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We'll discuss 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.840 how the company is disrupting the wireless carrier space with AI. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:28.080 Well. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.720 Last week I spent the week in Hawaii on a 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:35.600 much needed family vacation. It was amazing. The whole point 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.640 was to bring my mom. She had never been to 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.920 an island and it was her dream to go to 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.880 an island. And so I said, you know what, We're 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.800 going to Hawaii. And we actually had this trip planned 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.760 a couple of years ago. But on the way out, 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.400 and I know my mom's going to be embarrassed for 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.120 me telling this story, she actually tripped over her suitcase 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.400 on the way to get to the airport. So she 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.240 had her suitcase in the hallway at her place and 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.560 she just didn't remember that it was there. She tripped 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.880 and got pretty pretty banged up, and so she could 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.560 not go on the trip three years ago. So we 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.360 redid the trip, brought her this time. We said do 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.800 not put your suitcase in a main area, and she didn't. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.440 She made it. It was great. We had a fantastic time. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.120 I tell you that because I had You know, whenever 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.880 I'm on vacation, I do try to disconnect but of 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.040 course I have lots of thoughts in the process. So 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.360 I did wear the vision Pro on the plane out there, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.959 and yeah, it was weird, just as weird as you 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.520 might imagine. It was cool, and you know, putting it 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.560 on was the weirdest part. Thankfully, we had the whole 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.840 row to ourselves, between my whole family, and so it 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.079 wasn't that strange to put it on next to a stranger. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.560 But once you get it on, you have to make 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.200 sure that it's in this travel mode. Otherwise everything's going 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.520 to be flying past you. Because it senses the movement. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.360 It feels like you are moving, so all the stuff 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.160 inside is moving. Now. Thankfully Apple is smart enough to 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.040 build in some software that figures out when you're on 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.400 a plane, because it only moved for about a second 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.000 before I said, hold on, do you want us to 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.120 put this thing into travel? And I said yes, please. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.880 So I watched a TV show. Now, whatever I tried 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.280 to download on Max did not work, so I was 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.760 relegated to my apples Apple TV Plus show. I forget 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.880 what the name of it was, Royal Palms or something, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.320 and it looked great. And the cool thing was I 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.440 discovered you can actually decide where you want to sit 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.079 in the movie theater when you're watching a show, so 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.440 it had you can sit close up to the screen 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.200 in the middle, in the back, or up on the balcony, 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:28.679 and then you can say I want to sit left 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.720 or right. So that was kind of cool and the 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.880 show looked great and it really did take me off 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.400 the plane and kind of into my own world. So 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.280 no matter what seat you're in, whether it's a big 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.160 seat a small seat, anyone's around you, you really don't notice. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.840 The other thing is I tried the in flight Wi 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.440 Fi so Southwest that's what I flew on. They have 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.480 just like you know, movies and TV shows that you 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.720 can stream through their Wi Fi without paying, And I 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.400 was like, huh, I wonder if that works inside like 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.800 the web browser, And sure enough it did. The only 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.520 thing I noticed with the Southwest WiFi was a it 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.720 was very very slow. I was even able to do 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.520 my email on the way back. On the way there, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.360 I didn't connect. On the way back, I did, and 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:07.880 it was so slow I had to stop using it. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.720 And the other thing is that you can't swap devices. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.440 So I started on my computer and I was like, oh, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.480 it'd be nice to have my phone connected and I 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:19.560 couldn't swap devices otherwise. Kind of interesting experience. Now, the 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:24.000 bigger revelation I had when I was in Hawaii is 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.359 that we are all contributing to job automation. Let me 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.479 tell you what my thesis is. If you don't bring 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.760 something uniquely human to your job, you are going to 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.920 be automated out of your job. Let me say that again, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.039 If you don't bring something uniquely human to your job, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.680 you are going to be automated out of a job. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.120 Let me explain for starters. I tagged my own bag 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.000 at the airport. I have never done this before, but 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.160 you get to the airport typically now we are all 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.080 checking in on those kiosks. Well, now the second step 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.320 is it spits out a bag tag. So I am 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.760 there as a flight attendant or whatever you call the 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.680 people at the you know, helping you there, tagging my 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.320 own bags like I'm literally an airline employee. Now how 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.000 do I know how to tag a bag? And it 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.640 took me a little bit, but I figured out you 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.520 kind of take the sticker off, you put it on, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.320 you get it right. And I had to redo it 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.440 a couple of times. But here I am checking bags 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.640 in to an airline. How would I ever think that 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.760 I would be doing that. But again, there is no 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.560 human element that would make that process better. So it's automated, right. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.280 It's like clearly with all these bags that people are 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.080 checking in themselves, it all sort of works out. So 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.479 that's automated. On the plane, the flight attendants were so 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.359 kind and so nice. They decorated the whole plane. We 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.839 flow out on Easter. They decorated the whole plane with 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.880 Easter eggs. They gave us candy, they gave us snacks, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.200 They were talking to the kids. They were so nice. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.800 My mom, who had never flown Southwest, said they are 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.840 such a nice airline. They are so friendly, and I said, yeah, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.640 that's what will keep those people's jobs. Now, the pilot 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.400 of the plane, I know nothing against the plight. They 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.600 got us there safely. But I will tell you there 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.560 are some pilots that sort of describe the flying process 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.599 to you and some that just fly. The ones that 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.159 just fly probably going to be automated at some point. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.360 The ones that are kind and say, hey, look we're 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.640 flying over the Grand Canyon. Take a look outside the 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.360 right of your plane, they will always be there because 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.640 they bring something uniquely human to the experience. What are humans? 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.640 What do we want? We want connection, We want a smile. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.919 Bobo every week comes to this show with a smile 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.800 on his face and an attitude that you can't get 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.160 from a computer. He will always have a job. There 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.359 are some people at your work that are always saying, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.120 TGI Friday, Thank God it's Friday. On Monday, they're talking 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.479 about looking forward to the weekend. They're wearing a shirt 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:45.880 that says is it Friday? 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:46.159 Yet. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.520 These are the kind of things that will be automated 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.680 in the future, and we're all contributing to it because 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.479 we're already doing this. Okay, we went to a restaurant. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.240 We went to a restaurant and the waiter comes up. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.400 The waiter is not nice, and they don't write down 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.320 our order. Now I have a little pet peeve about 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.400 waiters not writing down orders because I order my things 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.920 very specifically. I want egg whites, I want them well done, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.800 I want this, then that whatever. So when someone doesn't 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.040 write it down nine times out of ten, it's gonna 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.280 be wrong when it comes to your table. So here's 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.120 the difference. Why would I not want to order on 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.280 an iPad. Now we're talking breakfast at a fast casual place. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.680 We're not talking a fancy dinner here, but breakfast. Why 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.400 would I not want to order my breakfast off a 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.160 tablet right when I get to the table because I 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.720 want my breakfast fast, I'm ready to eat, I want 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.160 my coffee. I don't need to wait ten minutes for 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.400 a waiter to show up. I don't need to wait 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.480 for someone to be rude to me at nine am 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.040 when I'm just waking up. So what's the benefit there 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.400 is none. You literally just need your order in and 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.679 someone to run you your food. And we're already seeing 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.880 robots running orders at restaurants. I was at a CPK 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.120 where the robot came to my table with our order. Yeah, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.520 it's already happening. And again, as humans, if we don't 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.720 mind that part of the experience, we are automating these 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.400 jobs out of existence. Now again, when we were at 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.680 a restaurant our final night there, we went to this 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:12.400 amazing restaurant sort of like Japan meets Italy meets meets Hawaii. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.760 It was a great chef, brand new place, and the 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.000 waiter was fantastic. What do we talk about the entire 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.320 night was how great the waiter was. That waiter will 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.280 always have a job. You see where I'm getting at here, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.360 touch screen systems. We were at McDonald's. We ordered on 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.720 touch screen. We didn't need someone to take our order there. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.840 We just wanted to. And the kids love it, the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.439 digital natives as they call it, my kids, they grew 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.040 up with this technology. No problem there. That job is 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.800 already being automated out of existence. The order taker at McDonald's. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.800 Some McDonald's had been to you can't even order from 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.920 a human being. It's already gone. Ah, what else? What else? 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:55.680 What else? Oh? Other examples Peloton Right, took a Peloton 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.120 ride this morning. What makes me want to take a 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.400 Peloton ride versus some automated ride that I can get 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.000 from a multitude of apps on my phone. The instructor. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.320 The magic of Peloton has always been the personality of 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.160 the instructors, and they know it. People tune in for 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.400 their favorite Peloton instructors. They will always have a job. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.560 There are millions of people out there working jobs right 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.600 now that bring nothing to the table except being a human. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.480 You have to add something that's human for your job 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.480 to not go away. DJs on a radio station. Some 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.320 people love their favorite DJ. This goes for news anchors too. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.840 You can get your news read by an automated voice today. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.120 You don't even have to tune into this show. You 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.480 can literally have the top ten techt stories read to 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.240 you by a synthesized voice right now. What makes this 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.480 different Listening for what I bring to the show, Listening 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.280 to what your favorite DJ has to say, Listening for 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.680 that human connection, that human experience. One more example. The 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.360 house keep her at our hotel so kind. We built 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.959 a relationship with this woman, unlike any relationship we've had 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.280 with the housekeeper. By the end of the trip, not 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.800 only was she getting a bigger and bigger tip every 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.400 single day, she knew our kids' names, she was leaving, 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.280 she was decorating our room. She was leaving notes for 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.439 my children. Every time we saw her in the hallway, 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.200 she'd say hello to my kids by name my mom. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.760 She knew when we were leaving, what we were doing, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.880 She asked where we went. She gave us first DIBs 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.720 on pool toys that someone else left in their room, which, again, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.880 that is a human experience. That person will always have 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.960 a job the rest of them. I don't know, maybe 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.040 they're sending a roomba into the room starting, you know, 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:47.080 maybe are there cleaning robots. Remember Rosie was from the Jetsons. Oh, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.600 one more example, before we go to break the taxi. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.840 We got into a taxi. So my wife gives me 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.400 grief sometimes because I do things like the techie way 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.320 all the time, right, And so I'm like, you know what, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.640 I'm just gonna wave down a taxi outside the hotel 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.120 and have the taxi take us toward destination. We do that. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.599 The taxi driver, as soon as they hear my destination 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.040 starts complaining about how short of a distance it is, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.400 and he's not happy to take us in that short distance. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.160 And my kids are sitting there and they understand the tension, 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:16.720 and my mom and we're all just sitting there like, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.880 is this our fault that we're only going, you know, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.080 ten minutes away and not to the airport or whatever. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.680 And he's grumbling and grumbling and grumbling, and I'm sitting 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.240 there thinking, this is why WEIMO is gonna take over. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.520 This is why I'd rather be in an uber where 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.240 I call the car from my phone. I can pay 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.880 for my phone, and with an Uber or a way 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.600 moo you can set you know, do you want to talk? 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.360 Do you not want to talk again? If you bring 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.280 that human existence. I've had taxi drivers or uber drivers 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.480 that are so good you don't want the ride to 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.120 end because they're entertaining, they're fun. They bring something to 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.800 the experience, bring something to the experience, and you will 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.680 always have a job. Eight eight eight rich one oh 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.319 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.920 zero one. So much to get to today's show. So 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.280 glad you're with me. You are listening to rich on Tech. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.679 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.920 technology with you at triple eight rich one oh one. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.040 That's eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:38.640 Website for the show rich on Tech dot tv feedback 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.360 is open. So if you want to comment on my 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.320 new thesis about how we're all automating jobs out of 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.320 existence and how you can keep yours, let me know. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.080 Just go to the. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.200 Website and hit contact and I will hopefully get to 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.199 it on the show. Sounds like Chuck and Pasadena has 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.200 a comment on what I was just talking about. Chuck, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.000 welcome to the show. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.640 Thanks for having me Rich. Yeah, it was a fun experience. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.600 I went to that restaurant in Pasadena that where the 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.120 robot makes the hamburger and fries. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.120 Oh Flippy, this is Flippy the robot. That makes sense. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.720 I did a story on this a couple of years ago. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.760 But now they've got a restaurant that actually you can 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.640 go in and order. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.360 Yeah, it's on Green Streams called Cali Express by Flippy. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.920 It's right on the corner, and it's pretty cool. It's 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.880 a museum like experience where you walk in and yes, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.280 the food is awesome and interesting, but everybody goes there 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.880 to see the robot make the cheeseburgers and the fries, 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.920 and you know, while people are waiting there taking videos 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.320 and pictures, and it's kind of a real fun experience. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.160 In the bonuses, the food is fantastic. You wouldn't think 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.280 a cheeseburger or fries would be any better than you've 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.920 ever had, but they're cooked at perfection. And I actually 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.120 left the restaurant walk back and asked the guy the 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.720 lone employee work, and they're why it's so good, and 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.800 he chalks it up to AI and the fact that 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.720 they've really got to dialed into how long to cook 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:01.760 it and what temperature? 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:02.720 Wow? 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.840 And so do you think that this will become a 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.360 trend where robots will be doing more of the cooking. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.920 I know we see at Chipotle they are experimenting with 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.000 They have like a guacamole making robot, and I think 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.960 they have a chip robot as well. And then I 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.880 know Sweet Green is also experimenting. They have a location 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.480 in Orange County, California for the non California listeners that 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.440 makes these salads automated. So you know, Sweet Green is 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.520 a salad place with a bunch of different mix ins 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.240 and stuff, so you just choose what you want and 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.280 the robot makes it. Do you think we're going to 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.440 see this as a trend? Did you mind not having 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:39.800 the human connection? 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.920 No, That's why I winter was to see how well 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.160 it worked. And I felt like you discussed you know, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.120 when I'm going into order my breakfast or have somebody 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.520 glare at me because I'm not ordering enough or taking 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.040 too long, or I'm there too early or too late. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.000 I don't need that. So I've always wondered why they 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.040 can't have a And that's no offense the people, but 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.760 you know, people slapping together a big mac you know, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.720 I've always wondered why that process in the back can't 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.520 be automated, and now we know that it can. And 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.840 you know, I think down the road will look back 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.480 if somebody listens to the podcast many months or years 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.480 from little wonder why we were so amazed. So I 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.520 kind of wanted to see it while it's new and fresh, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.480 and I encourage anybody to go there and just at 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:23.240 least check it out. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.160 All right, Well, I remember when I went there, it 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.480 was pretty rough around the edges. They were just I mean, 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.800 it was first day, but it was pretty cool, and 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.080 it just goes to show that. And by the way, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.720 I think White Castle is also using Flippy in their 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.160 process as well. And right now it's much more I'm 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.240 seeing like a combination of humans and robots working together. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.720 But you can be guaranteed in the future it will 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.800 be much more robots. Especially these companies, you know, they 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.520 want to make money and they want to make more money, 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.000 and so they're going to do everything they can to 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.760 squeeze as much out of their profits as possible. So Chuck, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.880 thanks for the report from Pasadena. I appreciate it. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:15:59.840 Thank you. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.920 Thanks for listening to the show. Roku reports that the 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.160 hack we talked about a couple of weeks ago is 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.880 worse than they thought. So initially they said it was 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.960 about fifteen thousand compromised accounts. Now they're saying five hundred 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:18.360 and seventy six thousand user accounts were impacted, and so 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.840 they've sent emails to a bunch of Roku users. You 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.800 might have gotten one. The attack used the credential stuffing technique. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.840 This is where hackers find reused logins and passwords online 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.520 and they just try those at roku dot com and 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.680 in a lot of cases it worked. So Roku says 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.160 in less than four hundred cases they made out with 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:45.760 unauthorized purchases of streaming service subscriptions. We talked about that. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.960 And also they bought Roku hardware products using the stored 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.160 payment methods. I did not know that aspect, so they 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.880 bought like other Roku devices. So Roku has reset passwords 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.560 for the impacted accounts. They've notified effective affected customers with email, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.520 and they will be implementing two factor authentication for all accounts. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.919 They should have done that from the beginning. If you 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.919 don't have two factor enabled on your accounts, enable it. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.439 They said that the hackers did not get the credit 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.480 card numbers, so they did not get those or complete 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.359 payment details. But again this is still evolving. Or initially 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.040 they said fifteen thousand compromise, now they're saying five hundred 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.399 and seventy six thousand, and Roku has millions upon millions 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.240 of users. So my advice the next time you log 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.720 into Roku, make sure you use a strong, unique password 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.560 that you generate just for that website, and definitely consider 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.120 using a password manager. It can really help in instances 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.360 like this. Eight a eight rich one oh one eight 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.560 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.680 Coming up, we're going to talk Eclipse. I know what's happened. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.240 Dave Malkoff, CBS News reporter was there. He's going to 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.720 talk about his experience and I'll tell you the impact 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.199 the eclipse had on Internet traffic. It's all coming up 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:11.200 right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.119 on Tech. Rich de Biro here hanging out with you, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.320 talking technology at triple A rich one oh one. That's 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.080 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.760 Website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. There 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.520 you can sign up for my newsletter. New new episode 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.840 what do you call it? New issue went out today, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.760 so you can read that. It's all the stuff I 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.359 think you should know. Plus if you tap the light 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.399 bulb up at the top, if you're listening to the 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.280 radio show live, you can get in real time the 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.960 notes and links for the show. So Rich on tech 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.400 dot tv hit the light bulb, and if you want 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.119 to send me something, you can just hit contact. So 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.880 this past week was the total solar eclipse. I did 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.119 miss it, unfortunately. I know I talked it up. I 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.920 know I said I wanted to go. It just wasn't realistic. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.960 I was flying back from Hawaii the day before and 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.600 it was really a tight turn to get anywhere to 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.400 see this thing. But it did have an impact on 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:14.480 Internet traffic nationwide and really a lot of reports from 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.880 cloud flare. This was on April eighth, twenty twenty four. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.959 Traffic dropped in the US by eight percent and twelve 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.159 percent at the peak of the eclipse compared to the 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.920 previous week. States in the path of totality like Vermont, Arkansas, Indiana, Maine, 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.240 New Hampshire, and Ohio experienced traffic drops of forty percent 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.080 or more. What does this all tell us if there's 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.560 something cool happening outside. We are ready to ditch our 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.399 keyboards and go check it out. And I hope you 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.760 did that without ruining your eyes. Now, someone who was there, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:48.920 good friend of mine, CBS News National correspondent Dave Malkoff. Dave, 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:49.720 welcome to the show. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:51.840 Well thanks for having me Rich. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.000 This is the new sub segment called two TV News 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.040 Geeks Geek out of had TV News Gear. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:57.440 Right. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.520 I was gonna I was gonna call you a geek. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.120 I figured you'd be okay with that. You are geekier 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.040 than I am. In fact, you're the person that made 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.720 me I'll never forget. We were both working at k 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.520 CAL nine and you showed me like you did like 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.399 a what's in my bag? Before that was like a 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.720 thing on YouTube, and you're you're showing me all this 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:15.560 cool gear that you carry around. You're like, I can 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.320 go live from anywhere with all of this. And ever 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.720 since that day, my backpack has been triply heavy because 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.199 I carry so much stuff in my bag because of you, 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.600 Dave Malcoff, I have cursed you with the curse. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.359 Yes, yeah, it's it's it. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.040 And the funny thing is how that bag just changes 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.520 over the years as the technology gets better, but I 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.159 don't think anything gets lighter though. I think it's just 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.399 as heavy as it was before, because as we swap 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.399 out things, we swap in morse things that because of 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.800 the technology that is available today that wasn't available, you know, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.880 fifteen years ago or so exactly. 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.080 So true. Yeah, my bag has not gotten lighter, even 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.200 though the gadgets have gotten smaller. I just carry more 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.960 of them. So where were you for the total? 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.440 I was in downtown Cleveland, and we're right between the 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.160 Rock Hall of Fame. If you've ever been to downtown Cleveland, 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.320 I grew up there. And then we're right between the 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.960 Rock Hall of Fame and then there's the Science Center, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.520 the Great Like Science Center, which also has the John 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:23.040 Glenn NASA Visitor Center that's now inside the Science Center, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:24.760 and then there's a Brown. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:25.600 Stadium that's right there. 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.400 So I was right in front of the Glenn Visitor Center. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:30.680 With an astronaut. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:36.119 And so Steve Bowen has been to the International Space 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.720 Station four times. He built it and then he got 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.199 to live in it, so he went three times on 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:43.040 Shuttle missions. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:49.199 This guy's been to space four times. That is a 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.920 brave man that is a really My kids were asking me, like, Dad, 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:54.760 if you got the opportunity, would you go to space? 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.520 And I'm like, if it was on a rope maybe, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.720 like if it was guaranteed, Like I don't want to 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.080 go on that at that little car from uh, you 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.560 know whatever those things are in like Palm Springs, you 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.320 know that like little cable car thing. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.159 Like, oh yeah, yeah, you don't want to go on that. 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:11.280 I don't want to go on that. How am I 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.280 going to go to the Moon or Mars? Oh my gosh, Okay, 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.760 So what was this scene like? Was it just wild? 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.720 And described to me? The experience? 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.760 So the experience is really cool because I think I 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.200 think for a couple of reasons, we spend a lot 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.800 of time looking at our phones and kind of delving 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.680 into not only our own personal bubble, but maybe like 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.280 a political bubble that you're in and you don't really 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:42.080 interact with people outside of those bubbles. But something celestial 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.520 like this happening in our solar system that's maybe a 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.040 once in a lifetime chance, maybe twice in a lifetime 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.879 for anybody who lives long enough to see this. Uh, 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:58.359 We're all just part of one big thing, and I 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.679 think you rarely get that, maybe at a concert or something, 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:06.280 but when when you're looking up at the star in 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.960 the middle of our solar system and marveling at this 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.159 weird coincidence where we have a moon and a Sun 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.760 that appear to be the same size because of the 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.439 distance between them, the Sun being four hundred times larger 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.400 than the moon, but the moon being four hundred times 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.600 closer to us. So when they move over each other, 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.160 they cancel each other out except for the corona that's 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.520 around that. And I'm telling you Rich, it is breathtaking 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:39.119 to witness this and to see your sun at the 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:44.640 middle of your solar system turn off for almost four minutes, 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.480 and to see the corona and to see the the 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.760 projections coming off of it where we could actually if 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.640 you if you watch the full four minutes or three 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.000 minutes forty nine seconds I think it was, you can 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.760 see one of these from the side of the Sun 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:07.080 just becoming a big loop because of the Sun's magnetic 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.480 atmosphere that has in it called the corona. You can 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.040 see this happen right in front of your eyes, and 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.160 it's something you never get to see, and we all 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:21.479 experienced it together, maybe like thirty thousand people. They were 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.280 saying in Cleveland and then all over these areas that 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.520 weren't supposed to get totality, but they did. 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.000 Wow, that's amazing. Oh so some places were a little 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.760 surprised they still got it. Interesting, I mean, it's really 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.119 it's all math. I mean, that's that's another thing, like 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.600 the fact that we can figure these out and when 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.399 they're going to happen with such precision is also just 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.960 miraculous in itself. It's not like we've ever measured the 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.200 distance between here and the sun or the moon. I'm 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.240 sure they have in some weird way. 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.120 Ninety three million miles. 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.520 Dave, you know too much right off the top of 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:56.960 my head too. 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:57.920 I didn't even look that up. 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.000 This was your second one though, right. 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:05.439 Yeah, So it's and and ritual attests to this. 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.080 There are weird things that happened to you when you're 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.159 a TV news reporter that would never happen to you 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.600 in real life. It's almost like we lived like the 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.840 life of a superhero. And and and we're we're in 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.560 disguise when we're just home with our family. But the 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.560 first one, I was on a cruise ship with Bonnie 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:26.520 Tyler who sings. 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:27.480 Totally clips of the Heart. 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:28.240 Wow. 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.920 And she was singing it to me on the ship 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.639 during a live shot and we were singing it together 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.399 and uh. And then she went downstairs to a to 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.200 a stage that these huge cruise ships are huge, so 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.840 they've they've got a stage down there. And she happened 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.159 to be with Joe Jonas of the Joe bren Jonas 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.440 Brothers and and a d Nce and she was singing 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:49.960 total eclips of the Heart to the rest of the 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:54.960 ship right before totality happened. And and we all saw 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.640 it together right there because it went from last time, 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.359 it went from Oregon to South Carolina. If each draw 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.080 the line in your head and then pops off the 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.280 coast and then the meteorologist on board was able to 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.560 tell the captain where to steer the ship to get 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.359 not only into the path of totality but also outside 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:14.360 of the clouds. 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.800 Oh wow. Yeah, that's always an issue, the cloud cover. 0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.840 So when's the next one and are you planning already? 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.840 Well, there is one in twenty twenty six, but you 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:29.119 have to go to Iceland and there you could you 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.800 can maybe see it in Raykovic. But but I think 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.800 you only get like less than a minute of totality. 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.680 But if you go up to and I'm gonna mess 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.720 this up, Icelandic people are gonna are all. 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.119 The people listening are really going to send me the 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:43.440 angry emails. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.800 This Schnellfousness Peninsula, and I don't I don't know, you 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.880 definitely didn't say that right. But I've been up there 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.160 and there's this thing called Arnistappi. That's that's uh, that's 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.520 this really cool uh hotel. 0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.639 And kind of village up there. 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:03.240 But it's but it's far enough west on a peninsula 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.280 that it's different than in in Reykivik, where you would 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.000 only get a few, like a minute or so of totality. 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.040 I think you get two minutes in in Arni Stuffy. 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.160 I did look at the stopy cottages up there. 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:18.240 Sold out. 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:22.200 Now nobody can nobody can get a seat there. But 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.800 but but I think you could rent a van or something. 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:25.880 Maybe you could drive up there. 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.119 There's also one in twenty twenty seven in Egypt, and 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.600 it's going to be the longest duration six minutes twenty 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:37.359 three seconds August second, twenty twenty seven. So I'm just 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.440 giving you know, ideas for this Dave before we go, 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.679 I want to I know you're, like you said, a 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.879 geek self prescribed. Do you have any like apps that 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.560 you love or anything you want to recommend that folks 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:49.280 should check out. 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.200 Oh yeah, there's a there's a few of them that 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.040 I use all the time, and one of them is 0:27:55.960 --> 0:28:00.119 flight Radar twenty four. So I love looking at that 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.080 because I'm kind of an aviation geek and I like looking. 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.120 At where the planes are. 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.400 And if you look at this radar, if you look 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.600 at this flight Radar twenty four, if you see a 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:10.800 plane flying. 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:11.960 Above you, you can. 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.640 See in real time where that plane is going, what 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.040 the flight number is, where it came from, even if 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.240 it's private aircraft. 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.800 And you can also go into a view where you see. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.200 Out the window of the plane and a virtual view, 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.680 and just to imagine how many planes are flying over 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:29.800 the United States at once. 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.760 It's really cool. And then another one that I use 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.159 all the time is let me just see where is 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.200 that one? Oh yeah, a radar scope. 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.800 So this is live radar because I do a lot 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:45.160 of weather and climate coverage and so when I'm driving 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.520 around and I want to see what live radar is happening. 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.760 Ahead of me on the road. I always tuned to 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.880 a radar scope because it actually shows you the live 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.840 radar from the NWS National Weather Service domes that are 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.800 all over the country in different spots that they've got 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.320 Doppler radar sites everywhere. 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.160 Very very cool, Dave, real quick, How can folks find 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:07.800 you online? 0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.000 Well, I am on I am on the thing that 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.400 was formerly known as Twitter, and you can find me 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.240 at Malcoff there and then but I am I guess 0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.360 I'm moving more to Instagram. So that's so that's uh, 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.400 Malcoff News on Instagram, Malcoff News on TikTok, and you 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:27.960 can find me on Facebook. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.080 Just just look up a Dave Malcoff. I think it's 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.360 Dave News on Facebook. 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:36.400 All right, Dave Malcoff, National reporter, national correspondent for CBS News, 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.840 Thanks so much for joining me. Coming up on the 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.960 show eighty eight rich one one eight eight eight seven 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.800 four two four one zero one. I'm gonna tell you 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.640 about the music. Listen to the music that comes back 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.719 very closely. I'll explain what's going on today. You are 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.520 listening to Rich on tech. 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.480 Shut the. 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:21.160 Collation, Tech Talk, Taslation. When youtune in June show. You 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.000 know we do it right. 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:32.480 The Tech Stream Olive Board. Welcome back to Rich on 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.880 tech Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.440 at Triple eight the Rich one O one. That's eight 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:42.080 eight eight seven four two four one zero one. So 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.760 if you're wondering what's going on with the music this week, 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:50.800 it's actually AI generated a new website called udio. Udio 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.920 dot com was developed by former Google DeepMind researchers. It 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.720 uses AI to create songs in less than a minute. 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.200 You can type in the type of song you want, 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.640 you can say if you want lyrics, you can even 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.280 paste in your own lyrics and it will generate the song. 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.920 So I generated a bunch of songs that were tech related, 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.640 some with lyrics, some without. You can say you want 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.320 it to be country or pop or whatever genre you want, 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.760 and it's pretty wild. I mean, look, this is like 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.760 second day, third day of this maybe for the public, 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:26.480 and it's already pretty darn good. They've got big investors, 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:31.760 will I am Common the guy who co created Instagram 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.680 also a big investor. And it's free, so yes, it 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.719 will be paid at some point. But right now you 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.000 can log into this and if you are dabbling in 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.840 music or you're curious about the AI music generation. This 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.920 is probably one of the better websites that I've seen 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.640 that does it. So I'll be playing the intro music 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:54.960 throughout the show with courtesy of AI. And it's pretty wild. 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.280 I mean, it's a cool thing because it's all unique, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.920 like that whatever you're hearing has ever been heard in 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.640 the world before. Now, maybe the sound or the way 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.920 it feels you you know, you might recognize, but the 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.920 actual like it's put together on the fly, pretty pretty wild. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.360 If you want to link to it, Rich on tech 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.400 dot TV hit the light bulb up at the top 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.160 you can get a link to udo udio. Check it out, 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:25.440 see what you think. Let's go to uh Michelle in Encinitas, California. Michelle, 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:26.120 you're on with Rich. 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:27.840 Good morning. 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:28.320 How are you? 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.280 Good morning? I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for the call. What 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:32.239 what can I help you with? 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:38.120 Okay, So, I'm I want to know what How does 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:44.320 someone become administrator of your email address one that you 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.920 created yourself on your own desktop? I was actually doing 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.040 I'm pretty sure. Well my husband did this, my soon 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.600 to be ex husband, and he made it. He said 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.600 it was just a total accident. It was just a fluke, 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.320 and I thought you can't just becomes just stumbled upon 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.160 something like that, especially when I created it through Outlooks 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.280 and these Gmail And then not only did I create it, 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.320 I had my email and my email as a backup, 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.800 and my phone number as a backup, another email and 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.160 my phone number, and then he has this email and 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.800 his phone number as now the backup and he's still 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.520 administrator of that one, although I don't use it anymore. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.840 But it's been a battle for six months getting to 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:32.479 the bottom of how someone can become administrator of someone 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:33.240 else's email. 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.760 Well, it sounds to me that he had the password, 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.680 because that's really the only way you can't take over 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.360 an email. Well, there's a couple of ways you could 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.120 take over if you're you know, if you knew what 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.200 you're doing, But it sound the easiest way is that 0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.040 he either gets the password or he knew the password 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.360 and he added himself on the back end and replaced 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.080 those two key pieces of information the backup email, the 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.240 recovery email, and also the phone number for the account. 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.560 So that would mean that it sounds like two factor 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.840 authentication probably wasn't turned on originally with this account, and 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.480 that's why he was able to evade any sort of 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:14.279 like detection. Now that's just a theory. I think for 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:19.120 most people, if you are generating a unique password and 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.399 log in for your account, nobody's going to be able 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.080 to take that over, especially if you have two factor authentication. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.879 Ninety nine percent of the hacks that we see are 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.880 reused password. So they're using a password that they've gotten 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.840 from a data dump somewhere online and they pop it 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.960 into Gmail and lo and behold it works. Or they 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.799 trick you into handing over that information, so they will 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.120 present you with a fake login screen and you will 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.120 log in thinking that it's you're logging into Gmail, but 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:52.279 really you are logging into just a fake website that 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:56.600 is now capturing your information and then letting the perpetrator 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.560 see that on the back end, and then they go 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.600 in and log in. Now it gets even more elaborate 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.120 if you do have two factor authentication turned on. Sometimes 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.200 they will present you with that fake website, you will 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.719 log in, that code will come to your phone and 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.080 they will literally call you and say, hey, we notice 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.279 you're having trouble logging into your Gmail. We just sent 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.120 you a code, please read us that code, and they 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.960 will type in that code on their end and then 0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.120 log into your account, even bypassing that two factor authentication 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.480 that you have set up to protect yourself. So that 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.400 is why on almost every single two factor authentication text 0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.359 or email you get, it says do not share this 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.719 with anyone. We will never verbally ask you for this, 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.680 and that is true. So if anyone ever asks you, hey, 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.759 can you give me that two factor code that we 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.760 just texted you, unless you trust them one hundred percent. 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.760 Like sometimes banks will do that as a secondary form 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.320 of authorization. When you call them, they will say, Okay, 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.480 we're going to text you a number. Read us that number. 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.080 But generally, if it's an automated system, nobody's calling you 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.960 for that phone number. But these people are tricky. They 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.160 study this stuff. They study to see what we do 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:08.839 and how we do it, and they look for the 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.239 holes and they try to figure out how to get 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:17.920 around it. Soress. My advice, Michelle is to regain that 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.799 account as yours somehow. Either tell him, hey, look, I 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:23.840 need this account and then go in and either delete 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.160 that account. You said you don't use it, but I 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.880 get rid of it. So that it's not an issue anymore. 0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.719 Thanks for the call today. Eight eight eight rich one 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.760 oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.759 one zero one. Let me tell you this before we 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.520 go to break here. LGTV owners, if you have an LGTV, 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.319 you need to update your firmware. There is a four 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:48.640 severe vulnerabilities affecting the software of four lg smart TV models. 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:50.640 I'm not going to go through all the model numbers 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.759 and things like that, but the point is if you 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:56.600 have an LGTV, just go ahead, connect it to the 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.680 Wi Fi if you haven't done that, and just update 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.799 the and just make sure that it's up to date. 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.040 And then if you're not using the smart features on it, 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:11.160 you can disconnect it again. But the vulnerabilities, you know, 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.960 it could be bad, so definitely go into your menu. 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.839 If you have an LGTV, just update the firmware. That 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.680 way you are protected. They have released a firmware update 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.319 to address these security issues on these TVs. You are 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:50.640 listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:55.080 Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.000 phone number eight and eight rich one oh one eight 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.759 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. Yes, 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.600 the music is cutting off early today. It is all 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:08.640 AI generated, so it's it's a little different. It's from 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:13.040 a website called ud O u d Io and it's 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.880 free and it's kind of interesting. 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I think you're gonna like it. Definitely sign 0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.520 up for the new letter. That is the best way 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.120 to uh to keep in touch with everything that I 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.279 do throughout the week. Rich on tech dot TV. Let's 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.479 go to Jerry in Pennsylvania. Jerry, you're on with Rich. 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.359 Hello, rich. First of all, I allowed to compliment your 0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:20.560 call streeter. Oh she has a memory. Second to Marry 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:21.280 Lou Henner. 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.640 Oh wow, I didn't know Marril Lou Henter had such 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:24.360 a great memory. 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:26.920 Elaine from Taksy correct. 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.680 Okay, well that was a little bit before my time, 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.680 but I trust you on that one. Yeah, okay, okay, 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:34.200 Chim is fantastic. 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.080 Yeah. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:36.000 Uh. 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.120 I have two computers. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:37.560 I have a. 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:42.239 Desktop on laptop and I was able to get no 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:46.160 problems until my laptop crashed and I had to reset 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:51.040 my The whole thing problem is now on the desktop, 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.319 I can get into my Discover card no problem by 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:58.319 using the same credentials. Well, my laptop, it doesn't work 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:03.479 it Keith says, I got correct the findings. Where should 0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:04.920 I look for the problem? 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.239 Interesting? So is this an auto fill situation? Is it 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.880 auto filling the the information for the password? 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:14.400 It did? 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:14.640 Ye? 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:19.799 Use its I actually copied a thumb drive up, I 0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.000 copied the info from my desktop or does the thumb 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.839 drive came down and put it into my laptop and 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.160 pasted it in there and it still kicks me out? 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.600 Okay, So I think there's a there's got to be 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.480 a character in there that is not like a rogue character. 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.960 So sometimes when you copy and paste across things, it 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.120 could pick up a character or two. You know, depending 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.080 on how you exported, there could be a space in there. 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.239 Just there's a lot of things that that may be 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.319 wrong there. So my advice a couple of things to 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.160 do here to try to figure this out. Number one, 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.759 you should try using a private browser window first off, 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.359 to try to log in. So there there's a couple 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.480 of things that interfere with logins. A lot of times. 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.160 It's an ad blocker that will mess with a like 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.640 if you're ever having trouble with any website, these are 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.520 the things that could be going wrong. Number one, an 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:12.040 ad blocker that could be keeping some key information off 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.800 of that website. So disable the ad blocker, refresh the website, 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.799 and try again. So that's the first step. Number two, 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:23.680 Basically it's all your extensions. Any extension could potentially interrupt 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.280 a web page depending on that interaction with that extension. 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:30.840 So that's why I always try a private browsing window first. 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.120 So use the private browsing window. So go to file 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.439 new If it's Chrome incognito window, use that to log 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.759 into the website first and if that still doesn't work, 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.239 and then obviously type in the password. So figure out 0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.280 what this password is for this site, write it down 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.520 somewhere or whatever, and then type it in manually. Sometimes 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.600 you might have the capslock keyon. There could be a 0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.280 lot of things that might go wrong in that password process, 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.759 so make sure you're typing it in and then see 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.800 if that works. If that doesn't work, sometimes it's the cookies. 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.759 So if you have third party cookies blocked on a website, 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.880 which I do, that means that sites can't track you 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.400 from site to site. That could interfere with your login. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.080 But it's mostly And the other thing is is really 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.280 a VPN. So if you're using a VPN, sometimes sites 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.160 don't like that, especially secure websites like a Discover site. 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.760 They do not like VPNs because someone could be running 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:32.360 a VPN that might be nefarious and doing something wrong 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.279 and they want to evade detection, so they might use 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.600 a VPN. Now I'm not saying every website, but these 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.120 are the things that I've encountered over the years that 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:42.919 would impact my login. But ninety nine percent of the time, 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.560 if it's a copy and paste situation, I'm adding some 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.360 sort of extra letter or a space to that log in. 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.640 Or sometimes when I when I actually exported all my 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.680 passwords from an old password manager, there was a bunch 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.480 of random characters that did not make it properly, and 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.759 so I forget what the characters were. But I know 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.160 if you know like Unicode or all this stuff, like 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.040 the technical stuff, you would know these characters. But every 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.880 time there was like a specific character, whether it was 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.080 an I don't know, if it's like a semi colon 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.200 or something, it would change it to something else. So 0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.600 just make sure that you're entering the right password and 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.919 that should take care of it, especially in that incognito mode. 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:22.680 And if it works there, you know it's working on 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.520 that laptop. Now you just have to get it to 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.560 work on your main browser. But good question, Jerry. Thanks 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.719 for the call today from Pennsylvania, and have a great day. 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:37.120 Let's go to Virginia in Utica, New York, Virginia. You're 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:38.440 on with Rich Hi. 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:39.520 Rich Hi. 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:44.839 Question is about AOL In the beginning of time, I 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:49.800 opened up five email accounts, three for myself and two. 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:50.240 For my daughter. 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:55.239 Okay, was that like a present for her? Was that 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.359 like a birth present? When she was born. You open 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:57.880 them up or what? 0:43:59.080 --> 0:43:59.279 No? 0:43:59.400 --> 0:43:59.960 When I ope? 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.080 The AOL account is that I could have five sot 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:10.440 it one account, got it? Okay, your thoughts on AOL 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.560 versus I also have a Google account. 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:15.839 I'd switch to the Google at this point. I mean, 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.839 I get a lot of emails from people that still 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.239 use Aol. Maybe not as much anymore, but you know, 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.719 there are Look, there's nothing wrong with it. I just 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.319 think there's a better email experience out there, and I 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:31.880 think Google has the best. So it's searchable, it's simple, 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.799 it's not cluttered. You know, I watch people that are 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.320 logging into their AOL email. I'm not going to name names, 0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.680 but I know some some people pretty close to me 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.920 that still use that, and it's it's a messy experience. 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:47.480 It's not very good. It's just it's not clean. It's 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.560 not nice. And honestly, I don't want to be like 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.200 the person that says having an AOL email address kind 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.360 of reveals a lot about you. But you know what 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.839 I'm talking about, right, Virginia. When you when you tell 0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.160 people when you're at the doctor's office and you're like, 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:01.759 what's your email? And they're like, You're like, at a 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:03.759 well dot com. You know, you get that little look, 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.160 you know, like, are you. 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:07.879 Allowed to two different. 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:08.400 Ones at Google? 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.960 So you can't, you know, one for shopping and one 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:13.440 for important stuff. 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.920 Okay, So what I would do in that case is 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.960 Google has this neat thing that you can add a 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:23.480 plus sign to any email address. So, for instance, if 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:28.600 your email address is uh, you know Virginia, you know, 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.279 Virginia A at gmail dot com, you can type that 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.600 into a website. And let's say you go shopping on Wayfair. 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.879 You can type Virginia A plus Wayfair at gmail dot 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.520 com and that will still come through to your Gmail 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.480 as a regular email address. And you can do that 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.200 unlimited amount of times. So let's say you sign up 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.799 for the rich on Tech newsletter, right, you can you 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.520 can type in and you say, I don't trust this 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.799 rich guy with my email address, right, so I'm gonna 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.680 give him a an email that's a little bit more disposable. 0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:00.240 So you can type in Virginia plus rich on Tech 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.040 at gmail dot com and that will come to your 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:07.200 standard Virginia at gmail dot com email address. You see 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:08.759 what I mean. So anything after you can add a 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.360 plus sign to your email address along with any letters 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.759 you want, and that will be a separate email and 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.120 it will all come to your regular inbox. Now here's 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.080 the magic of that. You can now, of course they 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:20.840 don't have your real email address, so if you're on 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.120 a list, you can just go ahead and filter that 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.319 email address to trash if they keep emailing you with 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.520 you know, you can't figure out a way to unsubscribe, 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.080 or you can use it to filter that into different things, 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.520 so you can you know that all your shopping emails 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.360 are Virginia plus shopping at gmail dot com, and you 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.520 give that to Macy's and you know, home Depot and 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.960 whatever you sign up for, and so it can help 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.359 you organize. So it's a neat little thing that's sort 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.319 of built in. There's also a bunch of websites that 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.160 can that can help you generate an email that you 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.520 just need temporarily. So if you're using Gmail and you 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.319 just need an email address to like sign up for 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.000 something shared this last week on the show. But it's 0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:01.000 called ten minutemail dot com and that makes up a 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.319 temporary email address that you can use to let's say, 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:05.640 you know, has this ever happened to you? Where you 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.560 want to get like a twenty percent off coupon, but 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.600 you don't really want to sign up for the mailing list, 0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:13.160 so you go to this website ten minute mail dot com. 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.560 You give them that email address that they generate on 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.399 the fly, and you can check that email for ten 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.799 minutes on that website and you can get that that 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.080 coupon code or whatever you need, and then you don't 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.840 even have to do anything. It just deletes after ten minutes. 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:30.080 Okay, all right, so those are some of the close 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.400 my account. 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.319 Oh, closing AOL. Okay, So there's a website that I like. 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.799 It's called just delete me dot x y z, And 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.120 if you go there and you type in AOL, it's 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.880 actually quite easy. A account gets deactivated for a waiting 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.360 period of thirty to one hundred and eighty days depending 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.080 on your country, and then it's permanently deleted, and it 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:55.239 gives you the link to delete that email address. So 0:47:56.160 --> 0:48:00.239 the link is, let's see here, it's uh yeah, it 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.000 goes to like a special dashboard, my dashboard dot oath 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.960 dot com. So you can use that link, but you 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.560 can go to this website just delete me dot x 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:10.759 y z, and that will give you the direct link 0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.120 to delete your AOL, and not just for AOL, but 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.839 for any website. So, and I don't think there's really 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.759 an issue with keeping the AOL if you want to 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:20.560 just keep it alive for a while, like, there's no 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.000 real reason to to delete it immediately. 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.719 Does it delete my daughter's accounts too, if. 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.680 They're all linked up under the same account. Yes, it 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.440 would impact her account as well, So all right, I 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.759 have to find out. Okay, so maybe you just switch 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.879 to Gmail and then she can stick to to what 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:36.560 she's got with AOL eventually. 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.120 Yeah, okay, all right, your thoughts on a beast. I 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:46.600 keep paying for all these and MS? Is it necessary 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:47.439 to have all those? 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.400 Uh you're paying for a vast? 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:50.239 Yeah? 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.520 Yeah, you know, a Vast is actually highly rated. I 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.279 have no problem if you're If you're using that and 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.040 you're comfortable with it and it feels like it's a 0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:00.200 good price. They do offer a free level of SERVI 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:02.799 if you're If you're happy with it and you feel 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.640 like it's protecting a rachine, I think it's okay. I 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.400 think it's one of the better ones. If you mentioned 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.799 another brand that I don't like, I probably would say 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.719 switch or downgrade, But I think if it's if you're 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.879 keeping it up to date and you feel protected, I'd 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:16.600 say just stick with it, just. 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.480 Go ahead and pay for it. Okay, alrighty, thank you, 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:20.680 rich I appreciate it, all. 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.759 Right, Virginia, thanks for the call today from Utica, New York. 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.960 Coming up, I'm gonna tell you what Meta is doing 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:32.800 when it comes to messages to teenagers and nude images. 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:35.920 Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.960 four two four one zero one. You are listening to 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:40.560 rich on tech. 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:52.640 Ud I found my bone buzzing off the table. 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:53.440 On my worn out. 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:59.120 Oh no, it's said no service now on this and 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.240 calls b locking old. 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:03.320 Is this? 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:03.640 Say? 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:09.600 Yes, I generated country tech song. Yes it is because 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:13.120 I generated it. I said, write me a song about 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:17.359 tech issues in a country way. 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.200 It's all again. 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.080 Eight eight eight rich one on one eight eight eight 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:26.080 seven four to two four one zero one. The website 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:32.120 for the show rich on tech dot tv. Uh, sign 0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:35.160 up for the newsletter. Check out the websites brand new 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.840 and if you want links to the show. So, for instance, 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.600 we just had a great question about deleting old accounts 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:42.560 and things. I mentioned a bunch of resources in that 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.400 Gmail hack when you go to the website, just click 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.439 the light bulb up at the top for the real 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:53.520 time links to anything that you hear about. Let's see 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:58.120 Meta this week introducing new tools to combat sex tortion 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.440 and also new images on its platform. Now, this is 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:06.759 primarily meant to protect teen users. So there's a new 0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:11.080 feature in Instagram DMS that if you're sending or receiving 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:15.840 nude images, it will blur them out by default, and 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.560 if you're trying to send or receive these, it will 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.239 ask you to think twice. So if you try to 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.360 send a nude image, it will say hold on, you 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:26.640 know that this is out there forever in the world, 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.600 And if you're receiving one, it will say, hold on, 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:33.480 do you want to see this for real? Because it's 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.359 you know, it's got some explicit stuff going on in it. 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.680 So nudity protection will be turned on by default for 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:44.800 teens under eighteen. Adults will also be encouraged to enable 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:48.440 the feature. And if you're wondering about privacy, it actually 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.600 all happens on device. So they've downloaded some sort of 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:55.840 AI algorithm to the Instagram app that can detect nudity 0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:59.560 and it scans your photos as they're going out or 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.759 going in or as received, and it will figure out 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.160 if there's nudity in those pictures. So this is a 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.840 great first step. I think that this is smart. I 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.800 think that obviously, these tech companies are in a very 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:18.600 precarious position here because they don't want to be regulated, 0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.919 and they know that that regulation is coming, so they're 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.080 trying to do as much as possible, or I should 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.000 say as little as possible. That they seem like they're 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.239 doing a good job to protect people, but in reality, 0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.120 you know, do they really care, Probably to a certain extent, 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.440 But what they want is for people to be on 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.680 these platforms as much as humanly possible. We've mentioned that before. 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:43.800 But I do think this is a good step because, 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.800 you know, teens. It's interesting because this whole sending nudes 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:49.960 thing is a way of the world at this point 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:53.200 for teens and adults. There are a lot of people 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:56.080 that think that this is the way that you get 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.719 someone interested in you. This is what you do when 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:01.560 you start dating. And if you're an adult, you know, look, 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.480 that's your prerogative. But if you're a teen, you're still 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.800 learning the ways of the world. And this sextortion section 0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:10.080 of it is an interesting twist because a lot of 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.960 times teens will be pressured into sending a nude image 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:18.200 to someone and then they will, you know, basically that 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.480 person says, hey, you got to now pay me or 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:22.840 else I'm going to show this to people, and that 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.839 could lead to a lot of terrible, terrible things, and 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.120 it does every day. I mean, just search sextortion in 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:33.239 Google News and you'll hear stories about this all the time. 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:38.000 Of course, we're also hearing stories about the AI generated 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.640 nude images that teens are now making of their classmates 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:43.960 and sharing them around schools, and that's a whole other 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.920 thing that is beginning to happen and will just continue 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.879 to happen. So I think this is smart. I think 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.160 the smartest part about this is that it is enabled 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.600 by defall, and if you're receiving that nude image, it 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:57.799 is blurred out so that you have the option of 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:00.279 deleting it or blocking it, or never looking at it 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:04.279 in the first place. So good job there, Meta for 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:08.440 doing that. But of course, you know, let's go to 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:13.200 John in rose Meee. John, you're on with rich Hey 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:15.359 rich Hey question? Sure? 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.920 Ye trying to you know, as we get tons of 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.920 business cards all the time trying to scan them into 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:27.200 the Apple Phone contact app. What what would be your 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:28.719 recommendation for the best app? 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:32.399 None of them. They're all horrible. I have never come 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:34.799 across a business card scanning app that I like. I've 0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:37.640 tried them all. I don't even bother anymore, to be honest, 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.000 they're just all horrible. Have you tried some? 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.759 I've tried some before, that little that little gadget where 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.440 you just push it in and scans it, but it's 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:49.920 just it's yeah, it just doesn't read it well. 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.200 It never gets it right. So with that said, I'll 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.200 tell you some of the top apps out there, but 0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.880 you can try them out. But cove co o v 0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:01.160 ve is one of them. Card a hq is another 0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:08.359 card hqbiz dot com. Let's see there's another. See ever 0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:12.680 Note also does it. But honestly, every single time in 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:14.840 the past that I've ever tried one of these things, 0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:16.719 it always gets it wrong and I end up just 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:20.839 typing in the information myself. I think you're almost better off. 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:24.280 You know what John is scanning like taking a picture 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:27.040 of the card, and then you know how the iOS 0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:29.880 now has like the text ocr like kind of feature 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.040 I don't know if you've seen that, but you can. 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.120 When you take a picture on the iPhone or Android, 0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.160 it puts up a little I in the corner that 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.000 will put all the text where you can highlight it 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:39.920 and copy and paste. I feel like that's almost a 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:41.880 better way of putting it into your contacts. It's a 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.880 little more manual, but I find that that cops better anyway. 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:47.799 If you have a thanks for the call. By the way, 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.520 if you have a recommendation for a great business card 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:52.480 scanning app, give me a call. Eighty to eight rich 0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:55.760 one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two 0:55:55.800 --> 0:56:21.480 four one zero one. Welcome back to richehon Tech Ridge. 0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:25.920 You're hanging out with Utah to all Bridge one. 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:30.520 That's eighty game seven two World one. 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.840 Then this week done that Big del Tech Week. 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.200 Seven weeks Major. You probably know them for things like 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:40.960 they're cables and charging accessories. They're based in El Segundo, California, 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.320 and this week they held an event called Spring Fling. 0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:46.360 This was a fun career event for high school students. 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.640 I love this kind of stuff. They had about one 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.040 hundred kids on hand to learn about jobs in the 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.600 tech industry. Take a behind the scenes tour and even 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:57.160 meet people from cool companies like Google. First Up, I 0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:01.520 talked to Belkan CEO Steven Maloney. What is Belcan all about. 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:06.520 We're an accessories company. We enhance people's lives through technology. 0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.000 We make products that you use every day that you 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.800 may not even think about. Chargers and cables and screen 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.600 protectors for your phones, docs and other things that are 0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:18.080 tech related. 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.320 In a world of sort of Amazon, you know, search 0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:24.440 for something, something's cheaper, how do you compete with all 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:24.680 of that? 0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.720 Boy, you're in you're asking the right question to me, 0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.720 because we've spent our entire existence trying to be a 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.080 differentiated company. Right so we've we're standing in our Elsigondo 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:40.120 facility right now here in El Segundo. We've invested in 0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:44.520 design capabilities, engineering capabilities, and competencies. We think that makes 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.040 us a differentiated company. We do everything under one. 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:48.480 Roof in house ourselves. 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.640 So you can find lots of cheap imitations out there, 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.520 but Belcan stands for quality and that's what you get 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:55.600 when you buy a Bulkan product. 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.080 Why open up your facility today to these students. 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:04.120 Pilcan has invested a lot over the years in things. 0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:06.479 There's a few things we really care about. 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:09.120 We really care about technology, so we've got an R 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.720 and D facility here with lab space and engineers that 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:14.840 are working every day to bring great products to market. 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.120 We also care about the environment, so sustainability is really 0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:22.120 important for us, and our products are reflecting that in 0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:24.600 the products that we're shipping right now. We also care 0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.640 about the communities that we're in on site. In this location, 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:32.200 we have a campus for portal learning that we've invested 0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.320 in where students have a chance to get competency based learning. 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.920 What we wanted to do today is open it up 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:41.720 so these students who we have access to facilities like 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:43.280 ours to be able to learn about what they can 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.440 do in their careers going forward and figure out what 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:47.160 they wanted to do with their lives and how they 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:48.960 position themselves for the future. 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:50.640 What is the outlook in the. 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:52.520 Tech world right now for students. 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.360 Yeah, I think it's really exciting and it's an exciting 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:57.880 time to be interested in technology. 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.560 It's changing and growing every day. 0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.960 There's always going to be the need for new thinking 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:07.840 and new ideas, and I think that people that are 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.440 interested in technology there's gonna be endless opportunities for them 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:13.600 to find something that they love, and of course I 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:15.919 think that's the most the most important thing. You find 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.000 something that you love, you lean into it. Technology is 0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:21.360 going to be there and it's going to continue to evolve, 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.080 and I think there's a lot. 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.160 That youth can bring to that in the future. 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:27.760 Do they get into coding, do they get into design, 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:29.720 do they get into Where do they start? 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.920 Boy, that's a really great question, because I think there 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.360 are so many opportunities in technology. I think you named 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.720 a bunch there For me. I think it starts with 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.720 finding what you love. If you love to tinker with things, 0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:44.440 maybe electrical or mechanical engineering is something of interest for you. 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.640 Finding what you love and then leaning into that, I 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.440 think is where you should go because there's endless opportunity 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:52.040 in this space. 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.680 Does AI play a role in your business at this point. 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:57.000 Yes, of course it does. 0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:00.360 I think it's it's interesting to see how A is 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:04.280 growing and evolving. We have a lot of machine learning 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:08.160 that we do with some of our products, including finn 1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:11.880 which is a water based management technology that we make, 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:15.040 So we have that billions of data points that we've 1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:15.680 collected there. 1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:17.680 We're doing more and more every day. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:22.520 We've launched products recently that have auto tracking technologies incorporated 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:24.400 into them that are leaning that direction. 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.440 I think we're all very, very curious to know how 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:28.480 AI is going to evolve. 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:30.360 I don't think anybody really knows what it's going to 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:33.800 mean for the future in technology, but there's no doubt it's. 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:35.040 Here and it's going to continue to grow. 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:38.040 We're really pleased to be a part of this sort 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:42.360 of experience where we have a chance to enable opportunities 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:44.840 for students to be able to think about their futures. 1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:46.800 We're not going to stop doing that. 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.160 As Belkan, We're proud to be part of the community 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:50.280 here in Southern California. 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:52.680 So yeah, we're really pleased to be able to host 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:53.240 an event like this. 1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:56.000 Did you ever have a moment in your past when 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:59.560 you attended something or inspired by something and it helped 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:00.000 your future? 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:00.200 Sure? 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:01.200 Yeah, I was. 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:05.400 Really fortunate when I graduated from ucr I and I 1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:07.600 went to school here in southern California. I wasn't too 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:09.600 sure what I was going to do, and we had 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:13.520 simple career fairs at our university, and I attended a couple. 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.200 I think it helped me understand what I wanted to 1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:18.880 do and what I probably didn't want to do, so 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:20.800 I leaned into that and I was able to get 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:25.000 my start in finance at first. But then understanding in 1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:29.520 southern California, there's a lot of technology innovation startups all around, 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:31.480 and I leaned in one into one of those, and 1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:33.400 it kind of, you know, was the path of the 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:34.840 beginning of the path to where I am today. 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:36.760 I'm going to put you on the spot here, so 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:39.760 get ready. Do you have a favorite product that Belcan 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:42.240 makes that you use and love? 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.880 Sure, the list is long. The products that I love 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:48.840 right now. The auto tracking stand Pro is the one 1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:55.120 that we just launched. I love it because it integrates software, hardware, 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:59.640 and firmware all in an experience that's really innovative and 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:01.160 I think totally differentiated. 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:03.840 We're excited to see where that product's going to go next. 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:07.840 I spoke with Elisa Summer O'Hara. She has an interesting background. 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:10.720 She studied theater for undergrad then she worked for a 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:12.880 little bit, then she made a switch. She went back 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:13.520 to grad. 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:15.240 School and went into the tech field. 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:17.880 State of the tech world right now for people that 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.160 are wanting a job in technology, is this still a 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:20.640 good place? 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:21.800 Absolutely? 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:24.160 I mean tech is always changing, so I think that 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.240 now is as exciting a time as any other time, 1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:30.840 especially with AI. Inevitably, we need more people with different 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:33.240 skills and understanding and tech, and I think that will 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:34.640 only continue. 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:37.440 And what does Google get out of being at an 1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:38.000 event like. 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:41.720 This, Well, for me, because I work on our education team, 1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:43.960 it's so great to spend some time with students and 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:47.160 hear from them about what they're thinking about how they're 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:50.200 using our technology in schools. I probably learned more from 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:53.480 them today than they learned from me, although I hope 1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:57.080 I gave them some advice as to careers in tech 1:02:57.400 --> 1:03:01.880 or ways they can think of about following their curiosity. 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:04.400 So tell me about that first part, careers in tech? 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:05.720 What do you tell them? 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:09.800 I would say that the types of careers in tech 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:12.800 are really varied. I am not a technical person in 1:03:12.840 --> 1:03:14.880 my role, but I work very closely with our product 1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:17.440 and engineering team. I think we need all sorts of 1:03:17.480 --> 1:03:21.360 people who are passionate about technology and the impact that 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.160 it can have, and we need a lot of different 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:25.440 skill sets and you can come to a role like 1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:28.959 this from many different angles. One thing that I really 1:03:29.000 --> 1:03:31.400 appreciate about my career is that I've been able to 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:35.520 follow my curiosity learn new things, and especially in technology, 1:03:35.720 --> 1:03:37.840 the skills you have today are not the ones that 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:40.160 you're going to need in five years, So following that 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:43.560 curiosity is really important. I actually had a conversation with 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:46.760 one of the students who came up. He asked me, 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:49.800 he wants to study computer science, and he has offers 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:53.320 from Cornell, cal Poly and USC, And he asked me 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:56.880 where he should go to school, and whether computer science 1:03:57.000 --> 1:04:00.600 was even a good idea now considering what's happened with Ai. 1:04:01.240 --> 1:04:03.240 And first of all, I certainly don't know where he 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:06.200 should go to school. But when you're thinking about whether 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:08.800 computer science is a good thing to learn, I think 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:11.200 the thing you learn in school is more how to 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:14.960 think right. And there are fundamental skills in addition to 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:19.320 that from a quantitative perspective potentially or from a communications perspective. 1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.720 But what computer science is today is not going to 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:26.680 be what you're doing tomorrow. But having those fundamental skills 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:29.840 and really having rigor in your thinking is really what's important. 1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.919 What's the biggest question you get from people about working 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:34.400 at Google. 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.600 I would say the biggest question I get is how 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:40.360 do I get a job at Google. I feel really 1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:43.440 privileged to have this job and be able to lead 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:45.480 the team that I lead. I think there are a 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:48.560 lot of people who think Google is an amazing company. 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:51.360 We have so many products that people love, and it 1:04:51.440 --> 1:04:53.440 is an excellent place to work. So that is the 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:57.800 biggest question I get, and I think biggest. My answer 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:00.640 to that question is almost always, well what are you 1:05:00.680 --> 1:05:03.360 interested in? Because we have so many different people with 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.520 so many different skill sets, and I think being able 1:05:06.560 --> 1:05:08.840 to understand what skills you have and how you can 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.760 apply them are really what will get you to where 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:13.160 you want to go, whether it is at Google or 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:13.920 another company. 1:05:14.240 --> 1:05:16.919 There you have it, follow your curiosity and see where 1:05:16.920 --> 1:05:19.400 it leads to. I love meeting people at these types 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:21.680 of events, especially the students and also the people that 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:24.600 work at these tech companies. They all have such varied 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:28.160 interests in backgrounds. It really is fascinating to see how 1:05:28.200 --> 1:05:30.920 it all comes together. Okay, more rich on Tech coming 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:31.880 your way right after this. 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:32.360 If you have a. 1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:34.840 Question for me, give me a call. It's triple eight 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:37.800 rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:41.240 to two four one zero one. You are listening to 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:47.479 rich on Tech. 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:05.960 Welcome back to Rich on tech Rich tamiro here hang 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:09.760 out with you talking technology at triple eight Rich one 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:10.360 oh one. 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.080 That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one 1:06:14.280 --> 1:06:17.920 zero one. The website for the show rich on tech 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:21.360 dot TV. There you can sign up for the newsletter. 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:24.520 Just had a new issue today, So if you're not 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:26.600 reading that, get on board. It's pretty cool. You just 1:06:26.600 --> 1:06:28.840 pop in your email address and you'll get an email 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:31.640 for me about that. Let's see what else can you 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:33.440 do there? You can email me from the website. You 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.280 can see the stories that I do on TV. You 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:39.640 can learn more about this radio show. Subscribe to the podcast. 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:43.840 It's a one stop shop rich on tech dot TV. 1:06:45.160 --> 1:06:49.960 Let's go to Christina in Long Beach. Christina, you're on 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:50.400 with Rich. 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:52.000 Hi. 1:06:52.320 --> 1:06:54.360 I need to get a new cell phone. I have 1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:58.280 an Android now and I need to save a voicemail. 1:06:58.280 --> 1:07:02.440 It's a very special voicemail. I'm wondering how I can 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:05.680 do that if I can transfer it and also an 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:09.880 on a side, I've been saving this voicemail saved safe face, 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:15.240 and then I can't find it on the regular voicemail call. 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:17.520 But then I look in the files and I have 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:21.440 seen it there, so that's kind of like a second question. 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:27.160 Right now, it's not saved underneath my voicemail, but prior 1:07:27.280 --> 1:07:30.240 I used to look in the some kind of voicemail 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:33.880 file and I found it. I'm like, how can I 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:36.400 How can I send it to my new phone or 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:39.200 send it to myself in a text or an email 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:40.920 and downloader on my new phone. 1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:44.760 Okay, well the first the first stop is, well, there's 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:47.760 a couple ways to this. Number one. The easiest way, 1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:50.400 you know there is share. There is a way to 1:07:50.440 --> 1:07:53.960 save voicemails on the visual voicemail apps. I'm both Android 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:57.200 and iPhone, so I'll start with iPhone. I know that's 1:07:57.200 --> 1:07:58.800 not what you asked for, but you know there's other 1:07:58.840 --> 1:08:01.560 people that use it, and so so if you're inside 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:06.000 the voicemail tab on your phone, tap a voicemail and 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:08.440 that will bring up a whole new kind of screen 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:12.000 and you'll see that familiar share icon. You tap that 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:15.480 share icon and you'll see there is an option to save, 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:18.479 so you can save it to your files, or you 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:21.680 can share it out to you know, Dropbox or your 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:25.960 Gmail or whatever you want for safekeeping. So that's number one. 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:29.760 Now on an Android, the app is you know, there's many, 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:31.840 many different androids out there, so it's gonna be a 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:33.760 little bit different depending on them. But you said you 1:08:33.840 --> 1:08:37.439 use a Samsung. They have an app called Voicemail. You 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:41.040 tap that voicemail app and once you get in there 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.720 and you see a voicemail, you can either press a 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:46.719 hold on that voicemail or there may be three dots. 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:50.200 But you again, there will be a menu for that message, 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:53.120 and there will be a share icon as well, and 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:56.080 so you can use that to share out the voicemail 1:08:56.479 --> 1:09:00.000 to another app like Dropbox or your email account or whatever. 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.280 It will be an audio file. There's also a way 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:06.360 to look for your voicemails on your phone. So if 1:09:06.360 --> 1:09:10.240 you go into the my files app the internal storage, 1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:15.080 there should be a folder for visual voicemail, and so 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.160 that's another place you can find it. So there's a 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:19.320 lot of different ways to do it. The other thing 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:22.080 you could do, Christina, if none of these options work, 1:09:22.280 --> 1:09:26.320 is just have a friend hold their phone near yours, 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:29.320 play the voicemail out loud, and have them record it 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:32.600 using their phone. And that's kind of like the easiest 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:36.520 method that anyone can do without a lot of technology, 1:09:36.560 --> 1:09:40.960 and it'll still save an audio recording of that voicemail? 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:42.599 Okay? 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:49.480 Can I about the voicemail app? Is this something I download? 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:52.639 Or I mean I go to voicemail on. 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:53.839 The phone app? 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:57.960 Right, know, the three dots on the top. Is that 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:00.559 going into my voicemail app? Because I'm you haven't seen 1:10:00.600 --> 1:10:03.400 a share button or any or menu or anything. 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:07.559 Okay, So if you search your phone, you know how 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:09.800 to search your phone On the Samsung you swipe up 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.760 and then tap up or says search and search for voicemail. 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:16.560 You should have a voicemail app, okay, and that is 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:18.240 a visual voicemail app. 1:10:18.960 --> 1:10:19.280 Okay. 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:21.240 So I open it up and then look for a 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.040 menu at the top, and then there should be a 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:25.120 share icon there. 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:27.479 Yeah, So look for your list of messages. Find the 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:30.120 message that you're trying to save. It should be in 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:32.200 this list. Now you may have to refresh a little bit, 1:10:32.600 --> 1:10:35.040 but you know you can scroll through that list and 1:10:35.160 --> 1:10:38.280 find the message and then find that share icon and 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.920 save it to your files or share it out. Are 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:43.400 you seeing your list of messages inside the voicemail app? 1:10:45.520 --> 1:10:46.400 I haven't tried it yet. 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:48.439 Oh you're on the phone, okay, so that's probably why. 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:50.960 But that's the way to do it, and so there's Look, 1:10:51.120 --> 1:10:54.759 there's definitely a way to save these are just audio files. 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:56.800 There is a way to save them. And I get 1:10:56.800 --> 1:10:59.080 this question very often from people that have, you know, 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:01.880 a loved one that left them a message or something 1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:04.719 like that, and they want to keep it forever. So again, 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:07.640 there are many, many, many ways of doing this. Like 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:09.920 I said, the easiest way is to just put your 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:12.960 phone on speaker, play the voicemail, and have someone else 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:15.400 record it and nearby with their phone and then send 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:17.479 you that file. That's if you can't figure out any 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:19.800 other way of doing this. But if you want to 1:11:19.800 --> 1:11:22.640 get the actual real file, there is a way to 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:26.080 retrieve it, both on iPhone and Samsung. So those are 1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:29.479 the methods. But play around inside that visual Voicemail app 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:32.400 and you should find a way to export that file. 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:34.880 What was did you have a second question? Was that 1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:36.200 a second question? You asked? 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:40.040 Oh, thank you? Well, my second question is I've been 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:42.880 saving this voicemail forever. And by the way, it's just 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:46.320 someone who passed away, so sorry to thank you. 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:47.679 It was my boyfriend, sad. 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:51.800 But anyway, I've been saving it and then all of 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:55.000 a sudden it's not on the regular voice app. 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:56.280 But I would. 1:11:55.960 --> 1:12:00.320 Find it in the files again and then and then 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:04.200 it's weird. It would still be in my audio file 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:08.000 in the audio files, but not on the voicemail app. 1:12:09.080 --> 1:12:11.519 Well, if they get archived, they do just go to 1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:14.400 the audio files inside that my file, so that could 1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:16.719 be what happened. And after a certain period of time, 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:19.760 I'm not sure you press the archive, but maybe at 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:24.439 auto archived. But you know, voicemails in general, they are 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:27.040 not it's not like a guaranteed system to live forever. 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:29.080 So it's you know, I do get a lot of 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:32.120 emails from time to time from people that have lost 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:34.400 a voicemail because they thought it would stay there forever. 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:38.519 They switch carriers, they switch whatever. Typically they will stay 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:41.160 in the background sometimes but not all of the time. 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:43.439 So it really just depends. But I would get this 1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:47.160 voicemail at least, do like today, just do a recording 1:12:47.200 --> 1:12:49.200 of it, like I mentioned, with someone else's phone, like 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:52.240 a friend's phone. Just do that just so you have 1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:53.960 it and then you can delve a little bit deeper. 1:12:53.960 --> 1:12:57.200 But there's definitely ways to save those voicemails so that 1:12:57.240 --> 1:13:02.200 you can have it for forever. Christina, good luck and 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:04.559 keep me posted. So if you if you're successful with this, 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:06.240 please send me an email on the website. Rich on 1:13:06.280 --> 1:13:09.080 tech dot tv. I want to hear the update. So okay, 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:11.479 thank you, thanks for the call today, appreciate it. Let's 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:15.000 go to uh Sam in Sherman Oaks. Sam, you're on 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:15.439 with Rich. 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:22.360 Yes, I'm looking for a indoor TV antenna that's good 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:25.640 for just for mainly forgetting local channels. 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:30.920 Okay, Well, we actually interviewed the CEO of a website 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:35.200 called Antenna's Direct. I've been recommending them for oh my gosh, 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:38.880 like probably fifteen years at least. At this point, they 1:13:38.880 --> 1:13:42.000 actually bought another company, so they bought the other company 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:44.240 that I recommended as well. So it's all in one. 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:47.400 But I would go to their website and depending on 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:50.240 where you are, you put in your zip code on 1:13:50.280 --> 1:13:53.760 this website. You're in Sherman Oaks, you said, not sure 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:55.600 the zip code there, but I'll just put in a 1:13:55.680 --> 1:13:57.200 random LA zip code here. 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:00.879 Zero one, nine to one. 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:03.559 For zero one, okay, nine to one for zero one. 1:14:03.600 --> 1:14:05.920 So you pop in that zip code and it will 1:14:06.120 --> 1:14:09.200 see it will show you like where you you know, 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:12.559 the channels that you can get where you're located, and 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:14.560 you know the antennas that are trying to beam it 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:19.000 to your house. So you can tap view antennas and 1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:22.719 it will show you the suggested antennas for your location. 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:25.680 And so for you, it looks like you need an 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:30.760 indoor amplified or an attic one UH and they have 1:14:30.840 --> 1:14:33.439 those ranging anywhere from thirty three dollars up to one 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:36.240 hundred and fifty nine dollars. And it gives you all 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.559 of the channels that you are able to receive and 1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:42.160 how far away those channels are broadcasting from you, so 1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:44.320 that you can understand how much of a signal. But 1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:46.680 in your area, you're in a very good area. The 1:14:46.720 --> 1:14:50.840 signals are strong for pretty much every single channel that 1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:54.479 I'm seeing on this list of over there's a lot 1:14:54.479 --> 1:14:59.679 of channels here. You have one hundred let's see, well, anyway, 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:01.920 there's a a lot of channels thirty three transmitters within 1:15:01.960 --> 1:15:04.839 seventy miles of you, and some of those have obviously 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:08.519 more than one UH station on those channels. So it 1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:10.040 looks like you're in a pretty good place there in 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:12.559 Sherman Oaks to get these to get these over the 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:17.519 air signals. So again the website Antennasdirect dot com and 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:21.880 Tennasdirect dot com. I'll link it up at Richontech dot TV. 1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:25.240 All right, coming up, I'm gonna explain, oh my pizza error, 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:28.280 why I ended up with two pizzas last night thanks 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:31.760 to the magic of technology. You are listening to rich 1:15:31.840 --> 1:15:44.799 on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.840 here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple A 1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:50.680 rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to 1:15:50.760 --> 1:15:54.360 two four one zero one. If the music sounds a 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:59.160 bit unusual today, that's because it has been generated completely 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:05.960 by AI. I used a website called udio udio dot com. 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:08.639 You type in what you want and it will generate 1:16:08.720 --> 1:16:11.839 a song. You can even paste in your own lyrics. 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:14.919 You can say whatever you want and it will generate 1:16:15.000 --> 1:16:17.160 a thirty second clip. You can make it longer, you 1:16:17.200 --> 1:16:19.439 can remix it, you can change the lyrics, whatever you 1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:22.120 want to do. It's pretty wild. Some big backers of 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.599 this website, which just launched this week to the public, 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:28.679 and this is the new reality, folks. We are going 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:32.000 to see more and more of these things that used 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:35.120 to be done by highly creative people, at least the 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:40.439 first draft perhaps done by AI. That's design, that's writing, 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:46.920 that's video audio photos. It's pretty wild. Do you want 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:50.160 to wish a happy birthday to call screen or Kim? 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:54.000 It is her birthday this weekend, so she is going 1:16:54.080 --> 1:16:58.360 to be partying all weekend to celebrate. So happy birthday, Kim. 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:00.800 I love that we get. You know, a lot of 1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:02.880 people know Kim from the call screening when they call in, 1:17:03.000 --> 1:17:05.880 so she's kind of gotten a little little name for 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:08.240 herself on this show and of course the previous show 1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:14.519 as well. Let's go to Ben in. I don't know 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:18.120 if it's La Louisiana. Ben, you're on with Rich? 1:17:19.160 --> 1:17:23.320 All right, Rich, I'm from La actually, okay, perfect, Los Angeles, 1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:23.760 got it. 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:29.240 So I have a ten year old MacBook. I need 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:34.360 to basically replace it, said the point where I can't 1:17:34.400 --> 1:17:38.680 update any softler. So I was wanting any recommendation. It's 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:41.680 just for personal use, not doing anything to major with 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:42.240 the just. 1:17:44.200 --> 1:17:46.840 You just need a laptop. Yeah, how much do you 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:47.439 want to spend? 1:17:49.280 --> 1:17:53.200 You know, I know MacBooks, so I'm about like three three. 1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:55.520 Four three or four thousand. 1:17:56.760 --> 1:18:00.920 I know how a MacBook. They're at Apples, Yeah, yeah, 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:04.479 I want to back. I'll have Apple products. 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:06.080 Okay, So you want and you have you have three 1:18:06.080 --> 1:18:10.040 to four thousand budget for a MacBook Yeah, okay, well, 1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:12.040 I mean get the top of the line, get the 1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:15.080 best MacBook Pro you can afford. I'd go with the 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:21.000 uh uh sixteen inch MacBook Pro and get the best 1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:23.200 specs that you can for three thousand bucks. I meant 1:18:23.280 --> 1:18:26.360 you kept your last computer for ten years, so I 1:18:26.400 --> 1:18:28.120 would you know it sounds like I mean, even if 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:29.640 you do the math, if you keep this one for 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:33.240 another ten you're talking, you know, three hundred dollars a year. 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:36.679 That's three hundred divided by twelve, that's twenty five bucks 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:39.280 a month. And I'm not I'm not talking payments. I'm 1:18:39.320 --> 1:18:42.200 just talking because I don't recommend, you know, payments at all. 1:18:42.240 --> 1:18:46.800 I do recommend buying this if you can outright, and 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:48.800 then I'm just saying how much this kind of costs 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:51.719 you over those years because you're using a law. But anyway, 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:54.639 sixteen inch MacBook Pro. They just came out with the 1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:57.960 the M three chips. I would get one of those, 1:18:58.680 --> 1:19:02.280 the uh, you know, the base model for that. You're 1:19:02.320 --> 1:19:04.680 talking twenty four to ninety nine that gets you the 1:19:04.800 --> 1:19:07.880 sixteen inch screen. Let's see what kind of specs they 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:09.639 give you for the drive and stuff like that. 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:12.080 Do they have one with a touch screen? 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:15.840 They do not. And I'll be honest, every time, I'm 1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:19.679 getting more and more upset with Apple because I test 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:22.400 all these other Windows computers that have all gone touchscreen, 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:25.720 and it's it's pretty nice to have that feature. I'm 1:19:25.760 --> 1:19:29.800 testing a sixteen inch Samsung right now, and it's got 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:33.679 a gorgeous screen and it's touchscreen, and it is slick, 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:38.160 and it's it's basically Samsung's answer to the MacBook Pro, 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:42.960 and it's it's really really nice. That's the Galaxy Book 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.479 four series. But again, you said you've got all Mac 1:19:45.520 --> 1:19:47.360 so of course you want to stick with that. This 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:50.960 for your budget twenty let's say three thousand bucks, you 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:54.840 get eighteen gigs of memory, you get their brand new 1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:57.160 M three chip, you get a five hundred and twelve 1:19:57.200 --> 1:19:59.600 gigabyte storage, which I don't think is that much. I 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:02.880 probably ump that up to a terabyte if you can. 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:04.719 And then you're going to get the ports that they offer, 1:20:04.760 --> 1:20:08.280 which is a memory card, you know, headphone HDMI, and 1:20:08.320 --> 1:20:12.120 a couple of mag Safe ports sorry Thunderbolt ports. So 1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:14.640 that's going to be a really nice computer for that 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:19.200 price tag. On the cheap end of things, Ben, if 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:20.559 you don't want to spend a lot, or if you're 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:22.639 listening and you don't want to spend as much as 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:25.400 Ben is wanting to spend. I think the best deal 1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:29.640 right now is the M one MacBook Air at Walmart. 1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:32.759 It is selling for six hundred and ninety nine dollars. 1:20:33.400 --> 1:20:36.080 That is an incredible deal. I've actually seen it as 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:39.960 low as six point fifty, so watch that price. Because 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:43.000 Walmart's offering it for six ninety nine. Some other retailers 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:44.559 have swooped in and said, you know what, we'll do 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:48.160 six fifty. So that I think is the best value 1:20:48.240 --> 1:20:52.600 for a MacBook Air or a cheap Apple computer is 1:20:52.640 --> 1:20:56.439 the MacBook Air thirteen inch M one at Walmart six 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:59.240 hundred ninety nine dollars. First time that Walmart is selling 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:05.000 an Apple MacBook and they came out swinging with this 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:07.479 price tag. It's a really, really compelling price tag. I 1:21:07.520 --> 1:21:09.519 think the cheapest we saw it over the holidays was 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:12.160 like seven fifty, so it's like fifty dollars cheaper. And 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:14.040 if you get it for that six fifty somewhere, if 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:16.719 they do that sale again, even cheaper. But for Ben, 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.080 for you, that sixteen inch MacBook Pro I think is 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:20.920 going to be the best. I went with the fourteen 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.439 inch MacBook Pro and I hate it. It's way too 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:27.120 small of a screen. I'm probably gonna upgrade, and I 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:29.280 don't think I need the Pro anymore because the m 1:21:29.400 --> 1:21:32.080 chips have gotten so good. I think I'm just going 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:36.360 with the MacBook Air sixteen inch or is it fifteen inch? 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.960 I think it's fifteen inch. Actually, let me say here, 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:41.160 it's been a while since. Oh it's in my bag. 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:44.240 You know I'm shopping on Apple when it's already in 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:48.240 my bag. Yeah, it's a fifteen inch MacBook Air. And 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:51.840 the one that I've specked out is about it's almost 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:55.599 like three thousand bucks because I want a higher end 1:21:56.840 --> 1:22:00.559 memory and storage. Okay, thanks for the call, benppreciate it. 1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:05.400 Let's go to Carlos in Downy. Carlos, you're on with Rich. 1:22:06.120 --> 1:22:06.599 I'm Rich. 1:22:07.160 --> 1:22:08.080 Good to hear from you. 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:09.680 I got to hear from you for you. 1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:12.880 I don't know if you've already discussed this or not. 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:18.080 When it a see if there's an external hard drive 1:22:18.960 --> 1:22:22.720 where I can go ahead and transfer my pictures from 1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:27.280 my iPhone videos from my iPhone via air drop. I 1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:30.960 went to Apple, but all they suggested, obviously was the cloud. 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:34.559 Yeah, of course they did, because guess what you pay forever. 1:22:34.880 --> 1:22:40.360 And it's so mysterious. Snology the company that makes these 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:44.400 network attached storage drives they have, Oh my gosh, the 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:48.320 name of it is evading me. But it's like, oh 1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:50.000 my gosh, I got to remember the name of this. 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:52.599 But it's called like sugar Bee or something like that. 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:56.679 But it's this little drive that they came up with, 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.240 and it's a let's say, sync drive. I gotta find 1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:03.599 the name of this thing, but it's a it's okay, 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:06.200 I'll figure out the name before we at some point 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:09.000 during the show. But there is a drive that lets 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:12.360 you kind of sync. You plug in your iPhone into 1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:14.360 your computer and it will kind of suck the pictures 1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:16.400 off the iPhone and put them onto this little drive. 1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:19.479 And so it's like a good alternative and it's like 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:22.599 a one terabyte drive. I mentioned it on the show. 1:23:23.160 --> 1:23:27.280 I'm trying to remember what the name of it is, 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.840 and I really can't remember right now, but if I 1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:32.240 if I think of it, I will mention it on 1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:34.559 the show. Maybe during the break, I'll figure it out. 1:23:34.840 --> 1:23:39.559 But it's like it's like, oh gosh, it's yeah, and 1:23:39.560 --> 1:23:40.439 you're using iPhone. 1:23:40.479 --> 1:23:42.719 Did you say, yeah, I'm using an eyeball. 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:44.280 Now, there's some other ways you can do it. Do 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:46.000 you have a Windows computer or a Mac? 1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:47.320 I have a Mac. 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:49.200 Okay, I was gonna say, because you know, you could 1:23:49.240 --> 1:23:51.559 just plug your phone into your Mac and just have 1:23:51.680 --> 1:23:54.960 it take the photos off and put them into iPhoto 1:23:55.040 --> 1:23:57.120 and then back that up to a hard drive. Now, 1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:59.160 what I don't like about the way iPhoto does it 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:01.920 is they put them in a p prietary filing system, 1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:05.000 which is a pain if you ever want to sort 1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:07.280 of do anything else with those pictures. So I'm not 1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:09.679 a huge fan of that. But there's also some apps 1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:11.240 as well that you might want to take a look at. 1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:15.439 They just they just launched a new app that I'm 1:24:15.560 --> 1:24:20.720 testing called alt Tunes a L T t U n es. 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:23.840 Right now, it's just on Windows, but it will be 1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:26.840 coming to the Mac. But that's one way, And I 1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:29.559 Amazing is another app that you can check out. Have 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:30.280 you heard of that one? 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:32.639 No, I haven't heard of that one. I do have 1:24:32.760 --> 1:24:35.000 Google Photos where I do. 1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:35.479 Back it up. 1:24:35.680 --> 1:24:37.960 Okay, but I want to go ahead and have you 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.840 want that copy. Yeah, in case googleever it goes you know, 1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:44.760 caput or something, at least I have a backup and 1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:47.760 not lose everything that I have on Google Photos. 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:50.439 You can also just use image capture built into your 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:53.680 computer and just just dragging. I mean, if you're just 1:24:53.720 --> 1:24:56.200 trying to get them onto a drive, you can just 1:24:56.360 --> 1:24:58.840 plug your phone into your computer use image capture. It 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:01.960 kind of remembers the photos that you've imported versus not. 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:04.320 So you know, let's say you do this once a week. 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:07.160 You just import the new ones and then just drag 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:09.120 them onto a hard drive or just import them directly 1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:10.720 to that hard drive. Why don't you do that? That's 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:14.439 like the cheapest, easiest and free. Oh okay, have you 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:15.479 tried image capture? 1:25:15.840 --> 1:25:17.200 No, I haven't tried it. 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:17.639 It's built. 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:22.280 I do have the extern that there's a small sanded 1:25:23.800 --> 1:25:26.759 flash drive where I've used it, But that just takes 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:29.960 a while. The profits and most of the videos are 1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:33.679 about a minute long. They're nothing really over five minutes. 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:35.800 Y're a minute or too long, but it takes a 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:37.519 while for you to go ahead and be able to 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:41.519 process it through into the small flash drive and then 1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:44.680 get the flash drive connected on my MacBook and then 1:25:44.800 --> 1:25:49.120 extract it from the flash drive over to my external drive. 1:25:49.560 --> 1:25:51.960 So I was wondering, I'm like, is there one way 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:53.920 where we could just do it? Air drop it? 1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:56.960 The air drop is going to be you could do that, 1:25:57.000 --> 1:25:58.280 but that's going to be a pain because you have 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:00.839 to figure out which pictures you've done which you haven't. 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:03.519 I think I think image capture that's that's built into 1:26:03.560 --> 1:26:05.479 your Mac That's probably gonna be the easiest. That's what 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:08.759 I used to to import stuff from all kinds of media, 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:11.599 you know, whether you connect a SD card or a phone, 1:26:11.640 --> 1:26:14.479 whatever it is. But the iPhone, of course, works really 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:17.240 nice with that. So I'd use that and just do 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.680 that once a week. It'll it'll remember. It marks the 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:21.760 pictures that you've already imported with like a little dot 1:26:21.880 --> 1:26:24.600 or something like a little green dot. I think it 1:26:24.640 --> 1:26:26.880 also it depends you have an iPhone with the USBC 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:29.519 or the Lightning USBC. 1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:32.680 Okay, I was gonna say I have them. 1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:36.840 I think USBC started with the fifteen though. 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:38.960 Okay, so then yes you have Lightning. 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:42.120 So I will say, if you want to try the 1:26:42.280 --> 1:26:45.120 method where you plug the flash drive directly into the iPhone. 1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:50.920 The connection has gotten considerably faster since the lightning connection 1:26:51.160 --> 1:26:54.840 on the USB C It's a lot faster. So, oh 1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:56.559 what am I saying? You didn't get the USBC, So 1:26:56.640 --> 1:26:59.360 never mind, it's not gonna matter. But for anyone else 1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:02.160 that's listening that does have USBC, it is a lot faster. 1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:07.599 And they also make drives that kind of had two sides. Well, okay, 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:09.160 now I'm confusing a lot of things because there's a 1:27:09.200 --> 1:27:11.720 drive with like a lightning on one side, USBC on 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:14.519 the other, or the one that I have has USBC 1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:18.200 on one side and then a standard USB on the 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:19.760 other side. So there's a lot of ways to do this. 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:21.639 But at the end of the day, Carlos, I think 1:27:21.680 --> 1:27:24.280 the simplest way is going to be connect your phone 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:27.120 with a cable to your computer and just use that 1:27:27.200 --> 1:27:30.120 image capture. It'll pull the new images off the phone, 1:27:30.200 --> 1:27:32.080 drag them to that drive, or just import them into 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:34.920 that file and that drive the folder, and that's the 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:37.920 best way to keep that physical copy. Thanks so much 1:27:37.920 --> 1:27:40.240 for the call today, eighty eight rich one on one 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:42.679 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.280 one coming up. I'll tell you about my pizza story 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:48.879 and why Google is launching its answer to the AirTag network. 1:27:49.080 --> 1:28:08.400 You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:13.320 Rios zach Rich zero here eighty eight rich one on 1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:16.160 one eighty eight seven four two four one zero one. 1:28:16.240 --> 1:28:18.000 Let's get to Terry and seal Beach. 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:21.719 A very patient Terry, thanks for holding on the line 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:26.799 for a while. Welcome to the show. Hello, how Rich, Helloha. 1:28:26.439 --> 1:28:27.800 And happy birthday to Kim. 1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:30.320 She's the backbone of your show in case you haven't 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:32.120 already realized that, Oh. 1:28:32.000 --> 1:28:34.960 She is the shell. Yeah, I know, believe me. What 1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:35.640 can I help you with? 1:28:36.040 --> 1:28:38.560 Well, you know you were speaking about flying over the 1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:41.360 Pacific Ocean. Can I share with you very quickly a 1:28:41.439 --> 1:28:42.559 story that involves you? 1:28:43.520 --> 1:28:43.800 Sure? 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:44.839 Okay? 1:28:44.840 --> 1:28:48.040 Two months ago I was flying to Fiji on Fiji Airways, 1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:49.639 and you. 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:53.880 May not be surprised to learn that the bottle of 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:57.280 water that they sell is or that they serve is 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:58.080 Fiji water. 1:28:58.600 --> 1:28:59.920 Makes sense, Okay. 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:03.360 So, as I'm doing this ten hour red eye flight 1:29:03.400 --> 1:29:07.000 from Lax to Fiji, at three AM, I go back 1:29:07.320 --> 1:29:10.160 to the cabin to get a glass of water, and 1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:13.679 I'm talking to the cabin crew about how relatively expensive 1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:17.920 Fiji water is in the States, and I repeated the 1:29:18.000 --> 1:29:20.240 story that you told on the air about how the 1:29:20.280 --> 1:29:23.439 only bottled water that your kids, who are not even 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:26.639 teenagers yet will drink is water. 1:29:26.800 --> 1:29:29.240 It's not the only water they'll drink, it's just if 1:29:29.280 --> 1:29:31.519 I ever give them a choice, that's what they prefer, 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:33.760 because they yeah, clearly they're spoiled, but. 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:38.479 Yes, obviously they're water kind of stores. And the cabin 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:39.320 crew thought. 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:42.400 That was hilarious and they said to tell you bulah, 1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:45.439 which is the equivalency of aloha. 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:48.840 Ah okay boolah huh okay. Very cool, that's a great story. 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:55.040 Well, anyway, on my trip, I have a unlocked Google 1:29:55.280 --> 1:30:00.680 Pixel five A five G which did not I have 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:05.440 support for eSIM, and so when I flew to Fiji 1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:07.960 and then later on to Australia, I had to buy 1:30:08.240 --> 1:30:11.800 two different physical SIM cards, and the one that I 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:14.440 used in Australia first time I ever used Votaphone. 1:30:14.479 --> 1:30:18.080 They were absolutely terrible. I would not recommend them to anyone. 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:23.400 And even though I was supposed to have text messaging 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:29.880 capabilities on my Votaphone sim card, only some. 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:36.400 Messages would be communicated and the text support was terrible, 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:39.000 and I actually was thinking About'm getting ready to go 1:30:39.040 --> 1:30:43.600 to Greece and I was seriously looking at replacing my 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:49.479 phone until I found out that my old Google Pixel 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:52.560 five A five G now has eSIM capability. 1:30:52.640 --> 1:30:54.439 Oh they added it with a software update. 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:59.479 Well that was my question for you, apparently, So I mean. 1:30:59.360 --> 1:31:01.479 They definitely can do it, because I I've been testing 1:31:01.520 --> 1:31:03.680 a one plus phone that when it came out it 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:05.880 did not have eSIM, but then they did a software 1:31:05.920 --> 1:31:09.200 update and it does, so it is possible. I can't 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:12.599 confirm that for the Pixel five A, but I you know, 1:31:12.800 --> 1:31:16.519 if you say it and I believe it. But uh, yeah, 1:31:16.560 --> 1:31:19.240 so what so your question is what should you try? 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:22.040 A Yeah, it does say it does have an eSIM, 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:24.360 so you're going to try an eSIM this time around 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:24.960 before you go? 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:25.639 Right? 1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:26.120 Okay? 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:29.160 And I know that I know that you've spoken previously 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:30.639 highly of Erlow. 1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:33.680 So the only thing about Erlo is they do not 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:37.560 support text messaging. So I was wondering if there's a 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:39.479 couple of others that I've been looking at that I've 1:31:39.479 --> 1:31:40.160 never heard of. 1:31:40.680 --> 1:31:45.000 Well here's the deal. It's it's kind of interesting because 1:31:45.040 --> 1:31:48.160 it's not the text. It will support text messaging if 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:54.559 your primary carrier offers uh tech Wi Fi messaging. So 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.840 if your pixel is set up with your primary phone 1:31:57.880 --> 1:32:00.120 line and it has you know you have one. I 1:32:00.120 --> 1:32:03.040 find messaging like most of the modern carriers. Now, which 1:32:03.080 --> 1:32:03.800 carrier do you have? 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:06.560 I'm actually with Consumer. 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:09.599 Okay, do they have do they offer? Okay? Well, actually okay, 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:12.160 So they're interesting because I was looking at their their 1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:14.800 support for overseas, it's a little different than a lot 1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:17.200 of the carriers, so I'd be very careful. In fact, 1:32:17.240 --> 1:32:19.000 I would not use them at all overseas. 1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:19.880 Well. 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:23.240 That's why I've been buying physical cards because they country 1:32:23.280 --> 1:32:26.320 that I go to they do not have overseas or. 1:32:26.360 --> 1:32:28.280 Yeah, and they do charge if you do any sort 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:29.280 of roaming or anything like that. 1:32:29.360 --> 1:32:33.439 But but domestically I've been with them for years. They're awesome. 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:36.479 I did go with Google Fi for one month and 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:40.880 they were absolutely well. My experience was absolutely terrible. 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:44.439 So I just tested I just tested back to consumer. 1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:46.720 I just tested Google Fi a couple of weeks ago, 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:49.639 and they actually were They exceeded my expectations. I thought 1:32:49.680 --> 1:32:53.160 it was pretty great. But anyway, so long story short 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:56.920 about the sims. I don't in general recommend that. The 1:32:56.960 --> 1:32:58.680 problem with the SIM if you're going to get a 1:32:58.800 --> 1:33:01.280 separate phone number, people are going to be texting you 1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:04.920 on that random phone number when you're overseas, that's really 1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:07.840 complicated unless you're there for an extremely long period of time. 1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:11.559 I would not recommend that. So my advice is to 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:16.200 just have people text you through you know, a WhatsApp 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:19.519 or a Facebook messenger, and they just you just have to, 1:33:19.640 --> 1:33:22.360 you know, send out to your close friends and family 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:25.759 that hey, I'm on you know, vacation or traveling or whatever, 1:33:26.200 --> 1:33:29.559 and I can't take your text because if Consumer Cellular 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:33.120 doesn't offer that, you know, the Wi Fi texting, then 1:33:34.320 --> 1:33:36.760 to go through the hassle of setting up a whole 1:33:36.760 --> 1:33:38.080 new phone number, I don't even know how you tell 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:40.280 people that number for just the week you're all overseas. 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:43.680 But most of the sims are data only. They're not 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:47.519 really meant for calls. You can do voice over IP calls, 1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:51.599 but they're all meant for data pretty much. That's that's 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:55.320 my advice, Ara Low and then US Mobile also has 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:58.679 an international e SIM coming up. We're going to talk 1:33:58.680 --> 1:34:02.360 more about mobile networks with the CEO of mobile X. 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:10.120 You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 1:34:10.200 --> 1:34:12.679 on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:17.679 technology the website for the show richon Tech dot TV. 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:22.479 Joining me now is Peter Adderton, founder and CEO of 1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:27.320 a new mobile service called mobile X. He also is 1:34:27.360 --> 1:34:31.479 the founder of Boost Mobile. Peter, Welcome to the show. 1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:35.360 Thanks Rich Thanks for having me. So first off, give 1:34:35.360 --> 1:34:38.280 me the history on Boost, like you founded that. Obviously 1:34:38.360 --> 1:34:40.360 you've moved on since then, but what was sort of 1:34:40.400 --> 1:34:42.800 the synthesis back then, Like what was your main goal 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:43.360 with Boost? 1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:45.680 You know, when we first came to the US, and 1:34:45.680 --> 1:34:47.559 I think about two thousand and two thousand and one 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:52.680 to launch Boost, prepaid basically was nonexistent. Most carriers were 1:34:52.720 --> 1:34:55.439 trying to chase the postpaid customer, which in their minds 1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:58.000 they considered to be the higher value customer, and so 1:34:58.120 --> 1:35:00.559 prepaid was pretty much being left behind. Obviously you can 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:03.639 tell from my accent I'm Australian. What we were seeing 1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:06.439 in Australia and outside the US was the prepaid was 1:35:06.479 --> 1:35:08.600 really starting to grow and it was growing to like 1:35:08.600 --> 1:35:11.479 fifty percent of the market. So I saw an incredible 1:35:11.479 --> 1:35:12.800 opportunity here to launch boost. 1:35:12.840 --> 1:35:14.559 We launched it with next Heel back in the day. 1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:16.439 I think you might remember the push to talk oh 1:35:16.560 --> 1:35:19.720 ye ide and technology, the whole where you at campaign 1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:23.320 put Kanye West into his first commercial and really built 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:26.040 a brand that was you know that's still here today, 1:35:26.080 --> 1:35:28.800 I think some twenty years later. So you know, that 1:35:28.960 --> 1:35:33.160 was really the kind of drive behind it was to 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:35.800 try to give you know, the unconnected the ability to 1:35:35.800 --> 1:35:37.800 get connected. So that's really what we've been doing for 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:39.759 the last twenty years, focused on the consumer. 1:35:40.320 --> 1:35:43.519 And now you've got this new venture called mobile X 1:35:43.760 --> 1:35:46.720 and this is a an MV and O, so we 1:35:46.800 --> 1:35:50.080 have to explain what that is and also it used 1:35:50.120 --> 1:35:52.240 a lot of AI and so what are you trying 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:54.559 to Well, first off, explain Mobile X and kind of 1:35:54.560 --> 1:35:56.400 what you're trying to do this time around. 1:35:57.640 --> 1:35:57.840 Yeah. 1:35:57.880 --> 1:36:00.240 So one of the things that's always been a kind 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:02.840 of a concern to me that consumers aren't really aware 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:04.920 of is that a lot of them are buying data 1:36:04.920 --> 1:36:07.360 that they never need. I mean, I'll ask you this question, 1:36:07.439 --> 1:36:09.040 Rich and I'm almost positive you're not going to be 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:09.640 able to answer it. 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:11.559 How much data do you need? Do you use? 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:14.400 No idea? I know I do know. From time to 1:36:14.439 --> 1:36:17.200 time I check my wife's usage and it's like so 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:19.519 minuscule that I'm like, I laugh at her. I'm like, what, 1:36:19.760 --> 1:36:21.840 you don't do anything on your phone? But I do. 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:24.759 Obviously I probably use more data than the average person, 1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:27.519 But I agree, we're paying in advance for something that 1:36:27.640 --> 1:36:29.320 you know, we don't even know how much we're using 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:30.559 or how much we might need. 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:31.680 No. 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:33.360 So what we wanted to do with Mobile X, I 1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:35.080 mean a lot of people also don't realize that the 1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:37.200 carriers make their money two ways. They sell you data 1:36:37.280 --> 1:36:39.439 they know you don't need, and then when you go 1:36:39.560 --> 1:36:42.799 over they charge you. So it's kind of overage and breakage. 1:36:42.840 --> 1:36:44.280 So what we wanted to do is we wanted to 1:36:44.320 --> 1:36:47.200 right size that. So I wanted to put machine learning 1:36:47.240 --> 1:36:49.000 AI in the consumer's hands. 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:51.840 And have them tell us what they need. And what 1:36:51.880 --> 1:36:52.639 we're found is. 1:36:52.600 --> 1:36:55.519 And I found this even myself, my bill hasn't been 1:36:55.520 --> 1:36:57.520 any more than sixteen or seventeen. 1:36:57.080 --> 1:36:58.640 Dollars because a lot of what I do is in 1:36:58.680 --> 1:36:59.080 Wi Fi. 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:01.599 Then when I'm out on the road, I mean, unless 1:37:01.640 --> 1:37:03.600 you're using video, and even if you use video, we 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:05.320 give you the option to be able to use four 1:37:05.360 --> 1:37:08.439 eighty seven twenty or ten eighty or four K. I've 1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:10.280 got mindset at four eighty. I can't even tell the 1:37:10.280 --> 1:37:13.559 difference in video quality. So we really put a lot 1:37:13.600 --> 1:37:16.280 of the control back into the consumer's hands and we 1:37:16.360 --> 1:37:19.080 use machine learning AI to help them, and we are 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:23.439 bringing down the bills significantly. As an example, my family 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:25.880 BILLT on AT and T before I jumped over to 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:28.320 Mobile X was north of three hundred dollars. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:30.439 Now we're south of fifty. 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:34.040 And we have done nothing different other than we're not 1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:36.360 paying for data that we don't need. And so I 1:37:36.400 --> 1:37:39.479 think if consumers really want to save money, and now's 1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:39.920 the time. 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:40.240 To do it right. 1:37:40.280 --> 1:37:43.960 Obviously we're coming into an inflationary period, things are going up. 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:46.240 Great way to save it is to get on Mobile X, 1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:49.000 try us out for ten days, let the AI do 1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:51.280 its work and it comes back and basically customize a 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:53.720 plan exactly for what you need. And as I said, 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:57.240 the majority of people, we're saving significant amounts of money for. 1:37:57.479 --> 1:37:59.640 A couple points. So the reason I'm having you on 1:37:59.680 --> 1:38:02.120 the shelf, first off, because I've been testing Mobile X. 1:38:02.960 --> 1:38:05.920 I used it throughout my entire trip in Hawaii, had 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:09.439 no issues whatsoever. But it's funny you said the four 1:38:09.520 --> 1:38:12.479 eighty because I was just inside the app kind of 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:14.360 looking at some of the settings, and I noticed that 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:17.120 my video was streaming at four eighty. And I'm a 1:38:17.160 --> 1:38:20.200 pretty like tech savvy guy, and I did not notice 1:38:20.240 --> 1:38:22.400 that in any way, shape or form that my video 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:25.080 was streaming at four eighty on a brand new Samsung 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:28.240 S twenty four Ultra, which has a great screen. I 1:38:28.280 --> 1:38:31.320 didn't tell the difference there, So clearly, you know, I 1:38:31.320 --> 1:38:34.479 don't think that matters to most people. I'm looking at 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:36.920 the plans on your website. One of them starts at 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:39.439 four dollars and eight cents a month, another one starts 1:38:39.439 --> 1:38:41.840 at fifteen a month for five gigs, and then another 1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:45.200 one is thirty gigs for twenty five dollars. Of course, 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:48.559 it's unlimited talking text with all those plans. But I 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:51.839 think that the main issue with people and their cellular 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:54.920 carriers is they are very scared to switch. So I 1:38:54.960 --> 1:38:57.720 know that I'm overpaying for my wife's line specifically, and 1:38:57.760 --> 1:39:00.880 our bill just went up, but it's so scary, like 1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:03.120 she questions, like, wait, am I going to lose this? 1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:04.640 Am I going to lose that? Is this going to 1:39:04.720 --> 1:39:07.040 work the same. Do you find that to be the case. 1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:10.920 Yeah, Look, I think that you know changing and that's 1:39:10.920 --> 1:39:13.040 why we have this thing called churn in the industry, 1:39:13.040 --> 1:39:14.760 and it's very very low, right. 1:39:14.680 --> 1:39:17.160 And that's because people are scared to. 1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:19.200 Be able to switch across, you know, an mv and 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:21.360 O like our sales Mobile X. We're on the best 1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:24.800 network in the country. We have the same access that 1:39:24.880 --> 1:39:27.760 everybody else has and we have better tools. So it 1:39:27.840 --> 1:39:30.760 really is for consumers can save themselves significant amounts of 1:39:30.760 --> 1:39:33.080 money by jumping over to mv and os like Mobile X. 1:39:33.640 --> 1:39:34.839 And I say this to everybody. 1:39:34.920 --> 1:39:37.599 And when you leave your house, you don't know leave 1:39:37.640 --> 1:39:39.240 all the lights on, right, You run around and you 1:39:39.280 --> 1:39:41.960 turn them all off, right because you're trying to save money. 1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:45.080 And even when you look at filling up your car, 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:45.680 you fill it up. 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:47.160 If I filled your car up and at the end 1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:48.519 of the month, I came and siphoned it out, no 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:51.040 matter how much gas you used, that's exactly what the 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:53.080 carriers do. They give you all this data and at 1:39:53.080 --> 1:39:54.720 the end of the month they siphon out even if 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:57.000 you haven't used it, and then recharge you again. So 1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:01.439 I think the consumers are getting smart, they're getting wiser, 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:03.880 and they're quickly realizing that they don't need one of 1:40:03.880 --> 1:40:06.760 the big three brands when you can actually get one 1:40:06.800 --> 1:40:10.080 of the big three brands networks and save yourself a 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:12.759 significant amount of money. And as I said, my usage 1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:16.040 hasn't changed, my experience has got better. And so I 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:18.040 really encourage consumers to get out there and have a 1:40:18.080 --> 1:40:20.240 look because it really can. 1:40:20.360 --> 1:40:23.240 As I said, it can save them significant families. 1:40:23.439 --> 1:40:25.840 Thousands of dollars, by the way, a year, not not 1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:27.880 like hundreds thousands of dollars a year. 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:29.439 MOBILEX can save them. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:33.040 What about this idea of poorting out the number? Is 1:40:33.080 --> 1:40:36.439 that process tough? Is it easy? Is it automated? What's 1:40:36.439 --> 1:40:37.000 the deal with that? 1:40:37.760 --> 1:40:38.599 It's pretty easy. 1:40:38.640 --> 1:40:40.439 Actually, you go on, you ask your carrier for a 1:40:40.439 --> 1:40:41.960 port out pin, they give you a port out pin, 1:40:42.040 --> 1:40:44.040 You put that into the app. We're all up driven, 1:40:44.120 --> 1:40:48.000 and then the number switches across. For the majority of people, 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:48.960 it's seamless. 1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:49.360 For me. 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:52.760 When I moved over my family, I think it took 1:40:52.840 --> 1:40:56.080 about sixty seconds and I was up and running on 1:40:56.680 --> 1:41:00.280 Mobile X, coming across from AT and T. So it's 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:03.080 it's it's not that hard. I mean, it's daunting to 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:04.880 a lot of people. You can do it in the app, 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.040 you don't need to go into a store. We've got 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:10.040 an incredible customer care team that's focused on this, so 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:12.080 you can get onto them straight away and they'll make 1:41:12.120 --> 1:41:15.480 sure they help you out. But again, these are thousands 1:41:15.560 --> 1:41:18.479 of dollars of savings. In fact, the matter I'm saving 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:22.519 my eldest daughter. We leased a car on the monthly 1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:25.040 mount that we were saving. Wow, we've actually got her 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:27.600 at car. And so I tell people this is not 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:31.000 about saving pennies. You can save hundreds of dollars by 1:41:31.040 --> 1:41:32.200 just checking out mobile ax. 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:33.799 And again we've got experience. 1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:36.120 I founded the Boost business, which has got millions of 1:41:36.120 --> 1:41:38.559 customers and saved a lot of people a lot of money. 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:40.639 This is the next step, in my. 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:45.240 Opinion, in mobile communications and how consumers really can take 1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:45.920 control back. 1:41:46.439 --> 1:41:48.800 How big of it? How big of a deal is 1:41:48.840 --> 1:41:50.599 it that you guys got into Walmart? 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:54.360 Oh, look, it's huge. I mean, you know, everybody knows that. 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:57.160 You know, ninety percent of Americans live within ten miles 1:41:57.160 --> 1:42:01.040 of a Walmart. Walmart's also all of saving people money 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:01.559 and making. 1:42:01.400 --> 1:42:04.000 Their lives better. That's exactly what mobilex is. 1:42:04.439 --> 1:42:06.600 And so yeah, I mean it also gives us credibility, 1:42:06.600 --> 1:42:08.920 I think to consumers. You know, Walmart doesn't just put 1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:11.840 anybody in their stores, and so if you're well, I'm 1:42:11.840 --> 1:42:14.280 not too sure who mobile x is, Oh wow, Walmart's 1:42:14.320 --> 1:42:14.920 got them in there. 1:42:15.160 --> 1:42:16.400 You can go in and see us as. 1:42:16.240 --> 1:42:18.800 An inline in there. You can buy it online through 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:22.240 Walmart dot com. But I think that that should give people, 1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:23.040 you know. 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:25.560 The feeling of security. 1:42:25.600 --> 1:42:27.880 The other thing is we run on the Verizon network, right, 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:30.640 which is the largest network, you know, as far as 1:42:30.720 --> 1:42:34.080 I'm concerned, in America. So we've got a great network, 1:42:34.200 --> 1:42:37.639 great retail partner, great technology, and now we've got obviously 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:41.160 phones online, so you can actually go get phones as well, 1:42:41.240 --> 1:42:43.679 so there's really good chance to go on and enjoy 1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:44.240 mobile x. 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:47.479 It's funny. That's what made me take you guys seriously. 1:42:47.520 --> 1:42:49.320 I'd been pitched on this a couple of times, and 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:51.840 I was familiar. But when I was at Walmart and 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:54.080 I saw the display and I saw that most of 1:42:54.120 --> 1:42:57.880 the simcards are actually gone, I said, huh interesting. You know, 1:42:58.080 --> 1:42:59.920 the fact that you're in Walmart and the fact that 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:03.240 people are buying these SIM cards clearly tells me something 1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:06.320 that people are interested in. This real quick, I've got 1:43:06.320 --> 1:43:10.559 about thirty seconds explain that that AI tool that kind 1:43:10.600 --> 1:43:14.479 of learns your usage, because that's really interesting. If you're 1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:17.000 like you know, you just use your phone a tiny bit, 1:43:17.040 --> 1:43:18.120 this could save you a lot. 1:43:19.479 --> 1:43:21.519 It doesn't. So I'll give you a classic example. 1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:23.400 A customer ring me up the other day and they 1:43:23.439 --> 1:43:26.320 put their mother in law on Mobile X and she 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:28.559 basically signed up, did the whole thing, poured it over 1:43:28.960 --> 1:43:31.040 and she said, now what and they said nothing. Just 1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:32.160 go do what you're going to do, and at the 1:43:32.240 --> 1:43:33.599 end of the eight days, it'll come back and tell 1:43:33.600 --> 1:43:35.519 you what you plan is. You don't need to pick 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:38.720 a plan. The plan actually picks you, and we use 1:43:38.800 --> 1:43:40.200 machine learning AI to do that. 1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:42.519 So you basically just go around do whatever you're doing. 1:43:42.479 --> 1:43:44.639 And at the end of the ten days we come 1:43:44.640 --> 1:43:46.680 back and say, here's the exact plan for you. Now, 1:43:46.720 --> 1:43:48.439 if you're supposed to be one of those unlimited plans, 1:43:48.439 --> 1:43:50.000 we'll tell you right. If you're using a lot of data, 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:52.280 we'll say, hey, these are the best plans. But the 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:55.000 majority of people, seventy to eighty percent of them aren't 1:43:55.040 --> 1:43:57.919 going on to an unlimited plan and basically spending between 1:43:58.120 --> 1:44:01.240 five and fifteen dollars a month. So it really is 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:04.040 incredible when you actually know and that question I asked 1:44:04.080 --> 1:44:05.920 you at the beginning, how much data you use? You 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:07.680 can go into the app and find out very very 1:44:07.720 --> 1:44:10.000 quickly and we'll tell you. And each month, by the way, 1:44:10.040 --> 1:44:11.680 you can change your plan. You know, as you know 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:15.000 right now today most plans are stuck. So whether you 1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:17.759 do a three months, six months or twelve month, we don't. 1:44:17.880 --> 1:44:20.280 We let you change your plan every month if it's 1:44:20.320 --> 1:44:22.360 going to save you money real quick. 1:44:22.520 --> 1:44:24.360 Do you support the Apple Watch. 1:44:25.320 --> 1:44:29.240 We're about to We don't today, we're about to. Apple 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:31.280 is a unique group. As you know, you're in tech, 1:44:31.320 --> 1:44:34.959 so you understand that they they have a special experience 1:44:35.000 --> 1:44:35.599 with consumers. 1:44:35.680 --> 1:44:36.920 It's their way or it's no way. 1:44:37.000 --> 1:44:40.040 So we are working to get that back and I 1:44:40.080 --> 1:44:41.240 think we'll be there pretty soon. 1:44:41.400 --> 1:44:46.160 Okay, Peter Adderton, founder and CEO of mobile X. The 1:44:46.200 --> 1:44:50.360 website mymobilex dot com if you want to check it out, 1:44:50.560 --> 1:44:51.920 Thanks so much for joining me today. 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:53.320 Absolute pleasure. 1:44:54.040 --> 1:44:57.000 All right, coming up, we've got the feedback segment. I 1:44:57.040 --> 1:44:59.160 still need to tell you my pizza story. I'll tell 1:44:59.200 --> 1:45:02.599 you about Google and uh, anything else I can squeeze 1:45:02.600 --> 1:45:05.080 in before the end of the show. Rich on Tech 1:45:05.120 --> 1:45:07.639 dot tv is the website. If you want more information 1:45:07.680 --> 1:45:10.920 on my mooble x. You are listening to rich on Tech. 1:45:20.120 --> 1:45:34.720 Collation Relation. 1:45:39.640 --> 1:45:44.360 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here closing 1:45:44.400 --> 1:45:50.120 out the show with our AI generated song So weird 1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:52.599 but kind of cool. All right, I got a lot 1:45:52.640 --> 1:45:55.080 to get to, so let me just start right away here. 1:45:55.920 --> 1:45:59.960 First off, I've been using a new app called Boy 1:46:01.160 --> 1:46:05.760 and it is incredible. I highly suggest you go to 1:46:05.880 --> 1:46:09.360 Voice Nototes dot com and check it out. This is 1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:13.080 an AI powered note taking app. So what do you do? 1:46:13.280 --> 1:46:17.639 Anytime you have a thought? You record your voice into 1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:22.160 the app and it will then transcribe it and it 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:25.920 will come up with a witty title for it. And 1:46:25.960 --> 1:46:28.479 then the magic of this entire system is that it 1:46:28.520 --> 1:46:30.920 puts everything that you say on a timeline. But wait, 1:46:30.960 --> 1:46:34.320 there's more. You can also search anything that you've ever 1:46:34.479 --> 1:46:38.519 said and it's all transcribed things to AI and you 1:46:38.560 --> 1:46:41.920 can ask. It becomes your own personal chat GBT. So 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.600 if you one time said that you liked a restaurant 1:46:44.640 --> 1:46:47.200 in this little city when you were in some travel place. 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:49.640 You can ask your AI what was that restaurant I 1:46:49.720 --> 1:46:51.920 liked in Rome, and it would come up with the answer. 1:46:52.439 --> 1:46:55.040 It is absolutely incredible. I played with this for about 1:46:55.040 --> 1:46:59.840 fifteen minutes before I paid for the lifetime subscription, and 1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:03.280 I don't know if that's still available, but it's it's 1:47:03.439 --> 1:47:06.680 you can use it for free, and there are some limitations, 1:47:06.720 --> 1:47:09.080 but I'm telling you check this out. It is called 1:47:09.200 --> 1:47:12.760 voicenoes dot com right now, it's a web app. They 1:47:12.840 --> 1:47:16.200 will have apps for iOS and Android coming soon. It 1:47:16.280 --> 1:47:18.720 comes from the same people who make that buy Me 1:47:18.760 --> 1:47:22.720 a Coffee and also biolink, so it comes from a 1:47:22.720 --> 1:47:25.920 good team that that does some cool stuff. So voice 1:47:26.040 --> 1:47:32.920 notoes dot com. Let's see Tesla yesterday slashed the price 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:35.200 of their full self driving software. It used to be 1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:36.960 one hundred two hundred dollars a month. Now it's one 1:47:37.000 --> 1:47:39.320 hundred dollars a month. So in the name of you, 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:42.240 I subscribed and tried it out. I drove to the 1:47:42.240 --> 1:47:44.719 show today, or had the car drive to the show, 1:47:45.240 --> 1:47:47.920 and I will tell you it's scary as can I 1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:51.439 say hell on this show, it's scary as hell. That's 1:47:52.280 --> 1:47:57.800 oh my god, Oh my gosh. I'm not kidding, I'm 1:47:58.000 --> 1:48:03.040 I I this should free the pain and my heart 1:48:03.120 --> 1:48:08.320 rate during this drive to the show was intense. My 1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:10.920 car missed the turn onto the freeway ramp. It tried 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:14.360 to turn from a non dedicated turn lane. It had 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:17.640 erratic behavior. A driver actually honked at me as he 1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:19.679 went past me because they were like, what the heck 1:48:19.800 --> 1:48:23.479 is this car doing? It stopped. It fully stopped at 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:25.599 a crosswalk when it wasn't supposed to. It's like one 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:28.439 of those crosswalks that like, you know, people might cross that, 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:31.080 but there's no one in it. It tried to go 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:35.080 through a blinking left turn signal. It went right through 1:48:35.080 --> 1:48:37.639 the meter light on the freeway. Here in California, you've 1:48:37.640 --> 1:48:39.720 got these little red light green lights that let you 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:42.240 onto the freeway at a certain point, and it just 1:48:42.400 --> 1:48:45.880 blasted right through that didn't even stop for that one. 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:49.000 I had to disengage the autopilot when another car cut 1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:53.880 me off. It just it was all over the place. 1:48:54.080 --> 1:48:58.200 I tried it twice this morning, and it's amazing. I 1:48:58.240 --> 1:49:02.200 think if if you're maybe on very simple streets, but 1:49:02.439 --> 1:49:06.120 on complicated city streets like Los Angeles, it's it's more 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:10.080 work to monitor this system and to react or to 1:49:10.120 --> 1:49:12.680 be ready to react than it is to just drive yourself. 1:49:13.120 --> 1:49:17.160 So until we are in that complete full self driving autonomy, 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:19.960 this is not ready for prime time. I don't think 1:49:19.960 --> 1:49:22.280 it's even worth the one hundred dollars a month based 1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:26.000 on the headaches and the stress that it will cause you, 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:29.840 so to be continued on that. I will continue to 1:49:29.840 --> 1:49:31.880 test it for the month. My kids were like, can 1:49:31.880 --> 1:49:34.000 I take a ride? I said no, I value your life, 1:49:34.439 --> 1:49:38.559 like not right now, I'm It's just it's a lot. 1:49:40.040 --> 1:49:43.880 Google's Magic Tools Magic editing tools are coming to all 1:49:43.920 --> 1:49:46.840 devices for free, so it used to be something you 1:49:46.840 --> 1:49:50.240 can only get on Pixels or if you paid. Now 1:49:50.520 --> 1:49:54.360 their AI powered Magic Editor tool will be available for 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:59.559 free on Android, iOS, Android and iOS device is starting 1:49:59.600 --> 1:50:03.559 May fifteenth, so if you download Google Photos on those 1:50:03.560 --> 1:50:06.320 devices you can use the Magic Editor, which is pretty cool. 1:50:06.640 --> 1:50:09.679 You're only gonna get ten free edits a month. Pixel 1:50:09.760 --> 1:50:12.320 users will still get unlimited access, and of course, if 1:50:12.320 --> 1:50:14.760 you have a non Pixel device, you can subscribe to 1:50:14.800 --> 1:50:18.240 a Google one plan to get to get that as well. 1:50:18.240 --> 1:50:20.479 It has to be a two terabyte storage plan, which 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:24.240 is what I'm on. But pretty cool Google's under a 1:50:24.240 --> 1:50:27.360 lot of stress right now between all of these other 1:50:28.120 --> 1:50:30.519 AI photo editing apps, so they got to do something 1:50:30.560 --> 1:50:33.280 because they want theirs to be prominent. And also in 1:50:33.360 --> 1:50:37.200 other Google news, you know that Apple has air tags. 1:50:37.600 --> 1:50:40.400 Now Google is launching what they call the Find my 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:45.200 Device Network. This uses over a billion Android devices to 1:50:45.280 --> 1:50:49.960 locate lost phones, tablets, headphones, and third party tags. So 1:50:50.160 --> 1:50:52.200 just like an air tag, there will now be tags 1:50:52.240 --> 1:50:55.200 that you can use your Android phone to find. And 1:50:55.800 --> 1:50:58.000 this is gonna be great. If you have an Android phone, 1:50:58.560 --> 1:51:00.160 you'll be able to find these things you'll have on 1:51:00.240 --> 1:51:06.800 your keys, on your bigger suitcases, whatever luggage. Pixelate and 1:51:06.800 --> 1:51:09.000 pixel eight pro even have this cool feature where they 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:11.280 can be found when they're powered off or have a 1:51:11.320 --> 1:51:15.360 dead battery. What kind of witchcraft is that you can 1:51:15.400 --> 1:51:18.200 find something with a dead battery. There's got to be 1:51:18.240 --> 1:51:20.320 some sort of battery in there, right, like a small 1:51:20.360 --> 1:51:24.000 backup battery. Come on, Chippolo is sending me one of 1:51:24.040 --> 1:51:26.120 their tags to test out. There's gonna be a bunch 1:51:26.120 --> 1:51:30.160 of these on the market. Sony JBL headphones are gonna 1:51:30.240 --> 1:51:33.600 update them to support this Find my Device. There is 1:51:33.640 --> 1:51:36.680 an app that you can download right now it is 1:51:36.800 --> 1:51:42.160 called find my Devices. I think it's see it's called 1:51:42.240 --> 1:51:47.880 find my Device app and make sure it's signed by 1:51:47.920 --> 1:51:52.000 Google LLC. Nothing else. There are some fake apps out there, 1:51:52.040 --> 1:51:54.920 so it says Google LLC. If that's not the developer, 1:51:55.320 --> 1:51:57.519 do not get it. All right, let's get to some 1:51:57.560 --> 1:52:02.400 feedback here, Rich, you blew it. On your last radio show. 1:52:02.680 --> 1:52:05.200 You talked about swiping your phone's shutter button to take 1:52:05.280 --> 1:52:09.280 multiple photos at month at once. Then you stated you 1:52:09.320 --> 1:52:11.599 swipe right to take multiple photos, but you have failed 1:52:11.600 --> 1:52:15.000 to mention whether you turn the phone clockwise or counterclockwise. Well, 1:52:15.080 --> 1:52:18.280 to me, I always turn my phone with the charging 1:52:18.320 --> 1:52:21.439 port when it's horizontal to the right. That's just the 1:52:21.479 --> 1:52:24.240 way I think is the standard way. So yes, on Samsung, 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:27.280 you would take your photo shutter button and you would 1:52:27.280 --> 1:52:29.160 pull it to the right. On iPhone you would pull 1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:33.400 it down. That's with your power plug facing to the right. 1:52:34.640 --> 1:52:37.439 Travis says, hey, Rich, the workaround for watching Apple TV 1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:39.920 on an Android phone or tablet is to use a 1:52:39.960 --> 1:52:42.559 browser like Chrome and log into your Apple TV account 1:52:42.600 --> 1:52:46.599 and cast away. There you go, Travis, thank you, Oh 1:52:46.680 --> 1:52:50.479 I didn't mention New Weekend show. 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