1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe, Catty Armstrong and Jettie. 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: And Pee. 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Caddy Strong. 5 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 4: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 4: good stuff for you. 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed we do. 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: And if you want to catch up on your ang 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: listening during your travels, remember grab the podcast Armstrong and 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: to get podcasts. Now on with the Infotainment. 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: I got started on this jag because it's happening at 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: a local skateboard park and it reminded me of something 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 4: that happened to me years ago in la and I 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: wanted to tell this story again because it drives me nuts. 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: It's a great example of the conflict of visions that 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 4: Thomas Soyl talks about between conservatives and progressives and just 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: different ways of seeing the world and stuff like that, 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 4: where I can't get in the mind. I can't even 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: understand the point of view of the people I'm about 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: to talk about, and they can't understand my point of view. 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: So we've got a local story here in Fulsome, California. 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: That's right, that Fulsome. I heard the training come and 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: coming around the bend. I shot a guy just for 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: fun whatever. That whole thing Fullsome skateboard park where for 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: a couple of reasons, they're talking about doing away with 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: the attendants at the skateboard park. The attendant's job is to, 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: it says, stop graffiti from happening, break up fights, and 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: to make sure skateboarders have helmets and pads on wouldn't 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: they skateboard? The city is saying they don't have enough 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: money for the attendant. A whole bunch of skateboarders showed 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: up to various meetings and said, nobody goes because nobody's 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: gonna wear all those pats. 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: So what's the point. 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: I just saw a video up on the TV and 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: it showed one kid in this giant, glorious looking skateboard park. 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: One kid's skateboarding, and it said on there it said 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: they've had five hundred and eighty people a month on 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: average during summertime. That's nobody's I did the math, that's 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: nineteen a day or something like that. That's nobody. You 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: should have two hundred kids a day there. I've had 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 4: this experience drives me nuts. When I went to Los Angeles, 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: my son was super into skateboarding. One time we went, 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: we went to LA just to do like a tour 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: of skateboard parks. He'd never been to different ones, and 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 4: I thought, in LA's probably got a lot of great 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 4: skateboard parks. We'd been to the one on Venice Beach 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: and checked that out. As we traveled around, almost every 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: skateboard park we went to, which was empty on a 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 4: beautiful day eighty degree like it always isn't a La 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 4: eighty degrees, slight breeze, This beautiful sunshine, empty skateboard park 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: in the summertime, but an attendant there saying, I'm sorry, 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: you can't skate here because you don't have the pads. 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: Because we didn't bring pads. 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: I always had him wear a helmet, but he didn't 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: have elbow pads and knee pads and all that sort 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: of stuff, so he couldn't skateboard there. And the first 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: one it was like annoying. The second one it was 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: like annoying times five. By the third one, actually, I 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: found a skateboard park that was packed full of people 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: skateboarding because they didn't have an attendant, got to skateboard 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: for a while, tried a different skateboard park, also empty, 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: with a person there with a clipboard attending it. And 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 4: that's when I started getting angry and lecturing people and saying, yes, 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: do you realize there's a skateboard park like a mile 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: from here that's packed full of people's skateboarding, kids baking. 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: You have nobody here, So what are you accomplishing? 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 5: You? 70 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Why did you build a skateboard park. 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: It's empty on a gorgeous date, nobody's using it. 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: Well, we need to make sure kids are safe. 73 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you don't, but you might as 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: well not have a skatebo either have one or don't. 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: But you're not stopping kids from wrecking on their skateboard 76 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: because they're not skateboarding, or they're traveling further away to 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: go to some place where they don't have to wear pads. 78 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: And every I said this at several skateboard parks, and 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: all they did was look at me like I'm an 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: angry lunatic, partially because I was an angry lunatic. 81 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: But I like, I can't get in the headspace. 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 4: Of anybody who could be an attendant, or the parents 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: who think that's a good idea. Better to have an 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: empty skateboard park than to let our kids skin their 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: knees or elbows. 86 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: The paternalism probably a poor choice of words, since some 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: of these people are literally fathers, but the condescension, the 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: nannyism of it is disgusting to me. The idea that kids, 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, for the first time in human history, 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: can't within reasonable bounds a that's their own risk tolerance 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: and their own willingness to endure the negative consequences of 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: overdoing it. I mean, for the first time in human history, 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: kids must be protected from banging up their elbows and knees. 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: I do not get someone coming to that conclusion and 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: being so pleased with themselves. 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm horrified by it. 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm disgusted by it literally because I see what it's 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: doing the generation of kids, generations of kids. 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: Why do kids have so. 100 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 2: Much anxiety because they haven't been allowed in general, because 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: they haven't been allowed to develop a sense of risk 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: tolerance throughout their lives and confidence that they know. 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: What they're doing. They're veal caves. That's indisputable. It's been documented. 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: As we've talked about before, Europe has figured out that 105 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: they're doing away with like the super safe parts and 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: stuff like that. They're moving toward kids doing more dangerous stuff, 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: banging their heads and elbows and stuff more often. Because 108 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: it's good for you for all kinds of different emotional reasons. 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: But I also wonder just what it does to children. 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: I know with my kids, part of it. What it 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: does to children to see all these stupid, freaking, they 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: don't make any sense laws. I know it's made my 113 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: kids less respectful of all laws, is what it's done. 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: And of course it would because when you're confronted with 115 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: stupid ones, it makes you think everybody who makes laws 116 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: is stupid? So why would I pay attention to this 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: one because that one's obviously dumb. 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: If Thomas Jefferson were here, he might say, first of all, 119 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: what are those metal things flying through this guy? But 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: he would also say, this reminds me of that discussion 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: you guys had about rent controls like twenty minutes ago. 122 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: This is the same thing. 123 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: You have a market of faith or respect for the law, 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: and your sons have seen more and more stupid. 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Useless, paternalistic laws. 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Their faith in the laws declining, they will behave politically 127 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: in a way that. 128 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: Ends that as soon as they can. 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: If indeed, you can fight the nanty state and they 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: will be beaten back by your son's disgust with a paternalism. 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: I know a woman who is super nice and very 132 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: helpful to me, and just like the nicest person in 133 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: the world, have been very helpful to me in all 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: kinds of different ways of my life. But she told 135 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: me the story and I kept my mouth shut about 136 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: how when the skateboard park in my town opened up, 137 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: how she and another mom they would go there on 138 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: the weekends and set up and monitor to make sure 139 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: all the kids were wearing the proper pads and helmets 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: and everything like that. And she said she kept it 141 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: up for a summer or two, but they just couldn't 142 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: keep up the schedule. I did, I just like, were 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: you a kid ever once? And maybe a few girls didn't. 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: Did you notice the boys did bang their knees and 145 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: have bloody eb have s scabs on their elbows and 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: knees constantly as a child, And did you think that 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: that was. 148 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: Just awful, like Aschwitzer. 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: Or something like that, that they were having scabs on 150 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: their knees. It's like the most normal thing in the 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: world for a ten year old boy to have a 152 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: scab on his knee. 153 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't hold back. I generally say something in 154 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: situations like that. It's probably why I have very few friends. 155 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: But uh, yeah. 156 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: Well I can't stop short of you're a psycho, because 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: I think you are. 158 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: I see that's your problem. 159 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: How do you not look around an empty skateboard park 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: and think, well, this is somehow self defeating If we 161 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: have nobody using the skateboard park, I'm not sure what 162 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: we're doing. 163 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: Here, right exactly? Yeah? 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, you gotta develop going from emotional 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: gear one to five. 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It was our vacation. 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: We were there and we couldn't go anywhere. So I 210 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: finally found I had to go to like two stores. 211 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: Finally found a bike store where they sold knee pads 212 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: and elbow pads, stuff like that, just so we could 213 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: go skateboard. We went to one and they said they 214 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: weren't the right kind of elbow pads. And I don't 215 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: think I've ever been angrier in my life, and I 216 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: just couldn't let it go. It was like my head 217 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: was gonna pop off. I hate that feeling where I 218 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: just it's a cognitive dissonance I just can't make. I 219 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: couldn't make the empty skate park, skateboard park, beautiful day. 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with this, It doesn't hurt anything to 221 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: bang your knee. All fit into my head. It just 222 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: was making me crazy. 223 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Right right, There is absolutely a vein of especially you know, 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: it clicked in my head when you got to that 225 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: example of oh yeah, he's got elbow pads, but they're 226 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: not the right cod right that That is absolutely the 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: intoxication of power aiding What I was going to talk 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: about here, just the great CS. Lewis quote, which we've 229 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: used many times on the show. But of all tyrannies, 230 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim 231 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: maybe the most oppressive. It may be better to live 232 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: under robber barons than under omniptent, moral, busybodies. The robber 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity or greed may 234 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: at some point be satiated. But those who torment us 235 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: for our own good will torment men us without end, 236 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. 237 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: So true, I want to popular popularize the saying, maybe we. 238 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: Gotta get T shirts going safety. 239 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: Third, yeah, I and people would ask what Wait, Wait, 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: isn't the expression safety first and the safe. Maybe the 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: back of the safety third T shirt would have one 242 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: courage two curiosity three safety safety third. Right, I'll bet 243 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about handing your four year old of 244 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: forty five letting them squeeze off a couple of shots. 245 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: We're talking about kids riding their bike at a parking 246 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: playing ball. 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure the one woman still tells stories about the 248 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: bald lunatic. Okay, because I remember walking away, have fun 249 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: monitoring your empty skateboard park. You're doing a lot of 250 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: good for the world. I was so mad. 251 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she cannot conceive of what you were trying to communicate. 252 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: Now she thinks that, thank god, if I hadn't been here, 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: that lunatic would have let his kids skateboard without me pads, 254 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: how many people would have died. 255 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: It's a it's a stereotype, and it's oversimplified because there 256 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: are many tough, smart, great women who have helped make 257 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: America great. But we have gone from maybe too much 258 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: of a daddy society to too much. 259 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: Of a mommy. 260 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: So, without a doubt, oh, we are clutching our children 261 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: to our aprons and not letting them risk a single thing. 262 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Good Lord, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 263 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: More Jack your Joe podcasts and our hot links Jack 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened in the. 266 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: Keys honey or oh my god, I'm sorry, I'm sorry 267 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: that I don't know what to say to that. 268 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 3: I apologize. Go ahead the question here. I'm sorry, I 269 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: been totally thrown Yeah, I can imagine. I'm a little 270 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: thrown by that. Also, if I'm being honest, I don't 271 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: know what to say. Well, go ahead, you've only gone 272 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: a minute and seven. The so the lawyer talking to 273 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: the judge drops off, honey, Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. 274 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm a little thrown by that. Yeah, me too. I 275 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: gotta play that for my daughter. Oh that's funny. 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: She's getting ready to audition for her call law school 277 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: mock trial team, which is a very very good one. 278 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: And the idea that you would accidentally call the judge 279 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: honey is just. 280 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: Can I hear that again? Well? Just yeah, go ahead. 281 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: This could have been three separate, but it wasn't three separate. 282 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: Let's go with what happened in the Keys. 283 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: The honey, Oh my God, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that. 284 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 5: I don't know what to say to that. I apologize. 285 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: You know, that's good. 286 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: You turn to the bailiff to say, let me borrow 287 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: your gun and just do the right thing. 288 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: It's over. Oh that's hilargy. I'm sorry. I'm a little 289 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: thrown by the Yeah, me too. You gotta play that 290 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: for your dad, Katie, who was a judge. Oh yeah, 291 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: and the and the honey. 292 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: Was like in a just kind of a half condescending yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, 293 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: very much. 294 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: So, oh honey, come on, let them, let the men 295 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: handle this. 296 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: His only possible savior is to call his wife in 297 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: the court and say, your honor. We had a bit 298 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: of a go around this morning. I was arguing with him, 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: he was arguing with me. It's probably stuck in his head. 300 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean, because that's. 301 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: That is pretty funny. 302 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that the fact that he can't just 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 4: move on, I just, oh, he's. 304 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: So horrified by what he's done. He's just got to say, 305 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: your honor. 306 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm filing a writ of vacation and I am going 307 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: to become a plumber. 308 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: Somebody else needs to take over this case. Yeah, what 309 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: kind of trial? It is, But like, if he's defending me, 310 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: i'd send him, Hey, can I get my money back? 311 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: Or can I get a lawyer who doesn't call the judge? Honey? 312 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: Is that possible? 313 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: Hey? 314 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for not calling her bitch a counselor holy cow, 315 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: there's going to be an assault charge next year, honor 316 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: give me just a saying with this guy, I. 317 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: Would stand up. Did everybody hear that? See that? Do 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: I deserve my money back? Show hands? I'd raise my hand, yeah, yeah, 319 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: give him his money back. Oh that's funny. What are 320 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: fridge cigarettes? I like to hip you, obviously to new 321 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: phrases and things like that, whether they're acronyms or two 322 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: words blended together or whatever, you know, staycations, whatever they are. 323 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: What kind of summer we're supposed to have? That's right? 324 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: What are we having? We had this last week? Who 325 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: was a therapy bro summer? That's what we're having? Oh goodness, 326 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: too many summers and moons? Fridge cigaretts. 327 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: It's your pop in the refrigerator, soda in the refrigerator, 328 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: you know, like sitting is the new smoking. 329 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: Somebody actually said that to me the other day and said, 330 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: I believe sitting is a new smoking, And I think 331 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: they weren't trying to be funny. I think they just act. 332 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 4: They were trying to pretend that they came up with 333 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: that on their own, and they were presenting it to 334 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 4: me anyway. I just let it rolls. Fridge cigarettes, you're 335 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 4: drinking soda. It's like smoking cigarettes taking years off your life. 336 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good turn off. 337 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 338 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 6: Why did spoke at a bipartisan event to encourage Democrats 339 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: or Republicans to work to protect social security together? Which 340 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: seems about as likely to happen as a reboot of 341 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 6: Fiddler on the Roof starring Kanye West. But social security 342 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 6: is number one for Joe Biden. Literally, his social Security 343 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 6: number is one. 344 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting as a lead into this Republicans 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: newark Ats not being able to work together. It would 346 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: seem that they could work together on cutting spending based 347 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 4: on this polling that just came out from the Cato Institute. 348 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: CATO is a serious think tank. It's a conservative think tank. 349 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: They worked with you GOV on this survey and it's 350 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: one of your really big, large number of people, wide 351 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: reaching lots of questions sort of survey that comes out 352 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: every once in a while from these think tanks. I 353 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: don't know which of these numbers is my favorite. There's 354 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: a lot of them that are just mind blowingly make 355 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: me happy, But I can't believe because public will is 356 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: a real big part of getting anything done in a democracy. 357 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: Obviously, if you got big. 358 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: Majorities of people that want something to happen, you should 359 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: be able to get it to happen and run on it. 360 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: Here's my favorite of all the spending we've done in 361 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: the last ten years, and we've done a lot of 362 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: spending in the last ten years. 363 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: Eighty five percent. Now that's a big number. 364 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: Whenever you get eighty five percent of people in agreement 365 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 4: on something, you'd think you could get. 366 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: Political will to do something. 367 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: Eighty five percent say that spending is either not helped 368 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: them or made their lives worse. 369 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: Eighty five percent. That's astounding. 370 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: You wouldn't get that from taking it in through the 371 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: mainstream media, who feels like all government programs are wonderful 372 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: and doges trying to cut back on any of them 373 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: as a horror. Eighty five percent of Americans say all 374 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: that spending has either not done anything for me or 375 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: actually made my life worth the worse forty two percent 376 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 4: no impact, forty three percent say it reduced to their 377 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: quality of life. 378 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: Wow, that's got to be inflation, which is the greatest 379 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: teacher of economic principles in the history of mankind. 380 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, ors, just I regularly say, and this is true 381 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: for me in my own personal life. I believe the 382 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: government stops me from doing things more than it helps me. 383 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I think so. I mean, And well, do 384 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: you drive on the roads? Yeah? We we know you're 385 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: an idiot. Courses. I'm not even gonna explain why you're mora. 386 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: I know, moron. 387 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: And by the way, this is a non partisan observation. 388 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: Eight and ten Democrats and nine and ten Republicans believe 389 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: that the increase in federal spending has either made their 390 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 4: lives not better or worse. 391 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: Boy, this is really heartening, I know, if the Republican 392 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: If the Republicans can keep between the ditches and not 393 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: roll the car of their messaging over, it seems to 394 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: me like the ground is super fertile for some good, 395 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: solid conservatism in the years to come. 396 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: Three quarters of Americans say the government spends too much. 397 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: Love that seventy six percent the government spends too much. 398 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 4: And again it's not a partisan thing at all. Majorities 399 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: of Democrats fifty nine percent of Democrats think the government 400 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: spends too much money. 401 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: Well, you'd never get that from the main from your 402 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: mainstream media coverage. 403 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the question of what do you cut and 404 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: how and how much? 405 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: That's the devil is in the details. But we do 406 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: have an enormous. 407 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: Generalized agreement that, yeah, we need to cut again two thirds. 408 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: You get the opposite message from all of the coverage 409 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 2: of doges, for instance. 410 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: So almost everyone agrees there is waste frauden abuse in 411 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 4: the federal government. The number is ninety eight percent. I 412 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 4: have out know if I've ever seen a poll that 413 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: reached ninety eight percent. Usually you have more than two percent. 414 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 4: They're like, no opinion, I don't know, refuse to answer. Yeah, 415 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: but would you like me to stab you right now? 416 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: You might get ninety eight percent saying no, no opinion, 417 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: ninety I'm not sure stab me as what. Ninety eight 418 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: percent broadly agreed there is waste frauder abuse in the 419 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: federal government. 420 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: Of course, just to say no, you'd be a crazy person. 421 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: About half say there is a great deal, oh yeah, 422 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: than twenty percent a moderate amount. 423 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: If hundreds of millions of dollars isn't a great deal 424 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: to you, what are you elon Musk or something? 425 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: Man? 426 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said, there's so many good numbers here, 427 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: I don't even know which ones to pick out the 428 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: most this one. One of the reasons this got attention 429 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 4: was some of the tax stuff yesterday. Fifty five percent 430 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: of Americans think their taxes are too high. 431 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: Which I thought was really interesting, especially especially given what 432 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: we were talking about yesterday on Tax Day that the 433 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: top forty percent or so of income levels pay all 434 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: of the income tax. 435 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: But fifty five percent of American seature taxes are too high. 436 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 4: Fifty five percent same number believe they pay more than 437 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: their fair share in taxes. That obviously is interesting given 438 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: the fact that half the country does not pay federal 439 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: taxes federal income tax. 440 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: Although you have to remember, you know, a property tax 441 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: hammers a lot of people, sales tax. 442 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: Sales tax. 443 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: I think it's probably what gets a lot of people sure. 444 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 4: How about the controversial Trump tax cuts from twenty seventeen 445 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 4: and whether they should be extended or not. According to this, 446 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: eighty five percent of Americans support extending the twenty seventeen 447 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: tax cuts. 448 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: Eighty five percent. It's a gift of million airs and 449 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: billion ass. How is this a controversial issue? 450 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: If the mainstream media was not what they are, could 451 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: Democrats win a single election as they're currently constituted. 452 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 453 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: They need some of the best wordsmiths. Well, actually most 454 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: journalists are wordsmiths at all. They're parrots. But they need 455 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: the power of the media colossus to polish their their 456 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: poop if you will. I'm sorry, I just didn't want 457 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: to use that common expression polishing a turd because it's disgusting. 458 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: But that's said. But it's good though. It's illustrative, Jack, 459 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it really makes the point there's got to 460 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: be a better doing. 461 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: There's got to be a better one, is there? It 462 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: got to be that doesn't include the T word. 463 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: Thoroughly lipsticking the pig of their policies. 464 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 465 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: So three quarters of people agree with the statement the 466 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen tax cuts should be made permanent because businesses 467 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: and families need stability of the tax code to plan 468 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: for the future. 469 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: Three quarters agree with that. 470 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: Also, three quarters agree that tax cuts should be made permanent. 471 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 3: Because taxes are too high. 472 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: Three quarters of Americans think the Trump tax cuts should 473 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: be made permanent because taxes are too high. 474 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: Wow, did you hear the pot about the millionaires? 475 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 476 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: You did? Oh you're rejecting it. I gotta get to that. 477 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: Then, since you brought that up, do the spending, because 478 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 4: you'll that fits in perfect what you just said. A 479 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: majority of Americans admire the rich. Sixty two thirds disagree 480 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: with the statement wealth should be taken from the rich 481 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: and given to the poor. 482 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: Two thirds of Americans disagree with that. 483 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Wow, this is a different country than the media would 484 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: have you believe. 485 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: I'd zastly different. 486 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: Three out of five Americans strongly agree ninety percent strongly 487 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: or somewhat agree that quote. There's nothing wrong with trying 488 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: to make as much money as you can. Ninety percent 489 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: strongly or somewhat agree with that. 490 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 491 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: When asked specifically about billionaires, seventy one percent disagree that 492 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: it's immoral for society to allow people to become billionaires. 493 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: Seventy one percent don't agree with that statement. You hear 494 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: it all the time from the AOC Bernie crowd, Elizabeth 495 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: Warren crowd, and they put it on the news like 496 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: that's you know, representing half. 497 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: Of America, right right, Yeah, And anybody who does think 498 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: we should make it impossible to you know, become a billionaire, you. 499 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: Just you're so dumb. You are so dumb. We just 500 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: need you to get out of the way, please. 501 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: As if you come up with a great idea that 502 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: one person likes and it makes you a dollar, that's fine. 503 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: If a million people like that idea and give you 504 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: a dollar, that's fine. 505 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: But if a billion people like that idea and give 506 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: you a dollar, that's wrong. 507 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: Or to borrow again, you're just so dumb you need 508 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: to get out of the way. Well, not near as 509 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: many people agree with that as I thought. And I've 510 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: been misled myself. And you know, we're in the industry 511 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: and taking lots of media and read lots of polls, 512 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: but I've been misled to think there that in modern 513 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: America there were way more people that hate the rich 514 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: and think something's wrong there that it seems to be 515 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: true two thirds think wealth should not be taken from 516 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: the rich and given to the poor. 517 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just didn't know. So. 518 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: I think part of the reason that our perception might 519 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: be a little warped is that even Some of my 520 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: favorite conservative journalists are of the coastal elites forty and 521 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: they're nice fellas, and they have great principles, but I 522 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: don't think they know America and listen to say absolutely 523 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: do not. This is going to sound awfully like a 524 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: self backpadding, but I think as a couple of guys 525 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: from you know, fairly average families in the Midwest, I 526 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: don't feel like an elite anything. I've never hung out 527 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: with those people. I wouldn't be comfortable there. I would 528 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: much rather, you know, a drink beer with my neighbor, 529 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: Larry the truck driver. I just and I think maybe 530 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: we have that advantage, and we, all of us friends, 531 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: have to trust our own perceptions instead of that of 532 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: the bizarro funhouse. 533 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: Mirror of the media. 534 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: I know a lot of you already believe that the 535 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: fact that eighty five percent of people say all that 536 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: government spending has done nothing for them or made their 537 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: lives worse is amazing something. Yeah, and you know over 538 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: half of people say my taxes are too high. All 539 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: that fitting together, how do we not get a government 540 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: that spends less and keeps taxes low? 541 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, part of the answer would 542 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: be the swamp, which includes many Republicans and Democrats who 543 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: have a absolutely enormous financial interest in keeping government huge. 544 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 4: Right, there are solid majorities, and I could do more 545 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: of than numbers, but I don't want to bore you 546 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: to death. But the solid majorities of people that think 547 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 4: it's the spending it's not the taxing. I mean that 548 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: is that is a settled issue in this country. It's 549 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: the spending, not the taxing, and we need to deal 550 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: with it from a spending standpoint. So we're not getting 551 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: the government we deserve on this front. 552 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so true. It's encouraging people believe that in 553 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: the numbers that they do. It is discouraging that we 554 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: are fighting to make any. 555 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: Progress in reigning in the insanity. 556 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: But right, yeah, because it's our duty is citizens, So 557 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: I guess we keep trying. 558 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's barely, uh, you're barely able to believe that 559 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: democracy works. I mean, you know, look at the order issue. 560 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: That's what I've been saying for years. It's not controversy 561 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: at all either, Like people want to secure border, but 562 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 4: we haven't been able to do it in my entire 563 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: adult lifetime, right, right, very frustrating. Yeah, yeah, it is 564 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: nice job of those of you out there who agree 565 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: that all this spending has made your life worse of anything. 566 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 567 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Armstrong see Armstrong and Getty show. 568 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely need a moonshot style effort to reform education in 569 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: this country because it is absolutely killing us. Michael, it's 570 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: a campus madness update, good and bad news editions, good 571 00:29:50,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: and bad news, screaming, how's madness, you idiot, I'm campus. 572 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's quite discream Yeah, no kidding. 573 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: So disembovement figures into the story somehow, so well metaphorically speaking. 574 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: So we'll start with some good news, really interesting piece 575 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: about Tufts University, which is to the left of Trotsky 576 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: Boston area. But there's a professor by the name of 577 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: Hirsch there who teaches a class on American Conservatism that 578 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: is always one hundred percent enrolled and extremely popular, and 579 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: he a man of the sane center left, has them 580 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: read Frederick Hayek's Road to Serve them at Ininran's The 581 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: Nature of Government, and then has lefty writers assigned as well. 582 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: That says, all right, let's talk about this issue. 583 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: And it is a classic American education where you have 584 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: to understand both sides before you say which one you're on, 585 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: and he is systematically steel manning conservative arguments for the 586 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: college kids. And the really encouraging part about this is 587 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: the kids love it. That's interesting, and poll after pol 588 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: has shown that a lot of college kids resent the 589 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: cancel culture and the bully culture and the radical culture. 590 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: But they just they're afraid or you know, intimidated into silence. 591 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: And there's a lot more curiosity out there than I 592 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: think you would think from looking at college camp. 593 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: God, are we. 594 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: Actually coming out of peak that? And we'll never have 595 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: to deal with it again, at least in our lifetimes. 596 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: I mean, did we just live through the pendulum swinging 597 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: to the far end of that nuttiness? 598 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: I share hope. So I don't know. I don't know. 599 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm a little afraid of it. 600 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: Being like a sports team that you know, has a 601 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: very bad beginning of the season, then they win six 602 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: in a row and you think, all right, and then 603 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: that is just a blip and they go back to 604 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: being bad. I think there's so much of a fight 605 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: to go on, But let me plunge on here. 606 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: We can talk about this at length. 607 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: A great piece in the Free Press about how all 608 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: over the country including in some surprising places, educators are 609 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: covering up for their own failures wholesale. We should have 610 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: the best education system in the world, they write, We 611 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: should have an education system that reflects us being a superpower. 612 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: But there's no one with a straight face who can 613 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: say that the United States has a world class education system. 614 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: And that's from a higher up in the New Jersey 615 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: Department of Education, now retired. But they go through place 616 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: after place where because they are failing to meet any standard, 617 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: they are systematically changing the standards, including this shock to me. 618 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, Oklahoma schools seemed to perform a miracle. 619 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: They went from twenty four percent proficiency in reading to 620 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: forty seven percent in two years. 621 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: You set number, doubling the previous figure. You see that 622 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: number in a year. You know something funky happen? 623 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, indeed, if it sounds too good to be true, 624 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: that's because it was. In last year Oklahoma lowered its 625 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: cut scores score a student needs to hit on a 626 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: test to be considered proficient. 627 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, that's good hearts law. Oh yeah. Once once a 628 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: measure becomes a goal, it ceases to be a good measure. Yep. 629 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: Trend is also happening in New York State. After not 630 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: a single eighth grader in the upstate city of Schenectady 631 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: tested proficient in math in twenty twenty two, state officials 632 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: lowered the scores the following year, Wisconsin lowered cut scores 633 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: last year. Illinois is about to lower its scores, et cetera, 634 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: et cetera. 635 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: We did it. 636 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: It's a lot of blue states, but Oklahoma shocked me. 637 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: And we've done it in California a couple of times. Well, 638 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: it speaks as much to the nature of bureaucracy as liberalism. Well, 639 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: it's a good hearts law. I mean that seems to 640 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: be a law no matter what you, no matter your politics, 641 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: you come up with a goal, or you measure something. 642 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: Then you come up with a goal, and then you 643 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: just fudge to meet the goal, and so the measure 644 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: doesn't work anymore. 645 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 3: And that's it happens over and over again. 646 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 4: I can come up with one hundred examples off the 647 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: top of my head, because I think it's a fascinating 648 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: aspect of the way the human brain works. But how 649 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 4: are there not people raise their hands saying, we can't 650 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: be lowering the standards. We need to raise the quality 651 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: shield tradition. 652 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right right, lift up the children, don't drop the standards. 653 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 3: That'd be a good slogan. 654 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: Veering back to good news, the Department of Education on Friday, 655 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Cancer which still exists, apparently canceled fifteen million dollars in 656 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: federal grants that were used to fund diversity programs at 657 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: three universities in California, State, La, Virginia Commonwealth, and University 658 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: of Saint Thomas and Minnesota. All had received giant, multimillion 659 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: dollar grants, part of a billion dollars a billion that 660 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: the Biden Education Department spent on diversity programs in America's schools, 661 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 2: nearly half of which went to grants for race based hiring. 662 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: That is, at least temporarily on the way out. Now 663 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: back to bad news. Two stories here that are adjoined 664 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: at the Hip Brown University Medical School that's one. 665 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: Of your elite IVY leaguers. By the way, elite. 666 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: I almost vomit when I say that about these universities. 667 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 2: But they now give diversity, equity and inclusion more weight 668 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: than excellent clinical skills in its promotion criteria for faculty 669 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: raising questions. Duh about the equality of teaching and patient 670 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: care at the elite medical school and underscoring how deeply 671 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: deis penetrated medical education. Again, when they decide what faculty 672 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 2: to promote, they now give DEI more weight than excellent 673 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: clinical skills. 674 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: I saw that over the week in medicine. I meant 675 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 3: to mention on the air that is absolutely amazing. 676 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: I was looking at the actual paperwork, the criteria, and 677 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: really your plan for how you're answering the question of 678 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 4: how you're going to get diversity, equity and inclusion into your. 679 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Your medical practice is. 680 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: More important than your actual skills, right, That is how 681 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: it's important. 682 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: How is that even possible? 683 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, Borjack or Joe podcasts 684 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: and our hotlinks and Armstrong and get dot com