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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV. We've got some great guests
Speaker 1: this week. Dave Malcoff, personal friend of mine and CBS
Speaker 1: News reporter. We'll talk about reporting on the Total Eclipse
Speaker 1: and his first hand experience. We've got Belkin CEO Stephen
Speaker 1: Maloney on innovation careers and sustainability in the tech space.
Speaker 1: Plus mobile X founder and CEO Peter Adderton. We'll discuss
Speaker 1: how the company is disrupting the wireless carrier space with AI.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Last week I spent the week in Hawaii on a
Speaker 1: much needed family vacation. It was amazing. The whole point
Speaker 1: was to bring my mom. She had never been to
Speaker 1: an island and it was her dream to go to
Speaker 1: an island. And so I said, you know what, We're
Speaker 1: going to Hawaii. And we actually had this trip planned
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. But on the way out,
Speaker 1: and I know my mom's going to be embarrassed for
Speaker 1: me telling this story, she actually tripped over her suitcase
Speaker 1: on the way to get to the airport. So she
Speaker 1: had her suitcase in the hallway at her place and
Speaker 1: she just didn't remember that it was there. She tripped
Speaker 1: and got pretty pretty banged up, and so she could
Speaker 1: not go on the trip three years ago. So we
Speaker 1: redid the trip, brought her this time. We said do
Speaker 1: not put your suitcase in a main area, and she didn't.
Speaker 1: She made it. It was great. We had a fantastic time.
Speaker 1: I tell you that because I had You know, whenever
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, I do try to disconnect but of
Speaker 1: course I have lots of thoughts in the process. So
Speaker 1: I did wear the vision Pro on the plane out there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was weird, just as weird as you
Speaker 1: might imagine. It was cool, and you know, putting it
Speaker 1: on was the weirdest part. Thankfully, we had the whole
Speaker 1: row to ourselves, between my whole family, and so it
Speaker 1: wasn't that strange to put it on next to a stranger.
Speaker 1: But once you get it on, you have to make
Speaker 1: sure that it's in this travel mode. Otherwise everything's going
Speaker 1: to be flying past you. Because it senses the movement.
Speaker 1: It feels like you are moving, so all the stuff
Speaker 1: inside is moving. Now. Thankfully Apple is smart enough to
Speaker 1: build in some software that figures out when you're on
Speaker 1: a plane, because it only moved for about a second
Speaker 1: before I said, hold on, do you want us to
Speaker 1: put this thing into travel? And I said yes, please.
Speaker 1: So I watched a TV show. Now, whatever I tried
Speaker 1: to download on Max did not work, so I was
Speaker 1: relegated to my apples Apple TV Plus show. I forget
Speaker 1: what the name of it was, Royal Palms or something,
Speaker 1: and it looked great. And the cool thing was I
Speaker 1: discovered you can actually decide where you want to sit
Speaker 1: in the movie theater when you're watching a show, so
Speaker 1: it had you can sit close up to the screen
Speaker 1: in the middle, in the back, or up on the balcony,
Speaker 1: and then you can say I want to sit left
Speaker 1: or right. So that was kind of cool and the
Speaker 1: show looked great and it really did take me off
Speaker 1: the plane and kind of into my own world. So
Speaker 1: no matter what seat you're in, whether it's a big
Speaker 1: seat a small seat, anyone's around you, you really don't notice.
Speaker 1: The other thing is I tried the in flight Wi
Speaker 1: Fi so Southwest that's what I flew on. They have
Speaker 1: just like you know, movies and TV shows that you
Speaker 1: can stream through their Wi Fi without paying, And I
Speaker 1: was like, huh, I wonder if that works inside like
Speaker 1: the web browser, And sure enough it did. The only
Speaker 1: thing I noticed with the Southwest WiFi was a it
Speaker 1: was very very slow. I was even able to do
Speaker 1: my email on the way back. On the way there,
Speaker 1: I didn't connect. On the way back, I did, and
Speaker 1: it was so slow I had to stop using it.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is that you can't swap devices.
Speaker 1: So I started on my computer and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have my phone connected and I
Speaker 1: couldn't swap devices otherwise. Kind of interesting experience. Now, the
Speaker 1: bigger revelation I had when I was in Hawaii is
Speaker 1: that we are all contributing to job automation. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you what my thesis is. If you don't bring
Speaker 1: something uniquely human to your job, you are going to
Speaker 1: be automated out of your job. Let me say that again,
Speaker 1: If you don't bring something uniquely human to your job,
Speaker 1: you are going to be automated out of a job.
Speaker 1: Let me explain for starters. I tagged my own bag
Speaker 1: at the airport. I have never done this before, but
Speaker 1: you get to the airport typically now we are all
Speaker 1: checking in on those kiosks. Well, now the second step
Speaker 1: is it spits out a bag tag. So I am
Speaker 1: there as a flight attendant or whatever you call the
Speaker 1: people at the you know, helping you there, tagging my
Speaker 1: own bags like I'm literally an airline employee. Now how
Speaker 1: do I know how to tag a bag? And it
Speaker 1: took me a little bit, but I figured out you
Speaker 1: kind of take the sticker off, you put it on,
Speaker 1: you get it right. And I had to redo it
Speaker 1: a couple of times. But here I am checking bags
Speaker 1: in to an airline. How would I ever think that
Speaker 1: I would be doing that. But again, there is no
Speaker 1: human element that would make that process better. So it's automated, right.
Speaker 1: It's like clearly with all these bags that people are
Speaker 1: checking in themselves, it all sort of works out. So
Speaker 1: that's automated. On the plane, the flight attendants were so
Speaker 1: kind and so nice. They decorated the whole plane. We
Speaker 1: flow out on Easter. They decorated the whole plane with
Speaker 1: Easter eggs. They gave us candy, they gave us snacks,
Speaker 1: They were talking to the kids. They were so nice.
Speaker 1: My mom, who had never flown Southwest, said they are
Speaker 1: such a nice airline. They are so friendly, and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what will keep those people's jobs. Now, the pilot
Speaker 1: of the plane, I know nothing against the plight. They
Speaker 1: got us there safely. But I will tell you there
Speaker 1: are some pilots that sort of describe the flying process
Speaker 1: to you and some that just fly. The ones that
Speaker 1: just fly probably going to be automated at some point.
Speaker 1: The ones that are kind and say, hey, look we're
Speaker 1: flying over the Grand Canyon. Take a look outside the
Speaker 1: right of your plane, they will always be there because
Speaker 1: they bring something uniquely human to the experience. What are humans?
Speaker 1: What do we want? We want connection, We want a smile.
Speaker 1: Bobo every week comes to this show with a smile
Speaker 1: on his face and an attitude that you can't get
Speaker 1: from a computer. He will always have a job. There
Speaker 1: are some people at your work that are always saying,
Speaker 1: TGI Friday, Thank God it's Friday. On Monday, they're talking
Speaker 1: about looking forward to the weekend. They're wearing a shirt
Speaker 1: that says is it Friday?
Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 1: These are the kind of things that will be automated
Speaker 1: in the future, and we're all contributing to it because
Speaker 1: we're already doing this. Okay, we went to a restaurant.
Speaker 1: We went to a restaurant and the waiter comes up.
Speaker 1: The waiter is not nice, and they don't write down
Speaker 1: our order. Now I have a little pet peeve about
Speaker 1: waiters not writing down orders because I order my things
Speaker 1: very specifically. I want egg whites, I want them well done,
Speaker 1: I want this, then that whatever. So when someone doesn't
Speaker 1: write it down nine times out of ten, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be wrong when it comes to your table. So here's
Speaker 1: the difference. Why would I not want to order on
Speaker 1: an iPad. Now we're talking breakfast at a fast casual place.
Speaker 1: We're not talking a fancy dinner here, but breakfast. Why
Speaker 1: would I not want to order my breakfast off a
Speaker 1: tablet right when I get to the table because I
Speaker 1: want my breakfast fast, I'm ready to eat, I want
Speaker 1: my coffee. I don't need to wait ten minutes for
Speaker 1: a waiter to show up. I don't need to wait
Speaker 1: for someone to be rude to me at nine am
Speaker 1: when I'm just waking up. So what's the benefit there
Speaker 1: is none. You literally just need your order in and
Speaker 1: someone to run you your food. And we're already seeing
Speaker 1: robots running orders at restaurants. I was at a CPK
Speaker 1: where the robot came to my table with our order. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's already happening. And again, as humans, if we don't
Speaker 1: mind that part of the experience, we are automating these
Speaker 1: jobs out of existence. Now again, when we were at
Speaker 1: a restaurant our final night there, we went to this
Speaker 1: amazing restaurant sort of like Japan meets Italy meets meets Hawaii.
Speaker 1: It was a great chef, brand new place, and the
Speaker 1: waiter was fantastic. What do we talk about the entire
Speaker 1: night was how great the waiter was. That waiter will
Speaker 1: always have a job. You see where I'm getting at here,
Speaker 1: touch screen systems. We were at McDonald's. We ordered on
Speaker 1: touch screen. We didn't need someone to take our order there.
Speaker 1: We just wanted to. And the kids love it, the
Speaker 1: digital natives as they call it, my kids, they grew
Speaker 1: up with this technology. No problem there. That job is
Speaker 1: already being automated out of existence. The order taker at McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Some McDonald's had been to you can't even order from
Speaker 1: a human being. It's already gone. Ah, what else? What else?
Speaker 1: What else? Oh? Other examples Peloton Right, took a Peloton
Speaker 1: ride this morning. What makes me want to take a
Speaker 1: Peloton ride versus some automated ride that I can get
Speaker 1: from a multitude of apps on my phone. The instructor.
Speaker 1: The magic of Peloton has always been the personality of
Speaker 1: the instructors, and they know it. People tune in for
Speaker 1: their favorite Peloton instructors. They will always have a job.
Speaker 1: There are millions of people out there working jobs right
Speaker 1: now that bring nothing to the table except being a human.
Speaker 1: You have to add something that's human for your job
Speaker 1: to not go away. DJs on a radio station. Some
Speaker 1: people love their favorite DJ. This goes for news anchors too.
Speaker 1: You can get your news read by an automated voice today.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to tune into this show. You
Speaker 1: can literally have the top ten techt stories read to
Speaker 1: you by a synthesized voice right now. What makes this
Speaker 1: different Listening for what I bring to the show, Listening
Speaker 1: to what your favorite DJ has to say, Listening for
Speaker 1: that human connection, that human experience. One more example. The
Speaker 1: house keep her at our hotel so kind. We built
Speaker 1: a relationship with this woman, unlike any relationship we've had
Speaker 1: with the housekeeper. By the end of the trip, not
Speaker 1: only was she getting a bigger and bigger tip every
Speaker 1: single day, she knew our kids' names, she was leaving,
Speaker 1: she was decorating our room. She was leaving notes for
Speaker 1: my children. Every time we saw her in the hallway,
Speaker 1: she'd say hello to my kids by name my mom.
Speaker 1: She knew when we were leaving, what we were doing,
Speaker 1: She asked where we went. She gave us first DIBs
Speaker 1: on pool toys that someone else left in their room, which, again,
Speaker 1: that is a human experience. That person will always have
Speaker 1: a job the rest of them. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: they're sending a roomba into the room starting, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe are there cleaning robots. Remember Rosie was from the Jetsons. Oh,
Speaker 1: one more example, before we go to break the taxi.
Speaker 1: We got into a taxi. So my wife gives me
Speaker 1: grief sometimes because I do things like the techie way
Speaker 1: all the time, right, And so I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wave down a taxi outside the hotel
Speaker 1: and have the taxi take us toward destination. We do that.
Speaker 1: The taxi driver, as soon as they hear my destination
Speaker 1: starts complaining about how short of a distance it is,
Speaker 1: and he's not happy to take us in that short distance.
Speaker 1: And my kids are sitting there and they understand the tension,
Speaker 1: and my mom and we're all just sitting there like,
Speaker 1: is this our fault that we're only going, you know,
Speaker 1: ten minutes away and not to the airport or whatever.
Speaker 1: And he's grumbling and grumbling and grumbling, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there thinking, this is why WEIMO is gonna take over.
Speaker 1: This is why I'd rather be in an uber where
Speaker 1: I call the car from my phone. I can pay
Speaker 1: for my phone, and with an Uber or a way
Speaker 1: moo you can set you know, do you want to talk?
Speaker 1: Do you not want to talk again? If you bring
Speaker 1: that human existence. I've had taxi drivers or uber drivers
Speaker 1: that are so good you don't want the ride to
Speaker 1: end because they're entertaining, they're fun. They bring something to
Speaker 1: the experience, bring something to the experience, and you will
Speaker 1: always have a job. Eight eight eight rich one oh
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Speaker 1: zero one. So much to get to today's show. So
Speaker 1: glad you're with me. You are listening to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking
Speaker 1: technology with you at triple eight rich one oh one.
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Speaker 1: Website for the show rich on Tech dot tv feedback
Speaker 1: is open. So if you want to comment on my
Speaker 1: new thesis about how we're all automating jobs out of
Speaker 1: existence and how you can keep yours, let me know.
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Speaker 1: Website and hit contact and I will hopefully get to
Speaker 1: it on the show. Sounds like Chuck and Pasadena has
Speaker 1: a comment on what I was just talking about. Chuck,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me Rich. Yeah, it was a fun experience.
Speaker 5: I went to that restaurant in Pasadena that where the
Speaker 5: robot makes the hamburger and fries.
Speaker 1: Oh Flippy, this is Flippy the robot. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: I did a story on this a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: But now they've got a restaurant that actually you can
Speaker 1: go in and order.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on Green Streams called Cali Express by Flippy.
Speaker 5: It's right on the corner, and it's pretty cool. It's
Speaker 5: a museum like experience where you walk in and yes,
Speaker 5: the food is awesome and interesting, but everybody goes there
Speaker 5: to see the robot make the cheeseburgers and the fries,
Speaker 5: and you know, while people are waiting there taking videos
Speaker 5: and pictures, and it's kind of a real fun experience.
Speaker 5: In the bonuses, the food is fantastic. You wouldn't think
Speaker 5: a cheeseburger or fries would be any better than you've
Speaker 5: ever had, but they're cooked at perfection. And I actually
Speaker 5: left the restaurant walk back and asked the guy the
Speaker 5: lone employee work, and they're why it's so good, and
Speaker 5: he chalks it up to AI and the fact that
Speaker 5: they've really got to dialed into how long to cook
Speaker 5: it and what temperature?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 1: And so do you think that this will become a
Speaker 1: trend where robots will be doing more of the cooking.
Speaker 1: I know we see at Chipotle they are experimenting with
Speaker 1: They have like a guacamole making robot, and I think
Speaker 1: they have a chip robot as well. And then I
Speaker 1: know Sweet Green is also experimenting. They have a location
Speaker 1: in Orange County, California for the non California listeners that
Speaker 1: makes these salads automated. So you know, Sweet Green is
Speaker 1: a salad place with a bunch of different mix ins
Speaker 1: and stuff, so you just choose what you want and
Speaker 1: the robot makes it. Do you think we're going to
Speaker 1: see this as a trend? Did you mind not having
Speaker 1: the human connection?
Speaker 5: No, That's why I winter was to see how well
Speaker 5: it worked. And I felt like you discussed you know,
Speaker 5: when I'm going into order my breakfast or have somebody
Speaker 5: glare at me because I'm not ordering enough or taking
Speaker 5: too long, or I'm there too early or too late.
Speaker 5: I don't need that. So I've always wondered why they
Speaker 5: can't have a And that's no offense the people, but
Speaker 5: you know, people slapping together a big mac you know,
Speaker 5: I've always wondered why that process in the back can't
Speaker 5: be automated, and now we know that it can. And
Speaker 5: you know, I think down the road will look back
Speaker 5: if somebody listens to the podcast many months or years
Speaker 5: from little wonder why we were so amazed. So I
Speaker 5: kind of wanted to see it while it's new and fresh,
Speaker 5: and I encourage anybody to go there and just at
Speaker 5: least check it out.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I remember when I went there, it
Speaker 1: was pretty rough around the edges. They were just I mean,
Speaker 1: it was first day, but it was pretty cool, and
Speaker 1: it just goes to show that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I think White Castle is also using Flippy in their
Speaker 1: process as well. And right now it's much more I'm
Speaker 1: seeing like a combination of humans and robots working together.
Speaker 1: But you can be guaranteed in the future it will
Speaker 1: be much more robots. Especially these companies, you know, they
Speaker 1: want to make money and they want to make more money,
Speaker 1: and so they're going to do everything they can to
Speaker 1: squeeze as much out of their profits as possible. So Chuck,
Speaker 1: thanks for the report from Pasadena. I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. Roku reports that the
Speaker 1: hack we talked about a couple of weeks ago is
Speaker 1: worse than they thought. So initially they said it was
Speaker 1: about fifteen thousand compromised accounts. Now they're saying five hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy six thousand user accounts were impacted, and so
Speaker 1: they've sent emails to a bunch of Roku users. You
Speaker 1: might have gotten one. The attack used the credential stuffing technique.
Speaker 1: This is where hackers find reused logins and passwords online
Speaker 1: and they just try those at roku dot com and
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases it worked. So Roku says
Speaker 1: in less than four hundred cases they made out with
Speaker 1: unauthorized purchases of streaming service subscriptions. We talked about that.
Speaker 1: And also they bought Roku hardware products using the stored
Speaker 1: payment methods. I did not know that aspect, so they
Speaker 1: bought like other Roku devices. So Roku has reset passwords
Speaker 1: for the impacted accounts. They've notified effective affected customers with email,
Speaker 1: and they will be implementing two factor authentication for all accounts.
Speaker 1: They should have done that from the beginning. If you
Speaker 1: don't have two factor enabled on your accounts, enable it.
Speaker 1: They said that the hackers did not get the credit
Speaker 1: card numbers, so they did not get those or complete
Speaker 1: payment details. But again this is still evolving. Or initially
Speaker 1: they said fifteen thousand compromise, now they're saying five hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy six thousand, and Roku has millions upon millions
Speaker 1: of users. So my advice the next time you log
Speaker 1: into Roku, make sure you use a strong, unique password
Speaker 1: that you generate just for that website, and definitely consider
Speaker 1: using a password manager. It can really help in instances
Speaker 1: like this. Eight a eight rich one oh one eight
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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk Eclipse. I know what's happened.
Speaker 1: Dave Malkoff, CBS News reporter was there. He's going to
Speaker 1: talk about his experience and I'll tell you the impact
Speaker 1: the eclipse had on Internet traffic. It's all coming up
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Speaker 1: this past week was the total solar eclipse. I did
Speaker 1: miss it, unfortunately. I know I talked it up. I
Speaker 1: know I said I wanted to go. It just wasn't realistic.
Speaker 1: I was flying back from Hawaii the day before and
Speaker 1: it was really a tight turn to get anywhere to
Speaker 1: see this thing. But it did have an impact on
Speaker 1: Internet traffic nationwide and really a lot of reports from
Speaker 1: cloud flare. This was on April eighth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Traffic dropped in the US by eight percent and twelve
Speaker 1: percent at the peak of the eclipse compared to the
Speaker 1: previous week. States in the path of totality like Vermont, Arkansas, Indiana, Maine,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and Ohio experienced traffic drops of forty percent
Speaker 1: or more. What does this all tell us if there's
Speaker 1: something cool happening outside. We are ready to ditch our
Speaker 1: keyboards and go check it out. And I hope you
Speaker 1: did that without ruining your eyes. Now, someone who was there,
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, CBS News National correspondent Dave Malkoff. Dave,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Well thanks for having me Rich.
Speaker 8: This is the new sub segment called two TV News
Speaker 8: Geeks Geek out of had TV News Gear.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna call you a geek.
Speaker 1: I figured you'd be okay with that. You are geekier
Speaker 1: than I am. In fact, you're the person that made
Speaker 1: me I'll never forget. We were both working at k
Speaker 1: CAL nine and you showed me like you did like
Speaker 1: a what's in my bag? Before that was like a
Speaker 1: thing on YouTube, and you're you're showing me all this
Speaker 1: cool gear that you carry around. You're like, I can
Speaker 1: go live from anywhere with all of this. And ever
Speaker 1: since that day, my backpack has been triply heavy because
Speaker 1: I carry so much stuff in my bag because of you,
Speaker 1: Dave Malcoff, I have cursed you with the curse.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's it's it.
Speaker 8: And the funny thing is how that bag just changes
Speaker 8: over the years as the technology gets better, but I
Speaker 8: don't think anything gets lighter though. I think it's just
Speaker 8: as heavy as it was before, because as we swap
Speaker 8: out things, we swap in morse things that because of
Speaker 8: the technology that is available today that wasn't available, you know,
Speaker 8: fifteen years ago or so exactly.
Speaker 1: So true. Yeah, my bag has not gotten lighter, even
Speaker 1: though the gadgets have gotten smaller. I just carry more
Speaker 1: of them. So where were you for the total?
Speaker 8: I was in downtown Cleveland, and we're right between the
Speaker 8: Rock Hall of Fame. If you've ever been to downtown Cleveland,
Speaker 8: I grew up there. And then we're right between the
Speaker 8: Rock Hall of Fame and then there's the Science Center,
Speaker 8: the Great Like Science Center, which also has the John
Speaker 8: Glenn NASA Visitor Center that's now inside the Science Center,
Speaker 8: and then there's a Brown.
Speaker 2: Stadium that's right there.
Speaker 8: So I was right in front of the Glenn Visitor Center.
Speaker 2: With an astronaut.
Speaker 8: And so Steve Bowen has been to the International Space
Speaker 8: Station four times. He built it and then he got
Speaker 8: to live in it, so he went three times on
Speaker 8: Shuttle missions.
Speaker 1: This guy's been to space four times. That is a
Speaker 1: brave man that is a really My kids were asking me, like, Dad,
Speaker 1: if you got the opportunity, would you go to space?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if it was on a rope maybe,
Speaker 1: like if it was guaranteed, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: go on that at that little car from uh, you
Speaker 1: know whatever those things are in like Palm Springs, you
Speaker 1: know that like little cable car thing.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, yeah, you don't want to go on that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go on that. How am I
Speaker 1: going to go to the Moon or Mars? Oh my gosh, Okay,
Speaker 1: So what was this scene like? Was it just wild?
Speaker 1: And described to me? The experience?
Speaker 8: So the experience is really cool because I think I
Speaker 8: think for a couple of reasons, we spend a lot
Speaker 8: of time looking at our phones and kind of delving
Speaker 8: into not only our own personal bubble, but maybe like
Speaker 8: a political bubble that you're in and you don't really
Speaker 8: interact with people outside of those bubbles. But something celestial
Speaker 8: like this happening in our solar system that's maybe a
Speaker 8: once in a lifetime chance, maybe twice in a lifetime
Speaker 8: for anybody who lives long enough to see this. Uh,
Speaker 8: We're all just part of one big thing, and I
Speaker 8: think you rarely get that, maybe at a concert or something,
Speaker 8: but when when you're looking up at the star in
Speaker 8: the middle of our solar system and marveling at this
Speaker 8: weird coincidence where we have a moon and a Sun
Speaker 8: that appear to be the same size because of the
Speaker 8: distance between them, the Sun being four hundred times larger
Speaker 8: than the moon, but the moon being four hundred times
Speaker 8: closer to us. So when they move over each other,
Speaker 8: they cancel each other out except for the corona that's
Speaker 8: around that. And I'm telling you Rich, it is breathtaking
Speaker 8: to witness this and to see your sun at the
Speaker 8: middle of your solar system turn off for almost four minutes,
Speaker 8: and to see the corona and to see the the
Speaker 8: projections coming off of it where we could actually if
Speaker 8: you if you watch the full four minutes or three
Speaker 8: minutes forty nine seconds I think it was, you can
Speaker 8: see one of these from the side of the Sun
Speaker 8: just becoming a big loop because of the Sun's magnetic
Speaker 8: atmosphere that has in it called the corona. You can
Speaker 8: see this happen right in front of your eyes, and
Speaker 8: it's something you never get to see, and we all
Speaker 8: experienced it together, maybe like thirty thousand people. They were
Speaker 8: saying in Cleveland and then all over these areas that
Speaker 8: weren't supposed to get totality, but they did.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing. Oh so some places were a little
Speaker 1: surprised they still got it. Interesting, I mean, it's really
Speaker 1: it's all math. I mean, that's that's another thing, like
Speaker 1: the fact that we can figure these out and when
Speaker 1: they're going to happen with such precision is also just
Speaker 1: miraculous in itself. It's not like we've ever measured the
Speaker 1: distance between here and the sun or the moon. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they have in some weird way.
Speaker 2: Ninety three million miles.
Speaker 1: Dave, you know too much right off the top of
Speaker 1: my head too.
Speaker 2: I didn't even look that up.
Speaker 1: This was your second one though, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's and and ritual attests to this.
Speaker 8: There are weird things that happened to you when you're
Speaker 8: a TV news reporter that would never happen to you
Speaker 8: in real life. It's almost like we lived like the
Speaker 8: life of a superhero. And and and we're we're in
Speaker 8: disguise when we're just home with our family. But the
Speaker 8: first one, I was on a cruise ship with Bonnie
Speaker 8: Tyler who sings.
Speaker 2: Totally clips of the Heart.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: And she was singing it to me on the ship
Speaker 8: during a live shot and we were singing it together
Speaker 8: and uh. And then she went downstairs to a to
Speaker 8: a stage that these huge cruise ships are huge, so
Speaker 8: they've they've got a stage down there. And she happened
Speaker 8: to be with Joe Jonas of the Joe bren Jonas
Speaker 8: Brothers and and a d Nce and she was singing
Speaker 8: total eclips of the Heart to the rest of the
Speaker 8: ship right before totality happened. And and we all saw
Speaker 8: it together right there because it went from last time,
Speaker 8: it went from Oregon to South Carolina. If each draw
Speaker 8: the line in your head and then pops off the
Speaker 8: coast and then the meteorologist on board was able to
Speaker 8: tell the captain where to steer the ship to get
Speaker 8: not only into the path of totality but also outside
Speaker 8: of the clouds.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, that's always an issue, the cloud cover.
Speaker 1: So when's the next one and are you planning already?
Speaker 8: Well, there is one in twenty twenty six, but you
Speaker 8: have to go to Iceland and there you could you
Speaker 8: can maybe see it in Raykovic. But but I think
Speaker 8: you only get like less than a minute of totality.
Speaker 8: But if you go up to and I'm gonna mess
Speaker 8: this up, Icelandic people are gonna are all.
Speaker 1: The people listening are really going to send me the
Speaker 1: angry emails.
Speaker 8: This Schnellfousness Peninsula, and I don't I don't know, you
Speaker 8: definitely didn't say that right. But I've been up there
Speaker 8: and there's this thing called Arnistappi. That's that's uh, that's
Speaker 8: this really cool uh hotel.
Speaker 2: And kind of village up there.
Speaker 8: But it's but it's far enough west on a peninsula
Speaker 8: that it's different than in in Reykivik, where you would
Speaker 8: only get a few, like a minute or so of totality.
Speaker 8: I think you get two minutes in in Arni Stuffy.
Speaker 8: I did look at the stopy cottages up there.
Speaker 2: Sold out.
Speaker 8: Now nobody can nobody can get a seat there. But
Speaker 8: but but I think you could rent a van or something.
Speaker 8: Maybe you could drive up there.
Speaker 1: There's also one in twenty twenty seven in Egypt, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be the longest duration six minutes twenty
Speaker 1: three seconds August second, twenty twenty seven. So I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you know, ideas for this Dave before we go,
Speaker 1: I want to I know you're, like you said, a
Speaker 1: geek self prescribed. Do you have any like apps that
Speaker 1: you love or anything you want to recommend that folks
Speaker 1: should check out.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, there's a there's a few of them that
Speaker 8: I use all the time, and one of them is
Speaker 8: flight Radar twenty four. So I love looking at that
Speaker 8: because I'm kind of an aviation geek and I like looking.
Speaker 2: At where the planes are.
Speaker 8: And if you look at this radar, if you look
Speaker 8: at this flight Radar twenty four, if you see a
Speaker 8: plane flying.
Speaker 2: Above you, you can.
Speaker 8: See in real time where that plane is going, what
Speaker 8: the flight number is, where it came from, even if
Speaker 8: it's private aircraft.
Speaker 2: And you can also go into a view where you see.
Speaker 8: Out the window of the plane and a virtual view,
Speaker 8: and just to imagine how many planes are flying over
Speaker 8: the United States at once.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. And then another one that I use
Speaker 2: all the time is let me just see where is
Speaker 2: that one? Oh yeah, a radar scope.
Speaker 8: So this is live radar because I do a lot
Speaker 8: of weather and climate coverage and so when I'm driving
Speaker 8: around and I want to see what live radar is happening.
Speaker 8: Ahead of me on the road. I always tuned to
Speaker 8: a radar scope because it actually shows you the live
Speaker 8: radar from the NWS National Weather Service domes that are
Speaker 8: all over the country in different spots that they've got
Speaker 8: Doppler radar sites everywhere.
Speaker 1: Very very cool, Dave, real quick, How can folks find
Speaker 1: you online?
Speaker 8: Well, I am on I am on the thing that
Speaker 8: was formerly known as Twitter, and you can find me
Speaker 8: at Malcoff there and then but I am I guess
Speaker 8: I'm moving more to Instagram. So that's so that's uh,
Speaker 8: Malcoff News on Instagram, Malcoff News on TikTok, and you
Speaker 8: can find me on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Just just look up a Dave Malcoff. I think it's
Speaker 2: Dave News on Facebook.
Speaker 1: All right, Dave Malcoff, National reporter, national correspondent for CBS News,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me. Coming up on the
Speaker 1: show eighty eight rich one one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four two four one zero one. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: about the music. Listen to the music that comes back
Speaker 1: very closely. I'll explain what's going on today. You are
Speaker 1: listening to Rich on tech.
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Speaker 1: The Tech Stream Olive Board. Welcome back to Rich on
Speaker 1: tech Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology
Speaker 1: at Triple eight the Rich one O one. That's eight
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four two four one zero one. So
Speaker 1: if you're wondering what's going on with the music this week,
Speaker 1: it's actually AI generated a new website called udio. Udio
Speaker 1: dot com was developed by former Google DeepMind researchers. It
Speaker 1: uses AI to create songs in less than a minute.
Speaker 1: You can type in the type of song you want,
Speaker 1: you can say if you want lyrics, you can even
Speaker 1: paste in your own lyrics and it will generate the song.
Speaker 1: So I generated a bunch of songs that were tech related,
Speaker 1: some with lyrics, some without. You can say you want
Speaker 1: it to be country or pop or whatever genre you want,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty wild. I mean, look, this is like
Speaker 1: second day, third day of this maybe for the public,
Speaker 1: and it's already pretty darn good. They've got big investors,
Speaker 1: will I am Common the guy who co created Instagram
Speaker 1: also a big investor. And it's free, so yes, it
Speaker 1: will be paid at some point. But right now you
Speaker 1: can log into this and if you are dabbling in
Speaker 1: music or you're curious about the AI music generation. This
Speaker 1: is probably one of the better websites that I've seen
Speaker 1: that does it. So I'll be playing the intro music
Speaker 1: throughout the show with courtesy of AI. And it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a cool thing because it's all unique,
Speaker 1: like that whatever you're hearing has ever been heard in
Speaker 1: the world before. Now, maybe the sound or the way
Speaker 1: it feels you you know, you might recognize, but the
Speaker 1: actual like it's put together on the fly, pretty pretty wild.
Speaker 1: If you want to link to it, Rich on tech
Speaker 1: dot TV hit the light bulb up at the top
Speaker 1: you can get a link to udo udio. Check it out,
Speaker 1: see what you think. Let's go to uh Michelle in Encinitas, California. Michelle,
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich.
Speaker 10: Good morning.
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 1: Good morning? I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for the call. What
Speaker 1: what can I help you with?
Speaker 10: Okay, So, I'm I want to know what How does
Speaker 10: someone become administrator of your email address one that you
Speaker 10: created yourself on your own desktop? I was actually doing
Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure. Well my husband did this, my soon
Speaker 10: to be ex husband, and he made it. He said
Speaker 10: it was just a total accident. It was just a fluke,
Speaker 10: and I thought you can't just becomes just stumbled upon
Speaker 10: something like that, especially when I created it through Outlooks
Speaker 10: and these Gmail And then not only did I create it,
Speaker 10: I had my email and my email as a backup,
Speaker 10: and my phone number as a backup, another email and
Speaker 10: my phone number, and then he has this email and
Speaker 10: his phone number as now the backup and he's still
Speaker 10: administrator of that one, although I don't use it anymore.
Speaker 10: But it's been a battle for six months getting to
Speaker 10: the bottom of how someone can become administrator of someone
Speaker 10: else's email.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds to me that he had the password,
Speaker 1: because that's really the only way you can't take over
Speaker 1: an email. Well, there's a couple of ways you could
Speaker 1: take over if you're you know, if you knew what
Speaker 1: you're doing, But it sound the easiest way is that
Speaker 1: he either gets the password or he knew the password
Speaker 1: and he added himself on the back end and replaced
Speaker 1: those two key pieces of information the backup email, the
Speaker 1: recovery email, and also the phone number for the account.
Speaker 1: So that would mean that it sounds like two factor
Speaker 1: authentication probably wasn't turned on originally with this account, and
Speaker 1: that's why he was able to evade any sort of
Speaker 1: like detection. Now that's just a theory. I think for
Speaker 1: most people, if you are generating a unique password and
Speaker 1: log in for your account, nobody's going to be able
Speaker 1: to take that over, especially if you have two factor authentication.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the hacks that we see are
Speaker 1: reused password. So they're using a password that they've gotten
Speaker 1: from a data dump somewhere online and they pop it
Speaker 1: into Gmail and lo and behold it works. Or they
Speaker 1: trick you into handing over that information, so they will
Speaker 1: present you with a fake login screen and you will
Speaker 1: log in thinking that it's you're logging into Gmail, but
Speaker 1: really you are logging into just a fake website that
Speaker 1: is now capturing your information and then letting the perpetrator
Speaker 1: see that on the back end, and then they go
Speaker 1: in and log in. Now it gets even more elaborate
Speaker 1: if you do have two factor authentication turned on. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they will present you with that fake website, you will
Speaker 1: log in, that code will come to your phone and
Speaker 1: they will literally call you and say, hey, we notice
Speaker 1: you're having trouble logging into your Gmail. We just sent
Speaker 1: you a code, please read us that code, and they
Speaker 1: will type in that code on their end and then
Speaker 1: log into your account, even bypassing that two factor authentication
Speaker 1: that you have set up to protect yourself. So that
Speaker 1: is why on almost every single two factor authentication text
Speaker 1: or email you get, it says do not share this
Speaker 1: with anyone. We will never verbally ask you for this,
Speaker 1: and that is true. So if anyone ever asks you, hey,
Speaker 1: can you give me that two factor code that we
Speaker 1: just texted you, unless you trust them one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes banks will do that as a secondary form
Speaker 1: of authorization. When you call them, they will say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to text you a number. Read us that number.
Speaker 1: But generally, if it's an automated system, nobody's calling you
Speaker 1: for that phone number. But these people are tricky. They
Speaker 1: study this stuff. They study to see what we do
Speaker 1: and how we do it, and they look for the
Speaker 1: holes and they try to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: around it. Soress. My advice, Michelle is to regain that
Speaker 1: account as yours somehow. Either tell him, hey, look, I
Speaker 1: need this account and then go in and either delete
Speaker 1: that account. You said you don't use it, but I
Speaker 1: get rid of it. So that it's not an issue anymore.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call today. Eight eight eight rich one
Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four
Speaker 1: one zero one. Let me tell you this before we
Speaker 1: go to break here. LGTV owners, if you have an LGTV,
Speaker 1: you need to update your firmware. There is a four
Speaker 1: severe vulnerabilities affecting the software of four lg smart TV models.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through all the model numbers
Speaker 1: and things like that, but the point is if you
Speaker 1: have an LGTV, just go ahead, connect it to the
Speaker 1: Wi Fi if you haven't done that, and just update
Speaker 1: the and just make sure that it's up to date.
Speaker 1: And then if you're not using the smart features on it,
Speaker 1: you can disconnect it again. But the vulnerabilities, you know,
Speaker 1: it could be bad, so definitely go into your menu.
Speaker 1: If you have an LGTV, just update the firmware. That
Speaker 1: way you are protected. They have released a firmware update
Speaker 1: to address these security issues on these TVs. You are
Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The
Speaker 1: phone number eight and eight rich one oh one eight
Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. Yes,
Speaker 1: the music is cutting off early today. It is all
Speaker 1: AI generated, so it's it's a little different. It's from
Speaker 1: a website called ud O u d Io and it's
Speaker 1: free and it's kind of interesting. This one is Bobo's
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Speaker 1: go to Jerry in Pennsylvania. Jerry, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 4: Hello, rich. First of all, I allowed to compliment your
Speaker 4: call streeter. Oh she has a memory. Second to Marry
Speaker 4: Lou Henner.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't know Marril Lou Henter had such
Speaker 1: a great memory.
Speaker 4: Elaine from Taksy correct.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that was a little bit before my time,
Speaker 1: but I trust you on that one. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Chim is fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I have two computers.
Speaker 11: I have a.
Speaker 4: Desktop on laptop and I was able to get no
Speaker 4: problems until my laptop crashed and I had to reset
Speaker 4: my The whole thing problem is now on the desktop,
Speaker 4: I can get into my Discover card no problem by
Speaker 4: using the same credentials. Well, my laptop, it doesn't work
Speaker 4: it Keith says, I got correct the findings. Where should
Speaker 4: I look for the problem?
Speaker 1: Interesting? So is this an auto fill situation? Is it
Speaker 1: auto filling the the information for the password?
Speaker 4: It did?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 4: Use its I actually copied a thumb drive up, I
Speaker 4: copied the info from my desktop or does the thumb
Speaker 4: drive came down and put it into my laptop and
Speaker 4: pasted it in there and it still kicks me out?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think there's a there's got to be
Speaker 1: a character in there that is not like a rogue character.
Speaker 1: So sometimes when you copy and paste across things, it
Speaker 1: could pick up a character or two. You know, depending
Speaker 1: on how you exported, there could be a space in there.
Speaker 1: Just there's a lot of things that that may be
Speaker 1: wrong there. So my advice a couple of things to
Speaker 1: do here to try to figure this out. Number one,
Speaker 1: you should try using a private browser window first off,
Speaker 1: to try to log in. So there there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things that interfere with logins. A lot of times.
Speaker 1: It's an ad blocker that will mess with a like
Speaker 1: if you're ever having trouble with any website, these are
Speaker 1: the things that could be going wrong. Number one, an
Speaker 1: ad blocker that could be keeping some key information off
Speaker 1: of that website. So disable the ad blocker, refresh the website,
Speaker 1: and try again. So that's the first step. Number two,
Speaker 1: Basically it's all your extensions. Any extension could potentially interrupt
Speaker 1: a web page depending on that interaction with that extension.
Speaker 1: So that's why I always try a private browsing window first.
Speaker 1: So use the private browsing window. So go to file
Speaker 1: new If it's Chrome incognito window, use that to log
Speaker 1: into the website first and if that still doesn't work,
Speaker 1: and then obviously type in the password. So figure out
Speaker 1: what this password is for this site, write it down
Speaker 1: somewhere or whatever, and then type it in manually. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you might have the capslock keyon. There could be a
Speaker 1: lot of things that might go wrong in that password process,
Speaker 1: so make sure you're typing it in and then see
Speaker 1: if that works. If that doesn't work, sometimes it's the cookies.
Speaker 1: So if you have third party cookies blocked on a website,
Speaker 1: which I do, that means that sites can't track you
Speaker 1: from site to site. That could interfere with your login.
Speaker 1: But it's mostly And the other thing is is really
Speaker 1: a VPN. So if you're using a VPN, sometimes sites
Speaker 1: don't like that, especially secure websites like a Discover site.
Speaker 1: They do not like VPNs because someone could be running
Speaker 1: a VPN that might be nefarious and doing something wrong
Speaker 1: and they want to evade detection, so they might use
Speaker 1: a VPN. Now I'm not saying every website, but these
Speaker 1: are the things that I've encountered over the years that
Speaker 1: would impact my login. But ninety nine percent of the time,
Speaker 1: if it's a copy and paste situation, I'm adding some
Speaker 1: sort of extra letter or a space to that log in.
Speaker 1: Or sometimes when I when I actually exported all my
Speaker 1: passwords from an old password manager, there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of random characters that did not make it properly, and
Speaker 1: so I forget what the characters were. But I know
Speaker 1: if you know like Unicode or all this stuff, like
Speaker 1: the technical stuff, you would know these characters. But every
Speaker 1: time there was like a specific character, whether it was
Speaker 1: an I don't know, if it's like a semi colon
Speaker 1: or something, it would change it to something else. So
Speaker 1: just make sure that you're entering the right password and
Speaker 1: that should take care of it, especially in that incognito mode.
Speaker 1: And if it works there, you know it's working on
Speaker 1: that laptop. Now you just have to get it to
Speaker 1: work on your main browser. But good question, Jerry. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the call today from Pennsylvania, and have a great day.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Virginia in Utica, New York, Virginia. You're
Speaker 1: on with Rich Hi.
Speaker 2: Rich Hi.
Speaker 12: Question is about AOL In the beginning of time, I
Speaker 12: opened up five email accounts, three for myself and two.
Speaker 13: For my daughter.
Speaker 1: Okay, was that like a present for her? Was that
Speaker 1: like a birth present? When she was born. You open
Speaker 1: them up or what?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 8: When I ope?
Speaker 12: The AOL account is that I could have five sot
Speaker 12: it one account, got it? Okay, your thoughts on AOL
Speaker 12: versus I also have a Google account.
Speaker 1: I'd switch to the Google at this point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails from people that still
Speaker 1: use Aol. Maybe not as much anymore, but you know,
Speaker 1: there are Look, there's nothing wrong with it. I just
Speaker 1: think there's a better email experience out there, and I
Speaker 1: think Google has the best. So it's searchable, it's simple,
Speaker 1: it's not cluttered. You know, I watch people that are
Speaker 1: logging into their AOL email. I'm not going to name names,
Speaker 1: but I know some some people pretty close to me
Speaker 1: that still use that, and it's it's a messy experience.
Speaker 1: It's not very good. It's just it's not clean. It's
Speaker 1: not nice. And honestly, I don't want to be like
Speaker 1: the person that says having an AOL email address kind
Speaker 1: of reveals a lot about you. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, Virginia. When you when you tell
Speaker 1: people when you're at the doctor's office and you're like,
Speaker 1: what's your email? And they're like, You're like, at a
Speaker 1: well dot com. You know, you get that little look,
Speaker 1: you know, like, are you.
Speaker 12: Allowed to two different.
Speaker 4: Ones at Google?
Speaker 12: So you can't, you know, one for shopping and one
Speaker 12: for important stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what I would do in that case is
Speaker 1: Google has this neat thing that you can add a
Speaker 1: plus sign to any email address. So, for instance, if
Speaker 1: your email address is uh, you know Virginia, you know,
Speaker 1: Virginia A at gmail dot com, you can type that
Speaker 1: into a website. And let's say you go shopping on Wayfair.
Speaker 1: You can type Virginia A plus Wayfair at gmail dot
Speaker 1: com and that will still come through to your Gmail
Speaker 1: as a regular email address. And you can do that
Speaker 1: unlimited amount of times. So let's say you sign up
Speaker 1: for the rich on Tech newsletter, right, you can you
Speaker 1: can type in and you say, I don't trust this
Speaker 1: rich guy with my email address, right, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give him a an email that's a little bit more disposable.
Speaker 1: So you can type in Virginia plus rich on Tech
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com and that will come to your
Speaker 1: standard Virginia at gmail dot com email address. You see
Speaker 1: what I mean. So anything after you can add a
Speaker 1: plus sign to your email address along with any letters
Speaker 1: you want, and that will be a separate email and
Speaker 1: it will all come to your regular inbox. Now here's
Speaker 1: the magic of that. You can now, of course they
Speaker 1: don't have your real email address, so if you're on
Speaker 1: a list, you can just go ahead and filter that
Speaker 1: email address to trash if they keep emailing you with
Speaker 1: you know, you can't figure out a way to unsubscribe,
Speaker 1: or you can use it to filter that into different things,
Speaker 1: so you can you know that all your shopping emails
Speaker 1: are Virginia plus shopping at gmail dot com, and you
Speaker 1: give that to Macy's and you know, home Depot and
Speaker 1: whatever you sign up for, and so it can help
Speaker 1: you organize. So it's a neat little thing that's sort
Speaker 1: of built in. There's also a bunch of websites that
Speaker 1: can that can help you generate an email that you
Speaker 1: just need temporarily. So if you're using Gmail and you
Speaker 1: just need an email address to like sign up for
Speaker 1: something shared this last week on the show. But it's
Speaker 1: called ten minutemail dot com and that makes up a
Speaker 1: temporary email address that you can use to let's say,
Speaker 1: you know, has this ever happened to you? Where you
Speaker 1: want to get like a twenty percent off coupon, but
Speaker 1: you don't really want to sign up for the mailing list,
Speaker 1: so you go to this website ten minute mail dot com.
Speaker 1: You give them that email address that they generate on
Speaker 1: the fly, and you can check that email for ten
Speaker 1: minutes on that website and you can get that that
Speaker 1: coupon code or whatever you need, and then you don't
Speaker 1: even have to do anything. It just deletes after ten minutes.
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, so those are some of the close
Speaker 12: my account.
Speaker 1: Oh, closing AOL. Okay, So there's a website that I like.
Speaker 1: It's called just delete me dot x y z, And
Speaker 1: if you go there and you type in AOL, it's
Speaker 1: actually quite easy. A account gets deactivated for a waiting
Speaker 1: period of thirty to one hundred and eighty days depending
Speaker 1: on your country, and then it's permanently deleted, and it
Speaker 1: gives you the link to delete that email address. So
Speaker 1: the link is, let's see here, it's uh yeah, it
Speaker 1: goes to like a special dashboard, my dashboard dot oath
Speaker 1: dot com. So you can use that link, but you
Speaker 1: can go to this website just delete me dot x
Speaker 1: y z, and that will give you the direct link
Speaker 1: to delete your AOL, and not just for AOL, but
Speaker 1: for any website. So, and I don't think there's really
Speaker 1: an issue with keeping the AOL if you want to
Speaker 1: just keep it alive for a while, like, there's no
Speaker 1: real reason to to delete it immediately.
Speaker 12: Does it delete my daughter's accounts too, if.
Speaker 1: They're all linked up under the same account. Yes, it
Speaker 1: would impact her account as well, So all right, I
Speaker 1: have to find out. Okay, so maybe you just switch
Speaker 1: to Gmail and then she can stick to to what
Speaker 1: she's got with AOL eventually.
Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, all right, your thoughts on a beast. I
Speaker 12: keep paying for all these and MS? Is it necessary
Speaker 12: to have all those?
Speaker 1: Uh you're paying for a vast?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, a Vast is actually highly rated. I
Speaker 1: have no problem if you're If you're using that and
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with it and it feels like it's a
Speaker 1: good price. They do offer a free level of SERVI
Speaker 1: if you're If you're happy with it and you feel
Speaker 1: like it's protecting a rachine, I think it's okay. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of the better ones. If you mentioned
Speaker 1: another brand that I don't like, I probably would say
Speaker 1: switch or downgrade, But I think if it's if you're
Speaker 1: keeping it up to date and you feel protected, I'd
Speaker 1: say just stick with it, just.
Speaker 12: Go ahead and pay for it. Okay, alrighty, thank you,
Speaker 12: rich I appreciate it, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Virginia, thanks for the call today from Utica, New York.
Speaker 1: Coming up, I'm gonna tell you what Meta is doing
Speaker 1: when it comes to messages to teenagers and nude images.
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Speaker 1: Meta this week introducing new tools to combat sex tortion
Speaker 1: and also new images on its platform. Now, this is
Speaker 1: primarily meant to protect teen users. So there's a new
Speaker 1: feature in Instagram DMS that if you're sending or receiving
Speaker 1: nude images, it will blur them out by default, and
Speaker 1: if you're trying to send or receive these, it will
Speaker 1: ask you to think twice. So if you try to
Speaker 1: send a nude image, it will say hold on, you
Speaker 1: know that this is out there forever in the world,
Speaker 1: And if you're receiving one, it will say, hold on,
Speaker 1: do you want to see this for real? Because it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's got some explicit stuff going on in it.
Speaker 1: So nudity protection will be turned on by default for
Speaker 1: teens under eighteen. Adults will also be encouraged to enable
Speaker 1: the feature. And if you're wondering about privacy, it actually
Speaker 1: all happens on device. So they've downloaded some sort of
Speaker 1: AI algorithm to the Instagram app that can detect nudity
Speaker 1: and it scans your photos as they're going out or
Speaker 1: going in or as received, and it will figure out
Speaker 1: if there's nudity in those pictures. So this is a
Speaker 1: great first step. I think that this is smart. I
Speaker 1: think that obviously, these tech companies are in a very
Speaker 1: precarious position here because they don't want to be regulated,
Speaker 1: and they know that that regulation is coming, so they're
Speaker 1: trying to do as much as possible, or I should
Speaker 1: say as little as possible. That they seem like they're
Speaker 1: doing a good job to protect people, but in reality,
Speaker 1: you know, do they really care, Probably to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: But what they want is for people to be on
Speaker 1: these platforms as much as humanly possible. We've mentioned that before.
Speaker 1: But I do think this is a good step because,
Speaker 1: you know, teens. It's interesting because this whole sending nudes
Speaker 1: thing is a way of the world at this point
Speaker 1: for teens and adults. There are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that think that this is the way that you get
Speaker 1: someone interested in you. This is what you do when
Speaker 1: you start dating. And if you're an adult, you know, look,
Speaker 1: that's your prerogative. But if you're a teen, you're still
Speaker 1: learning the ways of the world. And this sextortion section
Speaker 1: of it is an interesting twist because a lot of
Speaker 1: times teens will be pressured into sending a nude image
Speaker 1: to someone and then they will, you know, basically that
Speaker 1: person says, hey, you got to now pay me or
Speaker 1: else I'm going to show this to people, and that
Speaker 1: could lead to a lot of terrible, terrible things, and
Speaker 1: it does every day. I mean, just search sextortion in
Speaker 1: Google News and you'll hear stories about this all the time.
Speaker 1: Of course, we're also hearing stories about the AI generated
Speaker 1: nude images that teens are now making of their classmates
Speaker 1: and sharing them around schools, and that's a whole other
Speaker 1: thing that is beginning to happen and will just continue
Speaker 1: to happen. So I think this is smart. I think
Speaker 1: the smartest part about this is that it is enabled
Speaker 1: by defall, and if you're receiving that nude image, it
Speaker 1: is blurred out so that you have the option of
Speaker 1: deleting it or blocking it, or never looking at it
Speaker 1: in the first place. So good job there, Meta for
Speaker 1: doing that. But of course, you know, let's go to
Speaker 1: John in rose Meee. John, you're on with rich Hey
Speaker 1: rich Hey question? Sure?
Speaker 3: Ye trying to you know, as we get tons of
Speaker 3: business cards all the time trying to scan them into
Speaker 3: the Apple Phone contact app. What what would be your
Speaker 3: recommendation for the best app?
Speaker 1: None of them. They're all horrible. I have never come
Speaker 1: across a business card scanning app that I like. I've
Speaker 1: tried them all. I don't even bother anymore, to be honest,
Speaker 1: they're just all horrible. Have you tried some?
Speaker 3: I've tried some before, that little that little gadget where
Speaker 3: you just push it in and scans it, but it's
Speaker 3: just it's yeah, it just doesn't read it well.
Speaker 1: It never gets it right. So with that said, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you some of the top apps out there, but
Speaker 1: you can try them out. But cove co o v
Speaker 1: ve is one of them. Card a hq is another
Speaker 1: card hqbiz dot com. Let's see there's another. See ever
Speaker 1: Note also does it. But honestly, every single time in
Speaker 1: the past that I've ever tried one of these things,
Speaker 1: it always gets it wrong and I end up just
Speaker 1: typing in the information myself. I think you're almost better off.
Speaker 1: You know what John is scanning like taking a picture
Speaker 1: of the card, and then you know how the iOS
Speaker 1: now has like the text ocr like kind of feature
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen that, but you can.
Speaker 1: When you take a picture on the iPhone or Android,
Speaker 1: it puts up a little I in the corner that
Speaker 1: will put all the text where you can highlight it
Speaker 1: and copy and paste. I feel like that's almost a
Speaker 1: better way of putting it into your contacts. It's a
Speaker 1: little more manual, but I find that that cops better anyway.
Speaker 1: If you have a thanks for the call. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you have a recommendation for a great business card
Speaker 1: scanning app, give me a call. Eighty to eight rich
Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two
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Speaker 16: You're hanging out with Utah to all Bridge one.
Speaker 1: That's eighty game seven two World one.
Speaker 9: Then this week done that Big del Tech Week.
Speaker 1: Seven weeks Major. You probably know them for things like
Speaker 1: they're cables and charging accessories. They're based in El Segundo, California,
Speaker 1: and this week they held an event called Spring Fling.
Speaker 1: This was a fun career event for high school students.
Speaker 1: I love this kind of stuff. They had about one
Speaker 1: hundred kids on hand to learn about jobs in the
Speaker 1: tech industry. Take a behind the scenes tour and even
Speaker 1: meet people from cool companies like Google. First Up, I
Speaker 1: talked to Belkan CEO Steven Maloney. What is Belcan all about.
Speaker 17: We're an accessories company. We enhance people's lives through technology.
Speaker 17: We make products that you use every day that you
Speaker 17: may not even think about. Chargers and cables and screen
Speaker 17: protectors for your phones, docs and other things that are
Speaker 17: tech related.
Speaker 1: In a world of sort of Amazon, you know, search
Speaker 1: for something, something's cheaper, how do you compete with all
Speaker 1: of that?
Speaker 17: Boy, you're in you're asking the right question to me,
Speaker 17: because we've spent our entire existence trying to be a
Speaker 17: differentiated company. Right so we've we're standing in our Elsigondo
Speaker 17: facility right now here in El Segundo. We've invested in
Speaker 17: design capabilities, engineering capabilities, and competencies. We think that makes
Speaker 17: us a differentiated company. We do everything under one.
Speaker 1: Roof in house ourselves.
Speaker 17: So you can find lots of cheap imitations out there,
Speaker 17: but Belcan stands for quality and that's what you get
Speaker 17: when you buy a Bulkan product.
Speaker 1: Why open up your facility today to these students.
Speaker 17: Pilcan has invested a lot over the years in things.
Speaker 6: There's a few things we really care about.
Speaker 17: We really care about technology, so we've got an R
Speaker 17: and D facility here with lab space and engineers that
Speaker 17: are working every day to bring great products to market.
Speaker 17: We also care about the environment, so sustainability is really
Speaker 17: important for us, and our products are reflecting that in
Speaker 17: the products that we're shipping right now. We also care
Speaker 17: about the communities that we're in on site. In this location,
Speaker 17: we have a campus for portal learning that we've invested
Speaker 17: in where students have a chance to get competency based learning.
Speaker 17: What we wanted to do today is open it up
Speaker 17: so these students who we have access to facilities like
Speaker 17: ours to be able to learn about what they can
Speaker 17: do in their careers going forward and figure out what
Speaker 17: they wanted to do with their lives and how they
Speaker 17: position themselves for the future.
Speaker 6: What is the outlook in the.
Speaker 1: Tech world right now for students.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think it's really exciting and it's an exciting
Speaker 17: time to be interested in technology.
Speaker 6: It's changing and growing every day.
Speaker 17: There's always going to be the need for new thinking
Speaker 17: and new ideas, and I think that people that are
Speaker 17: interested in technology there's gonna be endless opportunities for them
Speaker 17: to find something that they love, and of course I
Speaker 17: think that's the most the most important thing. You find
Speaker 17: something that you love, you lean into it. Technology is
Speaker 17: going to be there and it's going to continue to evolve,
Speaker 17: and I think there's a lot.
Speaker 6: That youth can bring to that in the future.
Speaker 1: Do they get into coding, do they get into design,
Speaker 1: do they get into Where do they start?
Speaker 17: Boy, that's a really great question, because I think there
Speaker 17: are so many opportunities in technology. I think you named
Speaker 17: a bunch there For me. I think it starts with
Speaker 17: finding what you love. If you love to tinker with things,
Speaker 17: maybe electrical or mechanical engineering is something of interest for you.
Speaker 17: Finding what you love and then leaning into that, I
Speaker 17: think is where you should go because there's endless opportunity
Speaker 17: in this space.
Speaker 1: Does AI play a role in your business at this point.
Speaker 6: Yes, of course it does.
Speaker 17: I think it's it's interesting to see how A is
Speaker 17: growing and evolving. We have a lot of machine learning
Speaker 17: that we do with some of our products, including finn
Speaker 17: which is a water based management technology that we make,
Speaker 17: So we have that billions of data points that we've
Speaker 17: collected there.
Speaker 6: We're doing more and more every day.
Speaker 17: We've launched products recently that have auto tracking technologies incorporated
Speaker 17: into them that are leaning that direction.
Speaker 6: I think we're all very, very curious to know how
Speaker 6: AI is going to evolve.
Speaker 17: I don't think anybody really knows what it's going to
Speaker 17: mean for the future in technology, but there's no doubt it's.
Speaker 6: Here and it's going to continue to grow.
Speaker 17: We're really pleased to be a part of this sort
Speaker 17: of experience where we have a chance to enable opportunities
Speaker 17: for students to be able to think about their futures.
Speaker 6: We're not going to stop doing that.
Speaker 17: As Belkan, We're proud to be part of the community
Speaker 17: here in Southern California.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we're really pleased to be able to host
Speaker 6: an event like this.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a moment in your past when
Speaker 1: you attended something or inspired by something and it helped
Speaker 1: your future?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 17: Really fortunate when I graduated from ucr I and I
Speaker 17: went to school here in southern California. I wasn't too
Speaker 17: sure what I was going to do, and we had
Speaker 17: simple career fairs at our university, and I attended a couple.
Speaker 17: I think it helped me understand what I wanted to
Speaker 17: do and what I probably didn't want to do, so
Speaker 17: I leaned into that and I was able to get
Speaker 17: my start in finance at first. But then understanding in
Speaker 17: southern California, there's a lot of technology innovation startups all around,
Speaker 17: and I leaned in one into one of those, and
Speaker 17: it kind of, you know, was the path of the
Speaker 17: beginning of the path to where I am today.
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on the spot here, so
Speaker 1: get ready. Do you have a favorite product that Belcan
Speaker 1: makes that you use and love?
Speaker 17: Sure, the list is long. The products that I love
Speaker 17: right now. The auto tracking stand Pro is the one
Speaker 17: that we just launched. I love it because it integrates software, hardware,
Speaker 17: and firmware all in an experience that's really innovative and
Speaker 17: I think totally differentiated.
Speaker 1: We're excited to see where that product's going to go next.
Speaker 1: I spoke with Elisa Summer O'Hara. She has an interesting background.
Speaker 1: She studied theater for undergrad then she worked for a
Speaker 1: little bit, then she made a switch. She went back
Speaker 1: to grad.
Speaker 6: School and went into the tech field.
Speaker 1: State of the tech world right now for people that
Speaker 1: are wanting a job in technology, is this still a
Speaker 1: good place?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 14: I mean tech is always changing, so I think that
Speaker 14: now is as exciting a time as any other time,
Speaker 14: especially with AI. Inevitably, we need more people with different
Speaker 14: skills and understanding and tech, and I think that will
Speaker 14: only continue.
Speaker 1: And what does Google get out of being at an
Speaker 1: event like.
Speaker 14: This, Well, for me, because I work on our education team,
Speaker 14: it's so great to spend some time with students and
Speaker 14: hear from them about what they're thinking about how they're
Speaker 14: using our technology in schools. I probably learned more from
Speaker 14: them today than they learned from me, although I hope
Speaker 14: I gave them some advice as to careers in tech
Speaker 14: or ways they can think of about following their curiosity.
Speaker 1: So tell me about that first part, careers in tech?
Speaker 1: What do you tell them?
Speaker 14: I would say that the types of careers in tech
Speaker 14: are really varied. I am not a technical person in
Speaker 14: my role, but I work very closely with our product
Speaker 14: and engineering team. I think we need all sorts of
Speaker 14: people who are passionate about technology and the impact that
Speaker 14: it can have, and we need a lot of different
Speaker 14: skill sets and you can come to a role like
Speaker 14: this from many different angles. One thing that I really
Speaker 14: appreciate about my career is that I've been able to
Speaker 14: follow my curiosity learn new things, and especially in technology,
Speaker 14: the skills you have today are not the ones that
Speaker 14: you're going to need in five years, So following that
Speaker 14: curiosity is really important. I actually had a conversation with
Speaker 14: one of the students who came up. He asked me,
Speaker 14: he wants to study computer science, and he has offers
Speaker 14: from Cornell, cal Poly and USC, And he asked me
Speaker 14: where he should go to school, and whether computer science
Speaker 14: was even a good idea now considering what's happened with Ai.
Speaker 14: And first of all, I certainly don't know where he
Speaker 14: should go to school. But when you're thinking about whether
Speaker 14: computer science is a good thing to learn, I think
Speaker 14: the thing you learn in school is more how to
Speaker 14: think right. And there are fundamental skills in addition to
Speaker 14: that from a quantitative perspective potentially or from a communications perspective.
Speaker 14: But what computer science is today is not going to
Speaker 14: be what you're doing tomorrow. But having those fundamental skills
Speaker 14: and really having rigor in your thinking is really what's important.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest question you get from people about working
Speaker 1: at Google.
Speaker 14: I would say the biggest question I get is how
Speaker 14: do I get a job at Google. I feel really
Speaker 14: privileged to have this job and be able to lead
Speaker 14: the team that I lead. I think there are a
Speaker 14: lot of people who think Google is an amazing company.
Speaker 14: We have so many products that people love, and it
Speaker 14: is an excellent place to work. So that is the
Speaker 14: biggest question I get, and I think biggest. My answer
Speaker 14: to that question is almost always, well what are you
Speaker 14: interested in? Because we have so many different people with
Speaker 14: so many different skill sets, and I think being able
Speaker 14: to understand what skills you have and how you can
Speaker 14: apply them are really what will get you to where
Speaker 14: you want to go, whether it is at Google or
Speaker 14: another company.
Speaker 1: There you have it, follow your curiosity and see where
Speaker 1: it leads to. I love meeting people at these types
Speaker 1: of events, especially the students and also the people that
Speaker 1: work at these tech companies. They all have such varied
Speaker 1: interests in backgrounds. It really is fascinating to see how
Speaker 1: it all comes together. Okay, more rich on Tech coming
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Christina in Long Beach. Christina, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 13: Hi.
Speaker 18: I need to get a new cell phone. I have
Speaker 18: an Android now and I need to save a voicemail.
Speaker 18: It's a very special voicemail. I'm wondering how I can
Speaker 18: do that if I can transfer it and also an
Speaker 18: on a side, I've been saving this voicemail saved safe face,
Speaker 18: and then I can't find it on the regular voicemail call.
Speaker 18: But then I look in the files and I have
Speaker 18: seen it there, so that's kind of like a second question.
Speaker 18: Right now, it's not saved underneath my voicemail, but prior
Speaker 18: I used to look in the some kind of voicemail
Speaker 18: file and I found it. I'm like, how can I
Speaker 18: How can I send it to my new phone or
Speaker 18: send it to myself in a text or an email
Speaker 18: and downloader on my new phone.
Speaker 1: Okay, well the first the first stop is, well, there's
Speaker 1: a couple ways to this. Number one. The easiest way,
Speaker 1: you know there is share. There is a way to
Speaker 1: save voicemails on the visual voicemail apps. I'm both Android
Speaker 1: and iPhone, so I'll start with iPhone. I know that's
Speaker 1: not what you asked for, but you know there's other
Speaker 1: people that use it, and so so if you're inside
Speaker 1: the voicemail tab on your phone, tap a voicemail and
Speaker 1: that will bring up a whole new kind of screen
Speaker 1: and you'll see that familiar share icon. You tap that
Speaker 1: share icon and you'll see there is an option to save,
Speaker 1: so you can save it to your files, or you
Speaker 1: can share it out to you know, Dropbox or your
Speaker 1: Gmail or whatever you want for safekeeping. So that's number one.
Speaker 1: Now on an Android, the app is you know, there's many,
Speaker 1: many different androids out there, so it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit different depending on them. But you said you
Speaker 1: use a Samsung. They have an app called Voicemail. You
Speaker 1: tap that voicemail app and once you get in there
Speaker 1: and you see a voicemail, you can either press a
Speaker 1: hold on that voicemail or there may be three dots.
Speaker 1: But you again, there will be a menu for that message,
Speaker 1: and there will be a share icon as well, and
Speaker 1: so you can use that to share out the voicemail
Speaker 1: to another app like Dropbox or your email account or whatever.
Speaker 1: It will be an audio file. There's also a way
Speaker 1: to look for your voicemails on your phone. So if
Speaker 1: you go into the my files app the internal storage,
Speaker 1: there should be a folder for visual voicemail, and so
Speaker 1: that's another place you can find it. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to do it. The other thing
Speaker 1: you could do, Christina, if none of these options work,
Speaker 1: is just have a friend hold their phone near yours,
Speaker 1: play the voicemail out loud, and have them record it
Speaker 1: using their phone. And that's kind of like the easiest
Speaker 1: method that anyone can do without a lot of technology,
Speaker 1: and it'll still save an audio recording of that voicemail?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 18: Can I about the voicemail app? Is this something I download?
Speaker 18: Or I mean I go to voicemail on.
Speaker 10: The phone app?
Speaker 18: Right, know, the three dots on the top. Is that
Speaker 18: going into my voicemail app? Because I'm you haven't seen
Speaker 18: a share button or any or menu or anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you search your phone, you know how
Speaker 1: to search your phone On the Samsung you swipe up
Speaker 1: and then tap up or says search and search for voicemail.
Speaker 1: You should have a voicemail app, okay, and that is
Speaker 1: a visual voicemail app.
Speaker 10: Okay.
Speaker 18: So I open it up and then look for a
Speaker 18: menu at the top, and then there should be a
Speaker 18: share icon there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So look for your list of messages. Find the
Speaker 1: message that you're trying to save. It should be in
Speaker 1: this list. Now you may have to refresh a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know you can scroll through that list and
Speaker 1: find the message and then find that share icon and
Speaker 1: save it to your files or share it out. Are
Speaker 1: you seeing your list of messages inside the voicemail app?
Speaker 18: I haven't tried it yet.
Speaker 1: Oh you're on the phone, okay, so that's probably why.
Speaker 1: But that's the way to do it, and so there's Look,
Speaker 1: there's definitely a way to save these are just audio files.
Speaker 1: There is a way to save them. And I get
Speaker 1: this question very often from people that have, you know,
Speaker 1: a loved one that left them a message or something
Speaker 1: like that, and they want to keep it forever. So again,
Speaker 1: there are many, many, many ways of doing this. Like
Speaker 1: I said, the easiest way is to just put your
Speaker 1: phone on speaker, play the voicemail, and have someone else
Speaker 1: record it and nearby with their phone and then send
Speaker 1: you that file. That's if you can't figure out any
Speaker 1: other way of doing this. But if you want to
Speaker 1: get the actual real file, there is a way to
Speaker 1: retrieve it, both on iPhone and Samsung. So those are
Speaker 1: the methods. But play around inside that visual Voicemail app
Speaker 1: and you should find a way to export that file.
Speaker 1: What was did you have a second question? Was that
Speaker 1: a second question? You asked?
Speaker 18: Oh, thank you? Well, my second question is I've been
Speaker 18: saving this voicemail forever. And by the way, it's just
Speaker 18: someone who passed away, so sorry to thank you.
Speaker 10: It was my boyfriend, sad.
Speaker 18: But anyway, I've been saving it and then all of
Speaker 18: a sudden it's not on the regular voice app.
Speaker 10: But I would.
Speaker 18: Find it in the files again and then and then
Speaker 18: it's weird. It would still be in my audio file
Speaker 18: in the audio files, but not on the voicemail app.
Speaker 1: Well, if they get archived, they do just go to
Speaker 1: the audio files inside that my file, so that could
Speaker 1: be what happened. And after a certain period of time,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you press the archive, but maybe at
Speaker 1: auto archived. But you know, voicemails in general, they are
Speaker 1: not it's not like a guaranteed system to live forever.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I do get a lot of
Speaker 1: emails from time to time from people that have lost
Speaker 1: a voicemail because they thought it would stay there forever.
Speaker 1: They switch carriers, they switch whatever. Typically they will stay
Speaker 1: in the background sometimes but not all of the time.
Speaker 1: So it really just depends. But I would get this
Speaker 1: voicemail at least, do like today, just do a recording
Speaker 1: of it, like I mentioned, with someone else's phone, like
Speaker 1: a friend's phone. Just do that just so you have
Speaker 1: it and then you can delve a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: But there's definitely ways to save those voicemails so that
Speaker 1: you can have it for forever. Christina, good luck and
Speaker 1: keep me posted. So if you if you're successful with this,
Speaker 1: please send me an email on the website. Rich on
Speaker 1: tech dot tv. I want to hear the update. So okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for the call today, appreciate it. Let's
Speaker 1: go to uh Sam in Sherman Oaks. Sam, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm looking for a indoor TV antenna that's good
Speaker 5: for just for mainly forgetting local channels.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we actually interviewed the CEO of a website
Speaker 1: called Antenna's Direct. I've been recommending them for oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like probably fifteen years at least. At this point, they
Speaker 1: actually bought another company, so they bought the other company
Speaker 1: that I recommended as well. So it's all in one.
Speaker 1: But I would go to their website and depending on
Speaker 1: where you are, you put in your zip code on
Speaker 1: this website. You're in Sherman Oaks, you said, not sure
Speaker 1: the zip code there, but I'll just put in a
Speaker 1: random LA zip code here.
Speaker 19: Zero one, nine to one.
Speaker 1: For zero one, okay, nine to one for zero one.
Speaker 1: So you pop in that zip code and it will
Speaker 1: see it will show you like where you you know,
Speaker 1: the channels that you can get where you're located, and
Speaker 1: you know the antennas that are trying to beam it
Speaker 1: to your house. So you can tap view antennas and
Speaker 1: it will show you the suggested antennas for your location.
Speaker 1: And so for you, it looks like you need an
Speaker 1: indoor amplified or an attic one UH and they have
Speaker 1: those ranging anywhere from thirty three dollars up to one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine dollars. And it gives you all
Speaker 1: of the channels that you are able to receive and
Speaker 1: how far away those channels are broadcasting from you, so
Speaker 1: that you can understand how much of a signal. But
Speaker 1: in your area, you're in a very good area. The
Speaker 1: signals are strong for pretty much every single channel that
Speaker 1: I'm seeing on this list of over there's a lot
Speaker 1: of channels here. You have one hundred let's see, well, anyway,
Speaker 1: there's a a lot of channels thirty three transmitters within
Speaker 1: seventy miles of you, and some of those have obviously
Speaker 1: more than one UH station on those channels. So it
Speaker 1: looks like you're in a pretty good place there in
Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks to get these to get these over the
Speaker 1: air signals. So again the website Antennasdirect dot com and
Speaker 1: Tennasdirect dot com. I'll link it up at Richontech dot TV.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, I'm gonna explain, oh my pizza error,
Speaker 1: why I ended up with two pizzas last night thanks
Speaker 1: to the magic of technology. You are listening to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple A
Speaker 1: rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. If the music sounds a
Speaker 1: bit unusual today, that's because it has been generated completely
Speaker 1: by AI. I used a website called udio udio dot com.
Speaker 1: You type in what you want and it will generate
Speaker 1: a song. You can even paste in your own lyrics.
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want and it will generate
Speaker 1: a thirty second clip. You can make it longer, you
Speaker 1: can remix it, you can change the lyrics, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. It's pretty wild. Some big backers of
Speaker 1: this website, which just launched this week to the public,
Speaker 1: and this is the new reality, folks. We are going
Speaker 1: to see more and more of these things that used
Speaker 1: to be done by highly creative people, at least the
Speaker 1: first draft perhaps done by AI. That's design, that's writing,
Speaker 1: that's video audio photos. It's pretty wild. Do you want
Speaker 1: to wish a happy birthday to call screen or Kim?
Speaker 1: It is her birthday this weekend, so she is going
Speaker 1: to be partying all weekend to celebrate. So happy birthday, Kim.
Speaker 1: I love that we get. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people know Kim from the call screening when they call in,
Speaker 1: so she's kind of gotten a little little name for
Speaker 1: herself on this show and of course the previous show
Speaker 1: as well. Let's go to Ben in. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's La Louisiana. Ben, you're on with Rich?
Speaker 5: All right, Rich, I'm from La actually, okay, perfect, Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: got it.
Speaker 20: So I have a ten year old MacBook. I need
Speaker 20: to basically replace it, said the point where I can't
Speaker 20: update any softler. So I was wanting any recommendation. It's
Speaker 20: just for personal use, not doing anything to major with
Speaker 20: the just.
Speaker 1: You just need a laptop. Yeah, how much do you
Speaker 1: want to spend?
Speaker 4: You know, I know MacBooks, so I'm about like three three.
Speaker 1: Four three or four thousand.
Speaker 20: I know how a MacBook. They're at Apples, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 20: I want to back. I'll have Apple products.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you want and you have you have three
Speaker 1: to four thousand budget for a MacBook Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I mean get the top of the line, get the
Speaker 1: best MacBook Pro you can afford. I'd go with the
Speaker 1: uh uh sixteen inch MacBook Pro and get the best
Speaker 1: specs that you can for three thousand bucks. I meant
Speaker 1: you kept your last computer for ten years, so I
Speaker 1: would you know it sounds like I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you do the math, if you keep this one for
Speaker 1: another ten you're talking, you know, three hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 1: That's three hundred divided by twelve, that's twenty five bucks
Speaker 1: a month. And I'm not I'm not talking payments. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking because I don't recommend, you know, payments at all.
Speaker 1: I do recommend buying this if you can outright, and
Speaker 1: then I'm just saying how much this kind of costs
Speaker 1: you over those years because you're using a law. But anyway,
Speaker 1: sixteen inch MacBook Pro. They just came out with the
Speaker 1: the M three chips. I would get one of those,
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the base model for that. You're
Speaker 1: talking twenty four to ninety nine that gets you the
Speaker 1: sixteen inch screen. Let's see what kind of specs they
Speaker 1: give you for the drive and stuff like that.
Speaker 20: Do they have one with a touch screen?
Speaker 1: They do not. And I'll be honest, every time, I'm
Speaker 1: getting more and more upset with Apple because I test
Speaker 1: all these other Windows computers that have all gone touchscreen,
Speaker 1: and it's it's pretty nice to have that feature. I'm
Speaker 1: testing a sixteen inch Samsung right now, and it's got
Speaker 1: a gorgeous screen and it's touchscreen, and it is slick,
Speaker 1: and it's it's basically Samsung's answer to the MacBook Pro,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really really nice. That's the Galaxy Book
Speaker 1: four series. But again, you said you've got all Mac
Speaker 1: so of course you want to stick with that. This
Speaker 1: for your budget twenty let's say three thousand bucks, you
Speaker 1: get eighteen gigs of memory, you get their brand new
Speaker 1: M three chip, you get a five hundred and twelve
Speaker 1: gigabyte storage, which I don't think is that much. I
Speaker 1: probably ump that up to a terabyte if you can.
Speaker 1: And then you're going to get the ports that they offer,
Speaker 1: which is a memory card, you know, headphone HDMI, and
Speaker 1: a couple of mag Safe ports sorry Thunderbolt ports. So
Speaker 1: that's going to be a really nice computer for that
Speaker 1: price tag. On the cheap end of things, Ben, if
Speaker 1: you don't want to spend a lot, or if you're
Speaker 1: listening and you don't want to spend as much as
Speaker 1: Ben is wanting to spend. I think the best deal
Speaker 1: right now is the M one MacBook Air at Walmart.
Speaker 1: It is selling for six hundred and ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 1: That is an incredible deal. I've actually seen it as
Speaker 1: low as six point fifty, so watch that price. Because
Speaker 1: Walmart's offering it for six ninety nine. Some other retailers
Speaker 1: have swooped in and said, you know what, we'll do
Speaker 1: six fifty. So that I think is the best value
Speaker 1: for a MacBook Air or a cheap Apple computer is
Speaker 1: the MacBook Air thirteen inch M one at Walmart six
Speaker 1: hundred ninety nine dollars. First time that Walmart is selling
Speaker 1: an Apple MacBook and they came out swinging with this
Speaker 1: price tag. It's a really, really compelling price tag. I
Speaker 1: think the cheapest we saw it over the holidays was
Speaker 1: like seven fifty, so it's like fifty dollars cheaper. And
Speaker 1: if you get it for that six fifty somewhere, if
Speaker 1: they do that sale again, even cheaper. But for Ben,
Speaker 1: for you, that sixteen inch MacBook Pro I think is
Speaker 1: going to be the best. I went with the fourteen
Speaker 1: inch MacBook Pro and I hate it. It's way too
Speaker 1: small of a screen. I'm probably gonna upgrade, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I need the Pro anymore because the m
Speaker 1: chips have gotten so good. I think I'm just going
Speaker 1: with the MacBook Air sixteen inch or is it fifteen inch?
Speaker 1: I think it's fifteen inch. Actually, let me say here,
Speaker 1: it's been a while since. Oh it's in my bag.
Speaker 1: You know I'm shopping on Apple when it's already in
Speaker 1: my bag. Yeah, it's a fifteen inch MacBook Air. And
Speaker 1: the one that I've specked out is about it's almost
Speaker 1: like three thousand bucks because I want a higher end
Speaker 1: memory and storage. Okay, thanks for the call, benppreciate it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Carlos in Downy. Carlos, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 5: I'm Rich.
Speaker 11: Good to hear from you.
Speaker 1: I got to hear from you for you.
Speaker 11: I don't know if you've already discussed this or not.
Speaker 11: When it a see if there's an external hard drive
Speaker 11: where I can go ahead and transfer my pictures from
Speaker 11: my iPhone videos from my iPhone via air drop. I
Speaker 11: went to Apple, but all they suggested, obviously was the cloud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they did, because guess what you pay forever.
Speaker 1: And it's so mysterious. Snology the company that makes these
Speaker 1: network attached storage drives they have, Oh my gosh, the
Speaker 1: name of it is evading me. But it's like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I got to remember the name of this.
Speaker 1: But it's called like sugar Bee or something like that.
Speaker 1: But it's this little drive that they came up with,
Speaker 1: and it's a let's say, sync drive. I gotta find
Speaker 1: the name of this thing, but it's a it's okay,
Speaker 1: I'll figure out the name before we at some point
Speaker 1: during the show. But there is a drive that lets
Speaker 1: you kind of sync. You plug in your iPhone into
Speaker 1: your computer and it will kind of suck the pictures
Speaker 1: off the iPhone and put them onto this little drive.
Speaker 1: And so it's like a good alternative and it's like
Speaker 1: a one terabyte drive. I mentioned it on the show.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what the name of it is,
Speaker 1: and I really can't remember right now, but if I
Speaker 1: if I think of it, I will mention it on
Speaker 1: the show. Maybe during the break, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like, oh gosh, it's yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're using iPhone.
Speaker 11: Did you say, yeah, I'm using an eyeball.
Speaker 1: Now, there's some other ways you can do it. Do
Speaker 1: you have a Windows computer or a Mac?
Speaker 11: I have a Mac.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna say, because you know, you could
Speaker 1: just plug your phone into your Mac and just have
Speaker 1: it take the photos off and put them into iPhoto
Speaker 1: and then back that up to a hard drive. Now,
Speaker 1: what I don't like about the way iPhoto does it
Speaker 1: is they put them in a p prietary filing system,
Speaker 1: which is a pain if you ever want to sort
Speaker 1: of do anything else with those pictures. So I'm not
Speaker 1: a huge fan of that. But there's also some apps
Speaker 1: as well that you might want to take a look at.
Speaker 1: They just they just launched a new app that I'm
Speaker 1: testing called alt Tunes a L T t U n es.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's just on Windows, but it will be
Speaker 1: coming to the Mac. But that's one way, And I
Speaker 1: Amazing is another app that you can check out. Have
Speaker 1: you heard of that one?
Speaker 11: No, I haven't heard of that one. I do have
Speaker 11: Google Photos where I do.
Speaker 9: Back it up.
Speaker 11: Okay, but I want to go ahead and have you
Speaker 11: want that copy. Yeah, in case googleever it goes you know,
Speaker 11: caput or something, at least I have a backup and
Speaker 11: not lose everything that I have on Google Photos.
Speaker 1: You can also just use image capture built into your
Speaker 1: computer and just just dragging. I mean, if you're just
Speaker 1: trying to get them onto a drive, you can just
Speaker 1: plug your phone into your computer use image capture. It
Speaker 1: kind of remembers the photos that you've imported versus not.
Speaker 1: So you know, let's say you do this once a week.
Speaker 1: You just import the new ones and then just drag
Speaker 1: them onto a hard drive or just import them directly
Speaker 1: to that hard drive. Why don't you do that? That's
Speaker 1: like the cheapest, easiest and free. Oh okay, have you
Speaker 1: tried image capture?
Speaker 11: No, I haven't tried it.
Speaker 1: It's built.
Speaker 11: I do have the extern that there's a small sanded
Speaker 11: flash drive where I've used it, But that just takes
Speaker 11: a while. The profits and most of the videos are
Speaker 11: about a minute long. They're nothing really over five minutes.
Speaker 11: Y're a minute or too long, but it takes a
Speaker 11: while for you to go ahead and be able to
Speaker 11: process it through into the small flash drive and then
Speaker 11: get the flash drive connected on my MacBook and then
Speaker 11: extract it from the flash drive over to my external drive.
Speaker 11: So I was wondering, I'm like, is there one way
Speaker 11: where we could just do it? Air drop it?
Speaker 1: The air drop is going to be you could do that,
Speaker 1: but that's going to be a pain because you have
Speaker 1: to figure out which pictures you've done which you haven't.
Speaker 1: I think I think image capture that's that's built into
Speaker 1: your Mac That's probably gonna be the easiest. That's what
Speaker 1: I used to to import stuff from all kinds of media,
Speaker 1: you know, whether you connect a SD card or a phone,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But the iPhone, of course, works really
Speaker 1: nice with that. So I'd use that and just do
Speaker 1: that once a week. It'll it'll remember. It marks the
Speaker 1: pictures that you've already imported with like a little dot
Speaker 1: or something like a little green dot. I think it
Speaker 1: also it depends you have an iPhone with the USBC
Speaker 1: or the Lightning USBC.
Speaker 11: Okay, I was gonna say I have them.
Speaker 1: I think USBC started with the fifteen though.
Speaker 11: Okay, so then yes you have Lightning.
Speaker 1: So I will say, if you want to try the
Speaker 1: method where you plug the flash drive directly into the iPhone.
Speaker 1: The connection has gotten considerably faster since the lightning connection
Speaker 1: on the USB C It's a lot faster. So, oh
Speaker 1: what am I saying? You didn't get the USBC, So
Speaker 1: never mind, it's not gonna matter. But for anyone else
Speaker 1: that's listening that does have USBC, it is a lot faster.
Speaker 1: And they also make drives that kind of had two sides. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm confusing a lot of things because there's a
Speaker 1: drive with like a lightning on one side, USBC on
Speaker 1: the other, or the one that I have has USBC
Speaker 1: on one side and then a standard USB on the
Speaker 1: other side. So there's a lot of ways to do this.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Carlos, I think
Speaker 1: the simplest way is going to be connect your phone
Speaker 1: with a cable to your computer and just use that
Speaker 1: image capture. It'll pull the new images off the phone,
Speaker 1: drag them to that drive, or just import them into
Speaker 1: that file and that drive the folder, and that's the
Speaker 1: best way to keep that physical copy. Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for the call today, eighty eight rich one on one
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero
Speaker 1: one coming up. I'll tell you about my pizza story
Speaker 1: and why Google is launching its answer to the AirTag network.
Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Rios zach Rich zero here eighty eight rich one on
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Speaker 2: Let's get to Terry and seal Beach.
Speaker 1: A very patient Terry, thanks for holding on the line
Speaker 1: for a while. Welcome to the show. Hello, how Rich, Helloha.
Speaker 7: And happy birthday to Kim.
Speaker 13: She's the backbone of your show in case you haven't
Speaker 13: already realized that, Oh.
Speaker 1: She is the shell. Yeah, I know, believe me. What
Speaker 1: can I help you with?
Speaker 13: Well, you know you were speaking about flying over the
Speaker 13: Pacific Ocean. Can I share with you very quickly a
Speaker 13: story that involves you?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 13: Okay?
Speaker 19: Two months ago I was flying to Fiji on Fiji Airways,
Speaker 19: and you.
Speaker 13: May not be surprised to learn that the bottle of
Speaker 13: water that they sell is or that they serve is
Speaker 13: Fiji water.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, Okay.
Speaker 19: So, as I'm doing this ten hour red eye flight
Speaker 19: from Lax to Fiji, at three AM, I go back
Speaker 19: to the cabin to get a glass of water, and
Speaker 19: I'm talking to the cabin crew about how relatively expensive
Speaker 19: Fiji water is in the States, and I repeated the
Speaker 19: story that you told on the air about how the
Speaker 19: only bottled water that your kids, who are not even
Speaker 19: teenagers yet will drink is water.
Speaker 1: It's not the only water they'll drink, it's just if
Speaker 1: I ever give them a choice, that's what they prefer,
Speaker 1: because they yeah, clearly they're spoiled, but.
Speaker 13: Yes, obviously they're water kind of stores. And the cabin
Speaker 13: crew thought.
Speaker 21: That was hilarious and they said to tell you bulah,
Speaker 21: which is the equivalency of aloha.
Speaker 1: Ah okay boolah huh okay. Very cool, that's a great story.
Speaker 7: Well, anyway, on my trip, I have a unlocked Google
Speaker 7: Pixel five A five G which did not I have
Speaker 7: support for eSIM, and so when I flew to Fiji
Speaker 7: and then later on to Australia, I had to buy
Speaker 7: two different physical SIM cards, and the one that I
Speaker 7: used in Australia first time I ever used Votaphone.
Speaker 13: They were absolutely terrible. I would not recommend them to anyone.
Speaker 21: And even though I was supposed to have text messaging
Speaker 21: capabilities on my Votaphone sim card, only some.
Speaker 13: Messages would be communicated and the text support was terrible,
Speaker 13: and I actually was thinking About'm getting ready to go
Speaker 13: to Greece and I was seriously looking at replacing my
Speaker 13: phone until I found out that my old Google Pixel
Speaker 13: five A five G now has eSIM capability.
Speaker 1: Oh they added it with a software update.
Speaker 13: Well that was my question for you, apparently, So I mean.
Speaker 1: They definitely can do it, because I I've been testing
Speaker 1: a one plus phone that when it came out it
Speaker 1: did not have eSIM, but then they did a software
Speaker 1: update and it does, so it is possible. I can't
Speaker 1: confirm that for the Pixel five A, but I you know,
Speaker 1: if you say it and I believe it. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what so your question is what should you try?
Speaker 1: A Yeah, it does say it does have an eSIM,
Speaker 1: so you're going to try an eSIM this time around
Speaker 1: before you go?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 21: And I know that I know that you've spoken previously
Speaker 21: highly of Erlow.
Speaker 13: So the only thing about Erlo is they do not
Speaker 13: support text messaging. So I was wondering if there's a
Speaker 13: couple of others that I've been looking at that I've
Speaker 13: never heard of.
Speaker 1: Well here's the deal. It's it's kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: it's not the text. It will support text messaging if
Speaker 1: your primary carrier offers uh tech Wi Fi messaging. So
Speaker 1: if your pixel is set up with your primary phone
Speaker 1: line and it has you know you have one. I
Speaker 1: find messaging like most of the modern carriers. Now, which
Speaker 1: carrier do you have?
Speaker 13: I'm actually with Consumer.
Speaker 1: Okay, do they have do they offer? Okay? Well, actually okay,
Speaker 1: So they're interesting because I was looking at their their
Speaker 1: support for overseas, it's a little different than a lot
Speaker 1: of the carriers, so I'd be very careful. In fact,
Speaker 1: I would not use them at all overseas.
Speaker 16: Well.
Speaker 13: That's why I've been buying physical cards because they country
Speaker 13: that I go to they do not have overseas or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do charge if you do any sort
Speaker 1: of roaming or anything like that.
Speaker 13: But but domestically I've been with them for years. They're awesome.
Speaker 13: I did go with Google Fi for one month and
Speaker 13: they were absolutely well. My experience was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1: So I just tested I just tested back to consumer.
Speaker 1: I just tested Google Fi a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and they actually were They exceeded my expectations. I thought
Speaker 1: it was pretty great. But anyway, so long story short
Speaker 1: about the sims. I don't in general recommend that. The
Speaker 1: problem with the SIM if you're going to get a
Speaker 1: separate phone number, people are going to be texting you
Speaker 1: on that random phone number when you're overseas, that's really
Speaker 1: complicated unless you're there for an extremely long period of time.
Speaker 1: I would not recommend that. So my advice is to
Speaker 1: just have people text you through you know, a WhatsApp
Speaker 1: or a Facebook messenger, and they just you just have to,
Speaker 1: you know, send out to your close friends and family
Speaker 1: that hey, I'm on you know, vacation or traveling or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I can't take your text because if Consumer Cellular
Speaker 1: doesn't offer that, you know, the Wi Fi texting, then
Speaker 1: to go through the hassle of setting up a whole
Speaker 1: new phone number, I don't even know how you tell
Speaker 1: people that number for just the week you're all overseas.
Speaker 1: But most of the sims are data only. They're not
Speaker 1: really meant for calls. You can do voice over IP calls,
Speaker 1: but they're all meant for data pretty much. That's that's
Speaker 1: my advice, Ara Low and then US Mobile also has
Speaker 1: an international e SIM coming up. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: more about mobile networks with the CEO of mobile X.
Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking
Speaker 1: technology the website for the show richon Tech dot TV.
Speaker 1: Joining me now is Peter Adderton, founder and CEO of
Speaker 1: a new mobile service called mobile X. He also is
Speaker 1: the founder of Boost Mobile. Peter, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks Rich Thanks for having me. So first off, give
Speaker 1: me the history on Boost, like you founded that. Obviously
Speaker 1: you've moved on since then, but what was sort of
Speaker 1: the synthesis back then, Like what was your main goal
Speaker 1: with Boost?
Speaker 22: You know, when we first came to the US, and
Speaker 22: I think about two thousand and two thousand and one
Speaker 22: to launch Boost, prepaid basically was nonexistent. Most carriers were
Speaker 22: trying to chase the postpaid customer, which in their minds
Speaker 22: they considered to be the higher value customer, and so
Speaker 22: prepaid was pretty much being left behind. Obviously you can
Speaker 22: tell from my accent I'm Australian. What we were seeing
Speaker 22: in Australia and outside the US was the prepaid was
Speaker 22: really starting to grow and it was growing to like
Speaker 22: fifty percent of the market. So I saw an incredible
Speaker 22: opportunity here to launch boost.
Speaker 15: We launched it with next Heel back in the day.
Speaker 22: I think you might remember the push to talk oh
Speaker 22: ye ide and technology, the whole where you at campaign
Speaker 22: put Kanye West into his first commercial and really built
Speaker 22: a brand that was you know that's still here today,
Speaker 22: I think some twenty years later. So you know, that
Speaker 22: was really the kind of drive behind it was to
Speaker 22: try to give you know, the unconnected the ability to
Speaker 22: get connected. So that's really what we've been doing for
Speaker 22: the last twenty years, focused on the consumer.
Speaker 1: And now you've got this new venture called mobile X
Speaker 1: and this is a an MV and O, so we
Speaker 1: have to explain what that is and also it used
Speaker 1: a lot of AI and so what are you trying
Speaker 1: to Well, first off, explain Mobile X and kind of
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do this time around.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 22: So one of the things that's always been a kind
Speaker 22: of a concern to me that consumers aren't really aware
Speaker 22: of is that a lot of them are buying data
Speaker 22: that they never need. I mean, I'll ask you this question,
Speaker 22: Rich and I'm almost positive you're not going to be
Speaker 22: able to answer it.
Speaker 15: How much data do you need? Do you use?
Speaker 1: No idea? I know I do know. From time to
Speaker 1: time I check my wife's usage and it's like so
Speaker 1: minuscule that I'm like, I laugh at her. I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: you don't do anything on your phone? But I do.
Speaker 1: Obviously I probably use more data than the average person,
Speaker 1: But I agree, we're paying in advance for something that
Speaker 1: you know, we don't even know how much we're using
Speaker 1: or how much we might need.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 22: So what we wanted to do with Mobile X, I
Speaker 22: mean a lot of people also don't realize that the
Speaker 22: carriers make their money two ways. They sell you data
Speaker 22: they know you don't need, and then when you go
Speaker 22: over they charge you. So it's kind of overage and breakage.
Speaker 22: So what we wanted to do is we wanted to
Speaker 22: right size that. So I wanted to put machine learning
Speaker 22: AI in the consumer's hands.
Speaker 15: And have them tell us what they need. And what
Speaker 15: we're found is.
Speaker 22: And I found this even myself, my bill hasn't been
Speaker 22: any more than sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 15: Dollars because a lot of what I do is in
Speaker 15: Wi Fi.
Speaker 22: Then when I'm out on the road, I mean, unless
Speaker 22: you're using video, and even if you use video, we
Speaker 22: give you the option to be able to use four
Speaker 22: eighty seven twenty or ten eighty or four K. I've
Speaker 22: got mindset at four eighty. I can't even tell the
Speaker 22: difference in video quality. So we really put a lot
Speaker 22: of the control back into the consumer's hands and we
Speaker 22: use machine learning AI to help them, and we are
Speaker 22: bringing down the bills significantly. As an example, my family
Speaker 22: BILLT on AT and T before I jumped over to
Speaker 22: Mobile X was north of three hundred dollars.
Speaker 15: Now we're south of fifty.
Speaker 22: And we have done nothing different other than we're not
Speaker 22: paying for data that we don't need. And so I
Speaker 22: think if consumers really want to save money, and now's
Speaker 22: the time.
Speaker 7: To do it right.
Speaker 22: Obviously we're coming into an inflationary period, things are going up.
Speaker 22: Great way to save it is to get on Mobile X,
Speaker 22: try us out for ten days, let the AI do
Speaker 22: its work and it comes back and basically customize a
Speaker 22: plan exactly for what you need. And as I said,
Speaker 22: the majority of people, we're saving significant amounts of money for.
Speaker 1: A couple points. So the reason I'm having you on
Speaker 1: the shelf, first off, because I've been testing Mobile X.
Speaker 1: I used it throughout my entire trip in Hawaii, had
Speaker 1: no issues whatsoever. But it's funny you said the four
Speaker 1: eighty because I was just inside the app kind of
Speaker 1: looking at some of the settings, and I noticed that
Speaker 1: my video was streaming at four eighty. And I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty like tech savvy guy, and I did not notice
Speaker 1: that in any way, shape or form that my video
Speaker 1: was streaming at four eighty on a brand new Samsung
Speaker 1: S twenty four Ultra, which has a great screen. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell the difference there, So clearly, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think that matters to most people. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the plans on your website. One of them starts at
Speaker 1: four dollars and eight cents a month, another one starts
Speaker 1: at fifteen a month for five gigs, and then another
Speaker 1: one is thirty gigs for twenty five dollars. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's unlimited talking text with all those plans. But I
Speaker 1: think that the main issue with people and their cellular
Speaker 1: carriers is they are very scared to switch. So I
Speaker 1: know that I'm overpaying for my wife's line specifically, and
Speaker 1: our bill just went up, but it's so scary, like
Speaker 1: she questions, like, wait, am I going to lose this?
Speaker 1: Am I going to lose that? Is this going to
Speaker 1: work the same. Do you find that to be the case.
Speaker 22: Yeah, Look, I think that you know changing and that's
Speaker 22: why we have this thing called churn in the industry,
Speaker 22: and it's very very low, right.
Speaker 15: And that's because people are scared to.
Speaker 22: Be able to switch across, you know, an mv and
Speaker 22: O like our sales Mobile X. We're on the best
Speaker 22: network in the country. We have the same access that
Speaker 22: everybody else has and we have better tools. So it
Speaker 22: really is for consumers can save themselves significant amounts of
Speaker 22: money by jumping over to mv and os like Mobile X.
Speaker 15: And I say this to everybody.
Speaker 22: And when you leave your house, you don't know leave
Speaker 22: all the lights on, right, You run around and you
Speaker 22: turn them all off, right because you're trying to save money.
Speaker 15: And even when you look at filling up your car,
Speaker 15: you fill it up.
Speaker 22: If I filled your car up and at the end
Speaker 22: of the month, I came and siphoned it out, no
Speaker 22: matter how much gas you used, that's exactly what the
Speaker 22: carriers do. They give you all this data and at
Speaker 22: the end of the month they siphon out even if
Speaker 22: you haven't used it, and then recharge you again. So
Speaker 22: I think the consumers are getting smart, they're getting wiser,
Speaker 22: and they're quickly realizing that they don't need one of
Speaker 22: the big three brands when you can actually get one
Speaker 22: of the big three brands networks and save yourself a
Speaker 22: significant amount of money. And as I said, my usage
Speaker 22: hasn't changed, my experience has got better. And so I
Speaker 22: really encourage consumers to get out there and have a
Speaker 22: look because it really can.
Speaker 15: As I said, it can save them significant families.
Speaker 22: Thousands of dollars, by the way, a year, not not
Speaker 22: like hundreds thousands of dollars a year.
Speaker 15: MOBILEX can save them.
Speaker 1: What about this idea of poorting out the number? Is
Speaker 1: that process tough? Is it easy? Is it automated? What's
Speaker 1: the deal with that?
Speaker 15: It's pretty easy.
Speaker 22: Actually, you go on, you ask your carrier for a
Speaker 22: port out pin, they give you a port out pin,
Speaker 22: You put that into the app. We're all up driven,
Speaker 22: and then the number switches across. For the majority of people,
Speaker 22: it's seamless.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 22: When I moved over my family, I think it took
Speaker 22: about sixty seconds and I was up and running on
Speaker 22: Mobile X, coming across from AT and T. So it's
Speaker 22: it's it's not that hard. I mean, it's daunting to
Speaker 22: a lot of people. You can do it in the app,
Speaker 22: you don't need to go into a store. We've got
Speaker 22: an incredible customer care team that's focused on this, so
Speaker 22: you can get onto them straight away and they'll make
Speaker 22: sure they help you out. But again, these are thousands
Speaker 22: of dollars of savings. In fact, the matter I'm saving
Speaker 22: my eldest daughter. We leased a car on the monthly
Speaker 22: mount that we were saving. Wow, we've actually got her
Speaker 22: at car. And so I tell people this is not
Speaker 22: about saving pennies. You can save hundreds of dollars by
Speaker 22: just checking out mobile ax.
Speaker 15: And again we've got experience.
Speaker 22: I founded the Boost business, which has got millions of
Speaker 22: customers and saved a lot of people a lot of money.
Speaker 15: This is the next step, in my.
Speaker 22: Opinion, in mobile communications and how consumers really can take
Speaker 22: control back.
Speaker 1: How big of it? How big of a deal is
Speaker 1: it that you guys got into Walmart?
Speaker 22: Oh, look, it's huge. I mean, you know, everybody knows that.
Speaker 22: You know, ninety percent of Americans live within ten miles
Speaker 22: of a Walmart. Walmart's also all of saving people money
Speaker 22: and making.
Speaker 15: Their lives better. That's exactly what mobilex is.
Speaker 22: And so yeah, I mean it also gives us credibility,
Speaker 22: I think to consumers. You know, Walmart doesn't just put
Speaker 22: anybody in their stores, and so if you're well, I'm
Speaker 22: not too sure who mobile x is, Oh wow, Walmart's
Speaker 22: got them in there.
Speaker 15: You can go in and see us as.
Speaker 22: An inline in there. You can buy it online through
Speaker 22: Walmart dot com. But I think that that should give people,
Speaker 22: you know.
Speaker 15: The feeling of security.
Speaker 22: The other thing is we run on the Verizon network, right,
Speaker 22: which is the largest network, you know, as far as
Speaker 22: I'm concerned, in America. So we've got a great network,
Speaker 22: great retail partner, great technology, and now we've got obviously
Speaker 22: phones online, so you can actually go get phones as well,
Speaker 22: so there's really good chance to go on and enjoy
Speaker 22: mobile x.
Speaker 1: It's funny. That's what made me take you guys seriously.
Speaker 1: I'd been pitched on this a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: I was familiar. But when I was at Walmart and
Speaker 1: I saw the display and I saw that most of
Speaker 1: the simcards are actually gone, I said, huh interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: the fact that you're in Walmart and the fact that
Speaker 1: people are buying these SIM cards clearly tells me something
Speaker 1: that people are interested in. This real quick, I've got
Speaker 1: about thirty seconds explain that that AI tool that kind
Speaker 1: of learns your usage, because that's really interesting. If you're
Speaker 1: like you know, you just use your phone a tiny bit,
Speaker 1: this could save you a lot.
Speaker 15: It doesn't. So I'll give you a classic example.
Speaker 22: A customer ring me up the other day and they
Speaker 22: put their mother in law on Mobile X and she
Speaker 22: basically signed up, did the whole thing, poured it over
Speaker 22: and she said, now what and they said nothing. Just
Speaker 22: go do what you're going to do, and at the
Speaker 22: end of the eight days, it'll come back and tell
Speaker 22: you what you plan is. You don't need to pick
Speaker 22: a plan. The plan actually picks you, and we use
Speaker 22: machine learning AI to do that.
Speaker 15: So you basically just go around do whatever you're doing.
Speaker 22: And at the end of the ten days we come
Speaker 22: back and say, here's the exact plan for you. Now,
Speaker 22: if you're supposed to be one of those unlimited plans,
Speaker 22: we'll tell you right. If you're using a lot of data,
Speaker 22: we'll say, hey, these are the best plans. But the
Speaker 22: majority of people, seventy to eighty percent of them aren't
Speaker 22: going on to an unlimited plan and basically spending between
Speaker 22: five and fifteen dollars a month. So it really is
Speaker 22: incredible when you actually know and that question I asked
Speaker 22: you at the beginning, how much data you use? You
Speaker 22: can go into the app and find out very very
Speaker 22: quickly and we'll tell you. And each month, by the way,
Speaker 22: you can change your plan. You know, as you know
Speaker 22: right now today most plans are stuck. So whether you
Speaker 22: do a three months, six months or twelve month, we don't.
Speaker 22: We let you change your plan every month if it's
Speaker 22: going to save you money real quick.
Speaker 1: Do you support the Apple Watch.
Speaker 22: We're about to We don't today, we're about to. Apple
Speaker 22: is a unique group. As you know, you're in tech,
Speaker 22: so you understand that they they have a special experience
Speaker 22: with consumers.
Speaker 15: It's their way or it's no way.
Speaker 22: So we are working to get that back and I
Speaker 22: think we'll be there pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, Peter Adderton, founder and CEO of mobile X. The
Speaker 1: website mymobilex dot com if you want to check it out,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me today.
Speaker 15: Absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we've got the feedback segment. I
Speaker 1: still need to tell you my pizza story. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you about Google and uh, anything else I can squeeze
Speaker 1: in before the end of the show. Rich on Tech
Speaker 1: dot tv is the website. If you want more information
Speaker 1: on my mooble x. You are listening to rich on Tech.
Speaker 9: Collation Relation.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here closing
Speaker 1: out the show with our AI generated song So weird
Speaker 1: but kind of cool. All right, I got a lot
Speaker 1: to get to, so let me just start right away here.
Speaker 1: First off, I've been using a new app called Boy
Speaker 1: and it is incredible. I highly suggest you go to
Speaker 1: Voice Nototes dot com and check it out. This is
Speaker 1: an AI powered note taking app. So what do you do?
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a thought? You record your voice into
Speaker 1: the app and it will then transcribe it and it
Speaker 1: will come up with a witty title for it. And
Speaker 1: then the magic of this entire system is that it
Speaker 1: puts everything that you say on a timeline. But wait,
Speaker 1: there's more. You can also search anything that you've ever
Speaker 1: said and it's all transcribed things to AI and you
Speaker 1: can ask. It becomes your own personal chat GBT. So
Speaker 1: if you one time said that you liked a restaurant
Speaker 1: in this little city when you were in some travel place.
Speaker 1: You can ask your AI what was that restaurant I
Speaker 1: liked in Rome, and it would come up with the answer.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely incredible. I played with this for about
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before I paid for the lifetime subscription, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still available, but it's it's
Speaker 1: you can use it for free, and there are some limitations,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you check this out. It is called
Speaker 1: voicenoes dot com right now, it's a web app. They
Speaker 1: will have apps for iOS and Android coming soon. It
Speaker 1: comes from the same people who make that buy Me
Speaker 1: a Coffee and also biolink, so it comes from a
Speaker 1: good team that that does some cool stuff. So voice
Speaker 1: notoes dot com. Let's see Tesla yesterday slashed the price
Speaker 1: of their full self driving software. It used to be
Speaker 1: one hundred two hundred dollars a month. Now it's one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. So in the name of you,
Speaker 1: I subscribed and tried it out. I drove to the
Speaker 1: show today, or had the car drive to the show,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you it's scary as can I
Speaker 1: say hell on this show, it's scary as hell. That's
Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my gosh. I'm not kidding, I'm
Speaker 1: I I this should free the pain and my heart
Speaker 1: rate during this drive to the show was intense. My
Speaker 1: car missed the turn onto the freeway ramp. It tried
Speaker 1: to turn from a non dedicated turn lane. It had
Speaker 1: erratic behavior. A driver actually honked at me as he
Speaker 1: went past me because they were like, what the heck
Speaker 1: is this car doing? It stopped. It fully stopped at
Speaker 1: a crosswalk when it wasn't supposed to. It's like one
Speaker 1: of those crosswalks that like, you know, people might cross that,
Speaker 1: but there's no one in it. It tried to go
Speaker 1: through a blinking left turn signal. It went right through
Speaker 1: the meter light on the freeway. Here in California, you've
Speaker 1: got these little red light green lights that let you
Speaker 1: onto the freeway at a certain point, and it just
Speaker 1: blasted right through that didn't even stop for that one.
Speaker 1: I had to disengage the autopilot when another car cut
Speaker 1: me off. It just it was all over the place.
Speaker 1: I tried it twice this morning, and it's amazing. I
Speaker 1: think if if you're maybe on very simple streets, but
Speaker 1: on complicated city streets like Los Angeles, it's it's more
Speaker 1: work to monitor this system and to react or to
Speaker 1: be ready to react than it is to just drive yourself.
Speaker 1: So until we are in that complete full self driving autonomy,
Speaker 1: this is not ready for prime time. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's even worth the one hundred dollars a month based
Speaker 1: on the headaches and the stress that it will cause you,
Speaker 1: so to be continued on that. I will continue to
Speaker 1: test it for the month. My kids were like, can
Speaker 1: I take a ride? I said no, I value your life,
Speaker 1: like not right now, I'm It's just it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Google's Magic Tools Magic editing tools are coming to all
Speaker 1: devices for free, so it used to be something you
Speaker 1: can only get on Pixels or if you paid. Now
Speaker 1: their AI powered Magic Editor tool will be available for
Speaker 1: free on Android, iOS, Android and iOS device is starting
Speaker 1: May fifteenth, so if you download Google Photos on those
Speaker 1: devices you can use the Magic Editor, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: You're only gonna get ten free edits a month. Pixel
Speaker 1: users will still get unlimited access, and of course, if
Speaker 1: you have a non Pixel device, you can subscribe to
Speaker 1: a Google one plan to get to get that as well.
Speaker 1: It has to be a two terabyte storage plan, which
Speaker 1: is what I'm on. But pretty cool Google's under a
Speaker 1: lot of stress right now between all of these other
Speaker 1: AI photo editing apps, so they got to do something
Speaker 1: because they want theirs to be prominent. And also in
Speaker 1: other Google news, you know that Apple has air tags.
Speaker 1: Now Google is launching what they call the Find my
Speaker 1: Device Network. This uses over a billion Android devices to
Speaker 1: locate lost phones, tablets, headphones, and third party tags. So
Speaker 1: just like an air tag, there will now be tags
Speaker 1: that you can use your Android phone to find. And
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. If you have an Android phone,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to find these things you'll have on
Speaker 1: your keys, on your bigger suitcases, whatever luggage. Pixelate and
Speaker 1: pixel eight pro even have this cool feature where they
Speaker 1: can be found when they're powered off or have a
Speaker 1: dead battery. What kind of witchcraft is that you can
Speaker 1: find something with a dead battery. There's got to be
Speaker 1: some sort of battery in there, right, like a small
Speaker 1: backup battery. Come on, Chippolo is sending me one of
Speaker 1: their tags to test out. There's gonna be a bunch
Speaker 1: of these on the market. Sony JBL headphones are gonna
Speaker 1: update them to support this Find my Device. There is
Speaker 1: an app that you can download right now it is
Speaker 1: called find my Devices. I think it's see it's called
Speaker 1: find my Device app and make sure it's signed by
Speaker 1: Google LLC. Nothing else. There are some fake apps out there,
Speaker 1: so it says Google LLC. If that's not the developer,
Speaker 1: do not get it. All right, let's get to some
Speaker 1: feedback here, Rich, you blew it. On your last radio show.
Speaker 1: You talked about swiping your phone's shutter button to take
Speaker 1: multiple photos at month at once. Then you stated you
Speaker 1: swipe right to take multiple photos, but you have failed
Speaker 1: to mention whether you turn the phone clockwise or counterclockwise. Well,
Speaker 1: to me, I always turn my phone with the charging
Speaker 1: port when it's horizontal to the right. That's just the
Speaker 1: way I think is the standard way. So yes, on Samsung,
Speaker 1: you would take your photo shutter button and you would
Speaker 1: pull it to the right. On iPhone you would pull
Speaker 1: it down. That's with your power plug facing to the right.
Speaker 1: Travis says, hey, Rich, the workaround for watching Apple TV
Speaker 1: on an Android phone or tablet is to use a
Speaker 1: browser like Chrome and log into your Apple TV account
Speaker 1: and cast away. There you go, Travis, thank you, Oh
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