Speaker 1: Look how it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a Jerry Chapstick and I love films. As
Speaker 1: Frederick Nietzsche once said, it is hard enough to remember
Speaker 1: my opinions without also remembering my reasons for them. I
Speaker 1: love Tequila Sunrise when I saw it, but I can't remember,
Speaker 1: for the life of me why I reckon. I can
Speaker 1: answer that one, Frederick, I reckon. It's because it had
Speaker 1: Michelle Feiffer in it. There you go, another mystery solved.
Speaker 1: Here at Films to be Buried With. Every week I
Speaker 1: invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died.
Speaker 1: Then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that mean the most of them. Previous guests include
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil and even Led Damballs.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the brilliant writer, actor and best
Speaker 1: looking comic on the UK stand up circuit, mister Rich Wilson.
Speaker 1: Head over to the Paton at patreon dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash Breck Goldsteam, where you get an extra twenty minutes
Speaker 1: of chat with Rich, where we go deep, we talk
Speaker 1: about secrets. There's a beginning, there's an ending. You get
Speaker 1: video uncut ad free, you get the lot. Check it
Speaker 1: out over at patreon dot com. Forward Slashbreck GOLs, Team
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Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. You can watch it all in one
Speaker 1: go Superwob Soulmates. They're available on Amazon Prime in lots
Speaker 1: of countries. So go and watch him if you have
Speaker 1: the time and enjoy your lives. Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: so Rich Wilson A Rich Wilson is an excellent stand
Speaker 1: up comedian. He's a lovely, lovely man. I've done loads
Speaker 1: of gigs with him. I've been, I've done, I've been,
Speaker 1: I've been all over the place with him. He's wonderful.
Speaker 1: He's also an actor, he's a rising he's got his
Speaker 1: own podcast. It was so great to catch up with him,
Speaker 1: and I think you're really gonna love it. So that
Speaker 1: is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy
Speaker 1: episode one hundred and eighty four of Films to be
Speaker 1: Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With.
Speaker 1: It is I Brett Goldstein and I am joined today
Speaker 1: by a hero, an actor, a writer, a podcaster, one
Speaker 1: of the finest stand ups of his generation, a lovely boy,
Speaker 1: a podcaster and let's face it, the best looking man
Speaker 1: on the U play comedy circuit. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: It's the wonderful, it's the brilliant. It's mister rich Willson. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Rich Wilson. Hello's so lovely to see you. Lovely to
Speaker 1: see you. And no, it's funny. When I was listening,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, you listen to a few to
Speaker 1: get a feel for it, as you know you said
Speaker 1: in the thing, have a listen. I've listened to some before,
Speaker 1: and the bit where you're introducing, I was like, what
Speaker 1: have I got? Lovely hair, good shoe, really good hair.
Speaker 1: I come, but let's talk about that hair. One wonderful hair,
Speaker 1: a lovely face, one of the one of the highest
Speaker 1: men on the UK circuit, someone who someone who could
Speaker 1: just coast on their looks and yet still bothers to
Speaker 1: write material. And I respect that. Well, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I'm not saying I agree
Speaker 1: with what you're saying, but what you should well, I
Speaker 1: was saying when I was growing up, I didn't have
Speaker 1: I wasn't like covering attention from people. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a handsome dude. He's a handsome dude. It seems to
Speaker 1: be like now I'm older, king, like, hello, into yourself,
Speaker 1: which is it's quite nice. You have God, You've got God,
Speaker 1: You've grown into yourself. You know what, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think you have as well. And I think it
Speaker 1: might be the bid because I saw a picture of
Speaker 1: you younger. He didn't have a beard. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: should always have a bed. What a beard face? What
Speaker 1: a beard face? Oh, it's funny. My ex partner of
Speaker 1: my Marilyn, always used to say, you should have you stubble,
Speaker 1: have you stubble? And this was like years or beards
Speaker 1: were fashionable, so I was always it looks dirty, it
Speaker 1: looks dirty. And then one of the actually, I haven't
Speaker 1: got any lips, so it's good that it is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no lips frames the no lips. Nice? Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it's very kind of you to say. It's really
Speaker 1: nice to see you. You're you. You're one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people on the circuit. I've known you for many years.
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to you in a wild You have
Speaker 1: been doing your own podcast called say the Name. It's
Speaker 1: a very good name. Insane in the membrane, insane in
Speaker 1: the membrane. So pleased with it. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know why you bother doing the podcast. I just put
Speaker 1: the title out and just just relax, just put merch out.
Speaker 1: But no podcast. And on that podcast you talk to
Speaker 1: men about their brains, yes, correct, yeah about there about
Speaker 1: about how because it's at the age old thing of
Speaker 1: men not being able to talk about their their thoughts
Speaker 1: and their feelings and kind of stem from that, really
Speaker 1: getting getting guys to open up. And since I've started it,
Speaker 1: and not because not because I have, but I've become
Speaker 1: like part of a wave of now really are men
Speaker 1: really are open enough? And it's so good to see.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's such a lovely thing. And do you
Speaker 1: I mean, this is such a like question, like in
Speaker 1: a in a nice neat sound bite. What have you
Speaker 1: left to listen to? My own advice? Nice? I've noticed
Speaker 1: that I mate him mind, I made him mind John Gamer.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful man. And I met him through a gig,
Speaker 1: him and him and he's wonderful. Missus Mandy were at
Speaker 1: the front, and he's a very They're both beautiful people.
Speaker 1: They're quite. He's got a lovely beard and she's got
Speaker 1: a lovely beard. They really lovely beard faces. But they're
Speaker 1: lovely people. And I've gotten to know him over the years.
Speaker 1: And I was a gig with John recently, just for Christmas,
Speaker 1: and he said to me, and he goes, I was tall,
Speaker 1: like something, should she goes? You? Never ring me goes you.
Speaker 1: You're telling me now that you've had these issues, I've
Speaker 1: never hear from me yet. Your whole podcast is all
Speaker 1: about men reaching out and men doing this and men
Speaker 1: doing that. And I'm like, yeah, And that was when
Speaker 1: I went, I don't listen to my own advice. It's
Speaker 1: so hard that And I'm sure I've talked about this,
Speaker 1: but I know what that's like. It's weird whenever you
Speaker 1: hear a friend tell you man, you know, a month ago,
Speaker 1: I was incredibly sad. I was a real really presson
Speaker 1: and you you're angry with them, You're like, why didn't
Speaker 1: you call me? You should have called me? But I
Speaker 1: also know when I've been in that state, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to call someone because you feel like sort of embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Do you feel the shame, do you? I don't know,
Speaker 1: or you think it's not worth it. It's just annoying.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to annoy them. It's really hard. Have
Speaker 1: you found yourself doing it since you've realized that. Since
Speaker 1: since then it's only been a month or so, I've
Speaker 1: been more more more aware of replying to people's messages,
Speaker 1: actually messaging people saying how are you know? Because we
Speaker 1: just have this block where I'm kind of, oh, they're
Speaker 1: busy on I can't and it's a really it's a
Speaker 1: really will I say block. It's a really weird feeling
Speaker 1: where you go you can't phasically do it. You go
Speaker 1: to pick up and you cannot physically press the buttons
Speaker 1: to send a message or reply. Just this this is
Speaker 1: weird kind of I don't know, it just all shuts
Speaker 1: down and trying to push through that. It's really hard.
Speaker 1: So I get it, and it's very important that you
Speaker 1: do start to work and be honest with people like
Speaker 1: you and I. We've we've talked about this before. You
Speaker 1: and I are because you don't upstet anyone. We've been
Speaker 1: in situations where we could have gone actually that's not
Speaker 1: really for me, but we've ended up going actually up
Speaker 1: we were waits something that you know, really, if you'd
Speaker 1: just gone actually that's not really for me, but thank
Speaker 1: you for you. We wouldn't have all the children we have,
Speaker 1: acres of children strewn about the place, a whole. You
Speaker 1: could do you do? You could do ted Lasso just
Speaker 1: with your kids line. Oh no, I think about all
Speaker 1: the teams in the Premier League. Anyone to do? And
Speaker 1: then you get into it on the New Sue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you do your podcast. You need a thing. Now,
Speaker 1: there's something that I've forgotten to tell you day, which
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel bad about it because I probably
Speaker 1: you know, we're old friends. I should have I should
Speaker 1: have I should have reached out to you and texted
Speaker 1: you about this. But again it's probably my self esteem.
Speaker 1: I thought he's not going to care. But now I've
Speaker 1: made him, now I've remembered it, I'm like, fuck it.
Speaker 1: You know what. This isn't about me, This is about you,
Speaker 1: and I should have been a better friend. So you
Speaker 1: just give you just have to tell me. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: just tell you you. Well you've died. What Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're It was my birthday yesterday, that birthday, so it
Speaker 1: was exact birthday. I'm exactly fifty and shut up to
Speaker 1: fifty year Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, happy birthday. What a
Speaker 1: way to go, such a nice time. And it is
Speaker 1: weird because I did. When I went to bed, I
Speaker 1: felt odd, but I just put it down to eating
Speaker 1: and drinking too much. What did you do for your fiftieth?
Speaker 1: Is that something you can tell us? We went to well?
Speaker 1: I thought I was just being taken out from meal.
Speaker 1: I did a gig on Friday in Wooster. How did
Speaker 1: it go? Wonderful at a wonderful time? That so good?
Speaker 1: And then there was a hotel, wonderful time. And then
Speaker 1: I got taken to Bristol and I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna have a meal and a night out in Bristol.
Speaker 1: I spoke to my sons and they were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: a happy birthday dad, you know, sorry, we'll all see
Speaker 1: you at some point blah blah blah. And then got
Speaker 1: to the restaurant and then sat there they were sat
Speaker 1: in the restaurant. That's nice. So Karnu, my eldest, and
Speaker 1: my youngest, Bailey and Karlu's wife married are all sat there.
Speaker 1: Wonderful time you've had quite This is the thing I've
Speaker 1: always well, I'm always fascinated by you. Is you've had
Speaker 1: all the lives and sometimes in the in the in
Speaker 1: a different order than its average. You had children when
Speaker 1: you were very young, right twenty twenty, and you're brilliant dad,
Speaker 1: and you love your children. And now you're like a teenager.
Speaker 1: And I was making up for the fact that I
Speaker 1: was a dad at twenty. So when you're ye, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to go out and kicking the ass out of
Speaker 1: it and doing all manner of stuff. And now my
Speaker 1: boys are oll I mean, my eldest would be he's
Speaker 1: thirty in March. God, that's why. How you're yeah, and
Speaker 1: now you're out. Now I'm back out and I'm buying trainers,
Speaker 1: running around like a loonar doing pills for the first time.
Speaker 1: What's this? What is this stuff? This is? This smells lovely,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, yeah. And obviously I've kick as,
Speaker 1: I have it too much. And now i've I've I've
Speaker 1: burned too brightly, I've perish. I don't believe it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you die? Well, like I said, I just
Speaker 1: went to sleep. I thought I was you know, I
Speaker 1: felt I felt a bit dodgy. Thought maybe I just
Speaker 1: too much drunk, too much, you know, maybe had a
Speaker 1: bad tequila. You know, I don't on this podcast agree
Speaker 1: with just dying in your sleep. Something happened. You might
Speaker 1: have been asleep for it, but something happened. Well, I
Speaker 1: do chend to sleepwalk. Actually, I was fually listening to
Speaker 1: now and I was like, yeah, I do that. Amount
Speaker 1: of times I've ended up, I've been stood in the
Speaker 1: lounge looking out at the patio doors. Really but what
Speaker 1: we're doing doing? Yeah, I probably I always you know what,
Speaker 1: my biggest fear. I was always worried that something would
Speaker 1: fall on me, like in the cartoons, like a piano
Speaker 1: or or an anvil or something like that. So I so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it would have been that, because that's my biggest fear.
Speaker 1: So it would have been it would have been a piano.
Speaker 1: So you were sleepwalking and a piano dropped on you.
Speaker 1: You never you rarely see anvils in any context, let
Speaker 1: alone hanging from cranes. No, I've only ever seen I've
Speaker 1: seen them. Yeah, I've seen them in old, really old
Speaker 1: like vintage shops where they've got like really old like
Speaker 1: farm equipment like wooden plows or something like that, but
Speaker 1: I've never seen one being used. Well maybe I saw
Speaker 1: as a doorstop. Oh that's true. Maybe they're more of
Speaker 1: a threat than I think they are. Maybe they maybe
Speaker 1: because the cartoons were American, maybe they had more of them.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should be more vigilant in America. You got
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to look up now and again, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. This is there you go. There's some advice
Speaker 1: for the listeners. Yeah, looking at your phone for a
Speaker 1: minute and look up, because you never know a piano
Speaker 1: might fall on you. Yeah, okay, sleepwalking, Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: do that. It's a weird time to have a piano delivered,
Speaker 1: But that's your neighbors for us, Bace. I'm a comedian,
Speaker 1: so I worked night, so I was probably Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was for you. The piano you just forgot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the piano delivered. They thought i'd come out to meet them.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Sleep fifty years old, Yes,
Speaker 1: beautiful face. Do you worry about death? Not really. I
Speaker 1: worry about the effect that it would have on loved ones.
Speaker 1: I think I'm not. I used to be like, there's
Speaker 1: nothing after this, this is all there is. Make the
Speaker 1: most there's an element that I still think we should
Speaker 1: try and make the most of this, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't really know what happens afterwards. I
Speaker 1: believe in energy. I believe that with the energy within us,
Speaker 1: the vibrations of us, I believe that goes off into
Speaker 1: the universe somewhere you become part of something else, something
Speaker 1: else vibrating, you know, But I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really worry about it though. So you think
Speaker 1: you're energy joins any energy that's near it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: kind of just go back, like the energy just kind
Speaker 1: of mingles in with other stuff and you go back
Speaker 1: into the Because I think someone someone, someone said, we're
Speaker 1: all just vibrations, vibrating in different different speeds and ways.
Speaker 1: It sounds mad now I'm saying it out loud, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's true. And and and what in terms of like consciousness,
Speaker 1: what happens to that? Still still going? Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know that's to see. This is the thing? Is this
Speaker 1: just a vessel like you know, like Independence Day when
Speaker 1: they opened the head and there's a little dude or
Speaker 1: you know, is this yeah? Is there is there's something?
Speaker 1: Because we just don't know, We don't know you know,
Speaker 1: like the Men in Black at the end of the
Speaker 1: end sequence of the Men in Black when when they're
Speaker 1: playing with the marbles, Yeah, goes throughout, It goes through
Speaker 1: all of our galaxies away from it, and then into
Speaker 1: the marbles into it, and you're like, yeah, that could
Speaker 1: be it. We could be just part of this just
Speaker 1: endless cycle that just you just move around. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We are talking about films all right, By the way,
Speaker 1: Men in Black and Men in Black too, the end
Speaker 1: beats of them are fucking profound. Yeah, that bit when
Speaker 1: it comes out of the Earth, goes past our solar system,
Speaker 1: out past all the other solar systems, and it keeps going,
Speaker 1: it keeps going, and then it's on a just the
Speaker 1: mad aliens playing marbles. Yeah, with the solar systems. And
Speaker 1: you're like, well, yeah, but I remember, I remember my ex,
Speaker 1: my ex wife, India, lovely, lovely woman, but she was
Speaker 1: brought up a Jehovah's witness. She was a creationist rather
Speaker 1: than she didn't believe in evolution. So we had these
Speaker 1: mad conversations and I'm like, yeah, but we do evolve
Speaker 1: because the universe is always expanding. And then she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what's the expanding into And you're like, so you
Speaker 1: just don't know, you don't know, gun to head, piano
Speaker 1: to head. What's the answer. I think we go. I
Speaker 1: think parts of us go somewhere because time, time isn't
Speaker 1: the thing doesn't exist. It's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: framework that is put onto us. Because the sun just
Speaker 1: you know, we are right, we go around the sun,
Speaker 1: so there is no kind of night and day, just
Speaker 1: light and dark. There's also the time. We just grow,
Speaker 1: we grow and we age. But you know, like like
Speaker 1: I say, asked my fiftieth birthday, go yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: around for that along that amount of time. But time
Speaker 1: really doesn't exist. It's not a thing. So it's so
Speaker 1: it's crazy. And then saying that people go, yeah it does, yeah,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no it does because human beings have created time,
Speaker 1: the framework of time, but it doesn't. It's not a
Speaker 1: thing in the universe. Like if aliens want to come
Speaker 1: to us, they were not going to say, what's the time,
Speaker 1: because it doesn't it's a it's a human it's a
Speaker 1: human thing that we've it's a human construct. Whereas alien
Speaker 1: I don't even smoke. We listen to me, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's all it is is that we go around the
Speaker 1: sun with this light and dark. But we've in order
Speaker 1: for us to kind of I thought, we've just become
Speaker 1: used to the fact that we've got weeks and months
Speaker 1: and years and things like that that and say it
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. But it's a so I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wish. I don't think there's another place.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's heaven as such, but I think
Speaker 1: you just become part of the universe again. You know. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm glad you you you had a go, but
Speaker 1: you were very far from the truth, because there is
Speaker 1: a heaven. There's a heaven, and yeah, and you're going
Speaker 1: straight in. Anyone with beard faces gets straight into heaven.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I was wrong, which is a weird rule
Speaker 1: to have, especially what we know about bits. Do you
Speaker 1: what's your favorite thing in the whole world? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: do actually love movies. I love movies more than television. Television.
Speaker 1: People say, oh you know, they go, oh, yeah, you've
Speaker 1: got it. Takes a couple of seasons to get going.
Speaker 1: I kind of I watch a few, like I'll get
Speaker 1: it now and I'll stop watching. I can't I can't.
Speaker 1: I have to watch things all in one go. Like
Speaker 1: that's why the movies great, because if I don't, if
Speaker 1: I can't watch anyone go, I can't just wander off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's mad how people say that about TV. Say, it's
Speaker 1: just just you've just got to watch twenty five hours
Speaker 1: of it and then it starts getting good. You like,
Speaker 1: what I'm going to be dead? Ye, twenty five hours.
Speaker 1: I really there was We've break We've breaking bad. And
Speaker 1: what I love, I know everyone goes on about it,
Speaker 1: but what I love is when I've read up about
Speaker 1: it and they say that even the colors of what
Speaker 1: they were wearing and everything kind of everything meant something
Speaker 1: in that show. Yeah, which made it. It just turned
Speaker 1: it into a piece of art rather than a very
Speaker 1: clever TV show. Is beyond clever. Everything was thought about,
Speaker 1: every every every miniscule bit of it was. There was
Speaker 1: a reason for everything was wonderful. But my son, my
Speaker 1: eldest son, and I we were living together at the time,
Speaker 1: and we said, look, we're going to watch it together,
Speaker 1: but we can only watch it when we're together. So
Speaker 1: there was so there was like weeks where we didn't
Speaker 1: watch it, you know, and we can't and you could
Speaker 1: see its Netflix or wherever it was. You can see
Speaker 1: if someone's watched it. But that was good. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: do love starbars as well Starbus. Yeah, star bars, you're ready? Starbars? Okay,
Speaker 1: this on this heaven is made of starbus. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is amazing. Yeah, I'm gonna say starbars where the original
Speaker 1: or not Boost Boosts came later? Yeah, boost is a
Speaker 1: starbar knockoff. Yeah, exactly, and you're not afraid to say it.
Speaker 1: This heaven is made of starbus. Seats have made of
Speaker 1: starbus with the rappers on for the seats so you
Speaker 1: don't get melted chocolate on your bum. The wolves have
Speaker 1: made of starbus. At any point you can grab a
Speaker 1: star bar and eat it. Some of the people that
Speaker 1: have made of starbus, you can eat their faces. No
Speaker 1: one complaints. Everyone's delighted to see you. Of course they
Speaker 1: are delighted, and they want to talk about your life.
Speaker 1: But they want to talk about your life through film.
Speaker 1: And the first thing they ask is what's the first
Speaker 1: film you remember seeing? Rich Wilson first film, I remember
Speaker 1: seeing the first That's one I remember seeing as a
Speaker 1: child was the original King Kong, The Black and White one.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I remember that I'd had a birthday. But
Speaker 1: how old you? That's like the trees. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: time doesn't does exist, and I'm a time had. I
Speaker 1: had a birthday party when I was really young. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I remember sitting up with my dad. I
Speaker 1: was sitting in his lap. I remember we had the
Speaker 1: lights off as well, and so it was and we
Speaker 1: were watching the just lit by the flickering of the
Speaker 1: TV and watching the black and white version of King Kong. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I remember. I do remember. That's one of
Speaker 1: my earliest memories that how old we do? Think? I
Speaker 1: must have been five or six. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you remember? Do you remember it being like magical? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a nice moment because I was just sat
Speaker 1: with my dad and it was just here and I
Speaker 1: still it. I'm talking about him like he's gone, but no,
Speaker 1: still it. But we were like, I mean, just at
Speaker 1: this moment where we were sat watching the TV and
Speaker 1: just give us a nice I remember, I remember the
Speaker 1: warmth of it. It was just a nice, nice moment,
Speaker 1: you know, pajamas on and you know, yeah, it's lovely.
Speaker 1: It's fucking great, the original King Kong and you know
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with saying I say this a lot,
Speaker 1: but I think the special effects in King Kong last
Speaker 1: longer than c GA because it's because it's taptail. Because
Speaker 1: it's there, even though you can see sometimes it's a
Speaker 1: stop motion puppet, sometimes it's a giant puppet head, but
Speaker 1: it's there. It's physically there, and the actors can interact
Speaker 1: with it, and they're not looking at a random spot
Speaker 1: on the wool. Yeah, this is it. When you look
Speaker 1: at some they keep putting up the people things that
Speaker 1: I follow on Instagram and they show you like behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of John Wick and the matrix of that,
Speaker 1: and I don't really it blows my mind what they
Speaker 1: do to get the shots of the At the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: know that they're actually not I saw one where it
Speaker 1: was John Wickhams a motorbike scene and they're they're they're
Speaker 1: changing a lot of fighting all that, and then you
Speaker 1: look and the whole thing is green screen. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't think they're actually I've thought they
Speaker 1: were all trailers or something like that, but they're actually
Speaker 1: they're getting moved around in the studio like chess pieces
Speaker 1: and it's I'm sure there's something in the like even
Speaker 1: say war I don't know if you ever saw a
Speaker 1: war horse the play or Lion King. If you see
Speaker 1: the live version of the Lion King, like you can
Speaker 1: see the actors in the puppets, like they're not hiding
Speaker 1: the puppet that you see the puppet and you see
Speaker 1: the person moving the puppet, and they're both in your
Speaker 1: field of vision. And yet you as audience make the
Speaker 1: magical connection to believe in this horse, and they don't
Speaker 1: hide the joints or whatever. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: true of physical special effects. Is if you really question it,
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I know someone's made this and it's
Speaker 1: rubber or it's whatever, but you buy it because it
Speaker 1: exists in a way that I don't think you buy
Speaker 1: computers doing stuff I know you know it doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, And we're going to watch Avenue Q. You
Speaker 1: ever saw that, But the puppets are only from the
Speaker 1: waist up. But after a while you forget that the
Speaker 1: people are whold you kind of focus on the puppet.
Speaker 1: Your brain kind of goes, I know that's the main character,
Speaker 1: not the person. The puppet focusing on that. There's one
Speaker 1: bit I think they're having sex, and you're going they're
Speaker 1: having sex, so you kind of just yeah. But then
Speaker 1: when you think about what blows me and blows me
Speaker 1: away back the old, the old stuff like with Buster
Speaker 1: Keaton and Harold Lloyd. Yeah, well that one with the
Speaker 1: one with what's it called is it the General where
Speaker 1: he's on the train. Yeah, and he's and he's he's
Speaker 1: he's on the front. He's got a wooden sleeper and
Speaker 1: he's and it's sleepers on the track and as he's
Speaker 1: going along, he's banging the sleep he's got his hand
Speaker 1: on the on the things that are on the track
Speaker 1: and they're going out of the way. He's running around
Speaker 1: on the train, he's sitting on the on the thing
Speaker 1: on the wheels, and it's all they did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did that, And that blows my mind. And that's
Speaker 1: why it holds up, I think, because yeah, because you
Speaker 1: because you you feel it. There's genuine like jeopardy and
Speaker 1: like this is fucking real. Yeah. But when you look
Speaker 1: at the sum again, put put the footage up of
Speaker 1: especially effects of Harold Lloyd hanging off the clock was
Speaker 1: actually it was just like it was the way they
Speaker 1: angled the cameras, so he wasn't actually it was a
Speaker 1: it was a mock up of the side of a building.
Speaker 1: It was on top of a high building, and so
Speaker 1: it's a mattress underneath him, so he's not far off
Speaker 1: the ground, but because the buildings in the background, it
Speaker 1: looked like he was hanging up off this building. And
Speaker 1: then the one with Charlie Chapman and his roller skating
Speaker 1: around and he looks like he's going near the edge
Speaker 1: of the where the where the ballisters have fallen away,
Speaker 1: and he's going backwards and he's nearly and then they
Speaker 1: showed you that how they did that as well, the
Speaker 1: angles of that. It's so clever, but they actually they
Speaker 1: actually did it that moving the cameras to the point,
Speaker 1: which is so quick. I'm not knocking cgi. I mean
Speaker 1: that takes hours of work and to make it look
Speaker 1: the way it does. But the old the older movies,
Speaker 1: they're just they were in it, and it fascinating. Love it,
Speaker 1: Love it. What's the film that made you cry the most? Now?
Speaker 1: Are you a cryer? I suspect you you're you're good
Speaker 1: at crying. Ah. I love a good cry and that's
Speaker 1: certainly been in the last because when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I always I used to cry a lot, and I
Speaker 1: always thought I was weak bloody crying again, what's the woman,
Speaker 1: Why I'm not crying? But now it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm an emotional person, so I cry. I cry all
Speaker 1: the time. I cried. I only what I said, CHRISTI
Speaker 1: just gone. I watched for the first time, I watched
Speaker 1: the Holiday, never watched it before, didn't want to watch it,
Speaker 1: and that looks like a lot of old shit. Jency rubbed.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch it, and so we were
Speaker 1: I was here and it was put on and I
Speaker 1: just sat there and then by the end of way,
Speaker 1: I was blubbing. Was absolutely blogging and it's one of
Speaker 1: the best things I've ever seen, lovely all my eyes out.
Speaker 1: I've absolutely just cried my eyes out. And I mean
Speaker 1: he's probably been mentioned as well before the beginning of
Speaker 1: up has been mentioned many many times. That just make
Speaker 1: just breaks my heart every single time I'll have to
Speaker 1: be crying in front of people, right, yeah, yeah about you. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even I didn't think you would be go ahead, no, no,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. What happens you must feel it sometimes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, just push it, push it down
Speaker 1: and give heart disease. So it's gonna it's gonna push
Speaker 1: it down and then it pops out of your Every
Speaker 1: ship is just frault because so much in a moment,
Speaker 1: I'm used tears. What's the film that scared you the most?
Speaker 1: Rich and do you like being scared? Yes? I do,
Speaker 1: Actually good. I don't like like torture, porn and things
Speaker 1: like that. That the first saw a film is good,
Speaker 1: but after that he got a little bit much. I'm
Speaker 1: not into that sort of thing. I don't find that scared,
Speaker 1: to find it a bit unnecessary. The original Woman in Black,
Speaker 1: the TV film that they made, that's pretty scary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Andy Aman. Yeah, when she's over they see her
Speaker 1: at at the other side of the graveyard and she's
Speaker 1: just this whoa. He's lying in bed and she appears
Speaker 1: over him. Horrifying. And then they remade it with Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was sensational. It was like horror Hammer horror films
Speaker 1: were coming back. It was like the first one hot
Speaker 1: Hammer Horror again and it was absolutely superb, absolutely superb.
Speaker 1: There's more to Daniel Radcliffe than Harry. You know, he
Speaker 1: really did step up. And I remember watching it. I
Speaker 1: was sat there, my boys were there in India, and
Speaker 1: my ex wife all sat there and I had a
Speaker 1: plate in my hand and there's a bit where the
Speaker 1: woman in black comes running out of the pledge and yeah,
Speaker 1: and I literally snapped the play. Yeah, the one, the
Speaker 1: one that terrifies me. I did when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. So it was it was the first
Speaker 1: Halloween that my friend Tom, my friend Tom, I've noticed.
Speaker 1: I was three years old and it was the first
Speaker 1: Halloween that we've been left alone together while our parents
Speaker 1: had gone out. And they went right, just you can
Speaker 1: watch what you want, We trust you. So we watched
Speaker 1: Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein or where it was, all
Speaker 1: those films, and then we watched the Thing for the
Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, what mate, The bit when the head
Speaker 1: the next stretches in, the head goes off the floor,
Speaker 1: off onto the floor and then turns into a spider,
Speaker 1: the heads upside down and then he scuttle out of
Speaker 1: the room and the guy goes, you gotta be fucking
Speaker 1: killing me. It's such a good film. And at the
Speaker 1: end when it's Kurt Russell and our Commemari's name the guy.
Speaker 1: Really good film, and they're just sitting and it's those
Speaker 1: two left and they're like, yeah, either one of us could,
Speaker 1: We could be it, but we're too tired to deal
Speaker 1: with it. It's just such a good film. The thing
Speaker 1: the not the original, because there was one of like
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty whatever, but the nineteen eighty two one was horrifying.
Speaker 1: Very good answer. What's the film that most people don't like?
Speaker 1: It's not critically acclaimed, but you love it. You don't
Speaker 1: care what any of these fools say to you. The
Speaker 1: transporter of Jason Statham. Lovely answer. There's just something about
Speaker 1: a Jason Staitham film, and they're always the same. He's
Speaker 1: always one guy on his own against everybody else. He
Speaker 1: doesn't fuck with a formula. He does what he does.
Speaker 1: And the thing is he's aware of what he does
Speaker 1: as well. At no point Jason Staatem's not run around
Speaker 1: going I don't know why I don't do Shakespeare. Jason's like, look,
Speaker 1: I've got my own He's as his own genre, staith
Speaker 1: and film. He's got his own thing. And we watched
Speaker 1: all this comment, all this Christmas stuff, the whole of Christmas.
Speaker 1: So we watched we watched the Holiday, and we watched
Speaker 1: Muppets Christmas. Carol. I hadn't seen before. I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan. I know you're a
Speaker 1: huge fan. I didn't have to. I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to get it into this. He's just trying to get
Speaker 1: extra points. I mean, you haven't yet said what you
Speaker 1: thought of it, so we're in the real danger day.
Speaker 1: The reason I hadn't seen it I get because I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I remember I was a fan of the Muppets when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, but not a huge fan. I
Speaker 1: was like, to take it, Lea. But the Muppet Christmas
Speaker 1: movie is incredible. This just all of it. The Ghost
Speaker 1: of Christmas is present, the big the big Guy present. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he ages as he's as he's talking that, and
Speaker 1: again I was I was like, oh my god, when
Speaker 1: he it's deep in it, it's deep. The Christmas President ages, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, and yeah, completely blowing it,
Speaker 1: blowing out of the war. But I up until then,
Speaker 1: I was growing my hair just for Christmas. And those
Speaker 1: of people said, rich, I used to love your hair.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, but I find something different. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I was really depressed. I'm growing. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then just before Christmas, my flatmate Sweeney, who's my barber,
Speaker 1: and I went, look, I need to sort this out.
Speaker 1: So we had got it. We got it back. I
Speaker 1: got my hair cut back and as he was cutting
Speaker 1: it went, yeah, we're getting rid of the sadness. Rich.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel much better. But then watching the
Speaker 1: Christmas Carol and Michael Caine's hair in that, I was
Speaker 1: watching that's what why none of you tell me my
Speaker 1: header like that? But so I've watched all of these
Speaker 1: films and it was I mean, I had nearly had
Speaker 1: diabetes from all the from all the sackering. It's too much.
Speaker 1: And I got back and I just said, I need
Speaker 1: to watch a Jason Staphan film. So we watched The
Speaker 1: Wrath of Man, which is it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: what it is, but it's not shit, it's just you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Transport, the Transporter, it was the first one.
Speaker 1: It's set in the south of France, so I think
Speaker 1: that's why it makes it a little bit more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bit more. Yeah, it's a bit more palatable.
Speaker 1: The bit the beginning you see him he's a very
Speaker 1: methodical man. The bit when they get in they get
Speaker 1: in the car, the guys he's he's been hired to
Speaker 1: be the driver, and he get they get in the car,
Speaker 1: and he goes, hang on a minute, there's who's this.
Speaker 1: There's too many of you. I've got enough fuel for
Speaker 1: this amount of weight. This guy, you've not You're accounted
Speaker 1: for this. You know. I've done the tires, I've done this,
Speaker 1: I've done that. And then and he does and the
Speaker 1: police are coming and he's just sat there and the
Speaker 1: guy goes, you're gonna fucking move and he's like, no, no no,
Speaker 1: you I can't because and the guy just shoots him,
Speaker 1: goes right, let's fucking go. So that that's brilliant. And
Speaker 1: then the police chief in the film is excellent. He's
Speaker 1: so dry and witty and funny, excellent, And it just
Speaker 1: just elevated. I think it just elevates that get above
Speaker 1: other staith and films. It's just other films in the
Speaker 1: Jason State. Yeah, I think it's I really like it.
Speaker 1: And a bit where he goes after the guy, he
Speaker 1: goes back to the where all the bad guys are
Speaker 1: and you hear the doorbell ring, and so the bad
Speaker 1: guy gets up and he looks through the through the
Speaker 1: hole to see and just see Jason Stephen running at
Speaker 1: the door and he just kicks it and it's it's
Speaker 1: such a brilliant scene, just bam. And then you're in it.
Speaker 1: And then they're like fighting with hammers and it's like
Speaker 1: the race. No, I'm older next with that thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hell boy. The choreography of that, it's just great.
Speaker 1: And that and people slay it. Oh, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: haven't watched you haven't watched it. You don't know you're born.
Speaker 1: The Transporter the first one, brilliant. What is the film
Speaker 1: that you used to love? You loved it, but now
Speaker 1: you're not so sure. You've watched it reasonably and you
Speaker 1: don't like it so much. Name. I was gonna say, bullet,
Speaker 1: I love that film. But still I still love that film.
Speaker 1: Stephen's coolest cars in it, the storyline, Robert Vaughan's in it.
Speaker 1: It's such a good film. But what what messed it
Speaker 1: up for me? The car chase. I noticed that there's
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes where they used the same scene
Speaker 1: but from a different angle. Yeah, and it and I'm like,
Speaker 1: when they come down the hill and they scared and
Speaker 1: they go around the corner and this Cadillac comes up
Speaker 1: and stops, stops, and it's like a hubcap comes off
Speaker 1: one of the cars. Yeah, and then they do it
Speaker 1: from another seat, and they do it from another angle
Speaker 1: and it's the same, and I'm like, ah, it ruined it.
Speaker 1: It ruined it. I was going to say that that's
Speaker 1: a nice I love it. I love it. I still
Speaker 1: love Bullet. But for me, it was Blazing Saddles. What
Speaker 1: I know. I watched it recently and I just and
Speaker 1: he really I was I don't know. I used to
Speaker 1: laugh my head off when I was a kid. The
Speaker 1: part scene with the beans around the fire j U
Speaker 1: to be bent double. But I watched it again, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a shame because I adore Maddeline Kahn, I love
Speaker 1: I loved so much. Yeah, Blazing Saddles, I just it's
Speaker 1: not you know, I've matured now, very sad to very
Speaker 1: sad to hear yeah, I still love Young Frankenstein. That
Speaker 1: still that's that still stands up. What is the film
Speaker 1: that means the most to you, Rich Wilson, Not necessarily
Speaker 1: the film itself is any good, but because the experience
Speaker 1: you had seeing it always makes it special for you. Chilson.
Speaker 1: I think Oliver Stone The Doors that movie film only
Speaker 1: because it was when they're coming out in nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 1: I'd met the mother of my kid. It was the
Speaker 1: first date we went on. We went to see that film,
Speaker 1: and then a little while later she became pregnant with
Speaker 1: my first son. So it kind of reminds me of that.
Speaker 1: It was the first time I've moved from I've moved
Speaker 1: out of my my mom and dad's house. I've moved out,
Speaker 1: so I would have been yeah, nineteen or nineteen, i'd
Speaker 1: met Lisa, and so that whole time, it's just it
Speaker 1: was just new and exciting. And yeah, and I love
Speaker 1: The Doors as well. I've always loved a big fan
Speaker 1: of Doors for years, and I think that now when
Speaker 1: every time I see that, it reminds me of that time.
Speaker 1: It's a really nice it's a nice moment. It's wild.
Speaker 1: You were nineteen, Yeah, well this is going on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched The Doors in years, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: I used to love it. It was actually like when
Speaker 1: I watched On Road tasting it. I'd love to have
Speaker 1: it still holds up. I used to fucking love that film.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it for a long time. And then
Speaker 1: you see like Billy Idols in it, and well Dale
Speaker 1: Cooper's on the on the keys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: So you knew him from Twin Peaks. Yeah, and now
Speaker 1: he's and now he was he's playing Raymonds at and
Speaker 1: it's yeah. And what's his name, Matt Dylan's brother, Kevin Dillon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the drum that's right. Yeah. So it's an incredible
Speaker 1: movie with that. And then you've got what's his name,
Speaker 1: the guy that went on to be in Robin Hood
Speaker 1: Prince of Thieves. He was he was Alan Rickman's sidekick Americans,
Speaker 1: got a really gruff voice. I can't remember his name,
Speaker 1: but when he comes out, he goes, this is Morrison
Speaker 1: defends are coming down and making an album. I don't
Speaker 1: remember his name, but he was just a brilliant actor,
Speaker 1: and they're all I think that's what I mean. That
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone stuff gets a bit slated sometimes, but I
Speaker 1: think The Doors is a really good film. You mean
Speaker 1: Michael Wincott, Yeah, Michael Wincot him brilliant actor. Brilliant actor
Speaker 1: because he's the one in the Roman The Prince of
Speaker 1: Thieves when Alan Rickman says, uh, you know, play his
Speaker 1: heart with a rusty spoon, where he goes, there's the
Speaker 1: worst spoon, you know, the last moment, Uh, lovely answer,
Speaker 1: en film, What is the film that you must relate to?
Speaker 1: It's Wilson Quadrophenia. I think, of course, of course that's
Speaker 1: your auntswer. I think i'd be annoyed if that wasn't
Speaker 1: your Aunell. I really thought about this, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to go with it. But now when I kept
Speaker 1: thinking about I'm like, yeah, that is that. I did
Speaker 1: feel that way. He was kind of wanted to be
Speaker 1: long bos at the same time not being able, you know,
Speaker 1: not really wanted to. I don't want to give what.
Speaker 1: You want to conform, but you don't want to. It's
Speaker 1: a real mix, a real mixture because you don't you
Speaker 1: don't want to be like everybody else. At the same time,
Speaker 1: you do want to be like everybody else. You want
Speaker 1: to be accepted, but you don't want to be accepted.
Speaker 1: And I think we all go through that, and even
Speaker 1: all the time, we go through that, all the time,
Speaker 1: even when beyond our teenage is we want to be accepted.
Speaker 1: We don't really want to be like everybody else, but
Speaker 1: we do. And it's real. And I really related to
Speaker 1: Jimmy who was who was in that, you know, and
Speaker 1: and I just loved it. Was one of the first
Speaker 1: albums I bought as well. The soundtrack to Quadrophenia was
Speaker 1: one of the first records I bought when I was
Speaker 1: a kid I was, I bought. I bought Quadrophenia and
Speaker 1: Lack a Virgin by Madonna on the same day with
Speaker 1: my birthday money, actually with my birthday money, so big
Speaker 1: that's a big day out the big that was when
Speaker 1: the Virgin Megastore had just opened on Oxford Streets. Big deal,
Speaker 1: was a big deal. And that was my dad said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into the Virgin Megastore. Yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: heard of it before. Like, this is amazing, you know,
Speaker 1: and we're on our way acres of vinyl. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: So I think Quadrophenia is the one for me that
Speaker 1: I just went, Yeah, that's that feels I can relate
Speaker 1: to that. What's the film that here we go. I've
Speaker 1: just realized where we are, Okay, I'm personally excited. Rich Wilson,
Speaker 1: what's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Okay, so week
Speaker 1: sexpid film. So growing up it was things like there
Speaker 1: was you know, that was moments. I had a big
Speaker 1: crush on Linda Carter as Wonder Woman when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. That was my first kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved her. It was quite late on actually nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four and I had my first kind of like wow,
Speaker 1: she's spectacular. And it was when Cameron Diez comes down
Speaker 1: the escalator in the Mask and I'm not I remember
Speaker 1: being the cinema. I was like, oh my, that woman
Speaker 1: is beautiful, just beautiful. Never heard of her before, I
Speaker 1: ever seen her before, and it was just a moment
Speaker 1: like wow, that was That's a moment where she's incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Mask. There's subcategories of this question, Okay, subcategories troubling,
Speaker 1: bone is worrying, why I don't what's the film that
Speaker 1: you found a rousing that you weren't sure you should?
Speaker 1: This again was a late one, a late one. It
Speaker 1: was Avatar, and I really really found the Giant Blue
Speaker 1: Lady attractive, really found a spectacular like she didn't take
Speaker 1: any ship. He was beautiful, and I just remember thinking, Um,
Speaker 1: this is weird. Yeah she likes ting, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's massive, And I'm like, yeah, that was a weird one.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Rabbit, you know there was all that, yeah, and
Speaker 1: the fact, you know, you know, had those those moments.
Speaker 1: But for me, the twenty foot tall blue lady in
Speaker 1: in Avatar. Yeah, it's a great yeah, really fit so
Speaker 1: fits fits a fit. She's fit, she's Avatar. I love.
Speaker 1: I love strong women, strong blue women, strong blue women.
Speaker 1: I think, well, yeah, and when you say that, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go go to any town in the
Speaker 1: in the middle of winter where women are run around
Speaker 1: with no coats on. It all mean them strong blue women.
Speaker 1: It's really funny, lovely strong blue women. Yeah, the women
Speaker 1: of Newcastle, strong, wonderful women. Why did you say it
Speaker 1: could be anywhere in London Birmingham could be a sort objectively,
Speaker 1: Rich Wilson, Yes, objectively. What's the greatest film ever made? Ah?
Speaker 1: You see, this is a tricky one because I was
Speaker 1: going to say a Budapest hotel. There's not an ouncer
Speaker 1: fat on it. It's it's flawless. In my opinion, it's flawless.
Speaker 1: Every character there isn't anybody that shouldn't be in it.
Speaker 1: Everything is necessary, the way it's laid out like a
Speaker 1: graphic novel, the writing of it, the characters, Ray finds,
Speaker 1: every single piece of that movie is immaculate. It's there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it at all. It's a It's a wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful film. I think that I was going to say
Speaker 1: that with a sort of listened to my Sean McLoughlin
Speaker 1: and he was talking about it. He's just seen it
Speaker 1: this recently, and so I thought, I've already thoughts about that.
Speaker 1: But so that for me is an immaculate movie. The
Speaker 1: Dead Man's Shoes by Shame meadows next level. The twist
Speaker 1: in that To this day, I still remember the feeling
Speaker 1: when you no spoilers, but when you that twist, you're
Speaker 1: like and then you start to think back through the
Speaker 1: rest of the film, of course, but it's so wonderfully done,
Speaker 1: and I've had I've had the pleasure and have been
Speaker 1: very lucky to spoke to Stuart Wolfenden, who played Herbie
Speaker 1: that the drug dealer with the beanie hat. Heat wonderful man.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've known him years and like to
Speaker 1: the point out message of bell End has it going.
Speaker 1: But I've spoke to him about it and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he still feels out of all the things he's achieved,
Speaker 1: that to be a part of something so spectacular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just that's just it's just a it's just a
Speaker 1: perfect film. Everybody in that as well. It's brilliant. It's gritty,
Speaker 1: you can because it's filmed in Matlock sort around and
Speaker 1: it's raining and it's drizzly, and it's you could just
Speaker 1: feel so real. It's a spectacular movie. So I think
Speaker 1: dead Man Shoes for me, it's amazing that film. I
Speaker 1: think originally it was going to be a comedy. Did
Speaker 1: you know that really? I think when they first started
Speaker 1: talking about it, Paddy Constantine and same men as, it
Speaker 1: was like they were going to do like a knockerback
Speaker 1: comedy revenge film. I think yeah. And then the more
Speaker 1: they worked and it, they were like, no, they're same
Speaker 1: funny It's it's a funny moment in it with Gary
Speaker 1: Stretch when he realizes that Richard Paddy Constanine's character has
Speaker 1: been in his house. That's a funny moment. But when
Speaker 1: you talk about again, talk to Stewart Wolphan and he
Speaker 1: was saying, like the bit where when he when Hervey's
Speaker 1: in the pool in the Sluger club and he's dishing
Speaker 1: out the drugs and then and then Paddy constantly and
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, oh are you are you looking
Speaker 1: at these are nothing that goes a you're looking against you?
Speaker 1: You like it? Just that he said that that was improvised,
Speaker 1: that they didn't like they did. He would just come
Speaker 1: in and then Paddy constantly would just do stuff and
Speaker 1: that was the one that that was the one they
Speaker 1: start with. But imagine being that like that's the thing
Speaker 1: we shay medose one. What I've heard that he does
Speaker 1: like a lot of that improv and like they're just
Speaker 1: working it out as they're going along, which means which
Speaker 1: just makes it more real, isn't it. You know moments
Speaker 1: it's such a I think, Yeah, dead Man's Shoes. For me,
Speaker 1: it's the one really good shout what's the film you
Speaker 1: could or have? What's the most over and over again?
Speaker 1: The fifth element? Really I love Luke Besson. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a great film of his called Angel Angela, Angel angel A, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is a wonderful film. But the fifth element because
Speaker 1: he used like supermodels in it and things like that,
Speaker 1: people that were sort of supermodels at the time, like
Speaker 1: male and female. So he got all these weird and wonderful,
Speaker 1: incredible looking people throughout out of the film. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a one, and then Lee Evans pops up as
Speaker 1: the captain of the Yea and he's running around like
Speaker 1: you've got Bruce Willias fun around and then Lee it
Speaker 1: was just like being Lee Evans amongst it or it's
Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, Gary oldman. You know, he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's zero stones, zero crates, and it's just he's just
Speaker 1: talking to these massive like dog like creatures. Just and
Speaker 1: a bit where he's a bit here. There's a bit
Speaker 1: where he's nervous and he starts to leak his blood.
Speaker 1: But it's like black. Every detail in that film is brilliant.
Speaker 1: I just love it. I love it so much. The
Speaker 1: oppossingery spectacular. I love the other thing another another strong
Speaker 1: blue Lady, A strong blue lady. I love a strong
Speaker 1: blue Lady. That even the comedy in it as well.
Speaker 1: Everybody in that film again plays such a wonderful part
Speaker 1: of the comedy in it. The series just brilliant, so
Speaker 1: The Fifth Element. I've must have seen I don't know
Speaker 1: countless times. I love it. One I put on all
Speaker 1: the time just I just feel it just makes me
Speaker 1: feel nice when it's on. That that film, when it
Speaker 1: came out, I think was I think it was quite
Speaker 1: critically panned. I think people were like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this nonsense? And it's really held up. It comes
Speaker 1: up quite a lot of the Fifth Element people. No
Speaker 1: one's forgotten the Fifth Element, And when it came out,
Speaker 1: it was like, what is this mess? Well listening, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Luke Perry's in it, little little character, Yeah, exactly, yeah, brilliant, absolutely,
Speaker 1: brilliant character, everything in it. I think there's there's those
Speaker 1: films now and again they pop up and there's no
Speaker 1: a lot of films I've been I'm not showing off here,
Speaker 1: but I've been writing a film with someone that's been
Speaker 1: to the New York Film Academy, Like we're writing something.
Speaker 1: We just I've known her for a long time and
Speaker 1: then I just we just happened to be. She showed
Speaker 1: me a script diverse and it was I read it
Speaker 1: and it was like I'd watched the film. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, listen as you went Yeah, that's exactly, and
Speaker 1: that's amazing. And you've got any ideas, and I told
Speaker 1: this idea and so we're working on it. But my
Speaker 1: point is once you start working on it, working on behind,
Speaker 1: and see how a film because we've been working on
Speaker 1: it for months, we haven't even got to the dialogue
Speaker 1: bit yet. You've been working out the universe and why
Speaker 1: is that person in that person's world? Why are they together,
Speaker 1: what's the point, What's what's brought them together? Why would
Speaker 1: they interact with each other? Because there's so many films
Speaker 1: that you watch and you go, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: storm in the castle bit. Oh, this is the bit
Speaker 1: where all everything's lost. There's that framework, that pattern, And
Speaker 1: once you know that, pat, when you watch films as
Speaker 1: you you know, you'll be like, oh this is that bit,
Speaker 1: Oh this is that bit. Oh here we go. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all he's last. I'll wait a minute. They're all good.
Speaker 1: And it kind of ruins films for you a little bit.
Speaker 1: Every now and again, a film will come along, like
Speaker 1: the fifth Element. Well, you're so dazzled by everything that's
Speaker 1: going on, Yeah, you don't see the framework that it's following,
Speaker 1: Like three Billboards Napoleon Dynamite, those films, those two films
Speaker 1: in particular, it's like it's like you've arrived in town.
Speaker 1: Something's happened. Like in Three Billboards, you're a traveler. You've
Speaker 1: arrived in town. Something's happened before while before you got there,
Speaker 1: the whole town's talking about it, dealing with it, and
Speaker 1: then you kind of like, oh wow, else as well.
Speaker 1: And then as you're leaving town, they're off to deal
Speaker 1: with what's what's what's happened? And I love that. This
Speaker 1: is a moment in time Napoleon Dynamite. There's no reason
Speaker 1: for it. There's no reason for that film. You're just
Speaker 1: in a moment in time where you're just in this
Speaker 1: town for a bit and all this is happening, and
Speaker 1: then you leave town and that's still going on. And
Speaker 1: I love that, And that's like the fifth elament for me.
Speaker 1: It's just this is so much going on. It's just
Speaker 1: a nice, brilliant film. It's an action film, but it's
Speaker 1: just more to it, you know, let's just love it.
Speaker 1: I really like that. I really like that. We don't
Speaker 1: like to be negative, you and me. That's something i'd
Speaker 1: say about us. So we'll do this fairly quickly, what's
Speaker 1: the worst film you ever saw? Avatar? What too big
Speaker 1: a banner to get through it comfortable? I couldn't get
Speaker 1: through it. I was too turned on the actual film,
Speaker 1: the look of it. It's a good looking film, and
Speaker 1: there was so much hype about the CGI and the
Speaker 1: work and it is. I mean, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sit here and slag off the work that went into it,
Speaker 1: because it's take I understand hours and hours and hours
Speaker 1: that would have taken to do like one shot. And
Speaker 1: it's a spectacular looking film, but the story was so bad.
Speaker 1: It was so bad. There's a bit, so they're all
Speaker 1: flying around on those blue and actual things, and then
Speaker 1: she's then so the heroes there and he's talking to
Speaker 1: the girl, and then it's Orange one swoops through and
Speaker 1: she says, only four people have ever managed to to
Speaker 1: to get one of those and fly my load and
Speaker 1: I literally out loud and I'll fuck off in in
Speaker 1: half an hour's time, he was going to be riding
Speaker 1: around on an Orange one it car. Someone said to me,
Speaker 1: we need to about when was the last time you
Speaker 1: cried at a movie? I went Avatar? Qui Avatars the
Speaker 1: worst film? I'm afraid fair enough, you're excited about the
Speaker 1: seven sequels. They are on their way. What's the what's
Speaker 1: the film you're in comedy, you're a comedian, you're very funny.
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you? Rich Wilson comedian laughed
Speaker 1: the most. So when I was growing up, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of mel Brooks. So we watched Young Frankenstein Lazy
Speaker 1: and Salsbody and I know, I said, now it's not
Speaker 1: to me, it's not age very well. But when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, hysterical, absolute hysterical. But later on, one
Speaker 1: of the one film that cracked me up so much,
Speaker 1: and this would have been ten years ago, I saw
Speaker 1: it was the remake of Get Smart with Steve Carrell
Speaker 1: and it's a really it's a stupid film. It's daft,
Speaker 1: and I really like it. But Alan Arkin is one
Speaker 1: of the finest can media actors that we've ever had.
Speaker 1: I loved. The first time I became aware of him
Speaker 1: was in Freebian the Bean years ago with James Khan
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, and it's brilliant. It's such a it's
Speaker 1: not many people, You're right brought that up. I think
Speaker 1: I think it's one of his favorites, such a good film.
Speaker 1: It's a bit because James Khn's at this cool like
Speaker 1: carp and their partners, and Alan Arkin is a bit
Speaker 1: more straight laced and a bit more you know, but
Speaker 1: they work really well. Alan Arkin and gets smart. They're
Speaker 1: walking along, so it's James carn and Alan Arkin again.
Speaker 1: They've put together again, and it's so like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: together again. This is brilliant. And so James Carnt plays
Speaker 1: a president of the United States. Alan Arkin's walking they're
Speaker 1: just walking along together and James Cahn says, one of
Speaker 1: the thing is you know people with like, you know,
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs, and Alan Ark goes nuclear and he goes,
Speaker 1: what And they just carry on walking And I was
Speaker 1: on the floor for about ten it correctly it created
Speaker 1: Yeah he said nuclear when the guy said nuclear, and
Speaker 1: it just I couldn't breathe. I couldn't breathe. So that
Speaker 1: and a bit where they're going through the golf course
Speaker 1: and then they crash into this thing and this plastic
Speaker 1: swordfish goes through the windscreen and therely it's had an
Speaker 1: Arkin in the head. And then Steve grow goes, You're
Speaker 1: thinking what I'm thinking? And he says, if you're thinking,
Speaker 1: holy shit, holy shit, a plastic nearly went from my head. Then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny, so funny. Ad An Arkin in everything
Speaker 1: he's ever done. Yeah, he's a spectacular actor, and so
Speaker 1: for that reason gets smart. He's one of the funniest
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen, just for him. Brilliant, brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rich Wilson, you've been wonderful, of course, no surprise there, however,
Speaker 1: Oh no, you were fifty years old yesterday. You had
Speaker 1: a lovely birthday. Your sons were round one corner and
Speaker 1: they said good night Dad, and then they ran really
Speaker 1: last random block. I'm surprised you at the other corner.
Speaker 1: A lovely time. You ate lots of food, You have
Speaker 1: a lovely time, all the drinks, did the pills you've
Speaker 1: been holding on too. And then you went to bed
Speaker 1: and you went to sleep, and you slept, walked and
Speaker 1: you slept, walked down outside, and outside there was a
Speaker 1: crane delivering the piano you'd ordered for your fiftieth because
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm going to take up a new
Speaker 1: hobby piano. Weirdly, the way they were going to get
Speaker 1: this piano in was through the first floor window, so
Speaker 1: they brought a crane quite an operation for this piano.
Speaker 1: But it was your fiftieth. Don't making an effort, and
Speaker 1: they were late. It was two in the morning, but
Speaker 1: they'd promised you they'd get it to you on your birthday. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you wander out the front door, fast asleep, and you
Speaker 1: just stood there and the person man in the crane said, oh,
Speaker 1: is it your birthday today? And the person next we
Speaker 1: went it is. I've just taken the thing. He took
Speaker 1: his hands off the leavers. Clap clap for your birthday.
Speaker 1: Piano straight down, crushed you in sunny crushed by piano.
Speaker 1: You just see my feet sticking out, Yeah, like the
Speaker 1: wicked Witch of the West. Yeah, very cool shoes sticking
Speaker 1: out and strip you pajamas. And I was walking past
Speaker 1: because I was late. I was going to come with
Speaker 1: you Happy birthday, and I've got a coffin with me,
Speaker 1: and there you are, Sparko under the piano. I'm like
Speaker 1: fucking out, and the delivery guys they've scarpered because they're like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't look good for us. You're now half piano, halfman.
Speaker 1: Your head is like crushed into the strings inside the piano.
Speaker 1: So I've had to I've got an accause I'm chopping
Speaker 1: up the piano. Inside the piano, is you sliced into
Speaker 1: bits through the fucking strings of the piano. Your head
Speaker 1: you've melt merged with it. I hit a couple of
Speaker 1: the keys. It goes bart but in your voice, bop
Speaker 1: your mouth keys, and I'm like, fucking alse I have
Speaker 1: to chop you up, chopping up, have to slice off
Speaker 1: bits of fucking string. Anyway. I put all of you
Speaker 1: in the coffin. But there's a bit. It's a piano.
Speaker 1: There's bits of crane, there's bits of chains and stuff.
Speaker 1: There's your jamas, there's door, it's concrete, everything in the
Speaker 1: in the coffin. I've done everything I can, but it
Speaker 1: is rammed in there. It's full to the brim. There's
Speaker 1: really only enough room for me to stick one DVD
Speaker 1: into the side of the coffin and then push you
Speaker 1: across to the other side. And on the other side.
Speaker 1: It's movie night every night. What film are you taking
Speaker 1: to show the people of heaven when it is your
Speaker 1: movie night? Rich Wilson, please gotta be the fifth element?
Speaker 1: Has to be. What a lovely choice. Yeah, no one's
Speaker 1: brought it. They were in for a treat. I think
Speaker 1: they'll I think they'll love it. It's got everything you need.
Speaker 1: It's got humor, it's got violence, it's got everything style.
Speaker 1: It's a very stylish film, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: great nod to the late great Luke Perry. It's a
Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Well a lovely answer, Rich Wilson, Is there
Speaker 1: anything you would like to tell people to listen to watch?
Speaker 1: Look out for go to. I would like you all
Speaker 1: to listen to my podcast, Insane in the Membrane, where
Speaker 1: it's we had men talking about their feelings. We've also
Speaker 1: got you saying in the fem Brain, where I speak
Speaker 1: to women about what it's like to be a woman,
Speaker 1: because as a man of the seventies and eighties, didn't
Speaker 1: really know. We weren't really told these things. And now
Speaker 1: I'm finding out, you know, And that sounds clunky to
Speaker 1: say it that way, but I've had some wonderful guests.
Speaker 1: We've also had Insane in the Den Brain because I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I'd never spoke to anybody that identifies as
Speaker 1: non binary before, so I didn't really know that. So
Speaker 1: we spoke to the Insane in the den Brain. We've
Speaker 1: had wonderful guests. We've had heston Blooming Tile, David Thedeal,
Speaker 1: so many, so many wonderful guests, and so yeah, it's
Speaker 1: sort of available on all podcast channels, So tuck in.
Speaker 1: There's so much to get into and go and see
Speaker 1: Rich Wilson did stand up? Come? I see me do
Speaker 1: stand up. I will be in a venue near you.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it. I've got all dates. I've got a website,
Speaker 1: Rich Wilson Comedy. Go and have a look at that.
Speaker 1: All the dates will be up on there. Rich Wilson,
Speaker 1: what a treat to spend time with you. Thank you
Speaker 1: for your time. Thank a wonderful and good day to you.
Speaker 1: So cheers, Brett. Thanks mate. So that was episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four. Head over to patreon dot com
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Speaker 1: listen to it. But what I want you to do
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Thank you so much to rich for
Speaker 1: doing the show. Thanks to Scrubs, Pip and the distraction
Speaker 1: pieces of Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to ac Us for hosting it. Thanks to Adam
Speaker 1: Richardson for the graphics at least a load them for
Speaker 1: the photography. Come and join me next week for another
Speaker 1: brilliant guest. But in the meantime, I hope you're all well.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for listening. I hope things are
Speaker 1: good and you're all safe and all that have a
Speaker 1: lovely week, and please, now more than ever, be excellent
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