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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast as the Faith Post. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room fellow heroes, Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling, and Greg

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Speaker 1: GROLs a doll. What's up, boys and girls. I'm just

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Speaker 1: so happy I don't have to do that weird awkward

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Speaker 1: way to do that? Anyway? Just an awkward ice? So

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it. There you go and awkward ice, and

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Speaker 1: then I do want it needs. It's weird if you

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to the podcast on the way to work,

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Speaker 1: or if you're pumping iron and you want to see

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Speaker 1: an awkward ice. So check out YouTube dot com where

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Speaker 1: you can watch this whole episode. You can see Colleen

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Speaker 1: trying your best to overcome the awkwardness. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't really, it's weird. The Wolf Wolf Woman. You

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Speaker 1: usually sit in with us for a portion of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but with Mark Sessler in London with Connor Or and

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to them a little bit later

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Speaker 1: via the phone, you're gonna sit in the entire show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I wouldn't I would imagine there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of nerves coursing through you right now. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all. A little butterflies in the old stone much.

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Speaker 1: I did have a cookie before I came up here,

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Speaker 1: so maybe that's what that is. But yeah, no, I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: Is it true that you swallowed tobacco juice on your

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Speaker 1: way to the studio? I was questionable before the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but I did play okay, So Colleen is here. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us. A very busy day on Sunday. Colin,

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Speaker 1: You're on the NFL Game Day Blitz Couch Show with

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Speaker 1: Dave Danna Check. How's that going? NFL now Game Day Blitz.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Um, we did all sorts of stuff today.

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Speaker 1: We got up, walked around a little bit and that

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Speaker 1: was good. That's called exploring the space in the studio. Huh.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. And then um, David nichol Uh he

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Speaker 1: brought his son over dressed as a football and Check

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Speaker 1: kicked a field goal with him. That sounds but thence

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Speaker 1: the litigious But it was fine. Dave's great with kids.

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Speaker 1: So this is our Sunday Night, our flagship show. I

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Speaker 1: like to call it Chris as you know, our weekly

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Speaker 1: recap this one week seven. Hubba hubba. We are rolling

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Speaker 1: and we got a big show this week, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna lot of games to get to, but none bigger

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Speaker 1: than the showdown the a f C East between the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots and my New York Jets. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. It was. It didn't live up to the expectations.

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Speaker 1: It was a very good game, maybe not the ending

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Speaker 1: that I wanted. Greg, a little different you've recovered though,

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Speaker 1: it was a little awkward. Well, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: Get to that, um. As I said, Mark and Connor

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Speaker 1: from London, we're gonna get them on the phone talk

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Speaker 1: about both the game the Bills and Jaguars played of

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Speaker 1: course early this morning. Uh, and the big tweet up

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Speaker 1: at a London pub where I've been told an estimate

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Speaker 1: That would be crazy. You're disappointed, as it was great.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing more. And then finally, Andrew

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Speaker 1: all the stuff we're gonna get to add a lot more.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we get going. We'll start yes at

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Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium, where the Patriots, yes remain big brother in

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Speaker 1: the ABC East. Tom Brady led New England on two

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Speaker 1: but Tom Brady still exists. And that's the difference in

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Speaker 1: this rivalry it's been It's not Rex Ryan's fault, or

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have perhaps the greatest quarterback ever still in

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Speaker 1: In this case, it was the Jets turn getting two

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Speaker 1: was thinking Tom Brady was declining in two thousand and twelve.

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Speaker 1: It was like three years ago when we when we

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Speaker 1: yet he's he's really throwing a perfect game right now

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Speaker 1: by the way, you needed to get away, experience something new,

428
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: take him out of the rut, and the Christian tedium

429
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: of life won't hit him hard at all when he

430
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: gets back. Oh no, no, no no, And he's grinding

431
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: out hamstring injury reports on Thursday, But forget about that

432
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: in the now. You're still in London, and that's what

433
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into. We'll start with the game, of course,

434
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: the bills and Jaguars, a big Jaguars victory. UM that

435
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: we'll get it to you guys are at the stadium

436
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: at Wembley covering, and we also want to, of course

437
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: talk about the tweet up that you guys had had

438
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: at a pub in London Town. So let's save that

439
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: for them. Let's talk about the game first. And this

440
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: is a game, of course, guys that the Jaguars jumped

441
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: out to seven to three lead, UM almost lost all

442
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: of it. In fact, uh, they did lose the lead

443
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: late in the game, but then a late touchdown drive

444
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: final score thirty four thirty one Jaguars over the injury

445
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: deplated Bills, depleted Bills. What were you guys seeing live

446
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: from Wembley, Well, I mean, you know the Jaguars locker room.

447
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean you'd expect it to be like a little

448
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: bit down because they were up twenty seven to three,

449
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: but everyone was elated. There were guys dancing in front

450
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: of the cameras and there were people going nuts because

451
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, the stents that I got from everybody was like,

452
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: let's just win a game and figure it out. Like,

453
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, we have all twenty three twenty two year

454
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: old kids, let's just try to get one and then

455
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll move on. Well, they've only won

456
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: eleven since they fired Jack del Rio and they're only

457
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: one game out of first place. So as bad as

458
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: it was when they lost that lead and they finally

459
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: needed to drive, they did come up with one that

460
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing. You know. I talked to like

461
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: one one of the players who had kind of been

462
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: there for a little bit longer, and uh, he said

463
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 1: that Blake's throw took some serious The quote was like

464
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: serious balls or something like that, because onions right right, Uh,

465
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: he'd thrown like an awful pick six, like two drives

466
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: or three gives before that, and was like another deep

467
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: route was across his body and he nailed it the

468
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: great b Then again, we might be talking about how

469
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: the Jaguars completely self destructed, and Boardles was a huge

470
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: reason why, if not for a very shaky penalty call. Mark,

471
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: I know you were in the Bills locker room and

472
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: they weren't too fired up about that. Well, no, I

473
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: think that, you know, across the board, you know, Nicol

474
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: Robie was sitting in this locker. You know. The one

475
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: thing the difference between the Jags locker room and the

476
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Bills was in the Buffalo room. They got out of

477
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: there about as fast as possible and they were out

478
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: in the hallway taking you know, personal pizzas to a

479
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: bust that was getting them out of the country. This

480
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: one completely what they were planning. And you know they

481
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Speaker 1: that call. Was that call changed the game. I think

482
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Speaker 1: they would have they would have iced it had the

483
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, with the third and fifteen, Roby gets nailed

484
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: with the p I seventeen yard flag. New life for

485
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and it completely changed. All week long, all

486
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: the Bills talked about was the favorable matchup against the

487
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: bad team, get to four and three, get to your

488
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: bye week, get healthy, and you know, kill some of

489
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: these narratives that have played Rex Ryan this season. Everything

490
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: went opposite. Rex didn't even seem angry after the after

491
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: the game. He just seemed completely utterly exhausted. I'm sure

492
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: he's drained again because he knows that it's his defense

493
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: that ended up losing this game. And if you're if

494
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan, you've you've seen this before. Besides Jet,

495
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan is known for his defense, and you know,

496
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: there's been some very good defenses in his NFL career.

497
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: But it's not the first time the Jet Rex Ryan

498
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: defense is blown a lead on the final drive of

499
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: the game. Sometimes his defenses can't close, and that's what

500
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: happened today. Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of

501
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: those things that you know, Rex his defense is going

502
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: to eventually. You know, he always says it's kind of

503
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: an unwritten book, and you know it's it's constantly evolving.

504
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: But clearly something's broken here. I mean, you know when

505
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: the players are complaining about it. When Jim Kelly, who's done,

506
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, everything he could to support Rex Ryan is

507
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: go going out at charity events and bashing the defense.

508
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think that time to maybe,

509
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: you know, take take a spare moment and really just

510
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: to kind of take a look in the mirror and

511
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: see what you're doing on defense. Although e J, let's

512
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: be honest, EJ. Manuel lost in the game. The defense

513
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: they the Bills turned the ball over four times, and

514
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense played more than well enough to win

515
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: for this game until that last drive. I mean, the EJ,

516
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: that six minutes mark you wrote about it was just

517
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: one of the six craziest minutes we've seen all season.

518
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: It went from three nothing to to three in six minutes. Yeah,

519
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: and I think you know the fans. The takeaway with

520
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: the fans at Wembley is they you know, I think

521
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: when this series started way back, when they would get

522
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: most excited about an extra point, there are much savvy

523
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: or crowd, and I think they recognized that they were

524
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: watching a quarterback completely collapsed. I mean it was, it

525
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: was one. It was it happened all in eight plays

526
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: and and it was for all this bizarre narrative about

527
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: how EJ. Manual is seen as the better are option

528
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: than Tyrod Taylor and there's a sneaky thing where they

529
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: want to happen to be a starter that needs to

530
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: absolutely go away. I think it will. I think it's

531
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: safe to say. Rex said after the game he's a

532
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: confident and e J. Manuel was the backup quarterback, Wells

533
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. That's because their third quarterback was on

534
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: a different team a week ago. I mean, what's gonna Also,

535
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: I wish you weren't a liar. I'm I'm sure Rex

536
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: Ryan's lying. Yeah, I hated that we were talking about

537
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: the game. What was it like like before the game,

538
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: you guys were walking around and everything like that in

539
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the pre game and all that. Yeah, I mean it

540
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: was it was totally cool. I mean there was such

541
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: like a tailgating atmosphere. I mean there were streets just

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: like flooded with people, um, you know, drinking, and like

543
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: there was like a waffle place that you could like

544
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: get waffles before the game. Like that was really cool

545
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: and uh like everybody, Like there were guys like we

546
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: had a podcast listener calling like across he was like

547
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: two hundred yards above us, and then two seconds later

548
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking and he arrived out of

549
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: breath to just take a picture. Like it was super amazing.

550
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there were just some of the coolest people.

551
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that transitions nicely to the second reason for

552
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: this call, which is Saturday night, Uh, your meet up

553
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: at a local pub in London with some of our

554
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: loyal and some extremely loyal around the NFL listeners who

555
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: met up with you guys, and you know, we were

556
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: getting some dispatches throughout the evening back in l A.

557
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: But tell us a little bit about that. It sounds

558
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: like quite a scene. Yeah, I mean we were. We

559
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: were blown away because Connor and I, you know, after

560
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: after going to the game yesterday, the soccer game made

561
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: our way over this pub was the match, correct, I'm

562
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: still learning you know this. This was just a block

563
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: off where the NFL on regients, the major party that

564
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: went on all all day long happened and we didn't

565
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: know what to expect. I think we were thinking, you

566
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: know what, we've guaranteed the like ten people show up

567
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: and they'll be awesome, We'll have a great time, will

568
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: sit at a big table. And we walked into this quaint,

569
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: rather small pub and it was absolutely bursting with podcast

570
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: listeners and it was we were stunned and and and

571
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: then I did not see Connor again for five plus

572
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: hours because the two of us were at either end

573
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: of this bar bar just having great conversations with these

574
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: and you said it, they are loyal and they were

575
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: absolutely asking questions about every one of you guys. They

576
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: knew everything they want to know about Dan Hansis's hair.

577
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: They were asking if the boss is an authority, authoritary figure,

578
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: because where if he's a friend behind the scenes, and

579
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: West is everyone and up to about the island that

580
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: West came from, and what it's like to go out

581
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: for beers with West. It was unbelievable. And Patra's body too.

582
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Patrick the people knew about David Eally, the NFL dot

583
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: com editor, were asking questions about his dog and all

584
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: this other business. Wow, I don't even know that has

585
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: a dog. It sounds like you guys were you guys

586
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: were like the Beatles in nineteen sixty three. You were

587
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: you were flying high. Let's admit it, Mark after you

588
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: left there and in a good way, and when you

589
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: left there, and describe your own emotions after you left

590
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: that bar that night. We were just a band who

591
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: made it very, very big. Honestly though, that means that

592
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: had to be like, uh, you know, pretty surreal. It

593
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: was one of my my sister's boyfriend came over to

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: and just to say high because he lives in London,

595
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: and he saw like this line people like taking pictures

596
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: with us, and he was just like, what the heck

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: is going on? Like what is this? You know? It

598
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was one of the coolest things ever

599
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I've ever been a part of. Wow, it's wild because

600
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like if we did that in l

601
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: a would any but it would care. We got I

602
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: think eight to ten people for sure, But yeah, that

603
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: is the great thing about this podcast is that we

604
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: do have listeners literally all around the world, but um,

605
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: the UK audience has been so great to us from

606
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Like I'm I'm talking when it was

607
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: just the A t L Debate Club, there was an

608
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: immediate connection. So this, you know, hopefully we all eventually

609
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: get over there and get to experience it and meet people.

610
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: But this sounds like, uh, you know, a great meeting

611
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: between human beings West and this is what this is

612
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: what it's all about, that interaction West, That's what I'm

613
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm I was gonna say, I'm a little jealous.

614
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of Mark and Connor that they got

615
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: to have that experience and I hope to do it

616
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: myself some day. Yeah, I would. I would say that,

617
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: like one one thing that they were what we were

618
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: doing mostly was answering questions about the entire group and

619
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: the and the one thing people want to probably in

620
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: America would say, well, people in London don't know they're football.

621
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: They're they're probably just complete naive, absolutely not the truth.

622
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Like you could walk into an American bar and that

623
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: would be left football knowledge. And what we dealt with

624
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: last night, these guys are literally upset us with the game,

625
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: and we were having great conversations and the questions they

626
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: were asking were like tough to answer in some cases.

627
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they're plugged in, very awesome, asking out pro

628
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: football focus, rankings and things of that nature. Well, as

629
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: the night went on, there was less of there was

630
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: less analytical talk and that and that, Uh, that takes

631
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: us to the final question I guess I have, which

632
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: is um uh Connor or Mark Sessler better friends or

633
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: best friends? The best friends? We're we're actually getting an

634
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: apartment together, and we're we're cutting off all ties with

635
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: everyone in the US. Well, you guys can hang out

636
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: and your untucked plaid shirts together forever. Well, it was

637
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: a little street that we wandered down after the soccer game,

638
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: and there's beautiful little apartments. And I texted Simon and

639
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: I basically said, you just start packing those boxes because

640
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: we are getting out of the US. We're done with

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Speaker 1: America by bye. This is gonna be a crash back

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Speaker 1: in l A. No. I like it. When I first

643
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Speaker 1: got the text, I thought, well, maybe we can do

644
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: like Men and Blazers in reverse. We gotta get some

645
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: UK company. Sorry, NFL maybe they'll send us over there.

646
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: We can go over be a show over there, just

647
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: like the men in Blazers. Well it's here to talk soccer,

648
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: we go over there to talk football. Jimi Hendrix broke

649
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: in uh England in the UK before he broke in America.

650
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Maybe we could be the Hendricks of sports podcast. I

651
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: like where this is going. I think there's something too

652
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Hendrix model ends poorly. So this is like David Hasselhoff

653
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: been huge in Germany. Or all right, Connor, Mark, I

654
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: know you have flights, Connor back to your haunted mansion,

655
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: Mark back to your invisible prison here in southern California.

656
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: So travel safely. What's that he said? Not true? Travel safely?

657
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: And U that sounds like a great trip and a

658
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: good adventure. And we can't wait to see you guys.

659
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Cheers you guys. All right, So there you go. Colleen

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Speaker 1: obviously not part of that. No, not I wasn't you

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Speaker 1: do have ties yourself to England? Yeah? I studied abroad there,

662
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Speaker 1: so I lived there for like four months. I didn't

663
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Speaker 1: know this awesome. But the exchange the exchange rate was

664
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Speaker 1: crazy at that time, so, I mean the pound was

665
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Speaker 1: like it was so expensive to do anything, So I

666
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't really get to do a whole lot. So you're

667
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: you're not a fan of London. Oh I loved it.

668
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Speaker 1: It was great. But I did go surfing in the

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Speaker 1: Irish Sea. That happened. Yeah, I went co steering and

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Speaker 1: hiking whales. Yeah. Co steering is like um cliff jumping.

671
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Speaker 1: And also it's like there's all these crazy rock formations,

672
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Speaker 1: so you climb up and then we're jumping off ruins

673
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: and it's the craziest. Yeah. Pretty bad. Anyone surfing on

674
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Speaker 1: Saturday here in Southern I did. And actually, and I'm

675
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: just realizing it at this moment, the last time I

676
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Speaker 1: had surfed before yesterday was in the r C. All Right,

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00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: we got it. You're exotic and do exciting things and

678
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: you're active, and it doesn't it doesn't like people that

679
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Speaker 1: go to other Not only doesn't like to go to

680
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: other countries himself, he doesn't like hearing stories about narrative

681
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: is getting tiresome. I love the world. They were just

682
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: for our podcast Mark, you know, he texts themone, Hey,

683
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: we're moving over to London. You know, I love I

684
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Speaker 1: would love London too, But you know that picture looked

685
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Speaker 1: pretty gloomy. I'll take l a. I was on the

686
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: beach as well, eight five degrees yesterday in week seven,

687
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Mark and Connor looked great. By the way, in that

688
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: photo where they should have been holding hands almost it

689
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: was perfect. This really is the show if you have

690
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Speaker 1: not watched the podcast on Sunday Night yet on YouTube,

691
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: this is the show because between Colleen Bhill, which helps

692
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Speaker 1: on a number of levels for us, and then on

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Speaker 1: top of it you get to see the photo as well.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. Please watch us. You can see

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Speaker 1: that little creek that they call the River Thames too.

696
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: Not impressed with that river. Shots fired. All right, let's

697
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: get back to the games. Let's move it to the

698
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: NFC where Teddy Bridgewater through for three sixteen yards and

699
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Speaker 1: two scores and the Vikings sack Matthew Stafford seven times

700
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: nineteen win over the Lions. Colleen, the lines had an

701
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: eleven point lead in this game. The hell went wrong.

702
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: The offensive line that went wrong, that's important. I mean

703
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: they had a season high Minneapolis died or. Minnesota had

704
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: seven sacks in this game, and Detroit they hadn't allowed

705
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: that many all season long. So the offensive line completely imploded.

706
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Stafford actually needed X rays after the game that it

707
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: was fine. Um. But on the other side of things,

708
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: we saw guys like Stefon Diggs again have another great game.

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00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, if he could play the Lions

710
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: all the time, that would be great for him. He

711
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: had an awesome game for him also a p Well,

712
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: he didn't end up being six, so that's good. He

713
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: played the best part. So yes. The story, and we

714
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: we kind of hinted at it earlier in the podcast,

715
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: was that on the flight into Detroit it was a

716
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: bumpy flight and Adrian Peterson and kids, you should not

717
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: do this because it's gross and also dangerous for you.

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: He takes dip the chew then he swallowed it. Disaccording

719
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Speaker 1: to the reporting the telecast, he swallowed it when they

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Speaker 1: hit a bump or when they were landing. His story

721
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Speaker 1: is that it was some shellfish that he ate that

722
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Speaker 1: led to a reaction. He doesn't know where the tobacco

723
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Speaker 1: story came from. But here's what if I were him,

724
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would say to like, what what

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Speaker 1: tobacco story? No, no, no chew, it was just seafood

726
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: to swallowing dip. I've been doing it for ten years.

727
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: I feel happened. Well, this did come up in the

728
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: newsroom and there was a foreign baseball player that was like, well,

729
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: some people do swallow the dip, and I was like,

730
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: appropriately baseball. For years, I've never met anybody who on purpose.

731
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I share this story on the

732
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: podcast before, but I'll do it real quick. I used

733
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: to go to all my dad's softball games on Sunday

734
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: mornings as a boy. At one time there was this guy,

735
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: like a guy trying to be a cool guy, had

736
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Speaker 1: a big wad in his mouth and he's pitching, and

737
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: he accidentally swallowed it and then within seconds just started

738
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Speaker 1: yakking all over the pictures mound and I all, like

739
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: the kids watching were like screaming, and like everybody's like,

740
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: oh my god. Oh. I tried it one time and

741
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: I almost passed out from it. Some people love it.

742
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: I had a coach who encouraged me to do it.

743
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: He was a bad man apparently, but this was junior

744
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: in high school and I took some red Man and

745
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: it was out there playing short stuff, seeing pink elephants.

746
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it gets you hot. Why was he encouraging

747
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: you to do it you man, I have some too

748
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: very strange this this back to the game. Yeah, let's

749
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: try wanting to throw up after watching another home loss.

750
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: That's how bad it was, ya, It's that bad. It

751
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: doesn't it feel like they've lost at home every week

752
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: to It also feels like the Lions, Vikings, and Bears

753
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: have only played each other this season. Like that's how

754
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings are four and two. I don't know why.

755
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: It seems like this NFC North is in this strange

756
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: permu to triangle. This is the second time these two

757
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: teams have played so that. It's not just a feeling

758
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: that the Vikings have been in the division a lot.

759
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: They at least have an identity. I think they kind

760
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: of know what they are. It might not be that exciting,

761
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: but their defense is it. We haven't gotten a lot

762
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: of good Bridgewater games start to finish this year. I mean,

763
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: if they if he starts playing in a more consistent

764
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: level and digs being a guy, that could end up

765
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: being a player. Now a fifth round pick could be

766
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: a steel You put in some a p this This

767
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: team is a playoff team. I feel like they're one

768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: of the wild card teams. Uh, they look that way.

769
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: To me so far. Well, they traded Hodges a linebacker

770
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: two games ago, and look what Eric Kendricks has done

771
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: since and led the team in tackles in Week six.

772
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: This he leaves him in sacks with two in this game.

773
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: And then look at their last two draft classes. Two

774
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: dozen four team brings you your quarterback and Anthony Barr

775
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: one of the best young linebackers in the NFL. You

776
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: get Eric Kendricks and Stephen Digs here. We haven't seen

777
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: much of Trey Wayne yet, but that could be great

778
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: back to back draft list when Volt Joseph is playing

779
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: pretty well with them. It was a draft pick, I mean,

780
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: a free agent pick up a couple of years ago

781
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: that didn't get a lot of love. But he is

782
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: getting a lot of money and they're surviving games where

783
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: they're not getting great Adrian Peterson games. You know, last

784
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: week they won a game where he struggled. This week,

785
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: he struggled for most of the game, but then broke

786
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: off a seventy five yard run and that was basically

787
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: it for him for the day. Is it safe to

788
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: say that he's not quite the same guy anymore. I

789
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: think it's the offensive line. He didn't have a chance.

790
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Last week. I didn't see this game, but last week

791
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have Actually, yeah, good though, I mean that's

792
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: not I think a lot of times before when I've

793
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: seen his games this year, he didn't look like he

794
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: could really reach that next level. When he was running,

795
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: it almost looked like his legs were a little heavy.

796
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: And on that one long run that he had, he

797
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: I thought reached that speed. He's always had a little

798
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: hitch in his gideo. You don't want at it, you know,

799
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: at his peak when he ran for two thousand yards,

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: So he's almost hard to judge in that spot. But yeah,

801
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: maybe some approved line play. Uh, let's move on. The

802
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Saints opened up the road match up against the Colts

803
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: with twenty unanswered points, then held on. Uh come back

804
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: by the Colts, but ultimately the Saints a twenty seven

805
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: to twenty one win in India, another terrible loss for

806
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: the Colts. West Andrew luck through for three and thirty

807
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: three yards three scores. But his stat line was deceiving,

808
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah, pay no attention to the box s core.

809
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: He played terribly. He started out over five, didn't complete

810
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: a pass until nine minutes left in the second quarter.

811
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Speaker 1: The slowest start he's had in a game in his career,

812
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: and he's regressed. We said last week he's not the

813
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: same player he was last year. We saw that in

814
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: Week one and we're still seeing it now. To me,

815
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't care what the rest of the problem is

816
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: with the Colts. Andrew Luck is the biggest problem when

817
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback has regrets to the extent that he has,

818
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: whereas his arm, his pocket presence, which Greg once termed

819
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: the eighth wonder of the world, and now it's a

820
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: disadvantage every week. It's crazy to hear Chris say that too,

821
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: because you know everyone loves Andrew Luck, but to even

822
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: suggest that Luck had some weaknesses in the past would

823
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: be worth, you know, five minutes scolding from West and

824
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: he's about as big a fan of Andrew Luck. But

825
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, West, of course, to his credit, is gonna

826
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: tell you what he sees, and what you see out

827
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck this year is a guy. If it

828
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: was a different quarterback, would just be getting killed because

829
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: of the pocket present, because of the decision making, because

830
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: of the way they're losing games with him, And then

831
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: they weren't losing games with Matt Hasselbeck. The whole thing

832
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: is is bizarre. And the Colts keep getting shut out.

833
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean the first of the first half of these games.

834
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Speaker 1: This was the third time this year out of seven games,

835
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: they've been shut out three times. Also, you have t

836
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Y Hilton, who is this a violation because I brought

837
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: it up on the show earlier today. T Y Hilton,

838
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: They're down twenty points and he scores a touchdown and

839
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: he's celebrating, He's still doing his dance. I mean, when

840
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: you're down twenty some points, shouldn't you maybe pump the

841
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: brakes a little bit on that or no, perhaps, but

842
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: there are personal glories to achieve. You know, You're right,

843
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: guys are into the personal glory angle. We should all

844
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: take a page from your book. Yeah, that's true. It's

845
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: about the team beyond luck. This team, I think they

846
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: were down twenty one or nothing. The defense was just

847
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: going through the motions, allowing mark Ingram to write and

848
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: rite through them. It's a team one problem. And I

849
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: think they got those garbage time touchdowns. Delvin Brow fell

850
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: down on both of the long cross Hilton. If not

851
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: for those two plays, I think you might hear some

852
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: talk about Chuck Pagano. Well, I was just about to say,

853
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: do you have for it? Said he's lasting to the

854
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: end of the season. He said that before, and he

855
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: was first in Lyne to say Pagano is on the

856
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: hot seat this year. Those things can change and that

857
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna last to everything's fluid in the end. If

858
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: you're Jim Mercy, aren't you maybe sitting down with Ryan

859
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Griggson and saying, hey, do we have a Dan Campbell

860
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: on this coaching staff? Like is there someone someone who

861
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: knows that that everyone that everyone likes and maybe they

862
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: could rally around him and save this season because let's

863
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: face it, this, even yeah, they might win this division,

864
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: but this is not a super Bowl contender right now.

865
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they need to do. They gotta do

866
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: something rash or something desperate. I think that's crazy. I mean,

867
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even that hug just Pagano fan, but just

868
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: the success that he's had there and the fact that

869
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: they're in first place, and the fact that the players

870
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: love him, that you you let him play out the season,

871
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: love him so much? How could they keep doing undisciplined

872
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: things like turnovers, just hordes of ill timed penalties and

873
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: then today, like going through the motions. I don't know.

874
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't think going to Rob Chazynski is going to

875
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: change that though. I mean, I think you let them

876
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: play out the scene, especially when you're in first place,

877
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: and see if they they've had success, if they have

878
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: more halfs like they did the first half today. I

879
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: don't care what our guys are reporting. NFL situations are fluid. Um,

880
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: a little sandwich talk real quick, West, Greg, you have

881
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: a lock right now with your Andrew Luck won't receive

882
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: an m VP vote. Oh yeah, I like that. Enjoy

883
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: your sandwich West year. Brandon Cooks wagers in trouble, however,

884
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: big trouble, your boy. I don't know if mark Ingram

885
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: was involved with any wagers or props this year, but

886
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: he is your boy. He had a big game today,

887
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: he did thanks to the cool ran really well. Well

888
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: let's give let's talk about the Saints for a minute quickly.

889
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: Do we think they're back here in the mix at

890
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: three and four? Their defense is a lot better? Um.

891
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: I tend to think this was on Luck today and

892
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: the fact that the culture a train wreck, But the

893
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: Saints defense played well. Bro has been good. Like we

894
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: met for the past month, Stefan Anthony came to play.

895
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan Is five sacks in his last two games.

896
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: He's played well this year. This is a little bit

897
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: of a scary FOURK week. We'll get into it more

898
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. But a little bit nervous, that's all I

899
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna say. A couple of teams got me a little nervous. Now,

900
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: what about KiHa ha? He was good too. He's been good.

901
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: And the thing that I took the Dawkins game was

902
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: they looked like the Saints offense. And I know maybe

903
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't perfect here today, but look like the Saints offense.

904
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: FO fifty yards. Greg getting excited about the Saints in

905
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: the mix n if he's gonna be tricky to get

906
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: to get that second wild cards. But that's the thing.

907
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: There's still three games behind second place in the NFC.

908
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: They're a long way from Matt. I don't consider the

909
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Saints stuff all that frisky for the wild card picture.

910
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: They're certainly harder to beat now than they were a

911
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: month ago, but I don't think they're a playoff team.

912
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Let's move back to the a f C. The Chiefs

913
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: five game losing streak is done. Zo it's over Alex

914
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: Smith three for two fifty one yards and a score.

915
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: Sharchadrick West added add hundred and ten yards and his

916
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: first TV a twenty three to thirteen win over the

917
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: injury plague Steelers West. The Steelers were in trouble and

918
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: they fell behind and needed Landry Jones to start making

919
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: plays accurate. More of the same from their play calling

920
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: and coaching that they shackle their quarterback, won't let him

921
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: attempt any passes, go run heavy, and then when they

922
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: need him they expect him to play well. But I

923
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: don't think that's a winning recipe and it's It's one

924
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Cowboys went from Brandon Weeding

925
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: the Castle, because you can't run an offense when you

926
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: don't trust your quarterback to throw the ball. And Steelers

927
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't trust Landry Jones to throw the ball until they

928
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: were coming from behind. At that point, he had three turnovers.

929
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: I feel like the football gods were just saying both

930
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: of these teams were due. The Chiefs were very much

931
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: overdue for a win. They've been in all these games.

932
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: Their defense has really impressed me the last few weeks,

933
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: playing very well, and while the Steelers got away with

934
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: a couple here you go on the road to Kansas City.

935
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't to me. The records weren't that

936
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: important when Landry Jones was starting that they weren't favoring

937
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: That was a tough spot for Landry Jones going to Casey.

938
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: As bad as Casey's record has been, they you know,

939
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: they still got some fight in them, or at least

940
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: they have some guys that can make place in their buildings.

941
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: So I don't see this is a huge upset that

942
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers went down the spot and where they're four

943
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: in three. Now, yeah, they're four and three, so that

944
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: they're fine that three. Tomlin said after the game. I

945
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: believe that he expects Big Ben to come back to

946
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: face the Bengals next week. Each time you lose these games, though,

947
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: you know you that makes it like next week, for instance,

948
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: we're docing Bengals, Steelers, you have to win that game,

949
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: and the divisions over mid season your four losses behind

950
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: if you don't win that game. So that's what these

951
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: losses do. That they will just be fighting for a

952
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: wild card unless they can sweep the Bengals to the

953
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: a f C West Derek Carr through three touchdown passes,

954
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: and the Oakland Raiders, uh speaking of four teams, cruise

955
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: to a thirty seven to nine win over the Chargers

956
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: in a game that wasn't nearly as close as the

957
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: final score indicated. It was not. It was thirty to

958
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: six at half time, it was thirty seven to six.

959
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: After it was thirty seven to six going into the

960
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You know, the Raiders are here and they're

961
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and I don't think they're going to

962
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, so I don't think they're gonna get us

963
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: on the fork. But they're a legitimate team and this

964
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: a f C West is not great this year, and

965
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: it was begging for one of these two teams I

966
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: think to step up and say, Okay, we're gonna be

967
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: the second place team in this division. We're gonna be

968
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: in the mix. I think the Raiders are that team there.

969
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: They are to be one of the more consistent teams

970
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: in the league. The Raiders. Last time we were this

971
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: high on them was a few weeks ago, and then

972
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: they went and lost of the Bears. But I don't

973
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: think they were that bad, and I don't think they

974
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: were great. I don't think they're a great team. I

975
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: think they outplayed the Bears for most of that game.

976
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is pretty much the same guy

977
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: each and every week. Marii Cooper is making Derek Carr's

978
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: numbers look insane. Derek Carr was very late on a

979
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: long throw down the field and Amari Cooper just jumps

980
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: up and turns it into a forty two air of game.

981
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: He takes a five yard little throat and then he

982
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: makes seven people miss and runs it in. For fifty

983
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: five years, I just think it's a good team. Not

984
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: a great team, but a good teams bad for years

985
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: and years and years and years. They finally have now

986
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: hit on back to back first round picks first uh

987
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack now Mary Cooper. And you're seeing the difference

988
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: on the field, you are. And also luckily mc hammer

989
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: was live tweeting this entire game. Yeah, it was Hammer

990
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: time all the time on this. I mean he had

991
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: center on NFL Sunday. Blitz was really enjoying that. I bet, yeah, yeah, exactly.

992
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Bankruptcy doesn't preclude you from getting a Twitter account. It's free.

993
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: It's free, which is great for everybody, um, but the Chargers.

994
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: When you look at their situation. They were down by

995
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: twenty points at home to the Raiders. That is no good,

996
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: No Philip. Rivers started this game very poorly. He would

997
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: admit it. He did not play well at all in

998
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the first half. By then the game was basically over.

999
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: He had some ugly misses, an ugly interception, and their

1000
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: defense has been pretty bad overall all season. I have

1001
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: never seen I've never seen Mike McCoy have any human emotion,

1002
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: but I've definitely never seen him be as angry as

1003
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: he was at the podium with some of the questions

1004
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: after the game, and it just felt like he's gripping

1005
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: that podium a little tighter and he's starting to feel

1006
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: the walls coming in. This is an ugly two and

1007
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: five start for a team that has a really easy

1008
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: schedule the next month, so they, in theory, could bounce

1009
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: back a little bit. But this is a bad spot.

1010
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: But they I mean, you say they have an easy schedule,

1011
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: but we kind of know who they are. They can

1012
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: get beat by any bad team on their on their

1013
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: best day, they can beat a good team. But I

1014
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: don't see them being a team that can go on

1015
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: a run. And and Colleen, you know I was sitting

1016
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: on in on a full show. I don't hand these

1017
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: invites out easily, right, I know that, not like candy

1018
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: on Yeah no, it was top getting in here today joke.

1019
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: But you are invited into our conference room where we

1020
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: have we have coffee and Danish son Stanish, some bagels,

1021
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: a little uh locks, Greg. We got everything you could need.

1022
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: What a great Jewish outreach there, oatmeal, everything you could

1023
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: ever wants. Well, we're gonna the four Committee will commence

1024
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: conversations earlier this week and you are welcome. That's wonderful.

1025
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you a key call talks of a t

1026
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: from a year ago. Let's not talking about them being

1027
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: the team of a two. And we could also fork. Well,

1028
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: actually that's not fair. It's I just have to say

1029
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: it had to have been a great moment for Raiders

1030
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: fans there at the game today because they were loud

1031
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: and proud, and they were giving and the innovations to

1032
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: too much of the game. Philip Rivers had to use

1033
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: a silent count again, really had trouble getting plays off

1034
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: because it was just it was a party in the

1035
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: second half, and I had to think, like for those

1036
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Raiders fans that have been loyal all this time, and

1037
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: they're going to games for the Charge. I mean, it

1038
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: had to have been a lot of fun to just

1039
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: see them, you know, been a lot of fun to

1040
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: watch that insane cut that Amari Cooper put on Jimmy

1041
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I gotta give credit to any San

1042
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: Diego fans that went to that game. After the news

1043
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: over the weekend about the teams moving forward with their

1044
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: quest to be playing in Los Angeles. Uh, it's just

1045
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: the situation is getting grim for the Charges this year.

1046
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: There's no way around it. There two and five. There's

1047
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: a lot of unrest in their own stadium situation. It's

1048
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: just it's not not a team I see making a

1049
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: spirited run to January. No. Antonio Gates didn't help the

1050
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: situation either. For Phil Rivers today did not help at all.

1051
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: All Right, moving on, let's another Is it inter is

1052
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: an inter conference or intra conference? I always get this one.

1053
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: Who were the team? Why not to say out of conference?

1054
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: I like to go with intra Atlantic between the two

1055
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: if I know it correctly, I prefer it inter conference

1056
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: battle between the Falcons and the Titans. Matt Ryan through

1057
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: for two hundred and fifty one yards at a touchdown.

1058
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: The Devanta Freeman ran for another hundred yards, a hundred

1059
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: and sixteen. This time the Falcons edged the Titans ten seven.

1060
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: Not like that score at all for the Falcons, but

1061
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: they wont Greg. Mediocre performance from Matt Ryan and there's

1062
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: been quite a few something he even got in that

1063
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: little intro you did. Yeah, growing for two yards is

1064
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: some great achievement. There's not a lot to talk about

1065
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: this set up. Yeah, go ahead six and one. The Falcons,

1066
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: I would say what they did was well, it's hard

1067
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: to put a bow on their defense is greater than

1068
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: the sum of its parts. That both quarterbacks were lousy

1069
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: and after Matt Ryan tried to lose the games to

1070
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: the Titans, Zach Mettenberger did a better job, losing it

1071
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: with a late interception to Atlanta. The one difference is

1072
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Atlanta has a running game. They have DeVonta Freeman. You

1073
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get that each week. And that was

1074
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: to me, the biggest difference in the game. All you

1075
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: fans of teams want your want your team to trade

1076
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: for Zach Mettenberger. Good luck. This is a shot at Greg.

1077
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: By the way, Greg didn't write a letter to his

1078
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: team saying Trede pre Zac Mettenberger, who did that? I

1079
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: was I was awared that I did because eleven drives

1080
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: today they scored on one, which is about what he

1081
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: was last year when he had one of the worst stakes,

1082
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: one of the worst successful drive percentages in in NFL history,

1083
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: and everyone decided it was a good quarterback. I think

1084
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: he has potential. I'm not going to back off what

1085
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: I saw from last season. This wasn't this was a

1086
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: bad performance out of him. It was he had Charlie

1087
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: Whitehurst disease, a lot of six yard throws on third

1088
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: and twelve, just a lot of pointless drives. The Titans

1089
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: are a tough watch right now. What happened. By the way,

1090
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: we were so excited about the Titans. I know mariot

1091
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: To being hurt doesn't help anything, but there, there, there

1092
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: they are one in five, you know, not being a

1093
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: team that's fun to watch, a team of at l

1094
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: nom nude. Not too long ago, they just had a

1095
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: four game homestand which never ever happens in the NFL.

1096
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Four straight home games and they lost all four, and

1097
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like it was like the first time

1098
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: in team history they've ever lost the four games. Well, no,

1099
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: no kidding, I mean, how many home stands can you

1100
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: ever even have? That might be the first one ever

1101
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: and you lost all four and that's hard. Yes, Antonio Andrews,

1102
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: they decided as their primary back, he was the guy.

1103
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: This is they judged skill position talent worse than any

1104
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: team in the league, and they have for the last

1105
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: few years. It's amazing two teams in the NFL have

1106
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: six wins despite their quarterback. I wouldn't say that about

1107
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I mean he made a lot of a

1108
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: stake not having a good year. I can tell you

1109
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: that because our fantasy team, Alana vintraub I pounded the

1110
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: table on draft day, said let's make sure we get

1111
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: Ryan off the board here, and I'm getting rewarded with

1112
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: like one touchdown a week. Yeah. Well, I think he's

1113
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: played solid overall until the last couple of Yeah, it's

1114
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: probably just been the last He has not played well

1115
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. He threw an interception. They decided

1116
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth and goal on on

1117
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: the goal line with just four minutes left and up three,

1118
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: which was a really gutsy decision, and he threw an

1119
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: interception on the plate, Mettenberger gets them back in field

1120
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: goal range. Looked like this thing was gonna overtime, and

1121
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: then Mettenberger gives it right back. M hmm, Is it

1122
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: saved us from a meaningless over time? What if they

1123
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: go three and thirty? You know they the tytoons again?

1124
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Have they cleared tytoons because Mariona is there? But if

1125
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: they still are tough to watch and don't really matter

1126
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: in a sense of the NFL, are they still the tattoo?

1127
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: And do you think you can go back on it?

1128
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: If Mariota turns into like the first six games at

1129
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck this year, then yeah, that they might be tyoons.

1130
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: But it's sad or even having this comment depend on

1131
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: how the quarterback plays like every other team in the week,

1132
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: Hey more inter conference football, Get excited and gave myself

1133
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: this one. Todd Gurley rushed for a hundred and twenty

1134
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: eight yards two scores, the first two touchdowns of his career,

1135
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: leading the St. Louis Rams six win over the fading

1136
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Greg Todd Gurley just a rookie, but he's

1137
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: had a transformational effect on your boys. The three and

1138
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: three Rams. It's amazing how consistent is every week that

1139
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: he looks like the best player on the field. Three

1140
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: straight weeks is a hundred and twenty yards rushing. They

1141
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: said even going into the game they wanted to get

1142
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: him involved as a receiver more, and so they did.

1143
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: He led the team with four receptions, had thirty five

1144
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: yards receiving. There was very little separating these two teams

1145
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: other than the Browns turned it over four times on fumbles,

1146
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: two of them were m account to from the receivers,

1147
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: and the Rams had Todd Gurley. That was really it.

1148
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams one with as little passing for

1149
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: most of the game as you can win with. I

1150
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: just realized you would being a hundred percent serious when

1151
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: you said you gave yourself a treat by letting yourself on.

1152
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I thought you were joking. No, I was joking. I

1153
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: was in the end, but I was trying to give

1154
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: myself a treat. I thought would be fun. But now

1155
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: he thought this game would be fun. At the Edward

1156
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: James almost um girly finished with a hundred and sixty

1157
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: three yards from scrimmins. I was the same as Nick

1158
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 1: Foles undred sixty three years passing. That's pretty much Fisher's dream.

1159
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: I thought Levian Bell was headed toward that Gronk J. J.

1160
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Watt territory where he's the gold standard by quite a

1161
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: bit at the position. I think girls right there with

1162
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: le I saw you getting a little Twitter spat about this,

1163
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I gotta see him be as

1164
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: big a factor in the receiving game, because that's not

1165
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: just something like, oh yeah, but he's a better runner

1166
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: than Bell. That's why I think it's close, because Bell

1167
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: is a better receiver. And I know people who don't

1168
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: watch football will say, hey, you can't say that after

1169
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: three games. No, it's pretty easy to see. I mean,

1170
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: he looks so powerful when he runs that you really can't.

1171
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: You have to take that seriously because he just looks

1172
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: so good right now and he can Well, the thing

1173
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: you love is he can he broke a tackle and

1174
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: then runs forty yards. But then he also can make

1175
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: people miss in a small space without breaking the tackle.

1176
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: And he went around and for I think it was

1177
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: a sixteen yard touchdown at one point. So I mean

1178
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: he can just six shords per carry on the season,

1179
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: he could do it pretty much anything as a running back.

1180
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: He makes them legit. They're one of to say it.

1181
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: He's great, He's just not it. I love Levy on Bell.

1182
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: He is so good as a receiver. You can't put

1183
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: Girly right there. So good. I mean, girl is a

1184
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: good receiver too, and he's so great as a runner.

1185
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: Girly fever, Girly Manu Manzel to start next with shoulder injury. Late, yeah,

1186
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: late in the game. He got the shoulder injury. Means

1187
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: l comes in. We'll see I mean now they might

1188
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: have No they haven't. You don't think they're good, Austin Davis, No,

1189
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: why not? I mean why they didn't They Johnny Manzel

1190
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: entirely and was the backup quarterback and he played today,

1191
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: so that's tells me he's the backup quarterback. It was crazy.

1192
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: Mark is lucky he was in London for this game

1193
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: because this did not look like too uneven teams. I

1194
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: think the Browns out gained him and found a way

1195
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: to lose to six. They just the story, kept losing

1196
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: fumbles and whenever they'd have a big play, a penalty

1197
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: took it back. I mean, Joe Thomas holding penalty took

1198
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: away a huge place. So you have speaking of sandwich

1199
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: wagers or propositions, Greg, you have the Rams finishing its

1200
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: second place, it's time for them to start stackings and dubs.

1201
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, this was one of those

1202
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: games we kind of said, oh, this is where we

1203
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: learned about the Rams. Did they win a game they're

1204
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: supposed to what they did? They won this game. Now

1205
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: you gotta win. They got the Niners next week at home.

1206
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Take care of business there. Get over five d at

1207
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Vikings is a tough but not impossible game. And then

1208
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: he got home to Bars and then at Ravens. So

1209
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: you should be a good position by the time you

1210
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: face at Bengals home to Cardinals back to back weeks

1211
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: and late November early December. Come on, Greg, take care

1212
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: of business here. They're in second place. The season ended today.

1213
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to bet we don't bet Sandwich moving on

1214
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in actually against the Redskins,

1215
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: and the Redskins fell behind twenty four nothing in this game,

1216
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: but here comes West's boy Kirk Cousins, throwing three second

1217
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: half touchdown passes, including the go ahead score with twenty

1218
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: four seconds to way. In the end, it was the

1219
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Redskins a thirty one to thirty win, a thriller over

1220
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: the bucks that you like that? Kirk Cousins. How about him?

1221
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns in this one in the second half alone.

1222
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: This was his second time coming back on that final

1223
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: drive down twenty four nothing. You guys saw the video

1224
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: how fired up he was after the game. But he

1225
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: looked great in the game. To Joy, I didn't see

1226
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: the video. What are we talking about? Oh it's he

1227
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: what was it some type of gift or something. I

1228
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Something went out, but he what did he say?

1229
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: You like that? Well, basically we had I partly take response.

1230
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: I was setting Gregg up there, but then he left

1231
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: you hang out to drive for a couple of times.

1232
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: Take responsibility in part. Redskins fan should thank me for

1233
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: the greatest comeback in Washington Redskins history. This team has

1234
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: been around for what eighty years? West even longer in

1235
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: insane amount of time, and this was the greatest one ever.

1236
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: And it started when I sent an email to our

1237
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: producer to get a little clip up ready of West

1238
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: really talking up that he wouldn't fork the Redskins because

1239
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I was ready to stick it to West and fork him.

1240
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: And then somewhere Kirk Cousins heard it and he started

1241
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: going crazy and he engineers that come back and then

1242
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: he has a message for me. You like that. That's

1243
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: like if you play, Like if I played that for

1244
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: my wife, and she'd be like, sports are so stupid.

1245
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: That's Kirk Cousins. I just have this like blurred image

1246
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: of going to the locker room. He randomly, he randomly

1247
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: sees a reporter. At first, everyone thought it's like he's

1248
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: yelling at his critics and really sticking it to them,

1249
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: but he really wasn't. He was just, you know, guy,

1250
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: he just seeing a reporter he knows, and he's just

1251
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of like you just said, I get so amped

1252
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: up and so crazy after the game. He's like, I've

1253
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: done that before. It was just sort of TD. If

1254
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: you got like a this is a job you could

1255
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: farm off to someone. But if you got like a

1256
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: limp biscuit instrumental track and then just laid that on top,

1257
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: it would sound like when Olympus gets hits from the

1258
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: early two thousands this game, it sounds like, well, farrel

1259
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: when he's liken' what is our composure? And that's the

1260
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: funny thing. He's dead serious, like all fired up. But

1261
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: good for Kirk Cousins. But you know West is in

1262
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: a bizarre pounding the table moment on the last podcast,

1263
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: saying that everyone in the NFC used to be fork

1264
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: except for the Redskins. Well that was Let's not so

1265
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: crazy that they beat the Bucks today and they need

1266
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: the last second. Do you guys think that the rest

1267
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: of the NFC East there's some great teams. No, that

1268
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: helps your narrative. That's never been single out the Redskins

1269
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: the worst. You can make a choice of who you

1270
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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna make it. I don't think Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins a playoff type of quarterback. I don't think they

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: have been going on. You've been crapping on Kirk Cousins

1273
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: all year and you know, like something today three under yards,

1274
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, your interceptions, that hasn't been done by Redskins

1275
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: quarterback and the twenty one century Well, I just said

1276
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: he had the greatest comeback ever. That's even better. I

1277
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: was back you know when were having different, you know,

1278
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: racist controversy to he got Jordan back today, the Sean

1279
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: Jackson back he gets off. He's getting no help from

1280
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: the running game. It's hard to keep track of all

1281
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: the Chris Wesleyan rules because you were just telling us

1282
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago when we were talking about some

1283
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: good performance against the Bucks that nothing that happens against

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense counts as anything. Okay, that's fair. Yeah,

1285
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorite ones because very rarely

1286
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: does does West get sucked into a clearly bad team

1287
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: and quarterback. So I'm just along with the ride waiting

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: for this to crash and West having to eat some

1289
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: good old humble pie. It's coming. We're a bad team,

1290
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: but I want you guys to single out the other

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01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: three bad teams in the NFC East. Well they're all

1292
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: We got some scientists heat coming up right now. We

1293
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: got a split screen up on YouTube. This is the

1294
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: show to check out on YouTube. I'll say it again,

1295
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: NFL playlist, check out. Look at Greg and West split

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: bring that back one in a month. If these guys

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: get angry at each other, now, Colleen, let's just sit

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah what we already did get angry? Us

1299
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: is there to say, get petty? I don't like that shirt? West?

1300
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: WHOA you like it? I was the same anyway. So yes,

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: but a big one for the Redskins and and yes,

1302
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: a very mediocre NFC. So if you're three and four,

1303
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: like the Redskins are. Now you're right in the middle

1304
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: of things, and you got to buy and then you

1305
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: get to go to New England safe and then New

1306
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: Orleans at Carolina. You come out of those three games.

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01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: If you if the Redskins come out of those three

1308
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: games anything better than four and six, I will buy.

1309
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: I will get you a sandwich. Hold who loses the division?

1310
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: Who loses the division? What do you mean, who's the

1311
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: worst in the division. I don't even I think it

1312
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: is the Redskins. I think Rag feels the same way,

1313
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's a big difference. They have Patriots, Saints, Panthers,

1314
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: And you said if they come out, if they come

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: out any better, if they if they go to and

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: one in those three games, because if they don't go

1317
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: to in one, they're gonna be four and six. You know,

1318
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: after ten games, there's really Then they play the Giants

1319
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: and Cowboys, which are easy wins. I just realized by

1320
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: the way, I didn't realize. You're in a tough spot

1321
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: right now. Patriots are your favorite team, You're not my favorite.

1322
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: You respect them, they're great. The two teams that have

1323
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: your most hardcore narratives right now, the Dolphins and Redskins.

1324
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: The next two weeks, the Pats get them. They got

1325
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: narratives on the line, and you're number one ten the narratives.

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01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are a good team. The redskinstives. The Pats

1327
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: are Avenge Tour. They're gonna take out all of Westerleans

1328
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: stable of boys. That's I don't I hate that I'm

1329
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: stuck defending the Redskins because they're a bad team to

1330
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: the ground after Tom Brady is throwing it. It's the

1331
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: same reason I wanted to keep the Jaguars, because I

1332
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: knew the Cults were a bad, bad football team. Okay,

1333
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's stick in the NFC since it's such

1334
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: a fun division to talk about. The metal Lands East Rutherford,

1335
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: New Jersey, right off Route three, Colleen, I know you

1336
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: know the area well. Dwayne Harris scored on a one

1337
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: yard kickoff return minutes after the Cowboys, his former team,

1338
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: by the way, had tied the game in the fourth quarter.

1339
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: It was the key play in a win for the

1340
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: Giants over the Cowboys West. The Cowboys are now oh

1341
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: and four without Tony Romo. They've gone from two and

1342
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: oh to two and four. Is this all these struggles,

1343
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: this all about the QB play, Yes, absolutely, and this

1344
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: sandwich you're gonna give me for the Redskins, just give

1345
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: it to me for McFadden castle proposition, which McFadden, you know,

1346
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: went on the signs. Yeah, I want to I should

1347
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: forget to sign You gotta be flustered because I want

1348
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: to check out something at a certain point with you

1349
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: have to be responsible as an NFL dot Oh, the

1350
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: headline to this game on NFL dot com the second

1351
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: second thing in the stack right now or I believe

1352
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: they've changed it, which is good. They made a good

1353
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: editorial decision. Badden's breakout game ruined by lost the Giants.

1354
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Like that was the big takeaway, was Darren McFadden having

1355
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: a big game, not in fact the Castle at three

1356
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: interceptions you could have gone there, or the Giants won

1357
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: the game, or Dwayne Harris, a guy who was on

1358
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, beat of the Giants are now

1359
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: in first place. Oh, it was Darren McFadden's big day.

1360
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: That was the story of the game. They lost the game.

1361
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: They out they one time, dominated time possession, had twice

1362
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: as many first downs and almost twice as many yards.

1363
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: The editor in chief and Gregg coming out right now,

1364
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put a punt returner as like the

1365
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: story of the game. Sorry. It is crazy that no,

1366
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: no contract got picked on more than Dwayne Harris because

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: he got a lot of money from the Giants, being like,

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: why would the Giants paid that much money to the

1369
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys punt returner? And wasn't it it was? I'm sure

1370
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: they would say it's all worth it just for this

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01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: one play. Well, Jerry was Jerry Jones was a little

1372
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: he admitted after the game. It was hard to see

1373
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: Dwayne Harris being the one to give him the loss,

1374
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: especially when the next play, well not the next play,

1375
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: but shortly after Dwayne they tie the game. Cowboys come

1376
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: back and tie the game. Castle had a great pass

1377
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: and on the very next play Dwayne Harris hundred yard

1378
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: kickoff return and shortly there after, Cool Beasley, the Cowboys

1379
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: punt returner, mops the fun ball in the game and

1380
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: that would have been Dwyne Harris returning the plant if

1381
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: he still played for the Cowboys. That about Orleans dark

1382
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: one today, one touchdown for him. That was nice. I started, um,

1383
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: I started to get texts from my buddies in New York.

1384
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: There Giants sense they're like to Dark Dark one. I'm like,

1385
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: what the hell is this all about. Apparently he's someone

1386
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: I had to do with football. No, I just thought

1387
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: maybe they were just just nonsense. There's something going on.

1388
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: It's a great game there Russia. Jennings hasn't really made

1389
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: plays all year except that one special teams play he made.

1390
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: He's been really slow as a running back. So it

1391
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that they went to Orleans darkwa and

1392
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: Shane Veren over Jennings in most of this game. And

1393
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: Andrew William who they're kind of not really buying into, well,

1394
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I will throw the I don't like this

1395
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: Giant's team, but I will throw them a bone. Here.

1396
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 1: They are at four and three there in first place,

1397
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: and they're doing it without Odell Beckham Jr. Being even

1398
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: close to his Michael Jordan's form um west of Barrow

1399
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: some of your past analysis, he is not the same

1400
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: guy right now. That and that that is you have

1401
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: to be very aware of. I mean, I think he

1402
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: was five for thirty three today, something very pedestrian. So

1403
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: it's a big difference with that team. When they don't

1404
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: have a guy that just tearing apart defenses on a

1405
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: weekly basis. He would have broken the internet again today

1406
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: because in the exact same spot on the field, with

1407
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: the exact same guy in coverage right here almost pulled

1408
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: in another spectacular catch and Brandon Carr got away with

1409
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: past interference the whole thirty yards down the field. He

1410
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: was grabbing his arm the whole way there. This year

1411
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: and last right there, though, although I feel like I've

1412
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: heard five different times this year that, oh that Odell

1413
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: Beckham almost made the catch that broke the internet, there

1414
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: was one on the sidelines of bounds. It's like, which

1415
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: is luck? Last year's catch was luck too. Wow, it

1416
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: took a lot of skill. Can you do that ten

1417
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: times out of ten? No, It's but he was when

1418
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: we talked about him all through the offseason, the guy

1419
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: that had, you know, Jerry Rice ceiling type talent. He's been.

1420
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: He's just been a guy that we've talked about this.

1421
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: He's drawing more attention than any wide receiver in the league.

1422
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: And it's a one of the reasons why Eli Mammy

1423
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: was and gets getting sacked behind a horrible offensive line.

1424
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: To your point, though about Allowsy Division. I'm not getting

1425
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: too excited about any team who gives up four hundred

1426
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: and sixty yards to a Castle led Cowboys team doubled

1427
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: and doubled in first down and I don't doubled in

1428
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: first downs. And for the most of the day, the

1429
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys look better. And the Giants have gotten a few

1430
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: close wins. I had a few close losses. You're right

1431
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: that they're all bad. I agree, and I don't and

1432
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't forget the Monday night performance by the Giants either.

1433
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: And the point is west none of these teams are good.

1434
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for admitting. And that is not something

1435
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: that's needed to be admitted. We've always we've all been

1436
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: on the same page of that. Just the Redskins are

1437
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: a little bit worse. We should be forking somebody in

1438
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: that division. You know, as a new member of the

1439
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: fork committee, it's a big spot for you. Where do

1440
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: you come down on the whole Redskins uh NFC East

1441
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: Redskins Gate. I think a lot of a lot of

1442
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: pressure here, but speak yeah, No, I mean they looked

1443
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 1: they definitely looked better today. And I think their defense,

1444
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: that front, that's they've been playing well it's tough when

1445
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: you don't really have a running game to get going,

1446
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: when you're playing from behind a lot, So it's sort

1447
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: of hard to get a temperature on them right now.

1448
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: But you can say that about dancing around. Wolf gave

1449
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: us the bottom fire you up after. I wouldn't fork

1450
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: them after this week. Well I wouldn't either. I mean,

1451
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: you know, all right, they got the win. I'm gonna

1452
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: let's see what happens next week now, but only because

1453
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: the division. The chowder heads that we're saying gotta be bold,

1454
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: got to be Oh No, I wanted to fork him

1455
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: last week, but it's now. I'm bold for teams I

1456
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: don't like. Well, so that's that's what I'm still regretting,

1457
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: being bullied into UH four team the Jaguars. What happened?

1458
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: Why were you bullying? They Dan promised that if they

1459
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: lose to someone I went forked him. I didn't. Yeah,

1460
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: I knew that the culture an awful football team. I

1461
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: did not put a gun to your head. They got

1462
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: beat by a crappy to be into it, They've been

1463
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: getting beat by crappy teams all year. By the way,

1464
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: they almost blew this game. You kew up the producer

1465
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: enough times to say it's about me, it's gonna make

1466
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: me feel guilty, and then I go along with your bullying.

1467
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: I did not it's about me. I was waiting for it.

1468
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: All right. That's it, Colleen. Are you leaving us? Now?

1469
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to this Sunday night game, so we're

1470
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna say goodbye? Okay, yeah I'm leaving. Well you don't

1471
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: have to say goodbye. I'm leaving. You want to go

1472
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: surfing unless you want to hang out, you know, for

1473
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: another hour. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go home and

1474
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: watch the rest of the game. Well, you did a

1475
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: very nice job. There's no need for a committee to

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Speaker 1: decide when Colleen needs to be for she is a

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Speaker 1: talented there we go, successful there and exciting um talent

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Speaker 1: here at NFL Media, and we would love to have

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Speaker 1: you back next week. Thanks, I'll come by. I don't

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Speaker 1: even need to like Well, someone tweeted at me. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want you know, let's push to have

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Speaker 1: Colleen be a permanent part of the job. Well, how

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Speaker 1: much more permanent doesn't need to be? All right, how

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Speaker 1: about this permanent you're part of the you're part of

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Speaker 1: the heroes at the beginning. It wasn't like in a

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Speaker 1: special guest. It was just like Colleen Wolf, Chris Wesley

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Speaker 1: and me, and then you speak louder, Colleen, We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week. And that takes us to Sunday night

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Speaker 1: football and the Carolina Panthers get excited. Charlotte in the

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Speaker 1: surrounding areas. Your team is six and oh at seven

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Speaker 1: to sixteen win over the Philadelphia Eagles. This is a

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Speaker 1: game in which Cam Newton threw for almost two hundred

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. J Stewart, our boy carries a

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five yards. A nice little performance. Not

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Speaker 1: what you would call greg the most exciting game in

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Speaker 1: the world. But this was what good teams do when

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Speaker 1: they don't have you know, big impact players are going crazy,

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Speaker 1: but they're a better team. They take care of business

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Speaker 1: in their building. And that's what Carolina did. He goes exciting.

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Speaker 1: If you're Ron Rivera and you're watching Kwan Short bust

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Speaker 1: through the line, you're watching a team run the ball.

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: This is basically Ron Rivera's vision. And I'm thinking when

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Speaker 1: we're watching the Eagles get the ball at the other

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: end of the game with a couple of chances to

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Speaker 1: tie or maybe win the game, and they don't even

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: really get close. And this was the old Eagles that

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01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, you expected so much out of their offense.

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: Instead the Panthers just totally shut them down. They didn't

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Speaker 1: even cross midfield threatening to score. Talk about the old Eagles,

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Speaker 1: this looks like the old two thousand thirteen panthem that

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Speaker 1: the ones that stole our hearts, and we made them

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Speaker 1: the team of I would be fine with it if

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Speaker 1: they were the team of atheo right now. I've never

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Speaker 1: I've never fallen out of love. They say, your first love,

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: it's the toughest one to break. I mean, I still

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: love watching the Genius has no clothes. Oh how long

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: you've been. I actually just came up with them, very proud.

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Speaker 1: But we once said, or once believe potentially that Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly's offense was so good that it was quarterback proof,

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Speaker 1: and they do not have a good quarterback. Sam Bradford

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Speaker 1: is not good. We get a weekly reminder of it. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: It was just another one, and it just goes to

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Speaker 1: show Chip Kelly for all his his his smart thinking

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Speaker 1: and different ways of running offenses and getting more plays

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Speaker 1: and a quicker amount of time. He's just like every

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Speaker 1: other coach. If you don't have the quarterback, you don't

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Speaker 1: have the team. Sorry, Chip, you're not special. That's all

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Speaker 1: I got. Well, it's if you don't have the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and you don't have the receivers. I mean, drops killed

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Speaker 1: them throughout the night, including Miles Austin. Was going Jordan Matthews,

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: by the way, he's supposed to have a breakout season.

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Speaker 1: Can't catch any right. He's dropping past is Miles Austin.

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Speaker 1: This is the second game that he's basically ended with

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Speaker 1: a drop. If I remember the Falcons opener correctly. The

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Speaker 1: offensive line isn't playing well. You lose Jason Peters, seven

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Speaker 1: time Pro Bowler, in what looked to be a serious

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Speaker 1: back injury. So there's a lot of things going on.

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Speaker 1: It's not even just the quarterback. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: to a credit of the Panthers who have played good

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Speaker 1: defense for six straight weeks now, So it doesn't it

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. Now we wanted to seep the Panthers

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Speaker 1: play some decent teams. They have and they've taken care

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Speaker 1: of business. We talked about in the preview that they

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Speaker 1: have four legitimate stars on their defense with Thomas Davis,

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Speaker 1: Luke Keickley, Josh Norman, who's one of the best cornerbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league, and Kawan Short who's going to get

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Speaker 1: All Pro consideration at defensive tackle. And the crazy thing

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Speaker 1: is they haven't gotten almost anything out of Chickley and Davis.

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Speaker 1: It's yere Davis really hasn't had a good year. I

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Speaker 1: don't think until tonight, I don't think he's really played

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Speaker 1: particularly well, and Keickley has just been hurt. I think

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Speaker 1: they both had very good nights on Sunday Night Football,

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01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: and Norman's playing outstanding. Kawan show. Now he gets a

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Speaker 1: little national attention, I think he'll start getting that Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl off. It's become a bit of a tiresome narrative.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about it Cam Newton m v P. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe again the numbers aren't there, but he is lording

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Speaker 1: over in a six and oh team. Now, what did

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: you guys see from Cam today? Do you like what

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Speaker 1: you saw? Three interceptions? I mean, to me, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a game that I think about with a lot

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Speaker 1: of this m v P talk. He's been very good,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a full team and he's not

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Speaker 1: doing as much as Tom Brady is doing, or Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodbers or any Dalton for that matter. I love Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: I've always right there. I'm watching him. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think he's got there. It's kind of gotten to the

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Speaker 1: point where if you don't you know, shower Kim Newton

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Speaker 1: with praiser somehow greatly overlooking what he's been able to do.

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Speaker 1: But it just happens that there are other quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: are in a much higher level quarterback but top five,

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Speaker 1: that's where I've had him. Top five right now, when

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Speaker 1: you've got somebody playing at the level of Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: I don't you can talk about Cam Cam Newton, no

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Speaker 1: you want, but there's one guy at top the mb

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Speaker 1: P race now and it's Tom Brady. Sorry. I love

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Speaker 1: seeing Jonathan Stewart having such a nice couple of games here.

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Speaker 1: I think he's run hard all year. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the same explosion, but he's just I mean, he got it,

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Speaker 1: made a big play today. He's he doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: the same explosion he had down the stretch. He's not

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Speaker 1: He's running hard. And you take a look at the

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Speaker 1: upcoming schedule here for the Panthers. They got home to Indianapolis.

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01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: Nice spot for them there to get to seven and oh,

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01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: you would think they would be in good shape. And

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: then that's here's the game. Now we want to figure

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Speaker 1: out how good are the Panthers home against Aaron Rodgers

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01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: and the Packers. That's a good game to watch. Uh

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Speaker 1: Week nine, Yeah, that's a great one. Maybe throw West

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Speaker 1: a bone, give him that game unless you want to, Greg,

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01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: but I'll stay out of this. I'll take it. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny that we're just looking past the old Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton Andrew Luck on Monday night football. Now there's a narratives.

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01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: We won't even get into it, but there's a narrative game.

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01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: If I ever heard one Andrew Luck at his lowest

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: moment in his career, I would say, Cam Newton ride

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01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: and higher than he ever has. I've already started the

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Speaker 1: narrative there. I've enjoyed this podcast tonight, especially because there

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Speaker 1: is a lot of scientist heat, but it comes out

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Speaker 1: of a place of begrudging respect. Yes or not, it's

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Speaker 1: not even be grudging respect. We were having he even

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Speaker 1: when the cameras are off about nonsensical issues, just how

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Speaker 1: we do that's it. Those are the games of Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and it was It was a fun week. It was

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Speaker 1: great talking about it with you guys. I love talking

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Speaker 1: football with you guys. And um, so I'm thankful. It's

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Speaker 1: not thanksgiving up, but I'm saying that I'm thankful. Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler will be on a plane if he goes to

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Speaker 1: sleep tonight and then gets up and then makes the flight.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things, there's a lot of it's like

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Speaker 1: a Ryan Mallett thing going on, and nothing weird happens

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Speaker 1: on the flight. Nothing weird on the flying have happened

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Speaker 1: on flights. If all that comes, uh you know, no incident.

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Speaker 1: He will be back in that chair on Tuesday. The

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Speaker 1: group will be reunited. But thank you very much to

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Speaker 1: Colleen Will for joining us for the full show or

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Speaker 1: just about She's awesome and uh Connie Fox they call her.

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Speaker 1: So thank you to Colleen, and uh, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Tuesday with another big show

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Speaker 1: going over Monday night and look ahead to Thursday night football.

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Speaker 1: Maybe our fork discussion will continue since Dan Hands is

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Speaker 1: signing up for The mail Man, The Boss and TV

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Speaker 1: Behind the Glass Till Tuesday