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Speaker 1: Host of Ota pocket RG three's podcast, Fox Sports NFL

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Speaker 1: eight years in the NFL. The Heisman Trophy winner Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy just had a very emotional press conference. He got

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Speaker 1: you know, they say you can't go home again. It

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Speaker 1: looked like he was a very happy guy. So let's

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Speaker 1: talk to it's official today, Joe Brady. Now, I think

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Speaker 1: he may be the youngest coach in the league. With

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's not the hot coach on the market.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have a huge resume. He's in the building.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting both the Steelers and the Bills hired

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Speaker 1: somebody they were comfortable with that doesn't know us make

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Speaker 1: the best coach. So let's start with Brady in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: What is your take on that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle, I think when you look at Joe Brady

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo, the Bills are admitting to us in real

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Speaker 3: time that they don't think that.

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Speaker 4: The issue is physical there. They think it's psychological.

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Speaker 3: So they wanted to bring in someone with a new voice,

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Speaker 3: but also give Josh Allen the stable ecosystem around the

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Speaker 3: offense that he has been running and has found extreme

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Speaker 3: success in. You look at Brady, you look at Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 4: You look at Drew Brees, all the greats.

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Speaker 3: In this game, they consistently have the same offense for ten,

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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty years. And I think Josh Allen just

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Speaker 3: has to not play his worst game in the biggest

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Speaker 3: game of the year, and the Buffalo Bills can continue

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Speaker 3: to eliminate the self inflicted wounds, build a better defense

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Speaker 3: around him, and get some offensive weapons to help him

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Speaker 3: go and really achieve the dream of winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But there's a trend right now in the NFL hiring cycle,

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Speaker 3: and you were spot on. It's more about comfortability and

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Speaker 3: less about just all the crazy offensive minds that are

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Speaker 3: your locker room falling apart.

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Speaker 1: So McCarthy, listen, Pittsburgh fans didn't love the news, But

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Speaker 1: after he cries at the press conference, very emotional. It'll

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Speaker 1: probably I mean, let's be honest, for the next forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours, people are going to be on the Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy trade in Pittsburgh. He loves the city, and I

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Speaker 1: totally get it. It's when somebody loves you, you love

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Speaker 1: him back. That's the reality. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: the move?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm with the fans before the press conference.

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Speaker 3: Hiring Mike McCarthy is to me, just about making sure

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Speaker 3: that the Steelers don't bottom out. You're coming off of

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, who had nineteen straight years without a losing record.

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Speaker 3: A losing season, should I say so. Mike McCarthy, at

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Speaker 3: a minimum should be able to continue that trend. But

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Speaker 3: it doesn't scream to the fan base or really to

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're here to win a super Bowl right now.

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Speaker 3: It does feel like the Steelers are fine with just

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Speaker 3: winning enough games staying relevant because Mike Tomlin, when he

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Speaker 3: That was the biggest issue I had with with Mike

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Speaker 3: their identity was what it's always been with Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for him that that he's excited to be

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Speaker 1: All right, let's we have some McCarthy sound. Robert will

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Speaker 1: play this, play the sound we have on McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: So oftentimes coaches and players, you know, you put on

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Speaker 5: new team colors and it takes it takes a minute

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Speaker 5: I understand and embrace the responsibility the privilege in the

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Speaker 5: Because Pittsburgh's my world and it's just awesome to be

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Speaker 1: That's about as emotional as you get for a head coach,

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Speaker 1: is it not? So? I mean again, I think that

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Speaker 1: Could I argue this the best thing about McCarthy. This

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Speaker 1: organization has been leaning defense since the seventies, and it's like, finally, McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Robert, it's ridiculous. They've led the NFL defensive

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Speaker 1: spending four straight years. Could I argue McCarthy will at

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Speaker 1: least pivot the organization to spending more money on offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a Colin, I agree with you. I think you will.

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Speaker 3: And when you listen to that sound, it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: it's really hard to hate to hate the move right,

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Speaker 3: but but I still understand the lack of excitement around it.

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Speaker 3: But there's one thing that McCarthy is going to do,

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Speaker 3: and that is they're going to put up points. They're

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Speaker 3: going to be a top ten offense. Uh, They're going

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Speaker 3: biggest question you have to ask, which everyone's already asking,

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Speaker 3: what is Aaron Rodgers going to do?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: This is a guy that many might say kind of

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Speaker 3: got McCarthy out of Green Bay. Yeah, so what he

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Speaker 3: decided to stay another year, to stay in Pittsburgh with

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Speaker 4: Give it one more hurrah.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you're working with Will Howard and as you said,

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Speaker 3: a somewhat weak quarterback class this year in the draft.

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Speaker 3: So it's a difficult situation for Mike. But they do

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Speaker 3: you know, they got DK Metcalf there. They've got some

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Speaker 1: Well. As a former quarterback, I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about Sean Payton going forward on fourth and one, And

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Speaker 1: The analytics said Sean should have kicked a field goal,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't like ninety ten. It was kind of close,

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Speaker 1: And the analytics said McVeigh should have gone forty dead,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight. So again, I tend to be like offensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: They want they've got their play calls, and they're like

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Speaker 3: I think they both bothered me, Colin, and I'm pro

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Speaker 4: I'm just anti ego.

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Speaker 3: And right now the problem isn't like coaches going for

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Speaker 3: going forward on fourth down is almost looked at like

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Speaker 4: A right, like you if you don't go forward on

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Speaker 3: Like there's an old phrase, Colin of like Mama ain't

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Speaker 3: raised no right. Everyone knows how to finish that phrase,

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Speaker 3: but this is not the time to sing it. In

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Speaker 3: my opinion, when you're in games like the AFC Championship

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Speaker 3: you have to take the points.

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Speaker 4: Take the points. It's it's all about momentum.

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Speaker 3: I know there's some people that believe momentum is a myth.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I know. If I'm on a.

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Speaker 3: Drive and we're up seven to nothing and we kick

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Speaker 3: So I look at Sean Payton's decision and it just

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Speaker 4: But they went for it, didn't.

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Speaker 1: Well, the airth thing is, you know the air thing

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Speaker 1: Peyton and McVeigh, but I also said this, it's fourth

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Speaker 1: and one in Denver with a great word. When it's

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Speaker 1: I have a long history with Sam Darnold and believing

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Speaker 1: I always felt this with Andrew Luck they're both a

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Speaker 1: Right before Sam's resurgence, how did you view It's easy

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Speaker 3: I did not think that Sam Donald was going to

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Speaker 3: going to bottom out Colin. I think what we realized

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Speaker 1: Robert Great Seniors Olha has been man, great work.

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Speaker 7: Big news of the day is Joe Brady, the OC

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know if he's Jesse mintor may

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Speaker 7: He has officially been hired as the Chargers offensive cordator.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, all.

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Speaker 7: I think, no confident he's got the puffy jacket.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is going to be a home run, Collin.

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Speaker 7: Final story, let's talk about the Lakers. You got them

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Speaker 1: the NFL has over the NBA is that in the

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Speaker 1: NFL you can go from awful to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Patriots or another example, because you get seven to eight

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Speaker 1: to nine to ten players in the draft. Many are

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Speaker 1: grown men ready to contribute because you have to stay

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Speaker 1: in college minimum three years. So I mean, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: this year have like five rookies who are huge. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are the second young youngest team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They have a bunch of kids. In the NBA, you

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Speaker 1: get like two picks. One's a second rounder who at

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Speaker 1: best is at the end of your bench. And maybe

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Speaker 1: let's say even if you're a bad team and get

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Speaker 1: the fifth pick, he's a good player, but he's one

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Speaker 1: year in college. Then he's nineteen twenty years old. He's

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Speaker 1: not close to changing outcomes of games. So even Wemby

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Speaker 1: came into the league, were like best prospect ever. Game restrictions,

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Speaker 1: minute restrictions got injured. Chet Holmgren great player. Minute restrictions

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Speaker 1: got banged up. So the advantage of the NFL has

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Speaker 1: over the NBA. When you're bad in the NBA, you're

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Speaker 1: limited on the trades you can make. Salaries have to

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Speaker 1: match up when you're bad in the end. How long

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Speaker 1: have the Wizards been bad? Forever? Forever the Commanders were bad,

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Speaker 1: they get a new owner. The next year they're in

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Speaker 1: the conference championship. You can't do that in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: And so the NFL is a league of hope and

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Speaker 1: the NBA feels like a league of hopeless. Well, a

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Speaker 1: team like Chicago, Yeah, if.

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Speaker 7: You get a top look at all, how the all

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Speaker 7: the best teams are built right through the draft. Look

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Speaker 7: at what the Spurs did quickly drafting Wemby, drafting casts,

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Speaker 7: Phil Kicks, Jamal Murray, all the best teams. I know,

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Speaker 7: the Lakers are unique because they trade for Shack.

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Speaker 1: The Spurs since drafting Wemby forty games under five hundred.

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Speaker 7: Well, he missed a lot of time with the blood clots.

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Speaker 7: You can't you know, I know they did trade for

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Speaker 7: dearon Fox. But the Celtics Tatum and Brown through the draft.

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Speaker 7: You look at the Pacers, Haliburton through the draft.

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Speaker 4: You've got to.

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Speaker 7: Nail that top ten pick, just like you gotta nail

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Speaker 7: a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Jmck with the news. Well that's the.

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Speaker 4: News, and thanks for stopping.

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Speaker 8: That, the herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting though, watching Lebron last night, I had

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Speaker 1: said this at the top of the hour. He came

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Speaker 1: out and played a really good first quarter, first half,

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Speaker 1: really good, and you know, it reminds me of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't retire because he couldn't play. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: probably was tired of the off seasons. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's grueling, the practice, the intensity. You don't have much

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Speaker 1: of a life outside of about three weeks in the

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Speaker 1: off season, maybe six weeks. You know, Aaron Rodgers goes

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Speaker 1: and hides. That's fine. That's not really Brady's personality. He's

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Speaker 1: a grindery as a broadcaster, as a player. So you

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Speaker 1: have to really commit to the off season. And with Lebron,

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Speaker 1: it's not about Lebron not loving basketball or not being

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Speaker 1: what are his numbers this year? Watching him last night

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Speaker 1: in the first half, Now he can't do it for

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Speaker 1: forty minutes anymore. But when Lebron, he's in Chicago. Lebron

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Speaker 1: knows New York Chicago. You know, the last time Chicago's

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Speaker 1: gets to see him it's a sold out game. Lebron

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Speaker 1: knows he can put on a little bit of a show.

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Speaker 1: He was the best player along with Luke on the floor.

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Speaker 1: And he's still cut his body, he can still bully

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Speaker 1: his way to twenty points a game, brilliant passer, and

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Speaker 1: great ball handler. So just watching him play last night,

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Speaker 1: it's like Lebron could get twenty for another four years

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Speaker 1: because he is so physically strong, and the league is young,

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Speaker 1: and it frankly it's young and skinny, and Lebron's just

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Speaker 1: so physically powerful that I watched them last night. My guys,

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Speaker 1: his forties, Lebron in four years from now could give

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Speaker 1: you eighteen points. He couldn't give you forty minutes. He

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Speaker 1: could get you eighteen points. So Lebron right now is

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Speaker 1: averaging twenty two, six and six, one of the five

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Speaker 1: players in the league averaging those numbers. Twenty points in

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Speaker 1: the first half last night, and one of the best

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Speaker 1: dumps he's had in the last couple of years. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you sit and watch him and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's still There are so many young the

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Speaker 1: NBA now has got so many young players and so

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Speaker 1: many players that just can't physically match up with Lebron

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Speaker 1: and he still beats guys off the dribble. It's very

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Speaker 1: much Brady. Brady retired to the personal stuff. Lebron may

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Speaker 1: just retire because like the the you know, Lakers have

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Speaker 1: new owners. They're not going to him be extension. But

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Speaker 1: Brady could have been a top six quarterback two years

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Speaker 1: ago and Lebron is still bulling his way to twenty

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Speaker 1: point halves. Bulls aren't very good defensively, but you get

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Speaker 1: the point. Nick right, RG three stopped by Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Listen when people cry at a press conference, you know

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Speaker 1: it's hard not to root for him. So if Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers comes back, I'll say it right now, they'll win

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Speaker 1: ten games. They're not going any playoff games. Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: gonna get Mahome some help. And I think a really

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Speaker 1: interesting story is what's Lamar gonna do. Lamar wants to

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Speaker 1: be the highest paid quarterback, good luck, not saying he

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Speaker 1: doesn't deserve it. Stafford's gonna want more money, good luck.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to move off some of these really

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Speaker 1: really high end rams players. See you tomorrow,