thought he was overdrafted because I think

644
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: he's really a gadget guy. He's not a route runner.

645
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: But I else say, there was two or three games

646
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: in a Giant they just force fed him in the

647
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: football because they had nobody else. Everybody else was Yeah,

648
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: but he moves differently than others. I mean, he is

649
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: really really talented. There might be a knucklehead factor there though, too,

650
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: because he never really became a route runner in Florida.

651
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: There was the offseason they were talking about training. His

652
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: new staff is not happy with them immediately, you know,

653
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: like what's going on here? I mean, so who knows

654
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Quitty pay to Indianapolis at one um did he miss

655
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: a fair amount of time? He played, finished with sixteen

656
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: tackles in four sacks and people were talking about him like, oh,

657
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Quity pay is gonna be like yeah, I mean the

658
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: they traded for the dockway and I think a lot

659
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: of people were kind of putting the cart before the horse,

660
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: saying they got their edge. Guys, now they're set and

661
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: what they do. Yeah, he needs to step up. He

662
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: showed some promise, but yeah, I don't dislike them, but

663
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a way to go. Caleb Farley

664
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: at twenty two only played in three games, and I

665
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: don't I I mean, that's a bad pick. There's no

666
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: way around it. He was very talented, had the injury issues,

667
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: you know what. You knew what they were going into

668
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: this um and they obviously were okay with with taking

669
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: him there. But the he's you know, the Titans should

670
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: expect more from him this year. Yeah, I mean, for

671
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: people don't remember. Most thought just on the field, on

672
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: his best day, he's a top five or ten pick,

673
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best corners. He's right there

674
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: with Sauce Gardner types, you know. And I see that.

675
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: But to your point, and the Titans did us a lot.

676
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: They bet they went to the roulette wheel and said

677
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna bet on black and hope that the injuries

678
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: aren't a problem. Well, after one year it came up red,

679
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they lost. I mean, like we're Simmons.

680
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: They sat him six games or something in a similar situation,

681
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: and they hit on that roulette spin and he came

682
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: back and was great. But Harley hasn't done that yet.

683
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: And Willie, who knows his college teammate Christian Derrisaw went next,

684
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and also Tennessee. He was the second round pick on

685
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: the corner again this again which isn't the ringing door.

686
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: But Kristen Darrisaw played in twelve games last year, was

687
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: okay in the games that he played in, And and

688
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: he's a left tack and let's not forget. I mean

689
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: he was the name that if he was still there

690
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: when it was nausea or him. Yeah, it was like

691
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: that would have been at that at least for you

692
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: and I Yeah, and he was good. He got better

693
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: to seize one on. Yeah, then you had nausea. Harris

694
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: at four three seven carries, twelve hundred yards, seven touchdowns,

695
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: seventy four catches for four hundred sixty seven yards three touchdowns,

696
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: so over sixteen on almost seventeen hundred total yards, ten

697
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns on three internety touches. Contrasted to Travis a t

698
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: N to pick right after him, who didn't play it

699
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: down Dida down got hurt this time of year, I think, yeah,

700
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: and and remember his mini camps, and again, this was

701
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: an odd coaching staff, and that's being kind. He was

702
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: lining up at receiver in mini camps exclusively, which I

703
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: immediately thought, boys, that thumb, and then I thought, well,

704
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: running backs might not need as much. You don't get

705
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: as much done here as a running back as a

706
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: receiver in mini camp. There's no contact, no one's blocking

707
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: for you. My god, that's a unique way. And that's

708
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: before I realized urban Meyer's bonkers. But he's a receiving

709
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: back and explosive. He took her receiving back in the

710
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: first round, right, I mean, I'm sorry. That's the worst

711
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: pick than Najia Harris. Even if he had played, he

712
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't put up the same numbers as Najia Harris. And

713
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: to be frank, you and I like Javonte Williams, who

714
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: was drafted just outside the first round, much better than

715
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: a t N Williams. First, Harris was a conversation. Absolutely, right, right, absolutely,

716
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: I clearly had a t N third on that list easily, right. Um,

717
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: So I can't say again, even if even if Travis

718
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: at N had played last season, he might have had

719
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: seventy four catches maybe, I mean I'd starting to have

720
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: bet the under, but he would not have had seventeen

721
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: hundred total yards. No, no, no, no, not anything close

722
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: to that. No. Uh. Greg Newsom went at twenty six.

723
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a quality corner. He played

724
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: twelve games last year, thirty three tackles, no inner sceptions.

725
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: I think Ward's Batman and he's Robbin, you know. I

726
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: mean that's and that's fine. I mean, I'm sure they're

727
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: happy with that combination. Rashad Bateman then went at twenty seven.

728
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: He had forty six catches for five fifteen yards and

729
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: one touchdown in twelve games last year, but he was

730
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: injured early as well. Everything was late with him. All

731
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: signs point that they think he's there one. You know,

732
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: the people in the know seem to love them. But

733
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: what's I mean, what's his upside as a one in

734
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: that offense? But I don't think he's a dynamic one. Yeah,

735
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, if you were ranking the

736
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: number one receivers for each team in the league, he

737
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: would be certainly in the ball, very very low. I

738
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of look at him trying to he might have

739
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper Lake career at best. At best, at best,

740
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like a quality player, Um,

741
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: not a true one. When he's twenty seven years old

742
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: and you put his name up on your fantasy board,

743
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: no one goes, oh man, you know when it comes

744
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: time for his fifth year option, yeah, or even you

745
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: know for a second Contractor is Baltimore gonna beeah, we

746
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: gotta have him back? Like no, you're gonna look a

747
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: and go, yeah, we need to do better than that probably,

748
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: or he's a two yeah. Um. Frankly, I think we'll

749
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: know a lot more about him a year from now.

750
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: There's no I mean, I like the player, yeah, but

751
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know that the opportunities are going to

752
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: be great. And you know he's gonna start getting number

753
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: You know, last year when he played Hollywood, Brown got

754
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: he got number one type attention. He rolled the safety

755
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: to his side Andrews to worry about it. Well, now

756
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna get more of the attention he's gonna get,

757
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: especially if he has a couple of good games early

758
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: in the season, and you know, Uh, twenty eight, New

759
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: Orleans took Peyton Turner out of Houston. He had nine

760
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: tackles in one sack in five games last year. Yeah,

761
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: so he was another injured one though. That was an

762
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: odd pick for them. They love those huge defensive ends. Yeah,

763
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: you can't say it's a good pick. No, he can't

764
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: say it's a good pick. It's twenty nine. Uh, it's

765
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: not like in a Jabo situation or well, this year

766
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: he's ready to explode, you know, like that was kind

767
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: of a reach. So he was never gonna be a one. Yeah.

768
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: Any yeah, right now, healthy Peyton Turner or I'm sorry.

769
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes went to Green Bay at twenty nine, played

770
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: in sixteen games, forty three tackles, one interception. People probably

771
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about Stokes, but I would take

772
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: him over Newsom. I think he's a really good young player.

773
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't love him coming out of Georgia,

774
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: but he had a better season I thought. But he's

775
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: the two with Georgy Alexander there right yeah. Uh. At thirty,

776
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo took Gregory Rousseau. Uh played in all seventeen games,

777
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: forty two tackles, four sacks last year. I'm not knocking Rousseau,

778
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: and I think it's a fine pick. But they've used

779
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of early picks the last two years on

780
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: edge guys. Because their next pick was an edge guy,

781
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: and I think they used the second round pick the

782
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: year before on an edge And then I think they

783
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: finally said this isn't really working. Let's go sign von Miller.

784
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: Let just a Miller. How about we just signed with

785
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: von Miller. We're trying to win this thing, and staid

786
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: developing him, and I think that was approach this year. Uh.

787
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Then Baltimore thirty one took away with their second first

788
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: round draft. He's a work in progress, but there's a

789
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: lot of talents. Fifteen games, twenty three tackles, five sacks,

790
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: and we're counting on him to be there. I think

791
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: he's their their fastball. Yeah, even there, their go to pitch.

792
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll ever be that, but he

793
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: might hit, you know, and he's there's a lot of

794
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: ability there. And then at thirty two, Tampa took Joe

795
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: try On Shoyenka uh In in seventeen games, twenty one tackles,

796
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: four sacks, was a part time player for them. I

797
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of optimism in him to be, Yeah,

798
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul's replacement. That's why they drafted him, knowing that

799
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't bring back Barrett and Pierre Paul. So his

800
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: time is more now. But he flashed. He's a good player.

801
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: But overall it was a good first round. I can't

802
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: say that Najia Harris was even close to being the

803
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: worst pick, and I think he's closer to being the

804
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: best pick than the workst pick. I would agree with him,

805
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: and I don't think. I think he's somewhere in the

806
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: middle of the road. People get caught Here's the problem

807
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I have with the analytics crowd. They get caught up

808
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: strictly in the analytics. Right, you can't just be about analytics.

809
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: You have to factor both things in need factors in

810
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Like if if the Steelers didn't draft Nagy Harris, it

811
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: picked twenty four last year, who the hell was carrying

812
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: a football for him? Right? I mean not only that,

813
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: but I think last year, at this time or last

814
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: year's draft they had today in mind postmen is what

815
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking like, who would you rather have that group

816
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: after them? Maybe Eric Stokes or Greg Newsome. Yeah, okay,

817
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: I could. I could get on board with that. But Bateman, Turner, Rousseau,

818
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: oh way, Shoyenka even going to the top of the

819
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: second round, Tyson Campbell, No, I mean he's nothing the

820
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: right home. But Elijah Moore. We're gonna take another tiny

821
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: receiver like I like the player, I mean Javante. But

822
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: then you're talking about another running back. I mean there's

823
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: an argument right now, would you trade naj for Javante?

824
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: I could make an argument for both. To be honest

825
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: with you, there were times last year where I looked

826
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: at and said, he's my number one back. You know, frankly,

827
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: if we don't have this advantage it if there was

828
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: an offer on the table to move from twenty four,

829
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: that's what was picked right twenty four down, and if

830
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: someone offered the Steelers, you know, hey, we'll give you

831
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: a future of second if you go to thirty three.

832
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: I would have been just as happy. That would have

833
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: been better, you know, because you've got something else. But

834
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: they didn't know that, you know, so uh uh. Just

835
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: because Javante is good doesn't mean Harris is bad, right,

836
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right? No, I agree completely.

837
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: We gotta take another break up against it here. Uh,

838
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: he is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolly. You're

839
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
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00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,839
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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
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843
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,960
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Speaker 1: Steelers Oki as essus here at the u p mc

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Speaker 1: room Sports Complex and the man, I just want to

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Speaker 1: run over a real quick yer um the list of

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Speaker 1: of receivers last year and you guys in the rookie

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Speaker 1: draft last you've got more passes and there oh, I

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Speaker 1: bet they've got many a right, he was Waddle with

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Speaker 1: one hundred four and you talk about short average of

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Speaker 1: target at him Monross st Brown, same thing. He had

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Speaker 1: ninety catches for but nine twelve yards. He really stepped

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Speaker 1: up at the end of the year. He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: I think, uh Jamar Chase at eighty one catches and

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Speaker 1: then you had na Gie Harris with seventy four the

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Speaker 1: fourth ki more than Pitts too, more than Pitts Pits

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Speaker 1: at sixty eight. Yeah. Wow, So he had his twelve

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Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards were more than two hundred yards more

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Speaker 1: than the next closest running rusher in last year's draft.

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Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell actually finished with nine sixty three more than

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Speaker 1: Juwante Williams. That makes sense, and he was the true

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Speaker 1: number one. And then it dropped off to Michael Carter

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Speaker 1: Hubbard at six wells auber Chubby, I call him. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't bet every dollar own, then I'm right. And then

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Speaker 1: Ramander Stevenson had six oh six. Stevenson is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite backs NA class too. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: good player too. But Ian and then nobody else had

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Speaker 1: more than than five hundred. Like so total yards, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's nobody closed. Nobody close. Yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: well total yards. Actually Chases, I guess one of the

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Speaker 1: receivers Chase was. Chase was close, but he didn't come.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty one rushing yards, so he had fourteen

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Nazi Harris had almost seventeen hundred. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about this earlier. I mean Nase's average depth of

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Speaker 1: target as a receiver I think will increase. I mean

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Speaker 1: it might have been negative last year. It might have

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Speaker 1: been negative a lot and behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and they're not even screened. They were just dump off.

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Speaker 1: Do you think his reception total will change much? I

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Speaker 1: don't think it changes a great A lot of catch.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of catches. I mean that's hard to

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Speaker 1: do for a back, no matter what your age is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, um, you think he'll be right

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Speaker 1: around there again, I would guess right around that number.

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Speaker 1: It works, Yeah, I think the degree of difficulty be harder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like I think his rushing total. I think it's

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Speaker 1: his rushing attempts go down a little bit, but the

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Speaker 1: total yards is that or or even a little bit

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Speaker 1: better than what he happens. I think he will average

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Speaker 1: more rushing yards attempt. Yeah. Yeah, I think he'll have

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Speaker 1: it sold by quality, not quantity. I think he'll have

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Speaker 1: more quality touches. I mean, there was a lot that

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Speaker 1: he's just running into the back of his lineman against

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Speaker 1: stack boxes or you know, hey, third and eight. A

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Speaker 1: three yard catch where you get tackled, you know, have

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Speaker 1: no chance to get your feet moving isn't a successful

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Speaker 1: play even though, you know, I mean it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: football siders does that stuff by uh down in distance?

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Speaker 1: What's a successful play? What is And just because you

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Speaker 1: caught the ball and picked up four or five yards

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's a successful play. I expect them that

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Speaker 1: more successful plays this year. And I think the other

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Speaker 1: thing that they're overlooking is availability. Oh yeah, right, like

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Speaker 1: taking the ball game after game after game and not

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Speaker 1: missing time. That that that's a skill. That's a trait

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Speaker 1: for a running back like you could talk about and

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Speaker 1: and there was always right away the argument, well, Elijah

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Speaker 1: Mitchell had almost as many rushing yards as not you Harris, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but he only lasted eleven games. He was constantly nicked up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but first off, that's a Niner trait is we just

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Speaker 1: want really fast guys are running into things really fast,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's great, but you don't last very

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Speaker 1: long doing that. Um but great Coasell talks about this

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Speaker 1: a ton. I mean, one of his big things he

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Speaker 1: looks for in running backs, which to me is the

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Speaker 1: best argument for Emmett Smith being the best running back

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Speaker 1: balls all time, which I don't think he is, but

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Speaker 1: he's out there no matter what and I can count

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Speaker 1: on him and in the fourth quarter with his shoulder dislocated,

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Speaker 1: you can still give it to Himtt and he's a

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Speaker 1: close out the game. You know, Like that's a trait

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Speaker 1: and and I very much believe Nagy has it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree as well. So you know, to me

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Speaker 1: that that's worth that first round pick. Again, I know

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Speaker 1: the analytics say you don't do it. I completely disagree

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Speaker 1: with that. You you have to factor in the human

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Speaker 1: equation into analytics. The other factor for this team is

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Speaker 1: I think I'm very cool with a team like the

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Speaker 1: Jets who traded up for Breet Hall to quote, overspend

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Speaker 1: on a running back in the draft. If it's for

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, and that pick was for this new quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't right. There's I think there's a great sense

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Speaker 1: of security for Trabisky or Pickett that they will gather

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Speaker 1: with that guy behind him, as opposed to Benny Snell

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Speaker 1: or Eli Mitchell or whoever it would have been. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like that safety blanket to me

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Speaker 1: has a lot of value. Why the Jets did that

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Speaker 1: for Breefe Hall? You know, let's make exact life as

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Speaker 1: easy as possible. No, I I agree completely, So I

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Speaker 1: can I disagree with the with the theory that Naji

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Speaker 1: Harris was the worst first round draft. I think that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little laughable of a statement. That's

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Speaker 1: a click bait thing. Yeah, I think that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: it is. Guess what. We gotta take another break here

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Speaker 1: because we talked so long on the suburb two segments

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Speaker 1: that we ran right up against the second or for

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Speaker 1: our or one that's gonna do it four hour one

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Speaker 1: of this special edition of the Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back with our two right after this.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lilly. Talk to

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Speaker 1: you in just a moment.