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Speaker 1: Week thirteen upset alerts on the show tonight got a

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Speaker 1: the team that has not won a game in Gainesville

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Speaker 1: it relates to Miami right now, Well, what if we

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Speaker 1: get that kind of log jam? Notre Name's not invincible,

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Speaker 1: like they're not immune from being affected by that either.

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Speaker 1: I want to let you know something. We have got

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Speaker 1: What happens at the live event stays at the live event.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a blood oath at the door. I'm told

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Speaker 1: it'll be safe, it'll be clean. Just a little quick fingerprick.

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Speaker 1: And no, that's not happening. At least I don't know

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. All right, let's continue, um, look

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Speaker 1: the Lane Kiffin latest. Hank from Memphis hit me up.

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Speaker 1: He said, why haven't we heard anything from you about

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Speaker 1: the ole Miss ultimatum they supposedly gave to Lane Kiffin. Well,

453
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Speaker 1: because he's not the only one in that position. That's

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Speaker 1: the reason I haven't spoken about that. And what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. What Hank's referring to there is there is

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Speaker 1: widely held belief that ole Miss is going to demand

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Speaker 1: an answer from Lane Kiffin before the Egg Bowl next

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Speaker 1: week about his future. For what it's worth, I believe

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Speaker 1: that's accurate. Now, whether or not Keith Carter has kicked

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Speaker 1: Lane's door open in the middle of the afternoon and

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Speaker 1: said you got forty eight hours, or he's slapped a

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Speaker 1: piece of paper down on his desk that says ultimatum

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Speaker 1: at the top, is a matter of semantics. The general

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Speaker 1: principle here is, yes, I believe ole Miss will push

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Speaker 1: hard to know, just as I would if I were them,

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Speaker 1: what Lane's intentions are before they get caught with their

467
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Speaker 1: pants down and then they're scrambling. Call that whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: The reason I haven't talked about it on the show,

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Speaker 1: it's because it's not just a Laane Kiffin thing. It's

470
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Speaker 1: just the whitest hot spotlight is on Lane. But if

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Speaker 1: you're going to talk about the idea that there's a

472
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Speaker 1: coaching search surrounding a guy whose team could be headed

473
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, I'm going to counter with this, why

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Speaker 1: are you not asking that about Brent Key? Why are

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Speaker 1: you not asking that about Clark Lee? Why are you

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Speaker 1: not asking that about John Sumraw. Are all those guys

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Speaker 1: not in a position where their team may make the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Are all of those guys not in a position where

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Speaker 1: their name's being thrown around for open jobs. Are all

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Speaker 1: of those guys not potentially in a spot where they

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Speaker 1: may need to make a decision after the finish of

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Speaker 1: the regular season, By my estimation, they all are. So

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Speaker 1: it's not just a lame thing. People have just chosen

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Speaker 1: to talk about it with Lane Kiffin. But if I

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Speaker 1: were Hank, if I were to do the segment on Lane,

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Speaker 1: I'd have to do one on the other three there.

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Speaker 1: I will say this again, I do expect that to

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Speaker 1: be the case. I do expect if it hasn't happened already.

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Speaker 1: Again semantics here, I do expect Keith Carter and the

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Speaker 1: administration they're at all Miss to push and demand something

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Speaker 1: from Lane Kiffen. Now, whether Kiffen gives them what they

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Speaker 1: want in the form of an answer is up to him,

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Speaker 1: and then it's up to them what their contingency plans

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Speaker 1: are if he doesn't give them one. But man, just

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Speaker 1: consider the landscape next week. It's Thursday night right now.

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Speaker 1: Consider the landscape next week. It's Thanksgiving week. It's rivalry week.

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Speaker 1: It's the last week of the regular season. So you'll

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Speaker 1: have what you're normally focused on, which is your family

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Speaker 1: and travel and playing your rival one or two days

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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving. That week's always a mess for college football fans.

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Speaker 1: That week's always a conflict of focus. It's a good

502
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Speaker 1: name for a tour next year. But then on top

503
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Speaker 1: of all that, just heap on pound after pound of

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Speaker 1: ole Miss speculation. And then if Lane stays, that's a

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Speaker 1: huge deal for ole Miss, and then Florida and or

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Speaker 1: LSU have to go with Plan B, or maybe he

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Speaker 1: takes one of those jobs, at which point we're finding

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Speaker 1: out what ole Miss is gonna do, and we're finding

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Speaker 1: out what the school that didn't get Lane is gonna do.

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Speaker 1: That could have a ripple effect with maybe Missouri because

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Speaker 1: Drink is up for a lot of these jobs. John

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Speaker 1: Summral at Tulane maybe going to a conference title game

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Speaker 1: that week, which is added drama because that's not something

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Speaker 1: Drink or Lane or any of the other guys are

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Speaker 1: really dealing with right now. What's he gonna do? How

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Speaker 1: does that affect the Auburn search. Penn State feels like

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Speaker 1: it's on the moon because a lot of these candidates

518
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Speaker 1: aren't involved there, but maybe coach Chesney there, James Madison is.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got Arkansas and I got no clue

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Speaker 1: what Arkansas is going to do, nor do they right now.

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Speaker 1: They've interviewed half the country. I think I've been interviewed

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Speaker 1: for the Arkansas job twice. I say that sarcastically, but

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Speaker 1: like I really do hope Arkansas gets it figured out.

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Speaker 1: All that's going to be happening next week slash weekend

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Speaker 1: that Sunday could be insane, And really, if you think

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Speaker 1: about it, some of these teams play on Friday, so

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Speaker 1: it won't even have to wait until then. It could

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Speaker 1: be in motion on Saturday. You could have breaking news

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Speaker 1: on Three's Pete Nakos could be breaking news on Saturday

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Speaker 1: as games are going on. If it sounds unprecedented, it's

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Speaker 1: because it is. But if you feel like focusing on football,

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Speaker 1: thank you. And if you feel like attending football games,

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Speaker 1: All right. One of our friends of the program hit

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Speaker 1: us up from Las Vegas, and he said, when are

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Speaker 1: we gonna admit moving around ranked wins as illogical and

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Speaker 1: inconsistent for college football? And he gave a bunch of examples,

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Speaker 1: and really the message is when are we gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the playoff committee's inconsistency? And the answer is every

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Speaker 1: single day for the rest of the year on this show.

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Speaker 1: I kid a little bit. It's a mess. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a mess. You know it's a mess. Anyone who

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Speaker 1: watched the playoff selection show Tuesday night. If you didn't

560
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Speaker 1: know before, now you know it's a mess. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a disaster of a show. We all produced

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Speaker 1: the in studio talent while they were at Madison Square

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Speaker 1: Garden that night, but those guys did great. Rhys Davis

564
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Speaker 1: asked the best questions I've heard asked. The answers he

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Speaker 1: got left a lot to be desired. So, like, for example,

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about there now is there are people

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Speaker 1: out there who are trying to conveniently give credit to

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Speaker 1: Oregon for beating Penn State because Penn State was a

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Speaker 1: different team than they are now, which I agree with,

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Speaker 1: But then they're not giving credit to other teams. So

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Speaker 1: it's almost like they've got the rankings the way they

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Speaker 1: want them, and then after their set then they like

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Speaker 1: reverse engineer logic conveniently and you know, like selectively, and

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Speaker 1: if it looks that way, it's cause that's how it is.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to rehash all this. It's a

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Speaker 1: few days old now. There were so many terrible examples.

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Speaker 1: There was so much inconsistency and misapplied logic presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunter Yurchik the other night, who is the Playoff Committee chair,

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Speaker 1: new Playoff Committee Chair, that we could do a whole

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Speaker 1: show on it. I was blown away. It's the worst

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen playoff rankings explained, to the point where

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Speaker 1: I've never really talked about this on the show before,

583
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Speaker 1: but I think they should just admit the dirty secret

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Speaker 1: and lean into it. The dirty secret is, and lean in.

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Speaker 1: I know this is going to shock a lot of you.

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Speaker 1: Those people don't watch all the college football games, nor

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Speaker 1: do they really need to, because they're not ranking the teams.

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Speaker 1: What's happened every year on the committee. What's happened is

589
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Speaker 1: there's been theater and there's been presentation and performance. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna gather in Grapevine, Texas, and we're

591
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Speaker 1: gonna lock all these people in a room, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you that they're deliberating like jurors, and

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Speaker 1: then they're gonna come out with their verdict in the

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Speaker 1: form of playoff rankings every Tuesday night, and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna pretend like we're not getting them into our hand

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Speaker 1: until right when we flash them on the screen. And

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of that's bs. What really happens is there's

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Speaker 1: a preset computer model that pumps those teams out, and

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Speaker 1: it's spits it out in ninety eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: works done. And at that point, if they want to

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Speaker 1: manually adjust here or there, that's the extent of the

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Speaker 1: involvement with that committee. That's really what's happening here. The

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Speaker 1: problem is, for quite a while they did an okay

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Speaker 1: job of pretending so the theater of the mind I

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Speaker 1: was willing to buy into. It's kind of known behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes how this really works. But now that they

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Speaker 1: suck so bad at pretending they're the ones ranking the teams,

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Speaker 1: they need to just admit what's really going on. That's

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Speaker 1: what they really need to do, because really, if I

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Speaker 1: was wrong about that, their rankings would look a whole

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Speaker 1: lot different than the old BCS rankings, but we still

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Speaker 1: have access to the BCS formula. So every week there

613
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Speaker 1: are several Twitter accounts. If you don't believe me, go

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Speaker 1: find them that spit out what the BCS rankings would

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Speaker 1: have been. Magically, the Playoff Committee rankings look strikingly similar

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Speaker 1: to the BCS rankings. It's cause they didn't tinker with

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Speaker 1: the formula all that much. They just built this this

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Speaker 1: new presentation around it. They built this new illusion around it,

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Speaker 1: and they built a committee. And all the committee does

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Speaker 1: is go down there and eat crackers behind a closed door,

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Speaker 1: have them probably take a nap, and then they show

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Speaker 1: up Tuesday and they're probably wearing shorts from the waist

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Speaker 1: and they pretend like they're ranked the teams and they

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Speaker 1: watched all the games. Really, what they did is they

626
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Speaker 1: got some rankings spat out in their lap, and then

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Speaker 1: they kind of have to explain it in a way

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Speaker 1: that makes it look like they're their rankings. That only

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Speaker 1: works if you're good at explaining it. But if you

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Speaker 1: suck at explaining it, you need to just drop the

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Speaker 1: act and you need to say this is what the

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Speaker 1: computer gave us. I'd take that at this point over

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Speaker 1: what we heard with like the Notre Dame Bama argument

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Speaker 1: the other night. I mean, I got no problem. If

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Speaker 1: the computer spits out Notre Dame over Alabama, which as

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Speaker 1: far as I could tell, it would have, that's not

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Speaker 1: the problem. Problem is ninety nine percent of the country

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Speaker 1: is unaware of your procedure, so they really do think

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Speaker 1: you're ranking these teams. And when you come out and

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Speaker 1: you start talking about stupidity like oh, how many rushing

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Speaker 1: yards does Alabama really have in some of these games?

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Speaker 1: Or you're talking about comparing losses when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame in Miami, even though one of Notre Dame's

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Speaker 1: losses is to Miami. And I'm looking at a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who frankly I respect, but they're making such

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Speaker 1: anecdotal arguments and me knowing full well, if I did

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Speaker 1: nothing but keep the resumes the same but switch the logos,

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Speaker 1: they'd make the exact opposite argument. I can't stand that.

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Speaker 1: And I was looking at when they were doing the

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Speaker 1: Alabama Notre Dame comparison the other night, and they keep

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Speaker 1: bringing up the Florida State loss and I got no

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Speaker 1: problem with you bringing up the Florida State loss. It's

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Speaker 1: a terrible loss. But when I watch Bama go beat Georgia,

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Speaker 1: in my mind, that can't it doesn't cancel. It balances

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Speaker 1: out that Florida State loss. A great win should have

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Speaker 1: the same effect on your resume that a bad loss has.

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Speaker 1: But then that's not where Bama's resume is done. They

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Speaker 1: got to win over Vandy, and they gotta win over

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Speaker 1: Missouri on the road. Then they got to win over Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: so they've more than balanced that out. When they go

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Speaker 1: lose to Oklahoma at home, that's a competitive loss against

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen team, which brings them to the exact

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Speaker 1: same record Notre Dame has. And then I start getting

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Speaker 1: to remind you, guys, like, if you want to throw

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Speaker 1: stats out, these are the total defenses Notre Dame's faced.

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Speaker 1: One eleven, one three nine, two, one oh seven. Oh,

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Speaker 4: No, I don't have to hear my wife complain about

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We both got tired of that, so I rectified the situation.

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Speaker 4: So I Shane Biemer shouting out your show, Yeah about that,

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Speaker 4: and good for you, by the way, good for you

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Speaker 1: He shouted out Cole Kubrick earlier this week, which was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, No, never had my name mispronounced in forty

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Speaker 4: plus years on this earth. So yes, Is it really so?

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Speaker 1: All the coaching searches are happening right now. I've listened

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Speaker 1: to you guys on radio in Birmingham all week. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about it. We've been talking about it. Everybody's talking

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm just sitting here thinking to myself, all right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's as we're talking right now, it's pouring rain

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. So if I needed to get to

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Speaker 1: an umbrella, there's no scenario where I can get to

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Speaker 1: my car without getting wet. To me running a coaching

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Speaker 1: search right now? Is we know we're gonna get wet.

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Speaker 1: It's just how do we stay as dry as possible

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Speaker 1: getting to the car. There is no perfect way to

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Speaker 1: do this at this point. There is no perfect way

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Speaker 1: to run a coaching search at this point. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna run one now, if you're just gonna keep your guy,

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Speaker 1: like maybe FSU just keeps Mike Norvell and they avoid

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Speaker 1: all this. But if you're Florida, if you're Auburn, if

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Speaker 1: you're Penn State, the calendar is such that you got

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Speaker 1: to get your guy in place by that recruiting window,

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Speaker 1: by the portal window, or at least you got to

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Speaker 1: do it or die trying figuratively. So I got a

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Speaker 1: thought on this, like strategically, if I were running a

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Speaker 1: crisis management firm, or if I were an athletic director

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Speaker 1: were a candidate for these jobs, and now we're trying

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Speaker 1: to map it out, I've got what would be my approach.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's totally ethical, not on the up

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Speaker 1: and up per se, but it is technically legal. I've

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Speaker 1: consulted with the Pate State legal team, got a good

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Speaker 1: law school here, so it's technically legal. It's how I

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Speaker 1: would do it. But I want to tease you with that,

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Speaker 1: and I want to see how you would do it. First,

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Speaker 1: You've watched all these things play out. You've watched Auburn's

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Speaker 1: doing their business, how Florida and ls you were doing

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Speaker 1: their business. Penn State, Arkansas, who knows what. Arkansas may

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Speaker 1: not have a coach, They may not hire anyone at

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Speaker 1: this point. It may just kind of be open and

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Speaker 1: they may just like rotate guys in D line coach

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Speaker 1: coaches one week. But how would you run it? Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the best way to do it? Right now?

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the college football calendar and that you have

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Speaker 4: points in the calendar that you need to defeat or

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Speaker 4: get in front of or be finished with by I

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Speaker 4: would say even move that up more. That would be

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Speaker 4: my philosophy. Now here's the difference is. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that all needs to be done publicly, but I do

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Speaker 4: think that this is getted as done as fast as

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Speaker 4: humanly possible. That could be between you and I. It

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Speaker 4: could be handshake, it could be contract signed in a

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Speaker 4: drawer somewhere and we're not going to do anything with

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Speaker 4: it until it's time to go public. But we know

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Speaker 4: we've got it. Both sides have done more than just

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Speaker 4: verbally agree with a handshake, and we're moving forward, trying

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Speaker 4: to assemble staff behind the scenes, trying to retain our roster,

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Speaker 4: so on and so forth. Remember and so called Steve

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Speaker 4: Aston had like the DTA era, whereas like don't trust anybody.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to take that mantra as well.

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Speaker 4: Be it agents, be it media, be it people maybe

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Speaker 4: you've worked with prior that are at other schools. You

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Speaker 4: have to be extremely careful with the information that you're

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Speaker 4: allowing to get out and who knows what you're doing,

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Speaker 4: why you're doing it, and maybe what you're going to

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Speaker 4: go do next. We've seen some very successful coaching searches

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Speaker 4: be very quiet in the past. I think about Greg

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Speaker 4: Burn in Alabama a couple of years ago. I think

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Speaker 4: there were some of us that thought Caitlin de Boor

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Speaker 4: had a really good chance to get it. But nationally, Josh,

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Speaker 4: I don't remember that being the drum that everybody was

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Speaker 4: banging for two or three weeks and we were just waiting.

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Speaker 4: It was a matter of time until that thing got done.

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Speaker 4: It was swift, it was quick, It got finished in

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Speaker 4: a hurry. He went and got him, got it done,

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Speaker 4: couple of days before we even found out that it

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Speaker 4: to rush to complete it personally, if you have your

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Speaker 4: guy now, you should have never fired your coach if

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Speaker 4: you didn't have a guy, if you didn't at least

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Speaker 4: have a list of names in that drawer that you

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Speaker 4: knew you could attack and you knew you could get

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Speaker 4: to your place. If you can't do that, don't fire

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Speaker 4: your coach. Give it another year. Wait until you have

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Speaker 4: that list generated, maybe have the relationships in place to

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Speaker 4: able to go do it. Second would be you better

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Speaker 4: these that do not go according to your wish list

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Speaker 4: or your desires, or the fan base's desires or a

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Speaker 4: ready to go, because once you get past one, if

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Speaker 4: two and three aren't ready and then the calendar gets

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Speaker 4: you're in trouble. And you're gonna scramble, and you're gonna

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Speaker 4: and maybe the boosters don't want. So get it done

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Speaker 4: as fast as you can. Don't trust anybody, and have

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Speaker 1: To go do. I've had Greg Brn lay out the

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Speaker 1: entire process to me before. That's the most fun conversations

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you the story. But I think what Greg

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Speaker 1: where they looped thirty seven different boosters in and said, hey,

850
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: do I have your OK on this. I'm the athletic

851
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: director at Alabama, a legend just retired. I got to

852
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: get this thing done. It's a really weird part of

853
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: the calendar right now. And so like the way he

854
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: laid it out to me, is the way you avoid

855
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: a public coaching search is number one, don't loop in

856
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people. And number two, have the

857
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: search done before the search begins. So if you're a

858
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: sitting athletic director, I mean everyone always talks about having

859
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: the names in the top drawer. There's a difference in

860
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: having some names you'd be interested in, versus already having

861
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: vetted all those names, done the due diligence on all

862
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: those names, done your homework on all those names, where

863
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: you really are comfortable that Nick Saban retires today, I

864
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: can fly to Seattle tomorrow. I know I want him.

865
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: That's the difference. But then that was also a typical

866
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: and it's kind of apples to Orange just to what's

867
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: happening right now. So let me bounce my plan off

868
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: of you. See how you feel about it. You're not

869
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: going to feel great about it. I don't feel great

870
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: about it. But what I would do if my name

871
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: was floated early is I would do a version of

872
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: what Kurt Signetty did. I would do a version of

873
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: what Matt Ruhle did. I would let it be publicized

874
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: that I just signed a new deal with my school.

875
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: I just really wouldn't change the buyout parameters, or I

876
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: would change the buyout parameters site slightly, and I would

877
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: count on maybe if I was going to take the

878
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Penn State job. And I'm speaking strictly generically here, so

879
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: no one out there reading anything I'm saying about a

880
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: specific school. I would count on a place like Penn

881
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: State who maybe just fired their coach, having that coach

882
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: get a new job where the buyout that they're having

883
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: to pay is mitigated to begin with. Therefore, if they're

884
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: having to pay mine, it doesn't matter if my school

885
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: tacked on another three million, Like, they're not really going

886
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: to view that as some insurmountable hurdle, like with James Franklin,

887
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: just as an example, so people know what I'm talking about.

888
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Initially they were going to be on the hook for

889
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: like fifty million. Well now they're on the hook for

890
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: nine million. So if I'm over here coaching at PAYT

891
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: State and I signed a new deal and you're gonna

892
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: have to pay me three million more than you were

893
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: otherwise going to have to pay, nobody cares. But in

894
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: the aggregate, I take my name out of the headlines,

895
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: Like as soon as these get as soon as Kurt Signetti,

896
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: who I don't believe is going anywhere again to reiterate,

897
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: but it's as soon as Kurt Signetti signed that new deal.

898
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: His name was Whosh. It was gone from all the

899
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: coaching searches. So what I do is I just sign

900
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: a new deal. I wouldn't change the buyout structure, and

901
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 1: I would look my ad in the and I would say,

902
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: you and I both know if I have a good

903
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: relationship with it, my name's gonna be up for these jobs. Okay,

904
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to deal with that eventually, no

905
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: matter what. In the meantime, if you want to avoid

906
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: all this drama, let's just work this out in week

907
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: four or week five. Let's turn the noise all the

908
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: way down. Let's mute it. We'll still deal with it

909
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: when the time comes. Maybe I'm gonna leave, maybe I'm not.

910
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: But in the interim, at least we don't have to

911
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: deal with the noise that John Sommerl's dealing with, that

912
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's dealing with mostly by choice, that Eli Drinkwitz

913
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: is dealing with. Those guys are dealing with this stuff

914
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: every day because it's not going anywhere. You don't control

915
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: how big a mess the college football calendar is right now.

916
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: You can at least control whether you sign a new deal,

917
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: even it's cosmetic Okay, the public doesn't know it's cosmetic.

918
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Reporters don't know it's cosmetic, and I kind of need

919
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: it to stand up for a few months. I don't

920
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: need it to stand up for a few years, thoughts.

921
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 4: Well, I do. But you and I have talked about

922
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: candidates possible candidates even this cycle, and the phrase well

923
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: hasn't necessarily signed that extension yet, so that might not

924
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: be something that's pubble sized or that a lot of

925
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: people in the media discussed and talk about. We both

926
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: know it's very real. But I do like your idea

927
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: of getting things to just die down and kind of

928
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 4: go away and at least keep the noise from infiltrating

929
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: your building, which we know a lot of coaches are

930
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: having to deal with right now. And that headache not

931
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: something that's going to slow down. It's usually just going

932
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: to ramp up and speed up. So I like that

933
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: part of it. I don't think that that prevents everything

934
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: from either being a distraction or being thrown your way.

935
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: It's not going to keep everybody from coming at you.

936
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: But it's not what you want anyway, As you just

937
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 4: laid out, you just want the people that you don't

938
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: want to deal with or you don't want to have

939
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: to handle not to talk to you anymore, or not

940
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: to continue to bring your name up. So it's a

941
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: solid strategy. I could see it working out to an extent.

942
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it, but I don't feel

943
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: great about anything right now. To move on a little

944
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: bit here, but I.

945
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: Mean, you're also you're also lying to an entire university

946
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: and a fan base and not iron to a staff.

947
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: And sure, I'm telling you part of my strategy here.

948
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: So if you're lying, you're deviating from my strategy, and

949
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: shame on you. Whichever camera I'm looking at, shame on

950
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: you if you do. I would be straight up with

951
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: my athletic director. Now, if my ad balks at it,

952
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: then I say, okay, we're just gonna have a drama

953
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: filled second half of the season. Oh well, and that's

954
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: no worse than what it was going to be anyway.

955
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take proactive measures here. Help me,

956
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: help you? Is all you're saying.

957
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 4: You want the school to put it out. You're not

958
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: going to address it in the media and say, oh,

959
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here. We're building so much,

960
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm so excited. I like it here, and once we

961
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: get that new indoor facility, things are going to be great.

962
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: And if they could really just give me more of

963
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: staff pool, we'd be doing fine. And you know, the

964
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 4: nil budget's going to go up apparently, and then everything

965
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: will be great here. We'll love it here once All that.

966
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Hat I'm saying is someone's got to be the bad guy,

967
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: and I don't want it to be me. I don't

968
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: get well, that's a problem.

969
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: So here's one other part of it. Your athletic director

970
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: is going to agree with you to publicly go forward

971
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: facing with admitting that in the future he's failing, is

972
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: what you're asking him to do.

973
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: No, No, it doesn't have to look like that. It

974
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: has to if we do it right.

975
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: If he signs you to an extension, if he signs

976
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: you to an extension and goes public with it to

977
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: avoid all the mess, and then you jet four months later,

978
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 4: he failed because he led everyone believe that he had

979
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: you renewed and extended, and then you're gone.

980
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think if all the parameters of the

981
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: contract were met, that just means someone came in with

982
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: a bigger checkbook and bought me out of here. I

983
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: don't think it makes the ad look bad. It makes

984
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it look like he made every attempt possible to keep me.

985
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

986
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: Once the once the Ross Dellingers and the Pete.

987
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 5: Nacosis nakeye uh, Pete nakeye, and the pret McMurphy's get

988
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: a hold of that thing, and the Pete Thamils and

989
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: they see that the contract, the buyout, was it negotiated

990
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 5: or renegotiated or changed.

991
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: That ad is gonna He's gonna take a beating in the.

992
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: Public, I promise, not my problem at that point.

993
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: Once again, it's not your problem. But you're not lying anybody.

994
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: You're I said it was a strategy. I didn't say

995
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: there wouldn't be casualties. I just said I don't want

996
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 4: to be I don't want to be dead amongst you.

997
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: That was all I'm saying. All right, So there's a

998
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: lot of noise around a lot of guys. As you'll notice,

999
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: the noise is temporarily died down a little bit on

1000
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: Mike Norvell at Florida State. So I was going to

1001
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: ask you in this last two weeks, you can even

1002
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: take it into the postseason if you want to. But

1003
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 4: we got a couple of weeks left there's a ton

1004
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: still to sort out, so it's really foggy out here

1005
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 4: in the college football streets. What are some of the

1006
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 4: things that have your attention to most, because Florida State's

1007
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: one of them for me. Like Norvelle, with all the

1008
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: noise that was around him for a little while, seems

1009
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: to have died down for a second. However, they go

1010
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 4: to NC State and they go to Florida to finish

1011
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: the year. They are zero to three on the road

1012
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: this year, So if they drop one or both of

1013
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 4: those games, especially if they're ugly games, I think that

1014
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: noise could crank right back up. It could be that

1015
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: they've just kind of tamped down the talk right now and.

1016
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Still fully intend on making a move there. So like

1017
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: I haven't totally looked away from the Florida State situation.

1018
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: You know how the new gimmick and a lot of

1019
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: the athletic departments is to name the position room after

1020
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: said booster whatever it is. Like the Josh paid offensive

1021
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 4: line coach of the Cole Kubrick receivers coach Mike norvel

1022
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: is in the Sam Pittman room right now, and we

1023
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: all know it's gonna happen. It's a matter of when

1024
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: there's no resurrecting this, there's no saving it. So for me,

1025
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: that's not gonna grab a ton of my attention when

1026
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: I know this is gonna happen at some point, and

1027
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 4: it might be next year, just like with Sam Pittman

1028
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: and we were all surprised that he hung around for

1029
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: an extra year. I was okay with it, but the

1030
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: majority of the people that pay attention to college football thought,

1031
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: in the back of their mind, this is over. You

1032
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: could say, Billy Napier was in that room earlier this year,

1033
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 4: it was going to end. It was gonna be done.

1034
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: It's just we didn't know exactly when that was going

1035
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: to take place. One week, a month into the season,

1036
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: maybe even week three of next year. But it's gonna happen.

1037
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: It's gonna take place. So I'm not going to pay

1038
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: a ton of attention to that because I put Mike

1039
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: Norvel in that soon to be fired category with some

1040
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: of the coaches that we just referenced. I'm more hyper

1041
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 4: focused on what teams are going to be going into

1042
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: the postseason. I think there's a couple of teams that

1043
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 4: have facets of what they do that there's not a

1044
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: lot you can do about it, and there's not a

1045
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 4: lot that certain teams are going to be able to

1046
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: do to offset it. You look at Oklahoma what that

1047
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: front seven did to Alabama last week. Now you'll say

1048
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: turnovers and this, well, Oklahoma forced some of those turnovers,

1049
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: like they made life miserable for Alabama in ways in

1050
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: which they couldn't offset that. Who's built to be able

1051
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: to offset that in a playoff setting? And how many

1052
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: games maybe consecutively could Oklahoma see someone and that be

1053
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 4: that much of a problem that it's going to allow

1054
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: them to advance if special teams, the kicking game or

1055
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: the quarterback aren't doing their part to take over a

1056
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: football game. I think Julian's saying in Ohio State. Now,

1057
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people are going to say his receivers,

1058
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: but I'm going to tell you, Josh, you watch his

1059
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: last two games. There are four or five throws in

1060
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 4: each one of those games that are so wow worthy

1061
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Speaker 4: it's almost not believable. And then you see he's completing

1062
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: eighty percent of his passes on the year, and you

1063
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: say to yourself, that's how he's completing eighty percent of

1064
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: his passes because he's literally throwing the ball through defensive backs.

1065
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 4: That's the way it appears on film because the coverage

1066
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 4: is there, it's in phase, the hand is up, and

1067
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Jeremia Smith comes up with the

1068
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: football and you just think that didn't just happen, but

1069
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: it did happen. How much better can that get? Can

1070
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: that offense add other facets around it to essentially make

1071
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: them unstoppable? Maybe some facets of teams that I think

1072
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 4: are getting close to that. I look at George's offense

1073
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: right now and how multifaceted they are. Everything that they

1074
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: are asking Gun or Stockton to do, it's a little

1075
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: bit similar to say Alabama with all the different things

1076
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: he's being asked to do. He's under center, he's turning

1077
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 4: his back to the defense and play action. Hell, last week,

1078
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: he's faking full back belly and bootlegging around on fourth

1079
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: and one and throwing passes a shotgun zone. Read know

1080
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 4: that the edge line of scrimmage is going to crash

1081
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: the mess he's gonna get hit, has to get rid

1082
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: of the football. Well, his touch down the field has

1083
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: improved immense He's literally doing everything, and then you add

1084
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: that sort of just gamer aspect to what he does.

1085
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: How much better is the offensive line some of the

1086
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: other skill guys going to be around him moving forward

1087
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: to where they might just have so much that no

1088
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: defense can really manage that. I look at a Marcel

1089
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 4: Reed to Texas A and M. He needs to continue

1090
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: to grow as a passer. I think that offensive line

1091
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: at times is dominant. You have wide receivers at times

1092
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: are dominant. But you have four drops in the first

1093
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 4: half last week, two of those in the end zone.

1094
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: So can Marcia and he had a bad interception going

1095
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 4: in for a score that I know he would love

1096
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 4: to have back. How much can he grow over the

1097
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 4: next few weeks to where maybe that offense is consistently

1098
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: on par with what that defense has been and maybe

1099
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: both sides of the football become that for Texas A

1100
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: and M in the postseason the balance of Indiana. Does

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00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: that just continue? And maybe all of this is for

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00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 4: nothing because the team in the last game of the

1103
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: season completely wets the bed and then does what Ohio

1104
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: State did last year and goes on and makes a

1105
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 4: run the playoff and wins the national title.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know a team that can't do that, but

1107
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: can ruin someone else's season is Auburn, So you and

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00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: I won't talk on the show at least again into

1109
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl. But I'm really interested in that too.

1110
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: Number One, cause it's a rivalry game and that's the

1111
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: best thing about college football, So that stands alone. Number Two,

1112
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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can ignore the playoff implications, SEC

1113
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: championship implications. Also, you've got an ongoing coaching search at Auburn,

1114
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: which DJ Durkin has his name in the mix for.

1115
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: And you know, it wouldn't be the total craziest thing

1116
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: in the history of college football for you to shake

1117
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: your snow globe and tell me, hey, Auburn's gonna win

1118
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: that game thirty to twenty and riding a wave of momentum,

1119
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: Durkin's gonna have like tons of fans support he ends

1120
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: up getting the job. It wouldn't be the craziest thing

1121
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I've ever seen happen. So you got that if that

1122
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: goes Auburn's way. Kickoff temperature in the upper thirties according

1123
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: to James Spam kickoff temperature upper thirties. So if that

1124
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: goes that way, then you've all also got on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the seesaw. How are they talking about

1126
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Kaitlin the next Monday, and that's just when you're on radio.

1127
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: They won't wait until the next Monday. But imagine that conversation.

1128
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: Imagine BAMA missing the playoffs two years in a row. So, yeah,

1129
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: that swing based on the outcome of that game, because

1130
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: then you're also opening a playoff spot up for someone else.

1131
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: You're opening a spot in the SEC Championship game up

1132
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: for someone else.

1133
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1134
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: Tons of dominoes from the Iron Bowl.

1135
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: And it's good. Here's i thing. The big roll of

1136
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: the dice in that game is it doesn't appear as

1137
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: ow Ashton Daniels is going to play quarterback this week

1138
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: at Alburn. Okay, it's been reported today Duce Knight's going

1139
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: to start. This is actually something Hugh Freeze told us

1140
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 4: when we had that game.

1141
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Going into the.

1142
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 4: Missouri game, he said, we're trying to figure out how

1143
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 4: to red shirt Ashton Daniels. That was not something anybody

1144
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: was really talking about at that point in time, so

1145
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: we were a little caught off guard. He said, maybe

1146
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: you make Mercer aduce night game, but I have to

1147
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 4: not play him in this one. He doesn't and then

1148
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: obviously we saw what happened against Kentucky a few weeks later,

1149
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: and he's good to go. Not playing in this game

1150
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 4: against Mercer, Well, what does that give them some extra

1151
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 4: time to prepare? Is he healthier than he was against Vanderbilt

1152
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. Are you able to implement

1153
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: some things with him that you haven't put on films

1154
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: just yet that could catch that Alabama defense off guard,

1155
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: catch him by surprise. You could also look at it

1156
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 4: from the standpoint of he's gonna have a week off

1157
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: of not playing in a game, hasn't played in a

1158
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 4: ton of games this year anyway? Is that advantage Alabama

1159
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: as to how he reacts once he's in that game?

1160
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: In that situation, you just don't know which direction that's

1161
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: gonna go. That one's gonna come down to. Can the

1162
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: Auburn defense make the Alabama offense uncomfortable like only a

1163
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: few teams have done this year? Specifically the front make

1164
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: that offensive line for Alabama wrong, which they have been

1165
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: a few times this year, not consistently, but when they have,

1166
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: teams have been able to force negative plays and bad things.

1167
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of intrigue there. You

1168
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: can say that place is haunted. I don't agree with that.

1169
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: I think that's disrespectful to the home crowd and the

1170
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: fans that are there, because they make that environment what

1171
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: it is. It's not like you're burying eagle skeletons under

1172
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: that thing. It's just a tough place to go play

1173
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: because the fans are passionate, get into it, and they

1174
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: stay loud, and people know they're going to go in

1175
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 4: there and potentially not play well. So I think it's

1176
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of fun. I'm excited about that one.

1177
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of intrigue in a lot

1178
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: of different ways.

1179
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Speaker 1: One more thing that I wanted to point out is

1180
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: if we rewind back to July, the perception of the

1181
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: acc was it was either Clemson or Miami. If not Clemson,

1182
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: then Miami, And then remember the talk, there's this huge

1183
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: drop off and any kind of dark horse picture you're

1184
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to paint, whether it be Georgia Tech, who I'll

1185
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: get to in a second, or SMU or any of

1186
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: the others, there was this seemingly like insurmountable preseason odds

1187
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: hurdle that they were going to have to clear. And then,

1188
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: especially when you looked at Miami's schedule. You were like,

1189
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, if they lose, it's gonna be Florida, it's

1190
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna be Notre Dame. How does Miami miss the ACC

1191
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: championship game? Well, we found away from Miami to miss

1192
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: the ACC championship game. Clemson hasn't been in the picture

1193
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: for weeks, and Georgia Tech's the favorite to win the

1194
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: conference right now. Georgia Tech could very well lock down

1195
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: a playoff spot right now. And I don't think because

1196
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: again we've gotten into the fog of the season, I

1197
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: don't really think people are appreciating it. And they may

1198
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: not be appreciating it because Clemson fell off. So like

1199
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: now that Clemson fell off, now that Miami fell off,

1200
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well they're going to accomplish that. But

1201
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: it's just the least of the bad over there in

1202
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: the ACC. And my viewpoint on it is, I don't

1203
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: care what the circumstances are. If Clemson wins a watered

1204
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: down league, if Miami wins a water down league, that's

1205
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: one thing. If Georgia Tech's winning it, that's something that

1206
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: people would have really laughed you out of certain buildings

1207
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: in July for. And here they are. They hadn't won anything,

1208
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: they still got pitt this weekend. They Georgia doesn't matter,

1209
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: but they got to win the game. But just they're

1210
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: in position this late, and the way they've done it,

1211
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: running so much of that offensive workload disproportionately through one

1212
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: player has been pretty fun to watch.

1213
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Speaker 4: To me, it is and Brick He's done an amazing job,

1214
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: and it makes me actually go forward an extra week

1215
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: and think about the emphasis not just on the Iron Bowl,

1216
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 4: but a couple of these other rivalry games. We're going

1217
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: to be talking about Georgia Georgia Tech, the kind of

1218
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 4: implications that could be on that game, Texas Texas A

1219
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: and M what's on the line there. I think we

1220
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: know it's a little more one sided, but the Egg

1221
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: Bowl is going to have college football playoff implications, even

1222
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 4: if it just comes down to seating in home games

1223
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: homefield advantage, some of these rivalry games are going to

1224
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: have massive implications in front of them that one team's

1225
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 4: going to be either looking to ruin or both teams

1226
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: are going to be playing for. I think by the

1227
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: time we get to it, Josh, we may look down

1228
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Speaker 4: Rivalry weekend and say, could we make you an argument

1229
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 4: that this is the most important rivalry weekend we've had

1230
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: because we can go back and remember at one versus

1231
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: three Ohio State Michigan, or even a one to two

1232
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: Ohio State Michigan. We can remember two top teams in

1233
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: the Iron Bowl. We can remember Florida Florida State playing

1234
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 4: and Peter Bowlwer and those guys just ruining Danny worfol

1235
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: and then them coming back in the Sugar Bowl playing

1236
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: them again and I kill you and right Anthony and

1237
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: those guys just going crazy win a national championship. But

1238
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: that was for two teams, usually maybe four teams. Usually.

1239
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: Now we have a lot of other teams. They're gonna

1240
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 4: have opportunities to either make their hey, have their season ruined,

1241
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: jockey for position in this playoff. I just think when

1242
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: we get there, if we sit down and take a

1243
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: big look at it from a broad distance, might this

1244
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,959
Speaker 4: be the most important rivalry weekend that we've had.

1245
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: Consider how far down the list you would get before

1246
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: you even mentioned Oregon Washington, and just how big that

1247
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: game alone could be. Next week could be all right,

1248
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: plug cube, show tell people where to find it. Pretend

1249
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: like up until Shane Beemer's press conference earlier this weekend.

1250
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: They weren't even aware of what you did outside of

1251
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: your sideline duty Saturday.

1252
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: Now most people might think it's just a Twitter takeaway

1253
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: on Sunday nights, which comes out so late. Sometimes it

1254
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 4: basically Monday morning. We take all the sec games, we

1255
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: watch the film, we tell you what you see. They

1256
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: usually gets out on Mondays, sometimes based on some travel

1257
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 4: movement with My Show and Charlotte Read and React with

1258
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 4: Roman Harper. It comes out on Tuesdays now, but we're

1259
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 4: still trying to get it out on Mondays. All I

1260
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 4: gotta do is startch Cube show YouTube, wherever you get

1261
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: your podcasts, subscribe. I think we're like nineteen six. Josh

1262
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: said we would never get to twenty so what more

1263
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: would you want? As an early Christmas wish? For all

1264
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: the thanks to be given and Josh Pate be proven wrong.

1265
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite memories is famously saying

1266
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: this channel will never get to twenty thousand. That direct

1267
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: quote out of someone's mouth that much, we can confirm.

1268
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 4: Now you're the one that wants athletic directors to do all.

1269
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: Your dirty work for you, so absolutely I do. Won't

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Speaker 1: apologize for it either, all right, I'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Fair, Hey, if I don't you Jesse. Everybody have a happy.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving same to you and yours. All Right, it feels

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Speaker 1: like we're Thanksgiving week right now. We're still a week await.

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Speaker 1: We just won't talk to Cube again until then. That's

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Speaker 1: our show. So Friday Night lines will emanate from the

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Speaker 1: It'll probably be a little bit later, not Pacific late.

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Speaker 1: producer Jesse. I'm Josh Pate. Take care, enjoy the games

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