1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hey, Michaelangelo here. You know, Joe and Jack have interviewed 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different people over the years, and one 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: of the most I don't know, strangest, weirdest interviews they 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: did was with Larry Flint back in two thousand three. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Mr Flint passed away yesterday at the age of seventy eight. Um. 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: He was known, of course for Hustler Magazine and other 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: pornographic ventures, but he also fought for freedom of speech. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: He was big on the First Amendment. Uh. Larry Flint 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: was a candidate for governor believe it or not, during 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: the recall election in California, and so Joe and Jack 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: talked to him, and UM, here's how it sounded. But 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: before we play it, I just want to say it 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: was a long, droning interview. It was kind of it 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable. I remember running the show and it 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: being very uncomfortable just because, quite frankly, we couldn't understand 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: him very well because he did get shot in the 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: spine and it did affect his speech. You know, Plus 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: you're talking to a pornographer. Hustler magazine is very controversial 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and um certainly used to be very controversial in way 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: not my cup of tea. But so, without further ado, 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: here is uh Joe and Jack interviewing Larry Flint back 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand three. We're waiting for the appearance via 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: telephone of Lawrence Flint. Gubernatorial candidate. Larry Flint will ask 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: him how the campaign's going and how he likes his 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: chances for tomorrow. Yes, okay, great, Mr Flint is on 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the line. Good morning, Larry. How are you all right? 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: How are you? We're great? How's the gubernatorial campaign going? 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: How do you like your chances tomorrow? All right's going 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: pretty good? But uh, I didn't really uh So I 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: had a shot, you know, but I felt the platform 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: was cheap, and I I wanted to say about how 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: could be approved rationally farm perfect ly far and allowing 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: slot machines for priving to see those I felt that 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: would balance the budget. And so I've been able to 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: get out my word over the last let's say week. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: H it's not pretty effective. Maybe some of some people 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: will say, hey, the do it's about ibi for hour, 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: or maybe some of the candidates to Bob, they feel 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: the same way. You know, I almost wish you'd taken 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: that gambling thing a little longer and louder, just because 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: I've always wondered, you know, if if it's okay to 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: run a casino for an American Indian, why not white 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: people with a gigantic budget deficit. Either gambling is okay 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: or it's not. Yeah, well you know the sad part 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, every state in the U for the Indians, 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: have gaming. Uh they have compacts where they pay a 47 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: large procent pacenti to the revenue to the state, but 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: not in California. But say the reason why they don't 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: in California because you don't know four years uh Uh, 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: the Indian to pay us over five billion dollars. So 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: and they give him for that body for one reason. 52 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: One reason, so well, they don't want to have to 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: share a piece to pie with the state. And also 54 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: they don't want the private zeros to get any special 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: rights because they don't want to compete with them. It's uh, yeah, 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: the most unfair thing I've I've ever witnessed for my 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: thirty five years and big in business, I would agree 58 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: with you on that one. Uh. Speaking of business, how 59 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: goes the porn business these days? What do you prefer? Erotica? 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: It's great, you know, but I knew I can never 61 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: get the people of California to separate my candidacy for 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: my profession. But uh, you know what the hell, one 63 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: of these days, uh, all these people won't be so 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: up tired about SEXTI. Larry Flynn is speaking of the 65 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: thirty ninth anniversary of the free speech movement on campus 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: in Berkeley. Uh, he's a guest, I guess of the 67 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: a c LU Martin Luther King Union, seven o'clock tonight. 68 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: What's the state of free speech in America? Mr? Flint? 69 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Not very good? You know. They the Patriot Act, pretty 70 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: hefty blow, you know. Uh, and they used the oldest 71 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: trick in the book of politish wants to copyish after 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: you just scare the people and tell them about you're 73 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna fix it. And they only scared the American people, 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: but they scared Congress as well. Now we've got a 75 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: situation where the president attorney general had it either right 76 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: to attorney or can have access to your medical records 77 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: or financial records, even the books you check out of 78 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: a library. Um, and even if you do have an attorney, 79 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: all of your uh conversations can be can be monitored 80 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: by them. And what happened. The average of record says, well, 81 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: that's for territs that don't affect me. Well, that's not true. 82 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: This is not limited just people involved in terrors. So 83 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: it could be used and gets any American in the country. 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: And as a breakers what said you know that people 85 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: who are welling to trade their civil lebrities for security 86 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: deserve neither. And I think UH Bush could have got 87 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot by taking a page out of their Franklets book. 88 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: It's it's really really a very frightening situation. I don't 89 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: think there's any chance of paper UH Patriot Act too, 90 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: through which they're trying and there is a lot of 91 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: UH Congress, food Etceterators on both sides of the out 92 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: which are trying to roll back the UH patriarch one 93 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: now as it is because people are beginning to realize 94 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: that they gave h the government to biche say if 95 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: they would have lonely stopped to think, you know, Americans, 96 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: but a beacon freedom in the world, Uh everything to 97 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: it is exist. And when we after nine eleven push 98 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the Patriot Act, that means that we was getting right 99 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: now in the mud with the terrorists and we were 100 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: no difference in amor no better, and we were confessing 101 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: that our court systems, you know, I could not deal 102 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: what Terry is. Man. Uh, it's one of the most 103 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: awful things that I don't know with. Uh, well, listen 104 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: to that. We're at risk of running out time. I 105 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, no matter what you 106 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: think of Mr. Flint's core business, he is one of 107 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the great first Amendment watchers and American history. But one 108 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: more question about the core business for the record, sir, 109 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: not you as a businessman, but as a man. Silicone, 110 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: yes or no telicone? Is that what you say? Yeah? Yeah, 111 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a natural man myself. You hate it? Okay, Well, 112 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: we wondered where you stood on that show. Larry Flint 113 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: is a king tonight at you see Berkeley about free speech, 114 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: the what God gave a woman, That's what I'm saying. Well, 115 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: if you've ever browsed through a Hustler magazine, and I 116 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: actually haven't looked at one for years, Jack, come back 117 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: to Hustler. But um, if it's anything like it used 118 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: to be, free speech is alive. And well I mean 119 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Patriot Act aside. I mean, you know, obviously there's plenty 120 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: of uh, just a raw sex They're available in any 121 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: news stand practically in America, and just they say in 122 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Husler magazine, I mean, the most amazingly vile things about 123 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: politicians that have ever been said in the history of 124 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: the earth and get away with it. So I mean, 125 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, you gotta admit free speech is doing 126 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: all right. Yes, yes, it bears watching. I mean I 127 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: couldn't even describe to you some of the things they 128 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: say or depict about, you know, presidents or senators in 129 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: that magazine, and nobody's you know, nobody's coming down on 130 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: them for that. Often they portrayed them as human as 131 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: I I agree with him on the Indian casino thing. 132 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: It is the most amazing thing that has happened that 133 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: you allow one business to go out there based on 134 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: race and they don't have any competition, they don't get 135 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: any competition, and they don't have to pay any taxes 136 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: based on race. Standing back to Fifty's absolutely amazing. It 137 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: is stunning. What a crazy, crazy world. Larry Flint, first 138 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: time I've ever actually talked to him. Yeah, yeah, I'd 139 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: like to have a conversation between Larry Flint and Ozzy Osbourne. 140 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: I think it sounds something like this funny. We can 141 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: you imagine that little azzi with it? No, I can't. 142 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: I can't make fun of a guy who's shot in 143 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: the spine. I can't. I just can't. How about a 144 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: guy who's bitten the neck by a tiger? I see 145 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: your point. Let's what time is the regroup? I think 146 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,239 Speaker 1: we had a regroup. All right, let's regroup. We're completely ungrouped. 147 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Your calls stand up to show Please hold just for 148 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: another moment or two. Figure. I'm afraid he was gonna 149 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: die on the phone. I was really worried about that. 150 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Ah God, that's uncomfortable. You know, normally we're okay with 151 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: interrupting people. I feel it feels feels disrespectful. He's a pornographer, 152 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: can be disrespectful to Larry Flint. Well, that was an 153 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: interesting interview. I guess it's kind of weird and strange. 154 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Um not particularly great actually, to be honest with you. 155 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: But we did find out that apparently Larry Flint he 156 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: liked natural breast, and uh so do Joe and Jack Well, 157 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: and that that was really about it. I mean, he 158 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: never did become governor, obviously, and it was just a 159 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: strange interview. Was one of those interviews that we had 160 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a controversial figure on the air, but really not a 161 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: whole lot came out of that interview, to be honest 162 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: with you. He kind of talked, said his thing, and 163 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: then left and that was pretty much it. Although I 164 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: did like the fact that I used porno music to 165 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: uh as bumper music to go out from the segment. 166 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: That was kind of fun. I thought that was clever. 167 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: So well, I guess that's it.