WEBVTT - Justice 0:00:15.476 --> 0:00:23.636 Pushkin Justice, the French electronic music duo comprised of Gaspa 0:00:23.796 --> 0:00:27.476 OJ and Xavier du Rone, is the gift that keeps 0:00:27.476 --> 0:00:31.036 on giving. Not only did they soundtrack every great party 0:00:31.076 --> 0:00:33.956 from the Mad Dots On along with fellow countrymen Daft Punk, 0:00:33.996 --> 0:00:36.396 of course, but they're keeping the party going in twenty 0:00:36.476 --> 0:00:39.956 twenty five. They just released an incredible sounding new album 0:00:40.036 --> 0:00:42.996 called Hyperdrama that not only sounds like the best possible 0:00:43.076 --> 0:00:45.596 night out in Paris, but brings in touches of jazz 0:00:45.636 --> 0:00:49.516 and experimentation that feel new for the group. They also 0:00:49.596 --> 0:00:52.196 just co produce the opening track of the Weekend's new album, 0:00:52.356 --> 0:00:55.196 a song called wake Me Up that finds a rather 0:00:55.316 --> 0:00:59.396 brilliant way of hearkening back to MJ's Thriller. We discussed 0:00:59.396 --> 0:01:02.556 the creative process behind the Weekend track their new album, 0:01:02.796 --> 0:01:05.236 why they've never been able to reproduce their iconic Cross 0:01:05.316 --> 0:01:09.036 logo in real life, and who's drums they surprisingly sampled 0:01:09.236 --> 0:01:12.196 on their first album Cross. If you'd like to watch 0:01:12.276 --> 0:01:14.996 the video of today's episode, visit our YouTube page YouTube 0:01:15.036 --> 0:01:21.716 dot com. Slash the Broken Record Podcast. This is Broken Record, 0:01:22.196 --> 0:01:31.356 real musicians, real conversations. Here's my conversation with gaspar Ouja 0:01:31.556 --> 0:01:36.436 and Xavier Drone of Justice. What music did you grow 0:01:36.476 --> 0:01:36.836 up with me? 0:01:37.276 --> 0:01:40.396 You know, you always have a cuisin, an older cousin, 0:01:41.196 --> 0:01:44.116 or a big brother, and my case was an older cusion. 0:01:44.876 --> 0:01:48.236 He was really into the old school hard rock stuff, 0:01:48.356 --> 0:01:51.116 like a Metallica Iron Maiden, So I grew up with 0:01:51.316 --> 0:01:57.196 listening to his tapes. Then I moved on to grunge 0:01:57.196 --> 0:02:00.556 a bit, because I mean I didn't really choose it, 0:02:00.636 --> 0:02:02.716 you know, it was what you were exposed to on 0:02:02.876 --> 0:02:09.556 MTV and everything. Then I had a new metal phase 0:02:09.956 --> 0:02:13.196 for a short time, not so sure. 0:02:13.116 --> 0:02:19.316 Any any specific any album, Yeah, you were talking about 0:02:19.316 --> 0:02:22.596 it and on the way here, like I was willing 0:02:22.636 --> 0:02:26.756 to con and uh but like yeah for a few 0:02:26.796 --> 0:02:30.956 albums and and uh yeah, and I had readlocks because 0:02:30.956 --> 0:02:33.076 of them for a short time. 0:02:34.236 --> 0:02:39.196 So I'm sorry for over sharing. But there's like, for 0:02:39.316 --> 0:02:41.996 those who know how to search, there's on Google there's 0:02:41.996 --> 0:02:45.076 one picture of him with red locks. So for for 0:02:45.156 --> 0:02:47.236 all the really big girls here, I'll be what is 0:02:47.276 --> 0:02:50.516 what is one search? I will not We've said everything, 0:02:50.596 --> 0:02:53.596 so now if you're really the girl, you will find it. 0:02:53.796 --> 0:02:55.956 Responsibilities on us to find it. 0:02:56.716 --> 0:02:59.916 Responsibility or guilt because you don't know what what you're 0:02:59.916 --> 0:03:02.756 gonna find. It can be easily made with a idols 0:03:03.476 --> 0:03:06.436 might make you. However, to look at this picture. 0:03:07.316 --> 0:03:09.716 Oh man, I had dread lock still, but I think 0:03:09.756 --> 0:03:12.716 it's just a little different probably. 0:03:13.156 --> 0:03:18.596 But somehow I can imagine it's not that's bad. You know. 0:03:19.756 --> 0:03:20.916 Did you have a new metal phase? 0:03:21.676 --> 0:03:26.836 No? No, never. I mean like like like like one 0:03:26.836 --> 0:03:29.996 of the first albums I really loved was the first 0:03:30.196 --> 0:03:33.796 regigaenst the Machine album. But that's not I mean that's 0:03:33.916 --> 0:03:37.556 new metal technically because it's a guy rapping on metal. Yeah, 0:03:37.676 --> 0:03:39.356 but it's it's much more than this. You know. 0:03:39.556 --> 0:03:43.236 They kind of created it sadly maybe in a way, 0:03:43.276 --> 0:03:44.236 although you know, like. 0:03:44.436 --> 0:03:47.636 Yeah yeah, like like it's the only band I've ever 0:03:47.756 --> 0:03:50.716 listened to in that type. No, I just handed a 0:03:50.716 --> 0:03:53.396 bit too a band then Squad too that was like 0:03:53.436 --> 0:03:56.916 the Dutch equivalent of regigaenst the Machine. 0:03:57.156 --> 0:03:57.796 What were they? 0:03:58.036 --> 0:04:02.436 Oh band? Then Squad the medal track called magog Listening. 0:04:03.636 --> 0:04:05.916 What was your trajectory in terms of what you started 0:04:05.916 --> 0:04:08.716 listening to and how alone? 0:04:09.276 --> 0:04:15.196 First the first album I Boat was a doggie style. 0:04:16.356 --> 0:04:21.996 And the Dark Star Yeah, so it's beautiful, yeah, yeah. 0:04:21.796 --> 0:04:24.676 And still today, I love this album and I still 0:04:24.676 --> 0:04:29.156 listen to it and and because of this album, I 0:04:29.196 --> 0:04:35.756 started to listen to Parliament and Funkadelic and so my 0:04:35.876 --> 0:04:39.716 second city, the second CD I bought was Uncle Jam 0:04:39.796 --> 0:04:45.276 Wants You, And that's fun because I bolted because it's 0:04:45.396 --> 0:04:47.996 because he only has eight songs on it. It was 0:04:48.116 --> 0:04:50.996 less expensive with cheaper than the other ones, so that's 0:04:50.996 --> 0:04:55.036 why I bought this one, and I didn't really like it. 0:04:55.036 --> 0:04:55.316 First. 0:04:55.596 --> 0:04:58.316 I liked knee Deep and a Freak of the Week, 0:04:58.356 --> 0:05:04.116 of course, but years after my favorite songs on them 0:05:04.356 --> 0:05:07.276 on this album are more like a film Maneuvers and 0:05:08.396 --> 0:05:10.996 only Wants to Go to California. That are not the 0:05:11.116 --> 0:05:15.156 songs that I liked at the moment. But but because 0:05:15.676 --> 0:05:18.796 I didn't have money and I forced myself to listen 0:05:18.876 --> 0:05:22.636 to this record over and over and and and and 0:05:22.676 --> 0:05:25.756 like all good things, it's it's like, really of Tony, 0:05:25.796 --> 0:05:28.876 it's not the things that strike you first that stay 0:05:28.916 --> 0:05:33.916 with you, but more the under dogs songs and uh 0:05:33.996 --> 0:05:36.796 and yeah, I miss that a bit with like the 0:05:37.076 --> 0:05:39.716 new way we listen to music and not being able 0:05:39.796 --> 0:05:45.276 to like I can't like and I'm not scared, but yeah, 0:05:45.716 --> 0:05:48.916 I'm scared of thinking how many of my favorite songs 0:05:48.956 --> 0:05:51.956 I missed because I just listened to the singers or 0:05:51.996 --> 0:05:55.836 like the most popular songs of an album or an artist. 0:05:56.156 --> 0:05:58.796 It's really easy not to listen to a full album. 0:05:58.916 --> 0:06:00.956 I mean, I'm so guilt. I hate listening that way, 0:06:00.996 --> 0:06:02.676 but I'm completely guilty of it, you know. 0:06:02.956 --> 0:06:09.436 Yeah, yeah, it's it's very easy, but but but easy 0:06:09.476 --> 0:06:12.956 way of of not doing so. And this is what 0:06:13.036 --> 0:06:16.396 we do a bit still is buying vinyls, Like the 0:06:16.436 --> 0:06:19.156 albums I really want to listen to, I buy vinyl, yeah, 0:06:19.956 --> 0:06:22.236 and then I just I just put it on and uh, 0:06:23.156 --> 0:06:26.116 and I try not to do anything else. It's very 0:06:26.156 --> 0:06:30.356 difficult not to be tempted to listen to record and 0:06:30.596 --> 0:06:32.756 watch something else at the same time. But it's but 0:06:32.836 --> 0:06:34.916 it's worth it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:34.916 --> 0:06:36.396 It's like reading a book these days. It's like you 0:06:36.396 --> 0:06:38.916 have to if you dedicate yourself to do it, it's 0:06:38.956 --> 0:06:41.276 worth the time. But yeah, it's hard to slow yourself 0:06:41.276 --> 0:06:41.996 down enough to. 0:06:42.676 --> 0:06:45.396 Yeah, and exactly the same way, like like it's it's 0:06:45.436 --> 0:06:48.636 really rare to get into a book before you have 0:06:48.716 --> 0:06:52.396 read at least like one hundred pages of it and 0:06:52.436 --> 0:06:54.836 then it's it's like you you start getting in it 0:06:54.956 --> 0:06:58.796 and and you stop reading and you start just like 0:06:58.996 --> 0:07:01.516 fluing in it and do the same with the record. 0:07:01.676 --> 0:07:03.916 Yeah, yeah, what do you think it is about the 0:07:03.956 --> 0:07:07.756 Snoop Dog record about dog Star that makes it still 0:07:07.836 --> 0:07:09.636 good today? 0:07:12.516 --> 0:07:17.716 Everything like like like first is that pretty much every 0:07:17.796 --> 0:07:22.356 song on Dougie Style is a nassemblage. It's like a 0:07:22.476 --> 0:07:26.676 blend of like three songs of a Parliament and Frankadelics, 0:07:26.756 --> 0:07:30.476 So they're starting from a good material and then doctor 0:07:30.556 --> 0:07:35.676 dre as the great producer that is, he made it 0:07:35.716 --> 0:07:38.276 the right way to make this song in something modern 0:07:38.316 --> 0:07:42.676 and sometimes even better than the original tracks that he sampled. 0:07:44.156 --> 0:07:49.356 And Snoop at this moment was, yes, such a cool 0:07:49.596 --> 0:07:55.236 character he was at the same time, Uh a bit 0:07:55.596 --> 0:07:57.916 especially for me because I grew up in like a 0:07:59.676 --> 0:08:06.076 white Paris suburbs, so that was the exact opposite of 0:08:06.156 --> 0:08:07.796 what I what I knew, you know what I mean. 0:08:07.836 --> 0:08:13.196 So it was so exoti fascinating, Yeah, fascinating. You know. 0:08:13.916 --> 0:08:19.156 His rap was amazing, like yeah, there's so many, so many. 0:08:19.316 --> 0:08:22.116 His voice was really good. I mean it's still it's 0:08:22.156 --> 0:08:25.556 still iconic and still sounds but when you do listen 0:08:25.596 --> 0:08:27.676 to that era of him, You're like, wow, his voice 0:08:27.716 --> 0:08:29.396 was particularly. 0:08:28.876 --> 0:08:32.676 Yeah, very specific, specific voice. It doesn't sound like anyone 0:08:32.716 --> 0:08:37.356 else in the rap and and yes so no yeah, 0:08:37.676 --> 0:08:41.716 and even like the cover like this Bad Lead Rone cover, 0:08:41.916 --> 0:08:48.236 it's like completely yeah, amateur fanzine thing. It's yes, so good. 0:08:48.676 --> 0:08:51.996 Yeah, similar to like how Parliament funk Delic color album, 0:08:52.116 --> 0:08:54.236 I mean the album covers are. That was paed Ro 0:08:54.316 --> 0:08:59.436 Bell that did the Funkadelic and Parliament covers, and then 0:08:59.476 --> 0:09:01.636 it was just guy Joe Cool from Long Beach it 0:09:01.756 --> 0:09:03.756 just died recently, that did the Snoop Dogg cover. But 0:09:03.956 --> 0:09:08.636 I always felt inspired by like those hand drawn Funkadelic covers. 0:09:08.636 --> 0:09:11.916 To me, it is but but but the Parliament scatic 0:09:12.036 --> 0:09:17.116 ones are like they have a level of professionalism that 0:09:17.236 --> 0:09:20.716 the Snoop one doesn't have. But this is more psychedelic. 0:09:21.756 --> 0:09:24.276 And this is when the Snoop ones are great because 0:09:24.276 --> 0:09:27.956 they really feel true. You know, is a bit like 0:09:28.596 --> 0:09:32.956 it's not really well drawn. It looks very here, very rough, 0:09:33.556 --> 0:09:36.836 but it suits the project perfectly for you. 0:09:36.796 --> 0:09:39.996 Listening in the music was it was the art work 0:09:39.996 --> 0:09:42.956 important because you guys, we're both like graphic designers before. 0:09:43.556 --> 0:09:46.876 Yeah, and and and I mean especially like back in 0:09:46.916 --> 0:09:50.756 the days when you had to to save money to 0:09:50.836 --> 0:09:55.676 buy your record, so obviously you would go for the 0:09:55.716 --> 0:09:58.556 cover you liked better. And if you had the choice 0:09:58.636 --> 0:10:03.756 between two records you wanted to get, and and and yeah, 0:10:03.796 --> 0:10:07.036 and and we bought like so many vinyls just for 0:10:07.156 --> 0:10:13.396 the cover. And sometimes you have this this perfect like 0:10:13.556 --> 0:10:17.516 match between what the cover is and and the music. 0:10:18.716 --> 0:10:27.276 But yeah, like we we definitely like did our graphic 0:10:27.356 --> 0:10:32.596 design education through vinyl covers and stuff like this because 0:10:32.716 --> 0:10:36.596 it's the perfect format and it's really like the the 0:10:36.796 --> 0:10:43.276 blend between like typography, photography, illustration and and on such 0:10:43.316 --> 0:10:50.476 a like concise square. You know, it's just perfect. 0:10:50.996 --> 0:10:57.236 Yeah, yeah, did you guys draph from a young age. 0:10:57.556 --> 0:11:02.276 Yeah, we we both wear But but I guess Part 0:11:02.356 --> 0:11:06.676 rose pretty well. I think I'm not too good now better, 0:11:07.196 --> 0:11:10.996 but you're very good at this, is very good at handwriting. 0:11:11.676 --> 0:11:17.276 You can really has a school graphity guy past. You know. 0:11:18.196 --> 0:11:21.276 Now I'm good at analytic drawing, but I'm not good 0:11:21.276 --> 0:11:23.636 at illustration. And guess part is a better illustrator. 0:11:23.876 --> 0:11:28.036 So analytic drum you mean more like like like. 0:11:29.556 --> 0:11:31.356 I call it like this because it was the name 0:11:31.356 --> 0:11:33.716 of the courses we had. But it's like, if if 0:11:33.756 --> 0:11:36.796 you show me like an object with the structure, I 0:11:37.076 --> 0:11:40.156 can I can enjoy it because like analytic drawing is 0:11:40.196 --> 0:11:44.836 about understanding the structure of something, and but I'm drawing. 0:11:44.876 --> 0:11:47.036 It's this, you know, it's understing how things are made 0:11:47.516 --> 0:11:50.956 and then just like draw them. So this I can do. 0:11:51.156 --> 0:11:54.596 So you draw more the way like an architect or engineer, I. 0:11:55.316 --> 0:12:00.156 Wouldn't go that far from more that direction. Then no, no, 0:12:00.916 --> 0:12:03.276 because like I can draw human body or whatever. We 0:12:03.356 --> 0:12:06.276 had like anatomic courses, so I understand how it's made 0:12:06.276 --> 0:12:08.196 and I can do it. But that doesn't make me 0:12:08.236 --> 0:12:10.796 a good drawer. Like a good drawer someone that can 0:12:13.116 --> 0:12:15.756 transfer good idea into a drawing and make you feel something. 0:12:16.196 --> 0:12:18.276 If I draw a spoon, it would look like a spoon, 0:12:18.796 --> 0:12:21.036 but you will not feel anything looking at it. 0:12:21.796 --> 0:12:27.156 That's funny, man, did how how did you two come together? 0:12:28.316 --> 0:12:32.956 We met in a in a party in a kitchen, 0:12:33.196 --> 0:12:36.556 because it's always in the kitchen that you're having the 0:12:36.596 --> 0:12:41.716 most fun at parties most of the time, and just 0:12:41.756 --> 0:12:47.276 through common friends, and we started like like laughing about 0:12:49.276 --> 0:12:51.476 what is still making us love today? You know, like 0:12:51.676 --> 0:12:58.836 just a bit of absurd humor and like just just yes, 0:12:59.076 --> 0:13:04.956 stepping away from reality and finding precise words to have 0:13:04.996 --> 0:13:07.716 fun of it. You know, I think it's if we 0:13:07.996 --> 0:13:11.156 are our favorite and humor is. But I mean, the 0:13:11.196 --> 0:13:15.596 best humor is always about precision in terms of words, 0:13:15.596 --> 0:13:18.236 you know, the choice of worlds to describe something. 0:13:18.676 --> 0:13:21.156 Yeah, how did you guys bond over music? 0:13:25.356 --> 0:13:29.676 We both had a few like pieces of gear, but 0:13:29.756 --> 0:13:33.476 it was really radimental. Does it exist that word radimental? 0:13:33.556 --> 0:13:33.716 Yeah? 0:13:33.796 --> 0:13:34.516 Yeah, okay? 0:13:35.356 --> 0:13:36.996 And elementary yeah. 0:13:36.956 --> 0:13:42.836 Radimentary okay. And and at the time we used to 0:13:43.836 --> 0:13:48.076 hang out a lot in pown shops in Paris, but 0:13:48.196 --> 0:13:52.236 they used to have like some pieces of equipment like 0:13:52.276 --> 0:13:57.796 synthetizers and also records, and we could not afford the synthesizers, 0:13:58.156 --> 0:14:03.916 but we would buy records and listen to them. And 0:14:04.476 --> 0:14:09.036 the common friends that introduced us to each other. How 0:14:09.236 --> 0:14:14.036 the indie label, like a proper indie label, where they 0:14:14.076 --> 0:14:17.716 were like burning cities and then mailing them out by hand, 0:14:17.756 --> 0:14:20.956 you know, printing the covers on a home printer, So 0:14:21.036 --> 0:14:26.196 that was like a proper one. And the and yeah, 0:14:26.236 --> 0:14:28.116 two things happened at the same time is that they 0:14:29.156 --> 0:14:31.756 were making compilation and asked all their friends to make 0:14:31.756 --> 0:14:34.636 a track, so we decided to make one together and 0:14:34.716 --> 0:14:39.156 at the same time we received the stems of Simeon 0:14:39.996 --> 0:14:46.036 never Buloon for a remix contests in Paris, and this 0:14:46.116 --> 0:14:48.796 is when we made we Are Your Friends. So that 0:14:48.796 --> 0:14:51.356 that was, yeah, the first track we made alongside the 0:14:51.396 --> 0:14:52.916 other one that we met for our friends. 0:14:53.236 --> 0:14:54.996 That's really graz thought for sure. The must have been 0:14:55.076 --> 0:14:57.756 a couple more songs before that that just never came out. 0:14:58.436 --> 0:15:02.076 No, No, that was really like the beginnings. And we 0:15:02.356 --> 0:15:04.516 didn't have a computer at the time. We had like 0:15:04.596 --> 0:15:11.716 a Chai S two thousands simpler, uh gas band, had 0:15:11.716 --> 0:15:18.996 a Boss drum machine, doctorism, a cop Poly eight hundred, 0:15:20.116 --> 0:15:26.636 and we had like a Maquis mixer, uh an Archai expander, 0:15:26.756 --> 0:15:29.756 so that was doing your piano sounds. And yeah, that 0:15:29.916 --> 0:15:31.916 was made with this with no computer. We burned to 0:15:31.996 --> 0:15:34.556 CD and that was the master of the track. 0:15:34.756 --> 0:15:36.116 Did you guys even know how to use all the 0:15:36.196 --> 0:15:39.436 equipment just yet or was it kind of just experimenting 0:15:39.516 --> 0:15:41.916 the figure out how to use it? And then now we. 0:15:41.876 --> 0:15:44.476 Still don't know to be honest, nor for real, like 0:15:44.476 --> 0:15:48.356 like synthetizers are really not good at it. But because 0:15:48.476 --> 0:15:52.676 like to properly use a synthesizer, you need to understand 0:15:52.716 --> 0:15:57.836 like the electric architecture of us, because this is electricity 0:15:57.916 --> 0:16:01.916 running through things, you know. Yeah, and we never made 0:16:01.916 --> 0:16:05.156 the effort of learning. So if we have a citylizer, 0:16:05.276 --> 0:16:08.476 if we find like a good preset that we like, 0:16:09.236 --> 0:16:12.196 we can tweaky to beat to make it sound exactly. 0:16:12.236 --> 0:16:15.276 But we can't, like if you will hand us like 0:16:15.356 --> 0:16:18.636 a mini moog or harp or whatever. We can't start 0:16:18.636 --> 0:16:21.236 from like a noise or no ocillator and then get 0:16:21.276 --> 0:16:23.036 what we want. You know, that's impossible to do. 0:16:24.356 --> 0:16:26.636 And did you guys play do you guys playing instruments 0:16:26.676 --> 0:16:27.116 before that? 0:16:28.236 --> 0:16:32.276 Yes, we used to play in high school bands. I 0:16:32.396 --> 0:16:37.476 used to play bass and guitar, and Guess drums and piano. 0:16:38.196 --> 0:16:39.996 We're never in the same groups. 0:16:40.196 --> 0:16:43.316 Oh yeah we did, yeah pre internet. Yeah, at the 0:16:43.356 --> 0:16:46.516 same time as we started Justice, we were in the 0:16:46.556 --> 0:16:50.556 backing bend of a friend of us and Guess but 0:16:50.836 --> 0:16:53.996 was playing the drums and I was playing the bass. 0:16:54.556 --> 0:16:56.436 Well, you guys probably lacked in rhythm section. 0:16:56.596 --> 0:17:00.076 We guys like, yeah, we're not that tight. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:00.236 --> 0:17:04.396 we were that now, thank god the computer happened. Yeah, 0:17:04.596 --> 0:17:06.076 computer saved us. 0:17:06.756 --> 0:17:09.756 So how did you guys, how exactly did you put together? 0:17:09.796 --> 0:17:14.196 We are your friends, how did you guys manage that together? 0:17:14.996 --> 0:17:18.076 But so we received the stems for this like remix 0:17:18.156 --> 0:17:22.276 contest that was on a on a student radio in Paris, 0:17:23.796 --> 0:17:26.956 and uh, and because we didn't have a computer, just 0:17:26.956 --> 0:17:32.356 a sampler, we listened to the vocal parts and we 0:17:32.436 --> 0:17:35.916 asuly is related the chorus because we couldn't, like there 0:17:35.996 --> 0:17:38.516 was not enough memory of the on the sampler to 0:17:38.596 --> 0:17:43.556 take more. And we looked that thing and then we 0:17:43.596 --> 0:17:47.276 started like writing music on it. And we didn't even 0:17:47.316 --> 0:17:51.876 listen to the original track because we just had these 0:17:51.876 --> 0:17:55.876 stems and uh, and so we we just wrote music 0:17:55.956 --> 0:18:00.676 to those, like to those vocals exactly the same way 0:18:00.676 --> 0:18:02.836 as if the guy was here like singing something and 0:18:02.876 --> 0:18:06.916 we would just like play with him. And but but 0:18:07.436 --> 0:18:10.836 the process is still the same same today, Like we 0:18:11.276 --> 0:18:12.356 just like play around and. 0:18:13.356 --> 0:18:15.756 You both each will have something and you'll play against 0:18:15.836 --> 0:18:17.476 each other or you'll each. 0:18:18.076 --> 0:18:24.516 Uh, it depends. It's like sometimes we play together, but 0:18:24.596 --> 0:18:29.876 it's pretty rare. Like most of the times we take turns, 0:18:29.916 --> 0:18:34.476 like like one of us he's like starting something and uh, 0:18:34.636 --> 0:18:37.556 and then when the other one has an idea or 0:18:37.956 --> 0:18:41.116 when the other one sees that the other one is 0:18:41.196 --> 0:18:45.756 like has like he's just like circling around, just jump 0:18:45.836 --> 0:18:49.156 in and then continue. And that's how we make things 0:18:49.316 --> 0:18:49.956 most of the time. 0:18:50.556 --> 0:18:52.556 It feels like from the beginning and maybe I'm wrong, 0:18:52.596 --> 0:18:55.236 but it's just my impression from having well and it 0:18:55.316 --> 0:18:59.876 actually we get to that next it from you as perspective, 0:19:00.396 --> 0:19:03.156 how did We Are your Friends get as popular as 0:19:03.156 --> 0:19:03.436 it did. 0:19:05.036 --> 0:19:09.636 It's diffintively slow burner because it's like, like the big 0:19:10.836 --> 0:19:13.196 luck that we had is that we made this track. 0:19:13.276 --> 0:19:20.596 We lost the contest and we met Pedro Winter like 0:19:20.756 --> 0:19:25.476 two weeks after losing the contest. We knew who he 0:19:25.636 --> 0:19:28.796 was and for those who don't know, like at the time, 0:19:28.836 --> 0:19:33.836 he was a Death Mounk's manager, and so we end. 0:19:33.836 --> 0:19:36.676 Up and yeah. 0:19:36.196 --> 0:19:39.636 Exactly, and he ends up coming coming to gas Path 0:19:39.716 --> 0:19:45.036 place for dinner because our friend bertrand Somi was like 0:19:45.916 --> 0:19:48.476 working on ed Banger the label with him and they 0:19:48.476 --> 0:19:53.236 were just starting it together, and so we we knew 0:19:53.236 --> 0:19:56.076 that he was looking like for like new artists and 0:19:56.236 --> 0:19:59.716 that he was a Death Monk's manager and he was there, 0:19:59.796 --> 0:20:03.316 so we at some point we told him making some music. 0:20:03.796 --> 0:20:06.956 We haven't made much, but we can play you the stuff. 0:20:06.996 --> 0:20:08.796 So we just had we are your friends to play 0:20:08.876 --> 0:20:12.756 him another track and we played it to him like okay, 0:20:12.916 --> 0:20:15.396 so we made this for contest. We lost, but we werena, 0:20:15.436 --> 0:20:18.836 we're gonna make more ifever you're interested, and he was like, nah, 0:20:19.436 --> 0:20:22.996 like give me this one. I want to release this one. 0:20:23.476 --> 0:20:26.316 So like yeah, basically, like two months after we started 0:20:26.356 --> 0:20:31.316 making music, we were signed to ed Bunger with this 0:20:31.436 --> 0:20:34.316 guy that was a French hero, you know. So we 0:20:34.436 --> 0:20:38.996 are very very happy and excited and he released the 0:20:39.116 --> 0:20:47.836 track not with not too much response. I mean it 0:20:48.036 --> 0:20:52.396 was okay, but it was not crazy. But because that's 0:20:52.396 --> 0:20:54.676 always the same thing, like like you can you can 0:20:54.796 --> 0:21:00.796 be like with a manager, you can be the biggest 0:21:00.796 --> 0:21:03.316 band in the world. If you do like a side project, 0:21:03.716 --> 0:21:06.396 you start from zero again. And with that BEng girl, 0:21:06.436 --> 0:21:08.876 I started from zero again like like people who were 0:21:08.916 --> 0:21:11.716 interested in Dastank of course, but not in the new 0:21:11.756 --> 0:21:12.556 stuff he was doing. 0:21:12.636 --> 0:21:13.996 It's like, let me play the stuff. 0:21:14.996 --> 0:21:17.116 Yeah, So he was really like doing it like a 0:21:17.236 --> 0:21:19.876 Garia style, you know, like he was like pressing like 0:21:19.916 --> 0:21:23.876 five lynd records. He was like driving on his like scooter, 0:21:24.636 --> 0:21:27.476 putting them in record stores by himself. So it was 0:21:27.636 --> 0:21:33.876 very like all handmade. And then I think one year 0:21:34.276 --> 0:21:37.876 and a half after it gets really released on Gigolo Records. 0:21:37.956 --> 0:21:42.076 It's the German label in Munich, it's a DJ hel 0:21:42.396 --> 0:21:46.436 record label. And then in two thousand and six it 0:21:46.476 --> 0:21:52.636 gets released again on Virgin Records, and this is when 0:21:52.676 --> 0:21:56.396 it started like becoming something more. So that was three 0:21:56.476 --> 0:21:59.236 years after after we released it. 0:21:59.316 --> 0:22:00.756 She has made it in two thousand and three. 0:22:01.076 --> 0:22:07.436 Yes, but everything we do is like slow. We only 0:22:07.476 --> 0:22:10.596 make slow burners, you know it. So d NC was 0:22:10.596 --> 0:22:14.356 the same our first album. It's only after like one 0:22:14.436 --> 0:22:19.396 year or something that we saw like like the first 0:22:19.556 --> 0:22:22.636 hundred one hundred thousand copies of it. Really yeah, it 0:22:22.756 --> 0:22:25.716 was like all very slow. What was of Nazareth? Our 0:22:25.836 --> 0:22:29.956 summon track was really slow, so like we had we 0:22:30.036 --> 0:22:32.316 saw the foots of that like one year or two 0:22:32.396 --> 0:22:38.516 years after. So yeah, like like making like an instant 0:22:38.596 --> 0:22:42.196 hits is definitely not our forte. 0:22:42.876 --> 0:22:49.876 We'll be back with more justice after the break. My 0:22:49.956 --> 0:22:52.396 memory of the first album was like that it was 0:22:52.796 --> 0:22:56.636 kind of like instantly popular, like you know. 0:22:56.876 --> 0:23:00.276 Because your trendsetter. Maybe it was for you, maybe it was, yeah, 0:23:00.316 --> 0:23:02.516 but but it was not for the for the for 0:23:02.596 --> 0:23:03.876 the people in general, you know. 0:23:03.876 --> 0:23:05.996 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I remember, I just remember everyone 0:23:06.916 --> 0:23:10.956 having like we are your friends and everyone parties in California. 0:23:10.996 --> 0:23:13.036 You would play it and everyone be like, oh, like 0:23:13.076 --> 0:23:15.316 there's no like remembering, like there's no album. Like that's 0:23:15.316 --> 0:23:18.476 weird because it sounded like such a like a coherent 0:23:19.076 --> 0:23:20.876 sounds like they must have like a bunch of stuff 0:23:20.876 --> 0:23:23.196 and remember like there's nothing, like where's the other stuff? 0:23:23.236 --> 0:23:26.516 And then now, yeah, it's fun because we are your friends. 0:23:26.556 --> 0:23:32.036 I guess like Siman did it, and and and probably 0:23:32.276 --> 0:23:37.036 with some kind of tongue in cheek like intention, and 0:23:37.036 --> 0:23:40.076 and and and so we kind of took this element 0:23:40.196 --> 0:23:44.476 out and and and it became like this very almost 0:23:44.596 --> 0:23:50.436 like very positive and almost naive, you know, like lyrical 0:23:50.556 --> 0:23:55.316 content and which is something like we could never come 0:23:55.396 --> 0:23:58.396 up with, you know, like just saying we are your friends, 0:23:58.436 --> 0:24:01.916 You'll never be alone again. It would be impossible for 0:24:01.996 --> 0:24:05.996 us to to yeah, to get along with those lyrics. 0:24:06.556 --> 0:24:10.116 And I guess this is what made the track popular 0:24:10.196 --> 0:24:13.916 as well, is that because the music goes into that 0:24:14.236 --> 0:24:21.116 kind of naivty direction, but with more more groove, and 0:24:21.156 --> 0:24:25.156 obviously it's more repetitive, but it's it's its completely like 0:24:25.356 --> 0:24:30.596 changed the angle of the track. Go ahead now, Yeah, 0:24:30.756 --> 0:24:33.796 it's it's interesting because I can't imagine like coming up 0:24:33.836 --> 0:24:36.876 to Gaspan and telling him you listen, we're gonna make 0:24:36.916 --> 0:24:39.276 a song. It's gonna say where your friends, You'll never 0:24:39.316 --> 0:24:41.996 be alone again, so come on and sing him the 0:24:42.036 --> 0:24:46.116 hood and him saying, yeah, let's do it right now. 0:24:46.276 --> 0:24:46.956 I know. 0:24:47.196 --> 0:24:48.756 I think it would look at me and tell me 0:24:48.836 --> 0:24:52.636 like to fuck off. So it's it's very interesting. Like 0:24:52.676 --> 0:24:55.796 when we make music, we often think of this, like 0:24:55.796 --> 0:24:58.916 like would we be able to come up with the 0:25:00.036 --> 0:25:02.356 reefs such as like seven National me from is the 0:25:02.356 --> 0:25:07.316 best example of a reef that like if we we 0:25:07.756 --> 0:25:11.636 would find it, I think we would studied immediately. Uh. 0:25:11.676 --> 0:25:13.956 And the genius of those people is to manage like 0:25:14.036 --> 0:25:17.836 to to think, to like recognize what's gonna be, like 0:25:17.916 --> 0:25:21.276 something huge, and then be focused enough to manage to 0:25:21.316 --> 0:25:23.316 finish a track with it. 0:25:23.396 --> 0:25:27.236 Yeah, to your point, guys, but like that is such 0:25:27.236 --> 0:25:30.116 a naive lyric. But the way you guys, what you 0:25:30.156 --> 0:25:33.076 guys orchestrated around it does almost make did make it 0:25:33.116 --> 0:25:37.436